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<p>Almost no one saw a playoff berth coming for this season’s Giants, so let’s see if we can figure out how it happened</p> <p class="p-large-text" id="Mu8aWy">There were <a href="https://www.bigblueview.com/2022/5/14/23070849/will-the-2022-giants-be-that-bad">no expectations</a> for the 2022 <a href="https://www.bigblueview.com/">New York Giants</a>.</p>
<p class="p-large-text" id="HUcCwZ">This was a team coming off five consecutive double-digit loss seasons. At 22-59, the Giants were tied with the <a href="https://www.ganggreennation.com/">New York Jets</a> for the worst record in football over that five-year span. They had gone through three head coaches in six years. They appeared to have a broken front office with the Mara family accused of exercising too much control over football decisions. </p>
<p class="p-large-text" id="hKd1cb">They were starting over — finally — with first-time decision-makers at head coach and GM from outside their organizational comfort zone. Those decision-makers were handed a highly-drafted quarterback no one was sure they could go forward with. They had a roster filled with holes and a disastrous salary cap situation that left them with little money to try and fix it.</p>
<p class="p-large-text" id="yagrfg">It looked like the beginning of a long-term building process.</p>
<p id="0Os6w5">The new GM, Joe Schoen, expressed his distaste for rebuilding, but made no grand promises for 2022.</p>
<p id="GJNat6">“I want to make it the best I can,” Schoen said at the Scouting Combine. “I don’t want to go out and get my head beat in, ever. I want to have a competitive team and do what’s best for the franchise in the future.</p>
<p id="a4j443">“I’d like to build the roster the best we can so we can be competitive this year.”</p>
<p id="KaiG3S">The new head coach, Brian Daboll, said in the spring that the Giants would just “try to win each day.”</p>
<p id="v4Zkaj">Let’s just say Schoen and Daboll could not be accused of over-promising.</p>
<h2 id="FNkijw">So, how did this happen? How did Schoen and Daboll get the Giants to 9-7-1 and into the playoffs in Year 1?</h2>
<p class="p--has-dropcap p-large-text" id="hhXKbl">“It takes everybody in the building to do their job well. It’s probably the greatest team sport to be part of, coaching or playing or being part of the football team,” Daboll said. “I have a lot of good people that are with me, whether that’s coaches, front office, scouting, most importantly the players, the administration staff – everybody that is responsible to do their job well. So, I’m just one part of the puzzle. I try to do my job the best I can but count on a lot of other people doing their job well. And that’s again, like I said, a testament to them and starting with the players.”</p>
<p id="FxNdyn">Schoen revamped the front office. He brought in smart people like Brandon Brown (assistant GM), Chris Rossetti (director or pro scouting) and former <a href="https://www.thephinsider.com/">Miami Dolphins</a> GM Dennis Hickey (assistant director of player personnel).</p>
<p id="OXU7YP">From the beginning, Schoen has made difficult, cap-clearing decisions like moving on from James Bradberry while using every means available to add low-cost, useful veterans who could at least help in the short term. </p>
<p id="02NT7E">Injuries have made the overall draft class difficult to assess, but the Giants hope Kayvon Thibodeaux, Evan Neal and injured wide receiver Wan’Dale Robinson are foundational pieces.</p>
<p id="nX3oZ3">Daboll promised only that he would be “authentic” and that under his direction the Giants were “just going to try to do things the right way.”</p>
<p id="0CUBZ1">Daboll said what all new coaches say — that the game is about the players and that the job of the coaching staff was to let players do what they do best.</p>
<p id="0sSUng">“The schemes are going to be what the players are best at,” is how Daboll put it at his introductory press conference.</p>
<p id="FNn9sl">We have seen far too many times over the years, though, that for many coaches and coaching staffs that is simple lip service. They either don’t know how to truly identify and use those things that players really do well, or simply aren’t willing to bend their schemes to fit those talents.</p>
<p id="3rhk7K">Daboll and the quality, experienced NFL coaching staff he built have brought those words to life. </p>
<p id="LED6DO">Reflecting on the journey to this point, Daboll on Monday told a great story about building both his relationship with quarterback Daniel Jones — and the Giants’ offense — that illustrates the point.</p>
<p id="JIQtXT">“I spent a lot of time with Daniel to try to get to know him and him to know me,” Daboll said. “He’d come over to the house, and I just remember at the end of training camp, we’re sitting there. And I’m outside by the pool smoking a cigar, and the whole table has about three years’ worth of different playbooks as we’re going through training camp. I’m saying, ‘Tell me if you like any of these.’ You’re making sure that ‘You know what, this guy cares about what I think. He cares how I see the game.’ I think that’s important for a quarterback.”</p>
<p id="aAMdwk">It has been important across the roster. The Giants have a completely different set of wide receivers than anyone thought they would have when the season started, and yet with this unheralded group are throwing the ball more efficiently than they have all season. They have used a plethora of tight ends and offensive linemen, all the while getting enough production and shifting their blocking schemes as the season has progressed.</p>
<p id="XRzYMy">On defense, Wink Martindale has been as advertised. He brings a “pressure breaks pipes” philosophy and blitzes more than any defensive coordinator in the NFL. Where Martindale and his defensive assistants deserve credit is for getting effective enough play out of a constantly evolving group of players in the secondary, at linebacker and even on the edge. Oh, and ‘Kudos’ to defensive line coach Andre Patterson for getting the best play of his career from Dexter Lawrence.</p>
<aside id="nbx8cI"><div data-anthem-component="readmore" data-anthem-component-data='{"stories":[{"title":"The games that shaped a Giants playoff team","url":"https://www.bigblueview.com/2023/1/3/23534876/the-games-that-shaped-a-giants-playoff-team"}]}'></div></aside><h2 id="uavfl7">Nothing has been as important as the work the Giants have done with Jones.</h2>
<p class="p--has-dropcap p-large-text" id="UtjLqL">Jones’ first three seasons with the Giants were a disaster. There were glimpses of raw ability, but Jones never came close to justifying the No. 6 overall pick Dave Gettleman used on him in 2019. </p>
<p id="Lcm9Fy">Saquon Barkley was almost always injured. The offensive line was perennially putrid. There never seemed to be anyone reliable for Jones to throw the ball to. There were two head coaches and three play-callers, and for the last couple of seasons the plan seemed to involve trying to prevent Jones from screwing up rather than allowing him a real opportunity to make plays.</p>
<p id="JOZUpr">Remember what co-owner John Mara said after hiring Schoen to be the GM?</p>
<p id="psIj8o">“We do feel that Daniel can play. We’ve done everything possible to screw this kid up since he’s been here. We keep changing coaches. Keep changing offensive coordinators. Keep changing offensive line coaches,” Mara said. “I take a lot of responsibility for that. Let’s bring in the right group of coaches now and give him some continuity and try to rebuild the offensive line and then be able to make it an intelligent evaluation of whether he can be the franchise quarterback or not.”</p>
<p id="bv45c4">Part of that was Daboll and offensive coordinator Mike Kafka building an offense that worked for Jones. Not for Josh Allen. Not for Patrick Mahomes. Not to fit their ideas of what offense should look like. Simply to give Jones and the offense the best chance to succeed.</p>
<p id="I908N7">They also hit Jones with a heavy dose of tough love. They did not coddle him or apologize for him. They challenged him. The most public evidence of that came in Week 1, Daboll screaming at Jones on the sideline after an awful end zone interception against the <a href="https://www.musiccitymiracles.com/">Tennessee Titans</a>.</p>
<p id="5zUvNV">It went far beyond that, however. Daboll tested Jones’ mettle by intentionally making things hard on him day after day.</p>
<p id="2IptOz">in the subscription-only site <a href="https://www.golongtd.com/">GoLongTD.com</a>, Tyler Dunne writes about how Daboll structured training camp to make Jones’ life miserable:</p>
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<p id="p663fq">Start at the position that will decide the fate of any team until the end of time. Into this 2022 season, the new regime stuck with Daniel Jones on a one-year trial basis. They declined his fifth-year option for 2023, but believed Jones was talented enough to be the starter in Year 1 of a rebuild. Veteran Tyrod Taylor was added for insurance. The Giants were obviously choosing to punt this franchise-defining decision down the road, a fiscally smart maneuver considering fired GM Dave Gettleman left the roster in financial ruins. There was no need to anoint anyone. Not yet. But Daboll also knew this: He needed to test Jones’ mental toughness.</p>
<p id="8hht0G">So, when training camp began, he devised a plan. As one source close to the coach explained, Daboll purposely structured practice for Jones to <em>fail </em>and Taylor to <em>succeed</em>.</p>
<p id="Sllltz">“He wanted Daniel Jones to deal with the adversity,” this source explained. “He wanted to see how he dealt with it on a daily basis. And he passed it with flying colors. So, I know he loves Daniel Jones.</p>
<p id="GZdfJK">“He <em>loves </em>Daniel Jones. He loves him.”</p>
<p id="Y0iSSX">Practices are always scripted. Daboll would tell defensive coordinator Don “Wink” Martindale which plays he’d be running when Jones was in the game, this source explains, and had Martindale call defensive plays that’d intentionally work. And when Taylor entered? Exact opposite. Plays were scripted on both sides to set him up for success.</p>
<p id="pbBMAZ">Jones did not flinch. Daboll was thrilled.</p>
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<p id="PqzQuB">Until reading Dunne’s work, I did not know that part of the Daboll-Jones training camp story. Having attended many of the training camp practices, though, I can attest that most days were set up to give the defense an advantage. The Giants spent many practices working long-yardage or third-down situations and Daboll mostly allowed Martindale to be Martindale, blitzing to his heart’s content.</p>
<p id="yJCHLM">The result? There were a lot of days during training camp where Jones and the offense looked overmatched. Because they were. On purpose.</p>
<p id="NWLH9m">Day after miserable offensive day, we would ask Daboll if he was concerned about the lack of offensive success. He continually emphasized process over results, saying that the latter really only mattered once the games started.</p>
<p id="mgZtil">I asked Daboll this week to reflect back on how testing Jones, and the rest of the roster, in that way laid the groundwork for the success the Giants have enjoyed. He gave a lengthy answer that, I think, reveals a lot about how he thinks.</p>
<p id="eQfs0i">“Part of that training camp and OTAs is to test guys, not just physically but also mentally. So, I’d say that again – does winning help early on? Sure, it helps. I don’t think anyone would say it doesn’t. But I do think the type of players, the type of people, that we have, they’ve been fantastic to work with. They’ve got a great mindset. They exhibit a lot of characteristics that we covet in terms of being smart, tough, dependable. And they just try to get better each day,” Daboll said. “And I appreciate working with them and the things that they’ve tried to do. And again, it’s an up-and-down league. So, trying to give them a level of consistency, I think, is really important from a coaching staff because, again, this league can get you quick. </p>
<p id="qMDdUd">“So, I try to be the same coach, the same person, after a win as you are with a loss. And focus on the process, if you will, because I can live with results if we’re doing things the right way: we’re on time, we’re taking care of our bodies, we’re detailed in meetings, we practice our tails off. If we go out there and don’t get the results we want Sunday, I can live with that. I don’t like it. I don’t like it one bit, but I certainly can live with it based on what they’re doing and what we’re asking them to do and how they’re doing it.” </p>
<p id="PrsZHE">Jones has responded with his best season. There were ‘Daniel Jones’ and ‘MVP’ chants as he exited Sunday’s 38-10 victory over the <a href="https://www.stampedeblue.com/">Indianapolis Colts</a>. There is now a belief in many quarters that Jones has earned the right to remain as Giants quarterback for at least the next couple of seasons. And that he will be well-paid to do that.</p>
<p id="Mm5z8B">“He’s [Daboll] meant a lot. I’ve learned a lot from him. A lot of football,” Jones said. “I’ve grown a lot as a player. I appreciate his support and giving me the chance to go out there and play. He’s helped me a lot, he’s helped all of us a lot. Definitely grateful for him.”</p>
<p id="RcaMmm">Daboll has also consistently shown confidence in his players. Nothing resonated more than his Week 1 decision to go for two points while trailing 20-19 vs. the Tennessee Titans, which resulted in a 21-20 season-opening victory.</p>
<p id="eRiwKm">“I don’t think he gets enough respect for how competitive he is. He always talks about competitive stamina, competitive mindset, and it kind of starts with your coach. It kind of started Week 1 when we scored a touchdown and you go for two. I think it starts there. It shows the trust that he has in us, the belief that he has in us. And when a guy like that is your head coach, showing him that as a player you don’t want to go out there and let him down, you want to enhance your level of play. And he’s been doing that all year from start to finish — from once he came in, just the energy he was able to bring to the facility, not only him, but Joe [Schoen] too, all the coaches, they’ve been doing a phenomenal job and I think the players are feeding off that.”</p>
<p id="wLlzNK">It has all added up to a far more successful season than almost anyone thought possible. Daboll hopes the Giants aren’t done surprising people.</p>
<p id="Ni8fyn">“You work with these guys every day. A lot of them are my kids’ ages. Some of them have had some challenging times here. So, I’m extremely happy for the players, first and foremost, but the staff, trainers, ownership, coaches,” he said of reaching the playoffs. “Our goal – it’ll never be just to make the playoffs. That’ll never be just our goal.”</p>
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<p>Here is the updated playoff bracket, schedule</p> <p id="fmMvce">The New York Giants will travel to Minneapolis to face the Minnesota Vikings in the Wild-Card round of of the 2023 NFC playoffs. The game will be played Sunday, Jan. 16 at 4:30 p.m. on FOX.</p>
<p id="9fatRH">The Giants were locked into the No. 6 seed even before <a href="https://www.bigblueview.com/2023/1/8/23544303/giants-eagles-final-score-giants-make-eagles-earn-22-16-victory">Sunday’s 22-16 loss</a> to the Philadelphia Eagles.</p>
<p id="HrSD9C">Minnesota defeated the Chicago Bears, 29-13, and the San Francisco 49ers defeated the Arizona Cardinals, 38-13, on Sunday.</p>
<p id="L5Beyu">The Giants are 3-point underdogs, per <a href="https://sportsbook.draftkings.com/leagues/football/nfl?wpcid=163147&wpcn=HowtoWatchContent&wpsrc=Vox&wpcrid=NFL&pcid=163147&psn=Vox&pcrn=HowtoWatchContent&pscn=NFL&sa=D&source=editors&ust=1673273786594702&usg=AOvVaw0XeR9q8Bqn6jkzYZ5D0cdm">DraftKings Sportsbook</a>.</p>
<p id="yJChi2">“We’ll prepare as hard as we can to go play a really good football team in a hostile environment,” Giants coach Brian Daboll said of facing Minnesota.</p>
<p id="xFjNI3">“I just know I have to do a great job of doing my job. Coaches have to do a great job of preparing. Each week is a different week. This week will be a different week than it was the last time we played them. Just like Washington was different. Just like the Philly game and Dallas. They’re all different. We’ll just control the things we can control which is our preparation and practice.”</p>
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<p lang="en" dir="ltr">"It's the playoffs. Whatever the seeds are, the seeds are."<br><br>Brian Daboll talks about getting a rematch with the Vikings in the first round of the playoffs: <a href="https://t.co/MBA3IG4tuS">pic.twitter.com/MBA3IG4tuS</a></p>— Giants Videos (@SNYGiants) <a href="https://twitter.com/SNYGiants/status/1612249745526865924?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 9, 2023</a>
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<h2 id="KWfQrQ">NFC playoff seedings </h2>
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<li id="hwXIj3">Philadelphia Eagles (14-3)</li>
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<a href="https://www.ninersnation.com/">San Francisco 49ers</a> (13-4)</li>
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<a href="https://www.dailynorseman.com/">Minnesota Vikings</a> (13-4)</li>
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<a href="https://www.bucsnation.com/">Tampa Bay Buccaneers</a> (8-9)</li>
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<a href="https://www.bloggingtheboys.com/">Dallas Cowboys</a> (12-5)</li>
<li id="GX8WZp">New York Giants (9-7-1)</li>
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<a href="https://www.fieldgulls.com/">Seattle Seahawks</a> (9-8)</li>
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<h2 id="USIAGX">AFC playoff seedings</h2>
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<li id="1WLsXl">Kansas City (14-3)</li>
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<a href="https://www.buffalorumblings.com/">Buffalo Bills</a> (13-3)</li>
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<a href="https://www.cincyjungle.com/">Cincinnati Bengals</a> (12-4)</li>
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<a href="https://www.bigcatcountry.com/">Jacksonville Jaguars</a> (9-8)</li>
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<a href="https://www.boltsfromtheblue.com/">Los Angeles Chargers</a> (10-7)</li>
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<a href="https://www.baltimorebeatdown.com/">Baltimore Ravens</a> (10-7)</li>
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<a href="https://www.thephinsider.com/">Miami Dolphins</a> (9-8)</li>
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<h2 id="pVxxhr">NFL Wild-Card round playoff schedule</h2>
<h3 id="s7Yuyc">Saturday, Jan. 14</h3>
<p id="Oacm3v"><strong>Seattle Seahawks (7) at San Francisco 49ers (2)</strong><br>4:30 p.m. ET | FOX</p>
<p id="3nrrpj"><strong>Los Angeles Chargers (5) at Jacksonville Jaguars (4)</strong><br>8:15 p.m. ET | NBC</p>
<h3 id="RuhYWw">Sunday, Jan. 15</h3>
<p id="sCV7ZD"><strong>Miami Dolphins (7) at Buffalo Bills (2)</strong><br>1 p.m. ET | CBS</p>
<p id="QJ0Y5N"><strong>New York Giants (6) at Minnesota Vikings (3)</strong><br>4:30 p.m. ET | FOX</p>
<p id="Xpo0UN"><strong>Baltimore Ravens (6) at Cincinnati Bengals (3)</strong><br>8:15 p.m. ET | NBC</p>
<h3 id="IyNQse">Monday, Jan. 16</h3>
<p id="BubUKg"><strong>Dallas Cowboys (5) at Tampa Bay Buccaneers (4)</strong><br>8:15 p.m. ET | ESPN, ESPN+</p>
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https://www.bigblueview.com/2023/1/8/23544692/nfl-playoff-schedule-bracket-scenarios-2023-giantsEd Valentine2023-01-08T21:28:01-05:002023-01-08T21:28:01-05:00Giants-Eagles final score: Giants make Eagles earn 22-16 victory
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<p>Giants head to playoffs — matchup with Vikings awaits</p> <p id="oboPHe">The junior varsity <a href="https://www.bigblueview.com/">New York Giants</a>, playing a lineup filled with almost exclusively backups, lost to the <a href="https://www.bleedinggreennation.com/">Philadelphia Eagles</a> on Sunday, 22-16. The 9-7-1 Giants, the No. 6 seed in the NFC playoffs, now head to the playoffs, where they will face the third-seeded Minnesota Vikings.</p>
<p id="VhytCN">The Giants lost to the Vikings in Minnesota during Week 16, 27-24. That game was decided on a last-second 61-yard field goal by Minnesota’s Greg Joesph.</p>
<p id="xc7OfK">Sunday’s victory allowed the 14-3 Eagles to clinch the No. 1 seed in the <a href="https://www.sbnation.com/nfl-playoffs">NFC playoffs</a>.</p>
<p id="4Ib1YT">Despite not playing most of their starters, the Giants made the 14-point favorite Eagles earn Sunday’s victory.</p>
<p id="5Ngg6F">In the first start of his career, Davis Webb was 23 of 40 for 168 yards with a touchdown pass and a 14-yard rushing touchdown. Both were the only touchdowns of his career.</p>
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<p lang="en" dir="ltr">DAVIS WEBB TD <br><br> : CBS <a href="https://t.co/HNg8nSFvoa">pic.twitter.com/HNg8nSFvoa</a></p>— New York Giants (@Giants) <a href="https://twitter.com/Giants/status/1612236238232387584?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 8, 2023</a>
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<p id="S2rmkC">Tight end Lawrence Cager had eight receptions for 69 yards. Kenny Golladay had a great one-handed catch for a 25-yard touchdown, the only touchdown he has scored in his two seasons with the Giants. Gary Brightwell had 11 carries for 60 yards (5.5 yards per carry) and a 40-yard kickoff return.</p>
<p id="ZrTY5o">Defensively, Jarrad Davis and Rodarius Williams each had 10 tackles, with Davis adding a half-sack. Micah McFadden had seven tackles, two for loss, a sack and a quarterback hit, and Nick McCloud had 1.5 sacks, two quarterback hits and five tackles.</p>
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<p lang="en" dir="ltr">Davis Webb thanks his offensive linemen, tight ends and wide receivers:<br><br>"That second half was really fun and that's something I'll never forget." <a href="https://t.co/PzLDl4Fnbl">pic.twitter.com/PzLDl4Fnbl</a></p>— Giants Videos (@SNYGiants) <a href="https://twitter.com/SNYGiants/status/1612251474276360193?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 9, 2023</a>
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<h2 id="bGUMDM">Giants inactives</h2>
<p id="YKHFSP">S Julian Love<br>CB Adoree’ Jackson<br>RB Saquon Barkley<br>OLB Azeez Ojulari<br>OT Andrew Thomas<br>DL Dexter Lawrence<br>DL Leonard Williams</p>
<p id="50xHzA"><strong>Others who did not play:</strong> QB Daniel Jones, WRs Isaiah Hodgins and Darius Slayton, G Mark Glowinski, C Jon Feliciano, TE Daniel Bellinger, LB Jaylon Smith, edge defenders Kayvon Thibodeaux and Jihad Ward, S Xavier McKinney, cornerbacks Fabian Moreau and Darnay Holmes.</p>
<h2 id="e6i9Yz">Injury news</h2>
<ul><li id="HMraQw">Giants safety Jason Pinnock suffered a shoulder injury. </li></ul>
<h2 id="DMCsfh">What’s next?</h2>
<p id="G3BoMA">The Giants will play the Minnesota Vikings in Minneapolis on Wild Card Weekend. As of now, the time and date have not been set.</p>
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<p>Sunday was more enjoyable that we thought it might be, but it was just a prelude to the main course to come</p> <p id="N84Na3">The only thing that really mattered for the <a href="https://www.bigblueview.com/">New York Giants</a> on Sunday was that they came out of their 22-16 loss to the <a href="https://www.bleedinggreennation.com/">Philadelphia Eagles</a> almost completely unscathed, with backup safety Jason Pinnock (shoulder/unknown severity) the only injury we know of.</p>
<p id="ls4fFN">There was nothing of substance to gain from risking players like Daniel Jones, Saquon Barkley, Dexter Lawrence and others against the Eagles. </p>
<p id="JKeAhQ">When the Eagles, playing for the No. 1 seed in the NFC, jumped to an early 10-0 lead it looked like we might be headed toward having to stomach another beating like the 48-22 thrashing the Eagles handed the Giants in Week 14.</p>
<p id="i3wPgi">Darned if this didn’t turn out to be kinda fun, though.</p>
<p id="rI1ZAr">It was rewarding to see Davis Webb, a career practice squad player, get his first NFL start and first real action of his career, and actually deliver a solid performance. </p>
<p id="TgdmfY">It was certainly fun to watch Webb do this:</p>
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<p lang="en" dir="ltr">DAVIS WEBB TRUCK STICK!!!<br><br>(via <a href="https://twitter.com/Giants?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Giants</a>) <a href="https://t.co/92p9EuWFY9">pic.twitter.com/92p9EuWFY9</a></p>— Giants Videos (@SNYGiants) <a href="https://twitter.com/SNYGiants/status/1612236414850039809?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 8, 2023</a>
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<p id="8wHtjy">Webb even managed to get Kenny Golladay to make a play — something Daniel Jones, Mike Glennon, Jake Fromm and Tyrod Taylor have not been able to do in two years.</p>
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<p id="4TOvx2">It was fun to watch Lawrence Cager have the best game of his NFL career — eight catches were one more than he had in nine career games before Sunday.</p>
<p id="y9MMiL">It was certainly fun to watch the Giants’ defensive backups — led by guys like Rodarius Williams, Jarrad Davis, Nick McCloud, Micah McFadden, Cor’Dale Flott and Tomon Fox — hold the Eagles to one of five in the red zone and frustrate Eagles coach Nick Sirianni enough that Jalen Hurts and his less than 100 percent right shoulder and other Philadelphia starters had to play the entire game.</p>
<p id="2R3Uyd">Sunday really could not have worked out better for the Giants. They played a competitive game against the Eagles while resting their key guys. The Vikings and <a href="https://www.ninersnation.com/">San Francisco 49ers</a> both won, meaning the Giants will get a rematch with a Minnesota team it certainly feels like they are competitive with.</p>
<p id="TwF1Ii">Just to add to the fun, the Washington Commanders pounded the <a href="https://www.bloggingtheboys.com/">Dallas Cowboys</a>, 26-6, while Cowboys quarterback Dak Prescott had a miserable 14 of 37 day.</p>
<p id="FBsRj6">Still, Sunday’s game against the Eagles was really a sideshow. It was something to be gotten through, something to cross off the calendar before we get to the real fun.</p>
<p id="wTrBvn">The Giants’ first playoff appearance since 2016. And maybe, just maybe, their first playoff victory since the 2011 season — the last time they won the <a href="https://www.sbnation.com/super-bowl">Super Bowl</a>.</p>
<h2 id="T2u9V7">‘We’ll see you guys again’</h2>
<p id="W3gMcA"><a href="https://twitter.com/JordanRaanan/status/1612261327191277568?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1612261327191277568%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=about%3Asrcdoc">Per Jordan Ranaan of ESPN</a>, that is what Giants’ running back Saquon Barkley said he told some Vikings players after Minnesota’s 27-24 last-second victory over the Giants in Week 16.</p>
<p id="YafKNV">The Vikings are 13-4. They will be at home. You can’t look back at that Week 16 game, which required a 61-yard game-winning field goal on the final play for Minnesota to win, and not realize that the Giants will go to Minnesota next weekend thinking they can win.</p>
<blockquote><p id="98CKtA">“They’re a good team, a playoff team. We gotta go and score points and not hurt ourselves and shoot ourselves in the foot,” Giants offensive lineman Nick Gates <a href="https://twitter.com/PLeonardNYDN/status/1612264169453002754">said on Sunday evening</a>. “This team’s a good team when we don’t do that. When we play consistent, no penalties and things like that, we’re a hard team to beat.”</p></blockquote>
<p id="7p75Ub">The Vikings, despite a fancy 13-4 record, have a -3 point differential. They have given up three more points than they have scored. The Giants’ point differential is -6. Maybe the Giants will beat the Vikings. Maybe they won’t. There is no doubt, though, that this matchup gives the Giants a legitimate chance to win a playoff game for the first time in more than a decade.</p>
<p id="baispA">We all know the Giants have a history of unexpected playoff runs. No one should count on that.</p>
<p id="nkDaKB">Enjoy the week, though. And enjoy the ride no matter what happens. After all, it sure beats talking about coach/GM firings and draft order, which is how we have spent this time of year for most of the past decade.</p>
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<p>What can we take away from the regular season finale before moving on to the playoffs</p> <p id="EPYKO3">The <a href="https://www.bigblueview.com/">New York Giants</a> came up just short in their Week 18 game against the <a href="https://www.bleedinggreennation.com/">Philadelphia Eagles</a>. But while the Giants may have ended the regular season with a 22-16 loss to a division rival, this game doesn’t really feel like a loss.</p>
<p id="5ccBTk">Maybe it’s because the Giants were expected to be blown out. Or maybe it’s because of how hard the Giants’ second- and third-stringers played against the Eagles’ starters in a game with nothing on the line. But whatever the reason, this was one of the more fun games in recent memory. </p>
<p id="XECGEa">So what can we take away from the Giants’ “loss” to Philly?</p>
<h2 id="CKuiBr">First down: The Giants made them work for it</h2>
<p id="FE94ly">The outcome of this game was pretty much a foregone conclusion as soon as it was revealed that the Giants would be resting their starters while Philly would be playing to win. </p>
<p id="KEIvm8">But what nobody really saw coming was how hard the Giants made the Eagles work for it. </p>
<p id="0uzVyF">The Giants’ defense played hard and aggressive all game long, and repeatedly held the Eagles to field goals despite them repeatedly driving to the end zone was unable to get much going, but the Giants’ defense gave the Eagles fits. </p>
<p id="RkhkLt">Philly seemed to be trying to walk the line between winning the game and not exposing their starters any more than necessary. They didn’t seem to want to expose their starters to more risk of injury than was necessary, and they kept their schemes as vanilla as they could. </p>
<p id="iQqdGk">That said, the Giants kept this closer than it had any right to be. In particular, Tomon Fox, Micah McFadden, Nick McCloud, Dane Belton, and Jarrad Davis were seemingly everywhere for the Giants’ defense. The Giants’ defense played well enough that they held the Eagles to just one touchdown (of course it was Boston Scott...) and five field goals.</p>
<p id="ZevEMt">The offense struggled to consistently replicate the defense’s success, but they were able to move the ball in fits and starts on a very good Eagles’ defense and even came away with a pair of touchdowns.</p>
<p id="5vP9SO">All in all, the Eagles won, but it was a disappointing, unsatisfying win against a team they should have run out of the stadium.</p>
<h2 id="oRWgV2">Second down: Evan Neal’s rough game</h2>
<p id="f857aC">The Giants rested most of their regular players, but opted to get right tackle Evan Neal reps to compensate for the time he missed due to injury. The Giants likely hoped that Neal would be able to build on his good play last week against a very good Eagles’ pass rush. </p>
<p id="WNG9Tl">Instead, Neal had a very rough outing. </p>
<p id="ESZsq9">Haason Reddick and Brandon Graham had multiple pressures off the right side as Davis Webb spent much of his first start running from pass rushers and improvising in the backfield. Neal also had two false start penalties before being replaced by Matt Peart in the second half. </p>
<p id="VCduJ1">Neal closes out a very up-and-down 2022 regular season on a low note. That, obviously, isn’t what you want to see from the seventh-overall pick, but there’s always a learning curve for rookie tackles. We saw Andrew Thomas have a similar rookie season before improving significantly in his second and third years. </p>
<h2 id="edKsM5">Third down: Davis Webb SZN</h2>
<p id="Tv91Ko">The Giants’ third-string quarterback was reportedly courted by the <a href="https://www.thephinsider.com/">Miami Dolphins</a> after Tua Tagovailoa’s concussion, but Webb opted to stay on the Giants’ practice squad. The Giants gave him his first start this week since Jerry Reese made him the Giants’ 2017 third-round pick, and he gave the Giants his all.</p>
<p id="KnohuJ">Webb never seemed overwhelmed by his opportunity and was in control of the offense — though he was also frequently forced to improvise when pass protection broke down. </p>
<p id="lLG4yg">The play of Webb (as well as the Giants’ defense) was one of the reasons why this might be the most entertaining loss in recent memory. This might be the only game Webb ever starts, but he certainly gave us some memorable plays. </p>
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<p id="AL0i1N">Then Webb did his best Brandon Jacobs impression for his first touchdown.</p>
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<p id="PpcHli">And finally, his second touchdown turns out to also be the first for Kenny Golladay as a Giant, and his first since 2020. </p>
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<p id="j187pw">Webb was never going to get a chance behind <a href="https://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2019/4/16/18295462/eli-manning-philip-rivers-trade-2004-nfl-draft-giants-chargers-aj-smith-ernie-accorsi">Eli Manning</a>. Nor was he going to get a chance with the Jets while they still thought Sam Darnold was a franchise quarterback, nor in Buffalo behind Josh Allen. </p>
<p id="jwf4jN">But it was good to see Webb make the most of his chance today with the Giants, and enough to make you wonder what he might be able to do with a starting offense.</p>
<h2 id="Bk3rcJ">Fourth down: Love For Hamlin</h2>
<p id="lIQ7r4">There just wasn’t any way I could end this but to put a bow on a harrowing — and inspirational — week for the NFL community. </p>
<p id="LGngzE">Hamlin collapsed on the field a little bit less six days ago in one of the most frightening moments in NFL history. The sports world all but stopped over the next twenty-four hours and we all hung on every update regarding his condition. Everyone from Hamlin’s teammates, to athletes in other sports, to President Biden took the time to offer they’re prayer and support for the 24-year old safety and his family.</p>
<p id="pFdHp1">While words of support poured in from around the internet, so did the donations to his Chasing M’s Foundation (nearly $8.5 million as of this writing). </p>
<p id="WZzjjS">Hamlin won the fight for his life and has made fantastic progress this week, and now the NFL is offering tribute. </p>
<p id="beKu1O">Players and teams around the league came together to honor Hamlin this weekend, but the best was — fittingly — the <a href="https://www.buffalorumblings.com/">Buffalo Bills</a>. The Bills paid tribute before the game, then Nyheim Hines paid the best possible tribute with a kick-off return for a touchdown to open the game.</p>
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<p lang="en" dir="ltr">CHILLS.<br><br> : <a href="https://twitter.com/NFLonCBS?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@NFLonCBS</a> <a href="https://t.co/9uXnx91reb">pic.twitter.com/9uXnx91reb</a></p>— Buffalo Bills (@BuffaloBills) <a href="https://twitter.com/BuffaloBills/status/1612148627904032768?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 8, 2023</a>
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<p id="jEMPJZ">The outpouring of love and support for Hamlin, his family, his teammates, and the Buffalo community in general has been nothing less than inspirational. </p>
<p id="rBJXgV">There are some things — many things, if I’m being honest — that are much bigger than football. This whole saga has served as an excellent reminder of all that we share and how we can come together for things that are truly important.</p>
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https://www.bigblueview.com/2023/1/8/23544990/2022-ny-giants-week-18-philadelphia-eagles-22-16-davis-webb-takeawaysChris Pflum2023-01-08T19:33:03-05:002023-01-08T19:33:03-05:00Live reaction! Talking Giants-Eagles, Week 18
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https://www.bigblueview.com/2023/1/8/23545432/live-reaction-talking-giants-eagles-week-18Nick Falato2023-01-08T16:00:00-05:002023-01-08T16:00:00-05:00Giants-Eagles, Week 18: Live updates
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<p>Follow Sunday’s action right here</p> <p id="FAr5qY">The <a href="https://www.bigblueview.com/">New York Giants</a> (9-6-1) will apparently rest many of their starters on Sunday while their opponent, the 13-3 <a href="https://www.bleedinggreennation.com/">Philadelphia Eagles</a>, gets quarterback Jalen Hurts back as they try to earn the No. 1 seed in the <a href="https://www.sbnation.com/nfl-playoffs">NFC playoffs</a>. The Giants are locked in as the No. 6 seed no matter what happens on Sunday.</p>
<p id="Jq8KJk">Quarterback Davis Webb is expected to make the first start — and throw the first regular-season pass — of his six-year NFL career on Sunday.</p>
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<p lang="en" dir="ltr">Giants corner Nick McCloud honors his friend Damar Hamlin pregame in Philadelphia. Awesome <a href="https://twitter.com/nickmmck?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@nickmmck</a> <a href="https://t.co/OM2QrzVM5X">pic.twitter.com/OM2QrzVM5X</a></p>— Pat Leonard (@PLeonardNYDN) <a href="https://twitter.com/PLeonardNYDN/status/1612169260771549186?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 8, 2023</a>
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https://www.bigblueview.com/2023/1/8/23544304/giants-eagles-week-18-live-updatesEd Valentine2023-01-08T15:11:48-05:002023-01-08T15:11:48-05:00Giants-Eagles inactives: Saquon Barkley being held out of season finale
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<p>Daniel Jones is active, but not expected to play</p> <p id="Fk0j5t">Running back Saquon Barkley, left tackle Andrew Thomas, defensive lineman Dexter Lawrence and safety Julian Love are inactive Sunday for the <a href="https://www.bigblueview.com/">New York Giants</a>, a clear indication that the Giants will be playing as many backups as possible in the season finale against the <a href="https://www.bleedinggreennation.com/">Philadelphia Eagles</a>.</p>
<p id="HdnpHo">Quarterback Daniel Jones is active, but Davis Webb is scheduled to make the first start of his six-year NFL career for the Giants.</p>
<p id="jXW5d1">Also inactive for the Giants are cornerback Adoree’ Jackson (knee), edge defender Azeez Ojulari (ankle) and defensive lineman Leonard Williams (neck).</p>
<p id="SQQUOv">Quarterback Jalen Hurts will return to the lineup for Philadelphia after missing two games with a right shoulder injury. </p>
<p id="gVnNGb">The Giants will be the sixth seed in the <a href="https://www.sbnation.com/nfl-playoffs">NFC playoffs</a>.</p>
<h2 id="pfzRBn">Giants inactives</h2>
<p id="YKHFSP">S Julian Love<br>CB Adoree’ Jackson<br>RB Saquon Barkley<br>OLB Azeez Ojulari<br>OT Andrew Thomas<br>DL Dexter Lawrence<br>DL Leonard Williams</p>
<h2 id="M7ZOPo">Eagles inactives</h2>
<p id="1m4jgV">QB Ian Book<br>CB Avonte Maddox<br>RB Trey Sermon<br>OT Lane Johnson<br>DE Josh Sweat</p>
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