New York Giants News And Notes: Terrell Thomas Hopes To Return
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Terrell Thomas wants to return to the champs | New York Daily News
"Obviously we’ve got to get the job done, but I definitely want to come back to the Giants," Thomas said. "Why wouldn’t I want to come back to the Super Bowl champs? I’d be a fool to leave right now."
Are the Giants the best organization in the NFL? | National Football Post
The Giants won their fourth Super Bowl championship since 1987 on Sunday. They have been in five Super Bowls in that period with the only loss being to Baltimore in January 2001. Why are the Giants so consistently good? Because in my opinion they are without a doubt the best organization in the NFL. ...
The Giants have won 8 NFL championships, third behind Green Bay with 13 and Chicago with 9. I'm sure there will be many more because of the way they do business. They truly are the Flagship Franchise in the National Football League.
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"Let them say what they want to say, but I have two Super Bowl rings to show of what I’m capable of doing," he said. "Otherwise, I don’t think this would’ve happened."
Willis: Eli Manning, Justin Tuck are Giants’ new leaders following footsteps of Lawrence Taylor and Phil Simms - NYPOST.com
They were the only players to speak yesterday, the only real Giants that addressed fans in New York and New Jersey and thanked them for being along for this wonderful ride.
If there was any question about who led these 2011 Giants to an unexpected Super Bowl win and who will lead them in the future, they were answered during yesterday’s day of celebration.
Justin Tuck and Eli Manning are the faces of the franchise now, the faces of this era that includes two Super Bowl victories and counting. They are to these Giants what Lawrence Taylor and Phil Simms were when the Giants won their first Super Bowl 25 years ago: one black, one white, one offense, one defense, working together to mold a championship team.
Peyton: 'No envy whatsoever' toward Eli's rings - NFL - Sporting News
Now that Eli leads Peyton 2-1 in championships, does that make the older brother jealous?
"Eli and I don’t play that game," Peyton Manning told SN Colts correspondent Mike Chappell of the Indianapolis Star. "The relationship of Eli, (oldest brother) Cooper and I is not about trying to rub it in or anything like that. It’s about love, nothing but love.
"I couldn’t be happier for Eli, prouder of Eli. I want nothing but the best for him. I think he will continue to win more Super Bowls. There is no envy whatsoever in our relationship. He deserves this."
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eli's completion percentage of his career of 58.4% isnt a HOF number
well if that 58 percent of passes wins us games, ill take it
"I like prime rib, and I'd love to win a Super Bowl" -Andy Reid
"11 guys playing as 1 are HARD to beat" -Justin Tuck
And what makes this year even more special
Is if you look at the Superbowl winning quarterbacks (go back 25 years or so,) you might find a couple that you could say the team’s success that season was in spite of the quarterback. You will mostly find teams that had a championship year with their quarterback. What you don’t see much of are teams that had a championship year because of their quarterback.
I think it’s fair to say that Peyton’ carried his championship team on his back, and I think it is fair to say that Eli carried this team on his back. They may have only won nine regular season games this year, but of those, how many of them did the team rely on Eli to cover for the lack of a running game and also run a last minute drive to win?
What I’m trying to say, is that when the career is done, this particular season will count a lot more than what the statistics will say if you just look at them on a sheet of paper.
Joe Namath is a HOFer. Look at his stats. You will not argue f Eli is or is not anymore looking at those.
Well...if you're Kurt Warner then Namath doesn't count because that was a "different time"
If you’re NOT Kurt Warner then I probably still respect your opinion. I get his argument but he put up his numbers in THIS time, too. So, what’s good for the goose should be good for the…Cardinal.
The Cardinals...who were "lucky" they were handed the NFC Championship Game
Ask and you shall receive!!
nywins42 = nywins46
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Kurt is still being personal with his responses
Any other QB or team and he would have changed his response
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
Unless his name
is FAV-RA! LOL!
Ricky Williams retired....Cue up Bob Marley,
"Excuse me while I light my spliff"...
earlier this season I said Warner had a chip about Eli replacing him
and other commenters argued Warner was an Eli supporter.
But I had been watching him do his QB rankings all year, every week, and I could smell it. Warner was late to the party recognizing what Eli was doing this year. And he has admitted he was upset when he lost his job to Eli, and could not believe Eli was having such bad rookie games when he thought he himself gave the team the best chance to win.
Warner understands the reasoning behind the change, intellectually, but emotionally? He’s still carrying that chip on his shoulder.
Now everyone will say Eli is in Bradys class. F*ck me
by PatNation85 on Nov 6, 2011 4:31 PM PST
Warner has no good feelings towards Eli.
This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.
I'm so torn. I don't like Warner right now, but I promised that I would forever be in his debt
for kicking the igglets to the curb that year they had a shout at the ’Blow
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 9, 2012 9:05 AM EST up reply actions
I don't have a problem with Warner's comments
I think he was fair and I don’t think he’s bitter. If it’s just rings then he’s in. If it’s regular season stats then he needs a few more years like this one, imho. I think he’ll have them quite frankly.
To me this argument is way premature just like it was for Roethlisberger the last few years.
"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning
Crunked and Swagged out since 2011
"Let’s go out there like a bunch of crazed dogs and have some fun!" - The one and only LT
Agreed
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 9, 2012 9:13 AM EST up reply actions
No problem with objectivity of the comments themselves...just the subjectivity with which they were conveyed
“Not even close” to being a HOF. “Ridiculous” to think he’s close to Peyton.
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 9, 2012 9:14 AM EST up reply actions
Agreed
If it was “it’s still too soon, let him play out his career,” I’d have no problem with it.
by soulless chimney on Feb 9, 2012 9:20 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Good point
I wasn’t really focusing on the “Not even close” and “Ridiculous” parts. That is a bit harsh I agree.
The funny thing about Warner too though, if he says the dip in his performance while he was with the Giants was due to the supporting cast well then who did Eli play with for a few years before it got turned over?
"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning
Crunked and Swagged out since 2011
"Let’s go out there like a bunch of crazed dogs and have some fun!" - The one and only LT
Exactly.
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 9, 2012 9:31 AM EST up reply actions
I see it like this...Eli isn't in right now but
We have to take into account some outside factors when looking at Eli’s numbers over the past few years. Burress, injuries, and horrible defenses pretty much had Eli mired in mediocrity. If Burress doesn’t pop himself and the Giants repeat then we wouldn’t even be having this discussion.
Ask and you shall receive!!
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Problem is, the peeps who vote for HOFs don't remember or care about the circumstances at the time.
You are eligible 5 years after you retire. After that, no one will remember…they’ll just look at the dude from their lens.
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 9, 2012 9:25 AM EST up reply actions
Eli was on his way into the HOF based on numbers and that first trophy
just by way of playing out his career. So now by playing out his career and a 2nd trophy, he’s a lock.
THere’s not many QBs with 2 trophies (that played in both games, Phil) that can match his numbers and not be in the hall.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
Yup Phil's injuries kibosh him
The early ones squelched his stats and the late one makes him look replaceable (Hoss wasn’t that good in the playoffs)
It’s unfortunate, Phil is in Kelly’s class.
Eli is our King!
The thing I don't understand is he was signing Eli's praises leading up to the game...right?
Was he hedging his bets by speaking well of Eli while assuming he would lose the game so he could still look complimentary towards the Giants/Eli?
Ask and you shall receive!!
nywins42 = nywins46
Who enjoyed a parade like us? NOOOOOOOBODY!
Let us face it
Warner does not Eli at all. When people are singing praise for Eli, Warner is the one raising anti-Eli banner. He already has started the campaign against Eli going into HOF. Why would someone go out of their way to do all this huh? This is right after Eli wins his 2nd superbowl. Warner is not a friend of Eli.
This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.
If Eli had sat out the first year or two, like say, Aaron Rodgers,
then the career passing completion % would be more respectable.
It’s silly to reflect on a man’s career when he is smack dab in the middle of it. Let’s tally up the numbers when he walks off the field for the last time.
And, for now, let’s look forward to making 2012 better from a wins and losses standpoint than 2011.
QB passing records for yards or TDs and League MVPs are great, but I think Drew Brees, Aaron Rodgers, Tom Brady and Peyton Manning would have exchanged those honors for another Ring.
Meanwhile, Tony Romo's dream comes true
http://www.star-telegram.com/2012/02/08/3721586/tony-romo-the-good-golfer-vs-elite.html
I can imagine the scene in the Romo household. “Bye Honey, I’m going out of town to hang out with my buddy the world famous millionaire connosieur of whores. See you Monday.”
Blue is the color of melancholy and honesty
Green is the color of inexperience, envy and nausea.
LMAO
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 9, 2012 8:54 AM EST up reply actions
lol
New York Giants 2011 Super Bowl Champions = FACT
The NFL will now FEAR THE LOWERCASE ny
by The Always Well Dressed... on Feb 9, 2012 10:16 AM EST up reply actions
It's good to hear from alot of the players that they want to stay with the Giants..
That also was a nice gesture by the Jets…Somebody is that organization has class..And Peyton pretty much echoed what I commented on….There is no rivalry…just brotherly love..That’s why they are so good..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
I hope they are All In
I really would love to have TT and Ross back for next year. Along with tyron cwebb rolle and prince. That would be very nice back field in the defense. TT is a big gamble because of his injury I am sure the Giants are watching what is happen there.
Even if there was rivaly (which I don't think there is)
You know Peyton wanted his l’il bro to beat Brady in Petyon’s house.
"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning
Crunked and Swagged out since 2011
"Let’s go out there like a bunch of crazed dogs and have some fun!" - The one and only LT
Wow, just when your respect for the JETS...
falls to an all time low, they go and do something that makes it rise a couple of notches. kudos to the Jets organization for showing that they do have class even though a few bad apples in the bunch do not.
If you want to argue that Manning is a) not a great quarterback or b) not the best quarterback in franchise history your credibility is automatically shot.
by LoNJDTechnology on Feb 9, 2012 7:53 AM EST via Android app reply actions
They only did it because
It had multiple pages covering it up
by Pinstripes&BigBlue on Feb 9, 2012 8:20 AM EST reply actions
Off topic question
Who gets paid an SB share?
53 roster plus who else? PS players, IR players?
All the Giants should play like Mark Bavaro.
TQ, DD and KMac Must Go!
TC, PF, KG, will stay but should go for the long term good.
It is equally worthless when people are always optimistic or always pessimistic. Either way I take their opinion with a pound of salt because I know they only have one setting. I post my own thoughts, not what either side wants to read.
Dunno
But I’m pretty sure it’s just the 53 since its compensation for playing in the game itself in lieu of salary.
Blue is the color of melancholy and honesty
Green is the color of inexperience, envy and nausea.
Im pretty sure every player gets payed
but players on the 53 man roster get more money, while people on the PS get like half of that amount
Team votes they can give anyone a share
They could give Uncle Fester a share for his daily swaggar
Eli is our King!
!st off
NY Foot Ball Giants 2012 World Champs!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Why is Tom Quinn still here? I loves me some Coach Clawfin.
Lmao!
If you want to argue that Manning is a) not a great quarterback or b) not the best quarterback in franchise history your credibility is automatically shot.
by LoNJDTechnology on Feb 9, 2012 8:38 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
We won the Super Bowl last night!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Does that count as a repeat?
Ask and you shall receive!!
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2nd Great read on the Giants organization
We are the best from top to bottom. I am so happy I am a Giants fan!
Why is Tom Quinn still here? I loves me some Coach Clawfin.
I liked that piece too
I’ve always known that the Giants are a classy, stable organization, but it’s nice to see it quantified in print.
by soulless chimney on Feb 9, 2012 9:09 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Giants
Are 1 of the top 5 organization of all time in any sport ! Oh & bye the way , SB 47 hmmm I think if next season has the same progress as 08 we won’t Shoot ourselves again
kinda sorta almost in a slight way,think this team is gonna be special ,but dont quote me on it .....im drunk
by Mr.Williams on Feb 9, 2012 8:50 AM EST via mobile reply actions
I hope TT is back and by all accounts he will be
I think Goff is our #1 priority followed closely by TT @ #2
Ham will get a competitive and respectable offer, I think Reese really likes his WR trio but i also think Carolina and SF will be after Mario.
Chase blackburn is high on the list, probably this years Kevin Boothe in a sense.
David Diehl as much as i would like to cut him, id rather flip him to RT when Beatty gets back because K Mack has seen his last game as a Giant.
My surprise move of the year will be that Chris Canty gets cut if he doesnt restructure, but i imagine he will if he’s smart.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
Like everything you said except Goff
I know this is a running debate around here, and I am in the minority, but I would not give Goff the #2 priority. Just a competitive contract and, if he leaves, so be it. I think we should draft a stud LB in one of the first 2 rounds and stick with what we have.
Really like your idea about Diehl. No doubt he is a tough dude and might do well on the right side of the line. Draft an OT with the other of the first two round picks and groom him behind Diehl or Beatty. Really hope Canty would restructure and I think he will.
Husker/Giants/Mets fan living behind enemy lines.
the thing about Goff (and Thomas)
is that them going on IR might make them cheap enough to resign, possibly even for multiple years. If they played throught the SB run and were FAs, there’s no way we resign them, not with ignorant teams like the Jaguars giving $50 million to players like Pozlusny who aren’t any better then Goff.
Diehl needs to restructure, not Canty. Diehl’s due $8million next year and there’s no way he gets that. Canty’s at least performed up to his contract.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
IDK man, i think Diehl has actually earned his money more than Canty
Who thought Diehl would play that well at LT? and with a broken hand it kind of explains why he was being beat down by DT’s inside.
Canty played well in a 4 game stretch in whcih the whole team played well, I think Linval has already reached his level and is more consistent than Chris.
I like Canty but not at that price, i say he restructures or gets cut, with Marvin Awesome coming back it wouldnt be that hard to let him leave. Rocky played just as well as Chris and thats sad because Canty has the “potential” to be one of the best DT’s but he simply is not.
Of course im in favor of drafting Alameda Ta’amu from washington in the first round to supplement the loss of Canty.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
If we were going to draft a DT...I'd go with Brandon Thompson, Michael Brockers, or Devon Still
Ta’amu is a 1 tech, same as Linval. Rocky and Canty played 3 tech most of the time if I’m not mistaken. Though this past SB, Linval did get some reps as a one-gap pass rusher…
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 9, 2012 9:20 AM EST up reply actions
Is Linval a 1 tech?, seems like he excels more at 3 tech IMO
They all played both actually, it really gave me chance to see who was good at what and they all were good at both and the stats show that.
What really stuck out to me though was how good Linval played at 3 tech, he is more of a pass rusher than i think anyone thought, he misses alos but ive seen great hand work and even a spin move once or twice, Linval is our best DT at this point IMO.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
I kind of like this kid Akiem Hicks
Small school prospect but is 6’ 5", 324lb and runs a “4.98” 40. currently slated to go in the 4th or 5th round. Sounds like a Reese guy plus his name reminds me of another Giants player dominating right now. This is all the info I could find on him though.
National FootBall Post’s Wes Bunting on Akiem Hicks:
“Looks the part of a standout defensive lineman at nearly 6-5, 325 pounds. Possesses a long set of arms (35 1/8) and a thick lower half. Showcases impressive initial burst off the snap for his size and has the power on his bull rush and the length to routinely gain leverage and simply overwhelm. He also exhibits “plus” short area quickness for a guy his size.
He does get upright at times and will stall out when an opposing lineman is able to get under his frame. Doesn’t do a great job using his length to shed through contact, will pop upright and is still figuring the game out. Has a tendency to get straight-legged when trying to shed and doesn’t have a real significant pass rushing arsenal.
However, he has the skill set to not only make an NFL roster, but also mature into a solid contributor with some experience in either a 34 or 43 front.
Was a former LSU recruit who left the program following an NCAA investigation. Is a former JUCO kid and there are some off the field concerns as well.
Impression: Has the size, power, first step and length to be an NFL lineman. Needs to work at his trade, but is an ideal mid/late round boom or bust type guy."
by Gmen_Fan_Forever on Feb 9, 2012 4:30 PM EST up reply actions
I wonder if people will wonder why we have two Akeem Hickses
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
Akiem Hicks and Hakeem Nicks?
Sign me up!
Diehl played terribly
Canty played well all year.
Ta’amu plays as soft as his stomach. He’s 340lbs but plays much much smaller.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
This...
Diehl was a liability at times.
Ask and you shall receive!!
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Liability? Understatement
That is like saying Bobbi drinks a beer every few months, Fester posts interesting gifs, R44 has opinions and I am getting old but not better looking.
Diehl was only superseded by KMac in his frequent horrible play. You’d think he accepted a contract on Eli.
Kmac has to go (an absolute!) and Diehl should be restructured and become a sub if we can back fill. They are both far past their playing ability.
If we don’t make these changes, Eli will end up on IR. That would be very bad.
All the Giants should play like Mark Bavaro.
TQ, DD and KMac Must Go!
TC, PF, KG, will stay but should go for the long term good.
It is equally worthless when people are always optimistic or always pessimistic. Either way I take their opinion with a pound of salt because I know they only have one setting. I post my own thoughts, not what either side wants to read.
by UnknownJintsFan on Feb 9, 2012 9:30 AM EST up reply actions
Kmac is a FA, so we probably don't keep him around. Diehl unfortunately stays, cause we have nobody to play RT
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 9, 2012 9:32 AM EST up reply actions
Diehl isn't a RT
you can’t just make a man play 3 diffrent positions on the line if this guy has problems playing on his normal side of the line how can he be able to play tackle on the other side? Giants will bring in a RT in no doubt. I want Diehl gone he’s not worth his contract.
He ain't much in the way of a pass rusher, but he's a nice run stuffer.
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 9, 2012 9:26 AM EST up reply actions
Canty played okay
Diehl played bad at Guard but played well at LT
why would you say Ta Amu played soft?? and he’s 340 and plays way more athletic than his size would suggest. Soft players dont end up on the Steelers short list of replacements for Casey Hampton.
Your a Canty fan and so am i but lets be objective here, he was part of that bad run defense and that falls on the tackles in a sense….. Canty is good but not worth that check. no way. He also had all that parade talk but it was Linval ballin, he was getting stoned for most of the superbowl game.
And no he wasnt doubled more than Linval.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
he's not on the Steelers list to replace Hampton.
he’s not a NT. And if a 340lbs player is not a NT, he’s soft.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
Of course you once told me Beckum was just as tough as Bradshaw
So i guess our evaluation of toughness differs slightly.
You got it……. lets see who drafts this soft 340 pounder.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
I never said that.
actually you just did.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
Oh boy, of course you didnt
Im sure someone else will remeber that you did. it was something to the extent of Becks playing through injury like Shaw does or something but cool, amnesia works, no worries.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
I think Ta'amu would be good value at the bottom of round 2....no doubt he goes before that.
I’m a big Canty fan, and I think the problem with run defense is the inability to stack the edge by our DEs. JPP and Osi both struggled. I saw relatively big runs up the middle. Some of the big ones up the middle had a DE playing inside rather than the big uglies.
I still don’t think we’d go 2nd round DT a 3rd year in a row…though if an insane value falls to us, you never know I guess.
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 9, 2012 9:36 AM EST up reply actions
Nothing wrong with that evaluation BBI
Bottom of round 2 is right but we are not as needy as some make us out to be so IMO if a player of that size and power is their at the end of round 1 which isnt that expensive anymore, we have a good chance of pulling the trigger.
This guy has spent his college career being trippled, if he get a guy like that in the middle, how can a team double our ends or stop our backers?
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
and the run defense was terrible
cuz Fewell had JPP and Tollefson as the DTs for most of the game. When Canty and Joseph were allowed to play more it was easy to see how the run game improved.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
Canty and Joseph were in on 1st and 2nd down most of the time
and we still were horrible…… JPP and Tolly were not in on run downs at tackles unless it was like 2nd and 13 or something. Yes they got gashed in those packages but we got gashed in all packages.
Run defense improved when people made up their minds especially Canty and Joseph.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
Guys the scheme was designed to force them to run
To keep it out of Brady’s hands Their running game was mediocre. They and some good runs and many not so good. The stats bear it out. Black and white versus gray gentleman.
And JMHO – BB made a mistake not putting the ball in Brady’s hands more. He only had two good drives, but still he was their best player, BJGE really didn’t help them that much, sometimes reward trumps risk
Eli is our King!
We won we won we won we won the Superbowl
This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.
Goff will be relatively cheap thats why he is the #1 priority
And What Chase has done for our defense shows what Goff could have been for us. Intelligence at the Mike spot is clearly what made the most difference, Goff brings that and he also brings more athleticism, power and anticipation than Chase.
Goff will stay, him and TT will accept Kiwi type deals or 1 year deals in order to re establish their true worth. Sad to say but those Knee injuries might have been the best thing to happen to Reese because now it makes them easier to resign.
Sad but true.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
Well, if Goff will be relatively cheap
Then he is not a #1 or #2 priority. TT is the #1 priority, I would say Ham would be next, followed by Goff and others. I am not saying to throw the bank at Ham, but give him a competitive contract and see if he stays. My overall all point is that a lot of people put stock in Goff, and I just do not see it from one year of solid MLB play. He never wowed me.
Husker/Giants/Mets fan living behind enemy lines.
Thats what will happen with HAM
No doubt about it but it will be up to him and what the market brings him.
Goff being cheap and him filling a starting role on this defense makes him the # priority.
TT as well but we do have others at the CB spot ready to go so thats why i made him the close #2 priority.
I pay real close attention to defensive players and i can say without a doubt Goff wows me and no he is not flashy but when you talk about mistake free play from a middle backer, Goff is awesome, i understand your opinion for sure but i think Goff is the guy at MIKE, no doubt about it.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
Always respect your opinion Blue Gates
And I hope you are right, would love to have a young MLB we can rely on for years to come. I just have not seen it yet and I saw all the games Goff started before getting injured.
Husker/Giants/Mets fan living behind enemy lines.
Am I the only one that thinks we can't assume Goff's knee is as healed as TT
If Goff is gimpy, and I could swear I saw him limp across the stage at City Hall ceremony, they might offer him an SS12 deal, who knows where it goes from there.
Eli is our King!
Yes we have too many people limping right now.
This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.
Ham
I wouldn’t go more than 2 years. TT’s contract will be more incentive laden I believe.
He had ACL surgery on the same knee back at USC, similar to Kiwi’s deal this year.
I would bring back Goff as well. Chase did a good enough as a stopgap to keep for ST.
Now, here is my list on who can go: Mack, Jake, Osi (won’t be happy as situational player),
Beckum, Barden, Sintim, and most likely Ross (if TT is signed).
If you have TT, you have Prince and you can bring back Tyron as well. I believe the G-Men control
his rights?
Ricky Williams retired....Cue up Bob Marley,
"Excuse me while I light my spliff"...
I agree on
Sintim, Beckum, Ross.
Osi not so much so, I was one of those who wanted him traded but I think something can be worked out …I guess winning the SB may have soften his stance. Just saying. Beside he is a helluva rusher.
Won't be happy
as a situational player, he wanted a new deal this year with no leverage…
Ricky Williams retired....Cue up Bob Marley,
"Excuse me while I light my spliff"...
I'm just gonna point out
Osi and JR have talked about him staying in NY, I’m not sure we know anything about how Osi will behave. He changes his behavior multiple times a season
Eli is our King!
Maybe
he is bi-polar?
Ricky Williams retired....Cue up Bob Marley,
"Excuse me while I light my spliff"...
It's just Osi.
He can get impatient and the non off season made him ansty.
This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.
You missed
the sarcasm, LOL!
Ricky Williams retired....Cue up Bob Marley,
"Excuse me while I light my spliff"...
by Great Gatsby on Feb 9, 2012 11:02 PM EST up reply actions
What to do with...
I guess Beckum, Ballard wont be on the roster next season.
Barden and JJ either could be gone if we see DDP ( Dan DePalma) step up his game.
D Grant will prob. be cut
Chase must be resigned
and what to do with David Carr?
yea but tell who is he...never heard of him
what to do now football season is done......sigh.smh.wtf
HOLD ON WHATS DAT LIN-MANIA HOLDS THE CITY
jeremy lin will be a kool distraction until the nfl draft
Practice Squad WR that looks like Lawrence Tynes.
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 9, 2012 9:26 AM EST up reply actions
whats his potential
whats his bio
ht wt etc
what to do now football season is done......sigh.smh.wtf
HOLD ON WHATS DAT LIN-MANIA HOLDS THE CITY
jeremy lin will be a kool distraction until the nfl draft
Don't know too much about him.
He was present at the summer workouts organized by Eli. He worked with the defense in the superbowl by being “Wes Welker”….he’s a slot guy that’s got decent speed an undersized.
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 9, 2012 9:37 AM EST up reply actions
5-11 and 195 lbs, 4.44 40 speed
Don’t know much but this seems like a JJ12 type. Might be good. 20 bench reps, good for a receiver.
All the Giants should play like Mark Bavaro.
TQ, DD and KMac Must Go!
TC, PF, KG, will stay but should go for the long term good.
It is equally worthless when people are always optimistic or always pessimistic. Either way I take their opinion with a pound of salt because I know they only have one setting. I post my own thoughts, not what either side wants to read.
by UnknownJintsFan on Feb 9, 2012 10:44 AM EST up reply actions
DDP will have to have a Cruz like preseason game to have any shot at displacing Barden or JJ
Eli is our King!
if he gets anybody's spot I think it's Hixon's
I think our receiver’s will end up being Cruz, Nicks, Jernigan, Barden, Thomas, Depalma, and some body else be it Manningham, some free agent, or a draft pick. But with those six you have, big play guys, shifty slot guys, a few big possession type receivers, special team guys, returners, and overall good talent and athleticism. Not to mention only one of them is over 25, and that’s Barden at 26. I think no matter who’s in that last spot we will be ok at receiver next year
by Gmen_Fan_Forever on Feb 9, 2012 8:03 PM EST up reply actions
He is in practice squad and has been called upon to portray opposing WRs styles in practice. This may be good because he can emulate several styles.
This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.
Beckum and or Ballard most likely go on IR
there’s really no reason to cut either. IR does’t take up a roster spot and they both obviously have a reason to be IR’d. You keep them and let them get healthy for 2013.
Barden’s going nowhere. There’s really no reason to let him go, the #3 WR spot is open. Jernigan’s a 2nd year player. Not a chance in hell he’s going anywhere.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
Beckum
He gone!
Ricky Williams retired....Cue up Bob Marley,
"Excuse me while I light my spliff"...
just like Granderson, I know
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
LOL
One guy has made one play in 3 years. Barden can join him too!
Ricky Williams retired....Cue up Bob Marley,
"Excuse me while I light my spliff"...
This coming from a guy
who thought Giants were paying Rolle to be on WFAN each Tuesday.
Sorry bub, no creds with me, LMAO!
Ricky Williams retired....Cue up Bob Marley,
"Excuse me while I light my spliff"...
they are.
and I couldn’t care any less what you have.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
According to a Philly beat writer...Plaxico really wants to go to Philly. Guess he REALLY doesn't want another ring.
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 9, 2012 9:16 AM EST up reply actions
I think they still have to pay Beckum on IR
and as usual, you and I differ.
I don’t see him having done enough and been durable enough.
Ballard, Pascoe and a draftee/FA at TE next year.
All the Giants should play like Mark Bavaro.
TQ, DD and KMac Must Go!
TC, PF, KG, will stay but should go for the long term good.
It is equally worthless when people are always optimistic or always pessimistic. Either way I take their opinion with a pound of salt because I know they only have one setting. I post my own thoughts, not what either side wants to read.
by UnknownJintsFan on Feb 9, 2012 9:16 AM EST up reply actions
Ballard after PUP that is
All the Giants should play like Mark Bavaro.
TQ, DD and KMac Must Go!
TC, PF, KG, will stay but should go for the long term good.
It is equally worthless when people are always optimistic or always pessimistic. Either way I take their opinion with a pound of salt because I know they only have one setting. I post my own thoughts, not what either side wants to read.
by UnknownJintsFan on Feb 9, 2012 9:17 AM EST up reply actions
pay him sure, but roster spot no.
its not just you and I, its you and the Giants. Other then your personal bias against him, is there any reason to cut him? It was obvious he was more included in the offense as the year went on so they like him. And storing a player on IR for a year is something the Giants have done before.
There’s no reason not to keep him. Ballard too, don’t get your hopes up on that one. He tore his ACL. That takes a full year to get even at 3/4 strength. It happened in February.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
Not a personal bias on my end, bias on yours.
You have an ongoing love affair with who he was in college. That has not proved to translate to NFL.
He just is not the player we had hoped and time to cut ties. No production, too many injuries. He was injured catching a ball for Pete’s sake!
Cut him and use the money elsewhere. That is the reason. He has not proven any worth to date. Potential means nothing if you cannot deliver in 3 years.
Save money, pay someone else.
All the Giants should play like Mark Bavaro.
TQ, DD and KMac Must Go!
TC, PF, KG, will stay but should go for the long term good.
It is equally worthless when people are always optimistic or always pessimistic. Either way I take their opinion with a pound of salt because I know they only have one setting. I post my own thoughts, not what either side wants to read.
by UnknownJintsFan on Feb 9, 2012 9:36 AM EST up reply actions
he's not even making $1million.
and Ballard was injured not catching a ball, so again…that’s your bias. I have no bias for or against Beckum, just pretty much seeing what the Giants will do. They’re not the type of organization that cuts a player they obviously like because of injury. Especially if they can just place him on IR.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
Dude, read above
It was BECKUM that was injured catching a ball earlier in the year, not Ballard.
They did cut several guys this year and give injury settlements. I think Sage and Stokley were two of them.
All the Giants should play like Mark Bavaro.
TQ, DD and KMac Must Go!
TC, PF, KG, will stay but should go for the long term good.
It is equally worthless when people are always optimistic or always pessimistic. Either way I take their opinion with a pound of salt because I know they only have one setting. I post my own thoughts, not what either side wants to read.
by UnknownJintsFan on Feb 9, 2012 9:43 AM EST up reply actions
so was Manningham
so was Nicks. And it doesn’t matter.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
Exactly - no reason to cut them
"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning
Crunked and Swagged out since 2011
"Let’s go out there like a bunch of crazed dogs and have some fun!" - The one and only LT
Ballard
They can sign if they want, if not ready, put on PUP list, after 6 weeks, on the roster OR they can
put on IR….Even if he doesn’t play next year, shown enough to keep around, I believe.
Ricky Williams retired....Cue up Bob Marley,
"Excuse me while I light my spliff"...
Think of all the injuries and the SB win is even more amazing
We lost our best corner and about 150 backup CBs. Then backup DT who had much promise. Then our starting MLB. Then starting LT. Starting running back and WRs out several times.
And we lost our starting slot and TE.
The more I think about it, the more it amazes me. I trash TC a great deal but really, this was a wonder season. I hope the magic continues next year.
BTW, I think Bernard is as likely cut as Canty. Just for money.
All the Giants should play like Mark Bavaro.
TQ, DD and KMac Must Go!
TC, PF, KG, will stay but should go for the long term good.
It is equally worthless when people are always optimistic or always pessimistic. Either way I take their opinion with a pound of salt because I know they only have one setting. I post my own thoughts, not what either side wants to read.
Forgot Hixon
Our likely #4 receiver and PR/KR went down too.
Winning the SB does take some luck but if we go less than 12-4 next season, barring Eli going down, I will be surprised.
All the Giants should play like Mark Bavaro.
TQ, DD and KMac Must Go!
TC, PF, KG, will stay but should go for the long term good.
It is equally worthless when people are always optimistic or always pessimistic. Either way I take their opinion with a pound of salt because I know they only have one setting. I post my own thoughts, not what either side wants to read.
by UnknownJintsFan on Feb 9, 2012 9:14 AM EST up reply actions
I do see next season as the potential to be like 2008
A team that knew they could win and put all the pieces together. Hopefully the vets talk to the younger guys about staying hungry and focused and out of trouble and they can make a run.
"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning
Crunked and Swagged out since 2011
"Let’s go out there like a bunch of crazed dogs and have some fun!" - The one and only LT
Out of trouble...
I think all of the trouble makers are gone. Luckily, I do not see Cruz as the type to bring a glock into a strip club. Let’s also not draft any troublemakers either. Been nice having the Gmen in the news for playoff runs and SBs.
Husker/Giants/Mets fan living behind enemy lines.
cruz is like a little kid out there
hes just happy to be playing and he goes crazy when we win. ill take a guy who hoots and hollers to have fun as opposed to the plaxico type
"I like prime rib, and I'd love to win a Super Bowl" -Andy Reid
"11 guys playing as 1 are HARD to beat" -Justin Tuck
I see a good 2012 season coming our way and we will reverse the bEast curse and win the division again.
This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.
I think our best corner played all year
Our most active and productive corner was lost.
We did have a ton of hard hits but we found out our depth can really play.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
Why would they cut Canty?
"The saddest thing in life is wasted talent"
by Larry Soprano on Feb 9, 2012 9:51 AM EST up reply actions
His Paycheck
And we have Marvin Austin coming back plus a draft full of DT’s
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
Bernard is an UFA he's technically not on the team
Canty is scheduled to make $6M per the next 3 yrs. He could get cut, but I think next year is more likely. Get Austin on field and proven, and draft another guy this year and train him.
There will be a ton of FAs this year cause of last year, I need to review who is out there, this year could see a ton of player movement. That’s good for us, JR knows who he likes out there, if a guy pops up, he’ll pounce.
Eli is our King!
Very happy for this Super Bowl win
As a fan going thru one of the most exhausting ride this season, only a true fan can handle such a rough season. One game we are on top of the world and the next game you wonder if these guys can beat Hackensack high school. But thats the Giants for you, unpredictable and not pretty. Because of my blood pressure sometimes I wish my team was one of those teams that blow teams out like the Packers so I don’t have to stress so much, but then again that’s what makes the gmen unique
"I like prime rib, and I'd love to win a Super Bowl" -Andy Reid
"11 guys playing as 1 are HARD to beat" -Justin Tuck
by nyg94 on Feb 9, 2012 3:49 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
Frigging Brilliant!!!!...Rec'd!!!!!
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
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