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NFL schedule, Week 4: Saints-Packers is national game

Here is your open thread for Sunday's 4 p.m. games for Week 4 of the NFL season. Most of the country will see the New Orleans Saints (0-3) as they visit the 1-2 Green Bay Packers. See for the game in your region.

Saints-Packers should be an emotional game. The season has not started the way either team would have hoped.

Miami Dolphins (1-2) at Arizona Cardinals (3-0), 4:05 p.m. ET -- TV: CBS. Line: Cardinals -6

Oakland Raiders (1-2) at Denver Broncos (1-2), 4:05 p.m. -- TV: CBS. Line: Denver -7

Cincinnati Bengals (2-1) at Jacksonville Jaguars (1-2), 4:05 p.m. -- TV: CBS. Line: Bengals -3

New Orleans Saints (0-3) at Green Bay Packers (1-2), 4:25 p.m. -- TV: FOX. Line: Packers -8

Washington Redskins (1-2) at Tampa Bay Buccaneers (1-2), 4:25 p.m. -- TV: FOX. Line: Buccaneers -3

Use this as your open thread.

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