Eli Manning: How Elite Is He?
by Ed Valentine on Feb 3, 2012 3:04 PM EST
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PrintIt is amazing how quickly and easily winning changes perceptions. The question about New York Giants quarterback Eli Manning is no longer whether or not he is an elite quarterback. The question is 'how elite is he?' and, to go a step further, how high could he rise on the quarterback food chain before his career, which is really only around its halfway point, concludes?
Manning has wanted no part of talking about his legacy -- especially what a second Super Bowl title would do for it -- as the 2012 Super Bowl against the New England Patriots approaches.
"You don't think about that as a player. You concentrate on the opponent, try to keep your mind focused on the job," Manning said. "If you get concerned with other things that takes your mind off what your job has to be this coming Sunday."
There are really two parts to the 'how elite is Eli?' question. Part 1 is the 'Could he wind up being better than Peyton?' question? Part is is the 'Would winning the Super Bowl on Sunday make Manning a Hall of Famer?' Let's take a look at both questions.
Could Eli Wind Up Being Better Than Peyton?
The answer to this is 'maybe.' The window on Peyton Manning's brilliant Hall of Fame career is closing, and might already be closed if the nerves in his neck don't regenerate enough for him to resume playing. Eli's career is just reaching its zenith, and there are many chapters yet to be written. I think we answer that questions five, six, maybe eight or 10 years from now.
There are some who are already saying that a victory Sunday against Tom Brady, which would give Eli two Super Bowl titles to Peyton's one, would mean Eli's career had already surpassed that of his brother.
I guess there is merit to that argument -- two Super Bowl titles is better than one. If Eli can get that second one he will have family bragging rights, if nothing else.
Will that make him better than Peyton? Let me answer that by asking a question of my own -- are you nuts? Giants fans should love Eli Manning, he is the best quarterback in the history of the franchise. He is not his brother, however.
Have you forgotten how good, no great, a player Peyton Manning is? Have you forgotten that Peyton threw for more than 4,000 yards in seven of his first eight seasons -- something Eli has done three times? Have you forgotten that Peyton has 11 Pro Bowl appearances and five All-Pro selections to two and zero for Eli? Have you forgotten that Peyton is considered among the best half-dozen quarterbacks to ever play the position, maybe the best, and that until a few weeks ago many people weren't convinced that Eli was any good, much less elite?
Peyton's career playoff record is 9-10 with 29 TDs, 19 interceptions and an 88.4 passer rating. His career rating is 94.9.
Eli's career playoff record is 7-3 with 16 touchdowns, eight interceptions and a passer rating of 87.5, five points higher than his career passer rating.
It is fair to say that Eli has generally been able to raise his level of play in the playoffs -- and in his only Super Bowl appearance. That is something Peyton has not been able to do.
So, let's say this is an open-ended question at this point. Advantage Peyton right now, but Eli would appear to have lots of time to make his case.
Would A Second Super Bowl Title Make Eli A Hall Of Famer?
I am going to say 'yes' to this question. There are currently only 10 quarterbacks with multiple Super Bowl titles, and the only eligible quarterback on that list who is not in the Hall of Fame is Jim Plunkett. Brady is headed there, and considering how much of his career is still in front of him Pittsburgh's Ben Roethlisberger probably is, too.
Shooting down the Brady-Bill Belichick duo twice would be a historic accomplishment in its own right. If Eli gets a second ring I would be hard-pressed to find an argument that would keep him out of the Pro Football Hall of Fame, especially when Bob Griese and Roger Staubach are in.
So, a nice little debate for a Super Bowl Week Friday afternoon. What do you guys think?
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Eli is easily top 10
If he wins Sunday he’s top 3-5. Just my opinion. I think he can be “better than Peyton”. Also remember that Eli had a major running game behind him for the early part of his career. Thats why his numbers are close to Peyton’s early years. If Eli had the Colts run game, he’d be pretty close to Peyton numbers.
Eli was top 10 prior to this year
somewhere in the 6-9 range. After his season this year he’s cemented himself in the top 4-6 area, and with a SB win he’s probably top 5.
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That is reasonable..
He has alot of years ahead of him…But he’s number 1 in toughness..If we hit Brady like the 49ers hit Eli..He’s done for…We just need a few hits on that little Squirrell..and he’s done…
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
What about Marshal Faulk?
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I got banned from Jests Blog for saying Chad Henne has better stats than Mark Sanchez. And they think they're the big brothers in this town? LMAO try again little sisters!
Let's Go Giants!!!!
Very different teams
Peyton’s team have always been built to maximize his all time great talents as a passer. The running game was always an after thought, even to the point where they drafted backs who were great passing catches out of the backfield.
Eli had run first teams for the first part of his career, especially when the dominant back that was Tiki Barber was here. Now the team is being built to take advantage of Eli’s now elite passer abilities.
The truth. The REAL voice of reason
First, let me say
I love Eli to death, and have had a jersey of his since his rookie season (now own two); however, when it comes to the comparison to his brother, it just doesn’t pass the eyeball test to me. Peyton Manning is one of those talents that transcends even his gaudy numbers, much like Marino did. Winning a Super Bowl this year won’t change that in my mind.
Eli may finish his career as the greatest Giant quarterback ever, with potentially multiple super bowl wins, but I still believe Peyton will be the better of the two in hindsight.
I love Eli
but Peyton Manning is the best quarterback that ever played.
You have to watch Peyton play to understand his brilliance, and we haven’t had that privilege in awhile. That’s the only reason we’re even having this discussion.
by el pope on Feb 3, 2012 3:18 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
This is %100 true
I guess in a sense all QB’s dissect defenses, make reads on the fly, and audible at the line. But the way Peyton does it is a work of art. I remember the game against the Jets in the playoffs a few years back. Peyton got destroyed in the first half and looked awful and then the 2nd half dissected their defense. It’s like he just baited them so he could figure out their blitz. Brilliant.
Peyton is great
But he is a rhythm quarterback. Eli is one of the few guys you’ll watch take hit after hit and still return the same guy. That’s the one thing I’ll say that Eli has over Peyton and Tom Brady.
Peyton also had Marvin Harrison and Reggie Wayne for years. Like Tom Brady, Eli has started his career with limited help and is now putting up numbers with solid weapons around him.
Making reads and running that offense, yes, Peyton is a machine. But Eli is a monster, a goddamn powerhouse that scares the shit out of me because we’re just at the beginning of his run.
I see this argument a lot but I don’t understand why. Check Harrisons stats before Manning got there. Not good at all. Check out Wayne’s stats this year, nowhere near what he’s used to. Take any receiver Peyton has had, and look at their stats before and after playing with him. Those receivers are great because of Manning.
Can I get some hot sauce for my doughnut?
Peyton manning is not the greatest QB who ever played.
He’s no brady or Montana, and that’s just modern era off the top of my head.
You PLAY to WIN the GAME.
Dear Tebow, please let the Giants beat the Patriots.
by Simms-McConkey on Feb 3, 2012 4:11 PM EST up reply actions
Peyton > Montana IMO
Montana played some greats , Peyton not so much. And not to take away too much but I mat have been successful in B Walsh’s system.
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
Giant LB'zz SUCK!! Mark Herzlich, Jacquian Williams,...Maybe .. Sadly this has been modified.
Montana played with some greats
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
Giant LB'zz SUCK!! Mark Herzlich, Jacquian Williams,...Maybe .. Sadly this has been modified.
Montana played against many a great QB..He's still Reigns as #1 IMO..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
then we agree to disagree.
Jerry Rice was that good.
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
Giant LB'zz SUCK!! Mark Herzlich, Jacquian Williams,...Maybe .. Sadly this has been modified.
think about this. ....(But still realize I think he was great. )
In the early 90’s Steve Young was able to complete 65- 70% of his passes in a time when that was unheard of. This and the Rice factor slightly diminish his status ..IMHO.
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
Giant LB'zz SUCK!! Mark Herzlich, Jacquian Williams,...Maybe .. Sadly this has been modified.
Amen
Watch the film the way the postion was played and the Wr were mugged the guy was smooth as silk and hardly made mistakes
"We are only going to score 17 points?" No Tommy Boy only 14.
Then you would have to like Bradshaw even more
Montana probably couldn’t have played in that era when Terry started, Turkey Joe Jones hit would have killed him
Eli is our King!
Montana is better than Brady. Brady had Venateri bail him out with Fgs on three superbowls.
This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.
That makes zero sense...
and I hate when people regurgitate that nonsense. Kickers never bailed anybody out. The one fg he kicked at the end of those games is useless and doesn’t happen without something called a football game going on before hand.
FIRE Perry Fewell
by bleedblue12 on Feb 4, 2012 12:20 AM EST via Android app up reply actions 2 recs
4-0 in the superbowl.
That’s why he’s greater than Moon, Marino … and Peyton.
You PLAY to WIN the GAME.
Dear Tebow, please let the Giants beat the Patriots.
by Simms-McConkey on Feb 3, 2012 4:31 PM EST up reply actions
Jerry Rice is considered by many
To be the greatest player to ever suit up, let alone the greatest receiver of all time. That’s a big advantage over all of the guys you mention.
Not to say Montana wasn’t great. Winning Super Bowls is great, but you see how much Peyton Manning was the Indianapolis Colts. The 49ers did it without Montana. The Pats went 11-5 with Matt Cassell. Matt Cassel!
The Indianapolis Peyton Mannings won 2 games without him.
obviously there are more factors at work
Yes, Jerry Rice is the greatest offensive player of all time. Would he be if he was catching balls from Kent Graham?
You PLAY to WIN the GAME.
Dear Tebow, please let the Giants beat the Patriots.
by Simms-McConkey on Feb 3, 2012 6:15 PM EST up reply actions
Or the other question
Is Phil Simms a Hall of Fame lock with Jerry Rice on his team? I would think so.
That’s why, to me, I consider certain players in the conversation (Brady, Manning, Montana), but it’s really hard to definitively say one is better than the other because so many different things come into play.
I guess, ultimately, you can
only weigh slightly for certain things. How good a guy’s receivers were, whether his D won the championships, who his coach was, what the era was.
For me, it comes down to several categories.
How many championships did the guy win? (and lose)
How clutch was the guy? (playoffs, end of game when behind)
How was his arm in terms of strength & accuracy?
What are his numbers like? (comp %, TDs, INTs)
mix those with a dash of lime and a teaspoon of sugar, strain out the variables above with scientific accuracy, and pour.
But you can see based on my criteria why to me, Brady & Montana top the list. And why Eli can get there.
You PLAY to WIN the GAME.
Dear Tebow, please let the Giants beat the Patriots.
by Simms-McConkey on Feb 3, 2012 7:14 PM EST up reply actions
I agree with Brady and Montana..There are others but these players..
Won championships..There are others older players and still others that won no SBs..It is very hard to determine who is the all-time best QB…I really don’t think it is just SB rings..There are so many gret QBs to consider..I don’t even want to try to put that list together..and I sure as hell don’t want to try to rank them..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Fair Enough
But Peyton Manning is head and shoulders above Brady and Montana in fourth quarter comebacks and game-winning drives, and I don’t think he gets any credit for that.
Fourth Quarter Comebacks:
Peyton Manning: 35
Joe Montana: 31
Tom Brady: 24
Game-winning drives:
Peyton Manning: 46
Tom Brady: 34
Joe Montana: 33
Montana also had more seasons. This isn’t necessarily a knock on Montana or Brady, but it does indicate that Peyton Manning has had to win more games for his team than people give him credit for, especially when you consider the numbers he’s put up. It’s not like he is throwing these games away early.
Also, other interesting stats:
Playoff Games with rating of 90 or better:
Peyton Manning: 8/19 (42%)
Tom Brady: 8/21 (38%)
Joe Montana: 14/23 (61%)
I agree, Eli can definitely be up there at some point. He needs to add a “W” this Sunday to his resume.
so I'd give Peyton a portion of the clutch category
but, I include playoffs in “clutch”
I think I’m in the dumb minority when it comes to undervaluing Peyton. He;s actually not in my top 5 all time… I will probably reconsider that after he retires. Guy’s a freakin genius.
You PLAY to WIN the GAME.
Dear Tebow, please let the Giants beat the Patriots.
by Simms-McConkey on Feb 3, 2012 7:56 PM EST up reply actions
Those are some eye popping ratings for Montana.
61% at 90 or better is damn impressive.
I love the greatest of all time QB debates, cause you can never “win” the argument, but you always end up learning something.
I like to look at all the numbers, all of the mostly unobjective info, and then rely on my eyes and my memory. It is impossible to say who was the best because there are just a ridiculous amount of variables involved, the great majority of which are beyond a QB’s control.
The best physically gifted QB’s I have ever seen are Elway, Peyton, Young, and Marino.
The best clutch guys/winners I have ever seen would be Brady, Montana, Favre, Bradshaw, Staubach. And I mean in the playoffs. If we are talking regular season as well than Peyton would be in there.
I still say, if I can have one guy to take me the length of the field in the final minute, it would be Elway
The truth. The REAL voice of reason
So those Super Bowls were Joe Montana vs the other team? I thought the whole 49ers team played.
This is always the only argument people have in the Montana or Brady camps. It’s a team game. Neither Brady or Montana played very well in their first Super Bowl, but because they happened to be on the winning team they get mega greatness points?
Can I get some hot sauce for my doughnut?
Agree. This is why i say that Tom Brady is not that super or elite. If it would have been for Adam Vinateri and co. (sp?) FGs Tom would not have his 3 rings.
Brady is overrated.
This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.
Agreed...you could almost make that statement absolute fact by just comparing the rules regarding the QB/WR from then and now.
But if you look at it seriously you don’t even need to take that into account.
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Just ordered FatHeads for all available Giants. Now I have something to aim at when punching holes in my wall.
when you think about it
if it wasn’t for the Giants, Montana probably has 6 rings and this is a discussion you can’t even have!
You PLAY to WIN the GAME.
Dear Tebow, please let the Giants beat the Patriots.
by Simms-McConkey on Feb 3, 2012 7:59 PM EST up reply actions
That's true!
Let’s hope that the Giants can prevent NE from getting another ring on Sunday. We seem to be a pretty efficient dragon-slayer.
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Just ordered FatHeads for all available Giants. Now I have something to aim at when punching holes in my wall.
Peyton/Eli
Ask yourself this;
How would each have fared if they had played on the other’s team?
Or or Belichik.
I heard some idiot host on WEEI
(Boston sports radio, for those unaware)
Talking about how if Eli wins another Super Bowl, the only thing it proves is that he’s a good tournament quarterback.
Ignoring the fact that it’s a pretty far stretch of the truth anyway, isn’t that the point?
These guys talk about Brady’s legacy, but completely ignore the fact that until 2007 (when the Pats assembled a superhuman receiving corps), Brady’s Hall of Fame resume was based on winning Super Bowls and nothing else (because his regular season stats were pretty run-of-the-mill). But nobody was arguing before 2007 that Tom Brady wasn’t a HoFer, because nobody was comparing Tom Brady to Ted Brady, his Dan Marino-esque older brother who put together more 4,000 yard seasons than anybody ever has.
The problem with Eli Manning is that he is drawing unfair comparisons because of his relation to one of the two quarterbacks in this era that could be considered the greatest of all time.
Eli is on the verge of Hall of Fame consideration, and with a win on Sunday, he’s damn near a lock.
Tom Brady and Peyton Manning are on the verge (and have been) for Greatest of All Time consideration. That’s what separates the two.
Jim Kelly is in the Hall. Let’s remember that.
by Max Schwager on Feb 3, 2012 3:23 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Here's my opinion...
Peyton and Eli and Archie and the whole family could care less..They have no rivalry..They support each other, care about each other..the only rivalry is being manufactured by a bunch of media idiots..I hate those morons, I really do…This Eli versus Peyton is a bunch of bullshit..The reall stinky kind, chunky..with smoking pies…They must laugh at these idiot fools writing up crap articles…Trying to make something out of something those two brothers could care less about..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
by Bobbiblue on Feb 3, 2012 3:24 PM EST reply actions 9 recs
Noted
I got a GIF for that!
Giants by 17 over GB, take it to the bank!
Giants by 10 over SF, take it to the bank! Well, OK, by 3, but we are Super Bowl bound!!!!!!!
Giants will score 30 or more points, NE 20 or less. Guess who wins? Take it to the bank!
by Fester McDougal on Feb 3, 2012 3:42 PM EST up reply actions
Boom
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Feb 3, 2012 3:45 PM EST up reply actions
I'm as huge an Eli and NYG fan as anyone but...
Peyton is THE MAN. He came out of college throwing darts, where it took Eli a bit of time to get to his current level. A lot of what we see now with the QB line calls, audibles, and using every bit of the 30 second clock, Peyton was doing that stuff years ago and in fact blazed the trail with that. And, I know I’m not the only one who would sit watching Peyton play while drooling and praying that Eli would someday be just a shadow of his brother. That is happening now, but he is not on Peyton’s level yet. Even if (when) the NYG win this SB, it will still take Eli time to get there. That being said, I do think that he will surpass his brother, if he stays healthy.
They will both be in the HOF...Someday...Peyton is already there..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Ok, without getting into minute details
I do it like this: 1st class – Peyton, Brady
2nd class – Rodgers, Brees, Eli MF Manning, maybe Ben, maybe Rivers
3rd class – Matty Ice, Hasselbeck, probably Cam already or at least will be there soon, probably Vicktim, maybe Ryan Fitz, Alex Smith, Romo, maybe Freeman
How you stack ‘em up inside those ranks we’ll just disagree on forever.
Phillip had an Eli year this year...Elis was last year...and he fixed it....I hope Phillip does because
I know him….Good guy
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Only time will tell...but you have comprised a list of the games best..
A career for a QB can end in one hard hit..So your 1st class list is already in the HOF..The rest who knows?..Including our guy…
That Cam Newton..he in my mind will fizzle out in two years..Vick?..I think he’s already fizzled out..The rest are big question marks…IMHO.
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
this was "current standings"
Rodgers may move into the upper class, but he doesn’t have enough of a track record. Let’s see what happens when Driver retires and they can’t afford to keep everyone, etc. Eli can certainly move there too, especially with another ring or 4. Ben, if he gets to 3, he starts to get into the conversation… Rivers… he’s gotta win one or he stays or drops. Vick on the way down, jury still WAYYY out on Cam, but I gotta say I was seriously impressed by him. Matt Ryan I think has the most move-up potential of the lower crew. Brees is what he is and probably gets to the HOF, but there’s still something about him that really doesn’t impress me.
Not sure I agree about Cam.
It’s is possible he fizzles out, I think a lot of it depends on the Panthers and how they develop him. There are teams in this league(Giants w/ Eli, Patriots, w/ Brady. Steelers w/ Ben, etc.), that can take a great quarterback that COULD be elite and make him so, and there are teams that would take that same quarterback and let him fall into average (Chargers w/ Rivers, Eagles w/ McNabb/Vick/anyone else they have ever had, Dallas w/ Romo).
Jury is still out on how the Panthers will use this opportunity.
Well that is why I said Cam will fizzle out..The Panthers have a very serious..
Problem..they need to build a team around him and soon..or he’s gonna get killed…
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Some odd reason, I read that as Eli MILF Manning.
I have a dirty mind.
by Revenge of the Fallen on Feb 3, 2012 9:08 PM EST up reply actions
Eli-He's my QB
I got a GIF for that!
Giants by 17 over GB, take it to the bank!
Giants by 10 over SF, take it to the bank! Well, OK, by 3, but we are Super Bowl bound!!!!!!!
Giants will score 30 or more points, NE 20 or less. Guess who wins? Take it to the bank!
You would have to ask his wife
I got a GIF for that!
Giants by 17 over GB, take it to the bank!
Giants by 10 over SF, take it to the bank! Well, OK, by 3, but we are Super Bowl bound!!!!!!!
Giants will score 30 or more points, NE 20 or less. Guess who wins? Take it to the bank!
by Fester McDougal on Feb 3, 2012 4:41 PM EST up reply actions
Honestly...
I don’t think Peyton is better than Eli, and I don’t think Eli is better than Peyton. I think they’re even. They do the same things, they prepare the same way.
The biggest advantage Peyton has is playing in the most QB friendly division in the league. (warm weather or domes all around). Which also happens to be historically weak.
Also, Eli has to deal with a media market that magnifies every mistake he makes, and then makes up reasons to hate him to get attention (ie: He doesn’t “LOOK” elite).
Eli=Peyton
by Raptor22 on Feb 3, 2012 3:44 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
But hopefully they are working together to figure out how to
slice and dice the NE defense!
I got a GIF for that!
Giants by 17 over GB, take it to the bank!
Giants by 10 over SF, take it to the bank! Well, OK, by 3, but we are Super Bowl bound!!!!!!!
Giants will score 30 or more points, NE 20 or less. Guess who wins? Take it to the bank!
by Fester McDougal on Feb 3, 2012 3:51 PM EST up reply actions
Heres a question?
If and when we win the Superbowl, who the hell cares what anyone says about our quarterback. We have him and you dont….advantage GIANTS!!!!…….GO G-MEN!!!!!
by weejer on Feb 3, 2012 3:51 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I care about the critics about as much as TC and Eli do..
Zilch
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Peyton has the resume
But Eli has the future. Until this year, I always thought Eli was in the borderline top 10 discussion most years. But he gets better every year and I always thought he’d come on slow and then have an awesome second half of his career.. He is now more accurate, better at reading the D and audibles (rivals Peyrton in this now), his field leadership, his ability to play through injuries has always been anmazing, his poise and movement in the pocket. He’s got it all now. If he wins this Sunday, Eli is in the top 3 to 5 category without question.
But none of that matters. What matters is the Giants and Eli might win another SUPER BOWL Sunday!! WOOHOOO!
Go Giants!
Joe Namath logic for picking the Pats to win
The Giants were helped along the way by Green Bay and San Francisco; those were two teams which gave the game to the Giants.
course they did Joe, of course they did
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Feb 3, 2012 3:54 PM EST reply actions
AND WHAT THE HELL DID BALTIMORE DO!?...WTF? .
by weejer on Feb 3, 2012 3:57 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 3 recs
The pathetic drunk
I got a GIF for that!
Giants by 17 over GB, take it to the bank!
Giants by 10 over SF, take it to the bank! Well, OK, by 3, but we are Super Bowl bound!!!!!!!
Giants will score 30 or more points, NE 20 or less. Guess who wins? Take it to the bank!
by Fester McDougal on Feb 3, 2012 4:00 PM EST up reply actions
Scary!!!
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
I just want to kiss you....
ya gotta love broadway joe this guy has got more ass than a toliet seat in the last 30 years.
"We are only going to score 17 points?" No Tommy Boy only 14.
Hmmmm Joe Namath picked the Giants last week..did he flip-flop???
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
yeap
I changed my pick mid-week, and I see the Patriots getting their fourth Super Bowl win
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Feb 3, 2012 4:06 PM EST up reply actions
Wow!!!..yep he's a drunkard..It's official..
I wonder what he’ll say tommorrow on Yahoo??…Oh nevermind..who cares..haha
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
you nailed it
who cares, lol
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Feb 3, 2012 4:11 PM EST up reply actions
stupid joe
has picked against the giants every single week since the jets.. keep it up joey! your endorsment is the touch of death
by Plaxico Burress on Feb 3, 2012 4:36 PM EST up reply actions
Ed, the headline boggles my mind...
If we are splicing various levels of Elite, what does it mean? Safe to say if you were starting a new league today and could draft right out of the NFL, Eli would be a top 3 pick. Simplest way I know to look at it.
I got a GIF for that!
Giants by 17 over GB, take it to the bank!
Giants by 10 over SF, take it to the bank! Well, OK, by 3, but we are Super Bowl bound!!!!!!!
Giants will score 30 or more points, NE 20 or less. Guess who wins? Take it to the bank!
I am so pissed.
Damn boss decide to call a meeting took up almost 3 hours talking about numbers and objectives for this year. Dude used up most of my BBV time. Now trying to catch up and trying to find what page to find the swagger chick. Don’t know why he couldn’t wait til next week.
Hahahaha!!!..Hang that boss!!!
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
This is an assault on your pursuit of happiness and I'm pretty sure it is unconstitutional!
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I heard his boss said...
noted
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Feb 3, 2012 6:10 PM EST up reply actions
How Elite is he?
He’s Elite, and he’s ours. That’s all I care about
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He's better than elite..He's Eli-ite!!
ALL IN !!
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
To me, Eli will never be > Peyton.
Simple reason. Peyton is #1 of all time. Hard to beat that.
Currently Eli is top 5. #5 to be exact, but his best 5 years are likely directly ahead of him.
And given all that, he would be a lock for the HOF with a 2nd ring.
Eli
is MY QB…who cares whom he compares to !!! if this team stays the course ELI could very well have 4-5 rings when its all said and done….for my money I’ll take a Manning…ELI or Big bro….Rogers Brady Brees….meh
kinda sorta almost in a slight way,think this team is gonna be special ,but dont quote me on it .....im drunk
Marino
for my $ is the Greatest of all Time..(subjective) Peyton is very similar to Dan….but Dan had 000000 help outside of his WR’s…..Montana,to me is probably the only other QB to stake a claim…i remember him taking a Chiefs team to the playoffs w/very little help…he Dan & Peyton are the best I ever saw…Fouts is my 2nd favorite all time
kinda sorta almost in a slight way,think this team is gonna be special ,but dont quote me on it .....im drunk
If you're a Marino/Fouts fan
why no love for Moon? For guys w/o rings, he’s statistically the best
You PLAY to WIN the GAME.
Dear Tebow, please let the Giants beat the Patriots.
by Simms-McConkey on Feb 3, 2012 5:32 PM EST up reply actions
Moon
I loved the way he played….he’s deff in my all time fav list..
kinda sorta almost in a slight way,think this team is gonna be special ,but dont quote me on it .....im drunk
one the prettiest downfield passers of all time...
Cunningham also threw a beautiful bomb.
by Step up and make big plays on Feb 4, 2012 12:54 AM EST up reply actions
We've barely finished the is Eli "elite" debate...
Do we need another one so soon?
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Here's why I think Eli is elite..He said he was..that's why
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
I tend to take Eli's word at this point.
Stats shmats…Eli went into GB and SF this season alone and he is playing in the Super Bowl…this year Eli is “Top 2”…at least.
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noted FACT
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Feb 3, 2012 6:11 PM EST up reply actions
I'd say he's an Aikman but transitioning to something better
Troy was never the best player on his team, like Eli was this year. Eli will never put up the numbers of a Favre and because of parity is unlikely to win as many rings as Bradshaw (who also wasn’t the best player on his team) but those are the next guys on the ladder. Let’s assume he never is the pure winner that Montana was and he’ll never have the stats of his brother or Marino.
But if he wins this week If think he’s right there with Brady.
Consider:
- Since his first full year as a starter the Giants have never had a losing season.
- The Pats have been a perennial contender with Brady, but in the year Brady only played one series they still went 11-5.
- Eli has had one HOF teammate – Strahan
- Like Bradshaw, Eli tossed away some games early in his career that made people doubt if he’d ever be good. That shows toughness, but it also shows that he’s not the pure talent Peyton and Marino are.
- Does anybody doubt that Eli could put up Brady’s numbers if he was running Brady’s offense? This year he did 95% of what Brady did running much less hurry-up and spread.
Blue is the color of melancholy and honesty
Green is the color of inexperience, envy and nausea.
Aikman
was deadly accurate and all great QB’s need a supporting cast. The only knock on Aikman is that he couldn’t handle inclement weather….he wasn’t an all weather QB
All true
Everyone is a product of their environment to some extent. Walsh made Montana. He made Young as well. They were great players and I’m not trying to downplay their careers, they deserve the accolades. But what would Walsh do wit Eli? I’d love to have seen that. I think he’d have the same success those guys did in their careers.
Not as big a Bradshaw fan during his career as some. He barely beat Hanratty out for the job early on. He had everything a QB could want. 2 HOF receivers, a granite O line and running game, a ferocious D to get him the ball again and again. He was never the accurate passer that some of the other greats showed.
Brady deserves the accolades. He took that offense to another level and it was mostly him (with a great line to allow him to establish that rhythm). He scares me this week. He and Belechick are not to be underestimated.
Go Giants!
Say what you want about Aikman but he was a great QB..His concusions did him in..
Just like what will do Rodgers in..just what did Young in..All great QBs all forced out of the game..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
You're right
I hate the guy now as an announcer. But he was deadly accurate and a great QB. As good as anybody during his era. That Dallas team was just loaded with great players.
Go Giants!
Eli was a really good QB prior to this year.
2004 to 2007 he was good. Inconsistent, elite at times but average on others so it basically meant for an above average QB. During that last SB run he became a really, really good QB. Something clicked. 2009 he took his game up another notch, 2010 IMO he took it a step further but it was masked by the INTs. 2011 he’s the same 2010 QB, just minus the turnovers.
ANd the thing is I think he could get better. Not just on his own, but we really do have merely an average player at the TE position, we could stand to have a better OL and also the RB position if there was a better receiver out there it would help Eli improve.
Eli’s Eli, his teammates could be upgraded at certain positions/
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
I like that
If he had 2008’s Oline for this year then the team would have posted a much better than 9-7 regular season record.
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Agree
The biggest thing he did this year, and I think it was the foremost thing in his mind all year during games, was that he stopped the turnovers. He’s also little better in almost every way compared to last year (when his other numbers were excellent). But the TO to TD rate was the key thing holding Eli. Great to watch that maturation this year.
Go Giants!
Read the link...typical ESPN...
eleven = twelve?
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Wow
Skip is so clueless. Maybe he should ask the Giants players about Eli being the unquestioned leader of this team instead of making crap up out of whole cloth.
And note to Steven A.: Eli is too nice a guy to say that he didn’t want Burress and his cancerous attitude back. He has guys he molded that are just as good and they are team players that show up for meetings and never show Eli up by throwing their hands in the air.
Go Giants!
Westchester County...that's where my ancestors are from.
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Yes Eli could end up better than Peyton
The numbers game is silly, put Peyton outdoors in the Meadowlands without 75% of the high draft picks being on offense and his production plummets.
But Eli still has to win on Sunday, he needs to keep winning in the next 7 years, and he’ll have to get to at least 3 Super Bowls. So its entirely possible.
As for the HOF. He’ll need to win Sunday or another year. HOF is for Stats and Titles or at least a ton of appearances in Super Bowl. One win is not enough. Lets re-visit this Monday.
Eli is our King!
Haha, you're right
I’m suddenly feeling superstitious. We should can the Eli is HOF material till Monday.
Go Giants!
Or late Sunday night...
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by nywins42 on Feb 3, 2012 5:08 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Hahaha!!!..You lucky SOB!!!!!
I have to clean up..my wife will be in Singapore…That is the only thing that scares me about this game..Waking up to a total mess..Coming downstairs looking around, scratching my head itching my nuts..“Where do I start?”
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
you go out
you come home and get drunk again
sooner or later she will be home to save you
You PLAY to WIN the GAME.
Dear Tebow, please let the Giants beat the Patriots.
by Simms-McConkey on Feb 3, 2012 5:33 PM EST up reply actions
Oh hell no that won't work!!!!
If she comes home to a mess I’m in quick-sand…
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Hire someone on Monday
I got a GIF for that!
Giants by 17 over GB, take it to the bank!
Giants by 10 over SF, take it to the bank! Well, OK, by 3, but we are Super Bowl bound!!!!!!!
Giants will score 30 or more points, NE 20 or less. Guess who wins? Take it to the bank!
by Fester McDougal on Feb 3, 2012 6:27 PM EST up reply actions
That's already on my list!!!haha!!
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
I'd like for you to pick out my Maids though Uncle Fester..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Something like this perhaps?
I got a GIF for that!
Giants by 17 over GB, take it to the bank!
Giants by 10 over SF, take it to the bank! Well, OK, by 3, but we are Super Bowl bound!!!!!!!
Giants will score 30 or more points, NE 20 or less. Guess who wins? Take it to the bank!
by Fester McDougal on Feb 3, 2012 8:58 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
yes please
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Feb 3, 2012 8:59 PM EST up reply actions
That will work..yes indeed!!!!.......Rec'd
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
I'm pretty confident, but you never know till its done
Eli is our King!
Or its the Eagles
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Damn that's what I was thinking
Eli is our King!
Got my SB Square numbers...Not Bad....
Giants 0 6
NE 0 4
I got a GIF for that!
Giants by 17 over GB, take it to the bank!
Giants by 10 over SF, take it to the bank! Well, OK, by 3, but we are Super Bowl bound!!!!!!!
Giants will score 30 or more points, NE 20 or less. Guess who wins? Take it to the bank!
Not bad at all..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Although I wish you had an 8 4 square...
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
all these "what if" scenarios
is THAT much hanging in the balance this Sunday?
Is Eli better than Peyton if the Giants win this Sunday?
is he not if they lose?
Is he the Best Giants QB if the Giants win? and what happens if they lose?
Also…Is he retiring after Sunday?
this topic has been done to death and just when i thought it was put to bed, it’s morphed into “how Elite is he?”
for real….it would be more appropriate if we were haing this convo about Simms
ok, let me have it.
Fire Fewell
bring it on
but it needs to be said.
it’s a TEAM and I know Eli went off this year but a 2nd ring will go a long way for a lot of players on this team.
frankly i don’t want to get into all that b/c I refuse to think about it, but a 2nd ring would go a long way in legitimizing more than just Eli….and TC for that matter.
Fire Fewell
i think its premature to talk it up
hes got to do it, and so does TC
after the game this thread could be a moment of shame, that BGN trolls will quote
Eli is our King!
The way I look at it is Eli is playing against Brady in the Super Bowl...
Peyton has nothing to do with it..at all..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
and thankfully that's exactly how Eli is looking at it too
I nkow it’s the “duty” of the blogs and media “experts” to discuss this, but it’s bigger than just Eil and Brady.
Fire Fewell
Theismann
on WFAN compared Beckum to Aaron Hernandez….boy do we wish!!!! Maybe LT’s hit hurt his head too
Beckum has shown signs, but not consistently...
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
One problem for Beckum has been...
We have needed Ballards size for blocking. In basketball terms he is a tweener, not big enough for TE, not quick enough for WR
its how they use him
Beckum, WR = good, big possession receiver
Beckum TE = bad, undersized, can’t get off the line
Beckum HBack = useless because KG doesn’t use that position in his offense
What about YA Title???
No luv, no luv
I got a GIF for that!
Giants by 17 over GB, take it to the bank!
Giants by 10 over SF, take it to the bank! Well, OK, by 3, but we are Super Bowl bound!!!!!!!
Giants will score 30 or more points, NE 20 or less. Guess who wins? Take it to the bank!
YA Title..his greatness is part of our Giants heritage...and always will be..
Now I only saw him play once and was way too young..but My Uncle used to come over and watch the Giants..So I sat on my Dads lap and would just listen to them as they watched the game..I do remember this: “Look Daddy that man is bleeding !!”..It was quite a few years before I really understood the game…My Uncle died and then three years ago my Dad died..So now I have my Sons to talk to and watch the games with..Except that 12 year-old Sandhill Crane fan..I just send him upstairs..haha..But every game I watch reminds me of all the good time my Dad and I had..Iwas able to get season tickets in ‘84..and the first time my Dad went to a game was a Monday night game against the 49ers..Well I got up to get me and him a coffee…I came back and it was 14-0..I asked him “What happened Pops??”..He said Jerry Rice just caught two touchdown passes..but he was and I was very happy to see games live together, after all those years of him on the roof moving the Antenna and waiting for me to holler ..“Got it !!”..to going to games for three years together..Oh, our tailgate?..He made sandwiches and brought a thermos of coffee..I brought some beer..not alot…It’s kinda funny when I think back about it..I went from a little runt on his lap watching football with him to him at the stadium acting like a little kid in a candy store…This is what makes this game so special..On Sunday, two teams will play to win the ultimate trophy in sports..But more importantly there will be Dads cheering their teams on with their Sons and Daughters..Making memories that will last a lifetime, and get past down from generation to generation..what a great thing that is..win or lose..We have our memories and our families..There are no losers when you think of it that way..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Great story. I want this win for my dad.
He is 84 and in failing health, this will be his last SB. My early memories were stories of Rosie Brown and Rosie Greer, and watching Homer Jones catch the “bomb”. Every Sunday, there were be screaming and hollering. I even remember one game and the old b/w was on the fritz, and the only way to get the picture was for me to sit beside the TV and hold the rabbit ears. I said " Dad, I can’t watch the game" So what did he do? Took a mirror off the wall, and put it in a chair facing me. So as you can imagine, numbers , names were all backwards. LOL Put we enjoyed the game. We talk every game, during and after. So, that is why I want this one so badly
I hope you get the chance to watch it with him..Tell him you know a fellow fan..
Who is rooting for him as much as I am the Giants..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Last year I had season tickets
Funny, was on the list FOREVER. Then one day the phone rings and wham, I can get season tickets. Well living in Plano, Texas is a road trip, but I decided to get them for 1 year. I held out a few weeks and they dropped the PSL cost to nothing. So we saw 2 games last year, and I let my sisters who live there use the rest of them. He was in awe, as was I of the new digs. I remember him asking me how much the tickets cost me, and I replied " not enough"
That's great just great!!
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
See my avatar? i have that there for a reason. This is Giants grit pic.
This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.
that is cool
I like that I am living near my dad. I get to bring my sons over to watch the SB with him. Only the 7 year old really gets what is happening, the 4 year old like green uniforms, the 2 year old is clueless, and the 2 month old cries. It makes great memories though.
False start
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Eli is playing light out right now.
As for elite, not quite yet. I have said that he is elite, but thinking about it, I would say he is on the edge. I like Eli alot, but to put him in the elite category, he needs to have more light outs seasons. Eli is growing and getting better as a qb, but he needs to play at this level on a consistent basis. Thats what separates the elite qbs from the others. Big Ben has shown he is a consistent elite qb, Brady has shown he is a consistent elite qb, and so forth for Brees and Rodgers. If Eli can continue to play lights out for, at least, two consecutive seasons, then no question about it. Eli will be an elite qb.
Here's a strategy..
Put Petrus in and have hin shout out blocking assignments..that’ll fuck the Patriots up…
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
*him
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Hahahahahaha!!!!..Yeah perhaps a bad strategy..LOL!!!
Unless TC tells them not to pay any attention to him…
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Motivation
I wonder what Coughlin and the Captains are going to do to get them pumped before the game.
Hopefully, show them something that either fires them up, soothes any doubt, or pisses them off so much they go out there and explode to the tune of a big blue blowout
Faith is a refusal to panic
BB1156, Bobbiblue: I respect you two.
Well they are locked downed now..They know what they have to do...
They believe in themselves and their Coach..So now we just wait and see..I’m still sticking with my 38-24 score..The Humble Commode ..does not lie…
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
I finally got my prediction ready
28-21 Giants
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Feb 3, 2012 8:35 PM EST up reply actions
You been reading my Sig?
I got a GIF for that!
Giants by 17 over GB, take it to the bank!
Giants by 10 over SF, take it to the bank! Well, OK, by 3, but we are Super Bowl bound!!!!!!!
Giants will score 30 or more points, NE 20 or less. Guess who wins? Take it to the bank!
by Fester McDougal on Feb 3, 2012 8:59 PM EST up reply actions
great minds think alike
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Feb 3, 2012 9:00 PM EST up reply actions
I think TC will just continue to put emphasis on to just...
Finish. He will remind them how hard this road has been, and how they are " battle tested". Take care of the ball, keep cool and no stupid penalties, and attack, attack, attack. Oh yea, have some fun. They deserve it.
BIG BLUE
OT
but did any1 hear abt Goodell wanting to add more teams to the league?
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Albany NY needs one!
I got a GIF for that!
Giants by 17 over GB, take it to the bank!
Giants by 10 over SF, take it to the bank! Well, OK, by 3, but we are Super Bowl bound!!!!!!!
Giants will score 30 or more points, NE 20 or less. Guess who wins? Take it to the bank!
by Fester McDougal on Feb 3, 2012 8:59 PM EST up reply actions
it will be really hard to add more markets
36 would be the best number to have (2 more teams per conference). Adding 4 cities is very difficult
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Feb 3, 2012 9:03 PM EST up reply actions
Oklahoma and Idaho
The Spuds and the Puds.
I got a GIF for that!
Giants by 17 over GB, take it to the bank!
Giants by 10 over SF, take it to the bank! Well, OK, by 3, but we are Super Bowl bound!!!!!!!
Giants will score 30 or more points, NE 20 or less. Guess who wins? Take it to the bank!
by Fester McDougal on Feb 3, 2012 9:04 PM EST up reply actions
hahahaha
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Feb 3, 2012 9:04 PM EST up reply actions
I've been lobbying to get a franchise down in Atlantis...
But apparently the NFL is a stickler for breathing “AIR” so it’s been extremely hard for my plan to gain any traction. Hey…I wasn’t the one who decided that humans can’t breathe underwater so I don’t see why I, or the good citizens of an underwater paradise, should be punished for that.
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I can see it now... its a great idea
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Feb 3, 2012 9:30 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
We need to get this photo into Goodell's office!
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Also...wouldn't the football float?
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not if it's one of those lead balloons Bobby Douglas used to throw for the Bears
when he wasn’t running for his life
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Feb 3, 2012 9:45 PM EST up reply actions
HA!
second hardest…
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BOOM
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The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Feb 3, 2012 9:53 PM EST up reply actions
Bro...time isn't moving fast enough...
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and...
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by nywins42 on Feb 3, 2012 9:59 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
hahahahahahaha
Rec this
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Feb 3, 2012 10:19 PM EST up reply actions
Hahaha!!!!
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
That would mean more games?
Would it not?
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Eli quote and it is oh so true
“What happened in the last Super Bowl doesn’t matter,” Manning said. “What happened in the last game of the season doesn’t matter. It’s about what we do on Sunday and what we do in this game.”
I got a GIF for that!
Giants by 17 over GB, take it to the bank!
Giants by 10 over SF, take it to the bank! Well, OK, by 3, but we are Super Bowl bound!!!!!!!
Giants will score 30 or more points, NE 20 or less. Guess who wins? Take it to the bank!
This is HILARIOUS!
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hahaha
all you need is a little… luck
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Feb 3, 2012 10:25 PM EST up reply actions
That was AWESOME
“She’s underage….Yup, Roethlisberger.”
Dead dog….. Yup, it’s Vick
“And Favre’s text message is on her phone….eewww.” LMASSOFF
Based on the Favre’s package it looks like he could use a pistachio shell as an athletic supporter. And yup, I’m eating pistachio’s right now, you just never know where your joke material is gonna come from. :-)
The truth. The REAL voice of reason
Hahahaha!!!!!
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
With the great group of WRs he has now
and in his prime he very well could move into the top 5 QBs of all time. With a SB title he probably becomes a HOF shoo in. This is where his name becomes a plus, Manning NFL royalty. He really has had no bad seasons in his resume since his first full year at the helm. Lord he throws a beautiful longball. Wish he could have played his career in a dome instead of a wind tunnel. Any questions about the draft day trade now?
Top 5
I think He is top 5 now.. but if sumone wants to put Rothlisrapist ahead of him, im fine with that.. but if Eli wins on Sunday, then he moves ahead of Rothlisrapist into 5th behind Brady Peyton, Rodgers, and Brees. I dont think its fair to Peyton to compare them though. Peyton has played alot longer AND was good alot quicker than Eli.. i think when both are done, eli’s stats wont be as good as Peyton’s, but i get feeling Eli might be considered better, because he won more big games than Peyton, fair or not.
Top QBs
I saw someone do this in here and I feel it’s the right way to order QBs, also no particular order
1st class: Brady, Peyton
2nd class: Rodgers, Brees, Eli, Stafford (stats don’t lie, still getting better)
3rd class: Roethlisberger, Rivers, Romo, Ryan, Newton
1st class basically means already a HOFer, been successful for a long time, playoff success while dominating year in and year out.
2nd class means if they keep up their pace then they will most likely become a HOFer, they have been very successful, just have to keep it up. Have had playoff success, basically just need years under the belt. Rodgers, Eli, and Stafford are still relatively young also. Brees is borderline 1st class.
3rd class means that they’re still pretty successful and pretty dominate. Also means that they’re probably still pretty young, need some more playoff success/years to prove themselves. In Big Ben’s case, he’s had obvious playoff success, it’s just about taking his QB game to the next level. Still these guys are no average Joes.
"Just reload my weapon, you know?" - Artem Anisimov
"We are going to come to Philadelphia, and we are going to win." - Mr.Sather
"I'm not a screamer or yeller. If I would try to scream and yell at people, it's not what I'd naturally do. So if I tried to do that, it would be awkward, I think." - Eli Manning
How can you put Eli and Roethlisberger in separate places? I’m not saying one is better than the other, but they definitely belong on the same level. I’d personally put them both in 2nd class.
I’m actually pretty offended that you put Ben in the same class as Romo. Now I feel dirty lol
Can I get some hot sauce for my doughnut?
Aikman
Aikman talked to Francesa yest on the FAN. Very complimentary on the Giants. Nice to hear. I dont do SB pools when the Giants are in it. No distractions from the game!
Yes Aikman picked the Giants while Joe Montana picked the Patriots.
This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.
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" In a very similar amount of attempts, Peyton was significantly better at getting the ball downfield WHILE still being significantly more accurate. He threw significantly more TD’s, threw less interceptions, and got sacked FAR fewer times. Basically, he was better. By a lot."
Thank you for this
People have forgotten the greatness of Peyton. He was the Indianapolis franchise. he controlled his offense. His awareness and understanding of the game are incredible. I’m glad you mentioned it, because people too easily forget.
Believe!!!!!!!!
If the Colts don't keep Peyton...News down here says the Dolphins are hot on his trail...
So given he says he’s going to play and I believe him, then the Fins will go hot and heavy after him..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
“You don’t think about that as a player. You concentrate on the opponent, try to keep your mind focused on the job,” Manning said. “If you get concerned with other things that takes your mind off what your job has to be this coming Sunday.”
You listening Joe Flacco?
Can I get some hot sauce for my doughnut?
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