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New York Giants news, 2/22: Kiper, McShay get into classic Daniel Jones argument

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Mel Kiper, Todd McShay call each other delusional about Daniel Jones

Kiper and McShay arguing is always priceless. When it’s about the Giants, even better.

Here is the conversation:

Kiper: “[The Giants] have a franchise quarterback, so now they just have to build the line up…”

McShay: “According to Mel Kiper.”

Kiper: “… well, according to anybody that watches the Giants except Todd. And you… let’s face it, you didn’t like him coming in, so you’re going to ride this false narrative through his career. Never give the kid credit…”

McShay: “It is honestly one of the most surprising things, and it shouldn’t be because I’ve worked with you for so long now, going on 15 years. It still is so shocking to me, because I thought this was going to be an easy one. Like ‘yeah, it’s his rookie year, but he clearly didn’t play as well as I thought..’”

Kiper: “He played unbelievable! Todd! Todd!”

McShay: “I just assumed that was going to be the narrative and you were going to come crawling back to me saying ‘I hope year two is better.’”

Kiper: “Are you delusional? You’ve got to be dreaming, delusional or drinking something other than your bottle of water.”

McShay: “I honestly think you’re delusional if we watched the same games.”

Kiper: “If we go back and watched every Giant game and saw the throws he made, I’d say ‘what are you looking at?’ You can say the same to me, tell me I don’t know what the hell I’m looking at?’ Because if I’m looking at the Giants week after week with what he had to deal with, with receivers in and out….”

McShay: “We spend plenty of time alone in that green room. I’d love to watch every single throw… let’s get somebody to cut it up.”

Amani Toomer Still Not Sold on Giants QB Daniel Jones | WFAN Sports Radio 66AM 101.9FM

“I’m excited,” Toomer said. “I just don’t know what we have in him.”

“He had a couple good games early, but most quarterbacks when they get their first start they’re going to succeed because nobody has the book on them,” Toomer said. “They don’t know what they’re gonna do, don’t know what they like, what they don’t like; basically they’re playing honest.”

“But more film, more defenses are allowed to cheat and take away tendencies, and that’s when usually quarterbacks will have four good games and all of a sudden go in the tank.”

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