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We've all been there: It sucks to see another team win the Super Bowl when you feel like yours had the best season, and was the most capable. I, for one, was bitter about Super Bowl 43 after the Giants' great regular season. But...this Niners Nation post is a little absurd. Say what you will about some of BBV's editors' opinions, but at least they're all classy enough to never write something like

"[The Niners were] trumped by the team who was mostly absent. It's like when the slacker in school gets better grades than you, and you studied your tail off. This was a weird season for a lot of reasons, so I'm just going to chalk this Super Bowl up to that. Let's see how things differ next year with a full offseason in place."

I mean, seriously? How can you purport to be a sports journalist, or even an editorialist, if you act so entitled? Especially when that 13-3 record came out of the woeful NFC West.

Hats off to the Niners for putting together a great season, and for being a fun team to watch in those close games. But it's the Giants that won five straight elimination games and then won it all. Good luck to Bay Area fans in 2012.

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Not as bad as people outside the division seem to think.

by David Fucillo on Feb 7, 2012 12:57 PM EST reply actions  

It wasn't a condemnation of talent. We all think the Giants are good. Hell, I've picked 'em for the Super Bowl for the last couple years.

Hasn’t necessarily worked out for me lol .. but ya know.

And then God created Saturn ... and he liked it, so he put a ring on it. ... Always a ninja
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by James Brady on Feb 7, 2012 1:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Not all of you think the Giants are good

The guy who wrote that is pretty clear in his disdain. He’s very convenient in his analysis, it focuses almost exclusively on his points and ignores tons of contradicting evidence, like history and the very nature of a single elimination championship tournament.

I think it’s a credit to Niners Nation that the comments include a fair amount of rebuttal to the sour grapes tone of the writers piece.

Eli is our King!

by trueblue63 on Feb 7, 2012 2:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Thanks for pointing out the rebuttal

I’m not surprised you did that.

Ernie Accorsi to Wellington Mara upon drafting Eli Manning, "This kid id going to win you a championship, and he's going to win you more than one."
Ernie is the Man(ning)

by tommy d. on Feb 7, 2012 9:35 PM EST up reply actions  

This

This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.

by BB1156 on Feb 7, 2012 6:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Some think you're quite good

Seattle and AZ looked a year away. Better than advertised. I think any right minded fan who watched the NFC title game would say the Giants and Niners were pretty evenly matched.

Eli is our King!

by trueblue63 on Feb 7, 2012 1:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Absent

I’d agree the Giants weren’t absent during that elimination run. It’s an exaggerated comment to make a point. It’s purely opinion. This isn’t an issue of class or not.

by David Fucillo on Feb 7, 2012 12:58 PM EST reply actions  

It's a weird season and I'll chalk up the SB to that.

Not too much else would discredit the SB champion more. Except maybe to say they cheated or the league was fixed.

Ernie Accorsi to Wellington Mara upon drafting Eli Manning, "This kid id going to win you a championship, and he's going to win you more than one."
Ernie is the Man(ning)

by tommy d. on Feb 7, 2012 9:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Dylan doesn't speak for all of us. While I subscribe to the line of thought that we beat ourselves to a good degree, it obviously required two teams for it to happen.

I didn’t catch a post here about, say, our editor telling another one of our readers that he was wrong in saying the 49ers beat the Giants 8 out of 10 times? Where’s that post at? I think he said it was closer to 50/50. Is that something you guys wouldn’t agree with? This isn’t about class. The cross-blogging between NN and BBV was far too good to taint it with this now.

And then God created Saturn ... and he liked it, so he put a ring on it. ... Always a ninja
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by James Brady on Feb 7, 2012 1:01 PM EST reply actions  

Agreed, the cross-blogging has been great.

This one post would not change my opinion of that or affect how I will cross-blog, as you put it, in the future.

Just wanted to put that out there.

Ernie Accorsi to Wellington Mara upon drafting Eli Manning, "This kid id going to win you a championship, and he's going to win you more than one."
Ernie is the Man(ning)

by tommy d. on Feb 7, 2012 9:39 PM EST up reply actions  

He has an opinion, you have yours. Don’t insult the rest of our site and our fans over it ..

And then God created Saturn ... and he liked it, so he put a ring on it. ... Always a ninja
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by James Brady on Feb 7, 2012 1:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Right, again, of one person.

And then God created Saturn ... and he liked it, so he put a ring on it. ... Always a ninja
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by James Brady on Feb 7, 2012 1:19 PM EST up reply actions  

I am not the editor.

We’re a blog. I’m not embarrassed to have multiple opinions on the front page. I’d be embarrassed if I got so hurt over what one person said. The only reason I’m here right now is because I like BBV so much, have been rooting for the Giants for years and, frankly, want to clear up misconceptions. You’re a good guy and you guys have an excellent site here, but you’re making an awful lot about nothing – especially all this professionalism. This “and I’m sure you have a great site,” is a subtle dig that yes, I obviously have noticed. We do – and so do you good folks here. The difference is that I’m not going to pretend it’s not good because one person said something I disagree with. It happens a lot.

Congrats on the Super Bowl victory – legitimately and honestly.

And then God created Saturn ... and he liked it, so he put a ring on it. ... Always a ninja
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by James Brady on Feb 7, 2012 1:40 PM EST up reply actions  

editor

I’m the one who keeps track of what is posted. I disagree with plenty of opinions on the site, but I also am open to what people want to discuss and what people want to say as it relates to the 49ers. It’s been a tough two weeks for 49ers fans and I am fine with people wanting to unload a bit. It’s the nature of being a fan.

by David Fucillo on Feb 7, 2012 1:41 PM EST up reply actions  

site opinion

There is an accountability to some degree, but his opinion reflects that of probably a majority of 49ers fans at this point. The site is built around a community of 49ers fans. Other fans are more than welcome to join in, but a lot of 49ers fans do have sour grapes and his opinion reflects that. I personally don’t have sour grapes at this point, but my opinion probably does not reflect the majority of 49ers fans.

by David Fucillo on Feb 7, 2012 2:03 PM EST up reply actions  

I just find it entertaining. . .

that so many fans cite some unarticulated criteria of their own to judge who is or is not a better team.

If the criteria are not measured by on the field performance and results, what are they but speculative fantasies?

In the NFL team results re not measured by stats but by wisns and losses. And because schedules are not all equal, there’s a tournament at the end to decide who is the best.

It’s not complicated.

And that’s why all this other stuff is entertaining, because it’s so silly, churlish and immune to reason.

Just once I’d like to see one of these people say what their criteria for judging which team is best are. Besides what teams or players they like, I mean.

Now everyone will say Eli is in Bradys class. F*ck me

by PatNation85 on Nov 6, 2011 4:31 PM PST

by AJ_in_VA on Feb 7, 2012 2:51 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm not sure they can give you any specific criteria

that trumps wins and loses. But I’m sure, A J, you are very familiar with the criteria that is so often used to discredit our wins. Luck.

You know, the Giants are the luckiest team eva and get lucky, game, after game, after game with a dizzying multitude of good fortune be in with the bounce of the ball, the other team dropping passes, a missed or a bad call, injury, etc. etc.

Ernie Accorsi to Wellington Mara upon drafting Eli Manning, "This kid id going to win you a championship, and he's going to win you more than one."
Ernie is the Man(ning)

by tommy d. on Feb 7, 2012 9:48 PM EST up reply actions  

This says it all... by a NN poster

Congratulations to the Giants. Anything less than that is just massive whining.

by Jaxson876 on Feb 7, 2012

by Plaxico Burress on Feb 7, 2012 1:13 PM EST reply actions  

wow, succinct, and spot on

We just all need to remember what we are complaining about and not be hypocrites because we will be in the same position as these guys, maybe even next season.

Ernie Accorsi to Wellington Mara upon drafting Eli Manning, "This kid id going to win you a championship, and he's going to win you more than one."
Ernie is the Man(ning)

by tommy d. on Feb 7, 2012 9:50 PM EST up reply actions  

I think they would have bulldozed New England up and down the field...

I think those linebackers would have crushed Welker & Hernandez… battered brady like a Tiki bar in a hurricane.

I think the 49ers were at least as physically imposing as us, if not more, and certainly could have put one more win up had they beaten us.

You PLAY to WIN the GAME.
Dear Tebow, please let the Giants beat the Patriots.

by Simms-McConkey on Feb 7, 2012 1:56 PM EST up reply actions  

I disagree

Yes, they are at least as physically imposing as us defensively (if not more).

I don’t see their offense, however, being able to do what the Giants were able to do offensively, which is essentially play defense on offense. The 49ers didn’t have the receivers to exploit the New England secondary the way the Giants had. New England’s kryptonite all year has been 3 wide, which is something San Francisco doesn’t really have the personnel for.

My argument is that it takes a complete team to beat New England, because no matter how good you are defensively, if your offense can’t sustain drives, the Pats will score. It’s a matter of time. If you keep giving that offense chances, they will score. I don’t think they’d score a lot, but enough to win a close game over the 49ers.

Sort of like how the Philly game played out for us earlier this season (the loss). Our offense kept stalling, and no matter how good your D is playing, if the other team gets enough chances they are likely going to punch it in at one point or another.

But we will never know. I use Baltimore for reference. Not the same team, but similar, and the Pats did go toe to toe with them despite Brady playing like shit.

by Max Schwager on Feb 7, 2012 2:20 PM EST up reply actions  

I think SF

would have been able to run all over NE! Look what we were doing to them! I think they would have been able to push NE all over the field and SF’s front 7 would have crushed Brady.+

by eyerish9299 on Feb 7, 2012 2:27 PM EST up reply actions  

i dont . Pats have a real good run D.

Pats played 7 in the box all game . that prob wouldn’t have been the game plan vs SF.

I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.

Finally we get to see J Lin!!! Giant LB'zz

by Troy O on Feb 7, 2012 7:18 PM EST up reply actions  

hmm, good points I didn't consider

good thing we’ll never know!

You PLAY to WIN the GAME.
Dear Tebow, please let the Giants beat the Patriots.

by Simms-McConkey on Feb 7, 2012 2:28 PM EST up reply actions  

noooooobody?

Ernie Accorsi to Wellington Mara upon drafting Eli Manning, "This kid id going to win you a championship, and he's going to win you more than one."
Ernie is the Man(ning)

by tommy d. on Feb 7, 2012 9:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Agreeee

This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.

by BB1156 on Feb 7, 2012 9:54 PM EST up reply actions  

or as I read it
battered brady like a Tiki Barber in a hurricane.

by brisulph on Feb 7, 2012 3:14 PM EST up reply actions  

hahahaha

I thought the same thing at first!

by eyerish9299 on Feb 7, 2012 3:23 PM EST up reply actions  

LOL

Ernie Accorsi to Wellington Mara upon drafting Eli Manning, "This kid id going to win you a championship, and he's going to win you more than one."
Ernie is the Man(ning)

by tommy d. on Feb 7, 2012 9:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Great post Max, rec'd

Ernie Accorsi to Wellington Mara upon drafting Eli Manning, "This kid id going to win you a championship, and he's going to win you more than one."
Ernie is the Man(ning)

by tommy d. on Feb 7, 2012 9:52 PM EST up reply actions  

awwww

Are you just warming up for your annual draft-time ban?

You PLAY to WIN the GAME.
Dear Tebow, please let the Giants beat the Patriots.

by Simms-McConkey on Feb 7, 2012 1:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Dear god you two

every freaking year. Just don’t.

by brisulph on Feb 7, 2012 3:15 PM EST up reply actions  

hey!

I admit I know nothing about the draft & players. If we could all do that …

You PLAY to WIN the GAME.
Dear Tebow, please let the Giants beat the Patriots.

by Simms-McConkey on Feb 7, 2012 4:01 PM EST up reply actions  

I get a kick outta this

Die hard Giants fan since wide Right! I was 6...

I'm down wit JPP
Yea you know me

Win Ugly.
-Eli Manning for MVP

by wangstu13 on Feb 8, 2012 12:13 AM EST up reply actions  

ok i kicks

This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.

by BB1156 on Feb 8, 2012 12:20 AM EST up reply actions  

was that draft time?

Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows

by Rorschach44 on Feb 7, 2012 4:35 PM EST up reply actions  

I know it's a burden for you

being the world’s foremost evaluator of talent

You PLAY to WIN the GAME.
Dear Tebow, please let the Giants beat the Patriots.

by Simms-McConkey on Feb 7, 2012 5:57 PM EST up reply actions  

tough job but somebody's got to do it!

Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows

by Rorschach44 on Feb 8, 2012 9:18 AM EST up reply actions  

Noted.

This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.

by BB1156 on Feb 9, 2012 4:22 AM EST up reply actions  

read burden as Barden for a second haha

Faith is a refusal to panic

BB1156, Bobbiblue: I respect you two.

by Commander Prime on Feb 9, 2012 9:53 PM EST up reply actions  

As Giant fans we have to understand something

Champions fall into two categories

1) Dominant all time great monster
2) Lucky

If we go around wetting our pants every time some fan of some team that wishes they were us, that is green with envy over how we got these last two, that posts some smack talk. Well if we wet our collective pants that often, we’re going to be running around naked pretty soon.

Enjoy their bitter words, their sour grapes. Because I assure you that the elixir of the gods is made with sour grapes and salty tears. And there are plenty of those right now.

Eli is our King!

by trueblue63 on Feb 7, 2012 2:21 PM EST reply actions  

Their bitter words are the wind beneath my ass.

I got a GIF for that!
Giants by 17 over GB, take it to the bank!
Giants by 10 over SF, take it to the bank! Well, OK, by 3, but we are Super Bowl bound!!!!!!!
Giants will score 30 (correction 21 (damn FG's/failed 2 pt conversion)) or more points, NE 20 or less. Guess who wins? Take it to the bank!

by Fester McDougal on Feb 7, 2012 9:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Haha

This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.

by BB1156 on Feb 7, 2012 9:48 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't see the big deal...

To the first comment, the reason the slacker gets better grades then you even though you studied your ass of is usually because the slacker is smarter/better/more talented than you.

To the second comment (that Simms posted) he’s right! IF we hadn’t made the playoff most of us would have considered this a piss-poor regular season! We lost 4 games to teams we were vastly superior to. We went on a four game losing streak and had a negative point differential. BUUUUUT all this is what makes the NFL so amazing! ANY GIVEN SUNDAY! We got hot at the right time and stayed that way! I think the playoffs was more of indication of what this team really is and the proves that the regular season was piss-poor, we didn’t play to our abilities!

by eyerish9299 on Feb 7, 2012 2:22 PM EST reply actions  

I dont get it

The Giants are the Best “complete” team and hence won the superbowl (this year). We went up against some of the most prolific offenses (GB, NE) and matched them point for point, down for down. We went up against the most bad-ass d (49ers) and traded punts with the best of them. Spl teams were solid, if not unspectacular (unlike our o or d). We got a few good bounces – we got a few bad calls. We didnt have the luxury of playing in our home turf for much of the competition. While many of our players were “healthy?”, we played an entire season with regulars injured, regiulars on IR at the start of the season and every sunday – next man up (turnstile) philosophy. And we played the meanest schedule in the league. So, we won some, lost some in the regular season. And showed up to play – where it counted – in the single elimination phase. And brought it all home. Where’s the luck? Where’s the slacker in school?

by kayess on Feb 7, 2012 2:51 PM EST reply actions  

Haters are grasping at straws...

We finished 9-7, we lost 4 in a row at one point, we barely made the playoffs, that’s all they got. Everyone on this board feels much better about a 9-7 Super Bowl champ than a 10-6 non playoff team.

by Late for Dinner on Feb 7, 2012 5:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Lol

This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.

by BB1156 on Feb 7, 2012 6:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Meh.

Dude needs some cheese with that whine.

Look, we’ve had plenty of seasons where we did great in the regular season, and crashed and burned in the post season, when expectations were high (see also: ‘Plaxico Burris/leg shooting/downward-spiral-event’ season), it’s part of being a fan.

Ya just suck it up and look to the draft and next season.

Elwood: It's 106 miles to Chicago, we got a full tank of gas, half a pack of cigarettes, it's dark... and we're wearing sunglasses.
Jake: Hit it.

by ironindianrider on Feb 7, 2012 5:19 PM EST reply actions  

Seriously I grew up hating the 49er's they were an arch rival

It makes me feel good that 49r’s and Giants are rivals again, I love the fact that some of their fans hate our team. Can’t wait to play them again.

by Late for Dinner on Feb 7, 2012 5:59 PM EST reply actions  

How many lucky bounces does it take for a team to stumble into a Super Bowl championship?

that’s a hell of a bounce, when it keeps bouncing for 5 games and from coast to coast.

You PLAY to WIN the GAME.
Dear Tebow, please let the Giants beat the Patriots.

by Simms-McConkey on Feb 7, 2012 6:00 PM EST reply actions  

This.

This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.

by BB1156 on Feb 7, 2012 6:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Excellent, you also get a rec

Ernie Accorsi to Wellington Mara upon drafting Eli Manning, "This kid id going to win you a championship, and he's going to win you more than one."
Ernie is the Man(ning)

by tommy d. on Feb 7, 2012 9:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Book it!
Neither Harbaugh makes the playoffs next year

it’s in block quotes, so it’s true

I got banned from Jests Blog for saying Chad Henne has better stats than Mark Sanchez. And they think they're the big brothers in this town? LMAO try again little sisters!

Let's Go Giants!!!!

by maculis on Feb 7, 2012 8:02 PM EST reply actions  

Hummm
It has to be true since i read it on the interent

This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.

by BB1156 on Feb 7, 2012 8:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Noted!

I got a GIF for that!
Giants by 17 over GB, take it to the bank!
Giants by 10 over SF, take it to the bank! Well, OK, by 3, but we are Super Bowl bound!!!!!!!
Giants will score 30 (correction 21 (damn FG's/failed 2 pt conversion)) or more points, NE 20 or less. Guess who wins? Take it to the bank!

by Fester McDougal on Feb 7, 2012 9:45 PM EST up reply actions  

This.

This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.

by BB1156 on Feb 7, 2012 9:48 PM EST up reply actions  

I will take sucking in every otehr teams eyes every year if it means we take the SB every time. All i can say to the ones we faced in elimination you could not beat us when it mattered most period. That is where it matters. To All San Fran, Eagles, jets, and any otehr fan base who wants to say theey are better PROVE IT!!!! Because some of you haven’t won in awhile and some haven’t won yet. There is nothing their fan base can say about us winning 2 out of the last 4 SB’s. See ya next year and enjoy your miserable opff season of wondering how you can get a RING. becuse WE GOT A RING!!!

by Giantstep on Feb 8, 2012 3:32 AM EST reply actions  

I can understand a SF fan’s position. Both teams were pretty much even but they lost the game because of two stupid turnovers.

Formerly known as The Pied Piper

by tst29 on Feb 8, 2012 2:56 PM EST reply actions  

They did not

Step up and Make big plays

Faith is a refusal to panic

BB1156, Bobbiblue: I respect you two.

by Commander Prime on Feb 9, 2012 9:55 PM EST up reply actions  

San Fran couldn't convert a third down

turned the ball over when it mattered, and couldn’t control the clock.

That’s a failure.

If they want to cry about two turnovers from special teams costing them the game, then I get to complain that they were “only” in the game because of two plays from the same player (Davis).

This is a sig.

by Caseys Kiss of Death on Feb 9, 2012 12:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Lol so true.

This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.

by BB1156 on Feb 9, 2012 7:00 PM EST up reply actions  

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