Five Biggest Questions Facing The Giants This Offseason
by Ed Valentine on Feb 9, 2012 9:21 AM EST
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The New York Giants have many interesting, and difficult, decisions to make this offseason. Here is a quick look at what comes to mind as the five biggest questions as the team prepares to defend its 2012 Super Bowl title.
1. The Future Of Osi Umenyiora -- Throughout the 2011 season we knew Umenyiora's future with the Giants would have to be addressed this offseason. Flush with the excitement of victory during Tuesday's championship parade, Umenyiora told reporters that "of course" he wanted to stay with the Giants.
If Osi can truly be happy as the third wheel in the Giants' defensive end rotation behind Jason Pierre-Paul and Justin Tuck, and if he truly can accept the fact that the Giants are not renegotiating his contract, then he should certainly stay. The three-headed defensive end rotation gives the Giants something no one else.
If the Giants, and Umenyiora, don't believe he can remain happy in the current situation then general manager Jerry Reese needs to get what he can for Umenyiora and move on.
2. The Future Of Brandon Jacobs -- The often-moody running back is also proclaiming his love for the Giants these days and saying he wants to stay. Jacobs is due $4.4 million in base salary for next season, though, and that is a lot to pay for a backup running back with a lot of mileage on his tires.
3. Who Will Play Tight End? -- It won't be the torn ACL tandem of Jake Ballard and Travis Beckum, at least not at the beginning of the season. Bear Pascoe is a decent player and a fan favorite who helps as a blocker at both fullback and tight end, and can catch a little bit, but I can't imagine the Giants see Pascoe as an every-down starting tight end.
4. What To Do About The Offensive Line -- This group was probably the Giants' weakest link in 2011, and Eli Manning and Kevin Gilbride were successfully able to work around it. Will Beatty returning to left tackle will help. What do the Giants do at right tackle, where Kareem McKenzie is a free agent coming off a season in which he looked old and slow? What do they do at left guard, especially if David Diehl winds up moving to right tackle to replace McKenzie? Do they trust 2011 fourth-round pick James Brewer enough to play him in 2012? Can Mitch Petrus be a starter? Do they need to draft a center?
5. Can They Re-sign Mario Manningham? -- Super Mario has become the third wheel in the Giants' wide receiver group behind Victor Cruz and Hakeem Nicks. Despite his occasional screw-ups, Manningham is an awfully good third wheel, though, as he proved once again in the closing moments of the Super Bowl.
The Giants will have to fork over big money for Cruz this offseason, and you have to think there are teams out there who believe Manningham can be an explosive, play-making No. 1 or No. 2 receiver, and who will be willing to pay him like one. Can the Giants afford to pay him that way? Are they willing to turn the No. 3 receiver role over, finally, to Ramses Barden? Could Jerrel Jernigan figure in the mix?
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My biggest question during the offseason
What do I do with my Sundays? This weekend I’m just planning on basking in the Giants Super Bowl victory, but what after that? Suggestions?
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I work weekends during the offseason so I am not expected to get anything done during the football season.
Ask and you shall receive!!
nywins42 = nywins46
Who enjoyed a parade like us? NOOOOOOOBODY!
It is now wall to wall Basketball
Just shoot me.
I got a GIF for that!
Giants by 17 over GB, take it to the bank!
Giants by 10 over SF, take it to the bank! Well, OK, by 3, but we are Super Bowl bound!!!!!!!
Giants will score 30 (correction 21 (damn FG's/failed 2 pt conversion)) or more points, NE 20 or less. Guess who wins? Take it to the bank!
by Fester McDougal on Feb 9, 2012 9:30 AM EST up reply actions
Am I alone here in disliking basketball?
Tried to get into it as a kid, just never could. My guess is the lack of brute force. Look at my favorite sports: football (American), rugby, hockey, baseball, golf. The first three are just violent games. Baseball, specifically baserunning, can become violent and if you see me and my buddies golfing, violence (somewhat playful) may not be too far behind. And if you were to talk to me, I am a pretty even-keeled guy. Just something about sports brings out the caged animal in me. Got a lot of fouls playing basketball as a kid.
Husker/Giants/Mets fan living behind enemy lines.
college bball > NBA
more physical and better games than the NBA
"Oh sir, the Giants of New York took on the Packers of Green Bay. And in the end, the Giants triumphed by kicking an oblong ball made of pigskin through a big "H". It was a most ripping victory."
There will be plenty to read and contribute here at BBV.
This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.
Noted
Die hard Giants fan since wide Right! I was 6...
I'm down wit JPP
Yea you know me
Win Ugly.
-Eli Manning for MVP
It's called the city game
I grew up in Brooklyn with a ball in my hands, but I don’t really watch much anymore. To me basketball has always been about style as well as substance, which doesn’t suit everyone. The perfect example is that anyone can shoot 85%+ from the free throw line if they learn to shoot underhanded like Rick Barry did, but no does because they’re afraid to look silly.
Blue is the color of melancholy and honesty
Green is the color of inexperience, envy and nausea.
I freaking
hate basketball especially the NBA.
Jacobs to Eli: You're a beast, man. I can't say that enough!
I dont hate it, just cant watch it
A sport where only the last 2 minutes have any meaning simply bores me.
I got a GIF for that!
Giants by 17 over GB, take it to the bank!
Giants by 10 over SF, take it to the bank! Well, OK, by 3, but we are Super Bowl bound!!!!!!!
Giants will score 30 (correction 21 (damn FG's/failed 2 pt conversion)) or more points, NE 20 or less. Guess who wins? Take it to the bank!
by Fester McDougal on Feb 9, 2012 11:00 AM EST up reply actions
I can understand it...
especially if you live in New York. The Knicks are absolutely frigging terrible. For me though, I LOVE basketball….Feels great to be a Celtics fan too. LOL
I found a job that requires no weekends
Because during football season I was completely unproductive…unlike now where I am at work and on BBV 5 of the 8 hours (1 hour for lunch, 2 hours for naptime) = productive
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Ha...I try to split naptime and lunch right down the middle.
Ask and you shall receive!!
nywins42 = nywins46
Who enjoyed a parade like us? NOOOOOOOBODY!
...And often!!!
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
I got a GIF for that!
Giants by 17 over GB, take it to the bank!
Giants by 10 over SF, take it to the bank! Well, OK, by 3, but we are Super Bowl bound!!!!!!!
Giants will score 30 (correction 21 (damn FG's/failed 2 pt conversion)) or more points, NE 20 or less. Guess who wins? Take it to the bank!
by Fester McDougal on Feb 9, 2012 9:46 AM EST up reply actions
I hope I don't look like that when I drink!!!
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Big Blue View - Supporting the Catalina Wine Mixer since 2011
I sleep in, since I don’t need to get up early to be back from the gym by 1 for kickoff. Then I count down to the beginning of training camp.
by soulless chimney on Feb 9, 2012 9:43 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Was thinking the same thing this morning.
No clue how to spend the weekend. We got an overdose of football and then bam, nothing, it’s all over. Well at least my stress level will go back to normal
Plenty of stuff here on BBV new and past years.
This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.
wasn't Barden a healthy scratch for the post-season?
It’s hard to go from not being considered good enough to play at all in the most important games of the year to third WR on a pass-first team. Barden only plays IF Manningham leaves AND Jernigan can’t fill the role AND they can’t sign or draft a better option.
As for the other questions, I’d expect Osi stays, Jacobs goes, they draft or sign a TE, and McKenzie goes and they reshuffle and re-load on the O-line.
by long time listener on Feb 9, 2012 9:30 AM EST reply actions
I think so
I’ve wondered for a while what’s going on with his development. But I think he stays because we’ve hung onto him for a while and it’d be a waste never to get any return on that investment.
by soulless chimney on Feb 9, 2012 9:47 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
that's one reason they'd hang on to him
Another is because he’s physically gifted, and receivers of his size don’t grow on trees. But WR is going to have to be a strength again next year, since TE and, to a lesser extent, RB are going to be question marks. So they can’t waste a spot on a guy just because he’s their guy – if there’s someone better for that 3rd or 4th WR spot, they need to jump on it.
by long time listener on Feb 9, 2012 9:59 AM EST up reply actions
agreed
in the Giants defense no one expected this performance from Cruz. If pushed Barden down the depth chart. JJ was dressed because he is a returner.
Jacobs to Eli: You're a beast, man. I can't say that enough!
We carried Moss on roster for years so who knows...
This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.
no he wasn't
I got banned from Jests Blog for saying Chad Henne has better stats than Mark Sanchez. And they think they're the big brothers in this town? LMAO try again little sisters!
Let's Go Giants!!!!
Correct
He never would have made it, someone else would have claimed him off waivers.
All the Giants should play like Mark Bavaro.
TQ, DD and KMac Must Go!
TC, PF, KG, will stay but should go for the long term good.
It is equally worthless when people are always optimistic or always pessimistic. Either way I take their opinion with a pound of salt because I know they only have one setting. I post my own thoughts, not what either side wants to read.
by UnknownJintsFan on Feb 9, 2012 12:33 PM EST up reply actions
He was a healthy scratch because of his lack of ST ability
He’s really only capable of being a receiver, and we obviously had enough of those. Guys like Jernigan and Thomas were active because they’re damn good ST’s players.
I fully expect him to be penciled in for that 3rd WR spot if Ham leaves.
GIANTS! SB46 CHAMPS!
Then why was he drafted and a spot wasted?
This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.
Noone expected Cruz, obviously
And besides, he was a gamble, like all draft picks. A gamble that still has a good chance of paying out.
GIANTS! SB46 CHAMPS!
Yeah let us just hope Barden gets to prove himself soon. He can make a excellent green zone target.
This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.
I am looking forward to JR confounding us
with what will appear to be nonsensical moves to only prove to be brilliant and shrewd decisions in the next season.
I got a GIF for that!
Giants by 17 over GB, take it to the bank!
Giants by 10 over SF, take it to the bank! Well, OK, by 3, but we are Super Bowl bound!!!!!!!
Giants will score 30 (correction 21 (damn FG's/failed 2 pt conversion)) or more points, NE 20 or less. Guess who wins? Take it to the bank!
by Fester McDougal on Feb 9, 2012 9:31 AM EST reply actions 7 recs
Yes!!!
Head scratching in August leading to praise in January!!! GOTTA LOVE IT!!!
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Big Blue View - Supporting the Catalina Wine Mixer since 2011
AGREED
New York Giants 2011 Super Bowl Champions = FACT
The NFL will now FEAR THE LOWERCASE ny
by The Always Well Dressed... on Feb 9, 2012 10:02 AM EST up reply actions
exactly
can’t wait to see the draft day(s) open forums where JR gets non-stop blimp rides, only to show he’s once again the man.
"Oh sir, the Giants of New York took on the Packers of Green Bay. And in the end, the Giants triumphed by kicking an oblong ball made of pigskin through a big "H". It was a most ripping victory."
It will be interesting too see how long before the blimp rides offers happen.
This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.
Get the blimp!
Blue is the color of melancholy and honesty
Green is the color of inexperience, envy and nausea.
Share your thoughts but temper them with evidence of past performance.
I got a GIF for that!
Giants by 17 over GB, take it to the bank!
Giants by 10 over SF, take it to the bank! Well, OK, by 3, but we are Super Bowl bound!!!!!!!
Giants will score 30 (correction 21 (damn FG's/failed 2 pt conversion)) or more points, NE 20 or less. Guess who wins? Take it to the bank!
by Fester McDougal on Feb 9, 2012 10:29 AM EST up reply actions
Thank you
I like speculating as much as anyone but I bow to the master
Eli is our King!
I was looking at previous fanposts. I ran across one of your comments that stated
that you would call Jerry Reese as Ernie Accorsi’s equal or superior if we won a championship. Does that stand true now, trueblue?
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 9, 2012 12:27 PM EST up reply actions
I'd say he's better than Accorsi
Ernie was great, but he had a bit of riverboat gambler in him, would take a flyer on some speedster in the 2nd, what not
JR is like a machine, he’s a little scary, It’s like he’s the Eli of GMs. Just does his thing, his quotes are often a little goofy. Never wants the spotlight. But hes got to be the most driven person in the organization to do what he does.
He gets us a franchise QB when Eli is done, he could well go to the Hall of Fame. Its to the point when I see detractors I just laugh.
Eli is our King!
The argument Osi made last year makes even less sense...
He had a great year…when he wasn’t injured. He contributed massively during the playoffs and in big games during the season but he wants “top 5” DE money then I’m not sure…
He is the 3rd best DE on this team. Tuck needs a raise before we even think about Osi’s bank account.
Ask and you shall receive!!
nywins42 = nywins46
Who enjoyed a parade like us? NOOOOOOOBODY!
3rd best on this team
Does not mean the same as other teams. Osi is a starter on 75-90% of NFL teams. Osi is a #1 DE on 75-90% of NFL teams. Saying Osi doesn’t deserve the money because he is behind 2 of the best DEs in the NFL is stupid and asinine.
I do not understand the Osi hate from Giants fans.
I never hated Osi
I was mad he was reneg’ing on his contract. I hope he has grown up.
Regardless of what happens, No playoffs, playoffs, no superblow, superblow.... The 2011/2012 is one of my favorite Giants Teams of all time.
That was ridiculous of Osi to act up like that.
This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.
Does it matter to you that your reply doesn't address nywins comment?
Everything he said was truthful
You want to see Osi stay, just say it
Eli is our King!
Agreed.
I think everyone here at bbv already know that I am one of Osi’s biggest supporters. I must say that I agree that the formula that Fewell used this past season should remain if Osi remains with the giants. I also agree with Skii in that did try to renege on his current contract if you look at it from the outside, however, as has been stated already we don’t know what JR told him during 2010 season. I think that Osi is better than Tuck and his contract should be addressed before Tuck’s.
If you want to argue that Manning is a) not a great quarterback or b) not the best quarterback in franchise history your credibility is automatically shot.
by LoNJDTechnology on Feb 9, 2012 12:10 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
I claim I know nothing
therefore I am the smartest man in the world.
I think though, Osi realizes he could make a 1-2 mil a year for the next 2-3 years on this team, with the spot he has, OR he could make 2 mil next year playing every down, and then get cut, in a starting position where he HAS to play the run.
Regardless of what happens, No playoffs, playoffs, no superblow, superblow.... The 2011/2012 is one of my favorite Giants Teams of all time.
+1 but I disagree with you on one point Skii.
you are not the smartest man in the world, but you are 1 of the smartest men in the world :-) Let’s hope that Osi draws the same conclusion, and acts accordingly.
If you want to argue that Manning is a) not a great quarterback or b) not the best quarterback in franchise history your credibility is automatically shot.
by LoNJDTechnology on Feb 9, 2012 12:25 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
And the most interesting Man in the world
stay thirsty my friend
I got a GIF for that!
Giants by 17 over GB, take it to the bank!
Giants by 10 over SF, take it to the bank! Well, OK, by 3, but we are Super Bowl bound!!!!!!!
Giants will score 30 (correction 21 (damn FG's/failed 2 pt conversion)) or more points, NE 20 or less. Guess who wins? Take it to the bank!
by Fester McDougal on Feb 9, 2012 12:26 PM EST up reply actions
Osi is simply not playing for $1-2 Mil
He’s worth what we are paying him now, but another team will offer way more. It will be their foolish mistake due to his injury prone nature and his lack of run play ability/desire
Bleeding Blue since 1962
How did I not answer him?
Osi should get payed because 32 out of 32 teams in the NFL would LOVE to have him. He would also start for most of those 32 teams. Therefore he is worth top money.
He said top 5 money is not logical and you have to think about the future
You said he deserves to be paid (with NO reference to how much), You don’t address the idea of strategic planning at all
And you were nasty about it insinuating he was asinine. Whatever dude.
Eli is our King!
Noone said Tolly would be remotely as good as Osi.
But in the salary cap era, especially for a team like the Giants who are pushing the cap, you’ve gotta consider every position. Can’t just load up everywhere like the Yankees.
The idea would be unless Osi is willing to take a salary commensurate with his profile, that of an older, yet still elite pass-rusher with poor run-defense and a history of injuries, it would be better to use that money to improve some other position, or to keep another player who would be otherwise released.
In conclusion: try to keep Osi, but if he insists on getting that last, oversized Free Agency paycheck, let him go; the TEAM always comes first.
GIANTS! SB46 CHAMPS!
Osi will end up playing his remaining contract. Osi is not a problem for this offseason. he has a year left.
This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.
Oh definitely
Giants aren’t gonna trade him unless they get an overwhelming offer. They’ll ask him to honor his contract and then let him go free.
GIANTS! SB46 CHAMPS!
mario manningham
getting mario back would be awesome. obviously priority number one is to lock up victor cruz. after that i would love to see mario manningham get signed. maybe use a franchise tag on manningham? that is a thought. if osi is happy in his 3rd DE spot, by all means keep him. if he is disgruntled, lets cut our ties and move on.
the offensive line is going to need a complete overhaul. i have no insight at all as to how to do this, but that is why jerry reese received a standing ovation at the pep rally on tuesday. in reese we trust.
by The Blood of Eli on Feb 9, 2012 9:36 AM EST reply actions
I think Osi's stock has risen from where it was in pre-season.
He was injured but I think their are plenty teams who would pay him to rush the passer. Saints? Panthers?
Ask and you shall receive!!
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Who enjoyed a parade like us? NOOOOOOOBODY!
but will they pay a 1st rounder?
saints might now that you mention it, but the panthers definately wont
if reese drops the price tag on osi to a 2nd rounder i’d expect his phone to not stop ringing. you dont get 9 sacks in 9 games from just anybody
"I have smoked weed with alot of UFC champions" - Joe Rogan
"Você ta fudido. Se vai levar muita porrada, ta ligado?" - Anderson Silva
Yes
I think they are already in prelim talks
Its a lot harder than clicking a computer mouse to deal with a high end guy like Osi
Eli is our King!
i think Osi talks are a year too early
This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.
No way
Using the franchise tag on Manningham would be a terrible move. The Franchise Tag rule states that they would have to pay him the average of the top 5 paid players at his position or 120% of his last year’s salary, which ever is greater. Last year for WRs, that amount was about $11 Million dollars. There is no way you pay your mistake-prone #3 receiver that much money.
I like Manningham. He’s exactly what a #3 receiver should be, but that is way too much money to invest in him.
+1000
I agree. His catch in the Super Bowl was phenomenal but let’s not forget what the overall picture of what we get with Manningham. Ham is a 3rd WR option who was a #2 option who fell down the depth chart because of his inconsistent play and the emergence of the more consistent Victor Cruz. To use a franchise tag on him would be a mistake, especially when the guy has an MO for giving up on routes, running the wrong routes, not staying in bounds( he also had one of those in the SB), dropping TD passes occasionally, and a guy who has trouble getting open consistently in single coverage. Let’s not forget, Terrel Thomas and Osi deserve to be paid IMO. Osi has come up big for us, and I think it will be a huge mistake to let Osi go.
by PaulieTheDon1 on Feb 9, 2012 11:39 AM EST up reply actions
This^^^
If you want to argue that Manning is a) not a great quarterback or b) not the best quarterback in franchise history your credibility is automatically shot.
by LoNJDTechnology on Feb 9, 2012 12:20 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
i just disagree with all of you
but i dont care enough to argue
by The Blood of Eli on Feb 9, 2012 3:42 PM EST up reply actions
Love Manningham but
I hate the Franchise tag, it’s supposed to be a stopgap measure to allow more time for a trade or extension, not a way to buy 1 more, non-guaranteed year from a player.
Besides, the Giants can’t afford to put almost 10% of the cap for 2012 on Ham. If they get something done, it’ll be a longer term contract with a relatively small 2012 cap hit.
GIANTS! SB46 CHAMPS!
franchise tag ? on ur 3rd best WR?
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
Finally we get to see J Lin!!! Giant LB'zz
Can't use the tag on Ham
Wwould have to pay him a ton of money, which we don’t have…
Die hard Giants fan since wide Right! I was 6...
I'm down wit JPP
Yea you know me
Win Ugly.
-Eli Manning for MVP
Agree. Tag makes you pay top 5 average.
This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.
If we loose Ham
I think JJ12 will slide right in. I don’t mind Ham Staying but if he leaves for greener money IMO JJ12 is fast as all hell and can be a good slot receiver. Move Cruz to the outside to play with Nicks and we will be deadly. We need to draft a tight end in the Draft and pick up a another via FA. BJ is great and I love him to death but I think he is gone. Let Scott become the second back and grab another in the draft. this Offense has the potential to be better then we were this year.
Why is Tom Quinn still here? I loves me some Coach Clawfin.
So, basically, you are saying if we loss our meat then JJ will be inserted to fill the void?
Ask and you shall receive!!
nywins42 = nywins46
Who enjoyed a parade like us? NOOOOOOOBODY!
*lose...stupid illiterate
Ask and you shall receive!!
nywins42 = nywins46
Who enjoyed a parade like us? NOOOOOOOBODY!
That is a disturbing image
I got a GIF for that!
Giants by 17 over GB, take it to the bank!
Giants by 10 over SF, take it to the bank! Well, OK, by 3, but we are Super Bowl bound!!!!!!!
Giants will score 30 (correction 21 (damn FG's/failed 2 pt conversion)) or more points, NE 20 or less. Guess who wins? Take it to the bank!
by Fester McDougal on Feb 9, 2012 9:47 AM EST up reply actions
HAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Your the king off disturbing Images
Why is Tom Quinn still here? I loves me some Coach Clawfin.
Coming from Fester
It must be REALLY disturbing
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Your right, I need to stop posting these nauseating images....
I got a GIF for that!
Giants by 17 over GB, take it to the bank!
Giants by 10 over SF, take it to the bank! Well, OK, by 3, but we are Super Bowl bound!!!!!!!
Giants will score 30 (correction 21 (damn FG's/failed 2 pt conversion)) or more points, NE 20 or less. Guess who wins? Take it to the bank!
by Fester McDougal on Feb 9, 2012 9:58 AM EST up reply actions
Brady acting like a fairy is hysterical!!!
If you could photoshop some wings and a wand with fairy dust, it would be perfect
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Big Blue View - Supporting the Catalina Wine Mixer since 2011
Only one other guy regularly posed like that
Freddie Mercury
Blue is the color of melancholy and honesty
Green is the color of inexperience, envy and nausea.
I got a GIF for that!
Giants by 17 over GB, take it to the bank!
Giants by 10 over SF, take it to the bank! Well, OK, by 3, but we are Super Bowl bound!!!!!!!
Giants will score 30 (correction 21 (damn FG's/failed 2 pt conversion)) or more points, NE 20 or less. Guess who wins? Take it to the bank!
by Fester McDougal on Feb 9, 2012 10:23 AM EST up reply actions
What is that masked head doing around that singer's pelvic area?
This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.
Is that Darth?
Die hard Giants fan since wide Right! I was 6...
I'm down wit JPP
Yea you know me
Win Ugly.
-Eli Manning for MVP
Whatever is going on it is does not look good.
This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.
But Freddie Mercury was way cooler than Brady bitch.
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
"SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!"
"Eli. Your the money QB start with your leadership skiols which are laclkoing."
by ManningHam and Cheese on Feb 9, 2012 5:55 PM EST up reply actions
i hope JJ can be the guy
but its a question mark. we heard about this giants offensive scheme and how much they rely on the receivers to make the right read. Mario has a few years now with Eli and I think they can really be special together for another season.
Add an explosive receiving tight end in the draft and we can be scary.
by The Blood of Eli on Feb 9, 2012 9:43 AM EST up reply actions
this
I don’t understand the people that assume a little known, little used guy is just going to step in and play like a guy that had the biggest catch in the SB.
Think Cruz....
I got a GIF for that!
Giants by 17 over GB, take it to the bank!
Giants by 10 over SF, take it to the bank! Well, OK, by 3, but we are Super Bowl bound!!!!!!!
Giants will score 30 (correction 21 (damn FG's/failed 2 pt conversion)) or more points, NE 20 or less. Guess who wins? Take it to the bank!
by Fester McDougal on Feb 9, 2012 11:23 AM EST up reply actions
Think it's not up to us
You simply can’t pay MM like a #1, because the number of snaps he’ll play won’t merit that
if someone else will, how can he say no. It’s a deep,crop of FA WRs, let’s hope DJAX, Bowe and the rest grab the $$$. If it goes like AB and we sign him to a reasonable deal, he’ll be back.
After this year, I’d think on our own FAs we’d just trust JR to do the right thing.
Eli is our King!
HAM is not going to get courted as a #1 Wr,
nor is he going to get payed near what Djax or Bowe will (though he is a better Wr than Djax, Djax will get the money for his speed and return abilities). Ham will be offered elite #2 money, not #1 though.
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
"SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!"
"Eli. Your the money QB start with your leadership skiols which are laclkoing."
by ManningHam and Cheese on Feb 9, 2012 6:21 PM EST up reply actions
He is a FA in a bad year for WRs
Remember when TJ freakin Houshmenzada was the big FA WR prize? The market is flooded this year, he might not get offered all that much.
Go Giants!
Arguing on the internet is like running in the Special Olympics. Even if you win, you're still retarded.
Housh produced as a 1B Wr for a few years in Cincy though
Ham is a great #2 at best, hard to compare.
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
"SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!"
"Eli. Your the money QB start with your leadership skiols which are laclkoing."
by ManningHam and Cheese on Feb 9, 2012 9:19 PM EST up reply actions
We need some young upcoming WRs like we have now
This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.
Ham would be a luxury to keep
But, I will not cry into my pillow if he leaves. Need to lock up Cruz, keep him a Giant for life if possible! TE, OL, LB, DB are our 3 priorities in draft. If BJ goes, then RB moves up there. I would love a good TE, LB, OL with #32, but will also settle for BPA. I love Jacobs too, but will also not cry in my pillow if he leaves. No more aggravation with him tip-toeing to line and running straight up. Completely agree with the offense and I think, if everything stays the same but upgrades on line, you will see that happen.
Husker/Giants/Mets fan living behind enemy lines.
I will cry into my pillow.
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
"SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!"
"Eli. Your the money QB start with your leadership skiols which are laclkoing."
by ManningHam and Cheese on Feb 9, 2012 6:53 PM EST up reply actions
How is Db a priority?
we have 4 potentially 5 caliber CBs, and our starting safeties.
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
"SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!"
"Eli. Your the money QB start with your leadership skiols which are laclkoing."
by ManningHam and Cheese on Feb 9, 2012 7:05 PM EST up reply actions
Need to sign TT or Ross
Until that is done then it is a concern, can never have enough quality Dbacks.
Die hard Giants fan since wide Right! I was 6...
I'm down wit JPP
Yea you know me
Win Ugly.
-Eli Manning for MVP
LB and OL the focus
Get a 2nd for Osi, move Kiwi back to DE and move on. That means LB help is needed.
Offer Ham and Ross fair market to stay. They prob won’t. JJ can be the Cruz of 2012.
Agree with costanza! Let Scott become the second back and get the third stringer late in the draft.
Diehl plays RT, Petrus plays LG. Be nice if that works, but there are some good G and C UFAs out there.
More youth. Lower cost and less emotional baggage.
Bring lawyers, guns and money to get me out of this one! Stand in the Fire.
Cruz
Why do people not understand Cruz is a once in a generation find? JJ will not be the next Cruz if we are lucky he will be ok, and serviceable at the 3rd WR.
They are both speedy and have a similar build.
Give JJ the offseason and he or Barden should fill in nicely.
Now in section 133.
by Last year in Sec 127 on Feb 9, 2012 11:42 AM EST up reply actions
Cruz is a helluva player but I think
Eli deserves just as much credit in how well the receivers are performing. Look at receivers who have left the Giants, e.g. Smith, Hagan, and even Boss. If they’re still playing and healthy they haven’t put up numbers as good as when they were in blue.
by TempusSpatium on Feb 9, 2012 2:14 PM EST up reply actions
Eli should get most of the credit for that yes.
This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.
I think you mean a first for Osi
His value skyrocketed
Eli is our King!
I am a firm believer in stock piling play makers
Osi is one. Pay the man and move on.
I got a GIF for that!
Giants by 17 over GB, take it to the bank!
Giants by 10 over SF, take it to the bank! Well, OK, by 3, but we are Super Bowl bound!!!!!!!
Giants will score 30 (correction 21 (damn FG's/failed 2 pt conversion)) or more points, NE 20 or less. Guess who wins? Take it to the bank!
by Fester McDougal on Feb 9, 2012 12:07 PM EST up reply actions
I'd love to see Osi stay
But I get that the front office has to balance stuff. If we pay Osi, and it means losing JPP or Cruz or we can’t sign a FA to shore up a big problem, then it hurts you.
JR has already says he wants to talk, I’m pretty sure Osi will get a fair offer.
Eli is our King!
He has a year on the contract and he will want to play here since he knows this is a very good situation in pass rushing and a team in possible repeat situation.
This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.
Won't get a second
for Osi, now a situational player, more likely a 4th rounder at best.
Ricky Williams retired....Cue up Bob Marley,
"Excuse me while I light my spliff"...
His value isn't determined by our situation
Its determined by how many teams would like to have him
I don’t think we have any problem getting a 1, but that would be from a contender, might haunt us, a 2 from a bad team might be better.
Eli is our King!
and what will we do with 2 number one picks in a given year. We are in salary cap trouble even now
This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.
Osi should be asked to finish his contract.
This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.
JR and Osi
JR should shoot for a 1st. I am betting he cannot get that.
A high second would be worth it. Osi is no youngstrer, he’s an injury waiting to happen and emotional baggage to boot.
He is also a force.
A reasonable 2nd is my bet…IF JR even trades him. Maybe some creative financing takes place, which would be great. A happy Osi as the 3rd DE is a huge win for JR.
Bring lawyers, guns and money to get me out of this one! Stand in the Fire.
He should play out his contract. This is a good team and he is in a good situation with the players surrounding him.
This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.
I don't know about that
Cruz has been so good in the slot. From the slot he ended up breaking the team record for receiving yards. Why would the team want to shift him outside?
It's not a shift
Hes been doing both for at least 8 games
But it’s a fact that it’s easier to make big plays by the numbers, less traffic. Getting a new quality slot guy, and leaving Vic out there full time, and Nicks on the other side, you open up the middle dramatically.
Eli is our King!
Big Plays
Just looking back, Cruz was in the slot for his 99 yard TD vs. Jets, the 70+ yarder vs. Dallas, the one-handed grab vs. Seattle, and The Superbowl TD catch. He is such a match-up nightmare in the slot. He’s is a lot like Wes Welker, but with more speed, which is what allows him to break big plays. Yes, he gets moved around, but I think he’s been much more effective from the slot.
That's absolutely true
But long term, you have to assume that teams will take an approach similar to Pats, and give him outside treatment from the slot. That turned him into a possession WR.
I’d prefer to see JJ or Barden in the slot and him outside if MM leaves. MM has great deep explosion, so VC in the slot with MM outside is just great too.
Eli is our King!
Agreed
but the other thing I look at is the dangerous nature of inside throws. Those timing patterns require a precise route runner. Without that, you risk interceptions. I like Barden’s size, but I don’t trust him to run those kind of routes. His body makes him ideal on the outside.
Like Plax, Eli could just put it up there and be pretty sure his guy is going to be the one that comes out with it. I really think Barden had a lost year due to his injury. He really hasn’t had a chance to develop trust with Eli. He wasn’t able to participate in the lock-out passing sessions with Eli. That’s where Eli learned to trust Cruz.. Given a full off-season to prepare, I think Barden could be an impact player next year.
JJ could develop into a reliable slot guy, but that remains to be seen.
Barden will just hang around the locker room like Moss did
This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.
plus he won't take as many hits on the outside
we want to keep him in good working order
JPP + Cruz + Nicks + Eli
Yea, I'm excited about the next 10 years.
i have also wondered him in kick/punt return situations as a return man once in a while.
This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.
The biggest question is Manningham or Osi?? Passing game or rushing the QB?
In our system, it’s hard to integrate new guys into the system. We have a 1st rd DE in Kiwi and would be better served to put him on the D-line at his natural position and get a LB in FA or the draft. Manningham is priority #1. Since teams have effectively removed Cruz in the playoffs compared to the regular season, our tough division winning schedule next year, we need to move the ball. He is a must-sign.
But...
with Cruz being doubled, look at what Nicks did? If Ham moves on, JJ gets the shot or someone else. Hixon comes back healthy and Ham would just be the new Tyree.
I agree with getting Kiwi back on the line. Trade Osi, hopefully for a mid-2nd rd pick, and the rotation would be Tuck, JPP, Kiwi. Not adverse to selecting a DE high, because JR just does an awesome job at it and in JR I trust.
Husker/Giants/Mets fan living behind enemy lines.
Kiwi is good at DE, but keeping him over Osi is a FAIL
Kiwi hasn’t had the same type of impact that Osi has had at the DE position. I mean we’re talking about getting rid of a guy who recorded 6 sacks in one game, a guy who is notorious for strip sacks ( let’s not forget the TD saving one on Aaron Rodgers in the Divisional Round) and a guy who will cause havoc and take a lot of attention off of Tuck and JPP. Just look at how our defense flourished when all 3 of these guys were rushing the passer at the same time. Osi needs to be a lock.
by PaulieTheDon1 on Feb 9, 2012 11:49 AM EST up reply actions
Why we giving Osi away for a 2
Teams will be drooling for him
Eli is our King!
Not going to even get a second
30 years old, two knee surgeries…Before the season, a second, not now!
Ricky Williams retired....Cue up Bob Marley,
"Excuse me while I light my spliff"...
Well they got a two for broke leg, big mouth Shockey
Im guessing A GM that needs a pass rusher and sees itself as a contender would make the move.
Eli is our King!
So?
Which means NO was very desperate for a disgruntled TE, that means squat.
Ricky Williams retired....Cue up Bob Marley,
"Excuse me while I light my spliff"...
by Great Gatsby on Feb 9, 2012 11:29 PM EST up reply actions
Never underestimate what teams will do
for production out of the DE position.
JPP + Cruz + Nicks + Eli
Yea, I'm excited about the next 10 years.
A 2 n a 5 for Shockey
Die hard Giants fan since wide Right! I was 6...
I'm down wit JPP
Yea you know me
Win Ugly.
-Eli Manning for MVP
Hixon won't be back for a while.
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
"SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!"
"Eli. Your the money QB start with your leadership skiols which are laclkoing."
by ManningHam and Cheese on Feb 9, 2012 7:18 PM EST up reply actions
Shit
I knew I forgot something
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
"SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!"
"Eli. Your the money QB start with your leadership skiols which are laclkoing."
by ManningHam and Cheese on Feb 9, 2012 9:20 PM EST up reply actions
Together, Osi, Tuck & Jpp...
Make up one of the best pass rushing defenses is in the league and have given us no reason to think that it is no longer capable of getting pressure on the quarterback and producing turnovers. why in the hell would you want to break this up by trading 1 it’s key components?
If you want to argue that Manning is a) not a great quarterback or b) not the best quarterback in franchise history your credibility is automatically shot.
by LoNJDTechnology on Feb 9, 2012 12:46 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
You don't
But it’s possible that Osi won’t be happy with anything less than $10M per season, I’m not sure they can pay that much.
Eli is our King!
Osi got 12.5 sacks in 12 games.That's unbelievable.
At the same time, he STILL wouldn’t start over JPP and Tuck. He deserves top money, but with those two, we can’t afford him. It is what it is. Cruz is asking for more money now. JPP will bang on the table quite soon…not to mention our other free agents. Its what happens with championship teams…errybody wants some moolah.
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 9, 2012 2:32 PM EST up reply actions
"the disease of more"
- pat riley
Go Giants!
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Traveling to like 75% of the other SBNation football sites to read their analysis of the SB...
I got kind of sad. They all said (in some way or the other) that the Giants have the best WR corps in the NFL. And we finally got that recognition right as they are about to break up.
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 9, 2012 9:47 AM EST reply actions
funny thing about that, though
is that they don’t realize that Eli makes them better. he consistently gets the most out of his receivers, no matter who they are. I have a feeling that we’re going to see another receiver step up and make big plays next year. unfortunately for MM, I don’t see it being him.
"Oh sir, the Giants of New York took on the Packers of Green Bay. And in the end, the Giants triumphed by kicking an oblong ball made of pigskin through a big "H". It was a most ripping victory."
jerrigan is in a prime position
took a year to learn the offense and noone knows who the fuck he is. plus hes got an elite qb throwing the ball who has his brothers ability to make no name wrs awesome and star recievers better.
"I have smoked weed with alot of UFC champions" - Joe Rogan
"Você ta fudido. Se vai levar muita porrada, ta ligado?" - Anderson Silva
exactly
I have confidence that either JJ, DePalma (maybe), or some FA will become an effective slot guy. sure, losing MM would suck, because we’ve watched how great he can be, but we’ll be fine.
"Oh sir, the Giants of New York took on the Packers of Green Bay. And in the end, the Giants triumphed by kicking an oblong ball made of pigskin through a big "H". It was a most ripping victory."
How do you know?
JJ12 did nothing all year. No basis for thinking he can develop into a 3rd WR just like that. We will probably lose MM and I would prefer that Cruz stays as our slot receiver, where he is special. But we will need a 2nd WR. More hopeful Barden can do it than JJ12. 2 problems with Barden: Not sure he has good enuf work ethic and could be too slow for NFL.
DavebrownNOT
We know this why?
about JJ with the “crazy Walker skills”….
Ricky Williams retired....Cue up Bob Marley,
"Excuse me while I light my spliff"...
Meant for
trueblue63 below, oops!
Ricky Williams retired....Cue up Bob Marley,
"Excuse me while I light my spliff"...
I'm projecting what I saw
JJ makes silly fast cuts in traffic. He has calmed down since he muffed about 20 punts last preseason. Now he isn’t trying to go 80 on every touch. But it was pretty clear that he was coming on.
I didnt say he was Welker, just that I see some of the same things, quickness, quickness that is off the charts (not speed). And when he got a crease on KR he knew how to get North South right away. Generally speaking that’s very promising. Given our track history I always like our chances with 1st to 3rd round picks developing in years 2 and 3. Our coaches ability to train youngsters is very very high.
Eli is our King!
He looked like a different kid at the end of the season.
Ask and you shall receive!!
nywins42 = nywins46
Who enjoyed a parade like us? NOOOOOOOBODY!
oh yeah he did
looks like next year, we have a dangerous return man once again!
Regardless of what happens, No playoffs, playoffs, no superblow, superblow.... The 2011/2012 is one of my favorite Giants Teams of all time.
You mean
Like Becks and Barden, 2009 wasn’t JR’s best year…Nicks and maybe Beatty.
Ricky Williams retired....Cue up Bob Marley,
"Excuse me while I light my spliff"...
by Great Gatsby on Feb 9, 2012 11:24 PM EST up reply actions
JJ came on towards the end. There's a reason he got the KR job over anyone else.
Reese just stated (as mentioned on the twitter scene) that he expects an increased role for JJ12 as a reciever this year
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 9, 2012 2:33 PM EST up reply actions
JJ my man
I loved MM, I mean he’s just about the grooviest guy on the team (him and Nicks) who else says “he’s as cool as the other side of the pillow”? And of courmange balls.
But JJ is a real talent. He’s got those crazy Welker feet and look at how he’s matured as a KR. He’ll be ready. TC and co will have him coached up (they do a better job with the WRs than Flaherty does). We will be fine.
Eli is our King!
Of course the man balls.
Courmange WTF is a courmange
Eli is our King!
Also, I was not alone in thinking
JJ was taking one back to the house on Kickoffs…. Looks like he is dangerously fast.
Regardless of what happens, No playoffs, playoffs, no superblow, superblow.... The 2011/2012 is one of my favorite Giants Teams of all time.
I'm definitely with you on JJ12
I got banned from Jests Blog for saying Chad Henne has better stats than Mark Sanchez. And they think they're the big brothers in this town? LMAO try again little sisters!
Let's Go Giants!!!!
My wife loves him (she's a very casual fan)
But every time he starts cutting up field the excitement is there
Ive stopped worrying aout speed, they sad Nicks was only OK fast.
Eli is our King!
lol, Nicks looked more than OK fast
running away from the entire Atlanta and Green Bay defenses. Sometimes these draft experts (cough cough, Mel Kiper) don’t know shit. They thought we should take Britt he was the better pro prospect. I laugh at that.
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
"SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!"
"Eli. Your the money QB start with your leadership skiols which are laclkoing."
by ManningHam and Cheese on Feb 9, 2012 7:27 PM EST up reply actions
Noted.
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
"SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!"
"Eli. Your the money QB start with your leadership skiols which are laclkoing."
by ManningHam and Cheese on Feb 9, 2012 9:20 PM EST up reply actions
it would be beastly if we got osi to stay and had our nascar package available on the dline whenever we wanted.
not saying throw all 4 guys out there but tuck and jpp spelling with kiwi and osi would be the absolute best thing for our dline. whether osi stays or goes, kiwi should be back at the line, i know we keep messing with his head but he seems to embrace it. i like trattou from the limited time we saw him and think we should bring back tolly.
as for manningham, he had a down year but made up for it in the playoffs. i would love to welcome him back but realistically i think he will get a better offer. chicago can sure use him as well as many other teams. if he leaves i just hope he makes it out of the nfc east, dont really wanna face him and see him in another uniform twice a year.
New York Knicks '11-'12. lets gooo! ny
Is it not a year early to worry about Osi's contract? He has a year left.
This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.
I hope they can keep the core team intact...
I’m thinking particularly the receivers…I think BJ and AB..are pretty much fried..We have TE problems..and OL problems to address..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
by Bobbiblue on Feb 9, 2012 9:48 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
I'm with you on keeping the core
If it’s financially possible, i’d throw our DE’s in there too. Personally, i love our WR trio and the NASCAR front. No team can come close, especially the NASCAR front! Perhaps they could sacrifice a little dough and want this to continue?
AB is about ready to down shift to #2
Look for that in 2013
Eli is our King!
Keep AB
as a 10-12 touches a game type. Michael Bush anyone? The guy is underrated in my book.
Ricky Williams retired....Cue up Bob Marley,
"Excuse me while I light my spliff"...
Bush has been the guy I've been clamoring for
since everyone started talking badly about BJ way back when. I agree, Bush and AB is aan even better duo than AB and BJ. Throw in Da’Rel next season, who should def. be in the mix, and we would have earth, wind and fire 2.0.
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
"SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!"
"Eli. Your the money QB start with your leadership skiols which are laclkoing."
by ManningHam and Cheese on Feb 9, 2012 7:29 PM EST up reply actions
Dont know about Bush. He is getting old and not really that effective,
This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.
that would be awesome
but the raiders aren’t letting him go, mcfadden is made of glass.
Go Giants!
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Barden
Just a thought. JR drafted him mainly for his size, 6’6". He’s only listed at 224 lb., but could he conceivably bulk up in the offseason and switch over to TE? We’ve seen how effectively big guys like Gronkowski, Davis and Graham can play the position.
He better start eating Lard out of the can
Why is Tom Quinn still here? I loves me some Coach Clawfin.
I think he's bigger then 224
and also he probably needs to lose weight to get quicker. TEs like Gronk are as quick as they are cuz they were always big. You don’t just gain 30-40lbs and become good.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
I don't know if he can put on weight...
he has been eating cheesy puffs on IR for like 1000 years and is still skinny.
Ask and you shall receive!!
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Who enjoyed a parade like us? NOOOOOOOBODY!
and likes to run around without a shirt in the locker room
This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.
The problem with Barden is
he sucks at ST. That’s the reason Devin Thomas has been over him. As far as TE goes….he’d need to learn how to block, and as andi says…add at least 30-40 lbs. 6’6 250-260 lbs would be ideal.
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 9, 2012 9:52 AM EST up reply actions
I'm getting the feeling the coaches are not impressed with
his work ethic, learning ability or discipline.
And for me, something about him always getting in front of the camera shirtless for the locker room camera bugs me. It’s not a homophobic thing on my part at all, I am as liberal on all that as anyone can possibly be. But it’s about the need to draw attention to himself in what feels like a bit of a narcissistic way.
You need to be a flat out baller to pull all that off, and he has not done anything with his opportunities to approach his work like a diva.
Maybe I’m reading too much into it, but I’ve seen him called on it on twitter, and he just loves the attention.
Now everyone will say Eli is in Bradys class. F*ck me
by PatNation85 on Nov 6, 2011 4:31 PM PST
I don't have a problem with that stuff. I would like to know what he's doing that the coaching staff does not like.
Lets be honest here…the Giants probably gave Barden a lot more rope than they did a UDFA like Cruz. Either Barden slept with Gilbride’s wife, or he isn’t getting some aspect of the game. Not to mention that he’s been injured a lot. Whatever it is, I’d like to know.
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 9, 2012 10:18 AM EST up reply actions
I think it's about the learning and discipline
which in my theory anyway, flows from the personality stuff
Now everyone will say Eli is in Bradys class. F*ck me
by PatNation85 on Nov 6, 2011 4:31 PM PST
shrugs. Whatever it is, I hope it gets fixed
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 9, 2012 10:20 AM EST up reply actions
Barden was hurt
Our coaches are old school. They focus on the top 3 (another Blogging the …) posted stats on snaps, that says it all. If Barden wasn’t on PUP when Vic got his shot, then we would know. Once Vic had established himself, the discussion was over.
And you’re right, after top 3, WR must have a STs role, that’s just how TC rolls.
When we needed a WR in 08 MM when from invisible to starter. If MM leaves, they’ll give JJ and Barden a shot. Someone will emerge. Barden’s injury in 2010 really hurt him
Eli is our King!
Very Sinply
Not a good football IQ, go back and watch the Jets game, and you’ll see why he was riding the pine the rest of the season. I am tired of hearing about his injuries.
He had no idea in that game how to shield his 6’6" frame from a defender and catch the
damn ball, hence his playing time became nill! Dressed in sweats for SB as well!
Ricky Williams retired....Cue up Bob Marley,
"Excuse me while I light my spliff"...
by Great Gatsby on Feb 9, 2012 11:36 PM EST up reply actions
So we also have some locker room type discipline issues with him
This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.
Hadn't heard that one?
For example?
Ricky Williams retired....Cue up Bob Marley,
"Excuse me while I light my spliff"...
by Great Gatsby on Feb 10, 2012 12:26 AM EST up reply actions
Well
Like someone said above that he came to superbowl wearing sweats. i have seen footage of him running around the locker room after a game without a shirt when he was not activated for the game. Then he was trying to get in TC’s face to talk to him while TC was giving an interview.
i know this is not too big but it just shows his lack of character.
This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.
Immaturity
more than character, different things really, but I hear you.
Want to talk immaturity, just look at Gronk after a SB loss, just wow!
Ricky Williams retired....Cue up Bob Marley,
"Excuse me while I light my spliff"...
by Great Gatsby on Feb 10, 2012 5:46 AM EST up reply actions
Actually the coaches love Barden's football IQ
I think that’s why he’s still here, Gilbride has said that Barden can mentally and physically play any one of the receiver spots. I think he was squeezed out do to injuries and other circumstances but not cause the coaches don’t like what he’s capable of.
by Gmen_Fan_Forever on Feb 10, 2012 11:33 AM EST up reply actions
I love him
But I pretty much agree with everything you said.
Yes, I am a Giants fan. Now that we got that out of the way....
IMPEACH DOLAN!!!!
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by wilddre22 on Feb 9, 2012 7:03 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
He's a bad blocker
and thats the main function of a Giants TE….. more weight wont help him, he needs to be faster in and out of breaks.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
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Im 6'6" 230
and I dont feel small next to NFL guys (see my thumb nail). I dont know that he could block at that size, but he isnt very far off from being big enough to play.
May Doug Marrone bless you and keep you.
You kind of look like a cross between
Jason Seigel and Casey Affleck.
Strikeouts are boring- Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.
Youre not the first person to tell me that
But you know what no one has ever told me? That they find Jason Seigel or Casey Affleck attractive :(
May Doug Marrone bless you and keep you.
And I don't think you're gonna hear that here either brother!
Yes, I am a Giants fan. Now that we got that out of the way....
IMPEACH DOLAN!!!!
I bELIeve in ELI!!!! - Primetime -
The Big Boy Cometh....Team Jacobs
Marines say Oorah; BBVer's say SUAMBP! say it with me - Suuaahmbp!!!!
by wilddre22 on Feb 9, 2012 7:04 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Can't block worth a damn,
it’s why he was inactive in the postseason, can’t play special teams cuz he can’t block. He’d be a disaster at TE, especially with how we use our TEs as blockers, even if he did add 30 pounds.
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
"SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!"
"Eli. Your the money QB start with your leadership skiols which are laclkoing."
by ManningHam and Cheese on Feb 9, 2012 7:30 PM EST up reply actions
Ummm so why did we waste a draft pick on him? Did our so competent scouting not know of all this already?
This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.
He broke Jerry Rice's college recieving records,
You don’t pass on that. He’s a good down field blocker on much smaller corners, but he’s a bad ST blocker cuz he doesn’t have the speed to keep up with gunners, and it’s much harder to block a guy running at you, than block a corner who is just standing right in front of you.
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
"SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!"
"Eli. Your the money QB start with your leadership skiols which are laclkoing."
by ManningHam and Cheese on Feb 9, 2012 9:22 PM EST up reply actions
Why dont we use him as WR often then. He would be a good green zone weapon for us
This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.
Either way, I'd say JR's got the plans to make it happen
it a way he’s been planning for departures already, drafting Jernigan, Mook and JPP.
I think that while we’ll see the Boss/SS12 treatment of our FAs, we’ll see these guys sign that line this time or at least some of them.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
Prince and Pierre Paul
werent planned for departures……They were Gold that fell to us. we didnt need them per se but we would have been silly to let that talent pass.
Jernigan was a pick as a direct result of SS12’s injury IMO, i agree there.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
CB- Thomas, Ross
DE- Osi, Tuck’s getting older
WR- Smith, Manningham a FA, never knew what Cruz was.
Sounds like a plan.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
JPP wasnt gold that fell
No one wanted him… that was part of the issue, everyone thought that JPP was a wasted first rounder
Regardless of what happens, No playoffs, playoffs, no superblow, superblow.... The 2011/2012 is one of my favorite Giants Teams of all time.
he hasn't proven to me that he isn't a waste
Ask and you shall receive!!
nywins42 = nywins46
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that is so true
on so many levels
Regardless of what happens, No playoffs, playoffs, no superblow, superblow.... The 2011/2012 is one of my favorite Giants Teams of all time.
He's the garbage man
Cause he takes out the trash
(be very afraid DJACKFAN he’s looking for you)
Eli is our King!
It was a line that could not open holes in our running game
Fix this and the potent pass game becomes even more dynamic. The OL line needs special treatment this off season.
it wasn't just the OL
actually it was probably Bradshaw not trusting the blocks and running away from the holes.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
and..
Bradshaw is chronically injured. Are his broken feet going to heal themselves? He is going to have some great games, but will miss games and have off games because of the feet.
which is why we need 2-3 backs
but no one we’ll get will provide what AB does
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
dont forget Brown
AB, BJake, Ware, Scott and Brown.
plus something tells me we will draft USF’s Junior RB Darell Scott this year in the 5th.
Regardless of what happens, No playoffs, playoffs, no superblow, superblow.... The 2011/2012 is one of my favorite Giants Teams of all time.
Da'Rel and Darell Scott?
That’s a lot of Scotts.
by Pink Flamingo on Feb 9, 2012 12:16 PM EST up reply actions
I see JR falling in love is USF -Scott
He is built and runs like Lagarett Blount
Regardless of what happens, No playoffs, playoffs, no superblow, superblow.... The 2011/2012 is one of my favorite Giants Teams of all time.
yes
but most of USF will agree with you, he hasnt had a great QB in B.J. Daniels throwing him the ball.
Regardless of what happens, No playoffs, playoffs, no superblow, superblow.... The 2011/2012 is one of my favorite Giants Teams of all time.
Even Better
if he’s got the skills but hasn’t had a chance to show them, maybe he flies under the radar a bit more.
Me, I’d like to see us with a Tiki-style back. Slasher. A guy who can take a screen to the house. Maybe Da’Rel is that guy already, I dunno…or maybe it could be your Darell.
by Pink Flamingo on Feb 9, 2012 12:31 PM EST up reply actions
A Tiki style back or Meggett style return man is always good
This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.
God I miss Dave Meggett.
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
"SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!"
"Eli. Your the money QB start with your leadership skiols which are laclkoing."
by ManningHam and Cheese on Feb 9, 2012 9:23 PM EST up reply actions
Meggett was very good for us but he screwed up his life upon retireing from NFL. He had some city job in some state but
now he is serving several decade prison term for rape and burglary.
This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.
Need at least one of them
to be GREAT SCOTT
DavebrownNOT
In that I agree with you 100%
Regardless of what happens, No playoffs, playoffs, no superblow, superblow.... The 2011/2012 is one of my favorite Giants Teams of all time.
AB – injury prone
Bjake – gone
Ware – 3rd back at best
Scott – never saw the field for the worst running game in the NFL
Brown – never was on the team for the worst running game in the NFL
That group of guys needs help.
meh
nothing improved line play will not fix.
I got a GIF for that!
Giants by 17 over GB, take it to the bank!
Giants by 10 over SF, take it to the bank! Well, OK, by 3, but we are Super Bowl bound!!!!!!!
Giants will score 30 (correction 21 (damn FG's/failed 2 pt conversion)) or more points, NE 20 or less. Guess who wins? Take it to the bank!
by Fester McDougal on Feb 9, 2012 12:44 PM EST up reply actions
My thoughts:
1) Osi will be back, barring some team making a ridiculous offer to JR (ie: 1st rounder or better)
2) Jacobs is a toss up. I think he’ll be open to renegotiating his contract and taking less money. He’s said a few times that he plays for his teammates, not a check. Likewise, he said that the players and front office need to do whatever they can to keep the team together.
3) Andre Brown will be on the active roster next year. He should have been this year, but I think the coaches wanted to see if his achilles could hold up to a season’s worth of practices.
4) Sadly, I doubt ‘Rio will be back. He’s too good to take #3 money, and I think of several teams that will pay him to be #1 or 2.
4b) Barden or JJ12 will step up, and possibly be even better than Manningham. Both of them are smarter, and in this offense, intelligence is absolutely necessary. Barden offers physical tools that no other receiver on the team offer. JJ12 could very well be a better version of DeSean Jackson. Both are comfortable in the slot and on the outside, offering greater flexibility.
5) Bear Pascoe will be resigned, and Reese won’t be shy about fixing the position. They could also use Barden as a psuedo TE (his down field blocking is at last as good as Beckum’s. Just re-watch Cruz’s 99yrd TD. It was Barden that threw the blocks)
6) I’m not worried about the O-line. Reese has shown a definite plan when it comes to rebulding/tooling the O-line. Every draft there’s O-linemen who fall at least 1 round farther than they should, and Reese takes them. Beatty should have been a 1st rounder, Brewer could have been a 2nd rounder, Petrus was a day 2 pick.
Petrus is ready to start. He’s already started, and when he did they could run the ball. Baas will be fine at C. I see him taking the Canty career path: Injured and hated his first year, and then a rock and great pickup from there on out. I have confidence that Flaherty will have Brewer’s technique issues ironed out in time to start in September. He already showed great improvement through the pre-season.
Beatty – Petrus – Baas – Snee – Brewer makes for a powerful and athletic line. The only question is if the coaching staff (and fans) are willing to live with any growing pains the line might have.
7) Biggest question: Which Pro Bowler will Reese draft next?
I haven't
I see Boothe as the super-sub.
1) Boothe is too valuable as a backup to be starting (ie: if somebody goes down, you can just plug him in. if he’s starting, you have 2 upset positions rather than 1)
2) IMO, Baas and Petrus are both better at their respective jobs (C/LG) than Boothe is.
Problem with Petrus is mistakes
On tape you see him run the wrong way and then try to correct
If he learns the position he is a starter, he has excellent power, when he hits guys they move.
Eli is our King!
Another thing about Petrus is understanding what he says
This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.
JPP wants Osi back
Ask and you shall receive!!
nywins42 = nywins46
Who enjoyed a parade like us? NOOOOOOOBODY!
DERP
Second-year linebacker Jason Pierre-Paul told the New York Post on Wednesday that the Giants should do what it takes to keep the nucleus of their defensive line intact.
If JPP is a second year linebacker then who have I been watching play DE all season?
Ask and you shall receive!!
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That wouldn't be fair
Having two JPP’s. One at DE and the other at LB. I have thought how our D would look if JPP and LT played together!
Well, they do have
JPP and JWill… who is basically a smaller JPP.
Jwill
has been such an under appreciated get this past draft. NO ONE had him on their boards and he ended up playing that coverage LB dropping back as a safety spot so well, especially in the game against GB.
May Doug Marrone bless you and keep you.
He will be fine and people and teams will start to account for him on the field.
This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.
I want JPP at TE
that would be awesome
"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning
Crunked and Swagged out since 2011
"Let’s go out there like a bunch of crazed dogs and have some fun!" - The one and only LT
Whats interesting is i think he would be a beast SAM backer
Probably double Kiwi’s stats.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
Justin St. Pierre.
Duh.
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
"SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!"
"Eli. Your the money QB start with your leadership skiols which are laclkoing."
by ManningHam and Cheese on Feb 9, 2012 7:39 PM EST up reply actions
the Osi question is the hardest IMO
Brandon will rework his deal to stay as long as they don’t bend him over
Oline is well, in place. w/ exception to Mac who i think will be replaced at RT by Diehl.
I think they will sign a TE in FA
Fire Fewell
Osi will not be in the Giants' long term plans and I doubt we trade him.
1) Too many key pieces coming up in FA after next year or the year after (Kiwi, Cruz, Nicks, Tuck)
2) If we lose Osi to FA, we get a 3rd round compensatory pick so there’s no point in trading him unless its a 1st rounder.
3) He’s stated multiple times that he’d like to leave and the Giants are pretty inflexible giving into demands
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 9, 2012 9:57 AM EST up reply actions
you dont think we could get a 2nd for osi?
I agree he’s not in the long term plans for the giants. But if so, why not get whatever you can for him.I’d still rather have a decent 2nd round pick than a late/compensatory 3rd.
Would you rather have Osi's services + 3rd rounder or a 2nd rounder?
I think that’s the reason why the Giants are so adamant on a 1st round pick.
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 9, 2012 10:04 AM EST up reply actions
honestly.
id take the 2nd in a heartbeat. Because that 3rd rounder is more like a 4th. JR could land a starter with a decent 2nd and over the long term i think you get more value that way. Unless of course, with osi we win the SB again during that year.
As a fan, i see the arguement for OSI. But if I’m a GM and i trust/believe in my scouting and drafting abilites, i want that pick.
I still don't know what I want. No doubt the Giants believe they can make another run. Why
jeopardize that by getting rid of one of your biggest playmakers?
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 9, 2012 10:12 AM EST up reply actions
JR can get a first for him
How many teams couldn’t generate any pass rush?
The question is do they think Kiwi can replace him? If they need to draft a replacement it could well be a 2013 #1
Eli is our King!
he can go to some AFC East team who we do not see for 4 years unless we beat them in a superbowl'
This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.
I DEMAND that the Giants be flexible by giving into MY demands
Ask and you shall receive!!
nywins42 = nywins46
Who enjoyed a parade like us? NOOOOOOOBODY!
NOTED
and taking it under advisement
I got a GIF for that!
Giants by 17 over GB, take it to the bank!
Giants by 10 over SF, take it to the bank! Well, OK, by 3, but we are Super Bowl bound!!!!!!!
Giants will score 30 (correction 21 (damn FG's/failed 2 pt conversion)) or more points, NE 20 or less. Guess who wins? Take it to the bank!
by Fester McDougal on Feb 9, 2012 10:15 AM EST up reply actions
I could see them offering him something like a $12mm two year extension
With $4mm of it up front or guaranteed.
Then he can accept his role and the extra $$ or he can shut up and play next year for a better contract elsewhere. Nobody’s giving us a 1 or a 2 for him.
Blue is the color of melancholy and honesty
Green is the color of inexperience, envy and nausea.
My 2 cents
I think Mario will get a big offer and leave.
I think Osi will stay, and leave as a FA next year.
I think BJ should be released for his play, not attitude.
I think they have to rework Cruz’s contract, but on top of that. I’m sure who or how shrewd JPP’s agent is, I think JPP is a sincerely great kid. But, I’ve heard the argument made that his contract should be reworked as well, or might create another Osi situation, since he is currently being underpaid by millions based on his play.
Now, I don’t see JPP having the same disposition that Osi has, but might have an ahole agent eventually whisper in his ear and sour him.
I don't think people complain about rookie contracts until they are coming up to the final year...that's when they'd usually ask for an extension
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 9, 2012 9:59 AM EST up reply actions
I'm looking at you DeSean Jackson
Ask and you shall receive!!
nywins42 = nywins46
Who enjoyed a parade like us? NOOOOOOOBODY!
Yea. Just heard it on talk radio, and was interesting. That article nywins42/46 posted said he’s ok with his rookie deal.
I just don’t want some agent to create another Osi situation down the road. JPP if he stays healthy will be a playmaker for a long time.
I think it'd be more Osi creating a monster in JPP's head rather than some agent....
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 9, 2012 10:04 AM EST up reply actions
and i hope none of these guys have that agent i cannot stand and his name is something like Drew Rosencrap
This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.
I think the fact that new rookie deals aren't as good will help this
You know players with JPP’s skills hated to see college kids coming in three years later and making more money than they were before they set foot on the field.
Blue is the color of melancholy and honesty
Green is the color of inexperience, envy and nausea.
JPP gets extended early if he improves another quantum leap
Think about it
Week 12 2012 season, he’s a human highlight reel, you extend now and the player has to be thrilled, injury is always such a huge concern. You get a better deal for the team. And if any rookie Ive seen has earned it, he’s the one. Plays like he’s going to drop dead of exhaustion at the end of every game, totally humble.
Eli is our King!
Back2Back is what i ask and will take nothing less now
This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.
JPP is on a rookie contract.
You won’t see him get more money till his last season of the contract, then they’ll offer him a new one. Guys on rookie contracts don’t get to demand more money, no matter how good you are.
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
"SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!"
"Eli. Your the money QB start with your leadership skiols which are laclkoing."
by ManningHam and Cheese on Feb 9, 2012 7:42 PM EST up reply actions
Ham
it depends entirely on what he gets offered elsewhere. If it’s low enough that the Giants can/want to match, I’d think they will, but if he gets a big contract, and I think he will, then I’m afraid he’s gone. I can just see a team like DET or SF thinking they’re just a WR away and overpaying for Ham’s services.
Osi is going to come down to money too… I think he’ll be okay with #3 DE, especially with the way we rotate, but provided he’s getting paid $5-6 mil a year… whether that’s worth it or not, I don’t know enough about the cap situation to say.
Is it crazy
to envision Jacobs as a TE? He has the size, good hands and speed. Most backs are goners after or around 30, he could definitely extend his career
You're not a diehard fan if every now and then your team doesn't try to kill you
he does
he just has that bad habit of turning his head away before he catches the ball on those quick flat tosses.
I agree with this assesement coming out of hte backfield
and having to akwardly turn his hips and look for the ball as opposed to a Te who just has to swiviel his head is alot different …..example look at his td pass where he actually got ot run a deep route and did not have to turn his hips …just his head to see the ball and catch while one teh run …on the eagles ..first game of hte season …..damn the words THE ANd to lol
i got a ring! he got a ring !
Eli Manning Best Qb in the Game Today!
on Flava Flav"He wears a clock around his neck of course Coughlin would like him." no qb has 15 td’s in the forth quarter in one season …Except eli
no qb has 7 road playoffs wins ….Except Eli
no qb has won 2 sb’s in nyc where pressure kills …Except Eli
If BJ has good hands
I’m going to training camp to apply for TE job
DavebrownNOT
He left auburn (?) Because they wanted to convert him to lb
Don’t think he sees himself as anyrhing but a back.
Yes, I am a Giants fan. Now that we got that out of the way....
IMPEACH DOLAN!!!!
I bELIeve in ELI!!!! - Primetime -
The Big Boy Cometh....Team Jacobs
Marines say Oorah; BBVer's say SUAMBP! say it with me - Suuaahmbp!!!!
by wilddre22 on Feb 9, 2012 7:11 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
maybe a hback type then ? some runs and certain routes....
this idea does strike me as kinda brilliant though i think it should be looked at at the very least
see where bj’s at on this topic
i got a ring! he got a ring !
Eli Manning Best Qb in the Game Today!
on Flava Flav"He wears a clock around his neck of course Coughlin would like him." no qb has 15 td’s in the forth quarter in one season …Except eli
no qb has 7 road playoffs wins ….Except Eli
no qb has won 2 sb’s in nyc where pressure kills …Except Eli
kinda brilliant actually the more i think about it
maybe more of a hback type then a te ….kinda wut they wanted beckum to be
i got a ring! he got a ring !
Eli Manning Best Qb in the Game Today!
on Flava Flav"He wears a clock around his neck of course Coughlin would like him." no qb has 15 td’s in the forth quarter in one season …Except eli
no qb has 7 road playoffs wins ….Except Eli
no qb has won 2 sb’s in nyc where pressure kills …Except Eli
BOOM
Ask and you shall receive!!
nywins42 = nywins46
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by nywins46 on Feb 9, 2012 10:05 AM EST reply actions 2 recs
M is for moron
I got a GIF for that!
Giants by 17 over GB, take it to the bank!
Giants by 10 over SF, take it to the bank! Well, OK, by 3, but we are Super Bowl bound!!!!!!!
Giants will score 30 (correction 21 (damn FG's/failed 2 pt conversion)) or more points, NE 20 or less. Guess who wins? Take it to the bank!
by Fester McDougal on Feb 9, 2012 10:07 AM EST up reply actions
agreed
I hope something good comes out of her stupidity…and the cancel halftime shows moving forward.
Ask and you shall receive!!
nywins42 = nywins46
Who enjoyed a parade like us? NOOOOOOOBODY!
It is officially everywhere
I got a GIF for that!
Giants by 17 over GB, take it to the bank!
Giants by 10 over SF, take it to the bank! Well, OK, by 3, but we are Super Bowl bound!!!!!!!
Giants will score 30 (correction 21 (damn FG's/failed 2 pt conversion)) or more points, NE 20 or less. Guess who wins? Take it to the bank!
by Fester McDougal on Feb 9, 2012 10:08 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I love the Linda Blair one
Ask and you shall receive!!
nywins42 = nywins46
Who enjoyed a parade like us? NOOOOOOOBODY!
Linda Blair Bradying. "I can’t throw up and catch the ball at the same effin’ time!!!"
Ask and you shall receive!!
nywins42 = nywins46
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by nywins46 on Feb 9, 2012 10:10 AM EST up reply actions 4 recs
I submitted one
So obviously I need to check every hour to see if it’s gone up. Though mine isn’t particularly creative.
by soulless chimney on Feb 9, 2012 10:44 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Post it here!
I got a GIF for that!
Giants by 17 over GB, take it to the bank!
Giants by 10 over SF, take it to the bank! Well, OK, by 3, but we are Super Bowl bound!!!!!!!
Giants will score 30 (correction 21 (damn FG's/failed 2 pt conversion)) or more points, NE 20 or less. Guess who wins? Take it to the bank!
by Fester McDougal on Feb 9, 2012 10:45 AM EST up reply actions
Brits usually flip people off with two fingers
So she’s multi-cultural.
Blue is the color of melancholy and honesty
Green is the color of inexperience, envy and nausea.
LLOL!!!!!!!!!
i got a ring! he got a ring !
Eli Manning Best Qb in the Game Today!
on Flava Flav"He wears a clock around his neck of course Coughlin would like him." no qb has 15 td’s in the forth quarter in one season …Except eli
no qb has 7 road playoffs wins ….Except Eli
no qb has won 2 sb’s in nyc where pressure kills …Except Eli
Chances of Ham coming back.
MM last 2 seasons: 99 receptions, 1467 yds, 13 TD
Another NFL WR: 103 receptions, 1400 yds, 14 TD
WR #2 is due $15 mil over the next 2 seasons, was thrown out with the trash from his last team, and was blamed for his team quitting. Sorry boys, Ham is a goner.
He says he wants to return so we will see what deals get made
This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.
Our cap situation is fairly constrained so...
1) Jacobs won’t be back unless he basically accepts a minimum amount of $$
2) Mario won’t be back because he’ll get paid far more than he’s worth and we’ll extend and pay Cruuuzzz
3) Aaron Ross will be gone but TT will be back for a Kiwi-like deal
4) Osi will be traded for some combo of 2nds, 3rd, 4ths unless he accepts that his contract has been pretty fair and he’s not a top 5 or top 10 DE
I’m comfortable with all of these happening too
by kcc444 on Feb 9, 2012 10:12 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
I pretty much agree with all of this.
"Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."
LET'S GO RANGERS!!!
yup i agree too.
but some possible additions include:
We say goodbye to Diehl and Kareem depending how FA works out.
Also there is an outside shot of canty being asked to renegotiate with a chance of being cut.
Ugh Rolle too. is he still owed guaranteed money next year? 6.5 mill is disgusting.
Agreed,
Diehl should go he’s just bad he was okay but now he’s just the defenition of bad. Boothe is better and they need to pick up one or two more linemen.
We actually get a lot of freed up space if we let Diehl, Jacobs, Ham, Ross and eventually Osi.
This could eventually give Cruz , Weatherford and a X freeagent a new contract
I probably wouldn’t miss any of theese players (maybe osi and his turnovers.)
i agree about rolle and canty
JR is too smart to let two replacable players hamstring the salary cap and we all know brandon jacobs is done not because of money but his play is way down and as for ham we cant afford him and we have enough pieces to replace him
what to do now football season is done......sigh.smh.wtf
HOLD ON WHATS DAT LIN-MANIA HOLDS THE CITY
jeremy lin will be a kool distraction until the nfl draft
My thoughts
1) Hold on to Osi as long as you can at the current deal. If he really has a problem with it, then look to move him.
2) Cut Jacobs. Too much money, not enough production. As a back of his size, he should have no problems converting those short yardage situation most of the time and he doesn’t. Spend the money elsewhere.
3) Go outside to get a TE. I’m not sure who would be available from a FA standpoint, but signing (or drafting) a TE would probably be the best option.
4) Draft OL. OL play this year was tough to watch and getting younger on the OL would probably help everyone involved. Let McKenzie walk, and put Beatty at LT. Draft a T or G, put Diehl in one spot and let Boothe, Petrus, new draftee and Brewer fight for the other. If a C is available at the proper value, take him as well.
5) Manningham will be gone. Someone will overpay for him, and the Giants will not be that team, considering the years that Cruz and Nicks had. I like Manningham, but he’ll go for the money elsewhere (as he should).
Now, kids, being eaten by a crocodile is just like going to sleep; in giant blender.
I mostly agree
Jacobs is gone. Loved our time with him, but he can be replaced both on and off the field for less money. Period.
Need to add multiple Tight Ends. Hopefully they find a young vet at a low price in FA, which will allow them not to feel like they have to reach in the draft. However, it does look like there is a lot of good talent at the position in the draft this year, so maybe the BPA at one point will be a TE.
I am certain that McKenzie and Deihl have played their last games as Giants. Deihl is due $4M a year for the next two years. His current level of play can be replaced for much less money. I am feeling that OL will be the #1 priority of FA and the Draft.
I agree that Manningham is gone. I hate to say this, given how happy I was to have had him, but there was a reason that the Patriots said, “Cover Nicks and Cruz and make him throw to Manningham and Pascoe.” There are actually quite a few mid-level receivers available in FA this year, so there is always the possibility the Giants could let MM go somewhere overpaid and sign somebody just as good for value without skipping a beat.
Lastly, I can’t imagine any scenario where Osi doesn’t hold out this year, and I can’t imagine any scenario where it makes sense to have him signed up for the $7-$10 million he wants for the next three years when the team has Tuck, Nicks, and a couple other important players needing extensions soon.
So any combination of draft picks that can turn into depth at TE, OL, or RB for Osi will probably be the way the Giants need to go.
manninghams gone
a team like the browns or seahawks or anyone offensively deficient saw that catch in the superbowl and is going to ridiculously overpay
osi might draw some trade interest but i doubt anyone throws a 1st rounder for a guy who has been a tad injury prone and cant exactly play the run well.
the line needs to be revamped though and mckenzie’s prob gone. i expect reese to use at least a 2nd rounder on this unit
and the giants will prob address linebacker in the 1st round of the draft although i dont think they’re gonna take an outside backer and not a middle backer. i think my boy chase blackburn may have just done enough to earn himself a crack at the fulltime starting job next year. kiwi i think is better suited at the line though and if osi goes thats exactly where i expect to see him
"I have smoked weed with alot of UFC champions" - Joe Rogan
"Você ta fudido. Se vai levar muita porrada, ta ligado?" - Anderson Silva
Im still saying reese goes BPA for the draft.
I’d expect reese looks for a FA signing for LB and TE (nothing flashy). just something thats lets reese draft bpa. Might avoid signing a TE if reese loves Dwayne Allen. He should be there for us, cant imagine any team picking 25th or later taking him. anything earlier is a big reach
yea he sure does love going BPA in the 1st
its really gonna depend on who falls to 32 though. any position outside qb is pretty much a possibility.
"I have smoked weed with alot of UFC champions" - Joe Rogan
"Você ta fudido. Se vai levar muita porrada, ta ligado?" - Anderson Silva
eh
athletes are a dicey situation. At some point they have to learn to play football. Not everybody is super man like JPP.
This. He was the best athlete in that draft, by a mile.
But he was far from the best football player. He’s just learning now how to be a good football player. Combined with that freakish athleticism, is what makes him not human.
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
"SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!"
"Eli. Your the money QB start with your leadership skiols which are laclkoing."
by ManningHam and Cheese on Feb 9, 2012 7:51 PM EST up reply actions
I think Chicago would be a good fit for Manningham
Ask and you shall receive!!
nywins42 = nywins46
Who enjoyed a parade like us? NOOOOOOOBODY!
I think SF or Carolina
Chi town but so would NE, STL…..
Frankly he is high priority for any WR needy team.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
Would Belichik
take a guy that beat him?
I got a GIF for that!
Giants by 17 over GB, take it to the bank!
Giants by 10 over SF, take it to the bank! Well, OK, by 3, but we are Super Bowl bound!!!!!!!
Giants will score 30 (correction 21 (damn FG's/failed 2 pt conversion)) or more points, NE 20 or less. Guess who wins? Take it to the bank!
by Fester McDougal on Feb 9, 2012 10:26 AM EST up reply actions
absolutely
Ask and you shall receive!!
nywins42 = nywins46
Who enjoyed a parade like us? NOOOOOOOBODY!
Thats how Welker got there.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
Luckily
Manningham won’t be able to tell him anything about our playbook because he doesn’t grasp it either….lol
HaHa!
All the Giants should play like Mark Bavaro.
TQ, DD and KMac Must Go!
TC, PF, KG, will stay but should go for the long term good.
It is equally worthless when people are always optimistic or always pessimistic. Either way I take their opinion with a pound of salt because I know they only have one setting. I post my own thoughts, not what either side wants to read.
by UnknownJintsFan on Feb 9, 2012 10:54 AM EST up reply actions
Nah, he doesn't need to,
he just steps up and makes big plays.
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
"SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!"
"Eli. Your the money QB start with your leadership skiols which are laclkoing."
by ManningHam and Cheese on Feb 9, 2012 7:52 PM EST up reply actions
i think new england would be a perfect fit
what to do now football season is done......sigh.smh.wtf
HOLD ON WHATS DAT LIN-MANIA HOLDS THE CITY
jeremy lin will be a kool distraction until the nfl draft
Miami, especially if they get Peyton
There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only BLUE WALLS.
The 2012 Mets: Fortune cookie says come back in 2015
I think the Giants can guarantee a Super Bowl repeat if they sign...
Nnamdi, VY, Steve Smith, Jenkins, Babin, and Ronnie Brown. GUARANTEE!!!
Ask and you shall receive!!
nywins42 = nywins46
Who enjoyed a parade like us? NOOOOOOOBODY!
by nywins46 on Feb 9, 2012 10:26 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
And where do we drop him off???...hahaha
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Maybe Ben Patrick unretires
and wants to play for a champion
New York Giants 2011 Super Bowl Champions = FACT
The NFL will now FEAR THE LOWERCASE ny
by The Always Well Dressed... on Feb 9, 2012 10:30 AM EST reply actions
Noted
I got a GIF for that!
Giants by 17 over GB, take it to the bank!
Giants by 10 over SF, take it to the bank! Well, OK, by 3, but we are Super Bowl bound!!!!!!!
Giants will score 30 (correction 21 (damn FG's/failed 2 pt conversion)) or more points, NE 20 or less. Guess who wins? Take it to the bank!
by Fester McDougal on Feb 9, 2012 10:31 AM EST up reply actions
Think he's kicking himself right now?
Yes, I am a Giants fan. Now that we got that out of the way....
IMPEACH DOLAN!!!!
I bELIeve in ELI!!!! - Primetime -
The Big Boy Cometh....Team Jacobs
Marines say Oorah; BBVer's say SUAMBP! say it with me - Suuaahmbp!!!!
by wilddre22 on Feb 9, 2012 7:15 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
They all should be
This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.
by BB1156 on Feb 9, 2012 9:38 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
so nice he said it twice!
Yes, I am a Giants fan. Now that we got that out of the way....
IMPEACH DOLAN!!!!
I bELIeve in ELI!!!! - Primetime -
The Big Boy Cometh....Team Jacobs
Marines say Oorah; BBVer's say SUAMBP! say it with me - Suuaahmbp!!!!
I clicked it once and it was stuck then posted twice
This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.
what TEs are out there that are possible
Fred Davis is a pending FA
as well as Jermicheal Finley..
Finley would be nice.. let’s do it..
word on the street
is that the Skins are going to franchise tag Davis. I’d imagine Finley would get the same treatment, not sure if GB has intentions of doing that, though.
Here‘s a list of possible TE FA’s.
"Oh sir, the Giants of New York took on the Packers of Green Bay. And in the end, the Giants triumphed by kicking an oblong ball made of pigskin through a big "H". It was a most ripping victory."
Finley's a poor blocker, Giants won't go for that type
even if GB let him go, which they won’t.
Now everyone will say Eli is in Bradys class. F*ck me
by PatNation85 on Nov 6, 2011 4:31 PM PST
This.
Marcedes Lewis would be amazing. Great receiver, great blocker that no one gives him credit for.
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
"SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!"
"Eli. Your the money QB start with your leadership skiols which are laclkoing."
by ManningHam and Cheese on Feb 9, 2012 7:54 PM EST up reply actions
Finley has a lot of drops ,not sure we need another one of them.
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
Finally we get to see J Lin!!! Giant LB'zz
And with the 32nd pick in the 2012 NFL Draft, the Giants select:
Dwayne Allen TE Clemson
Bleeding Blue since 1962
I have no idea about the draft until about April
but, since I know you do, I’ll take your word for it. you see him as someone that can contribute right away?
"Oh sir, the Giants of New York took on the Packers of Green Bay. And in the end, the Giants triumphed by kicking an oblong ball made of pigskin through a big "H". It was a most ripping victory."
The way we use TE's?
yes. Went against D’qwan Bowers during practices at Clemson and Bowers said he was constantly learning new ways to block him and that he will be a “Baller”. Good Hands, good speed and a good blocker. Sounds like the prototypical Giants TE.
Bleeding Blue since 1962
I like it
sounds like he’s a quick learner, too. kid could be really good, especially going against Bowers all that time. I know JR’s whole BPA thing, but this is a position of absolute need. I could see getting another FA as a stop-gap, too. you just never know with rookies.
"Oh sir, the Giants of New York took on the Packers of Green Bay. And in the end, the Giants triumphed by kicking an oblong ball made of pigskin through a big "H". It was a most ripping victory."
Though he sounded a little light on the blocking for KG/ TC
Of course they’d clone Bavaro if they could
Eli is our King!
Davis might get franchised
And got suspended for the last four games.
by long time listener on Feb 9, 2012 10:44 AM EST up reply actions
one more toke
and he’s gone for a year. Do we really want to open him up to NYC’s temptations?
then again, Washington’s lockerroom isn’t the greatest (ie: Thomas thanking Shanny for cutting him and saying "I’m in a much better place now)
If they want Peyton, they will need to shed salary
I got a GIF for that!
Giants by 17 over GB, take it to the bank!
Giants by 10 over SF, take it to the bank! Well, OK, by 3, but we are Super Bowl bound!!!!!!!
Giants will score 30 (correction 21 (damn FG's/failed 2 pt conversion)) or more points, NE 20 or less. Guess who wins? Take it to the bank!
by Fester McDougal on Feb 9, 2012 10:46 AM EST up reply actions
Do they honestly think they have a shot at Peyton?
I mean, it’s a dumb enough idea that Snyder would love it, but SERIOUSLY?
by soulless chimney on Feb 9, 2012 10:55 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I think they are in the running with AZ as the frontrunner
I got a GIF for that!
Giants by 17 over GB, take it to the bank!
Giants by 10 over SF, take it to the bank! Well, OK, by 3, but we are Super Bowl bound!!!!!!!
Giants will score 30 (correction 21 (damn FG's/failed 2 pt conversion)) or more points, NE 20 or less. Guess who wins? Take it to the bank!
by Fester McDougal on Feb 9, 2012 10:57 AM EST up reply actions
Arizona?
They just dumped a truck of money at Kolb, and are stuck with him. Arizona can’t afford Peyton.
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
"SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!"
"Eli. Your the money QB start with your leadership skiols which are laclkoing."
by ManningHam and Cheese on Feb 9, 2012 7:55 PM EST up reply actions
Please dont bring Peyton here in Phoenix. i love to wear my Eli jersey
This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.
Peyton has said he will play an "incentive heavy" contract becuase he understands the injury concerns that teams may have.
I can’t see him coming to the NFC East though.
Ask and you shall receive!!
nywins42 = nywins46
Who enjoyed a parade like us? NOOOOOOOBODY!
Certainly not to play with Snyder
or for a control freak like Shanny.
I also don't see him going to an outdoor team where weather will be a factor
by soulless chimney on Feb 9, 2012 11:05 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Miami?
Nothing wrong with the weather there.
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
"SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!"
"Eli. Your the money QB start with your leadership skiols which are laclkoing."
by ManningHam and Cheese on Feb 9, 2012 7:55 PM EST up reply actions
From what I've read, Arizona and Miami are frontrunners
by soulless chimney on Feb 9, 2012 9:56 PM EST up reply actions
i dont want to see him here in AZ
i like to wear my Eli Manning jersey around town.
This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.
It wasn't for a toke
It was for a syringe in the BUTTOX
You down with....... ouch... doesent look like hes getting up
(JPP duh)
Scott Chandler would come back for cheap
im sure Eli can turn him into a 600 yd TE.
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
Finally we get to see J Lin!!! Giant LB'zz
Chandler is identical to Ballard
nice as a last resort, bad if we have to pay him anything.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
Not as much a blocker
Much better receiver
JR will find someone or sign a FA that will hod down the fort
Eli is our King!
Yeah and i think they already have their short list
This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.
Grass is always greener or no loyalty??
I will be sad to see Mario go! I hope someone tells him the grass is not always greener, just ask Smith and Boss! Incidently, I see mock drafts but I never see the compensation that will be due for the loss of these players. Between our regular picks and these comp. picks we should be able to reload the OL, get a really good LB (the class seems strong this year), and a TE.
by Exiled in Missouri on Feb 9, 2012 10:39 AM EST reply actions
Boss and Smith
Reese tried to low ball those guys and lost. Manningham is a different topic. He isn’t coming off of an injury. His stock will never be higher and I have no problem with a guy getting what he can get.
Dont kill me for this
But for 1 season to replace MM, what about #17? Think he would be very motivated.
DavebrownNOT
Plaxico? He has stated that he wants to go to Philly.
Having another ring would impair his trigger finger I guess.
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 9, 2012 2:52 PM EST up reply actions
Zing
He’s the gift that keeps on giving
Blue is the color of melancholy and honesty
Green is the color of inexperience, envy and nausea.
What a maroon
Who says Philthy even wants his non productive ass
Why is Tom Quinn still here? I loves me some Coach Clawfin.
HAM said he wants to be back here.
He’s going to give the Giants first crack at resigning him, and imo, as long as they don’t low ball him, he’ll take A LITTLE less money to stay here. They low ball him though, he’s a goner.
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
"SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!"
"Eli. Your the money QB start with your leadership skiols which are laclkoing."
by ManningHam and Cheese on Feb 9, 2012 7:57 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah and hopefully it turns out to be ok
This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.
Just found this...
Follow the link with possible good news regarding Thomas…
http://network.yardbarker.com/nfl/article_external/nfl_free_agency_new_york_giants_cb_terrell_thomas_wants_to_return/9831145
by Exiled in Missouri on Feb 9, 2012 10:46 AM EST reply actions
hopefully he didnt lose a step
if we had him this year healthy we would have been better then 9-7. hes an outstanding player
"I have smoked weed with alot of UFC champions" - Joe Rogan
"Você ta fudido. Se vai levar muita porrada, ta ligado?" - Anderson Silva
We probably lose Ross if we keep TT
So we better be sure he can play.
Blue is the color of melancholy and honesty
Green is the color of inexperience, envy and nausea.
It's hard to say after injuries so yes it is tricky.
This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.
I love how the refs on Sound FX were telling each other "don't count the Patriots out of this one"
“Oh, they’ll be back”…
It’s troubling that they are commenting on the game as a whole and not just acting as their jobs require.
Ask and you shall receive!!
nywins42 = nywins46
Who enjoyed a parade like us? NOOOOOOOBODY!
And they admitted the call on Baas was wrong
and when they went and asked Wilfork, he told them they made a bad call, he was not held LOL
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
it was on Boothe
I got banned from Jests Blog for saying Chad Henne has better stats than Mark Sanchez. And they think they're the big brothers in this town? LMAO try again little sisters!
Let's Go Giants!!!!
your right
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
wow
do your damn job dumbasses
New York Giants 2011 Super Bowl Champions = FACT
The NFL will now FEAR THE LOWERCASE ny
by The Always Well Dressed... on Feb 9, 2012 11:05 AM EST up reply actions
hey
did u also hear Wilfork tell the ref he blew the holding call against boothe that cost us the 1st down?
by leviathen2003 on Feb 9, 2012 11:14 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
Yes...The guy was like "Why didn't you tell me it was the wrong call?"
He should never be allowed to call a game again.
Ask and you shall receive!!
nywins42 = nywins46
Who enjoyed a parade like us? NOOOOOOOBODY!
Best part of that was Brady on the HAM catch,
“He caught it.” I also now like Vince Wilfork, he is the only Pat I like. Just a fun guy, was the only guy that whole game enjoying himself and having fun, which is what it’s all about. And he admitted he wasn’t held, and it was a bad call. Kudos to him for that.
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
"SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!"
"Eli. Your the money QB start with your leadership skiols which are laclkoing."
by ManningHam and Cheese on Feb 9, 2012 8:00 PM EST up reply actions
I heard Mike Francesca say that Mario
wants to get out of cold weather environments after playing in Michigan and NY most of his life. I don’t know how true this is but since the Sports Pope of NY said it…. its FACT.
New York Giants 2011 Super Bowl Champions = FACT
The NFL will now FEAR THE LOWERCASE ny
by The Always Well Dressed... on Feb 9, 2012 11:12 AM EST reply actions
why can't he just take the 2.3 seconds to say "IMO" first?
listening to him is an effort sometimes.
Fire Fewell
The Pope "knows"
I pun
I got a GIF for that!
Giants by 17 over GB, take it to the bank!
Giants by 10 over SF, take it to the bank! Well, OK, by 3, but we are Super Bowl bound!!!!!!!
Giants will score 30 (correction 21 (damn FG's/failed 2 pt conversion)) or more points, NE 20 or less. Guess who wins? Take it to the bank!
by Fester McDougal on Feb 9, 2012 11:15 AM EST up reply actions
arguing with him is like arguing with a brink
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 9, 2012 11:17 AM EST up reply actions
*brick
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 9, 2012 11:17 AM EST up reply actions
I would have gone with a brain damaged monkey
But, brick works too.
Husker/Giants/Mets fan living behind enemy lines.
hes busy sucking bill parcels cock right now
what to do now football season is done......sigh.smh.wtf
HOLD ON WHATS DAT LIN-MANIA HOLDS THE CITY
jeremy lin will be a kool distraction until the nfl draft
Whoa fella
Now I’m smashing my head against a wall
Eli is our King!
ANDY PETTITE IS A STARTING PICTCHA!!!!!!!!
New York Giants 2011 Super Bowl Champions = FACT
The NFL will now FEAR THE LOWERCASE ny
by The Always Well Dressed... on Feb 9, 2012 11:23 AM EST up reply actions
He's too busy saying "wait a minute"
Youtube it.
Yes, I am a Giants fan. Now that we got that out of the way....
IMPEACH DOLAN!!!!
I bELIeve in ELI!!!! - Primetime -
The Big Boy Cometh....Team Jacobs
Marines say Oorah; BBVer's say SUAMBP! say it with me - Suuaahmbp!!!!
by wilddre22 on Feb 9, 2012 7:20 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
what "cold weather"?
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
Finally we get to see J Lin!!! Giant LB'zz
Did it come out as a blockquote under his face on YES?
Or does his word trump even blockquotes?
Yes, I am a Giants fan. Now that we got that out of the way....
IMPEACH DOLAN!!!!
I bELIeve in ELI!!!! - Primetime -
The Big Boy Cometh....Team Jacobs
Marines say Oorah; BBVer's say SUAMBP! say it with me - Suuaahmbp!!!!
by wilddre22 on Feb 9, 2012 7:19 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
He made that up.
He’s stirring the pot. HAM said after the SB, he wants to stay here.
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
"SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!"
"Eli. Your the money QB start with your leadership skiols which are laclkoing."
by ManningHam and Cheese on Feb 9, 2012 8:01 PM EST up reply actions
yeah that was an interesting statement.
Maybe he knows that he needs Eli.
This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.
Anything new on Weatherford?
I heard they were working on a deal before the Super Bowl. Really want him back for his punting and also entertainment purposes
New York Giants 2011 Super Bowl Champions = FACT
The NFL will now FEAR THE LOWERCASE ny
by The Always Well Dressed... on Feb 9, 2012 11:21 AM EST reply actions
He's said he wants to be back
I assume they’re back to working on the deal and we’ll get something more concrete soon.
by soulless chimney on Feb 9, 2012 12:02 PM EST up reply actions
he is signed
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
Finally we get to see J Lin!!! Giant LB'zz
Link??
I got a GIF for that!
Giants by 17 over GB, take it to the bank!
Giants by 10 over SF, take it to the bank! Well, OK, by 3, but we are Super Bowl bound!!!!!!!
Giants will score 30 (correction 21 (damn FG's/failed 2 pt conversion)) or more points, NE 20 or less. Guess who wins? Take it to the bank!
by Fester McDougal on Feb 9, 2012 12:30 PM EST up reply actions
Zelda??
New York Giants 2011 Super Bowl Champions = FACT
The NFL will now FEAR THE LOWERCASE ny
by The Always Well Dressed... on Feb 9, 2012 12:33 PM EST up reply actions
Ganon??
(I got it now)
"Oh sir, the Giants of New York took on the Packers of Green Bay. And in the end, the Giants triumphed by kicking an oblong ball made of pigskin through a big "H". It was a most ripping victory."
Sheik??
New York Giants 2011 Super Bowl Champions = FACT
The NFL will now FEAR THE LOWERCASE ny
by The Always Well Dressed... on Feb 9, 2012 12:51 PM EST up reply actions
Agahnim??
"Oh sir, the Giants of New York took on the Packers of Green Bay. And in the end, the Giants triumphed by kicking an oblong ball made of pigskin through a big "H". It was a most ripping victory."
Navi??
New York Giants 2011 Super Bowl Champions = FACT
The NFL will now FEAR THE LOWERCASE ny
by The Always Well Dressed... on Feb 9, 2012 12:59 PM EST up reply actions
Tingle??
"Oh sir, the Giants of New York took on the Packers of Green Bay. And in the end, the Giants triumphed by kicking an oblong ball made of pigskin through a big "H". It was a most ripping victory."
NOTED!
I got a GIF for that!
Giants by 17 over GB, take it to the bank!
Giants by 10 over SF, take it to the bank! Well, OK, by 3, but we are Super Bowl bound!!!!!!!
Giants will score 30 (correction 21 (damn FG's/failed 2 pt conversion)) or more points, NE 20 or less. Guess who wins? Take it to the bank!
by Fester McDougal on Feb 9, 2012 2:08 PM EST up reply actions
bob popa stated in a interveiw that he was but i see thats not the case
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
Finally we get to see J Lin!!! Giant LB'zz
I'd think Manningham is probably least likely to be back
I’m sure he’d like to stay but there is no way the Giants will be able to match what he’ll be offered. He’s a #3 option in the Giants offense but he’s good enough to be higher than that somewhere else. Good for him, he earned whats coming.
If they can get a 2 for Osi, I think its time to jump on that offer. They’re not going to pay him anywhere near what he wants to be the 3rd best DE on the team, nor should they. Who knows what JR could turn a #2 into? Move Kiwi back to DE to be the #3 rotating DE, Goff should be cheap to resign and suddenly there are plenty of LBs.
You guys are hilarious with Jacobs. Over the past 2 years he’s been the most productive and least injured back on the team. His stat line this year is near identical to Bradshaw’s so I’m not getting the “lack of production” thing. Who is going to play when Bradshaw gets run into the ground by the coaching staff and breaks his feet again? Personally I hope they rework his deal and keep them both. His age probably dictates that he wouldn’t get 4+ million on the market. That combined with the fact that I doubt he really wants to leave the Giants (maybe make one more run at a title and retire?), and it seems like it’d be pretty easy to do. Split the carries better so they can use Bradshaw as their 3rd down back instead of DJ Ware, since Bradshaw fits that role so well.
No matter what they decide to do, they ought to be starting next year in better shape than they were at any point this year. Not a bad time to be a fan.
by Oppenheimer919 on Feb 9, 2012 11:21 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Jacobs
Everything you just said about Jacobs I agree with 100%, I just don’t get it.
by Midnight Blue on Feb 9, 2012 11:43 AM EST up reply actions
Jacobs probably deserves to be back
but its his contract and also the style the Giants seem to want to go to. He even said that the final drive on the SB he ’didn’t know what Eli was like in the huddle, cuz the style of ball they were playing wasn’t him’.
If they brought him back I wouldn’t be surprised. But also if they went in another direction I wouldn’t be surprised either.
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Tiki
I’d like to get another Tiki-type back – a slasher who can catch the ball out of the backfield and run screens.
by Pink Flamingo on Feb 9, 2012 12:17 PM EST up reply actions
Hopefully D Scott is that guy
"Oh sir, the Giants of New York took on the Packers of Green Bay. And in the end, the Giants triumphed by kicking an oblong ball made of pigskin through a big "H". It was a most ripping victory."
Agree on Ham
I think Jacobs’ style of play — when he runs straight up, when he tries to go lateral instead of smashing himself a hole to get the first down, etc — makes him seem less reliable than Bradshaw. If you put Bradshaw in, unless he’s stuffed in the backfield, he usually picks something up.
by soulless chimney on Feb 9, 2012 12:06 PM EST up reply actions
I’d love to see us keep Osi. I think we will unless we can get a first round pick.
Jacobs is probably gone unless he re-works the heck out of his contract.
Manningham is gone. Someone is going to blow him away with a massive deal, and he’ll have no choice but to take it.
I think Mitch Petrus is ready to start, and I’m excited to see him do so.
Let’s sign a solid TE, draft a great OL and keep stockpiling DL
Profit.
It was a particularly small egg...thats why I asked.
by thenightstallion on Feb 9, 2012 11:22 AM EST reply actions
Lots of LB help early
I am still not sold on the young LBs, draft the kid from NC State if you want the TE from Georgia. Then OL afterwards 3rd, etc.
by Exiled in Missouri on Feb 9, 2012 2:08 PM EST up reply actions
Our LBs will be fine but we do need to add some depth,
This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.
Predictions
1. Brandon Jacobs will be able to get more money somewhere else than the Giants are willing to pay him
2. Mario Manningham will be offered more money somewhere else than the Giants are able to pay him
3. Osi will be back, because no one will be willing to pay for a pass rusher who is consistently hurt 50% of the year
4. McKenzie will unfortunately be gone, most likely retired
5. The Giants will attempt to solve the Wide Receiver and Running Back issues in the draft
6. The Giants will attempt to solve the Tight End and Offensive Line issues through free agency
Just another Giants Fan in Chicago
by Dan from Chicago on Feb 9, 2012 11:24 AM EST reply actions
we have WR and RB issues?
I got banned from Jests Blog for saying Chad Henne has better stats than Mark Sanchez. And they think they're the big brothers in this town? LMAO try again little sisters!
Let's Go Giants!!!!
If his prediction comes true. We’d lose Mario and Jacobs, so then we would have potential WR/RB issues.
Nah
I think both are definitely gone. But I think Barden and JJ12 step up next year. And I’m holding out hope that we get P. Hillis in FA. He’d be a beast for us.
I got banned from Jests Blog for saying Chad Henne has better stats than Mark Sanchez. And they think they're the big brothers in this town? LMAO try again little sisters!
Let's Go Giants!!!!
more than Jacobs? I see them making the same thing
I got banned from Jests Blog for saying Chad Henne has better stats than Mark Sanchez. And they think they're the big brothers in this town? LMAO try again little sisters!
Let's Go Giants!!!!
Prediction 7. Giants win Back2Back superbowl.
This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.
Hillis? Why?
Are they buying another exercise bike for the sideline?
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Peyton Hillis sucks ass.
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hillis seems like a perfect fit
what to do now football season is done......sigh.smh.wtf
HOLD ON WHATS DAT LIN-MANIA HOLDS THE CITY
jeremy lin will be a kool distraction until the nfl draft
Hey Dan
Jacobs will get much less elsewhere worry about Forte, LOL!
Ricky Williams retired....Cue up Bob Marley,
"Excuse me while I light my spliff"...
I agree...
Jacob’s best offer will be from the Giants…if they make him an offer at all.
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Here is what I got
1. I love Osi. I am not reasonable when it comes to him. Find a way to pay the guy and keep him. 3 year contract, tons of incentives. Decent money and move on.
2. The RB position is a mess. Jacobs, sadly, is getting old and the Giants need to move on. Bradshaw is chronically injured and the Giants need somebody that can take the bulk of the carries. They need a young guy drafted in the first 3 rounds, that can carry the ball 200 times with Bradshaw getting 150-200 carries this year.
3. TE should be a priority since the Giants don’t run 4 WR sets often. The TE is always on the field and the Giants should sign or draft top shelf talent.
4. The offensive line is old and needs work. Some of the young guys on the team now look ok, but not great. If they were great they would have played more this season. They need to step up big time.
5. Manningham will not be back. He is to good to be the 3rd WR for a team that loves traditional offensive sets.
JR will let Ham go
and have competition for the 3rd WR spot a la Victor Cruz. I really hope Barden makes leaps and bounds this offseason cuz its really his for the taking and he’d be our legitimate #2 Red Zone target. That said itll be a competition between Barden, JJ12, Hixon (if he re-signs), Thomas, and (insert undrafted rookie stud here).
Ham Will Be Back
twice a year in a Redskin uniform
by Cruz Control on Feb 9, 2012 11:37 AM EST up reply actions
BINGO
Blue is the color of melancholy and honesty
Green is the color of inexperience, envy and nausea.
that's what I was thinking, too
not hoping, though.
"Oh sir, the Giants of New York took on the Packers of Green Bay. And in the end, the Giants triumphed by kicking an oblong ball made of pigskin through a big "H". It was a most ripping victory."
No offense, but go to hell. Do not pass go, and do not collect $200.
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by ManningHam and Cheese on Feb 9, 2012 8:29 PM EST up reply actions
LBZZZ
I am wondering why people still want to draft LB’s
when you know
1. JR drafts based on BPA so you never know wat u gonna get.
2. We have core of decent LBz – improved Jwill, Boley, Kiwi, Herz, Jones, Chase, Spencer and we have Sintim, Goff coming back.
Yes we can definetly have an upgrade but not a high priority.
if by decent you mean
bottom half of NFL then yes you are right. No need to make that better.
YES our problems are over!!!
Goff will be low balled by JR and I would not be surprised if he leaves like Smith and Boss.
Goff won't have any offers from other teams
I got banned from Jests Blog for saying Chad Henne has better stats than Mark Sanchez. And they think they're the big brothers in this town? LMAO try again little sisters!
Let's Go Giants!!!!
Again...
will not be that upset if Goff leaves. I do think that if the right LB is there in the 1st or 2nd round, JR should pull the trigger.
Husker/Giants/Mets fan living behind enemy lines.
I don't know why ppl act like Goff was some sort of Patrick Willis for us
Goff was only a serviceable MLB who played very smart. I don’t remember him making any top shelf impact plays on defense besides being pretty good against the run. Let’s not act like he was our second coming of Lawrence Taylor
by PaulieTheDon1 on Feb 9, 2012 11:55 AM EST up reply actions
No but he was the signal caller
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I don't get why people act like we need a Patrick Willis
Chase Blackburn looked like a revelation at the position. We ALL know who the hell Chase Blackburn is don’t we. He’s been here forever.
Goff is better then Blackburn. So take what Blackburn did, which was excellent, and put Goff in there. Position solidified, no need to worry about the LBOBO spot.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
Chase is doing great for us. Our defense was an instant upgrade as soon as we re-signed him.
This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.
Nobody is claiming he is the second coming of LT.
He knows the defense
He was one of the top run stopping LB.
Goff’s absence was main reason for most of miscommunications
He showed improved coverage abilities in preseason.
he was a good enough MLB who was trusted by JR,TC,PF do you want anything more than that.
a 3rd superbowl?)
i got a ring! he got a ring !
Eli Manning Best Qb in the Game Today!
on Flava Flav"He wears a clock around his neck of course Coughlin would like him." no qb has 15 td’s in the forth quarter in one season …Except eli
no qb has 7 road playoffs wins ….Except Eli
no qb has won 2 sb’s in nyc where pressure kills …Except Eli
Yes i want to see a Back2Back now that we are half way there
This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.
did u watch the super bowl ???
or the playoff run???
we have good enough LBZ….we won the freaking super bowl
you cant have mathews/willis/urlacher in one team….
I accept we can have an upgrade always but my point is its not an pressing need as most of us here think.
Matthews didn't even show up for the most part this season
I agree though…our young LBs will only be better next year.
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He was hurting as well
keep that in mind, lingering issue.
Ricky Williams retired....Cue up Bob Marley,
"Excuse me while I light my spliff"...
I think that is ultimately why he "struggled" (if you can call it that)
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Agreed...
Never have lived through the Carson, LT era…when we ate TEs, RBs, and QBs for lunch. Yes, I know JPP eats QBs for breakfast, etc., but he went out on pass coverage in the Super Bowl (Why??), Brady had all the time in the world, and eventually the pass went to his area. Perhaps the young LBs will get better, but bring in an LB early (2nd round, the kid from NC State), and see what happens!
by Exiled in Missouri on Feb 9, 2012 2:15 PM EST up reply actions
Ate TEs, RBs, QBs and WRs for breakfast, lunch, dinner, supper, meals, dessert etc etc.
This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.
I like the potential of our LBs
if we get Goff back, we got LBs who can play the run, pass, and rush the passer. Unfortunately, most of them can’t really do all three.
I got faith that we have yet to see the best from Jwill
Boley Williams and Goff are a solid trio
this is a decent year for LBeebles, so if someone like Zach Brown or Luke Kuechly falls to the 32nd pick, why not. But other then that, like every single year, drafting an El Boober isn’t going to put us over the top.
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exactly my point
unless JR thinks he is getting a BPA player he is not drafting any one in earlier rounds.
and I definetly dont think he is looking out for some high priced FA LB.
El Boober haha
You just don’t run out of these, do you
by Oppenheimer919 on Feb 9, 2012 1:58 PM EST up reply actions
Who plays strong in that scenario?
And what do we do with kiwi?
Yes, I am a Giants fan. Now that we got that out of the way....
IMPEACH DOLAN!!!!
I bELIeve in ELI!!!! - Primetime -
The Big Boy Cometh....Team Jacobs
Marines say Oorah; BBVer's say SUAMBP! say it with me - Suuaahmbp!!!!
by wilddre22 on Feb 9, 2012 7:25 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
yeah, i think FA should probably be more of the discussion around here as opposed to Draft
Giants have a lot of FAs, some will be back some won’t, but they can also go out and sign some guys.
I remember 2 years ago i was jumping up and down for Earl Thomas b/c the Giants Safeties sucked, but they signed Rolle so the biggest need kinda just became not the biggest need anymore.
I think that’s what will happen w/ the TE position as well.
and I don’t really think you can address WR, RB, or even CB in the Draft….until FA comes and goes.
Fire Fewell
Jacobs
I’ve never been shy of how much I like Jacobs but I still think this needs to be said. Everyone talks about how terrible Jacobs was this year stats wise, but he had just about the same yards per carry as AB did in regular season, actually had more than AB did in post season, had more yards per catch that AB did this season, and proved that he can be a beast in run blocking too (and made less money than AB while doin so). Most importantly, I think Jacobs adds more than just his play to this team. He’s the guy who gets the players pumped up on offense (and sometimes on defense I’m convinced). The problem this year was not Jacobs or AB, it was the line, and the only explanation I can come up with for people blaming Jacobs and not AB is just that they do not like Jacobs.
Side note, I do not want to dump AB either, I think having 2 good RBs is more important than people want to admit.
by Midnight Blue on Feb 9, 2012 11:40 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
I agree 100%
amazing to me how people put a positive spin on AB’s year and blame Jacobs when their #’s basically mirrored each other.
Fire Fewell
It is confusing
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AB is younger so that is why he is better to keep. BJ is 30 and history shows RBs of that age are not worth 4mil+.
not sure if AB's career will be any longer though
How many more years will bradshaw play in the NFL? How many foot surgeries has he had now? I wouldn’t be surprised if he had to retire in 2 years.
Go Giants!
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Ab should be good for 2 to 3 years. Barring serious injury of course.
This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.
This discussion game is much more fun
When it starts at the last possible moment. I don’t even mind discussing this hypothetical stuff, since we won the SuperBowl, and I hate playing the What if game.
:)
before we know it, the Combine's going to happen
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by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 9, 2012 12:16 PM EST up reply actions
Yes then free agents then draft then OTAs then training camp then preseason then regular season then playoffs then we win our Back2Back superbowl. That's it,
This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.
here's how we solver our problems
1. Pick up P. Hillis in FA
2. Trade for T. Gonzalez to hold down the TE position for us for a year
3. Draft Cordy Glenn to play LG
4. Start James Brewer at RT
N.O. here we come
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I'd say only Porky Glenn is the only one that has a shot of happening
Hillis blows, he’s a one year wonder and a panzy, his contract holdup stuff makes anything Osi’s ever done make him seem like a mute.
Gonzalez would be nice, but I doubt we’re giving up a pick.
And I highly doubt we’re starting Brewer at RT. He looked terrible in the preseason and wasn’t even allowed on the FG team he was so bad. That doesn’t mean he’s a bust but it means he’s probably at least 2013 before he’s a thought to start. Look for a veteran, either FA or Diehl ,or maybe someone like Porky Glenn, who’s probably better off at RT anyway.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
Cordy Glenn will go early
But you never know…
by Exiled in Missouri on Feb 9, 2012 2:18 PM EST up reply actions
First two are awful choices.
Gonzalez is going to want a ton of money, no matter what. And he deserves it. Hillis is Jacobs, except hurt more, and will want more money cuz he was the starter and got the bulk of the carries. Why pay Hillis more money for Jacobs production? Just keep Jacobs and try to rework his deal to a more reasonable amount. If we don’t get Lewis as a FA TE, then our starting TE will most likely be coming from the draft.
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by ManningHam and Cheese on Feb 9, 2012 8:35 PM EST up reply actions
i think the starting te is
already on the roster possibly one of the reserves we just signed ….i forget his name
i got a ring! he got a ring !
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on Flava Flav"He wears a clock around his neck of course Coughlin would like him." no qb has 15 td’s in the forth quarter in one season …Except eli
no qb has 7 road playoffs wins ….Except Eli
no qb has won 2 sb’s in nyc where pressure kills …Except Eli
correct sir
i got a ring! he got a ring !
Eli Manning Best Qb in the Game Today!
on Flava Flav"He wears a clock around his neck of course Coughlin would like him." no qb has 15 td’s in the forth quarter in one season …Except eli
no qb has 7 road playoffs wins ….Except Eli
no qb has won 2 sb’s in nyc where pressure kills …Except Eli
TE
After the SB injuries TE has become a top priority. Too bad for Ballard….as for Beckum, he did nothing in 3 years (for whatever reason) and can’t stay on the field.
you know what i found rather interesting
Barden had more receptions this season than Beckum
and Barden was PUP’d
Fire Fewell
A lot of mock drafts this week have us going TE in rd 1
Do not know much about the names thrown out: dudes from Clemson, Georgia, and Stanford.
Husker/Giants/Mets fan living behind enemy lines.
Dude from Clemson, Dwayne Allen is a beast
dude from Georgia is 6"1 230lbs, makes no sense in a Giants uniform. Fleener’s the dude from Stanford, I think he’s too slow but we’ll see on that one.
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I knew I could count on you
Unless the guys come from Big 10 or 12, I do not know much about them.
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our last two TEs...
Kevin Boss and Jake Ballard! Why in the world would TE be a priority. Obviously Eli is showing he can make mediocre TEs look good.
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TE's not a priority in the defensive end or DB sense
but we’re not going into the year with Bear Pascoe as the only one. Its a need as in they need to acquire someone somehow.
Hell I thought they needed a TE when Ballard and Beckum were 100%.
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oh yeah, definitely agree
just don’t agree with drafting one in the first round
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Why?
Especially if TE is BPA. From the sound of it, there are some solid TEs who would be a good fit for us with #32 pick.
Husker/Giants/Mets fan living behind enemy lines.
This.
We did this with Kenny Phillips, it was our biggest need, and he was BPA, and we did it with Nicks, we needed a WR more than anything that year, and we took BPA as well as biggest need. If Allen if there, I’d be surprised if we passed on him. He’d be BPA, and fill one of the biggest needs.
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by ManningHam and Cheese on Feb 9, 2012 8:39 PM EST up reply actions
gronkowski, 2nd round...Jimmy Graham, 3rd round.
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Gronkowski was a top 15 pick caliber player
his back and neck scared teams off. Jimmy Graham never played football at Miami.
This season there’s really no one out there like that. Dwayne Allen is a football playe, a first round caliber player and no doubt would be the BPA at 32.
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Lolwut
We have no TE’s that can block and now our two TE’s have ACL injuries. In a league with Gronk, Hernandez, Graham and Finley we’re just gonna ignore a good TE like Allen because we had Ballard and Boss? What?
World Series attitude, champagne bottle life, nothing every changes so tonight is like tomorrow night.
TE
The reason the Giants might give more value to the TE position when ranking BPA in the draft is because the current state of affairs in the NFL has elevated the importance of the TE.
With the rules shifts towards the passing game, more teams are playing defenses that put extra defensive backs on the field. By being able to field a TE who is big, strong and fast, it creates very big match-up problems for those defenses.
Look at it this way, the Patriots very smartly set up their defense to make it hard for Eli to find either Nicks or Cruz running with a lot of space. Just imagine what would have happened if the Giants were running a big, skilled tight end out there instead of Pascoe. SOMEBODY was going to be open, whether it was the TE or Nicks or Cruz.
Having said all that, I think that all that means is that the Giants will still take the BPA in the draft, but that TE is going to get a bump in the “position” rankings. It still won’t be +100 for Defensive Line on the Giants draft board, but maybe it will be up from -20 to 0 or something.
agreed. positional value for the position has probably risen across the board
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by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 9, 2012 4:25 PM EST up reply actions
Where the hell is Tito?
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Tito said he is OK and will be back
I emailed him a while ago.
I cannot believe that he missed the ELITE crowning of Eli.
All the Giants should play like Mark Bavaro.
TQ, DD and KMac Must Go!
TC, PF, KG, will stay but should go for the long term good.
It is equally worthless when people are always optimistic or always pessimistic. Either way I take their opinion with a pound of salt because I know they only have one setting. I post my own thoughts, not what either side wants to read.
by UnknownJintsFan on Feb 9, 2012 12:12 PM EST up reply actions
Seems he got some new job and he is busy.
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REC"D!
I got a GIF for that!
Giants by 17 over GB, take it to the bank!
Giants by 10 over SF, take it to the bank! Well, OK, by 3, but we are Super Bowl bound!!!!!!!
Giants will score 30 (correction 21 (damn FG's/failed 2 pt conversion)) or more points, NE 20 or less. Guess who wins? Take it to the bank!
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NICEEEEEE
New York Giants 2011 Super Bowl Champions = FACT
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Feb 9, 2012 11:56 AM EST up reply actions
lmao........u guys r great
what to do now football season is done......sigh.smh.wtf
HOLD ON WHATS DAT LIN-MANIA HOLDS THE CITY
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Oline, Osi
I think the Oline should go Beatty, Petrus, Booth, Snee, Brewer let Deihl and Baas go unles they want to be back ups
Osi should be traded
TE=draft and Ballard PUP/IR
Mario is gonna get payed just not by us
Baas is starting. Book it.
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well duh
he’s overpaid, he has to earn some of it.
World Series attitude, champagne bottle life, nothing every changes so tonight is like tomorrow night.
He was hurt most of the time but he has done well overall
This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.
Bass was brought in to start, and payed to start.
Boothe is the perfect 6th lineman, not starter. Brewer isn’t ready, so unless they bring back Deihl at RT, they will most likely bring in a veteran RT to hold down the spot till Brewer is ready, as well as draft a RT in the mid rounds who can possibly push for the spot. To me LG is the tough spot to nail down what they’ll do. I’m not convinced that Petrus is read to be a 16 game starter, and I like him, just not sure. I could see us signing a RT is FA, maybe a guard, as well as drafting a guard and RT in the draft.
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by ManningHam and Cheese on Feb 9, 2012 8:43 PM EST up reply actions
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by nywins46 on Feb 9, 2012 11:54 AM EST reply actions 3 recs
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Feb 9, 2012 11:55 AM EST up reply actions
I want to believe that he can do both of those things at the same time
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Niceeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Here's the other:
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I love this one
New York Giants 2011 Super Bowl Champions = FACT
The NFL will now FEAR THE LOWERCASE ny
by The Always Well Dressed... on Feb 9, 2012 12:18 PM EST up reply actions
That photo's the background on my computer
by soulless chimney on Feb 9, 2012 12:21 PM EST up reply actions
Sorry Aqua
New York Giants 2011 Super Bowl Champions = FACT
The NFL will now FEAR THE LOWERCASE ny
by The Always Well Dressed... on Feb 9, 2012 12:52 PM EST up reply actions
It's going to be strange seeing Peyton in another uniform
Kinda like you didn’t really believe it was Montana in that all white Chiefs road uni.
Blue is the color of melancholy and honesty
Green is the color of inexperience, envy and nausea.
Yeah Montana die not look right in KC colors
This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.
my thoughts
1. ham was great, showed up in quite a few 4Q clutch situations, including TDs, but he suffered from too many dropsies during the season. Also, he was#3, which meant teams were trying to take away Nicks, Cruz & let ham beat them…so many single coverage situations. so, while he has been wonderful for NYG…..if he wants too much money, let him go.
2. RB is a key priority (draft, or FA)…KG doesnt do too much with TE setups, but RB is key for our schemes (running, blocking & recieveing out of backfield). Even if Jacobs accepts rookie minimum, he should not be brought bac….bcos he eats up a roster spot. How many times have Giant fans felt that 3rd & 10 is no problem, but 3rd & inches, or 3rd is 1 is a hold your breath moment. Jacobs has lost it…..Bradshaw, injured & does not seem to be the primary load carrier. And we have seen enough of Ware. Need a new bull
3. If Osi trade gets 2nd round or better…go for it, otherwise make him play out his last year, and collect 3rd rounder next year
4. Sign TT, Goff, Weatherford
5. O-line : address in draft, FA (Petrus, Brewer may need more brewing, dont appear to be answer to Karim-Diehl problems)
6. Linebacker wouldd be nice in draft, but we will probably end up drafting more DEs
7. Yeah, & decent TE would be nice, Eli will get him the ball
I like our current players
Ross should relize he’s no great talent and sign to a lesser contract. Tt is going to be a force , find any way to resign him. Choose between goff and Blackburn so we can keep my namesake and is it possible to convert barden to tight end? He could do t becks job just better. Neither are great blockers.
by Gregjonesformvp on Feb 9, 2012 12:19 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Ross is a great talent
Forgive me, but I defend Ross any chance I get. A Ross can straight out ball.. He is a lock down corner, drafted as a lock down corner and is forced to play Zone. Throw in injuries that kept him off the field for 1 and a half years.. If Ross signs somewhere else, either he is leaving for money we cant offer him, or JR makes is first big FA mistake.
Regardless of what happens, No playoffs, playoffs, no superblow, superblow.... The 2011/2012 is one of my favorite Giants Teams of all time.
Thank you sir. I made myself look like a ass. You are right he is a great talent. That wasn’t the word that I should have used. He has all the tools but not enough confidence in my opinion, which doesn’t mean anything. To me he hasn’t been the same since 2008 browns game when he got toasted by sir drops a lot.
by Gregjonesformvp on Feb 9, 2012 4:05 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Ham had 3 drops,
Nicks and Cruz both had 7, and Ballard had 5. What dropsies?
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
"SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!"
"Eli. Your the money QB start with your leadership skiols which are laclkoing."
by ManningHam and Cheese on Feb 9, 2012 8:50 PM EST up reply actions
How many balls were thrown Hams way v. Nicks and Cruz?
And nobody is trying to compare Ballard to Ham. :D
JPP + Cruz + Nicks + Eli
Yea, I'm excited about the next 10 years.
A surgeon who can cut out the part of your brain that made you post this.
Bleeding Blue since 1962
by sunlion333 on Feb 9, 2012 12:16 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
well, the only idiotic part is Cruz
I doubt you would get anything more then a 6 or 7 for jacobs and maybe a 3 for Osi
NE has 2 late #1s
I wouldn’t be surprised if they gave one for Osi
I got banned from Jests Blog for saying Chad Henne has better stats than Mark Sanchez. And they think they're the big brothers in this town? LMAO try again little sisters!
Let's Go Giants!!!!
I would
Blue is the color of melancholy and honesty
Green is the color of inexperience, envy and nausea.
Yeah Osi to a 3-4 team
would work wonders. And NE never gives up their firsts unless they get a first and second in return. The odds of this happening are the same as the Eagles super bowl wins.
World Series attitude, champagne bottle life, nothing every changes so tonight is like tomorrow night.
NE is a 3-4 again?
I thought they did both.
I got banned from Jests Blog for saying Chad Henne has better stats than Mark Sanchez. And they think they're the big brothers in this town? LMAO try again little sisters!
Let's Go Giants!!!!
That's an instant classic
Ask and you shall receive!!
nywins42 = nywins46
Who enjoyed a parade like us? NOOOOOOOBODY!
Hahahahahahah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Line of the day!!
Why is Tom Quinn still here? I loves me some Coach Clawfin.
Excellent Question
Wow, totally forgot we will get extra picks. I’d think at least a 3rd for Bro.
by Pink Flamingo on Feb 9, 2012 12:19 PM EST up reply actions
and boss.
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 9, 2012 12:24 PM EST up reply actions
ct17 did a wonderful feature over at MockingtheDraft about compensatory picks.
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 9, 2012 12:26 PM EST up reply actions
Link Please
I got banned from Jests Blog for saying Chad Henne has better stats than Mark Sanchez. And they think they're the big brothers in this town? LMAO try again little sisters!
Let's Go Giants!!!!
http://www.mockingthedraft.com/2012/1/6/2686334/2012-compensatory-draft-pick-predictions
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 9, 2012 12:46 PM EST up reply actions
Sweet - I learned a bunch of stuff I didn't know
Thanks for the linky.
Blue is the color of melancholy and honesty
Green is the color of inexperience, envy and nausea.
no prob. Thank ct....he did this last year too
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 9, 2012 2:37 PM EST up reply actions
We should have gotten a 3rd for Barry Cofield
But our signing of David Baas negates that. We should get a 5th for Boss. We should get a 7th for Smith.
So an extra 5th and 7th seems likely.
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 9, 2012 12:25 PM EST reply actions
5 and 7
is right in our wheelhouse anyway. JR loves those guys at the back end of the draft.
by Pink Flamingo on Feb 9, 2012 12:28 PM EST up reply actions
I am not complaining!
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 9, 2012 12:29 PM EST up reply actions
Whatever we get for the SS12 transaction is gravy
It already gave us Cruz, therefore an SB opportunity and a headache for Philly. What more could you want except a diamond in the rough on draft day.
I got a GIF for that!
Giants by 17 over GB, take it to the bank!
Giants by 10 over SF, take it to the bank! Well, OK, by 3, but we are Super Bowl bound!!!!!!!
Giants will score 30 (correction 21 (damn FG's/failed 2 pt conversion)) or more points, NE 20 or less. Guess who wins? Take it to the bank!
by Fester McDougal on Feb 9, 2012 12:34 PM EST up reply actions
I've always been a huge wheelhouse fan
Ask and you shall receive!!
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True.
We actually have more success in that area than rounds 3 and 4.
World Series attitude, champagne bottle life, nothing every changes so tonight is like tomorrow night.
The Best sound bite from the Super Bowl was after the Pats scored their last TD...
and the NE sports radio guy says “Anybody still wanna take Eli?”
Ummm…would you like to rephrase that question you smug bastard?
Ask and you shall receive!!
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by nywins46 on Feb 9, 2012 12:41 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
yeah, though they're the ones eating the most crow of all. They aren't the team (who didn't guarantee a win)
They aren’t fans whose opinions aren’t heard a ton.
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 9, 2012 12:44 PM EST up reply actions
This!
I got banned from Jests Blog for saying Chad Henne has better stats than Mark Sanchez. And they think they're the big brothers in this town? LMAO try again little sisters!
Let's Go Giants!!!!
Hahaha
That’s awesome. Didn’t he ever learn that you don’t taunt before the game’s over?
I thought this too,
My response after the game would be, does any one still wanna take Brady?
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
"SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!"
"Eli. Your the money QB start with your leadership skiols which are laclkoing."
by ManningHam and Cheese on Feb 9, 2012 8:54 PM EST up reply actions
chowda head
Please get Phil Simms in the Hall of Fame
recorded it
and watched it twice already
I got banned from Jests Blog for saying Chad Henne has better stats than Mark Sanchez. And they think they're the big brothers in this town? LMAO try again little sisters!
Let's Go Giants!!!!
BB-"its still a Nicks Cruz game...Make them throw it to Manningham"
Good advise.
I got a GIF for that!
Giants by 17 over GB, take it to the bank!
Giants by 10 over SF, take it to the bank! Well, OK, by 3, but we are Super Bowl bound!!!!!!!
Giants will score 30 (correction 21 (damn FG's/failed 2 pt conversion)) or more points, NE 20 or less. Guess who wins? Take it to the bank!
by Fester McDougal on Feb 9, 2012 12:52 PM EST up reply actions
Manningham's reesponse:
No problem, I got this.
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
"SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!"
"Eli. Your the money QB start with your leadership skiols which are laclkoing."
by ManningHam and Cheese on Feb 9, 2012 8:54 PM EST up reply actions
Eli dropping a S-Bomb when AB scored
New York Giants 2011 Super Bowl Champions = FACT
The NFL will now FEAR THE LOWERCASE ny
by The Always Well Dressed... on Feb 9, 2012 1:04 PM EST up reply actions
His mom washed his mouth out after the game.
I got a GIF for that!
Giants by 17 over GB, take it to the bank!
Giants by 10 over SF, take it to the bank! Well, OK, by 3, but we are Super Bowl bound!!!!!!!
Giants will score 30 (correction 21 (damn FG's/failed 2 pt conversion)) or more points, NE 20 or less. Guess who wins? Take it to the bank!
by Fester McDougal on Feb 9, 2012 1:10 PM EST up reply actions
His mom grounded him...
He isn’t allowed to win any Super Bowls until next season.
Ask and you shall receive!!
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by nywins46 on Feb 9, 2012 1:12 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
LMAO.
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
"SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!"
"Eli. Your the money QB start with your leadership skiols which are laclkoing."
by ManningHam and Cheese on Feb 9, 2012 8:55 PM EST up reply actions
Just watched the highlights again and Bradshaw has to have the most horrible Super Bowl winning TD...
in the history of touch downs.
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Agreed
I watch Plax’s 2008 TD and cheer
I watch AB’s 2012 TD and laugh
New York Giants 2011 Super Bowl Champions = FACT
The NFL will now FEAR THE LOWERCASE ny
by The Always Well Dressed... on Feb 9, 2012 1:14 PM EST up reply actions
The Super Pooper Looper
I got a GIF for that!
Giants by 17 over GB, take it to the bank!
Giants by 10 over SF, take it to the bank! Well, OK, by 3, but we are Super Bowl bound!!!!!!!
Giants will score 30 (correction 21 (damn FG's/failed 2 pt conversion)) or more points, NE 20 or less. Guess who wins? Take it to the bank!
by Fester McDougal on Feb 9, 2012 1:17 PM EST up reply actions
LOL
Cruz’s face when he is holding the trophy is priceless
New York Giants 2011 Super Bowl Champions = FACT
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Feb 9, 2012 1:08 PM EST up reply actions
Sort of like...
Ask and you shall receive!!
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mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm...trophy
"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning
Crunked and Swagged out since 2011
"Let’s go out there like a bunch of crazed dogs and have some fun!" - The one and only LT
theres three or four vids from the game
they are all great. Props to wilfork on that holding call. Told the refs it wasnt holding and a bad call.
I really think that if Ham leaves
JJ is gonna be nasty as the 3rd WR. He is built for the slot, nice size, speed, a full offseason to learn the offense… ohh and he has Eli F*CKIN Manning throwing to him.
I heard someone say today that they should get Plax back if Ham leaves because JJ is no good. Now that is not a fair thing to say. What we have learned from Giant receivers and the KG offense, it is almost better to be “redshirted” for a year to learn the system.
Examples are Ham in ’08, Cruz in ’10 (then IRed with a so so injury), Ballard in ’10 (as a practice squad guy). So its unfair to judge him when he does not even play (but he is looking much better as a return guy). If he gets a chance to be #3 and fails, then the negative opinion on him will be fair.
New York Giants 2011 Super Bowl Champions = FACT
The NFL will now FEAR THE LOWERCASE ny
by The Always Well Dressed... on Feb 9, 2012 12:48 PM EST reply actions
Agreed
JJ and Barden are ready to emerge. Throw in our baby Welker Danny DePalma as the feel-good story next year and we’ve got a 5-headed hydra with all different skill sets. Very hard to match up with.
by Pink Flamingo on Feb 9, 2012 12:52 PM EST up reply actions
problem with that is
Cruz isn’t really built for the outside. At least not yet.
I got banned from Jests Blog for saying Chad Henne has better stats than Mark Sanchez. And they think they're the big brothers in this town? LMAO try again little sisters!
Let's Go Giants!!!!
not sure that is true
Pretty sure he was an outside WR (preseason against the Jets) but then had to learn the slot this season
New York Giants 2011 Super Bowl Champions = FACT
The NFL will now FEAR THE LOWERCASE ny
by The Always Well Dressed... on Feb 9, 2012 1:19 PM EST up reply actions
this year though
like 1200 of his 1500 yds came from the slot. If it was at least close, I’d agree, but it’s not even close.
I got banned from Jests Blog for saying Chad Henne has better stats than Mark Sanchez. And they think they're the big brothers in this town? LMAO try again little sisters!
Let's Go Giants!!!!
Thats my point
he learned the slot this year. I’m 99% sure he was an outside WR before this season began
New York Giants 2011 Super Bowl Champions = FACT
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Feb 9, 2012 1:42 PM EST up reply actions
And let's just say putting a mic on Brady for the Super Bowl damaged his masculinity...
more than any GIF ever has. The shit he says is the most canned sports cliche bullshit ever uttered by an athlete at any level.
Ask and you shall receive!!
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i was thinking this too
He’s such a fricken tool.
The one to
Ochostinko was comical…Earlier this year, they are playing the winless Colts, and he is talking
about playing championship football, been around BB too long, LOL!
Ricky Williams retired....Cue up Bob Marley,
"Excuse me while I light my spliff"...
"That's why we got you!!"
Why? To make one catch for 21 yards as your third option in the Super Bowl?
Ask and you shall receive!!
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Yeah
and about 15 for the season, LOL!
Ricky Williams retired....Cue up Bob Marley,
"Excuse me while I light my spliff"...
This. He even sounds like a fairy.
Come on guys, let’s have a good gaaammeee.
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
"SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!"
"Eli. Your the money QB start with your leadership skiols which are laclkoing."
by ManningHam and Cheese on Feb 9, 2012 8:59 PM EST up reply actions
He just says what he needs to say and there was no emotion at all
This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.
the inflection in is voice though,
it’s very feminine.
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
"SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!"
"Eli. Your the money QB start with your leadership skiols which are laclkoing."
by ManningHam and Cheese on Feb 9, 2012 9:24 PM EST up reply actions
Lol yeah and i get a kick out of this pic too
This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.
I am not sure how accurate this site is, but if it is...this is pure gold
http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/new-york-giants/
"The saddest thing in life is wasted talent"
shoulda wrapped Webster up for longer
if he plays like he did this year he’s gonna cost them a lot…again.
Fire Fewell
You should be! :P
I got a GIF for that!
Giants by 17 over GB, take it to the bank!
Giants by 10 over SF, take it to the bank! Well, OK, by 3, but we are Super Bowl bound!!!!!!!
Giants will score 30 (correction 21 (damn FG's/failed 2 pt conversion)) or more points, NE 20 or less. Guess who wins? Take it to the bank!
by Fester McDougal on Feb 9, 2012 1:07 PM EST up reply actions
banned for a day
New York Giants 2011 Super Bowl Champions = FACT
The NFL will now FEAR THE LOWERCASE ny
by The Always Well Dressed... on Feb 9, 2012 1:08 PM EST up reply actions
You are feeling quite generous today, TAWD, huh?
Ask and you shall receive!!
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Noted
I got a GIF for that!
Giants by 17 over GB, take it to the bank!
Giants by 10 over SF, take it to the bank! Well, OK, by 3, but we are Super Bowl bound!!!!!!!
Giants will score 30 (correction 21 (damn FG's/failed 2 pt conversion)) or more points, NE 20 or less. Guess who wins? Take it to the bank!
by Fester McDougal on Feb 9, 2012 1:10 PM EST up reply actions
Since the Giants are Champs
Bans only last for 1 day
New York Giants 2011 Super Bowl Champions = FACT
The NFL will now FEAR THE LOWERCASE ny
by The Always Well Dressed... on Feb 9, 2012 1:10 PM EST up reply actions
Eli isn't worth $100/season if you ask me...
If you asked me after ingesting a mega-dose of LSD.
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Cha-ching
Unamortized Bonus Info! That’s hard to come by.
It will cost us $2mm against cap even if we cut Jacobs.
Blue is the color of melancholy and honesty
Green is the color of inexperience, envy and nausea.
I hope he likes blue
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Restructure then
He is not a starting RB for this team.
Husker/Giants/Mets fan living behind enemy lines.
Amazing what they did to the first rounders starting this year
Prince’s deal was worth $5mm less than Aaron Ross’s was at the same pick in 2007.
Blue is the color of melancholy and honesty
Green is the color of inexperience, envy and nausea.
They've capped the rookie signing structure since Ross was drafted.
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
"SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!"
"Eli. Your the money QB start with your leadership skiols which are laclkoing."
by ManningHam and Cheese on Feb 9, 2012 9:01 PM EST up reply actions
bookmarked....i need this information for my salary cap fanpost a little later...
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 9, 2012 2:41 PM EST up reply actions
Diehl numbers are funky
They don’t add up because he gets an extra $750k or $1mm if he plays LT. The big figure ($31.5 over 6) probably assumed he would earn those bonuses, but even with the bonuses the base salaries don’t match the total contract value. iI looks like he doesn’t have unamortized signing bonus, so whatever his salary is, that’s what he costs, and it doesn’t cost anything to cut him.
Blue is the color of melancholy and honesty
Green is the color of inexperience, envy and nausea.
Anyone catch that article....or maybe it was just a quote from JR
and he said After a week 1 drop vs. Washington Cruz got officially passed over for Hixon and that is actually when the Giants decided to sign Stockley.
AFTER 1 EFFING DROP?
this is the shit that annoys me about this organization.
I told everyone all year that if Hixon hadn’t got hurt that Cruz woulda been passed over too.
and now they admit it.
SMH
and people wonder why i still adamantly defend the heck outta Barden.
Fire Fewell
yeah he said it yesterday in an interview
New York Giants 2011 Super Bowl Champions = FACT
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Feb 9, 2012 12:58 PM EST up reply actions
Is that factitude?
Ask and you shall receive!!
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aparently the Risk wasnt worth the Award
Glad to see the Cruz, lowered the risk…
Regardless of what happens, No playoffs, playoffs, no superblow, superblow.... The 2011/2012 is one of my favorite Giants Teams of all time.
Award = reward....
Regardless of what happens, No playoffs, playoffs, no superblow, superblow.... The 2011/2012 is one of my favorite Giants Teams of all time.
The organization has very little tolerance
for rookies. Any sign of mental errors and the bench becomes thy home.
I got a GIF for that!
Giants by 17 over GB, take it to the bank!
Giants by 10 over SF, take it to the bank! Well, OK, by 3, but we are Super Bowl bound!!!!!!!
Giants will score 30 (correction 21 (damn FG's/failed 2 pt conversion)) or more points, NE 20 or less. Guess who wins? Take it to the bank!
by Fester McDougal on Feb 9, 2012 1:06 PM EST up reply actions
I dont like it
but then again I do, lets the players know, that they cant come out and half arse it… nothing is given to them, etc etc…
Regardless of what happens, No playoffs, playoffs, no superblow, superblow.... The 2011/2012 is one of my favorite Giants Teams of all time.
yeah if you remember that throw from Eli
that Barden plucked out of the air in front of a defender, I think Barden could be really good for us next year. But somewhere I heard his blocking was pretty lackluster…
by giantsnetsmets on Feb 9, 2012 1:06 PM EST up reply actions
I am one of the Barden Faithful
He seemed to take a step forward this year, a very very small step… but then came Revis.
I like him a lot, just hope he figures out how to do what is asked of him.
Regardless of what happens, No playoffs, playoffs, no superblow, superblow.... The 2011/2012 is one of my favorite Giants Teams of all time.
I am too
He seemed to be making progress at the end of 2010, too, but then he got hurt.
by soulless chimney on Feb 9, 2012 1:20 PM EST up reply actions
his problem is he has no ST value
unfortunately our ST is so weak we can’t afford for WR4 to not contribute on ST
This is what bothers me. Then why was he drafted? They knew he was not a good ST player yet they wasted a roster spot on him while they were still carrying over Moss on the roster.
This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.
Reese isn't the one making depth chart changes
That’s the coaches.
Team Ghost: Manningham, Sintim, Beckum, Barden, JPP, Anvil, Ross
i know that
obviously it was Gilbride, but i had to reference JR b/c he’s the one who admitted it.
I’m sure KG would have never admitted that in a million years, prolly would just changed the subject to how Barden sucks b/c that bum Revis shut him down.
Fire Fewell
stupid bum
preventing Barden from being the best WR ever….
Regardless of what happens, No playoffs, playoffs, no superblow, superblow.... The 2011/2012 is one of my favorite Giants Teams of all time.
andi at that time Stockley's package was larger
This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.
Sound FX quotes
Brady about throwing past JPP: "It’s like throwing in a forest – those guys’ arms."
Wilfork and a ref talking about the holding call on Boothe later in the game
Wilfork: "No, that was a bad call."
Paganelli: "Why didn’t you tell me that before I threw it?"
Wilfork: "Because for the ones you guys missed, I deserve one."
Pats radio guy after Brady’s TD pass to Hernandez: “Anybody still wanna take Eli?”
Lead ref after Welker’s drop: “Oh, that was the game.”
Belichick to his defense before the final drive when Manningham went off:
“This is still a Cruz and Nicks game. I know we’re right on them. It’s tight but those are the guys. Make them go to Manningham. Make them go to Pascoe.”
Team Ghost: Manningham, Sintim, Beckum, Barden, JPP, Anvil, Ross
The comments out of the refs were a bit odd. They had a real "biased" accent...if you know what I mean.
Ask and you shall receive!!
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Hopefully the NFL catches onto that
And addresses it.
Husker/Giants/Mets fan living behind enemy lines.
was it the '07 SB game?
I can’t remember, but i think it was. one of the refs was talking to Pierce about a play and dude was literally PUMPED UP! like a fan practically
AP just kindly pushed him aside and ignored him but it was rather funny.
Fire Fewell
I remember...that was funny
Ask and you shall receive!!
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And now for something completely different
I got a GIF for that!
Giants by 17 over GB, take it to the bank!
Giants by 10 over SF, take it to the bank! Well, OK, by 3, but we are Super Bowl bound!!!!!!!
Giants will score 30 (correction 21 (damn FG's/failed 2 pt conversion)) or more points, NE 20 or less. Guess who wins? Take it to the bank!
Jennifer Love
nice
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Feb 9, 2012 1:14 PM EST up reply actions
Oh, WTF!!
What manners!!? That guy has his elbows on the table!
Ask and you shall receive!!
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I agree, and how did her purse get to the table?
I got a GIF for that!
Giants by 17 over GB, take it to the bank!
Giants by 10 over SF, take it to the bank! Well, OK, by 3, but we are Super Bowl bound!!!!!!!
Giants will score 30 (correction 21 (damn FG's/failed 2 pt conversion)) or more points, NE 20 or less. Guess who wins? Take it to the bank!
by Fester McDougal on Feb 9, 2012 1:25 PM EST up reply actions
Oh, wow...now my intelligence has been insulted.
Ask and you shall receive!!
nywins42 = nywins46
Who enjoyed a parade like us? NOOOOOOOBODY!
And that is difficult to do! :P
I got a GIF for that!
Giants by 17 over GB, take it to the bank!
Giants by 10 over SF, take it to the bank! Well, OK, by 3, but we are Super Bowl bound!!!!!!!
Giants will score 30 (correction 21 (damn FG's/failed 2 pt conversion)) or more points, NE 20 or less. Guess who wins? Take it to the bank!
by Fester McDougal on Feb 9, 2012 1:30 PM EST up reply actions
she is something else
isnt she….
Regardless of what happens, No playoffs, playoffs, no superblow, superblow.... The 2011/2012 is one of my favorite Giants Teams of all time.
She has gained some weight over the last 2-3 years
I think she looks great with some meat on her bones but the media has killed her.
Team Ghost: Manningham, Sintim, Beckum, Barden, JPP, Anvil, Ross
aint nothin wrong
with not looking like a skeleton
Regardless of what happens, No playoffs, playoffs, no superblow, superblow.... The 2011/2012 is one of my favorite Giants Teams of all time.
The media killed her?
You gain 30 pounds when you die…no lie?
Ask and you shall receive!!
nywins42 = nywins46
Who enjoyed a parade like us? NOOOOOOOBODY!
It is a shame what has become of her
I got a GIF for that!
Giants by 17 over GB, take it to the bank!
Giants by 10 over SF, take it to the bank! Well, OK, by 3, but we are Super Bowl bound!!!!!!!
Giants will score 30 (correction 21 (damn FG's/failed 2 pt conversion)) or more points, NE 20 or less. Guess who wins? Take it to the bank!
by Fester McDougal on Feb 9, 2012 1:20 PM EST up reply actions
Kersploosh!
Blue is the color of melancholy and honesty
Green is the color of inexperience, envy and nausea.
I guess she is sort of "Bradying"...
Ask and you shall receive!!
nywins42 = nywins46
Who enjoyed a parade like us? NOOOOOOOBODY!
Sumu Wrestling anyone?
Ricky Williams retired....Cue up Bob Marley,
"Excuse me while I light my spliff"...
Next time I see the Family Guy where Peter dates her...
..I will remember this Gif fondly.
Blue is the color of melancholy and honesty
Green is the color of inexperience, envy and nausea.
bitch looks like she got an attitude
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 9, 2012 2:43 PM EST up reply actions
My future wife,
then ex-wife.
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
"SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!"
"Eli. Your the money QB start with your leadership skiols which are laclkoing."
by ManningHam and Cheese on Feb 9, 2012 9:05 PM EST up reply actions
That is great dark wood table and chair set.
This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.
Oh, I'm getting paid.
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
"SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!"
"Eli. Your the money QB start with your leadership skiols which are laclkoing."
by ManningHam and Cheese on Feb 9, 2012 9:24 PM EST up reply actions
I defy you to find a thread on SBNation that has this many posts...
BBV – People who do not give a f#$k about work!
I got a GIF for that!
Giants by 17 over GB, take it to the bank!
Giants by 10 over SF, take it to the bank! Well, OK, by 3, but we are Super Bowl bound!!!!!!!
Giants will score 30 (correction 21 (damn FG's/failed 2 pt conversion)) or more points, NE 20 or less. Guess who wins? Take it to the bank!
by Fester McDougal on Feb 9, 2012 1:29 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
I care about work...
Just not as much as I don’t care about work.
Ask and you shall receive!!
nywins42 = nywins46
Who enjoyed a parade like us? NOOOOOOOBODY!
Or school!
Although that’s also because it’s my last term.
by soulless chimney on Feb 9, 2012 1:48 PM EST up reply actions
I care about work too
just not as much as I care about pointing out when people are wrong on the intraweb
I got banned from Jests Blog for saying Chad Henne has better stats than Mark Sanchez. And they think they're the big brothers in this town? LMAO try again little sisters!
Let's Go Giants!!!!
I'm self-unemployed
Blue is the color of melancholy and honesty
Green is the color of inexperience, envy and nausea.
hah
I got banned from Jests Blog for saying Chad Henne has better stats than Mark Sanchez. And they think they're the big brothers in this town? LMAO try again little sisters!
Let's Go Giants!!!!
Your all pains in the arse! :P
I got a GIF for that!
Giants by 17 over GB, take it to the bank!
Giants by 10 over SF, take it to the bank! Well, OK, by 3, but we are Super Bowl bound!!!!!!!
Giants will score 30 (correction 21 (damn FG's/failed 2 pt conversion)) or more points, NE 20 or less. Guess who wins? Take it to the bank!
by Fester McDougal on Feb 9, 2012 2:05 PM EST up reply actions
Me too
Only way to go…
Ricky Williams retired....Cue up Bob Marley,
"Excuse me while I light my spliff"...
i use this line to )
i got a ring! he got a ring !
Eli Manning Best Qb in the Game Today!
on Flava Flav"He wears a clock around his neck of course Coughlin would like him." no qb has 15 td’s in the forth quarter in one season …Except eli
no qb has 7 road playoffs wins ….Except Eli
no qb has won 2 sb’s in nyc where pressure kills …Except Eli
So much to comment about this
New York Giants 2011 Super Bowl Champions = FACT
The NFL will now FEAR THE LOWERCASE ny
by The Always Well Dressed... on Feb 9, 2012 1:51 PM EST reply actions
Carr licking his lips is really creepy
New York Giants 2011 Super Bowl Champions = FACT
The NFL will now FEAR THE LOWERCASE ny
by The Always Well Dressed... on Feb 9, 2012 1:51 PM EST up reply actions
He is thinking...
“Hmmm…with this key to the city I’ll be able to get into any Applebee’s I want!! ANY TIME I WANT!!”
Ask and you shall receive!!
nywins42 = nywins46
Who enjoyed a parade like us? NOOOOOOOBODY!
Jernigan's like..."seriously, wtf dude?"
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 9, 2012 2:45 PM EST up reply actions
Maybe Jerrigan is moving to break a wind
This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.
Maybe Jerrigan is moving to break a wind
This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.
Oh leave Weatherford alone...
He’s just “white-boy wasted”
Ask and you shall receive!!
nywins42 = nywins46
Who enjoyed a parade like us? NOOOOOOOBODY!
hangin' out with Gronk?
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 9, 2012 3:00 PM EST up reply actions
you know it!
Ask and you shall receive!!
nywins42 = nywins46
Who enjoyed a parade like us? NOOOOOOOBODY!
LOL
New York Giants 2011 Super Bowl Champions = FACT
The NFL will now FEAR THE LOWERCASE ny
by The Always Well Dressed... on Feb 9, 2012 3:33 PM EST up reply actions
Hmm. What soccer team's jersey does Tynes have on?
I know it has his name and number on the back.
Internet…take me away…..
Blue is the color of melancholy and honesty
Green is the color of inexperience, envy and nausea.
Adidas
duh
I got banned from Jests Blog for saying Chad Henne has better stats than Mark Sanchez. And they think they're the big brothers in this town? LMAO try again little sisters!
Let's Go Giants!!!!
Scotland National Team
Could be a leftover from his days with the Claymores.
Blue is the color of melancholy and honesty
Green is the color of inexperience, envy and nausea.
I was kidding
I got banned from Jests Blog for saying Chad Henne has better stats than Mark Sanchez. And they think they're the big brothers in this town? LMAO try again little sisters!
Let's Go Giants!!!!
I know
Blue is the color of melancholy and honesty
Green is the color of inexperience, envy and nausea.
Scotland
Followed by a google image search to differentiate between Scotland and Celtic.
Unless MM doesn't get a lot of offers
then he has to go. Thanks for the catch but Victor and Nicks needs to get paid too in the near future. Sorry bro.
I like Osi but he’s too expensive. No more of this first round or bust talks, take a second for him.
Jacobs still has some left in the tank (his YPC was .01 lower than Bradshaw’s) but it’s too much money. It sucks after a Super Bowl winning year but he needs to take less money or leave.
Dwayne Allen round one, problem solved.
The offensive line deserves FULL attention. Bye, bye Kareem. It’s been fun but you suck now. Let Boothe and Petrus battle for LG. Draft a lineman early, and pray Diehl doesn’t suck at RT. Or we draft a center and move Baas back to his original position. Reese has to fix this group, their play was pathetic.
World Series attitude, champagne bottle life, nothing every changes so tonight is like tomorrow night.
Agree on everything except Osi.
We’ll get a 3rd round comp. I’ll take that plus another year of his production for him versus a 2. I want a bonafide starter for Osi if we are going to trade him.
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 9, 2012 2:50 PM EST up reply actions
At best
a 3rd rounder, most likely a 4th….Before the season a 2nd, not now.
Ricky Williams retired....Cue up Bob Marley,
"Excuse me while I light my spliff"...
Nah, 12.5 sacks in 12 games bro....They were offering a 2nd round pick when he had 11.5 sacks in 2010.
They’ll offer at least a 2.
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 9, 2012 3:04 PM EST up reply actions
Not now
He is 30 years old, with one year left on hi deal, and two knee surgeries.
Ricky Williams retired....Cue up Bob Marley,
"Excuse me while I light my spliff"...
His deal for this year is very manageable. He's proven that he is still capable
and people were offering the 2nd rounder when they knew he’d need surgery
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 9, 2012 4:11 PM EST up reply actions
Before the surgery
not after my friend, mark it down, won’t get a second rounder.
For a new team he is a rental for a year, unless they are willing to pay in the future.
Ricky Williams retired....Cue up Bob Marley,
"Excuse me while I light my spliff"...
they would be willing of course. The reason for the trade is to ensure that nobody else
gets him.
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 9, 2012 4:18 PM EST up reply actions
Who are "they"
The G-Men would be willing, the new team will take a wait and see approach, no reason to pay him now.
Ricky Williams retired....Cue up Bob Marley,
"Excuse me while I light my spliff"...
I hope the Giants would find a way to keep him around
there’s multiple teams that would be wild to sign Osi. I can see the Ravens, Dolphins, Chargers, Chiefs, Titans among others that’d be interested. And that’s just the AFC
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 9, 2012 4:25 PM EST up reply actions
The reason
he didn’t squawk when he came back from the ankle issues were:
A) It was painfully obvious how well the new “Freak” was playing
B) He probably feels this was his last go around here, just my opinion. I am not saying I want him gone, saying he most definitely
be happy here as a situational player, so as an organization,
move on, that’s it.
Ricky Williams retired....Cue up Bob Marley,
"Excuse me while I light my spliff"...
I suppose. But I still maintain not getting rid of him for a 3rd rounder or lower.
He would snag us a 3rd round compensatory pick, so I’d rather have his production for the next year and the comp pick than just pick up a marginally higher 3rd rounder instead.
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 9, 2012 4:40 PM EST up reply actions
I just don't see him
Playing the “good soldier” as a situational player.
Ricky Williams retired....Cue up Bob Marley,
"Excuse me while I light my spliff"...
Pending Article
Ed, may I suggest a few articles?
1. it would be great to get an update on all the potential injury comebacks for 2012 and the players that suffered to injuries:
Key injured:
Defense: Austin, Thomas, Jones, Beatty, Goff, Johnson, Sintim, Tryon
Offense: Ballard, Beckum, Hixon, Andrews,
Key gimps:
Baas, Tuck, Barden, Nicks (shoulder),
2. It would be great to get a year-end recap on how Giants’ coaches evaluate the rookies: Prince, Hyno, Herzlich, Paysinger, Jernigan, Jones, Sash, Brewer, J-Will (and expectations). That seems like a pretty large group that made impacts.
good suggestion
Beatty’s on offense
I got banned from Jests Blog for saying Chad Henne has better stats than Mark Sanchez. And they think they're the big brothers in this town? LMAO try again little sisters!
Let's Go Giants!!!!
Visanthe Shiancoe is a UFA
Blue is the color of melancholy and honesty
Green is the color of inexperience, envy and nausea.
best news I heard since Sunday night
can’t believe I didn’t know that…is he getting Sanchized? I mean franchised?
I got banned from Jests Blog for saying Chad Henne has better stats than Mark Sanchez. And they think they're the big brothers in this town? LMAO try again little sisters!
Let's Go Giants!!!!
That would be cool
he’s got the height and showed he can be dominate if he’s got someone throwing to him.
Please get Phil Simms in the Hall of Fame
He sucked this year
dropping passes all over, like his Giant days, rather have SS12 back then him (if Mario leaves).
Ricky Williams retired....Cue up Bob Marley,
"Excuse me while I light my spliff"...
no way to ss12
He’ll be in Cruz’s way in the slot. That ship has sailed
I got banned from Jests Blog for saying Chad Henne has better stats than Mark Sanchez. And they think they're the big brothers in this town? LMAO try again little sisters!
Let's Go Giants!!!!
I know he had a crappy year
But he’s better than Randy McMichael or the other over the hill TEs, that’s all.
Blue is the color of melancholy and honesty
Green is the color of inexperience, envy and nausea.
Andre Brown
has just received a new recording deal, TMZ is reporting…If you can ’t make it as a RB…
Ricky Williams retired....Cue up Bob Marley,
"Excuse me while I light my spliff"...
he does sound a little bit like
Lil Jon
I got banned from Jests Blog for saying Chad Henne has better stats than Mark Sanchez. And they think they're the big brothers in this town? LMAO try again little sisters!
Let's Go Giants!!!!
You all do realize
Saying Osi doesn’t deserve top money for his position on this team is stupid. He deserves top money for his production. The Giants are not in the SB without Osi. Osi’s strip sack of Rodgers in the NFC Championship game helped the Giants get to the SB. There are few DEs in the Nfl with better production then Osi.
Osi, when he signed his contract, got one of the top contracts in the NFL at his position.
It was frontloaded, so he got 7-8 million per for the first few years of his..AND he got paid when he sat out the entire season because of injury. He already got the vast majority of his contract, and the past two years it went down. Does he deserve good money…sure! But he hasn’t been underpaid. Not the least bit.
He should get an extension, though, I agree….with the same amount that he’s average over this contract….6-7 million per year. We can’t afford any more than that because we still got to pay JPP and Tuck (who’s earned even less than Osi) needs to get paid too.
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 9, 2012 3:15 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
He also can probably earn as much over time with the Giants as going to a bad team
They’ll pay him, toss him out without any other studs nearby, he’ll get tripled and chopped and his legs will get ground up, then they’ll cut him
Here he showed how impactful he can be as a part timer
Eli is our King!
Players have egos though. Won't consider that.
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 9, 2012 3:31 PM EST up reply actions
This
This is the most reasonable thing I have seen here. Give Osi a 3 year contract for 18ish mil. Maybe it can be lower with incentives for playing games, getting sacks, forcing fumbles and things like that. Give him money, make him happy, win games.
exactly
he signed a 41 million dollar contract…you don’t think that’s enough?
I got banned from Jests Blog for saying Chad Henne has better stats than Mark Sanchez. And they think they're the big brothers in this town? LMAO try again little sisters!
Let's Go Giants!!!!
Osi's worth more than we owe him. but less than he thinks he's worth.
Hence the conflict. I think they will put a last and best offer on the table and hopefully Osi will realize he’s not getting any more elsewhere.
Blue is the color of melancholy and honesty
Green is the color of inexperience, envy and nausea.
Jerry Reese is very high on practice squadder TE Christian Hopkins.
Out Ballarding Jake Ballard?
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 9, 2012 3:06 PM EST reply actions
Dwayne Allen via draft is who i want to bolster our offense
Jersey Strong, Brooklyn Ready
by BrooklynNets8 on Feb 9, 2012 3:07 PM EST up reply actions
I wouldn't mind that at all
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 9, 2012 3:09 PM EST up reply actions
I wouldn't mind that at all
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 9, 2012 3:09 PM EST up reply actions
I second that... Great highlight tape
You down with....... ouch... doesent look like hes getting up
(JPP duh)
can someone please show me film of Dwayne Allen that is making so many Giants fans salivate over him
frankly…I don’t see it but i’ve admittedly not watched a lot of tape on him.
so again, if anyone got something that they can show me I’d appreciate it.
thanks in advance
Fire Fewell
well look at ballard
a guy who we all though had no offensive skills or hands before the season..a TE that does have that kind of talent with this offense will be scary
Jersey Strong, Brooklyn Ready
by BrooklynNets8 on Feb 9, 2012 3:11 PM EST up reply actions
I had more faith in Ballard prior to this season than any other TE on the roster
and no, i’m not joking.
Fire Fewell
well yeah ON THE ROSTER
but a TE with real potential,that can block too with the WR core we have now damnn
Jersey Strong, Brooklyn Ready
by BrooklynNets8 on Feb 9, 2012 3:16 PM EST up reply actions
frankly, I don't understand what we're talkign about anymore
I wanted to see film on Allen and than somehow we got to talking about Ballard.
are you saying that b/c some people slept on Ballard somehow I am sleeping on Allen?
I’m lost.
Fire Fewell
Easiest way to put it is Ballard blocking skillz with top end TE production in the receiving department.
Prototypical size, good speed (I’d expect at least a 4.6 at the combine) and he was a strong in-line blocker before Clemson used him in more receiving sets. He was a mismatch a lot of the time, especially in the red zone. Strong body control….is a hands catcher that can box out defenders and catch the ball at the highest point. Also, a more polished route runner than most.
I realize this is a highlight video, but it illustrates everything that I like about him (no duh lol)….I’ve see 4 or so Clemson games, looking more on the defensive side with Branch and Thompson, but he stood out on offense. When other people started talking about him, it confirmed what I saw.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPfAhUW_c2A
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 9, 2012 3:25 PM EST up reply actions
thanks, video is better than some of the stuff I've seen
that video doesn’t show too much in the way of blocking but it looks like the kid knows how to run a route and has decent hands.
Fire Fewell
I can't help with finding videos of blocking...been scouring...
I’m going based off my notes on what I saw this past season and then confirming with scouting reports.
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 9, 2012 3:37 PM EST up reply actions
cool. keep us posted
I think he could develop into a nice player.
I’m not sold on him @ 32 though.
Fire Fewell
yeah. I'll wait until the combine to figure that out.
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 9, 2012 4:04 PM EST up reply actions
look at his 2010 stuff for the blocking
2011 they went with the Cam Newton offense. 2010 he’s playing real TE and knocking people on their arse.
Really doesn’t matter. With the entire NFL with a hard on for TEs and him being what he is, he’s not lasting to 32.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
When I watched Clemson this year
I focused on all the freshmen receivers they had, didn’t pay much attention to him.
Ricky Williams retired....Cue up Bob Marley,
"Excuse me while I light my spliff"...
I've watched Clemson all year
he runs routes like Hakeem Nicks.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
JR
will do what right. I mean, we definitely made the playoff and made some noise! I trust the guy. He kept Cruz. Picked Nicks of Britt (who has been hurt). Took JPP over Derrick Morgan. Found JWill. Let Boss and SS go without overspending.
May Doug Marrone bless you and keep you.
I may sound uninformed...but
Who are the giants currently using the franchise tag on?
You down with....... ouch... doesent look like hes getting up
(JPP duh)
I don't think they intend to use it on anyone.
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 9, 2012 3:40 PM EST up reply actions
The franchise tag
Applies to someone who could otherwise be a FA, but you offer him a one year deal worth the average of the top five players at his position. The Giants only have a few players who might merit such a deal (Eli, Nicks?, JPP, Tuck) and all are under contract for 2012.
The only remote possibility would be Steve Weatherford, but I think if they are willing to pay him top punter money they will want him on a long-term deal.
Blue is the color of melancholy and honesty
Green is the color of inexperience, envy and nausea.
We rarely franchise. We have used franchise tag only twice. Once for Jumbo Elliot and 2nd time for Brandon Jacobs.
This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.
What I would do
1. Cut David Diehl. He’s terrible at any position, and he’s not cheap.
2. Cut Antrel Rolle. Whiny, arrogant, and more importantly, he can’t cover to save his life. You could definitely get an upgrade cheaper.
3. Let Jacobs go. His personality has become really toxic, he’s 30 and 4 million is a lot to pay for a boulder who averages under 4 YPC.
4. Resign TT and let Ross go. TT is just a better player
5. Draft Luke Kuechly to become our middle LB. Yes, we actually need to improve our linebackers (Cue the OMGZ LBBZZ)
6.Find a dynamic TE to replace Ballard. I don’t know what TEs are in the draft, but a good one should be available in the 2nd round.
7. Try to resign Super Mario, but if not, bring back a certain traitor who thought he would be better off with the LOLZDream Team.
8. Find upgrades to O-line in draft or FA. Priority
There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only BLUE WALLS.
The 2012 Mets: Fortune cookie says come back in 2015
LBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBZZZZZZZZZZZeeeeeeeeeZZZZZZZZZ
Kuechly won’t get past Philthy. I don’t want an LB anyways. Rather have our next RT or TE, but BPA ATW
Philly won't draft Kuechly they'll draft Melvin Ingram cuz he's short and has a motor
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
Does he have alligator arms too?
"The saddest thing in life is wasted talent"
by Larry Soprano on Feb 9, 2012 5:33 PM EST up reply actions
Hmm
1) I think you cut him if he isn’t willing to take a moderate paycut. We need him at RT.
2) Disagree, Rolle played well once he was allowed to play actual safety. Don’t think we could find an upgrade that’s cheaper
3) Agreed. I don’t think Jacobs’ salary is worth his production
4) Agree. Keep Ross if he’s cheap obviously.
5) He most likely won’t be available, but if he is, no arguments from me
6) We’ll have to have a new TE. Reese said he expects both Beckum and Ballard to land on PUP. A good TE might not be available by the end of the 2nd.
7) Rather have a speed guy than Benesteve Smarnold. Cruz belongs in the slot.
8) Yes. We need a new RT. An upgrade to LG may be necessary as well.
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 9, 2012 3:51 PM EST up reply actions
agree with you on Rolle
He played amazingly when you factor in he played out of position all season. I bet a lot of big time safeties would never have done that.
I got banned from Jests Blog for saying Chad Henne has better stats than Mark Sanchez. And they think they're the big brothers in this town? LMAO try again little sisters!
Let's Go Giants!!!!
LOL at cut Rolle?
Seriously? Let the man actually play safety instead of Nickel corner, and you’ll see how good he is.
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
"SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!"
"Eli. Your the money QB start with your leadership skiols which are laclkoing."
by ManningHam and Cheese on Feb 9, 2012 9:13 PM EST up reply actions
Rolle played out of position most of the year. And he’s still under contract and if we get TT back he goes back to safety (Natural Position)
Diehl… well I cant really disagree with that, but looked decent during SB not vs SF.
Luke Kuechly wont fall to 32, if he does he seems like a good core player.
Grant would go before Rolle for sure.
You down with....... ouch... doesent look like hes getting up
(JPP duh)
Rolle has been mediocre-bad his entire career and he's getting paid like a top 5 safety
There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only BLUE WALLS.
The 2012 Mets: Fortune cookie says come back in 2015
Pro bowl just two years ago for the GMEN
Not sure if it was because of production or hype I cant really elaborate, all I say is he is not worth cutting.
You down with....... ouch... doesent look like hes getting up
(JPP duh)
About to say
Hes not THAT old ha!
You down with....... ouch... doesent look like hes getting up
(JPP duh)
Not totally useless tho
Dudes a tackling machine.
Yes, I am a Giants fan. Now that we got that out of the way....
IMPEACH DOLAN!!!!
I bELIeve in ELI!!!! - Primetime -
The Big Boy Cometh....Team Jacobs
Marines say Oorah; BBVer's say SUAMBP! say it with me - Suuaahmbp!!!!
by wilddre22 on Feb 9, 2012 7:38 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
he's not useless at all
i give the guy credit for basically playing Corner all year.
he’s a very versatile DB. kinda like TT.
I don’t think KP could do that at all. just like I don’t think Ross or Webster could go play Safety.
Grant is actually pretty versatile too, but it’s just that’s he doesn’t have the wheels he used to.
still doesn’t mean he should made the pro bowl last year.
Fire Fewell
I think he's getting paid as a top 2 safety
frankly, I wouldn’t be too upset to see him leave either.
but i do give him a lot of credit for playing Nickel Corner all year, and there would be serious cap issues if they did just cut him lose.
Fire Fewell
right, because of the cap stiuation and the way his cap got restructured, even if we wanted to...it'd hurt us to cut
Cweb, Canty, and rolle because those were the guys that restructured.
And I’d be upset to see him leave, but you knew that andi haha
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 9, 2012 3:53 PM EST up reply actions
of course
cutting him wouldn’t be smart
especially after they finally put a leash on him!
Fire Fewell
haha truth
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 9, 2012 4:04 PM EST up reply actions
Plus
He’s now part of the core that helped us win this championship. He’s still relatively young and helps make up what I still think is an underrated secondary. I’m not for breaking up any of the nucleus, if we can avoid it.
Yes, I am a Giants fan. Now that we got that out of the way....
IMPEACH DOLAN!!!!
I bELIeve in ELI!!!! - Primetime -
The Big Boy Cometh....Team Jacobs
Marines say Oorah; BBVer's say SUAMBP! say it with me - Suuaahmbp!!!!
by wilddre22 on Feb 9, 2012 7:40 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
I know people think that I may not like the guy b/c he's outspoken
I could care less how much he talks. heck, i defend Jacobs to the death for his comments and have even supported a lot of Osi’s stuff over the years, but Rolle takes it too far…. sometimes.
I really wish he would have never done like maybe 2 or 3 interviews the past 2 years. everything else is fine. But the stuff on the radio about TC and Rex Ryan w/ KP. and than the thing about Fewell not making him a play maker. Yeah, we all knew that was the case, and we killed Fewell for it, but Rolle said earlier in the season he’d play anywhere, do anything, team first, blah blah blah. But when the going got tough…it was Fewell’s fault, and he took it public. Or he was inferring that it was Websters fault on the Dez TD. C’mon.
I like a guy who talks. We all loved Stray. But we all kinda had a falling out w/ Tiki b/c of what he said, and how he said it.
I just think like, if we were talking hypothetically: if Rolle was a ex-giant, and said those things about TC or said those things about Fewell, it would NOT be well received by the Giant Community at all.
Fire Fewell
BUT in closing...
if the guy is ALL IN, and even if the Giants lose 3 games next year in a row, and Rolle doesn’t get mad, or out anyone or blame anyone. Hell yeah.
the guy is a great teammate, in spite of putting his foot in his mouth.
I can see a lot of the players rally around him. They do. They FAs love him (Canty, Bernard, Grant). Kiwi loves him. Hell, they all love him.
Just don’t get outta pocket so much. that’s it!
Fire Fewell
do what Jacobs does...
go after the media, wives, rex ryan, Cowboys, Eagles, ya know…the necessary suspects.
Fire Fewell
you mean he can't tell C Web to just
Shut up and look cute?
Yes, I am a Giants fan. Now that we got that out of the way....
IMPEACH DOLAN!!!!
I bELIeve in ELI!!!! - Primetime -
The Big Boy Cometh....Team Jacobs
Marines say Oorah; BBVer's say SUAMBP! say it with me - Suuaahmbp!!!!
I think some of you guys are forgetting the days of
michael johnson and james butler
I got banned from Jests Blog for saying Chad Henne has better stats than Mark Sanchez. And they think they're the big brothers in this town? LMAO try again little sisters!
Let's Go Giants!!!!
You're high. Go drink some water.
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"Eli. Your the money QB start with your leadership skiols which are laclkoing."
by ManningHam and Cheese on Feb 9, 2012 9:15 PM EST up reply actions
Rolle has more guaranteed money coming plus unamortized bonus
In 2012 he’s costiing us $7-$9MM vs the cap whether he plays for us or not.
If we pay himt the rest of his guaranteed this year In 2013, he’s a $7mm salary but a $2mm hit if we cut him, so if he doesn’t restructure this year, he’s likely gone next year. However we still owe him a lot of cash, so he’s got the hammer on us.
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Green is the color of inexperience, envy and nausea.
My biggest concern
How do we stop the quick release 3 step drop or les passing game.
There were multiple times this year when this was used to neutralize the pass rush, and that concerns me.
You down wit JPP?
I got 99 problems but a Vick ain't one!
i want bbv guys opinon on something
weve pilfered dallas’s free agents before (chris canty), and i think we should again. We all know about our TE situation and one player i want the giants to take a look at is Martellus Bennett. He is a very talented TE physically in terms of size (six foot six) and 270 pounds-just like ballard. He ran a 4.68 and a 4.62-faster than Ballard. He was highly regarded out of college and has a world of talent and he has expierence as he has been in the nfl for 4 season. Not to mention the fact he is one of the great blocking TE in the nfl. he fits out bill as a big strong te and can do a lot of other stuff. he will not break the bank and can be quite cheap and cost effective. this is a guy if i were jerry reese i would be really agressive in pursing. seems liek the perfect fit. what do you guys think ??/
That guy is super lazy
Please get Phil Simms in the Hall of Fame
The Cowboys fans have no choice. They have JJ lol]
This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.
Who am I to question JR
Get the best available talent when you it’s your time to pick.
On who to keep. Why not try to give Osi a 2-3 year extension. If he’s alright sticking around then …why not try if the money is right. Maybe he’s come down to earth. maybe….
I like keeping Petrus, Diehl and McKenzie …but possibly dropping Diehl if we get a OT in the draft. I would still look to get a MLB but if our league has turned into a passing one then why not another OLB?
I think Baas was a nice pickup but I’d like to see a 2nd round pick used there. Snee really had a hard time this year and that is a concern.
Go Giants
Please get Phil Simms in the Hall of Fame
oh ...and I think it's time to say goodbye to Jacobs.
He just doesn’t run hard all of the time.
I wonder if this is a FA pickup since we need a solid backup with AB getting hurt all the time
Please get Phil Simms in the Hall of Fame
I say bring Jacobs back
the guy ran hard this season. his mistakes are magnified b/c of his size and the fact that the media loves depicting him as the bad guy. but he could be like Otis was as the end of his career. Just fall forward. Get those 2-3 yards runs. pound the D, let the OLine go to work and wear down the D.
Fire Fewell
never happen...
but he’s put some chip blocks on dudes this year that have been incredible.
the one in the super bowl sounded crazy
Fire Fewell
that was one hell of a chip block
just seems inconsistent and has lost a step
Please get Phil Simms in the Hall of Fame
Otis was motivated at the end of his career with the G-men
because he didn’t have a ring. Brandon’s got two. Otis killed for those 2-3 yards, whereas Brandon often times seems to go down too easy. I was surprised he got that 4th and 1 in the Super Bowl that was called back.
You may have something there in the motivation area. BJ already has achieved success so anything more is just extra for him.
This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.
what are the giants to do..my thoughts...
this article tends not to discuss FA Terrell Thomas, Ross, Rocky Bernard..so here’s my comments on those guys and others:
As much as I love what Manningham has brought to this team and his key catches, his at times poor route running and lack of concentration are too frustrating for starters money – esp. if it means paying him or Cruz (to an extension); plus i like the idea
of bringing back Smith, or giving Barden his shot as a #3, plus there’s still Hixon (if his knee heals).
Ross is decent but not worth big money, if you can bring him back without a big pay do it, but if you have to choose between him and Thomas, PAY THOMAS! he was our best CB coming into this season, plus he’s younger then Ross (not by much but still younger); and def’n a much better coverage defender. Plus we still got Michael Coe, Witherspoon (both hurt during the season) and Prince.
Simply put thx for the good years Kareem, but its time to change up the OLine and go with youth and let them grow; I’d like to see what Petrus, Boothe could do – Diehel, Beatty, Baas, Snee, Petrus starting with Andrews, Ugoh providing depth, maybe draft an
Oline man in the the 2nd/3rd rd, or through FA.\
Bring back the machine – Weatherford, he makes me not miss Feagles..and he’s still so young!! what a season he had, dropping balls inside the 20 with some serious consistency and continuing to punt us out of trouble!
As for DT, thx Rocky but man your way overpaid, and the way Linval played this season and with Miles Austin (hopefully staying healthy) we got some great depth and youth rolled into 1.
ok Disagree with most of the points
Agree on Oline—-
TT will not be better than Ross this year.It takes 2 years to healthy
Weatherford is a shoe in.
Rocky took a pay cut this year and he is playing for lot lesser money than he was supposed to get.
and Miles Austin plays for Cowboys….I know I know…Marvin Austin has to be prove he is better now he is two years out of football.
Ham will be missed big time when he leaves….Barden cudnt do anything against Jets not even cromartie. My best guess is its either Dan de palma or JJ.
Beatty
OLine play got much better once Diehl was back at T. Not nearly as excited as I was last offseason.
Focus on Mario and Osi
Weatherford ain’t going anywhere, he loves rubbing it in Westphal’s face too much to leave NY.
And the rest of this will take care of itself, ain’t worried about the secondary (Prince will be fine) the Rb’s (Jacobs or no they didn’t contribute heavily this year and probably won’t next year) TE’s (there will be something done in FA or the draft) or the Oline (bye bye Mac, and IMO Diehl hello Beatty Petrus Brewer and a Free Agent. That’s why we have Reese, he’ll have all the holes patched up good enough to start the season.
Moneys saved should be used on the top priorities Osi, and Manningham. It’d be heartbreaking to loose either of them.
You down wit JPP?
I got 99 problems but a Vick ain't one!
Best team in the league
at the end with the most depth, but something always happens. 87 the strike. 91 tuna walks. 08 plax shoots himself. Should be a strong contender again with the usual great JR draft.
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