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Did Giants’ HC Brian Daboll make the right decision at quarterback?

BBV’s Ed Valentine looks at the bigger picture in Daboll’s decision to go with Tommy DeVito over Tyrod Taylor

Daboll’s job is to keep the locker room from imploding; keep it from turning on him. Daboll has been praised for his relationship building, something that is now being questioned with speculation about behind the scenes discord on the coaching staff.

The players turning — publicly — on him is the biggest reason Ben McAdoo did not last through his second season. Joe Judge lost the locker room at the end of his second season with his victory formation quarterback sneaks — while the team wasn’t winning — and his long-winded, bizarre answers to questions that made him seem divorced from reality. That is the pitfall Daboll has to avoid.

If DeVito continues to play well enough to do that, great. If he doesn’t, Daboll has to be willing to turn back to Taylor. The head coach is, in my view, walking a tightrope with the quarterback situation. We’ll see if he can stay on the wire.

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Giants need ‘element of patience’ during building year | ESPN.com

This is what Schoen and Daboll have going for them: They’re a package deal. They came together (unlike the previous regime of Dave Gettleman and Joe Judge, who seemingly never aligned) and are the closest coach-GM combination to come through this organization in decades.

“We are trying to build this thing,” Schoen said. “As much as we want instant gratification and instant results, there is an element of patience as you build it and try to build it the right way and you just can’t address everything overnight, and we are going to continue to work on it and I do believe in building it up front, and offensive line is important.”

Brian Daboll names Tommy DeVito Giants starting QB vs. Packers | New York Daily News

Brian Daboll surprisingly named Tommy DeVito the Giants’ Week 14 starting quarterback even though veteran Tyrod Taylor (ribs) is cleared for contact and practicing. The move viewed in some corners as disrespectful to Taylor, a 13-year veteran who commands a ton of respect on this team and seemingly was blindsided by the news.

DeVito’s story is a great one. However, this is a curious decision because it sends the better QB to the bench. And it’s a dangerous call because it shows players that practicing and playing well, and setting a strong example on and off the field – as Taylor has – won’t necessarily be rewarded here.

Would high draft pick QB in 2024 cool Giants’ Brian Daboll’s hot seat — and keep him around longer? | NJ.com

Giants general manager Joe Schoen said recently that once Daniel Jones’ torn ACL heals, he will resume his role as the team’s starting quarterback.

Which is what you’d expect Schoen to say. Did you think he was actually going to declare that Jones is toast and that the Giants are going to draft a quarterback high to replace him in 2024?

Daboll on Daniel Jones

What the Giants’ post-bye play will say about where they’re headed | New York Post

When the bye comes as late as it did for the Giants, in Week 13, so much has already come and gone.

Jason Pinnock figured out his Giants role and is excelling | New York Post

Defensive coordinator Wink Martindale has previously praised Pinnock, who believes he and the defense as a whole are now all in sync in Martindale’s scheme.

“Finally understanding [my role],” said Pinnock. “People on the outside don’t understand when you’re thrown in a system, I got here 10 days before the first game last year. You’re playing the game off of memorization, not understanding all the pieces in front of you.

2023 NFL Third-Quarter All-Pro Team: Dak Prescott, Tyreek Hill, Quinnen Williams and more | PFF

Dexter Lawrence has followed up his monster 2022 campaign with an even better season to date in 2023. He has racked up 53 total pressures, including five sacks and 11 quarterback hits, from 333 pass-rushing snaps, and his 32 tackles resulting in a defensive stop are the third most among interior defenders.

NFL Draft order 2024 projections: Patriots, Cardinals flip spots; Where would QB3 land? | The Athletic

For the sake of discussion, let’s just put Williams at 1 and Maye at 2. We can even take it a step further and guess that Arizona sticks with Kyler Murray — that means Marvin Harrison Jr. at 3.

Would the Commanders or Giants (projected at No. 4 and No. 5, respectively) then kick the tires on Jayden Daniels or J.J. McCarthy? Tennessee (No. 6) seems willing to see where the Will Levis ride takes it, and the Jets potentially have Aaron Rodgers coming back for the 2024 season.

NY Giants free agents: Ranking their 10 best signings in franchise history | The Record

We take a look at the 10 best free-agent signings of all-time for the New York Giants. The best one was made in 1948.

This week’s opponent

Packers looking to shore up defensive details | Packers.com

A couple of Isiah Pacheco’s longer runs came when the Packers dropped a safety into the box as an extra run defender, yet Pacheco still gashed them.

It’s imperative the Packers square that away this week going up against the Giants and running back Saquon Barkley next Monday night. New York’s passing game has struggled all season, and third-string QB Tommy DeVito is expected to be taking the snaps.

Aaron Rodgers speaks on Packers’ Jordan Love with Pat McAfee | Acme Packing Company

“As well as he’s playing, can we not crown him right now,” said Rodgers. “For his own sake, because we shouldn’t do that to kids. We shouldn’t crown them and we shouldn’t cancel them.”

“I love Jordan. I think he’s going to be a great player in the league for a long time. Am I surprised by the way Jordan’s played? No. Am I happy for him? Hell yeah.”

Around the league

Cowboys' Mike McCarthy to undergo surgery for acute appendicitis, anticipates coaching Sunday vs. Eagles | NFL.com

‘Ban it!’: Eagles’ Jason Kelce doesn’t care if NFL removes ‘tush push’ | The Athletic

Jalen Hurts vs. Dak Prescott: Why NFL MVP might be at stake in Sunday’s showdown | FOX Sports

Eagles tight end Dallas Goedert expects to return for Week 14 vs. Cowboys after missing three games | CBSSports.com

How the Commanders reached the crossroads and what comes next | ESPN.com

Jets head coach Robert Saleh announces QB Zach Wilson will start Sunday vs. Texans | NFL.com

Josh Dobbs will start for Vikings in Week 14 vs. Raiders | Pro Football Talk

Christian Kirk to have surgery, will miss 6-8 weeks | CBSSports.com

What happened with the Panthers? ‘Hunger Games’ culture, backstabbing and another fired coach | The Athletic

Bills GM Brandon Beane: Von Miller to practice, play while facing domestic violence charge | NFL.com

Quarterback Injuries Are Defining the NFL Playoff Race | The Ringer

Taylor Swift has ‘no idea’ how often she’s shown at Chiefs games: ‘I’m just there to support Travis [Kelce]’ | CBSSports.com

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