Can The Giants Do it Again? Maybe, Maybe Not
by Ed Valentine on Feb 8, 2012 9:00 AM EST
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The euphoria of the New York Giants' 2012 Super Bowl championship has barely begun to fade. The team and its fans have barely had time to bask in the glow of the franchise's fourth Super Bowl title. Yet, even before Tuesday's victory parade down the Canyon of Heroes and pep rally at MetLife Stadium the talk about next season had already surfaced.
Could the Super Bowl champion Giants do it again next season? Could they do what it looked like they had a chance to do in 2008, when they started fast and were unable to finish? Could they win back-to-back Super Bowl titles?
The Las Vegas oddsmakers certainly don't think so. The Giants are 15-1 to win the 2013 Super Bowl. The New York Jets are only 16-1. The Green Bay Packers are 6-1 choices, the just-vanquished New England Patriots are 7-1. Among other notable choices, the Philadelphia Eagles are 12-1.
Did you really expect anything different? I certainly didn't. Does any of that matter? Not in the least.
Steve Wyche of NFL.com wrote earlier this week about the Giants' chances for a repeat.
Despite the Giants' fairly consistent run over the past few years, a quarterback in Eli Manning who is in his prime and a nice crew of wideouts, Philadelphia or Dallas probably will be the trendy pick to win the NFC East.
New York isn't viewed like the Packers, who, like the Giants, had to scratch and claw their way into the playoffs before winning the Super Bowl last February. Green Bay is a team in its prime that has the quarterback and other elements to fend off improving NFC North competition and all comers from around the league. The Giants, well, they were a team that got hot at the right time. At least that's what you'll hear. New York won't be treated the same as Green Bay, even though their respective quests to a title, personnel and head coaches are similar in terms of results, age and production.
Should they be viewed the same? ...
The Giants better just enjoy things now. They are the deserving champions. No doubt about it. And by the time training camp comes around in the summer, they'll be able to rekindle the "us against the world" mentality that rallied them to this Super Bowl title, because that will be the case again.
All true. And again it probably doesn't matter at all.
Mathias Kiwanuka already voiced what will likely be the opinion of most of the veteran Giants. That being, of course they can win it again.
"If we won it this year, there's no doubt in my mind that we can. We've just got to get in the playoffs. That's it.
"The big thing for us is to get one next year," Kiwanuka said. "We had a great season a couple years ago, and we had a letdown the year after. We've got to make sure that doesn't happen again."
Can the Giants win again? Sure they can. Eli Manning and Tom Coughlin will be back. Victor Cruz and Hakeem Nicks will be back. The defense is loaded with talent and could be bolstered by the return of Terrell Thomas next season and the expected improvement of Prince Amukamara with a full off-season to come.
There are lots of reasons to be optimistic about the Giants next season, and for years to come.
Should they be expected to win it again? Of course not.
The Giants are now defending Super Bowl champions. Are they a dominant team? Hardly. That 9-7 record wasn't a mirage. They rescued a season going backwards just in time, got hot and played their best football when it mattered the most.
We know, of course, that from the point in the season where the Giants had lost five of six to sink to 7-7 that they won six straight games to become champions. At times, they were dominant doing it. In the NFC Championship Game and Super Bowl, though, Lady Luck also smiled upon them.
Without two special teams mistakes by San Francisco punt returner Kyle Williams the Giants don't get to the Super Bowl.
Without an uncharacteristic drop by New England's Wes Welker the Giants probably don't win. They also recovered two of their own fumbles and had a third negated by penality. Lose any of those, they probably lose the game.
So, you have to be lucky as well as good. The ball has to bounce your way, and you have to get some breaks. The Giants got them this time around, and that isn't going to be the case every season.
What is comforting for Giants fans is that you know your team will have a chance. It has a chance every year. There are talented players who know what it takes to win, there is a two-time Super Bowl MVP quarterback and a top-notch coach, there is an excellent front office.
The Giants will be good. That's really all you can ask for.
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Here's hoping for a repeat...
… if not in SB 45, then big-time for SB 46 “AT HOME”
"The Giants goal is to win more championships than the Jets have curtains." - Raptor22
Man - can't add...
Meant 47, and 48 – not 45 and 46…
"The Giants goal is to win more championships than the Jets have curtains." - Raptor22
You know what I cannot wait for...
Super Bowl L, wonder if I will be around to see Super Bowl C
Husker/Giants/Mets fan living behind enemy lines.
If I am not dead by then
I should be…
I got a GIF for that!
Giants by 17 over GB, take it to the bank!
Giants by 10 over SF, take it to the bank! Well, OK, by 3, but we are Super Bowl bound!!!!!!!
Giants will score 30 (correction 21 (damn FG's/failed 2 pt conversion)) or more points, NE 20 or less. Guess who wins? Take it to the bank!
by Fester McDougal on Feb 8, 2012 1:31 PM EST up reply actions
That's why they play the games...
Next
Ricky Williams retired....Cue up Bob Marley,
"Excuse me while I light my spliff"...
"Without two special teams mistakes by San Francisco punt returner Kyle Williams the Giants don't get to the Super Bowl."
Thats not necessarily true. The mistake in overtime just guaranteed that we would win. If he would’ve recovered it, who’s to say we wouldn’t have stopped their offense and scored on our next possession?
And on the first mistake by Kyle Williams, the 49ers should actually be the ones thanking someone. If it wasnt for the refs blowing the whistle, we would’ve scored a touchdown on that play and the entire game would’ve been different.
And if you take away other teams mistakes, you have to take away ours too.
Some of that is true
My point was really only that you have to get some lucky bounces along the way.
I agree Ed
You have to get lucky to get to and win the chip but you better be damn good to.
Why is Tom Quinn still here? I loves me some Coach Clawfin.
and you have to be in a position to capitalize on them
I don’t see anyone talking about New England getting “lucky” against the Ravens.
This luck meme must die. All games involve it. Bringing it up about the Giants is just buying into the New York hate.
Now everyone will say Eli is in Bradys class. F*ck me
by PatNation85 on Nov 6, 2011 4:31 PM PST
Philly got so damn "lucky" that Matt Dodge was an idiot.
yet nobody squawked about that.
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 8, 2012 9:59 AM EST up reply actions
of course, it's all a sham, this "luck" conversation
It’s code for NY hate, pure and simple.
They can’t say the things about Eli they used to say, that he sucks, etc.
So now it’s that the Giants are “lucky.”
I have to admit I expect it at BGN or APC, but not on BBV.
Now everyone will say Eli is in Bradys class. F*ck me
by PatNation85 on Nov 6, 2011 4:31 PM PST
Just to undermine what our team has accomplished is all. Yet in the grand scheme of things, all it will go down as
is the 4th notch in our belt. And its a damn big notch. 4th most Lombardi trophies behind Steelers, Cows, and 9ers. We’re getting near the top.
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 8, 2012 10:11 AM EST up reply actions
Don't undermine the the Team!
I got a GIF for that!
Giants by 17 over GB, take it to the bank!
Giants by 10 over SF, take it to the bank! Well, OK, by 3, but we are Super Bowl bound!!!!!!!
Giants will score 30 (correction 21 (damn FG's/failed 2 pt conversion)) or more points, NE 20 or less. Guess who wins? Take it to the bank!
by Fester McDougal on Feb 8, 2012 10:13 AM EST up reply actions
You guys get too defensive whenever anyone mentions luck. Luck is contributory to why we won the super bowl just like how luck is contributory to any close game. The patriots won 3 super bowls by 3 points. they don’t get lucky they could easily be 0-5 in super bowls. They get lucky and recover our fumbles and they could be 5-0 in super bowls. Its not a reason to discredit a team as any team in the super bowl deserves all of the accolades that come with wining it. But unless you completely blow out the other team, luck will always be a contributory factor in winning
by B-rod24 on Feb 8, 2012 12:41 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
We get defensive because a lot of people extend the luck argument past “yeah, the winner usually gets a few balls that break his way” to “IT’S ALL LUCK THE GIANTS ARE TERRIBLE BRB GOTTA BLOW TONY ROMO.”
by soulless chimney on Feb 8, 2012 12:43 PM EST up reply actions
We won and that is the end of that. Let them make excuses.
This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.
Well yeah, of course luck is a part.
Though the reason people are getting defensive is because we’re being bombarded by opposing fans using “luck” to discredit the Giants. Not giving them their due….but in any case, I think all of us would gladly take that and say “better to be lucky than good”….especially if it means a championship.
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 8, 2012 12:43 PM EST up reply actions
you're absolutely right
but most of the time you hear about luck the person spouting off isn’t intelligent enough to realize one or two plays don’t make a game.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
Speaking of spouting off...
I was reading old fanposts for shits and giggles: http://www.bigblueview.com/2011/12/22/2655181/why-reese-must-go-part-1
Damn, perceptions change real fast
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 8, 2012 12:48 PM EST up reply actions
haven't seen old Mr. LBeezlebub 777 in a while
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
your continuous creativity
with regards to the almighty LB never ceases to amuse.
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 8, 2012 1:02 PM EST up reply actions
he popped in for a cheer
but ya know folks are about 10 times more likely to complain than praise
Eli is our King!
Don't really see luck.
I see guys making plays, jarring the ball loose, and flying to the ball. That shit is mine mentality. You make the play or you don’t. F luck. We are MF’n SUPER BOWL CHAMPS BABY!!!!!!!
Gotta get me a Hynoski jersey!
Now in section 133.
by Last year in Sec 127 on Feb 8, 2012 3:37 PM EST up reply actions
Wasn't replying to you 63
Was just getting flustered about this luck talk.
Now in section 133.
by Last year in Sec 127 on Feb 8, 2012 3:41 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah I know
It takes a really dumb individual to use luck to discredit a team though. As soon as somebody uses that logic I immediately ignore anything further they have to say about sports. Luck is only really a factor in close games against similarly talented teams. If the patriots were better than we were then they should have been able to overcome the bad luck and win the game (much like how we were good enough to overcome all of the bad luck with injuries before and during the season).
Don’t let those types of people bother you though. They’ll come up with any excuse to discredit the win. If its not luck they’ll probably come up with some east coast media bias or how nbc wanted the new york television market so they fixed the games excuse.
by B-rod24 on Feb 8, 2012 1:02 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
well, the Internet is where we get to use media to cut through BS
We had to come to Eli’s defense all year over the “elite” flap, and now the stuff we as fans said 9 months ago are commonplace commentary across the media. But it has to start somewhere, and Eli himself and the team won’t do it.
To me, this whole “luck” thing that is used to discredit the team’s achievements, and which will be used many years from now when some guys are up for HOF, is part of the same thing.
We can’t tackle anybody, but we can tackle bullshit in defense of the team when someone should have their backs. That’s the closest we have to a role on the team, supporting it, and the players who earn the support.
Now everyone will say Eli is in Bradys class. F*ck me
by PatNation85 on Nov 6, 2011 4:31 PM PST
Luck? Teams make their own luck!
I’ve heard the “luck” thing all year as well. It’s a bogus argument at best.
Don’t let them take away from what you guys accomplished with the stupid “luck” thing.
(And yes, that game against you guys still hurts…)
Who's got it better than Honey Badger? Honey Badger don't give a ....
Kaepernick's raw talent + Harbaugh's coaching = Hall of Fame QB
Luck does not equal randomness
Sports include random events that are unpredictable, missed calls, crazy bounces, coaching blunders, the list is long
Luck is when the outcome is totally determined by events outside of anyone’s control. Giants weren’t lucky on Kyle Williams knee muff. His coaches failed, he failed and Devin Thomas made a GREAT PLAY
Coaches – OK so you’re offense was poo, it’s raining all game, the field is for crap, and your using a lightly experienced young PR. TELL HIM either catch it on a fly or run your @$$ off the field. Contrast that with Aaron Ross, our coach risked a guy we can’t win the Super Bowl without, he caught every ball, took the easy cheap yardage, and gave himself up. Our coaches dramatically reduced our risk, New coach genius bit off more than he could chew.
Williams – OK your coaches did a pooey job prepping you, WTF were you thinking? The ball hit the ground, you aren’t going to touch it unless the defense does first. Haul your butt off to the side. Epic brain fail.
Unless you’re arguing that the coaches and Williams had a car accident on the way to the stadium, and suffered a closed head injury it wasn’t luck. It was failure.
Devin Thomas wasn’t lucky. Doesn’t everyone remember this. McNabb fumbles and our team just looks at the ball, like it was an unholy spawn of the devil, to be feared loathed and avoided. Thomas was a prepared motivated player, who capitalized on an opportunity.
Luck is what losers refer to when they want to distance themselves from failure.
Eli is our King!
by trueblue63 on Feb 8, 2012 10:11 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Your last line sums it up perfectly.
Did we have some good bounces? Sure. But so did hte other team. We capitalized while they did not. Call it lucky, I call it opportunistic.
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 8, 2012 10:14 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
There is a reason why the word luck is ubiquitous in Vegas
If you think it thru all the luck they need is people making wagers
Eli is our King!
Yes.
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 8, 2012 1:19 PM EST up reply actions
I think that was a muff and you can't advance it anyway.
There are about a dozen things that broke right for us starting with JPP’s FG block in Dallas (letting a FG get blocked is as big a mistake as a muffed punt IMO). But who’s to say we wouldn’t have have other plays. I agree that sometimes you make your own luck and a lot of what happened was down to that.
Blue is the color of melancholy and honesty
Green is the color of inexperience, envy and nausea.
Ballard's disallowed touchdown....
which led to a regular season loss was luck (of another kind). Ultimately you take the hand you’re given and you either make something of it or you don’t. The Giants did, the Patriots didn’t. I’ve gotta add, i find it amazing that Welker is the “goat” for if he made that catch, it’s an all-time highlight, and if anyone other than Brady threw (looking at you Romo), it’s a bad pass.
I'd also say the 2nd fumble by Williams isn't a mistake
tho I gues one side will call it a mistake, I’ll call it a great play by Jacquain Williams. If you look at the play, if Jacquain misses that tackle, Kyle is gonna run for a real long time.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
First gaff
much more of a mistake, get away from the ball young man,but thanks!
Ricky Williams retired....Cue up Bob Marley,
"Excuse me while I light my spliff"...
It was a great play by J. Williams
Who's got it better than Honey Badger? Honey Badger don't give a ....
Kaepernick's raw talent + Harbaugh's coaching = Hall of Fame QB
I don't think
You can recover a punt and advance the ball, I know on a kickoff the ball is live. But point understood, hey we still had to capitalize on those breaks. Tynes still had to make the kick, Eli still had to drive down the field after Wes welker dropped
New York Knicks '11-'12. lets gooo! ny
by redwhitblue88 on Feb 8, 2012 9:49 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Not a rules expert
but I believe that you can’t advance a muffed punt anyway. A fumbled punt is a live ball, but a muffed punt which is recovered is dead at the spot of the muff.
As longas we got
Eli MFn Manning. You know him 2 time Super Bowl MVP. Hell yeah we got a great chance!! Haters gonna hate.
Why is Tom Quinn still here? I loves me some Coach Clawfin.
of course they can
I can even see them having a sesaon like they did in 2008 or even like the Packers did this season. That means they can. But like those two teams in the year after, will they? Repeating is always tougher. You know you have the talent, but that’s part of the problem, complacency. Also everyone else is gunning for you now.
We’re not losing much even if we lose every single FA. Also if you include Jacobs and Osi in those on their way out, we still have replacements and in Jacobs case, maybe some addition by subtraction (DaRel Scott?).
But the luck factor as with any past champion is one that you can’t expect. Every SB winner’s had some lucky bounces go their way. And when you compare the 2011 Giants with the 2008-10 Giants, I really cant’ see much difference. But those teams really got some bad bounces along the way. Tipped balls, miracles, stupid fumbles, catch the damn ball, blown coverages, CC Brown. Stuff happened that was unlucky. This year we got some bounces our way and considering the talent here and how close every game in the NFL is, we did it.
Gonna be a lot tougher to repeat. There’s that schedule thing too, but hopefully we at least get the friggin Saints in Our House and in the winter.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
We had the the 3rd toughest
Schedule in the league this year so I am not that concerned with having the toughest. We are battle tested
Why is Tom Quinn still here? I loves me some Coach Clawfin.
it should be tougher this year
pretty sure we get the Packers, Saints and Niners again. The division should be improved, and in the AFC we got the Steelers and Ravens, plus the Bungholes aren’t pushovers. I agree, a tough schedule just makes you battle tested, its also a lot tougher.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
Damn straight.
Bring on the best. I wanted the Saints for a second time. Really felt we could have taken it to em.
Now in section 133.
by Last year in Sec 127 on Feb 8, 2012 3:43 PM EST up reply actions
We only got Niners
cuz they played the entire division this season, might not get them next year.
Ricky Williams retired....Cue up Bob Marley,
"Excuse me while I light my spliff"...
AND REVENGE WILL BE OURS!
:-)
Who's got it better than Honey Badger? Honey Badger don't give a ....
Kaepernick's raw talent + Harbaugh's coaching = Hall of Fame QB
Is revenge all that left in that locker room?
This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.
Every SB winner’s had some lucky bounces go their way.
couldn’t have said it better myself.
It’s the nature of the game. Anyone that’s got a problem with that hasn’t gotten lucky enough to see their team win a Championship.
You down wit JPP?
I got 99 problems but a Vick ain't one!
Low Pressure
The best part about this Super Bowl win (and I felt this about the last one too) is that I really can’t expect anything more out of the current Giants incarnation – by which I mean the Eli years, I guess. Yes, I’ll cheer and root for them hard to win every game, and I’ll be hurt/devastated/crushed when they lose, but… I don’t really know how to say it. They’ve satisfied me. If they go on to spend the next three, four, five seasons (or more) getting knocked out of the playoffs early, or going 6-10 and 8-8 or something, I’ll get over it quick.
They won the Super Bowl.
Twice.
This is a gift that keeps on giving, and can sustain me and bring a smile to my face in even the crappiest of times. In my opinion, the Giants are playing the next decade with house money, and God bless em for it.
by twincitiesknick on Feb 8, 2012 9:27 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Nah – gonna expect them to win it each year and be bummed when they don’t. It’s the nature of rooting for your team. And since they have done it, why shouldn’t they do it again. No matter what you have, you always want more. Win another one in the next 3 to 4 year and you’ve got a dynasty. And you make a push to catch Pittsburgh for the most SB’s all-time. I will always cherish the memories of the wins, but always want them to add to those memories.
Manning lobs it, Burress alone, touchdown New York!
For the empty net, Mark Messier... do you believe it?! Do you believe it?! He said we will win game 6 - he has just picked up the hat trick!
Not with this brother.
This team is now on par with 86 & 90. I want more. I have been through way too many poor seasons. This team is capable of making a run to the Championship with Captain Eli at the helm.
Now in section 133.
by Last year in Sec 127 on Feb 8, 2012 3:51 PM EST up reply actions
No one knows if they actually WILL
But I can see them winning a bunch of games in the regular season as the D gets better and healthier. If they play with consistency they lacked about mid season, they will can win about 12 games. They’ll have Victor Cruz for the entire year, and resign Ham. Also had the toughest schedule in football last year, so it can’t get much harder. (Oh, and if theres a TE on the board that played college basketball take him)
Ryan Miller was the true MVP. See my profile for rant.
Well they have the talent, no doubt about that
Plus next year we’ll have guys coming off injuries, and while guys like TT and Goff may no be Giants next year, the guys I’m looking to make a difference are guys like Marvin Austin and Justin Tryon, who was looking pretty good before breaking his arm. Also throw in the draft, and we’ll have the ability. I also feel confident that Coughlin and Manning aren’t the kind of guys that rest on their laurals, they’ll be gunning for another SB win.
Every team get lucky breaks
The Patriots got lucky when the Ravens missed the field goal but no one mentions this. But for the Giants it’s all luck cause we are not competent enough to win games without luck. Every turnover that bounce your way is luck and every team gets their fair share. So yes, luck helps but don’t make it seem Giants could only get here with luck
"lucky" is code word for "I hate New York" in the nfl right now
That’s all it is. It’s a way of saying the Giants were not worthy.
I wish Ed would not inadvertently buy into that framing of the discussion.
Now everyone will say Eli is in Bradys class. F*ck me
by PatNation85 on Nov 6, 2011 4:31 PM PST
AJ, i'm with you
This luck BS needs to stop. It’s all envy, bitterness and true hatred! Surprisingly, what is luck? An undefeated team, or teams that have ridiculous +24 (apeice) TO ratios that are a combined 28-4? What luck does a 9-7 team have? We created and capitalized on what worked for them, but god forbid…
As far as i’m concerned, we made OUR plays, THEY did not. Hmm, a little credit should go our way. Besides, we were only one of 12 deserving teams to make the tournament. Is it concrete to think that the number one seeds are suppose to clash? If so, then why play?!
If you win the lottery, then your lucky considering the odds, but your also lucky if you have ELI, our DL and the spirit to win. Other than that, it’s everyone else’s dumb-freaking-luck!!!
Chalking it up to luck...
…is a weak attempt to explain away all of the stepping up and making big plays.
by Step up and make big plays on Feb 8, 2012 12:49 PM EST up reply actions
yes!
New York Giants 2011 Super Bowl Champions = FACT
The NFL will now FEAR THE LOWERCASE ny
by The Always Well Dressed... on Feb 8, 2012 12:49 PM EST up reply actions
TY, that's the respect the Giants should get...
When it mattered, sooner or later… they Stepped up and made big plays! Isn’t that what your suppose to do?! lol
Ignore them. Haters will hate.
Though I disagree. “Lucky” is a code-word for “The 49ers can’t be that good!”
Who's got it better than Honey Badger? Honey Badger don't give a ....
Kaepernick's raw talent + Harbaugh's coaching = Hall of Fame QB
Well DUH!
The Giants NEVER win. Their opponents lose.
All ESPN has talked about is how the Patriots lost. And the Manningham catch. They don’t mention that Eli is in company with Simms, Montana, and Brees for SB completion percentage. They don’t mention that Tuck is 1 sack shy of holding the SB record… They don’t mention the officiating breaks the Pats caught (ie MM pass interference, or the Boothe “holding” call).
Monday and Tuesday the NFL.com was all about the Patriots. It was just bullshit.
This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.
WHO CARES??? Let me celebrate!!!
Ask and you shall receive!!
nywins42 = nywins46
by nywins46 on Feb 8, 2012 9:39 AM EST reply actions 5 recs
The last guy is surrounded by dog sh!t. Hilarious
I got a GIF for that!
Giants by 17 over GB, take it to the bank!
Giants by 10 over SF, take it to the bank! Well, OK, by 3, but we are Super Bowl bound!!!!!!!
Giants will score 30 (correction 21 (damn FG's/failed 2 pt conversion)) or more points, NE 20 or less. Guess who wins? Take it to the bank!
by Fester McDougal on Feb 8, 2012 10:05 AM EST up reply actions
No those are spots where the passes dropped
This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.
Overserved much?
Priceless
Blue is the color of melancholy and honesty
Green is the color of inexperience, envy and nausea.
I'm lovin it!
Blue is the color of melancholy and honesty
Green is the color of inexperience, envy and nausea.
I love the response on 1st Take:
“Well, why can’t the Giants win the Superbowl next year”
…
(Mangenius, Rob Packer, and Skip Clueless staring blankly at each other)
…
Rob Packer: They only won 9 games this year.
Me: LMAO
Seriously?
We have a 2-time Superbowl MVP QB, we held 3 of the top 10 (7, 1, and 3 respectively) scoring offenses to an average of 7 points a game (corrected for shoddy officiating). This team beat the toughest odds out of ANY Superbowl winning team EVER (their opponents won a combined 51 regular season games, more than any in history).
The defense is going to get healthy. The offensive line will gel. The offense will continue to improve.
This team (the heart of it) beat the odds TWICE in 4 years!!!
I will never doubt again.
Ask and you shall receive!!
nywins42 = nywins46
Most likely 3 in 4 if that dont happen to plex i believe we were 11-1.
by big blue born in philly on Feb 8, 2012 9:53 AM EST up reply actions
Yes. We lost an opportunity to repeat there.
This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.
the reason it's hard to repeat
Is because it’s hard as hell to do it in the first place.
Teams that have done it either mostly had no salary cap or cheated.
The odds of a low probability event happening twice in a row is extremely low. Let’s just assume parity in the league, where everyone has an equal chance to start the year, to make things simple.
With 32 teams, that’s a 3.125% chance of winning the SB in any given year. The next year the odds of last year’s winner coming out on top again are the same. But if you want to predict the odds going into a year of any team winning it the next two years, you take that 3.125% and square it.
Folks, that’s a number near zero.
Now, all teams are not equal going into a season so this thought experiment is imperfect. But the odds are still really, really low.
Now everyone will say Eli is in Bradys class. F*ck me
by PatNation85 on Nov 6, 2011 4:31 PM PST
Why dynasties are a thing of the past.
Free agency and the salary cap make it diffcult for a successful team to maintain dominance over the long haul. Marquee players (like Manningham) hit free agency and it becomes impossible to pay all of your good players what they could get elsewhere. And with the cap, benches are so thin that there’s little margin for error when a key player goes down with an injury. The best you can do is to keep your core players and coaches together as long as you can, and hope that the players you add through the draft and free agency can perform well enough to compensate for those you’ve lost.
That said, the Giants have as solid a core as any team in the league right now with Coughlin, Eli, Nicks, Cruz, JPP and Tuck. And while certainly they can’t be favored to repeat, I think that they are just as likely to go all the way next year as any of the teams ranked ahead of them.
I may be wrong
but I think you’re applying the gambler’s fallacy to the odds of repeating. It’s like saying the first coin flip is 50/50 and you get heads, but that getting heads two times in a row is somehow reduced below 50% based on the previous flip. If you attribute the same odds to every team one season, then you have to apply those odds the following season as well, because the odds assigned were independent of any other factors. Of course, that’s not exactly how it works in sports, because there are human elements involved, but I am just addressing the basics here.
maybe, it depends on whether you calculate the odds of. . .
one event at a time or two events in succession.
For one coin toss, the odds are always 50/50.
But the odds of the same outcome for two consecutive coin tosses gets the multiplication factor.
So, for two tosses, these are the possible sequences: H/H, H/T, T/H or T/T. So, a 50% probability becomes 50% multiplied by 50% for the series of two, assuming the events are independent. 5. × .5 = .25, which is the probability of either H/H or T/T or of the other two outcomes when calculated for the series of two at a time.
Now everyone will say Eli is in Bradys class. F*ck me
by PatNation85 on Nov 6, 2011 4:31 PM PST
but there is also the probability of two in a row given that you have won this year
that is a different calculation
Eli is our King!
yes, I tried to make that clear in my original, but must have messed it up.
Plus, the assumptions built into my original model as 1/32 probability are flawed, because each team does not have an equal chance going into a season, though it’s impossible to calibrate the actual differences.
Some teams are better than others in talent, coaching, depth, etc. Some teams have easier schedules than others, nd so by design, the more success you have in year 1, the more the system punishes you with the schedule in year 2, all other things being equal.
So I offered the numbers as an heuristic, not as a true calculation. Models oversimplify, but that doesn’t make them useless. But even if you accept for the sake of simplicity a 1/32 random chance of winning the SB, the odds makers are giving the Giants more than a random chance at 1/15. I don’t have a beef with that, though the other teams they put way ahead of the Giants. . . I would bet the under against those any and every day.
The odds makers over value the team success probabilities of the other NFC East rival relative to the Giants, just as they did going into this year. And the Pats are overvalued in my opinion as well, as I would put the odds of Brady missing more than one game in each of his upcoming years as roughly doubling every year from here on out. I think, off the top of my head, he easily has a 1/3 chance of missing at least 2 games next year. And if catastrophe strikes (a la Peyton Manning), things could go bad in NE real fast and deep.
Now everyone will say Eli is in Bradys class. F*ck me
by PatNation85 on Nov 6, 2011 4:31 PM PST
Also there haven't always been 32 teams in the league
Self-praise is for losers. Be a winner. Stand for something. Always have class, and be humble.
-John Madden
"Luck means a lot in football. Not having a good quarterback is bad luck." -Don Shula
"You just don't throw on Chase Blackburn.''
The oddsmakers are Giants fans.
Disrespect is a powerful thing. We’ll use it as fuel for a hot start, get full of ourselves and lose a couple, than get that hate again…and finish strong.
LOL at them making the Eaglets higher than us. Just makes that loosely associated group of players (note that I didn’t say team) puff out their chests. And the fact that the Jest have almost the same odds as us with Mark Sanchez at QB makes me laugh even more.
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 8, 2012 10:04 AM EST reply actions
We thrive on 'not most favored status'
I’m happy know we can play .500 football with next yrs schedule, and like in a game with Eli at the helm, when it’s crunch time, the team chemistry will happen and let the playoff run begin again!
As far as the eagles, they media loves them on paper, but there’s nothing i see, especially at QB, that makes me believe they have any chemistry left.
Vick is terrible
He’s so inconsistent and always misses games. People forget that, b4 he was convicted of killing dogs 4 fun, there was a ton if talk about his lack of preparation and whether or not he’d be back in ATL.
by Giant Ken on Feb 8, 2012 12:19 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
The Giants are capable of winning next year
Whether they do or not is on them. That is why they play the games. On paper yes, in reality, who knows.
I got a GIF for that!
Giants by 17 over GB, take it to the bank!
Giants by 10 over SF, take it to the bank! Well, OK, by 3, but we are Super Bowl bound!!!!!!!
Giants will score 30 (correction 21 (damn FG's/failed 2 pt conversion)) or more points, NE 20 or less. Guess who wins? Take it to the bank!
by Fester McDougal on Feb 8, 2012 10:06 AM EST reply actions
well the Giants will have a helluva schedule next season
and we all know injuries will unfortunately take a toll
the easy answer is “yes” but the more intelligent answer is “why even bother worrying about this now?”
Fire Fewell
Agreed
Besides, so much of football comes down to matchups, and we don’t know next year’s roster yet, we can’t predict injuries, et cetera et cetera.
Unless one of you is hiding a crystal ball or something.
by soulless chimney on Feb 8, 2012 12:17 PM EST up reply actions
well the Giants will have a helluva schedule next season
and we all know injuries will unfortunately take a toll
the easy answer is “yes” but the more intelligent answer is “why even bother worrying about this now?”
Fire Fewell
sbnation brain farts
"Oh sir, the Giants of New York took on the Packers of Green Bay. And in the end, the Giants triumphed by kicking an oblong ball made of pigskin through a big "H". It was a most ripping victory."
as in, not being able to comment, etc
"Oh sir, the Giants of New York took on the Packers of Green Bay. And in the end, the Giants triumphed by kicking an oblong ball made of pigskin through a big "H". It was a most ripping victory."
Finally, we're back
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 8, 2012 11:58 AM EST reply actions
Aaaaaand goodbye to my productivity
by soulless chimney on Feb 8, 2012 12:18 PM EST up reply actions
hahaha yes
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 8, 2012 12:18 PM EST up reply actions
SAME HERE
New York Giants 2011 Super Bowl Champions = FACT
The NFL will now FEAR THE LOWERCASE ny
by The Always Well Dressed... on Feb 8, 2012 12:21 PM EST up reply actions
What the hell happened
I’m bores as hell at work… Now let’s resume
Why is Tom Quinn still here? I loves me some Coach Clawfin.
Finally, we're back
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 8, 2012 11:58 AM EST reply actions
What the hell happened to SBNation?
I blame Eli
New York Giants 2011 Super Bowl Champions = FACT
The NFL will now FEAR THE LOWERCASE ny
by The Always Well Dressed... on Feb 8, 2012 12:06 PM EST reply actions
Underware guy strikes again
I got a GIF for that!
Giants by 17 over GB, take it to the bank!
Giants by 10 over SF, take it to the bank! Well, OK, by 3, but we are Super Bowl bound!!!!!!!
Giants will score 30 (correction 21 (damn FG's/failed 2 pt conversion)) or more points, NE 20 or less. Guess who wins? Take it to the bank!
by Fester McDougal on Feb 8, 2012 12:16 PM EST up reply actions
2nd time we went down with
Underwear guy around
Why is Tom Quinn still here? I loves me some Coach Clawfin.
We'll Be Better Next Year
Here’s the thing. From a personnel standpoint, we should be better—and possibly much better—than we were this year.
Imagine this:
We will revamp the OL and get our upper echelon running game back. Think about what that will mean to the offense overall.
We will have a difference-making TE, let’s say a Dwayne Allen.
We will have young guys in their second year with a full camp, offseason program, etc. Think about what this will mean in terms of a leap forward for Prince, Jernigan, Jacquian, Herzlich, Sash, Brewer, Paysinger, etc.
We (should) get Terrell Thomas and Jon Goff back.
We will get Marvin Austin in the DL rotation.
Intangible: We will have learned how to win.
I actually believe that, like the Packers—who were missing a ton of players during their SB run—we will actually be better than this year. They went from 10-6 to 15-1 because they were at full strength.
The question will be injuries, the timing of injuries, possible visits to the Latin Quarter, stuff like that.
So we may well be better, but not win.
Or yeah, we might.
But we are probably going to be losing Osi and Brandon and Mario. Those will be some pretty steep losses.
It was a particularly small egg...thats why I asked.
by thenightstallion on Feb 8, 2012 1:50 PM EST up reply actions
and also some opportunities
Sorry, but it just seems like a bad decision for the team to give MM better than #3 WR money, and someone else will give him #1 or #2 money. We drafted a WR last year who now knows the system and should be ready to compete for targets with some others.
Osi is at his max value now for trade and is under contract, so we have choices there. But even if he goes, we do still have the option of bringing Kiwanuka back to DE where he is better, as long as we can make up the snaps with quality at SAM. Or, maybe we bring in another pass rusher. The point is, we have choices, and they don’t all suck, with Goff likely coming back at a reasonable price, and another year of development for Williams and Herzlich.
Brandon is way overpaid for his production and even if he renegotiates down, it may be time to bring in another player with more long term upside for nice cap manageable money. Even late round RB’s can have an impact, and Scott should be able to compete in that mix next year as well.
Ross may be to pricey to keep as well when we can sign TT to a lean deal on his comeback year, and Johnson, Coe, Witherspoon and Tryon in the wings, and Prince with some early experience under his belt.
All these fallback options open up cap room for a TE and for some depth on the OL. We played moneyball with Smith and Boss and Cofield last year and came out ahead. I expect the same this year. Rookies under the new CBA are more affordable than ever, and so I expect more use of them in the future as we saw this past year.
Now everyone will say Eli is in Bradys class. F*ck me
by PatNation85 on Nov 6, 2011 4:31 PM PST
Its a deep WR FA crop
And their are 3 or 4 in the draft (first rounders)
The market for MM might not be so deep.
Eli is our King!
Osi and JR both have said they want him to stay
$ might screw it up, but winning is an aphrodisiac. Lets see where Osi’s contract talks end up. I could see him taking a fair extension, and extending his career and getting more hardware. Remember Osi’s career earnings will get up around $100M with a 4 yr extension at 7M per (incl bonus). He should have $15 M banked by the end more if hes smart.
Eli is our King!
Yeah
I don’t see us losing Osi.
Brandon is very replaceable. In fact, both Andre Brown and Da’Rel Scott will add the dimension of speed and being able to catch the ball. I think our RBs will be better, assuming they can both pick up blocks when needed. Hynoski is also a bit of a wildcard – would love to see them hand him the ball and see if he can run with it as well.
MM is replaceable as well. Barden and Jernigan alone can replace him – there’s also this kid Dan DePalma on the practice squad that is said to be the quickest WR they have. Who knows, maybe we have a baby Welker right in our midst? And we have Devin Thomas, who has great talent and hopefully now his head on straight.
So I don’t think those losses are all that steep.
*Oh – one other thing I didn’t mention: Getting a healthy Tuck back. Who knows what all his issues were this year? If he comes back healthy and at full strength, look out.
by Pink Flamingo on Feb 8, 2012 2:22 PM EST up reply actions
And
All of the above are based on just what we currently have. No mention of the draft or free agency. Maybe we draft another pass rushing DE and a WR.
by Pink Flamingo on Feb 8, 2012 2:23 PM EST up reply actions
BJ is being phased out
I still think he has gas in the tank, but its hard to see the trouble replacing his carries.
Eli is our King!
Draftniks?
Is there a big freak RB in the draft that we can take around the 4th round?
Maybe THAT’s how we replace Big Boy. :)
by Pink Flamingo on Feb 8, 2012 3:06 PM EST up reply actions
Eh
Just looked. Walter Football’s got the top 20, and I think only 1 is 6 feet tall. Lots of small, light guys. Few even over 220 lbs.
by Pink Flamingo on Feb 8, 2012 3:16 PM EST up reply actions
Well there's another Darrell Scott and he kinda fits the bill
He’s 6’ 1", 240 pounds, and runs like a 4.48 40. He also is from USF and is rated as a late round pick and I would love for the giants to take him in the 7th. I haven’t seen tape on him or know much about but he sounds like someone Reese will look in to.
by Gmen_Fan_Forever on Feb 8, 2012 6:00 PM EST up reply actions
Peyton Hillis
I wonder what he would cost to sign? He would seem to fit us well.
by Pink Flamingo on Feb 8, 2012 6:39 PM EST up reply actions
Jacobs doesn't fit our offensive MO anymore
he’s a big back that needs lots of carries with a decent o-line. Our o-line is not decent, and we’re a pass first team.
As much as I love Jacobs and his punishing style, he’s not a fit in the current philosophy (which I think is the best for our current personell). Put him on a run first team with a good o-line, like Atlanta or the Texans, and he’ll be close to the Jacobs we knew and love.
Actually I think going to the Texans would be perfect for him
Self-praise is for losers. Be a winner. Stand for something. Always have class, and be humble.
-John Madden
"Luck means a lot in football. Not having a good quarterback is bad luck." -Don Shula
"You just don't throw on Chase Blackburn.''
Pass First
I don’t think that’s by design, but by necessity, because we just don’t get the push we need up front. My guess is we do everything we can to reestablish control of the line of scrimmage and try to get back to a balanced attack.
That said, I agree that we don’t need a big back – but I like it for the intimidation factor. I like having a guy that runs over people.
Maybe Hammerin’ Hank will develop into more of a Charles Way type fullback.
by Pink Flamingo on Feb 8, 2012 6:41 PM EST up reply actions
The I/T group supporting this site...sucks..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
FACT
New York Giants 2011 Super Bowl Champions = FACT
The NFL will now FEAR THE LOWERCASE ny
by The Always Well Dressed... on Feb 8, 2012 12:06 PM EST up reply actions
FedEx is the issue
I got a GIF for that!
Giants by 17 over GB, take it to the bank!
Giants by 10 over SF, take it to the bank! Well, OK, by 3, but we are Super Bowl bound!!!!!!!
Giants will score 30 (correction 21 (damn FG's/failed 2 pt conversion)) or more points, NE 20 or less. Guess who wins? Take it to the bank!
by Fester McDougal on Feb 8, 2012 12:41 PM EST up reply actions
Yes We Can!
I’m so sick of these analysts pointing to our record and saying that they got hot at the right time, and that u cant rely on that. NO, we got a bunch of our guys back from injury! We still had 14 guys on IR this year,.the pack had 17 last year, when everyone said how great a job it was by rodgers, just stupid. This was the most injured team I’ve ever seen, bw IR and weekly injured guys. Crazy! No respect yet again, but that’s how we like it!!!!!
by Giant Ken on Feb 8, 2012 12:12 PM EST via mobile reply actions
To Repeat
we will need to bring back the swagger
Fester
one more time to cap this season off
This?
I got a GIF for that!
Giants by 17 over GB, take it to the bank!
Giants by 10 over SF, take it to the bank! Well, OK, by 3, but we are Super Bowl bound!!!!!!!
Giants will score 30 (correction 21 (damn FG's/failed 2 pt conversion)) or more points, NE 20 or less. Guess who wins? Take it to the bank!
by Fester McDougal on Feb 8, 2012 12:26 PM EST up reply actions
We are in Biiiiig trouble
Home
New York Giants vs.
Philadelphia Eagles
New York Giants vs.
Dallas Cowboys
New York Giants vs.
Washington Redskins
New York Giants vs.
New Orleans Saints
New York Giants vs.
Tampa Bay Buccaneers
New York Giants vs.
Cleveland Browns
New York Giants vs.
Pittsburgh Steelers
New York Giants vs.
Green Bay Packers
away games
Philadelphia Eagles vs.
New York Giants
Washington Redskins vs.
New York Giants
Dallas Cowboys vs.
New York Giants
Atlanta Falcons vs.
New York Giants
Carolina Panthers vs.
New York Giants
Cincinnati Bengals vs.
New York Giants
Baltimore Ravens vs.
New York Giants
San Francisco 49ers vs.
New York Giants
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
Finally we get to see J Lin!!! Giant LB'zz
yep...
And knowing the NFL, the last 5 games will be @Atlanta, @Baltimore, vs Dallas, @San Team, @NO…
So be it. All those teams have to worry about the Superbowl champs coming to town.
The Kraken shall eat well!
by Raptor22 on Feb 8, 2012 12:25 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Respect all, fear none
but fear the lower case ny!
I got a GIF for that!
Giants by 17 over GB, take it to the bank!
Giants by 10 over SF, take it to the bank! Well, OK, by 3, but we are Super Bowl bound!!!!!!!
Giants will score 30 (correction 21 (damn FG's/failed 2 pt conversion)) or more points, NE 20 or less. Guess who wins? Take it to the bank!
by Fester McDougal on Feb 8, 2012 12:31 PM EST up reply actions
I'll take 9-7 with another playoff birth.
Now in section 133.
by Last year in Sec 127 on Feb 8, 2012 3:58 PM EST up reply actions
As for the schedule - the old quote goes:
That which does not kill us makes us stronger.
"The Giants goal is to win more championships than the Jets have curtains." - Raptor22
not much worse than this year.
at least we got those goddamned Saints at home instead of their little house of horrors. I hope that one is a late season game in the cold. That or October, because Eli is unstoppable in October and February.
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 8, 2012 12:19 PM EST up reply actions
If we had to play the Saints in NO again I would have been pissed.
Ask and you shall receive!!
nywins42 = nywins46
Looks like a schedule that will
Propel us into the Playoffs as the most Battle Tested team again. I like it you get to the Playoffs will that schedule…. Super Bowl Part Deuce
Why is Tom Quinn still here? I loves me some Coach Clawfin.
look at the 2008 schedule, the one where we went 12-4
same stuff, basically sub out the Niners as the flavor of the week for the Panthers, who were real good too.
I don’t see any of these games as ones we have no shot, especially playing the Saints finally at home.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
Its not that bad
beat the best to be the best
New York Giants 2011 Super Bowl Champions = FACT
The NFL will now FEAR THE LOWERCASE ny
by The Always Well Dressed... on Feb 8, 2012 12:23 PM EST up reply actions
We can handle it by the way WE are the BEST. haha
This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.
Looks about right, nothing crazy
Our biggest challenge was teams that have 4-5 playmakers that we could not match-up with. I will be interest to see how we do with TT back in the mix and Prince with a few games under his belt.
We just need a big time TE and we can beat any team!
by Giant Ken on Feb 8, 2012 12:23 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Not that bad
Especially since we’re a good road team, and only Atlanta is gonna have the crazy noise advantage that comes from playing in a dome. The Cowgirls can close their roof, but we already know Eli owns them in that stadium.
by soulless chimney on Feb 8, 2012 12:26 PM EST up reply actions
Jerry has to hate seeing that on the schedule EVERY year
has Eli lost there yet?
It is better to be silent and be thought a fool, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt.
We're going to kick all their butts...
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Question is who's the Kickoff Game
Packers probably, but could be anyone other than Bucs Browns or Skins
Blue is the color of melancholy and honesty
Green is the color of inexperience, envy and nausea.
if we played them at home I could see it being them
but you have to have the Giants playing at home that first game, if they don’t someone should send a rectum seeking missile at Goodell. I’d say the Packers are probably the best bet
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
Unless I'm mistaken
Defending SB champs always open at home
by soulless chimney on Feb 8, 2012 12:44 PM EST up reply actions
I agree...
They will open the season with the Thursday night season kickoff game. Probably against the Packers.
Ask and you shall receive!!
nywins42 = nywins46
The Giants share 14 of these games with the rest of the NFC East
So does anybody know who the two additional games are for the Cowboys, Redskins, Eagles?
Never mind, I looked it up.
Eagles get Home Lions and Away Falcons, BUT their games against the Steelers and Saints are on the road. (Heh.)
Cowboys get home Bears, away Seahawks, and they have both the Steelers and Saints at home.
Redskins get home Vikings, away Rams, and they have the Steelers and Saints are on the road.
the Seahawks in Seattle's never easy
and the Bears are a lot like the Giants with that pass rush. If Cutler and Forte (if he’s still there) are healthy, that’s a tough one.
Falcons also in their dome are tough. I’d also love to see Klob beat the Eggholes.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
We survived a whole post season run so we can make those games too.
This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.
You made a mistake.
Both of our Dallas games are at home.
Blue Ivy? I don't even know what that means?
No one knows what it means, but its provocative, it gets the people going!
by BigBlueWreckingYou on Feb 8, 2012 2:33 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Every game should be on prime time!!!
Now in section 133.
by Last year in Sec 127 on Feb 8, 2012 3:59 PM EST up reply actions
AHAHA
I also love the guy on the right
by soulless chimney on Feb 8, 2012 12:23 PM EST up reply actions
hahaha
New York Giants 2011 Super Bowl Champions = FACT
The NFL will now FEAR THE LOWERCASE ny
by The Always Well Dressed... on Feb 8, 2012 12:23 PM EST up reply actions
There's a New York...YEEEEEEEHAAAAAAAH!!!
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Anyone think it's possible to trade a 5th rounder for
Tony Gonzalez?
I got banned from Jests Blog for saying Chad Henne has better stats than Mark Sanchez. And they think they're the big brothers in this town? LMAO try again little sisters!
Let's Go Giants!!!!
With the way Atlanta works their deals...
We could get Gonzalez and their 1st round picks in the next 4 drafts for Beckum’s knee
Ask and you shall receive!!
nywins42 = nywins46
Nah
We’ll get a young TE elsewhere, possibly in the first round of the draft. JR hates giving up his picks, and Gonzalez would have to be paid.
by Pink Flamingo on Feb 8, 2012 12:30 PM EST up reply actions
Agreed on the pick but
I dont know about the first round. JR will find some corn feed monster in the later rounds. I think maybe a RT because Kareem (Suge Knight) Mckensie is starting to slow down. How sweet it is to Pick 32nd
"We are only going to score 17 points?" No Tommy Boy only 14.
James Brewer
I’m telling you, he’s gonna be a beast next year.
I got banned from Jests Blog for saying Chad Henne has better stats than Mark Sanchez. And they think they're the big brothers in this town? LMAO try again little sisters!
Let's Go Giants!!!!
I like Brewer too
But who knows?
"We are only going to score 17 points?" No Tommy Boy only 14. You still cant score more than 17 points! I guess when you are not video taping walk throughs it slows you down a little bit.
nah, he's already under contract
and we just need someone in the short term until our guys heal. Look what eli has done with “no name” TEs. So why waste a 1st rounder, who by the way, will probably be more expensive than Gonzalez.
I got banned from Jests Blog for saying Chad Henne has better stats than Mark Sanchez. And they think they're the big brothers in this town? LMAO try again little sisters!
Let's Go Giants!!!!
Waste
of a 1st rounder on getting a really good TE? Look at the impact Shockey had early on. Imagine adding a talent like that to this offense.
And we need a TE since we just lost 2.
by Pink Flamingo on Feb 8, 2012 12:52 PM EST up reply actions
Tony G wanted to come here a few years ago
he’d be a perfect fit since you know he wants a chance to get a ring. I dunno about giving up a pick, tho a 5th rounder sounds right
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
that's exactly my thinking on this
I got banned from Jests Blog for saying Chad Henne has better stats than Mark Sanchez. And they think they're the big brothers in this town? LMAO try again little sisters!
Let's Go Giants!!!!
Doubt we will trade, FA is JR's favorite hunting ground
I got a GIF for that!
Giants by 17 over GB, take it to the bank!
Giants by 10 over SF, take it to the bank! Well, OK, by 3, but we are Super Bowl bound!!!!!!!
Giants will score 30 (correction 21 (damn FG's/failed 2 pt conversion)) or more points, NE 20 or less. Guess who wins? Take it to the bank!
by Fester McDougal on Feb 8, 2012 12:37 PM EST up reply actions
that was for a 2nd round pick
I don’t think they didn’t want him, just the cost was a little too high
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
Special Teams
played very well in the playoffs……any credit to Quinn fellow bbv’ers
I think that after the onside kick fiasco in SF during the regular season...
A lot of extra attention was given to STs.
Ask and you shall receive!!
nywins42 = nywins46
it sure went from a minus
to a plus…..wouldn’t be champions w/o ST contribution
by Cruz Control on Feb 8, 2012 12:34 PM EST up reply actions
They went a full circle. They started after the 49er reg season game and then the same Sts helped us win NFCCG there.
This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.
it sure went from a minus
to a plus…..wouldn’t be champions w/o ST contribution
by Cruz Control on Feb 8, 2012 12:34 PM EST up reply actions
He earned the right
not to be tarred and feathered and run out on a rail. I defer judgement until next year thereafter
I got a GIF for that!
Giants by 17 over GB, take it to the bank!
Giants by 10 over SF, take it to the bank! Well, OK, by 3, but we are Super Bowl bound!!!!!!!
Giants will score 30 (correction 21 (damn FG's/failed 2 pt conversion)) or more points, NE 20 or less. Guess who wins? Take it to the bank!
by Fester McDougal on Feb 8, 2012 12:36 PM EST up reply actions
hell no.
the special teams played like crap as usual. Weatherford’s foot did its own work, and the fumble recoveries were either stupidity by the other team or great individual efforts.
Will Blackmon was damn near a pro bowl caliber PR in GB. Comes here and can’t get 2 yards
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
Wow
no credit at all for the coverage….DAMN
by Cruz Control on Feb 8, 2012 12:40 PM EST up reply actions
Sash and GJ53 were ballin' on STs
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 8, 2012 12:44 PM EST up reply actions
after the dude got to the 35
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
on PRs they were damn good for most of the year
on KRs I’d agree our unit was less effective.
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 8, 2012 12:49 PM EST up reply actions
PRs I'll credit Weatherford.
high and directional kicks are easy to cover.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
fair point
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 8, 2012 12:53 PM EST up reply actions
in the playoffs?
that statement shows you have zero credibility
by Cruz Control on Feb 8, 2012 12:45 PM EST up reply actions
I'll never take you seriously
but still, go head and watch the playoffs games for once. See the starting field position on kickoffs. Do it.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
SB
starting field position:
Giants – their 25 yd line
Pats – their 16 yd line
by Cruz Control on Feb 8, 2012 12:59 PM EST up reply actions
29 yd line
was their best starting field position of the game
all but 2 were touchbacks and punts
the 29 was a kickoff. And it doesn’t take away from the terrible coverage in the previous 2 games.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
R44
You’re blaming Blackmon’s performance on Quinn. Hixon wasn’t bad b4 he got hurt. Could it be Blackmon’s washed up? Is your judgment biased
by Cruz Control on Feb 8, 2012 12:44 PM EST up reply actions
I'll Buy That
Izzo and Weatherford played a big part
by Cruz Control on Feb 8, 2012 12:42 PM EST up reply actions
Defense
Perry made a big turn a round too….the KISS principle worked…..that and getting some injured players back
Just had a fun hour on BSPN.com
All the bitter Pats fans whining about #27’s comments on Gisele. How he’s a loser, he sucks, he’s washed up.
My response:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1abuaVpzXc
Blue is the color of melancholy and honesty
Green is the color of inexperience, envy and nausea.
Beautiful!!!...Screw them..We're the Champs baby!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
NY Foot Ball Giants 2012 Super Bowl Champs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Why is Tom Quinn still here? I loves me some Coach Clawfin.
Yeah and I'm going to get some beer and watch us beat them again tonight....
I gotta lay off the Chili and Wings though…My ass needs a break….
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Hahahaha!!!!
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
not going anywhere near this one
New York Giants 2011 Super Bowl Champions = FACT
The NFL will now FEAR THE LOWERCASE ny
by The Always Well Dressed... on Feb 8, 2012 1:00 PM EST up reply actions
I think he needs to be careful
when “backing away” from this one
"Oh sir, the Giants of New York took on the Packers of Green Bay. And in the end, the Giants triumphed by kicking an oblong ball made of pigskin through a big "H". It was a most ripping victory."
zing
New York Giants 2011 Super Bowl Champions = FACT
The NFL will now FEAR THE LOWERCASE ny
by The Always Well Dressed... on Feb 8, 2012 1:27 PM EST up reply actions
Hhahahahahahahahahahahahahah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Why is Tom Quinn still here? I loves me some Coach Clawfin.
Never ever ever stand behind my Fart Blimp!!!
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
I saw one that said he should shut up because he didn't contribute anything to the season
Ask and you shall receive!!
nywins42 = nywins46
I really liked the "Boston's won more titles in the last decade" stuff
C’mon man…
Boston sucked for a CENTURY, except for when they had a genius Jewish guy from Brooklyn running their basketball team.
Blue is the color of melancholy and honesty
Green is the color of inexperience, envy and nausea.
Just tell em
Eli is your Daddy, play nice or he’ll spank you again
Eli is our King!
time for a lawsuit
anyone here a lawyer?
New York Giants 2011 Super Bowl Champions = FACT
The NFL will now FEAR THE LOWERCASE ny
by The Always Well Dressed... on Feb 8, 2012 12:59 PM EST up reply actions
I was thinking I could use a hitman but I guess NOT breaking the law would be a better first step.
Ask and you shall receive!!
nywins42 = nywins46
I love right before the 99 yarder vs the Jets...
You hear Johnston say “You gotta get some positive yards here just so you can punt the ball from a normal distance”…
Ask and you shall receive!!
nywins42 = nywins46
he called an awful game in that one from the booth
totally blew the special teams illegal touching the ball call also, pontificating on a rule he got totally wrong.
Now everyone will say Eli is in Bradys class. F*ck me
by PatNation85 on Nov 6, 2011 4:31 PM PST
I think you have a marvelously built team that makes it entirely possible
the only thing that makes me wonder is how many power house teams are in the NFC right now.
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too many
but that often means when you get there, you can cash it in
Eli is our King!
SB XLVII will be played in NO next year, yeah?
I suspect we will be hearing about that often, particularly down the stretch if the Saints are in contention…
by Step up and make big plays on Feb 8, 2012 1:13 PM EST up reply actions
I hate that f__kin Dome
They are a totally different team when they play there.
"We are only going to score 17 points?" No Tommy Boy only 14. You still cant score more than 17 points! I guess when you are not video taping walk throughs it slows you down a little bit.
And the Saints are really hard to beat there
That is really the biggest home field adv. in the league.
"We are only going to score 17 points?" No Tommy Boy only 14. You still cant score more than 17 points! I guess when you are not video taping walk throughs it slows you down a little bit.
The team hosting the superbowl
Has historically stank that year for the last few years.
Wouldn’t be too shocked if that extended to the Saints this year
Self-praise is for losers. Be a winner. Stand for something. Always have class, and be humble.
-John Madden
"Luck means a lot in football. Not having a good quarterback is bad luck." -Don Shula
"You just don't throw on Chase Blackburn.''
what happened to the "Recent Fanposts" section on the sidebar?
Is it awol for anyone else?
Now everyone will say Eli is in Bradys class. F*ck me
by PatNation85 on Nov 6, 2011 4:31 PM PST
yes. Its annoying
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 8, 2012 1:09 PM EST up reply actions
Yes
I think that SBN has been overwhelmed by the Giants victory
Eli is our King!
Too many GIFs?
Ed will be mad at me….
I got a GIF for that!
Giants by 17 over GB, take it to the bank!
Giants by 10 over SF, take it to the bank! Well, OK, by 3, but we are Super Bowl bound!!!!!!!
Giants will score 30 (correction 21 (damn FG's/failed 2 pt conversion)) or more points, NE 20 or less. Guess who wins? Take it to the bank!
by Fester McDougal on Feb 8, 2012 1:28 PM EST up reply actions
too many GIFS?
Inconceivable
Eli is our King!
Ask and you shall receive!!
nywins42 = nywins46
by nywins46 on Feb 8, 2012 1:11 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
That is too awesume for words.
LOL
"We are only going to score 17 points?" No Tommy Boy only 14. You still cant score more than 17 points! I guess when you are not video taping walk throughs it slows you down a little bit.
Doing the crossword
Clue is “some Super Bowl highlights,” 3 letters. I try TDs, obviously, but it doesn’t work… answer is ads.
This puzzle was CLEARLY not constructed by someone who knows what’s important.
by soulless chimney on Feb 8, 2012 1:21 PM EST reply actions
I am aslo tired of the "luck" talk
The giants recovered a lot of fumbles during the postseason (and forced some) perhaps some were lucky but not all of them, the GMEN they were ready and following up plays.
As for Welker, they might as well scored a TD on that drive, but last time they scored on us we beat them at their house with two drives and the last one with under two minutes.
Lastly, people claim that Welker out of 100 times he catches that ball 99 times, but you know what, if he can’t make that catch or his QB can make a better pass on the biggest stage, then it does not matter, guess what, they had their chance and they could not do it. In the other hand Eli made a hell of a pass and Ham made a spectacular catch. Enough with the luck talk. The better team won. The better team made the spectacular pass and catch when it matters the most.
No name needed...from somewhere that focuses on the Eagles.
I’m in Afghanistan
I missed all but, 10 days of my youngest son’s life, just missed (within the last 5 days) my oldest son’s 3rd birthday (I was in Iraq when he was born) and none of that bothered me to the point of watching the Giants win the SB. I went to the bathroom with every intention of suck starting my 9mm.
Ask and you shall receive!!
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some father he is
Now everyone will say Eli is in Bradys class. F*ck me
by PatNation85 on Nov 6, 2011 4:31 PM PST
Thats my Pop!!!!
What a great father he is gonna be
Why is Tom Quinn still here? I loves me some Coach Clawfin.
Come on guys he's military
Eli is our King!
WOW
New York Giants 2011 Super Bowl Champions = FACT
The NFL will now FEAR THE LOWERCASE ny
by The Always Well Dressed... on Feb 8, 2012 1:54 PM EST up reply actions
Sounds like he needs a career change AND a new team
Blue is the color of melancholy and honesty
Green is the color of inexperience, envy and nausea.
I felt that way about the Redskin loses
but I used a Beer bottle, not a gun….
I got a GIF for that!
Giants by 17 over GB, take it to the bank!
Giants by 10 over SF, take it to the bank! Well, OK, by 3, but we are Super Bowl bound!!!!!!!
Giants will score 30 (correction 21 (damn FG's/failed 2 pt conversion)) or more points, NE 20 or less. Guess who wins? Take it to the bank!
by Fester McDougal on Feb 8, 2012 2:25 PM EST up reply actions
I think we can repeat
I say this cause after the 07’ Superbowl, we crushed everyone the following year with an 11-1 record and ranked number 1. I still say that is the greatest Giant team ever just by the ease at which we were scoring. If idiot didn’t shoot himself, I don’t see why we wouldn’t have repeated.
Same goes for this year, Eli is in his prime, guys finally understand the system on both sides of the ball, we’re battle tested never out of games, and we’ll get some guys back off IR. I like our chances a lot and I hope we sign Ham and although a stretch, Osi too.
It's still GIANTS Stadium
You down wit JPP---yeah you know me
Provided our #1 WR...
…doesn’t carouse in a night club with a loaded pistol with the safety catch off secured in the elastic waist band of his sweatpants, I like our chances next season.
by Step up and make big plays on Feb 8, 2012 1:37 PM EST up reply actions
I'm working on customized full body bulletproof body suits for all the Giants players
Ask and you shall receive!!
nywins42 = nywins46
GET ON IT QUICK
the off season can be bad for these guys
New York Giants 2011 Super Bowl Champions = FACT
The NFL will now FEAR THE LOWERCASE ny
by The Always Well Dressed... on Feb 8, 2012 1:56 PM EST up reply actions
I've got a prototype but nobody will help me test it out!!
Ask and you shall receive!!
nywins42 = nywins46
Something about those Pitt receivers and causing problems for other teams
It's still GIANTS Stadium
You down wit JPP---yeah you know me
loved this on philly daily news .. "why cant it be us" !!
by hailManning on Feb 8, 2012 1:36 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
that's fantastic
here’s to hoping it never is them
"Oh sir, the Giants of New York took on the Packers of Green Bay. And in the end, the Giants triumphed by kicking an oblong ball made of pigskin through a big "H". It was a most ripping victory."
wow
cause ur all about glamor and the CHAMPS about business baby…..this is not a poularity contest baby………ruff ruff ruff
hustle and hustle with muscle
unfortunately ...
i had to move to philly a few years ago … trust me, theres nothing glamorous abt philly ..
You know why Philly???
Cause your fan base is a bunch of scum bags and not just football…in all sports
It's still GIANTS Stadium
You down wit JPP---yeah you know me
Why? Because you have had a running QB for the last 13 years!
Who either gets hurts for 3-4 games or chokes when it counts.
"We are only going to score 17 points?" No Tommy Boy only 14. You still cant score more than 17 points! I guess when you are not video taping walk throughs it slows you down a little bit.
I hate the post-game "luck" theme that is getting so much attention.
“If” Welker had held on – but you know what? Manningham DID. “If” Williams hadn’t muffed the punts – but the Giants DIDN’T. The Giants played largely mistake-free football under post-season pressure. Their opponents did not. Let’s make that the story.
show me "luck" and I'll show you execution
Now everyone will say Eli is in Bradys class. F*ck me
by PatNation85 on Nov 6, 2011 4:31 PM PST
The harder you work...
The luckier you get
Also
Manning led Mannningham a little too much on an earlier deep pass….there is realy no one play in these games…..plays do lead to other plays being made or not made, but I cant single out one play in any of these games. Take Weatherfords first punt, pinning NE deep, forcing Brady to throw out of his end zone, and intentional grounding…those 2 points forced NE to need a TD instead of 3 on their last drive.
by Fernando47okc on Feb 8, 2012 1:53 PM EST up reply actions
Give it a rest on Welker's drop, media....
It was 2nd and 11. They had another opportunity.
Yeah we had some luck, but what about their luck?
A very pivotal Booth hold up 9-3, after we just got a 1st down in their territory….Could’ve made it at least 12-3 Giants early.
2 non calls on Sterling Moore. One was definitely P.I. the other very close. One was for a huge 1st down.
Did anyone remember the ball that went through Kenny Phillips hands? They pointed it out as a Deion Branch drop, but it went right through K.P.’s hands….
Coulda Woulda Shoulda New England….
BTW, Indy was great and I’d go back there for an event anytime.
In Reese I Trust.
not to
the other non call the facemasks etc.and that booth holding call was bogus……..never happened….how many un-called holding penalties did the pats o-line have…..i saw quite a few
hustle and hustle with muscle
I do remember a few obvious facemasks that weren't called.
Ask and you shall receive!!
nywins42 = nywins46
"Without two special teams mistakes ..."
And how do you know that the Giants do not win that game without turnovers ? SF did nothing on offense except for two plays to Davis, and based on the Giants 4th Qtr performance this year, there is all reason to believe that they score at least once there.
SF had their shot and blew it, do not take away from the Giants win there because Ginn was out…special teams play is not given enough credit by all of us. Take Weatherfords punt, pinning NE deep leading to Bradys intentional grounding, that punt put Brady in the endzone and left NE needing a TD instead of a FG on their last drive.
Things I love as thoughts turn toward the coming year
10. it is hard to see how our secondary cannot be better next year. Yes, we must avoid injury (knock on wood). But with Prince attending camp, and having gotten his feet wet, and with the return of TT, those guys more than offset the loss of Ross, assuming we even lose him. Plus, we’ll have the depth we lost to injury this year in camp.
9. Ditto re the LBs, except not losses in FA that I’m aware of, only more experience and return to health. JWill will be even better. Plus, still not clear what we have in Herz (more likely) and Paysinger (likely ST still).
8. We won the SB with a flat out mediocre OL. We won it with our (probable) best OL on IR (Beatty). Again, knock on wood, but how can we go anywhere but up? Hard to know what JR and TC feel about Brewer; they see him in practice, we don’t. But, whether it be Diehl or Brewer at RT, hard to see them being worse than KM. They’ll need a RT. Would like to see them draft a mauler G or T to clear holes for the RBs.
7. JPP. have we seen his best? Doubt it, which is scary. I assume Osi will be back; can’t see him being let go for anything less than a 2, and I’m not sure JR will get such an offer. If he returns, our DL is fearsome again. Even if not, JPP gets to line up in his most effective RDE position without having to give up snaps to Osi.
6. On the subject of the DL, we get Austin back and Joseph continues his upward trajectory. i think we’ll see some more sacks/pressures next year from him. i think he’s capable of that. Austin—with two years of no ball, i’m not expecting much next year, but could yield some awesome depth.
5. Team Speed. Much better overall than it’s been in past years. i look for Scott to get worked in. He had a Cruz-like preseason; can he hold on to the ball and bring it in the regular season. ….Goodbye to Big Boy….you’ve been a sometimes fearsome Giant, but it’ll be time to move on. perhaps addition by subtraction. Also, with RB’s having fallen out of favor in the first round, maybe a top guy (not Richardson) is there and JR decides to go for one at or at R2. Would love to see LaMichael James in blue. Can you imagine our O with a great running attack again?
4. The wideouts. Love to see them keep Mario, but not too optimistic there. Still, with Cruz and Nicks, we’ll be just fine. As to #3, and given it is Eli throwing, there’s already talent on the roster that could make an impact.
3. Eli.
2. Eli (because he deserves two mentions).
1. Because we won the SB, and because of everything above, I have a feeling of well-being—the absence of nervousness as we move toward FA and the draft. it’s like sitting on the beach with a couple margaritas in me….aaaaahhhhhh. Whatever happens, it’ll be good. We can trust JR to get us some more good players and with the return of the injured, and with the confidence borne of having been through trial by fire and having come through in stunning fashion, the 2012-13 Giants should be even better. Yes, that’s a nice thought to carry around…….
by NorthwestFan on Feb 8, 2012 1:51 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
Agreed, but lets not ware the rose colored glasses for too long
There are some holes on this team that need a talent transfusion (OL, LB’s) in order to turn us into a juggernaut.
I got a GIF for that!
Giants by 17 over GB, take it to the bank!
Giants by 10 over SF, take it to the bank! Well, OK, by 3, but we are Super Bowl bound!!!!!!!
Giants will score 30 (correction 21 (damn FG's/failed 2 pt conversion)) or more points, NE 20 or less. Guess who wins? Take it to the bank!
by Fester McDougal on Feb 8, 2012 2:30 PM EST up reply actions
i diagree about lbs
we have some good lbs and with the return of sintim and goff we should be loaded …im more concerned with the ol,rb,and te even with ballard healthy.i have faith in jr to make wise decisions when it comes to the draft
hustle and hustle with muscle
I would like to see a FA acquisition of a Vet LB that can be an impact player
but also teach. I know, Boley is in that mold but injuries can decimate that unit rather quickly
I got a GIF for that!
Giants by 17 over GB, take it to the bank!
Giants by 10 over SF, take it to the bank! Well, OK, by 3, but we are Super Bowl bound!!!!!!!
Giants will score 30 (correction 21 (damn FG's/failed 2 pt conversion)) or more points, NE 20 or less. Guess who wins? Take it to the bank!
by Fester McDougal on Feb 8, 2012 3:19 PM EST up reply actions
Are you guys debating whether we should switch to the metric system?
I prefer lbs to kilograms
Ask and you shall receive!!
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Kiwanuka understands
“If we won it this year, there’s no doubt in my mind that we can. We’ve just got to get in the playoffs. That’s it.”
In other words: get into the playoffs and anything can happen.
who do u guys think stays or goes
jacobs
ham
osi
bernard
ross
mckenzie
TT
DIEHL
CANTY probably salary cut or renegotiate
its the time of year when JR.has to add by subtracting……im sure other players are on the bubble
hustle and hustle with muscle
my guess is jacobs, ham and mckenzie are gone
sad about mario if he goes; not so much the others. I appreciate what Jacobs brought to the team, but his best days are behind him and he’s way too pricey.
Osi: i may be in minority here, but i still think he returns.
Bernard: i didn’t realize his contract was up. I don’t think he’s gonna get any big offers elsewhere and if he does, bye-bye.
Diehl, Canty, TT: stay
Ross: i just don’t have a good sense of his value on the open market. As Madden used to say, “he’s just ‘a guy.’” Could surprise people and return.
who do i think?
I have no idea.
Who do I want?
Manningham, Osi, Ross, Jacobs, TT(if healthy)
Those would be my priorities.
You down wit JPP?
I got 99 problems but a Vick ain't one!
why even include Canty?
dude’s a friggin beast, I wouldn’t even mention his contract unless he wants to restructure.
Osi, TT and Ross have the best chance of staying. Manningham too if he doesn’t have any big offers on the table. Jacobs seems to be going, but I wouldn’t be surprised if he stays.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
What's funny about the "luck" argument is
that the Giants beat 3 teams whose main method of winning was winning the TO differential battle. So by the Giants turning the tables on the TO battle they were able to beat those teams. Who’s to say those teams weren’t “lucky” all year in their ability to get and prevent turn overs? That maybe THEY were really 9-7 teams that managed to get a few “breaks”. TJ from ESPN has said you have to be able to win even if you don’t get turnovers because that’s who you really are. Well, the teams the Giants beat weren’t able to do that.
"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning
Crunked and Swagged out since 2011
"Let’s go out there like a bunch of crazed dogs and have some fun!" - The one and only LT
They were lucky
That’s why luck can’t be used as a detractive statement. Most good teams also happen to get the good bounces. There’s too much parity in todays nfl to have a team so dominant that they can overcome bad luck injuries and bad luck turnovers and still win. Luck exists but its not exclusive to the giants
by B-rod24 on Feb 8, 2012 6:18 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
I like this...
That maybe THEY were really 9-7 teams that managed to get a few "breaks".
Ask and you shall receive!!
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start with a clutch QB, dominant defense(last 6 games)
and of course a championship is a good possibility. This is the TC-Eli era. Dallas cowboys, please. Sean and Romo BWAAAAAA.
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