Big Blue View - Giants vs. Dolphins: Giants drop the ball in preseason openerYour place for year-round New York Giants discussion and informationhttps://cdn.vox-cdn.com/community_logos/47371/bigblueview_fave.png2016-08-12T23:26:29-04:00http://www.bigblueview.com/rss/stream/122013312016-08-12T23:26:29-04:002016-08-12T23:26:29-04:00Six takeaways from the Giants' loss to Miami
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<p>What are the takeaways from the Giants' loss in their first preseason game?</p> <p>The first game of the (pre) season is in the books, and the <a href="https://www.bigblueview.com/" class="sbn-auto-link">New York Giants</a> came away with a 27-10 loss to the Miami Dolphins. So, what can we take away from the throwdown (exhibition) between the teams with the two youngest head coaches in the league?</p>
<h4>1. The 2016 Giants looked inconsistent</h4>
<p>Everyone has been wondering what the Giants would look like with Ben McAdoo at the helm as opposed to Tom Coughlin. After eight long months of wondering, we finally have our first glimpse.</p>
<p>The Giants' first team was impressively physical, with strong running from <span>Rashad Jennings</span> and <span>Andre Williams</span>, and impressive down-field blocking from <span>Sterling Shepard</span>. The defense was stout, aggressive, and smothering as they swarmed to the ball. It was everything the Giants could have asked from their first foray onto the field for 2016.</p>
<p>From there, the Giants were painfully sloppy.</p>
<p>Four turnovers, several recovered fumbles, penalties, and off-target throws turned the game in the <a href="https://www.thephinsider.com/" class="sbn-auto-link">Dolphins</a>' favor and a promising start into a mess. This game generated plenty of "teaching tape" for the Giants.</p>
<h4>2. <span>Ryan Nassib</span>
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<p>Perhaps the first big surprise of the Giants season was <span>Eli Manning</span> NOT starting a game. This is the first time the Giants have taken the field without their franchise signal caller under center for the first snap since the second preseason game of 2010 -- Manning missed that game thanks to an injury suffered during a botched hand-off the previous week.</p>
<p>This was Nassib's first real opportunity to step out from behind Manning, and it definitely could have gone better (to say the very least).</p>
<p>Nassib started out strongly, hitting <span>Geremy Davis</span>, <span>Shane Vereen</span>, and Sterling Shepard for a combined 36 yards, including a fantastic 24-yard diving reception by Shepard. The opening drive was capped by a 3-yard touchdown run by Jennings.</p>
<p>Nassib's opportunity turned into a nightmare once the second- and third-string players started seeing the field. With two interceptions of underthrown passes intended for Shepard and a fumble on a scramble, Nassib became the Dolphins' best defensive player.</p>
<p>While he was able to fit the ball into a couple tight windows, Nassib's inconsistency is a concern for the Giants.</p>
<h4>3. Free Agents</h4>
<p>Practically every time the Giants are mentioned anymore, it's prefaced by their unprecedented off-season spending spree. The big-ticket free agents, <span>Janoris Jenkins</span>, <span>Damon Harrison</span>, and <span>Olivier Vernon</span> proved dominating. The Giants first-team defense held the Dolphins' starters to a paltry 19 yards and an interception in their first three possessions.</p>
<p>JPP and Vernon had Ryan Tannehill under siege, notching several quarterback hits. Inside, the Giants mountainous defensive tackles were next to impossible to run on.</p>
<p>Early indications are that the Giants' spending spree is paying dividends</p>
<h4>4. The Rookies</h4>
<p>Former Giants' beat writer Mike Garafolo mentioned on NFL Network that Giants camp had a new and different feeling under McAdoo. A big part of it was the willingness to rely on rookies to be regular contributors to the team. The "Big 3" rookies -- <span>Eli Apple</span>, Sterling Shepard, and <span>Darian Thompson</span> -- in particular are expected to play vital roles this year. But how did all of the rookies do in their first taste of NFL action?</p>
<p>Well, all things considered. Shepard's catch was the highlight of the night.</p>
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<p lang="en" dir="ltr">We get it, it's preseason, but come on. This catch by the rookie <a href="https://twitter.com/sterl_shep3">@sterl_shep3</a> is ridiculous. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MIAvsNYG?src=hash">#MIAvsNYG</a><a href="https://t.co/DZgYObgpbe">https://t.co/DZgYObgpbe</a></p>
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But rookies showed up all over the field. Eli Apple came up with a good stop to get the defense off the field on Miami's first possession and Darian Thompson also played well.</p>
<p>Despite a botched hand-off, <span>Paul Perkins</span> looked as quick and elusive as advertised and B.J. Goodson was all over the field. Defensive tackle <span>Greg Milhouse</span> was disruptive in the middle, notching one of the Giants' four sacks. Finally, Romeo Okwara had a good showing, playing well in the run game and getting pressure on the passer.</p>
<h4>5. The Returning Injured</h4>
<p>The Giants never intended to pair Brandon Merriweather and <span>Craig Dahl</span> with <span>Landon Collins</span> in 2015. Nor did they intend for <span>Kerry Wynn</span> to be a starter, or for <span>Markus Kuhn</span> to play quite as much as he did. But with injuries to <span>Nat Berhe</span>, <span>Bennett Jackson</span>, Mykkele Thompson, <span>Jason Pierre-Paul</span>, <span>Owamagbe Odighizuwa</span>, and <span>Johnathan Hankins</span>, Steve Spagnuolo was forced to play the hand he was dealt.</p>
<p>JPP's first game with his modified glove went well, showing no hesitation to use his maimed hand. At one point he simply walked the right tackle into <span>Ryan Tannehill's</span> lap, leaving him no place to go while Vernon came in for a hit.</p>
<p>But the biggest return was <span>Odighizuwa</span>, who finished the night with a pair of sacks for a loss of 10 yards. Owa's power and explosiveness were a problem for the Dolphins, and the Giants have to hope he builds on a good night and becomes a threat behind -- and alongside -- JPP and Vernon.</p>
<h4>6. Surprise Of The Night</h4>
<p>Ending on a good note, the surprise of the night has to be Andre Williams' running.</p>
<p>Before the game both Invictus and Ed thought that Williams' roster spot was in jeopardy, but the third-year back was the Giants best runner Friday night. He totaled 41 yards on 9 carries (4.6 yards per carry), and showed solid vision following his blockers and an improved burst through the hole. He played even better than the box score indicates, with a 12-yard run wiped out by a holding call, and a tackle for loss thanks to a blown block.</p>
<p>Hopefully, Williams can build on his strong performance throughout the preseason.</p>
https://www.bigblueview.com/2016/8/12/12458166/giants-dolphins-final-score-six-things-we-learned-in-giants-27-10-lossChris Pflum2016-08-12T22:59:17-04:002016-08-12T22:59:17-04:00Giants beaten by Dolphins in preseason opener, 27-10
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<p>Turnovers doom Giants in loss to Miami</p> <p id="4tr2iD">A promising start on Friday night for the <a href="https://www.bigblueview.com/">New York Giants</a> got washed away in a sea of turnovers and sloppy play as the New York Giants lost to the <a href="https://www.thephinsider.com/">Miami Dolphins</a>, 27-10, in the preseason opener for both teams.</p>
<p id="tkUvSb">The Giants got off to an impressive start and led, 10-0, before quarterback <span>Ryan Nassib</span> imploded with two interceptions and a fumble that helped Miami to a 17-10 halftime. A fumble by rookie running back <span>Paul Perkins</span> set the Dolphins up for a fourth-quarter score.</p>
<p id="q0yDmv">Nassib finished 7-of-15 for 75 yards with two interceptions and a fumble. <span>Andre Williams</span> ran nine times for a team-high 41 yards.</p>
<p id="cUI9hJ">Defensively, Mark Herzlich had eight tackles, rookie <span>B.J. Goodson</span> had seven tackles, Owa Odighizuwa had two sacks and three quarterback hits and <span>Olivier Vernon</span> had a pair of quarterback hits. Linebacker Jonathan Casillas had an interception.</p>
<p id="LCMM00">Neither quarterback <span>Eli Manning</span> nor wide receiver Odell Beckham Jr. played for the Giants. Both were held out by coach Ben McAdoo. <a href="http://www.bigblueview.com/2016/8/12/12461846/giants-dolphins-in-weather-delay/in/12201331">The game was delayed nearly an hour</a> by severe weather.</p>
<h3 id="LKTSnH">Moments That Mattered</h3>
<p id="DnfAZj"><strong>Eli not starting: </strong>McAdoo decided not to start Manning. a change from how the preseason opener was handled in the past. (<a href="http://www.bigblueview.com/2016/8/12/12454488/ny-giants-miami-dolphins-eli-manning-kerry-wynn-innactive-ryan-nassib-logan-thomas-okwara">Read the full story</a>)</p>
<p id="7QLgIK"><strong>That weather delay:</strong> Just what everybody wanted, I’m sure. A weather delay that officially lasted 43 minutes. (<a href="http://www.bigblueview.com/2016/8/12/12461846/giants-dolphins-in-weather-delay">Read the full story</a>)</p>
<p id="my3QTE"><strong>The “other” Eli appears to be OK:</strong> First-round pick <span>Eli Apple</span> left the game in the first half, but appears to have escaped serious injury. (<a href="http://www.bigblueview.com/2016/8/12/12462886/ny-giants-onjuries-eli-apple-sterling-shepard">Read the full story</a>)</p>
<p id="zJKob9"><strong>Failing to protect “The Duke:”</strong> McAdoo refers to the ball as “The Duke” and drills ball security every day. The Giants, however, turned the ball over four times Friday. Miami turned those gifts into 24 points.</p>
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<p lang="en" dir="ltr">"We had six balls on the ground and two turnovers I'm not pleased about any of that." - Coach McAdoo</p>— New York Giants (@Giants) <a href="https://twitter.com/Giants/status/764296290809290752">August 13, 2016</a>
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<h3 id="JA5GKD">Quotable</h3>
<aside id="IBwmQ9"><q>“I made the decision not to play Eli tonight. We have a pretty good idea of what Eli can do, and as I said the other day when asked, Ryan is going to play a lot of football for us this preseason. And that starts tonight. We will also get Logan (Thomas) some work, as well.”</q></aside><p id="iBocf7">— <strong>Ben McAdoo</strong> on not playing Eli Manning</p>
<h3 id="6JEf5m">What’s Next?</h3>
<p id="qm4SaM">The Giants will be off Saturday, but will return to the Quest Diagnostics Training Center for the final public practice of training camp on Sunday, Aug. 14. That workout begins at 11:10 a.m. ET. The Giants will break camp on Monday with a closed practice that is scheduled to start at 10:40 a.m.</p>
<h3 id="f3oIDf">Remaining Preseason Schedule</h3>
<p id="uZ6kT8"><strong>Saturday, Aug. 20</strong> — @ <a href="https://www.buffalorumblings.com/">Buffalo Bills</a>, 4 p.m.</p>
<p id="kRbqrA"><strong>Saturday, Aug. 27</strong> — @ <a href="https://www.ganggreennation.com/">New York Jets</a>, 7:30 p.m.</p>
<p id="u4HgM6"><strong>Thursday, Sept. 1 </strong>— vs. <a href="https://www.patspulpit.com/">New England Patriots</a>, 7 p.m.</p>
https://www.bigblueview.com/2016/8/12/12459474/giants-dolphins-final-score-giants-falls-27-10-in-preseason-openerEd Valentine2016-08-12T22:19:00-04:002016-08-12T22:19:00-04:00Apple, Shepard end the night early with injuries
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<p>Check out the injury report during the New York Giants first preseason game. </p> <p><a href="https://www.bigblueview.com/" class="sbn-auto-link">New York Giants</a> fans have grown accustomed to this, but it is still never easy looking at the injury report. During the opening preseason game against the <a href="https://www.thephinsider.com/" class="sbn-auto-link">Miami Dolphins</a>, the first two rookie selections of the Giants have had their nights ended early with injuris.</p>
<p>Per reports, <span>Eli Apple</span> is getting his left "outside knee" checked out by the team's medical staff. He was shown walking on his own towards the locker room. As for now, there is little concern that this is an ACL or MCL injury.</p>
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<p dir="ltr" lang="en">Weird "outside of knee" announcement on Apple. But hey, you can rule out the ACL or MCL.</p>
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<p><span>Sterling Shepard</span> had himself quite the night, especially with an impressive diving catch. He left the game early with a groin issue. However, this is not expected to be serious as he is not even getting it treated for now.</p>
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<p dir="ltr" lang="en">Pretty confident in saying that Sterling Shepard is fine. He's still on the bench not even getting treatment. Precautionary. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Giants?src=hash">#Giants</a></p>
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<p><b>UPDATE:</b> Both Apple and Shepard were seen on the sideline still in uniform during the second half, which has to be a good sign.</p>
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<p><b>UPDATE 10:13 p.m.:</b> The Giants announce Apple's injury as a "strained lower leg."</p>
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<p><b>UPDATE 10:18 p.m.: </b>The Giants announced that wide receiver Geremy Davis is out with a hamstring injury.</p>
https://www.bigblueview.com/2016/8/12/12462886/ny-giants-onjuries-eli-apple-sterling-shepardKeane Macadaeg2016-08-12T21:31:19-04:002016-08-12T21:31:19-04:00Dolphins 17, Giants 10: Second-half open thread
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<p>Use this thread to discuss the second half</p> <p id="bFiIgW">The <a href="https://www.bigblueview.com/">New York Giants</a> trail the <a href="https://www.thephinsider.com/">Miami Dolphins</a>, 17-10, at halftime of their 2016 <a href="http://www.sbnation.com/nfl-preseason">NFL preseason</a> opener at MetLife Stadium.</p>
<p id="CFINBz">After a weather delay of nearly an hour the Giants got off to a 10-0 lead in the first quarter but a trio of second-quarter turnovers by quarterback <span>Ryan Nassib</span> helped the Dolphins charge to the lead.</p>
<p id="ElaZGn">The Giants put together a 10-play, 74-yard drive to open the game. Defensively, they allowed only 18 yards and no first downs in the first quarter. Things went downhill in the second quarter.</p>
<p id="8MyWjo">The Giants saw first-round pick <span>Eli Apple</span> (knee) and second-round pick <span>Sterling Shepard</span> (groin) both leave the game in the first half. More on those when information becomes available.</p>
<p id="do7IBk">Nassib went 5-for-11 for 62 yards with a fumble and two interceptions. <span>Andre Williams</span> ran eight times for 36 yards.</p>
<p id="soUAuA">What will happen in the second half? Keep it here to find out, and to discuss it.</p>
https://www.bigblueview.com/2016/8/12/12462396/giants-dolphins-halftime-score-giants-trail-miami-17-10Ed Valentine2016-08-12T21:15:31-04:002016-08-12T21:15:31-04:00Eli Apple's Left Knee Is Being Checked Out<h3 class="link-title"><a rel="nofollow" href="https://twitter.com/Patricia_Traina/status/764268426231709696">Eli Apple's Left Knee Is Being Checked&nbsp;Out</a></h3>
<div class="description"><p><p>Eli Apple left tonight's game with an apparent left knee injury. Apple walked off under his own power. His return is unknown at this time.</p></p></div>
https://www.bigblueview.com/2016/8/12/12462868/eli-apples-left-knee-is-being-checked-outDanBerkman2016-08-12T20:09:12-04:002016-08-12T20:09:12-04:00WATCH: Sterling Shepard's First Giants Catch<h3 class="link-title"><a rel="nofollow" href="https://twitter.com/WootandWye/status/764251676618416128">WATCH: Sterling Shepard's First Giants&nbsp;Catch</a></h3>
<div class="description"><p><p>It may just be pre-season but Sterling Shepard is already beginning to make an impression.</p></p></div>
https://www.bigblueview.com/2016/8/12/12462080/watch-sterling-shepards-first-giants-catchDanBerkman2016-08-12T19:34:00-04:002016-08-12T19:34:00-04:00Weather delays start of Giants-Dolphins
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<p dir="ltr" lang="en">Weather delay over! RT if you're ready for <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Giants?src=hash">#Giants</a> football!!! <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MIAvsNYG?src=hash">#MIAvsNYG</a> <a href="https://t.co/WmGvsfyH5c">pic.twitter.com/WmGvsfyH5c</a></p>
— New York Giants (@Giants) <a href="https://twitter.com/Giants/status/764245452741017601">August 12, 2016</a>
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<p>UPDATE: As of 7:32 p.m. fans at MetLife Stadium are being <a href="https://twitter.com/Giants/status/764242952424136704" target="_blank">allowed to return to their seats</a>. Estimated kickoff time is <a target="_blank" href="https://twitter.com/Patricia_Traina/status/764243268444061696">7:50 p.m</a>.</p>
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<p>Severe weather is forcing the <a href="https://www.bigblueview.com/" class="sbn-auto-link">New York Giants</a>-<a href="https://www.thephinsider.com/" class="sbn-auto-link">Miami Dolphins</a> preseason game to be delayed. No word at this time when kickoff will be.</p>
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<p dir="ltr" lang="en">WEATHER UPDATE: Fans at <a href="https://twitter.com/MLStadium">@MLStadium</a> please take shelter. Updates to follow <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MIAvsNYG?src=hash">#MIAvsNYG</a> <a href="https://t.co/rDUlP07emD">pic.twitter.com/rDUlP07emD</a></p>
— New York Giants (@Giants) <a href="https://twitter.com/Giants/status/764233451016949760">August 12, 2016</a>
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https://www.bigblueview.com/2016/8/12/12461846/giants-dolphins-in-weather-delayEd Valentine2016-08-12T18:00:04-04:002016-08-12T18:00:04-04:00Giants vs. Dolphins, preseason Game 1: Live updates
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<p>Let’s watch, and discuss, some football</p> <ul id="kLZs3x"><li><a href="http://www.bigblueview.com/2016/8/12/12462396/giants-dolphins-halftime-score-giants-trail-miami-17-10">Second-half open thread</a></li></ul>
<p id="P8fybd">Welcome to your first <a href="https://www.bigblueview.com/">New York Giants</a> game day of 2016, albeit the preseason variety. Your Giants face the <a href="https://www.thephinsider.com/">Miami Dolphins</a> Friday night at MetLife Stadium (7 p.m. ET) in their preseason opener, their first game action with Ben McAdoo at the helm. Here is <a href="http://www.bigblueview.com/2016/8/12/12415514/ny-giants-vs-miami-dolphins-game-time-tv-channel-online-streaming-odds-more">how to watch, listen to or bet on Friday’s action</a>.</p>
<p id="Hyk0Ik">The Giants announced earlier Friday that <a href="http://www.bigblueview.com/2016/8/12/12454488/ny-giants-miami-dolphins-eli-manning-kerry-wynn-innactive-ryan-nassib-logan-thomas-okwara">quarterback Eli Manning will not play</a> against the Dolphins. That is a McAdoo decision, and one that stands in stark contract to the way former coach Tom Coughlin always handled Manning in preseason openers. Joining Manning on the sideline will be <span>Victor Cruz</span> (groin), <span>Kerry Wynn</span> (groin), <span>Keenan Robinson</span> (groin), <span>Jay Bromley</span> (ankle/PUP) and J.T. Thomas (hamstring/PUP).</p>
<p id="CQ8tUD"><span>Ryan Nassib</span> will start at quarterback for the Giants and figures to play well into the second half before giving way to Logan Thomas. The game will provide a good opportunity to look at many of the Giants young players and to assess position battles like those at wide receiver, running back, tight end and reserve safety spots behind <span>Landon Collins</span> and Darian Thompson.</p>
<p id="Ae2bTD">Here is more information and reading material to help get you through the evening.</p>
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<li><a href="http://www.bigblueview.com/2016/8/12/12453204/ny-giants-player-spotlight-anthony-dable-nfl-preseason-schedule-miami-dolphins">Anthony Dable ready to “show out”</a></li>
<li id="7CKdjS"><a href="http://www.bigblueview.com/2016/8/12/12416108/giants-vs-dolphins-preseason-game-1-five-things-to-watch">Five things to watch in Giants vs. Dolphins</a></li>
<li id="MOh1hA"><a href="https://twitter.com/bigblueview">Follow @BigBlueView on Twitter for in-game comments</a></li>
<li id="AaPaIP"><a href="https://www.bigblueview.com/?&_ga=1.143528882.647635451.1470008779#schedule">Giants schedule</a></li>
<li id="xyoC5B"><a href="http://www.giants.com/team/roster.html">Giants roster</a></li>
<li id="t9mLJH"><a href="http://www.bigblueview.com/2016/8/11/12439110/for-dolphins-fans-a-little-odd-to-see-olivier-vernon-with-giants">Q&A with our Dolphins blog, The Phinsider</a></li>
<li id="pZvdkx"><a href="http://www.bigblueview.com/ny-giants-training-camp-2016-news-updates-analysis">BBV Giants training camp hub page</a></li>
<li id="BM5m8m"><a href="http://www.giants.com/broadcast-info.html">Giants broadcast info, including radio affiliates</a></li>
<li id="Q1vtVU"><a href="http://www.bigblueview.com/2016/8/11/12426032/updated-new-york-giants-53-man-roster-projection-let-s-see-what-has-changed">Latest 53-man roster projection</a></li>
<li id="d46bJb"><a href="http://www.sbnation.com/scoreboard/nfl?_ga=1.118962318.647635451.1470008779">SB Nation NFL scoreboard</a></li>
<li id="pqgN9Z"><a href="http://www.sbnation.com/nfl">Complete SB Nation NFL coverage</a></li>
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<p id="mGIJyJ"><strong><em>NOTE: </em></strong><em>Let’s try to remember that this is preseason. I’m asking nicely for you to try and behave yourselves in the comments.</em></p>
https://www.bigblueview.com/2016/8/12/12457884/ny-giants-vs-miami-dolphins-2016-live-updates-scoreEd Valentine