It should be noted that while all of you are busy voting on an All-time Giants team and its head coach, Big Blue View has been working behind the scenes on a special project we know all of you will enjoy. I am proud to stand here on stage at the Motel 6 in Weehawken, NJ and present to you The All-Time Worst Giants Team. This was no easy task to assemble all of these players, but we've managed to do it.

When naming a head coach, there seemed to be only one man for the job, and that would be former head coach and famous card-counter Ray Handley.
Ray couldn't be with us tonight, but when BBV called to congratulate him, upon hearing the good news, he remarked "Who the @*^& is this? How the @%$* did you get this number? What the  $%$@ is Big Blue View? &%$# off!!!!!!" Ray's a big kidder, always with the jokes. We know he is proud of the team we've assembled

Here are some of the guidelines we followed for putting this team together:

1. This list is based solely on the player's performance as a New York Giant. What they did in Washington, Denver, the defunct World Football League, the XFL, or Pop Warner had no bearing. Some are great players who left their talent at Newark Airport when they came to the Giants, and some are players who left the Giants and found success in other places. But they were all bad as Giants.

2. Much to Mr. Cronin's chagrin, these players are all "Wilderness Years" and later, because quite frankly, those are the players we know best. But as always, BBV welcomes any suggestions of names from the 30's, 40's and 50's, there is always room for more on this team, we have no roster limits

So without further ado, or in this team's case, adon't, let's get right to it!

Beginning with the Offense:

QB: The Bachelor, The Fumble, and The XFL MVP (also known as Jesse Palmer, Joe Pisarcik, and Tommy Maddox)

RB:  Rocky Thompson, Herschel Walker, Brian Mitchell, Larry Csonka

WR: Emery Moorehead, Thomas Lewis, Odessa Turner, Brian Alford, Herman Moore

TE: Derek Brown, Aaron Pierce, Al Pupunu

OL: Luke Petitgout, Scott Gragg, Jeff Hatch, John Hicks, Trey Junkin

Giants football has always been about the Defense, with these guys being the exception

DL: Cedric "Cyclops" Jones, Kanavis McGhee, William Joseph, Frank Ferrara (Sopranos stunt work notwithstanding)

LB: Carlos Emmons, Barrett Green, Coleman Rudolph, Mike Croel, Lavar Arrington

DB: Jeremy Lincoln, Dave Thomas, Ralph Brown, Elvis "Toast" Patterson, Thomas Randolph

P: Matt Allen, Mike Horan ( a team this bad needs two punters!!!)

K: Bob Timberlake (he was 1 for 15 in FGA's in 1965, including 2 misses from inside 20 yards)

So there you have it, the All-Time Worst Giants team. I'd like to thank everyone for coming out tonight, and please, help yourself to a can of Pabst and a corn dog, there's plenty of both!

The thing that amazed me when putting this together is how many of these guys, whether they were draft picks, free agents, walk-ons, or radio contest winners, never played for another NFL team after they left the Giants.

By popular demand (an overwhelming 52-3 vote) we are conceding a spot on our All-Time Team to Amani Toomer.

So, now we start the vote over again for the second wide receiver on the team.

Vote in the poll for the receiver who will join Toomer.

Should we concede Amani Toomer a spot on our All-Time Team (he is cruising in the poll) and re-vote the 2nd slot?

If you guys want to do that, I will put up a new wide receiver poll this weekend without Toomer in it?

Wide receiver is next up as we close in on completing our Big Blue View All-Time Giants Team.

This should be an interesting vote, as we have well-known players from a variety of eras to choose from. The top two vote-getters will be named to the team.

So, here are your nominees.

• Amani Toomer -- Never thought of as a superstar, or a game-changing receiver, but he is -- statistically -- the best receiver in Giants' history. Straight from Giants.com, here is just some of the Toomer bio.
  
  

  -  Toomer holds franchise records for catches (620), receiving yards (8,917), touchdown catches (50) and 100-yard receiving games (22).

  -  Toomer has 34 more receptions than runner-up Tiki Barber (586) and 3,483 more yards than former record-holder Frank Gifford (5,434).

  -  Toomer also holds the Giants postseason records for reception (42), yards (582) and touchdowns (7).  No one else in Giants playoff history has more than 3 postseason touchdown receptions (Bavaro and Gifford).

  -  Toomer is 2nd in Giants history with 10,344 total yards (Barber is 1st with 17,359)…In addition to his receiving yards, Toomer has 1,060 yards on punt returns, 257 yards on kickoff returns and 110 yards rushing.

   -  Before injuring his knee in 2006, Toomer had caught at least 50 passes in 7 consecutive seasons and had at least 700 receiving yards in 6 of the previous 8 years, including 5 in a row with more than 1,000 yards. No other Giant in history has more than 3 consecutive 1,000-yard seasons.

  -   From 1999-2002, he became the 1st receiver in team history to catch at least 70 passes in 4 consecutive seasons.

  -   Has the 3 highest single-season reception totals in team history: 82 in 2002, 79 in 1999 and 78 in 2000.
  
  

• Homer Jones -- An explosive speedster, Jones averaged 22.3 yards per catch in a 7-year career from 1964-70. He spent the first six of those seasons with the Giants, and name to two Pro Bowls and one All-Pro team.

• Del Shofner -- Spent the final seven of his 11 NFL seasons with the Giants in a career that went from 1957-67. He made the Pro Bowl and All-Pro teams his first three seasons with New York, and caught more than 60 passes twice.

• Plaxico Burress -- Honestly, I'm not sure Plax has done enough yet to belong here. He has only been a Giant for three seasons, but he does has two 70+catch seasons, 29 touchdowns and a Super Bowl-winning touchdown catch. I think he COULD be an all-time Giants great, but I personally don't think he should be looked at that way yet. We will see how you guys feel.

• Kyle Rote -- Had an even 300 catches and 48 touchdowns in an 11-year Giants career from 1951-61. Made the Pro Bowl four times.

• Joe Morrison -- One of the best and most versatile players in Giants history, even if most of his career was wasted in the Wilderness Years. Morrison played flanker, halfback and fullback. Totaled 7467 yards rushing and receiving in his career. Caught 395 passes for 47 touchdowns and ran for 18 more touchdowns in 14-year career from 1959-73. I doubt Morrison will win a receiver spot here, or one of the two running back slots. Giants fans who saw Morrison, though, likely feel like I do -- that there ought to be a way to get this guy on the team.

As always, vote in the poll. You have until next Thursday.

As I suspected, Bill Parcells was the overwhelming choice of Big Blue View Nation to coach our All-Time Team.

Parcells received 82 of the 118 votes (69 percent). Steve Owen finished a distant second with 17 votes and Tom Coughlin earned 14.

We will move on to wide receiver now, a vote that I think will be very, very interesting. Your wide receiver choices and poll will be out shortly in a separate post.

Big Blue View All-Time Giants Team

Coach

Bill Parcells

Kickers

Punter -- Sean Landeta
Placekicker -- Matt Bahr

Defense

Defensive End -- Michael Strahan
Defensive End -- Leonard Marshall
Defensive Tackle -- Roosevelt Grier
Middle Linebacker -- Harry Carson
Middle Linebacker -- Sam Huff
Outside Linebacker -- Lawrence Taylor
Outside Linebacker -- Brad Van Pelt
Cornerback -- Dick Lynch
Cornerback -- Mark Collins
Safety -- Emlen Tunnell
Safety -- Spider Lockhart

Offense

Center -- Mel Hein
Guard -- Ron Stone
Guard -- Chris Snee
Tackle -- Rosey Brown
Tackle -- Jumbo Elliott
Tight End -- Mark Bavaro

In conjunction with the vote for the All-time Giants head coach, we thought you might enjoy a synopsis of every head coach the Giants have ever had. So let’s get right to it.

• Bob Folwell (1925): Folwell came to the New York Football Giants following a successful coaching stint at Navy. He led the Giants to an 8-4 record in their first year in the league, and then left to take over as head coach of the Philadelphia Quakers of the original American Football League.
  
• Joe Alexander (1926):  Alexander was an All-Star player for the Giants from 1925-1927, and in 1926 he also served as head coach. Also a practicing medical doctor, Alexander was one of the few Giants to receive a yearly salary. He relinquished the position of head coach for his final season in 1927. Alexander is also a member of the International Jewish Sports Hall of Fame.
• Earl Potteiger (1927-28): Potteiger took over as player-coach of the Giants in 1927, and led them to their first NFL Championship. The Giants were 11-1-1 in 1927, allowing a TOTAL of 20 points in the season. Potteiger was fired along with 18 players after posting a 4-7-2 record in 1928.
• Leroy Andrews (1929-30): Andrews came to the Giants after having been a player-coach for the Kansas City Blues/Cowboys and head coach of the Detroit Wolverines. He led the Giants to a 13-1-1 record in 1929, only to be outdone by the Packers, who went 12-0. In 1930 he had an 11-4 record when he was succeeded by co-player coaches Benny Friedman and Steve Owen. The Giants scored a lot of points under Andrews, 312 in 1929, and 308 in 1930, which are astounding numbers when you consider the fact that it was all done with the rushing game.
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  Steve Owen (1931-1953): A true pioneer of the game of football After serving as a co-player coach in 1930, Steve Owen was named head coach of the Giants for the 1931 season, continuing as a player to the end of the 1931 season, with a brief comeback in 1933. Owens compiled a record of 151-100-17 as Giants coach, winning the NFL title in 1934 and 1938, and 10 division championships. Steve Owen was the inventor of the "Umbrella Defense", a system that became the basis for today’s 4-3. Owen is also credited with the creation of the A Formation offense. He resigned as head coach in 1953. Owen was inducted into the Pro Football Hall of Fame in 1966.
• Jim Lee Howell: (1954-1960): Jim was a player for the Giants in the 30’s and again in the mid-40’s after returning from World War II before being hired to replace his mentor Steve Owen as head coach. The Giants performed well under Howell, playing in 3 title games, and winning the NFL Championship in 1956, when the Giants won their 2^nd "Sneakers Game" over the Bears, 47-7 at Yankee Stadium. Howell was a master at recognizing talent, and delegating responsibility to his assistants. This was a smart move on Howell’s part, since his Offensive Coordinator was Vince Lombardi, and his Defensive Coordinator was Tom Landry. Howell once remarked that his job was to "blow up footballs and keep order". He retired as coach after the 1960 season, but remained with the Giants as Director of Player Personnel until 1981. He finished with a coaching record of 53-27-4.
• Allie Sherman (1961-1968): Allie Sherman was named head coach in 1961 after 2 stints on the Giants coaching staff and 4 seasons as head coach of the Winnipeg Blue Bombers of the CFL. In 1961 he led the Giants to a 10-3-1 record and a berth in the NFC Championship game, which the Giants lost 37-0 to Green Bay. In 1962 Sherman became the first coach to ever be named Coach of the Year two years in a row as the Giants went 12-2 but again lost to the Packers in the NFL Championship game, 16-7. The 1963 season saw the Giants go 11-3 and again reach the NFL Championship game, only to fall again, this time to the Bears, 14-10. 1964 was the start of the infamous "Wilderness Years" as age caught up with many Giant players. After 4 more lackluster seasons, including a 1966 season that saw the Giants win a franchise-worst 1 game, Allie was fired after the Giants lost all their preseason games in 1969, finishing his head coaching career with a record of 57-51-4. Allie is a member of the Jewish Sports Hall of Fame.
• Alex Webster (1969-1973): "Big Red" was a player for the Giants in the late 50’s and 60’s, and took over as head coach after Allie Sherman was fired. Webster was named Coach of the Year in 1970, when the Giants finished 2^nd with a 9-5 record, but never made the playoffs during his tenure. He left the Giants after 1973, with a record of 29-40-1.
• Bill Arnsparger (1974-1976): Arnsparger had been the defensive coordinator of the Miami Dolphins, and the architect of the "No-Name Defense" that helped win two Super Bowls. Arnsparger took over the Giants during a time of transition. Yankee Stadium was being readied for a major renovation into a baseball-only stadium, and the new stadium in NJ was still 3 years away. Playing home games at the Yale Bowl and Shea Stadium, the Giants were a woeful 7-26, and Arnsparger was fired 7 games into the 1976 season, with the Giants at 0-7.
• John McVay (1976-1978): McVay was a head coach in the WFL when he was hired by the Giants as an assistant coach in 1976. When Bill Arnsparger was fired after 7 games, McVay took over as head coach, and the Giants went 3-4 the rest of the way, finishing 3-11. 1977 saw the Giants go 5-9 and finish last. 1978…."The Fumble", 6-10, McVay was fired at the end of the season, finishing with a record of 14-23 as Giants coach.
• Ray Perkins (1979-1982): Perkins was hired as head coach by new GM George Young after being an assistant with the Patriots and Chargers. After disappointing 1979 and 1980 seasons, Perkins returned the Giants to the playoffs in 1981, after a thrilling overtime win over Dallas when Joe Danelo boots a FG to propel the Giants to a win. The Giants then upset the defending NFC Champion Eagles at "The Vet" before losing in the divisional round to the eventual Super Bowl Champion 49-ers. Perkins resigned to return to Alabama after a strike marred 1982 season that saw the Giants finish 4-5. His career record is 23-34.
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  Bill Parcells (1983-1990): Duane Charles Parcells was named the Giants 12th head coach on December 15^th, 1982. One of his first moves as head coach was one of his most infamous, when he named Scott Brunner the starting QB. The results were a disaster as the Giants finished 3-12-1. It was also a tough year for Parcells personally, as he suffered through the death of backfield coach and friend Bob Ledbetter midway through the season. Rumors were rampant after 1983 that George Young was going to fire Parcells and hire University of Miami head coach Howard Schnellenberger. Parcells was retained, and in 1984, with Simms back at the helm, the Giants returned to the playoffs finishing 9-7, beating the Rams in the Wild Card, and losing again to the eventual Super Bowl Champion 49ers. In 1985, the Giants finished 10-6, and made the playoffs as a Wild Card. In their first playoff game ever at Giants Stadium, the Giants got their revenge on the 49ers, but then fell to the Super Bowl Shuffle Bears, 21-0 at Soldier Field, a game best known for the Landeta "whiff". In 1986, the Giants went 14-2, and with a stifling defense led by NFL MVP Lawrence Taylor and and an offense quarterbacked by Super Bowl MVP Phil Simms, the Giants were World Champions. 1987 was again marred by a strike, and teams were forced to use replacement players. By the time the Giants returned to work, they were 0-5. They went 6-4 the rest of the year, but it wasn’t enough, and the Giants missed the playoffs. The Giants again missed the playoffs in 1988 after a heart breaking loss to the Jets in the final game. 1989 saw the Giants return to the playoffs, winning the division with a 12-4 record, but losing in the division round to the Rams and Flipper Anderson, who may still be running somewhere through North Jersey. In 1990, the Giants finished 13-3, and went into the playoffs winning the NFC East. Phil Simms was hurt in Week 15 against Buffalo, but Jeff Hostetler was able to lead the Giants to their 2^nd Super Bowl win over Buffalo. Parcells left the Giants after the 1990 season, citing health reasons. He left the Giants with a career record of 77-49-1, and 2 World Championships. He was also named Coach of the Year in 1986.
• Ray Handley (1991-1992): Handley was the running backs coach under Parcells when he was named head coach. His coaching career lasts just two seasons, the Giants miss the playoffs both seasons, finishing 8-8 and 6-10. Handley was in over his head the entire 2 years, named Hostetler the starting QB over Simms for 1991, had a well-publicized argument with Channel 9’s Russ Salzberg over the QB situation, and was called out publicly by Lawrence Taylor, who said the coaches had quit on the team during a game. Handley was fired after 1992, with a record of 14-18, and his tenure is best known for an ugly shirt he wore for his first game as head coach, and some strange rumors about a Giant coverup for him that never seem to go away.
• Dan Reeves (1993-1996): Reeves became the head coach of the Giants in 1993 after Dave Waanstadt and Tom Coughlin turned the job down. Reeves recruited many of his former players, and the Giants finished 11-5 in his first season, won the Wild Card game against Minnesota 17-10, but were annihilated in the playoffs by the ever present 49ers, 44-3. 1994 is best known for one of the darkest days in Giants history, when in June of 1994 Phil Simms was cut after arguably one of his best seasons as a pro. Dave Brown was named the starting QB, and after a 3-7 start, the Giants won 6 in a row to finish 9-7, missing the playoffs. After posting 5-11 and 6-10 records in 1995 and 1996, Reeves was fired, and thankfully took Tommy Maddox with him. His career record with the Giants was 31-33.
• Jim Fassel: (1997-2003): After numerous stints as an assistant coach, Fassel was named the head coach in 1997. One of the main reasons he was hired was for his reputation as a "QB Guru", and the Giants desperately needed his help with starting QB Dave Brown, who was floundering after 3 seasons as a starter. Dave Brown was hurt in Week 7 and replaced the rest of the year by Danny Kanell, but thanks to a strong running game and an opportunistic defense that lead the league in takeaways, the Giants won the NFC East, finishing 10-5-1, and becoming the first NFC East team to go undefeated in the division. The Giants hosted the Vikings in the Wild Card Round, but let a 9 point lead with 4 minutes to play slip away, and lost 23-22. 1998 saw more QB unrest, as Brown was cut, and Kanell was named the starter, but was ineffective, replaced by Kent Graham for the last 6 games of the season, including a stunning win at Giants Stadium over the previously undefeated Broncos. 1999 saw the Giants take another step back to 7-9, and the instability at QB continued. For the third year in a row, Fassel had to make a midseason QB change, with the newly signed Kerry Collins taking over for the last 7 games of the year. The Giants had signed the troubled Collins hoping that Fassel could help resurrect his career. The 2000 season began with Collins as the starting QB, and the Giants got off to a 7-2 start, their best since 1993, but after 2 disappointing losses left the Giants in turmoil, Jim Fassel made his famous "guarantee", and the Giants rode the wave to a winning streak that culminated with a 41-0 thrashing of the hapless Vikings in the NFC Championship game. But the pumpkin hit this Cinderella team hard in Super Bowl 35, when the Ravens crushed the Giants, 34-7. 2001 saw the Giants once again miss the playoffs, finishing 7-9 after a promising 3-1 start. In 2002, the Giants rode a 4 game winning streak and a hot offense into the playoffs and had many thinking Super Bowl. The Giants met the 49ers in the Wild Card round, and when the Giants held a 38-14 lead with 4 minutes remaining in the 4^th quarter, they seemed to be taking the first step. Thanks to bad penalties, Jeff Garcia, and bad special teams play, the Giants collapsed, and the 49ers came back to win 39-38. Many Giants fans were calling for Fassel’s dismissal, but Fassel would remain as coach for the 2003 season. It would turn out to be his last, as injuries, poor play, and hangover from the 49ers game took their toll. Fassel was told before the season ended he would not be retained, but when given the choice, he chose to coach the last two games of the season, and was saluted by Giants fans at his final home game. Fassel finished with a record of 58-53-1, 2 NFC East Division Titles, and he is 3^rd all-time in wins by a Giants coach. He was named Coach of the Year in 1997.
• Tom Coughlin: 2004-present: Wellington Mara felt the Giants needed a jolt after Jim Fassel was fired, someone to restore Giants pride, so Tom Coughlin was named the head coach of the Giants shortly after the 2003 season ended. Tom Coughlin has taken the Giants to the playoffs each of the last three seasons, and as we all know, after almost being fired after 2006, and with a team in turmoil, coached the Giants to a win over the previously unbeaten New England Patriots in Super Bowl 42, 17-14. His current record with the Giants is 35-29, with a winning percentage of .547, which is good enough for 7^th all time among Giants coaches.

Mark Bavaro absolutely crushed Jeremy Shockey in the voting for the tight end position on our Big Blue View All-Time Giants team, getting 130 votes (78%) to Shockey's 32 votes (19 percent). Bob Tucker got the other 3% of the vote.

I am not surprised by Bavaro winning this vote. I am a little surprised by the margin, though. I have to believe Shockey's current difficulties with the team cost him some support.

We will take a quick detour and vote on a coach next. Our man 'jrs' is working on a piece about the history of Giants coaches. When that is ready to go, I will post the poll for that.

Big Blue View All-Time Giants Team

Kickers

Punter -- Sean Landeta
Placekicker -- Matt Bahr

Defense

Defensive End -- Michael Strahan
Defensive End -- Leonard Marshall
Defensive Tackle -- Roosevelt Grier
Middle Linebacker -- Harry Carson
Middle Linebacker -- Sam Huff
Outside Linebacker -- Lawrence Taylor
Outside Linebacker -- Brad Van Pelt
Cornerback -- Dick Lynch
Cornerback -- Mark Collins
Safety -- Emlen Tunnell
Safety -- Spider Lockhart

Offense

Center -- Mel Hein
Guard -- Ron Stone
Guard -- Chris Snee
Tackle -- Rosey Brown
Tackle -- Jumbo Elliott
Tight End -- Mark Bavaro

Rosey Brown with 60% of the vote and Jumbo Elliott with 33% were overwhelming choices for the offensive tackle slots on our Big Blue View All-Time Giants Team.

We have reached the point in our selection of players where we will begin discussing the skill positions.

First up is tight end, and that of course means a choice that will largely be between Mark Bavaro and Jeremy Shockey. Also on the ballot will be Bob Tucker.

I am anxious to see how this one will play out. Will the old-school Bavaro get more support than Shockey, the unhappy but undeniably talented current tight end? Will anybody remember how good Tucker, a great player on awful teams, was?

Let's break them down.

Mark Bavaro -- His 351 catches in 9 seasons hardly tell the story. His toughness and blocking were essential parts of the Giants offense in the late '80s.

Jeremy Shockey -- We're all angry with Shockey right now. He has, however, caught 371 passes in six seasons. Look past his current strained relationship with management, and he deserves strong consideration here.

Bob Tucker -- Tucker played from the Giants from 1970 to 1977 and caught more than 50 passes three times. He finished his career with 422 catches.

Big Blue View All-Time Giants Team

Kickers

Punter -- Sean Landeta
Placekicker -- Matt Bahr

Defense

Defensive End -- Michael Strahan
Defensive End -- Leonard Marshall
Defensive Tackle -- Roosevelt Grier
Middle Linebacker -- Harry Carson
Middle Linebacker -- Sam Huff
Outside Linebacker -- Lawrence Taylor
Outside Linebacker -- Brad Van Pelt
Cornerback -- Dick Lynch
Cornerback -- Mark Collins
Safety -- Emlen Tunnell
Safety -- Spider Lockhart

Offense

Center -- Mel Hein
Guard -- Ron Stone
Guard -- Chris Snee
Tackle -- Rosey Brown
Tackle -- Jumbo Elliott

Be sure to vote in the poll below.