Each week, BBV editor Ed Valentine sorts through his mailbag and answers reader-submitted questions. Many of the questions received have been so good that they warrant their own separate post, so starting this week, Ed is letting me answer one such question in a longer post.
This week’s post is in response to a letter from Bruce Frazer, as follows:
If (QB Josh) Rosen is made available by the Cardinals, do you truly think that the Giants would try a trade for him? Seems that last year they weren’t that enthusiastic about his potential vs the rest of the 2018 QB class. The fact that he dropped to No. 10 indicates that other QB needy teams might have felt the same. From what has been reported it might be that they punt the QB question until next year when they have the cap space and assets to get the QB they really want from a much superior pool of players.
Thanks for the question, Bruce. I think there are a few misconceptions here, so let’s take your question one point at a time, clear those up and arrive at an answer.
First, I really think a potential trade for Josh Rosen will come down to the Cardinals’ asking price (assuming they put the quarterback on the market).
If they are going to insist on a first- or even a second round pick, then I do not think the Giants will make the move, as I suspect they will want to spend at least two of those three picks on defensive players.
Now the question becomes, will the Cardinals accept a third-rounder and a conditional third-rounder next year, and if so, under what conditions?
In this case, I suspect they would not agree to make that trade with the Giants because New York’s third-round pick is way down at the bottom of the round, 95th overall.
Okay, so if you’re the Giants at this point, you have to ask yourself if you really want Rosen, are you willing to send the No. 2 pick and a conditional No. 3 next year?
Or do you say, “There’s a lot of good value in the second round to where I don’t want to spend it on a player who is probably going to sit a year?”
Personally I think the Giants go with Door No. 2. If the goal is to compete this year while they build, you don’t want to spend a draft asset on a guy who probably isn’t going to contribute this year.
Bruce wrote, “Seems that last year they [Giants] weren’t that enthusiastic about his [Rosen’s] potential vs. the rest of the 2018 QB class.”
We don’t know that to be a fact and I think it would be wrong to make that assumption based on how things unfolded last year considering everyone knew how Dave Gettleman felt about Saquon Barkley.
What we do know, based on what the Giants did, is that Barkley was graded higher than any of the quarterbacks, which is why he went No. 2 overall.
Had Barkley not been there, I believe the Giants second option would have been offensive lineman Quinton Nelson or edge rusher Bradley Chubb.
Last point. Bruce opined that he believes the Giants might “punt the QB question until next year when they have the cap space and assets to get the QB they really want from a much superior pool of players.”
The cap will have very little, if anything, to do with this decision. Remember, rookie deals are currently controlled and are based on where a player is slotted so you’re not talking about a major investment that will eat away at the cap.
Worse case is the Giants extend Eli Manning at market value and then swap out one of Alex Tanney or Kyle Lauletta for the new quarterback, whose cap hit shouldn’t be that much higher than Tanney’s or Lauletta’s 2020 figure.
I think the whole thing boils down to finding the right fit at quarterback and not forcing things. Gettleman and Shurmur have worked very hard to redefine the culture in the locker room. They want professionals who hate to lose (yes that’s a real thing, by the way).
I don’t get the sense they’re big on guys who see themselves as a “brand” using football to promote themselves.
They’re probably looking for a guy willing to make the Quest Diagnostics Training Center his second home like Manning has for years, which is why I don’t believe they’re going to rush into any decisions.