Do people not realize how good Osi is?

If you count those games then his percentage is 74%. He got paid for 2008 so we have to count those games.

We need to keep him somehow, if he makes too much noise about not getting the deal he wants then i really dont know what to do with him, It would be heartbreaking for me to see him go. He has been one of my favorite players on the defense ever since we drafted him and thank Tebow Accorsi didnt trade him for Eli.

He makes this team better. There is no questioning this. And, as has been the philosophy of this organization for some time now, you can never have enough pass rushers.

This is part of the reason teams don’t repeat. JR will not open up them flood gates..

Word is JPP and Cruz are seeing dollar signs. Making improvement to the younger/budding stars contract makes a ton of sense (u save $ in the long run) .. This will not be happening for a vet looking for a final pay day.. Osi will more then likely play out his deal,and we will get a 3rd rounder next yr in his departure.. unless a team steps up with a nice package for him…(possible being as FA isn’t chuck full of good DEs)

Enjoyed the ride but this is more then likely Osi’s Swan Song..

Osi has been getting a bad rap for years here at BBV. He has done nothing but produce EVERY time he takes the field. Stevie Wonder can see this. Your post details many of the reasons why I love Osi and want him to retire a Giant. Rec.d!!!

Us NYG fans are spoiled, Osi would be the best pass rusher on damn near 31 other teams. But on the Giants he’s the #3 at best now that that damn Loch Ness Monster started runnin shit. And when Kiwi was allowed to play DE even he gives Osi a run for his spot.

Osi is really good. I don’t think there’s any question we benefit from having him. His leadership, humility and it just seems that everyone likes him the team benefits from that.

…..Its not that he is a 3rd string DE on this team (which he is) – so logic dictates that he be paid spot duty money, not hazzard pay like Tuck, JPP
…..Its not that he is poor against the run (which he is) relegating him to passing situations
……Its when he makes his plays – nearly every one of those is in a game altering situation (so it isnt the sack, or the strip sack that should be counted)…..it’s how many games do you want to win, where Osi puts you in a fabulous position to do so (which is fortunately true!)….and do you have some ready replacement who can do that
imho, that’s the context in which this situation needs to be looked at

I’ve always said Osi > Kiwi …ALWAYS.

yet imo Tuck > Osi (when Tuck is healthy) & JPP > Osi

and I’ve been saying this since the pre season

Look, do i want to keep the guy? sure. and I’m EXTREMELY impressed by the way Fewell can get all 3 DE’s their fair share of snaps, which i really did not think would happen.

but what do you do? Give in to his demands and pay him what he wants? lol, that’s insane

and the truth is, the Giants were taking offers on Osi before the season. but they didn’t get the offer they liked so they didn’t budge, but yes, JR listened. so to insinuate that those who suggested trading Osi were under valuing him is inaccurate.

he’s the 3rd best DE on the team. But Fewell has shown the ability to get him his reps.

keep him under contract. that OSI signed. Don’t budge. don’t give him more, but if he’d like to work out a 2-3 year extension that is FAIR in value than why not?

but top 5 DE money? no thank you.

and if someone wants to pony up that 1st rounder. well. I’m taking the call.

but what do you do? Give in to his demands and pay him what he wants? lol, that’s insane

If you pay him,sets the tone for the rest of the team….and that is NOT what you want to do.

It says Osi makes more than Tuck.

How can he sit there and say he deserves the money over Tuck.

I think he makes our pass rush deadly. Without him, they don’t have the same dynamic. But only if we can sign him for a reasonable price, I mean we’re having cap problems already. If he really wants to win, then he should know what to do. I’m sure he’s going to where the big money is though, unfortunately. It’s okay though, I wouldn’t mind seeing Kiwi play some DE with us, he’s pretty damn effective at his natural position.

The 30 FF proves that. He is like a Devin Hester for the defense. At anytime the complexion of the game can change because this man is on the field. Not sure how we give more money to him because there’s only so much to go around but I want Osi in blue until he calls it quits.

He is a bit one dimensional however.
The real question is,do we:
A:Trade him now for the best haul of picks possible.
or
B:Let a $ motivated Osi help us run to a repeat and possibly only recieve a compensatory pick in ’13
Part of this depends on the player himself.Is he willing to be the 3rd DE?
I will say it seems like a market short on pass rushers and we will always have a lot of talent to re sign and holes to fill at the same time.
Its the most interesting offseason question to me outside of the draft itself.

The situation is much more complex than that.

First, as it’s already been stated, Osi has been bumped down the depth chart with the emergence of JPP.

Second, because of his fall in the depth chart it is argued Osi is now overpaid to simply be a situational pass rusher. Pass rushing is his forte, he is elite in that facet of a DE’s responsibility.

Third, because he is so good at rushing the passer and he exhibited no erosion of that skill this season, his value is still decent enough so that, as opposed to keeping him until his contract expires and -in all likelihood- letting him go without getting anything in return, the Giants should get what they can and avoid any possible financial issues in the future.