NFL Scouting Combine Open Thread
by Ed Valentine on Feb 25, 2012 1:17 PM EST
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by pataroons on Feb 25, 2012 1:22 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Naaah just the Manningham arguements lol
This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.
Not that it's a HUGE deal, but Dwayne Allen isn't as fast as I thought he was.
4.48-40
Ladarius Green is a freak. 4.47-40
Fleener did not run.
bad as in good?
like badass?
Win another SB...CHECK!
Prove all the naysayers wrong...CHECK!
Stock the team with a young, core group of studs...CHECK!
Damn it's good to be a fan of the NYG
Let's Go Giants!!!!
For me it's not so much the time taken on its own.
Gronk ran a 4.6 at 6’6"-250. It’s hard for tall guys to run fast.
Ballard ran a 4.8 at 6’6"-250/260ish
Allen is only 6’3", which is why I kind of wish he ran faster.
Think about it this way. Green is as tall and heavier than Ramses Barden, but Barden ran almost a full second slower.
None of this means that Green will be better than Allen. It’s all just part of the picture.
it's not the end-all-be-all for sure
but like you said, he’s short to begin with, so he’s short and slow… not exactly what I’m looking for in a 1st round TE. That being said, he could be a HOFer, who knows?
I think you mean he ran a full 0.14 seconds faster than Barden
Eli is our King!
I don't want a track star that can come out of the blocks
I want a TE that can block, get open and catch.
screw the combine. All I hope is that it other teams put way too much stock in this kinda stuff.
You down wit JPP?
I got 99 problems but a Vick ain't one!
yeah but
people on here were comparing him to V. Davis
Win another SB...CHECK!
Prove all the naysayers wrong...CHECK!
Stock the team with a young, core group of studs...CHECK!
Damn it's good to be a fan of the NYG
Let's Go Giants!!!!
Brandon Pettigrew was the comparison to Allen
Davis ran under 4.40 no one expected Allen to be remotely like that
Eli is our King!
Good
4.78 is fine, He’s quick. Now he’ll fall to the Giants
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
Try 4.89
Now that looks pretty bad. He does look a lot faster than that when he ran his routes but it still looks bad. He is also only 6’3 I usually like bigger TE’s
by michaelkhan3 on Feb 25, 2012 7:22 PM EST up reply actions
it was 4.78
and he plays faster then that.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
Yup maybe in the 4th round
A TE with that 40 time who isn’t 250-260 ain’t getting drafted high
Eli is our King!
And I'll add that Fleener probably isn't a 1st rounder either
For every Gronk there are 10 guys that look similar who just wash out
Eli is our King!
Cordy Glenn
Win another SB...CHECK!
Prove all the naysayers wrong...CHECK!
Stock the team with a young, core group of studs...CHECK!
Damn it's good to be a fan of the NYG
Let's Go Giants!!!!
having him at RT or LG would be awesome
Eli Manning is The Boston Strangler
The 2011 New York Giants = The best 9-7 team of all time
ALL IN!!!!
by JasonPierrePwned on Feb 26, 2012 1:09 AM EST up reply actions
LG for sure...T in case of injury emergency, then you could bring Petrus in
Win another SB...CHECK!
Prove all the naysayers wrong...CHECK!
Stock the team with a young, core group of studs...CHECK!
Damn it's good to be a fan of the NYG
Let's Go Giants!!!!
Cannot understand anything Petrus says. lol
This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.
you and me both
Win another SB...CHECK!
Prove all the naysayers wrong...CHECK!
Stock the team with a young, core group of studs...CHECK!
Damn it's good to be a fan of the NYG
Let's Go Giants!!!!
i have deciphered some of the stuff he says to female journalists
&^%$$## = C’MON
(&&^%$$#ohy## = YOU AND I
$%#)&$%##@ = ON THE FLOOR
$&^@)^">< = NO CLOTHES
&^%$###@ = RIGHT NOW
This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.
JR specifically said in todays conference
That he looks for “good players” and that isn’t position specific. He said they would “address” the TE issue in draft or FA.
Considering how in the past three or four years we addressed need in FA as well as how bad the top TEs look, I’m going to go ahead and bet on us grabbing one in FA. Don’t be surprised if we go DL in the first.
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 25, 2012 2:05 PM EST via Android app reply actions
Who would be surprised by that at this point
I was surprised when mayock said no tightend had a first round grade but considering what’s happened that will probably be the last time I question mayock on anything
"Tom Coughlins hugging Flava Flav, What in the world is happening here!"
-Rich Eisen
by sejo28 on Feb 25, 2012 2:09 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Yeah, I've tracked Mayock the last five years. Guy is almost always right on. No one is right all the time. But he's right often.
Allen did 27 on the Bench. Fleener did 27.
Fleener may be on the Giants radar
I know he’s leaner, but he’s tall and can put more weight on if he has to. If we took him I’d give him a few weeks with Pat to work on his blocking, because the receiving skills are already there.
we've already tried that type of project
Lady Beckum I believe was the last TE that couldn’t block that Pope had to work with.
Give Pope someone who is built like Bavaro, and we’ll get a quality product out of it.
You down wit JPP?
I got 99 problems but a Vick ain't one!
But Fleener is 3 inches taller and about 10-15 pounds heavier
I think he has a much better chance of fitting into the Giants offensive system. He’s been described as a “raw” blocker, which means he has the ability, just needs the coaching.
I love that you used my appointed name
for Lady Beckum.
Sister Mary Beckum is a good alternative.
We want a Bavaro, not a sister.
All the Giants should play like Mark Bavaro.
TQ, DD and KMac Must Go!
TC, PF, KG, will stay but should go for the long term good.
It is equally worthless when people are always optimistic or always pessimistic. Either way I take their opinion with a pound of salt because I know they only have one setting. I post my own thoughts, not what either side wants to read.
by UnknownJintsFan on Feb 25, 2012 8:01 PM EST up reply actions
Why do people call Beckum lady etc? That guy worked hard for us and got hurt in the superbowl.]
This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.
if we do go TE in the 1st, then yeah, I want Fleener
if not…Egnew could be intriguing later on.
Win another SB...CHECK!
Prove all the naysayers wrong...CHECK!
Stock the team with a young, core group of studs...CHECK!
Damn it's good to be a fan of the NYG
Let's Go Giants!!!!
Nice Choice
C.Fleener could be our pick at 64. I like getting P.Konz/OC Wisconsin to be our starting center first. Then gettign C.Fleener/TE Stabford with our second pick and K.Zeitler/OG Wisconsin with our third pick.
Not to bad, three young, talented starters with our first three picks.
I would love that
Zeitler and Konz were dominating at Wisconsin and I really like Fleener. I think we get a OT and an inside guy in this draft
by michaelkhan3 on Feb 25, 2012 7:29 PM EST up reply actions
2 interior OL in the first three rounds, for a team that has taken what 2 OL in the first 3 rounds since 2004?
I’m gonna say not likely
Eli is our King!
Not Likely?
The problem is there is an opportunity to retool the Offensive line this year.
Your right not since 2004 it has happen. Well, the need is now and for the big picture. Let’s say we A.Datko in the fourth round.
Konz/Zeitler/Fleener/Datko is sure better then Booth/Snee/Baas.
In case you did not notice we had to live on E.Manning passing the ball.
So why not bring in talent to protect him better and open it up A.Bradshaw to have more breakaway runs.
Add D.Diehl ito the mix as a OG next year.
Injured Reserve?
Practice Squad is better like Perriloux, you cna activate a player when you need to from here instead of IR
This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.
Osi...to the Saints
"Everybody talks about a dynasty. OUR dynasty starts today." -Michael Strahan (before Super Bowl 42)
Why the Saints?
Why not an AFC team, if they move him?
Ricky Williams retired....Cue up Bob Marley,
"Excuse me while I light my spliff"...
by Great Gatsby on Feb 25, 2012 2:12 PM EST up reply actions
Saint need pass rush
But they don’t have that many picks this year so eh. I was asking which guy we would draft in the 1st though.
I know...just clowning
sorry
"Everybody talks about a dynasty. OUR dynasty starts today." -Michael Strahan (before Super Bowl 42)
Lol I knew that
But for real, I think we’d probably go after Whitney Mercilus or Nick Perry or Vinny Curry. All high motor pass rushers.
Curry
is only 6’3’’, not the prototype for a Giant DE
Ricky Williams retired....Cue up Bob Marley,
"Excuse me while I light my spliff"...
by Great Gatsby on Feb 25, 2012 2:22 PM EST up reply actions
I'm just guessing Spags needs a guy...
It’s really impossible though with the money they are going to have spend to keep Brees in NO
"Everybody talks about a dynasty. OUR dynasty starts today." -Michael Strahan (before Super Bowl 42)
Using your theory
Saints don’t have to do anything with Osi, under contract. My guess whoever
trades for him is going to MAKE him earn his next one. He is new to that team!
Ricky Williams retired....Cue up Bob Marley,
"Excuse me while I light my spliff"...
by Great Gatsby on Feb 25, 2012 2:16 PM EST up reply actions
Yes...that is actually what would happen
"Everybody talks about a dynasty. OUR dynasty starts today." -Michael Strahan (before Super Bowl 42)
he won't go unless they agree to a new contract
Win another SB...CHECK!
Prove all the naysayers wrong...CHECK!
Stock the team with a young, core group of studs...CHECK!
Damn it's good to be a fan of the NYG
Let's Go Giants!!!!
Osi to the Giants
Hometown discount… and another ring
You down wit JPP?
I got 99 problems but a Vick ain't one!
Fletcher Cox
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 25, 2012 2:21 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Ah, I remember you saying something about him over on MTD
But he’s a DT no? I think this would mean the end of Bernard and maybe Canty. Since we’re talking about DT’s though, what about Brandon Thompson? I’ve heard a lot of good things about him, and he’s going to be there at pick 32
Canty will be starting for 3 more years.
He’s a force, and we have him under contract.
I know
But Canty is also going to be sharing time with Linval and maybe Austin, who once he gets back into football, could be a force. If we add another top guy into our DT rotation, as well as Tuck spending time at DT, Canty wouldn’t be around long
Marvin Austin oozes potential...
But is now 1 year behind in his transition into the NFL.
You mean to tell me there isn't ONE photoshopped image of Optimus Prime with a New York Giants logo?? RIDICULOUS!!
I think next year is Canty's last
Win another SB...CHECK!
Prove all the naysayers wrong...CHECK!
Stock the team with a young, core group of studs...CHECK!
Damn it's good to be a fan of the NYG
Let's Go Giants!!!!
Any of those guys
Brockers is consensus best DT…after that….
Still, Worthy, Cox, Poe, Thompson all have first round grades
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 25, 2012 2:26 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
True
But Still goes early I think, and I’ve never been a big fan of Poe. Cox, Worthy, and Thompson have my interest.
Poe is best 1tech
And we could use one of those. Cox is real good 3tech
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 25, 2012 2:31 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Hes played both. I like canty and austin and bernard as 3techs tho.
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 25, 2012 2:37 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Linval is a big boy, I think he'll be a pretty good 1tech
You’re right, everyone else is a 3tech though. Especially Austin, who from what I heard could even play a 5tech. But Austin is rather unproven, which is why I’d be on board with another DL, because Austin hasn’t played football in 2 years now. That’s a real long time, no matter how good a guy was before hand.
Yup, just saying we could use
A little more beef on the line
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 25, 2012 2:45 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
I agree 100%
One of our keys to success is a dominant DL, which is why we can get away with average LB’s. A few guys over at MTD are big fans of Chandler Jones. I like em too, plus he wouldn’t be a 1st rounder. Could be a monster in our rotation. But imagine how mad people would be if we got a guy like Cox/Thompson in the 1st, and then Jones in the 2nd/3rd round
What in the Sam Hill is 1tech?
I got a GIF for that!
Now is the time to prepare for the "one for the thumb!"
JR will trade UP in the draft...Take it to the bank!
by Fester McDougal on Feb 25, 2012 4:09 PM EST up reply actions
the #-tech terminology deals with where DL line up in relation to the OL
0-tech = directly over center
1-tech = off center/guard
2-tech = over guard
3-tech = off guard / tackle
4-tech = over tackle
5-tech = outside tackle
You PLAY to WIN the GAME.
Dear Tebow, please let the Giants beat the Patriots.
by Simms-McConkey on Feb 25, 2012 4:18 PM EST up reply actions
That's why the wide-9 means 9tech
all the way a couple yards past the tackle.
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 25, 2012 4:33 PM EST up reply actions
I thought it was because
it averages giving up 9 yards per play
You PLAY to WIN the GAME.
Dear Tebow, please let the Giants beat the Patriots.
by Simms-McConkey on Feb 25, 2012 4:41 PM EST up reply actions
that too.
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 25, 2012 4:41 PM EST up reply actions
That's funnier than mine
"Everybody talks about a dynasty. OUR dynasty starts today." -Michael Strahan (before Super Bowl 42)
Might as well be sitting on the bench
"Everybody talks about a dynasty. OUR dynasty starts today." -Michael Strahan (before Super Bowl 42)
Well if they are BPA then we might grab that guy
This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.
No Need For D-Line
Everybody is forgetting we have a stud that did not play last year waiting in the wings this year. Marvin Austin is going to do very well for us this year.
D line will be fine and LBs seem to be doing good.
we just need some LBs for good rotation
This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.
A DL would suck
if it’s not Brockers or Coples.
World Series attitude, champagne bottle life, nothing every changes so tonight is like tomorrow night.
With the way the OL are performing
Big difference between elite guys and non-elite prospects…so elite guys will get pushed up further and consequently drop a boatload of talented DL near our draft range. Just a hunch.
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 25, 2012 2:29 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
I can't agree with that
depends on how the board falls and who the BPA is. Some of these DL would look really good in a rotation with JPP, Tuck and co.
BBI
Weren’t you beating the drums for Allen the other day? Don’t get too caught up in the combine.
Ricky Williams retired....Cue up Bob Marley,
"Excuse me while I light my spliff"...
by Great Gatsby on Feb 25, 2012 2:58 PM EST up reply actions
I was beating the drum for allen yes
Id still like him in the first. But his measurables dont make him a Reese pick. At least not in the first.
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 25, 2012 3:00 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
For example?
27 Reps., 32 inch vertical. I know I don’t expect a TE to be a leaper.
Ricky Williams retired....Cue up Bob Marley,
"Excuse me while I light my spliff"...
by Great Gatsby on Feb 25, 2012 3:06 PM EST up reply actions
Not awful really
But JR does look for physical freaks in the 1st. And those stats aren’t very “freakish”.
His 40 time is average.
And seeing some of these other dudes, I can see a couple non-TEs as bpa falling to us
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 25, 2012 3:09 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Agreed. I strongly doubt we are getting a TE in the first that has second round grades when BPA player will fall to us.
I HATED the JPP pick. Hated it. Threw a beer at my own TV. Shows what I know. JR will get it done.
Yup. Reese mentioned a thousand times today
plus history shows that he goes BPA without much consideration going to position unless he’s got prospects rated equally.
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 25, 2012 3:47 PM EST up reply actions
BPA works well for us anyway so why should we not continue
This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.
I just have a feeling Martellus Bennett
Is going to be a major steal for us if he pick him up. Better blocker than Ballard and more athletic than he is. The fact that Bennett is such a good blocker says a lot about him imo.
by Worl'Boss on Feb 25, 2012 3:07 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
he's a FA
Win another SB...CHECK!
Prove all the naysayers wrong...CHECK!
Stock the team with a young, core group of studs...CHECK!
Damn it's good to be a fan of the NYG
Let's Go Giants!!!!
I've said many times that I don't want any of the TEs that are being suggested
I’d rather have Martellus Bennett, who is more athletic, already used to being a run-blocking TE, has experience in the division, would come cheaply, and would have a chip on his shoulder to prove his doubters wrong.
Team Ghost: Manningham, Sintim, Beckum, Barden, JPP, Anvil, Ross
I've posed Martellus Bennett as a possible option before, too. I wouldn't be opposed.
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 25, 2012 4:37 PM EST up reply actions
According to you
so is Manningham and did plenty to help the Giants.
Team Ghost: Manningham, Sintim, Beckum, Barden, JPP, Anvil, Ross
Bennett has a far worse rep than Mario
Marios an enigma, a horrible mistake, followed by brilliance
Bennett seems to just not care, doesn’t do his assignments and runs terrible routes. At least that’s the stuff I’ve seen bandied about.
I suspect Bennett’s price will be too high, he has a great upside.
Eli is our King!
If he didn't care
Why would he be rated as one of the better blockers in the league. If I was a player who didn’t care I’d focus on catching the ball rather than being physical and blocking people.
And he played for Jerry Jones of all people
by Worl'Boss on Feb 26, 2012 9:39 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Manningham is a noble scholar compared to Bennett
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
freebradshaw has the worst track record
When it comes to evaluating players.
by Worl'Boss on Feb 26, 2012 9:41 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
wait a sec,
who are you?
Now, that’s a name I’ve not heard in a long time…
You PLAY to WIN the GAME.
Dear Tebow, please let the Giants beat the Patriots.
by Simms-McConkey on Feb 26, 2012 9:59 AM EST up reply actions
check the record again bop.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
by Rorschach44 on Feb 26, 2012 10:26 AM EST up reply actions
I like Ike!
I got a GIF for that!
Now is the time to prepare for the "one for the thumb!"
JR will trade UP in the draft...Take it to the bank!
by Fester McDougal on Feb 25, 2012 2:29 PM EST up reply actions
They're all working with Qb's they've never seen
You down wit JPP?
I got 99 problems but a Vick ain't one!
But they would have a lot more time to work with Eli than the guys that are throwing to them now
Plus Eli is 100X better than the guys they are working with now.
When you get your hands on the ball, you CATCH the ball. Ask any football coach, from HS on up to the pros.
None of these guys is a first round TE.
I agree...
They dropped some balls that fell right into their hands. Sloppy.
"Everybody talks about a dynasty. OUR dynasty starts today." -Michael Strahan (before Super Bowl 42)
Lol no but here is her hubby dancing like a girl
This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.
I don't think Combine catches are worth that much though
Guys like Allen and Fleener were catching the ball in season. Fleener was a huge help to Luck in Stanford. I think I’d stamp a late 1st round grade on Fleener and Allen, and that’s exactly when the Giants are picking.
Fleener had Luck throwing to him in college, and defenses couldn't stop it.
This is the NFL. I don’t think Fleener should be overrated. But we can argue it all day. JR will do the right thing.
Yeah he will
But you say he had Luck throwing to him in college….well he would have Eli throwing to him in NY. And with all the other weapons we have, Fleener wouldn’t be high on any defenses radar. Eli made Ballard look damn good, and Fleener is much better than Ballard imo. It’s time for Eli to get a good weapon at the TE position, not just a guy who is average/ slightly above average.
He's saying they look for good football players regardless of position.
Fill in players around them.
Yep
Ricky Williams retired....Cue up Bob Marley,
"Excuse me while I light my spliff"...
by Great Gatsby on Feb 25, 2012 2:59 PM EST up reply actions
Dodging Osi and MM questions
"Everybody talks about a dynasty. OUR dynasty starts today." -Michael Strahan (before Super Bowl 42)
I liked his answer to picking at the end of each round...
We got KP21, TT, and MM in 2008…1st, 2nd, and 3rd rounds…that worked out.
"Everybody talks about a dynasty. OUR dynasty starts today." -Michael Strahan (before Super Bowl 42)
Not sold at all on KP. TT and MM, yes, but KP has done nothing to show me
that he’s a top talent. So many tout this guy, but I don’t see it. Overrated, in my opinion, which isn’t worth crap, but I trust my eyes.
I think that KP was a huge reason why we started the season 6-2.
"Everybody talks about a dynasty. OUR dynasty starts today." -Michael Strahan (before Super Bowl 42)
Being a bit hard on KP
For more than half the year he was playing way too far off the ball. Couldn’t make any plays from where he was. Also without KP, we would have surrendered way more TD’s than we did. KP did a good job making up for breaks in coverage and keeping guys from breaking away and scoring TD’s.
He was playing off
was because of the Fewel’s early schemes
This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.
I'm going to say that your eyes on a safety playing deep coverage are hard to trust
These days the QB sets someone in motion or has a set that will diagnose where KP is going to be on the play. If he’s going to present a problem, the QB just won’t throw that way, if he’s vulnerable, they’ll often use a 2nd WR to attack his area to freeze him so that he can’t aggressively close.
On TV or even in the stadium he can look avg to nothing special, but still doing exactly what’s asked and as well as anyone that isn’t significantly faster. Most of the guys faster than KP are playing CB
Eli is our King!
Didm't mention
2009 draft, notice that?
Ricky Williams retired....Cue up Bob Marley,
"Excuse me while I light my spliff"...
by Great Gatsby on Feb 25, 2012 3:01 PM EST up reply actions
One
and…
Ricky Williams retired....Cue up Bob Marley,
"Excuse me while I light my spliff"...
by Great Gatsby on Feb 25, 2012 3:03 PM EST up reply actions
They drafted 5 players who have last names starting with B
"Everybody talks about a dynasty. OUR dynasty starts today." -Michael Strahan (before Super Bowl 42)
I'm not saying the rest of the class was amazing
Struck out on Sintim, injuries and a new system hurt.
Beatty is our starting LT and best OL until he got hurt
Barden is underused but that is 50% his fault.
Beckum was a strike out.
And after that it gets really ugly.
Bomar
"Everybody talks about a dynasty. OUR dynasty starts today." -Michael Strahan (before Super Bowl 42)
From what i remember
Ed does not like the Bomar jokes anymore
This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.
Bad year
for the GM, Beatty still unproven.
Ricky Williams retired....Cue up Bob Marley,
"Excuse me while I light my spliff"...
by Great Gatsby on Feb 25, 2012 3:08 PM EST up reply actions
I dont think hes unproven
Gave up 3 sacks in 10+ games. Thats near the top of the league
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 25, 2012 3:10 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Hasn't made it
thru a season yet, the year before
he played 6 games.
Ricky Williams retired....Cue up Bob Marley,
"Excuse me while I light my spliff"...
by Great Gatsby on Feb 25, 2012 3:14 PM EST up reply actions
I dunno if you can fault him for a detached retina.
Giants held him to limited reps cause they thought he wasn’t ready. They started him in his 3rd year cause they thought he was finally ready as opposed to limited snaps in 2010. He proved them right by having a great year before going on IR.
He’s about as proven as Victor Cruz is.
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 25, 2012 3:39 PM EST up reply actions
Huh?
I mean really? The guy didn’t even start until this season. Unfortunately
he got hurt, didn’t Cruz prove quite a bit this year!
Ricky Williams retired....Cue up Bob Marley,
"Excuse me while I light my spliff"...
by Great Gatsby on Feb 25, 2012 4:44 PM EST up reply actions
Cruz didn't start until this year either.
Beatty only gave up 3 sacks (2.5 officially) in 10 games. By comparison, Joe Thomas also gave up 3 sacks in a full season and he was the best LT in the entire league. Jason Peters also gave up 3 sacks in 16 games. So Beatty was on track to being a top 10 LT.
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 25, 2012 4:46 PM EST up reply actions
10 games
is not a proven commodity, others you mentioned have played a lot more than 10 games in this league, right?
Great year is an exaggeration, unless
you are talking about Cruz, c;mon.
Ricky Williams retired....Cue up Bob Marley,
"Excuse me while I light my spliff"...
by Great Gatsby on Feb 25, 2012 4:49 PM EST up reply actions
Cruz didn't start playing until Philly. He played in 14 games only.
Compare Beatty who gave up 3 sacks in 10 games to David Diehl who gave up 9 sacks in 8.
Nobody was talking about Beatty because the rest of our OL sucked balls, but he quietly had a very good year.
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 25, 2012 4:54 PM EST up reply actions
Whatever?
If you are comparing what Cruz
accomplished this season, it’s called
seizing an opportunity. Who mentioned Diehl? Yep, he quietly
played well. So he is a proven LT
in the NFL?
Ricky Williams retired....Cue up Bob Marley,
"Excuse me while I light my spliff"...
by Great Gatsby on Feb 25, 2012 5:04 PM EST up reply actions
What Cruz did was marvelous and unexpected
What Beatty did was expected. That’s the difference. Both played well, Cruz definitely did better, but both played well.
However, your argument was that Beatty was unproven because of a small sample size. I was just asserting that Cruz has just as small a sample size. That’s all
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 25, 2012 5:06 PM EST up reply actions
Still is
I’m out.
Ricky Williams retired....Cue up Bob Marley,
"Excuse me while I light my spliff"...
by Great Gatsby on Feb 25, 2012 5:14 PM EST up reply actions
shrugs. Agree to disagree.
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 25, 2012 5:16 PM EST up reply actions
Cruz did play in the Skin and Ram games
just did not do too much.. except drop a sure 1st down in the Skin game
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Feb 25, 2012 5:04 PM EST up reply actions
I still hate him for that
"Everybody talks about a dynasty. OUR dynasty starts today." -Michael Strahan (before Super Bowl 42)
lol
he will never live that down
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Feb 25, 2012 5:07 PM EST up reply actions
NO
"Everybody talks about a dynasty. OUR dynasty starts today." -Michael Strahan (before Super Bowl 42)
Wonder if we can make this thread anymore longer huh
This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.
4.49...damn
But can he block?
"Everybody talks about a dynasty. OUR dynasty starts today." -Michael Strahan (before Super Bowl 42)
Couldn't tell. But what a weapon for Eli if he can. Quite frankly, we shouldn't be a running team anyway.
Yeah, we need to run the ball enough, but our identity is completely changed. We should just accept it. We are one of the FEW passing teams that can play defense too. That’s what seperated us from those teams that passed but couldn’t play D. We have a damn good chance at another great season.
I agree but if they fix the line...
UNSTOPPABLE
"Everybody talks about a dynasty. OUR dynasty starts today." -Michael Strahan (before Super Bowl 42)
Well, who knows now? None are a first round. IF he can block, he makes sense in the third.
They didn’t really go over the blocking drills from what I saw.
With Glenn probably moving above our range...
Osmele is looking good…
Iowa State OT Kelechi Osemele was also really explosive off the ball. He ran in the 5.1 range at 6-6, 333-pounds and possesses elite length at nearly 36-inches.
well
I’m hoping for a run on QBs and WRs that will push some of these guys down to us, plus Kalil and DeCastro will be gone too… Guess we gotta hope people follow the big blueprint and load up on DLine.
That's exactly what I think will happen. And since we already have those, someone who is BPA and meets "need" is going to fall into our lap.
I can’t wait to get TT back. I think we will. And between him, Webster, and an improved Prince, we are going to be a force again with a rejuvenated DL.
When does the next season start again?
i am wiating
This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.
this
so many people have about 85 player getting drafted in the first round.
Win another SB...CHECK!
Prove all the naysayers wrong...CHECK!
Stock the team with a young, core group of studs...CHECK!
Damn it's good to be a fan of the NYG
Let's Go Giants!!!!
32 reps with 36-inch arms is incredible
I’m sure JR took notice and I wouldn’t be opposed to him being pick #32
None of these guys can throw and catch the ball at the same time...
"Everybody talks about a dynasty. OUR dynasty starts today." -Michael Strahan (before Super Bowl 42)
32" vertical jumps for a TE don't impress me
"Everybody talks about a dynasty. OUR dynasty starts today." -Michael Strahan (before Super Bowl 42)
Yeah
but 35 reps does, I don’t get too caught in the combine.
Ricky Williams retired....Cue up Bob Marley,
"Excuse me while I light my spliff"...
by Great Gatsby on Feb 25, 2012 2:19 PM EST up reply actions
I don't care if he only does one...as long as he finishes
"Everybody talks about a dynasty. OUR dynasty starts today." -Michael Strahan (before Super Bowl 42)
Well, after this was wrapped up, I have to agree with Mayock. None of these guys is a first round TE.
But at 32, that’s what we are picking anyway. I could see Fleener, Charles, or Allen falling enough to us in the second.
Combine Swagrid Time!!!
Time to strut your stuff!
I got a GIF for that!
Now is the time to prepare for the "one for the thumb!"
JR will trade UP in the draft...Take it to the bank!
by Fester McDougal on Feb 25, 2012 2:26 PM EST reply actions
Is that Jared Allen?
"Everybody talks about a dynasty. OUR dynasty starts today." -Michael Strahan (before Super Bowl 42)
that's better
"Everybody talks about a dynasty. OUR dynasty starts today." -Michael Strahan (before Super Bowl 42)
This coverage is getting pretty intense...
do I need to know footwork on the 3-cone drill?
"Everybody talks about a dynasty. OUR dynasty starts today." -Michael Strahan (before Super Bowl 42)
Yes, JR needs your helpful suggestions on who he should pick.
I got a GIF for that!
Now is the time to prepare for the "one for the thumb!"
JR will trade UP in the draft...Take it to the bank!
by Fester McDougal on Feb 25, 2012 2:27 PM EST up reply actions
The first thing I notice is there are 4 cones...
technically
"Everybody talks about a dynasty. OUR dynasty starts today." -Michael Strahan (before Super Bowl 42)
See, I bet JR did not notice that
I got a GIF for that!
Now is the time to prepare for the "one for the thumb!"
JR will trade UP in the draft...Take it to the bank!
by Fester McDougal on Feb 25, 2012 2:29 PM EST up reply actions
I want my check
"Everybody talks about a dynasty. OUR dynasty starts today." -Michael Strahan (before Super Bowl 42)
Next time your on the ice...
I got a GIF for that!
Now is the time to prepare for the "one for the thumb!"
JR will trade UP in the draft...Take it to the bank!
by Fester McDougal on Feb 25, 2012 2:31 PM EST up reply actions
But I don't want to!!
"Everybody talks about a dynasty. OUR dynasty starts today." -Michael Strahan (before Super Bowl 42)
i dunno about your check but here is discount double check/choke for you.
This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.
This field looks so familiar...
like something awesome happened on it recently
"Everybody talks about a dynasty. OUR dynasty starts today." -Michael Strahan (before Super Bowl 42)
HA!
I knew it was something!
"Everybody talks about a dynasty. OUR dynasty starts today." -Michael Strahan (before Super Bowl 42)
Ah yes the Colts play there
and is this where they do Indy 500
This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.
one would hope he would be at the combine....
World Series attitude, champagne bottle life, nothing every changes so tonight is like tomorrow night.
LOL
not my fault I used the English language incorrectly.
World Series attitude, champagne bottle life, nothing every changes so tonight is like tomorrow night.
Methinks its cause your use of combine changed it to the farm machine
Dont ask this city boy wtf a combine does, but the old textbooks in my elementary school still focused on our agrarian nation
Eli is our King!
i am with you but let us enjoy this pic for now
This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.
He just said Manningham's name!!!!!!
"Everybody talks about a dynasty. OUR dynasty starts today." -Michael Strahan (before Super Bowl 42)
sounds like he's gone
"Everybody talks about a dynasty. OUR dynasty starts today." -Michael Strahan (before Super Bowl 42)
Rich Eisen is funny...
He asks him if he’s an ELITE general manager.
"Everybody talks about a dynasty. OUR dynasty starts today." -Michael Strahan (before Super Bowl 42)
yup...
I’m not gonna complain about anything anymore. I promise you that.
"Everybody talks about a dynasty. OUR dynasty starts today." -Michael Strahan (before Super Bowl 42)
Two SB wins in five seasons. I'll take it. BUT, we have a chance at another very good year, and I truly believe that beating the eggs is the key to winning this division. Romo will choke as he always does, and we own them. Unfortunately, the eggs
have owned us the last four years. One for eight. Not good. We will need to take the first game from them as we did last year. I don’t like that they starting playing good ball at the end of the year. We better be hungry and ready. Fear? No. Respect? Yes. We better play hard.
Right on!
I will admit that I could enjoy watching the Eagles beating us all the time if we keep bringing home championships.
"Everybody talks about a dynasty. OUR dynasty starts today." -Michael Strahan (before Super Bowl 42)
I know I would take a 14-2 record every year
with 2 losses to the Eagles. With us winning the Super Bowl and them missing the playoffs :).
by mypisceannature on Feb 25, 2012 9:08 PM EST up reply actions
I think that (us winning rings and losing to philly)
Would cause suicide rates to rise
Eli is our King!
who cares if the eagles were playing good ball at the end of 2011
against the crappiest teams in the NFL. 2012 is a new year
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Feb 25, 2012 3:37 PM EST up reply actions
It's always a new year. It was a new year in 08, 09, 10, and 11. My point, if you read carefully, is that we will need to beat them. We cannot afford to lose 2 to them again.
And SO, with the NEW YEAR upcoming, our team will need to break a bad habit. Losing to them. Not that hard a concept to understand.
nope, I don't understand
my brain is too small to get concepts that big. You seemed to miss my point responding to you statement " I don’t like that they starting playing good ball at the end of the year" . They finished nice (against bad teams) after being terrible to start the year. What does that have to do with worrying about them next year?
Also who cares if they win two in a row again in 2012. There are 14 other games to worry, I’m not focused on those two. If they Giants went 12-4 but two of the L’s were against the eagles, would you really care that much?
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Feb 25, 2012 4:09 PM EST up reply actions
That's funny. "Against bad teams". Check some of our losses. For that matter, check some of our wins.
We got hot and played well right when we needed to. We could all feel it coming with that loss to GB in the reg. My point is simple. I know you don’t get it. That’s okay. They are our chief competition in the NFC East. There. That’s pretty easy to understand.
IMO...We need to sweep our division opponents...
That should always be the goal…Our guys can play crappy games like anyone…But if we can beat our division rivals, life and my beer would be much better and colder…
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Thank you. That was my point. Want to win? Beat the better teams in your division.
Sometimes, it’s about match-ups. For whatever reason, we match up great against the girls, not so well against the eggs. One for two last year. Hopefully we better that this year.
Agree that division sweep should definitely be one of the goals
This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.
Just because I don't agree with your point
does not mean I don’t understand it so please don’t insult my intelligence.
Of course the goal is to win every game, especially against division rivals. But it is not make or break if you lose half of your NFC East games. Eagles, Cowboys and Redskins are all the Giants chief competition in the East, if you try to overlook any of them, you will lose the game (both Skin games this year). And the the other degree, you can’t but all your focus into trying to beat one team during the regular season.
And yeah, Giants beat some crappy teams and lost to some as well. But the same people who say “Giants got lucky, only beat bad teams, lose to all the good teams” are the same ones who say “Eagles were really dangerous at the end of the year, hate to play them”… can’t have it both ways.
I would love the Giants to win every game every week, especially against the East teams. But a season’s success does not rely on sweeping your division.
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Feb 25, 2012 4:56 PM EST up reply actions
I'll agree to this. I don't give a shit who we beat as long as we beat enough to get into the playoffs.
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 25, 2012 4:57 PM EST up reply actions
I've been saying this since I was about your age (I'm just guessing)
Seems really obvious to me, here’s an example
9>10, cause 9 got us in last year and 10 the year before didn’t
Eli is our King!
That's exactly it. Idea is to secure a post season berth.
This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.
Happy about what?
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Feb 25, 2012 5:14 PM EST up reply actions
I really don't understand what is happening right now.
"Everybody talks about a dynasty. OUR dynasty starts today." -Michael Strahan (before Super Bowl 42)
you and me both
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Feb 25, 2012 5:17 PM EST up reply actions
Hahaha!!!..Whatever it is it's funny!!...
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
I aim to please.
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I agree. You are so right. Thank you for commenting on my post. Your insight was....so well thought out...and
I’m overwhelmed, speechless, and just….desirous of you continuing to conjure up insights for me such as, “who cares if the eagles were playing good football at the end of 2011 against the crappiest teams in the NFL”. I just, well, it’s astounding, frankly. I’m bereft of words at the depth of thought here. It was so worthwhile to post that response. Thanks for taking the time.
Who pissed in your corn flakes?
"Everybody talks about a dynasty. OUR dynasty starts today." -Michael Strahan (before Super Bowl 42)
i think he might be one of the mean guys
You PLAY to WIN the GAME.
Dear Tebow, please let the Giants beat the Patriots.
by Simms-McConkey on Feb 25, 2012 5:25 PM EST up reply actions
That's me! The big meanie. By the way, your vid is now viral.
You’re welcome.
JK
LOL!!!!!
No, just having a little fun at TAWD’s expense. Unfortunately, TONE can’t come through on a keyboard. But, it can be inferred.
Ooooh that would taste nasty....
I never make Corn flakes after a good game of beer drinking…I totally refrain from midnight snacks…for one of those I think I’m in the bathroom moments…a bowl is a bowl..hahaha
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
ok
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Feb 25, 2012 5:37 PM EST up reply actions
I can't keep up
I got a GIF for that!
Now is the time to prepare for the "one for the thumb!"
JR will trade UP in the draft...Take it to the bank!
by Fester McDougal on Feb 25, 2012 5:43 PM EST up reply actions
I'll bet you have never even watched a Giants football game.
"Everybody talks about a dynasty. OUR dynasty starts today." -Michael Strahan (before Super Bowl 42)
I'm more of a Canadian Football guy
that a real sport.
Go Saskatchewan Roughriders!!!!!
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Feb 25, 2012 5:06 PM EST up reply actions
Ha...I had you pegged as an Argonauts guy
"Everybody talks about a dynasty. OUR dynasty starts today." -Michael Strahan (before Super Bowl 42)
BC Lions are my second team
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Feb 25, 2012 5:08 PM EST up reply actions
So...fear the capitalized BC with the lion head?
"Everybody talks about a dynasty. OUR dynasty starts today." -Michael Strahan (before Super Bowl 42)
Boom
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Feb 25, 2012 5:12 PM EST up reply actions
it cut off
but the point has been made
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Feb 25, 2012 5:12 PM EST up reply actions
Yes...
the point was made…in 2006
"Everybody talks about a dynasty. OUR dynasty starts today." -Michael Strahan (before Super Bowl 42)
this
lol
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Feb 25, 2012 5:18 PM EST up reply actions
The Grey Cup
what an absolutely turrible name for a trophy
I got a GIF for that!
Now is the time to prepare for the "one for the thumb!"
JR will trade UP in the draft...Take it to the bank!
by Fester McDougal on Feb 25, 2012 5:38 PM EST up reply actions
Yepp, the Eagles > the Boys for sure
The eagles have the potential to be a very dangerous, complete team. Until Dallas fixes their defense, they will never be a contender. After Ware and Lee, who do they really have on D? Ratliff is washed up, their secondary is hot garbage. The Eagles on the other hand, if Vick is healthy, can beat any team in the league.
Go Giants!
Arguing on the internet is like running in the Special Olympics. Even if you win, you're still retarded.
Eagles can be a dangerous team but we should at least split with them in 2012
and as for the Cowboys, besides what you mentioned about their defense they also lack an overall team intensity that Giants have an abundance of.
This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.
I am bookmarking that comment
I’m not gonna complain about anything anymore. I promise you that.
I got a GIF for that!
Now is the time to prepare for the "one for the thumb!"
JR will trade UP in the draft...Take it to the bank!
by Fester McDougal on Feb 25, 2012 4:19 PM EST up reply actions
I'll deny everything
"Everybody talks about a dynasty. OUR dynasty starts today." -Michael Strahan (before Super Bowl 42)
Aka what theyve been doing
And thats why when it comes to the draft, the n word is banned.
The only need we have to look for in the draft is talent.
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 25, 2012 2:54 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
No doubt. My fear is the cap will hinder necessary FA acquisitions on the Oline or at TE. It's going to be a long year
if we can’t upgrade the OL. Because unless one of the OL’s falls, I think we’re gonna end up with a BPA at DT.
Have they not set the cap amount?
Reese made it seem like they have no idea how much room they will have. If that’s the case then when do they set the cap and how do they determine it?
"Everybody talks about a dynasty. OUR dynasty starts today." -Michael Strahan (before Super Bowl 42)
Supposedly
it’s going to be less than last year slightly, but not set yet.
Ricky Williams retired....Cue up Bob Marley,
"Excuse me while I light my spliff"...
by Great Gatsby on Feb 25, 2012 3:22 PM EST up reply actions
See I read the cap will be higher
who freaking knows… In JR we trust either way.
by SFloridaMetsFan on Feb 27, 2012 10:48 AM EST up reply actions
7 mill over
at this point.
Ricky Williams retired....Cue up Bob Marley,
"Excuse me while I light my spliff"...
by Great Gatsby on Feb 25, 2012 3:22 PM EST up reply actions
Big worry about the OL right now should be Brewer
If Brewer can come in and do a solid job at RT, we’ll be alright. Guard isn’t something we should worry about. Snee is a fixture, even after a bad year, and I think Petrus can step up and be our LG
We were in worse condition last year
We will have to cut some players, but well be alright
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 25, 2012 3:02 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Only banned here
LOL!
Ricky Williams retired....Cue up Bob Marley,
"Excuse me while I light my spliff"...
by Great Gatsby on Feb 25, 2012 3:19 PM EST up reply actions
Underrated OT
Tom Compton is doing well. He should be available in 2nd or 3rd round unless he keeps doing well and his stock rises.
My Wife is a Patriot's fan...
"Giants rely on fumbles and stripping the ball. If the pats secure the ball, then the pats win, but if they fumble or let the ball get striped than the giants win. every game the giants play they always benefit from the other teams bonehead mistakes (fumbled or striped) not from thier skills. The giants are a dirty team, I can’t think of any othe team as dirty as the giants. They try to strip the ball as hard as they can because they know they can’t win a fair game." by EaglesNeedD on Jan 23, 2012 2:01 AM EST
Meaning
doing well and rises out of the end of the 2nd or 3rd round…
My Wife is a Patriot's fan...
"Giants rely on fumbles and stripping the ball. If the pats secure the ball, then the pats win, but if they fumble or let the ball get striped than the giants win. every game the giants play they always benefit from the other teams bonehead mistakes (fumbled or striped) not from thier skills. The giants are a dirty team, I can’t think of any othe team as dirty as the giants. They try to strip the ball as hard as they can because they know they can’t win a fair game." by EaglesNeedD on Jan 23, 2012 2:01 AM EST
by Giantssincesix on Feb 25, 2012 2:56 PM EST up reply actions
Reese knows they are lucky
"If he wasn’t a local free agent, obviously we wouldn’t have brought him in," Reese said. "You get lucky like that sometimes. That’s the beauty of it. … That’s the beauty of scouting. It’s not a perfect science.
"But we try to get more right than we get wrong."
All the fans of other teams were correct about us.
"Everybody talks about a dynasty. OUR dynasty starts today." -Michael Strahan (before Super Bowl 42)
lol
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Feb 25, 2012 3:39 PM EST up reply actions
Don't forget the luck machine in Eli's helmet....
I got a GIF for that!
Now is the time to prepare for the "one for the thumb!"
JR will trade UP in the draft...Take it to the bank!
by Fester McDougal on Feb 25, 2012 4:14 PM EST up reply actions
"I have the will to win!!!"...Just needed a special helmet....
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Aside from QB it doesn't matter what position BPA plays
even if that position if not a need.
If it’s DT, you can free over $3 mm in cap room by cutting Canty.
If it’s DE, you trade Osi and save over $3mm
if it’s CB you save by not re-signing TT
and the rest are all positions of need anyways.
This assumes the player can start...
I got a GIF for that!
Now is the time to prepare for the "one for the thumb!"
JR will trade UP in the draft...Take it to the bank!
by Fester McDougal on Feb 25, 2012 4:14 PM EST up reply actions
Rarely on a Clawfin team
I got a GIF for that!
Now is the time to prepare for the "one for the thumb!"
JR will trade UP in the draft...Take it to the bank!
by Fester McDougal on Feb 25, 2012 4:38 PM EST up reply actions
Hmm... I wonder what JR will do then
if, say bpa at 32 is Poe. Even after cutting Jacobs, there’s no room to fix the OL and get a TE, not to mention resigning TT and some of the role players. Will be interesting to see what he does.
Sorry to hear it.
I got a GIF for that!
Now is the time to prepare for the "one for the thumb!"
JR will trade UP in the draft...Take it to the bank!
by Fester McDougal on Feb 25, 2012 4:20 PM EST up reply actions
I have a drinking problem.
today someone emailed me a video of me trying to hula hoop at 1 am
You PLAY to WIN the GAME.
Dear Tebow, please let the Giants beat the Patriots.
by Simms-McConkey on Feb 25, 2012 4:21 PM EST up reply actions
Do you dribble when you drink?
that is my problem…
I got a GIF for that!
Now is the time to prepare for the "one for the thumb!"
JR will trade UP in the draft...Take it to the bank!
by Fester McDougal on Feb 25, 2012 4:21 PM EST up reply actions
lol
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Feb 25, 2012 4:21 PM EST up reply actions
Put it up on Youtube and I will GIF it!
I got a GIF for that!
Now is the time to prepare for the "one for the thumb!"
JR will trade UP in the draft...Take it to the bank!
by Fester McDougal on Feb 25, 2012 4:22 PM EST up reply actions
lol
this
New York Giants 2011 Super Bowl Champions = FACT
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Feb 25, 2012 4:23 PM EST up reply actions
I don't know how to do that techie stuff
want me to email it to you?
You PLAY to WIN the GAME.
Dear Tebow, please let the Giants beat the Patriots.
by Simms-McConkey on Feb 25, 2012 4:26 PM EST up reply actions
you
can send it to fester.mcdougal@gmail.com May take me a while as I am heading out for a night on the town…
I got a GIF for that!
Now is the time to prepare for the "one for the thumb!"
JR will trade UP in the draft...Take it to the bank!
by Fester McDougal on Feb 25, 2012 4:37 PM EST up reply actions
I'm sending it right now
You PLAY to WIN the GAME.
Dear Tebow, please let the Giants beat the Patriots.
by Simms-McConkey on Feb 25, 2012 4:37 PM EST up reply actions
aaand sent.
Wait, am I about to be a Youtube superstar?
You PLAY to WIN the GAME.
Dear Tebow, please let the Giants beat the Patriots.
by Simms-McConkey on Feb 25, 2012 4:40 PM EST up reply actions
I just threw up a little...
I got a GIF for that!
Now is the time to prepare for the "one for the thumb!"
JR will trade UP in the draft...Take it to the bank!
by Fester McDougal on Feb 25, 2012 4:41 PM EST up reply actions
just look at the chicks
you will feel better
You PLAY to WIN the GAME.
Dear Tebow, please let the Giants beat the Patriots.
by Simms-McConkey on Feb 25, 2012 4:42 PM EST up reply actions
And a star is born
I got a GIF for that!
Now is the time to prepare for the "one for the thumb!"
JR will trade UP in the draft...Take it to the bank!
by Fester McDougal on Feb 25, 2012 4:56 PM EST up reply actions 5 recs
lol
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Feb 25, 2012 5:02 PM EST up reply actions
Fester, tell him about the girls!
Tell him!
You PLAY to WIN the GAME.
Dear Tebow, please let the Giants beat the Patriots.
by Simms-McConkey on Feb 25, 2012 5:20 PM EST up reply actions
Girls?
I got a GIF for that!
Now is the time to prepare for the "one for the thumb!"
JR will trade UP in the draft...Take it to the bank!
by Fester McDougal on Feb 25, 2012 5:20 PM EST up reply actions
bastard
You PLAY to WIN the GAME.
Dear Tebow, please let the Giants beat the Patriots.
by Simms-McConkey on Feb 25, 2012 5:21 PM EST up reply actions
OK
I do hear voices in the background egging SM on…
I got a GIF for that!
Now is the time to prepare for the "one for the thumb!"
JR will trade UP in the draft...Take it to the bank!
by Fester McDougal on Feb 25, 2012 5:26 PM EST up reply actions
Is that an Eagles or Jets shirt?
SINNER!
"Everybody talks about a dynasty. OUR dynasty starts today." -Michael Strahan (before Super Bowl 42)
obviously not!
It’s “triple dog dare you” from Christmas Story
You PLAY to WIN the GAME.
Dear Tebow, please let the Giants beat the Patriots.
by Simms-McConkey on Feb 25, 2012 5:20 PM EST up reply actions
Is that a bar in Port Orchard, WA?
"Everybody talks about a dynasty. OUR dynasty starts today." -Michael Strahan (before Super Bowl 42)
it's actually a bar in my basement
You PLAY to WIN the GAME.
Dear Tebow, please let the Giants beat the Patriots.
by Simms-McConkey on Feb 25, 2012 5:31 PM EST up reply actions
I do hoop that the hula effort
paid off in the end….
I got a GIF for that!
Now is the time to prepare for the "one for the thumb!"
JR will trade UP in the draft...Take it to the bank!
by Fester McDougal on Feb 25, 2012 5:33 PM EST up reply actions
eh, I'm married and faithful
So God torments me by surrounding me with ridiculously hot chicks.
You PLAY to WIN the GAME.
Dear Tebow, please let the Giants beat the Patriots.
by Simms-McConkey on Feb 25, 2012 5:34 PM EST up reply actions
I meant with your lovely wife of course...
I got a GIF for that!
Now is the time to prepare for the "one for the thumb!"
JR will trade UP in the draft...Take it to the bank!
by Fester McDougal on Feb 25, 2012 5:35 PM EST up reply actions
hmmm...have I ever blacked out there before?
"Everybody talks about a dynasty. OUR dynasty starts today." -Michael Strahan (before Super Bowl 42)
in all likelihood, yes
You PLAY to WIN the GAME.
Dear Tebow, please let the Giants beat the Patriots.
by Simms-McConkey on Feb 25, 2012 5:49 PM EST up reply actions
I knew it!
"Everybody talks about a dynasty. OUR dynasty starts today." -Michael Strahan (before Super Bowl 42)
Dude I'm part black, not part jewish
So, think less Seth Rogen. More…
You PLAY to WIN the GAME.
Dear Tebow, please let the Giants beat the Patriots.
by Simms-McConkey on Feb 25, 2012 6:39 PM EST up reply actions
that's fantastic
"The saddest thing in life is wasted talent"
by Larry Soprano on Feb 25, 2012 9:35 PM EST up reply actions
Hahaha!!!!!
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
LOL
I got a GIF for that!
Now is the time to prepare for the "one for the thumb!"
JR will trade UP in the draft...Take it to the bank!
by Fester McDougal on Feb 25, 2012 4:26 PM EST reply actions
Is that Romo with a hula-hoop???
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Now that is in the huddle during a game. SMH.
This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.
One name to be on the look out for tomorrow is Reuben Randle, WR LSU
6"4 220lbs.
Giants are meeting with him. Possible 1st round target.
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 25, 2012 4:41 PM EST reply actions
Haven't heard of him. Really? It's so funny, all of these guys having first round grades, and only 32 of them able to be taken in the first.
We’re going to get someone who falls that is really good. I just feel it.
He's a freak. Supposed to run in the 4.45 range at his size.
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 25, 2012 4:47 PM EST up reply actions
after the last two years
I wouldn’t be surprised to find out that the Giants were meeting with EVERY prospect. After all, they had JPP rated at #6 overall, and Prince rated so high they didn’t even bother interviewing him.
Take no chances, never know who other GM’s will pass on.
I guess saying “The Giants are lucky” is easier than saying “our team is dumb”…
by Raptor22 on Feb 25, 2012 4:59 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Easier for our rivals to swallow "Giants are lucky" rather than "Giants are smart as hell and opportunistic"
Either way, they got to swallow something that we shove down their throats.
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 25, 2012 5:08 PM EST up reply actions
That's what Osi said...
to LeSean McCoy!
"Everybody talks about a dynasty. OUR dynasty starts today." -Michael Strahan (before Super Bowl 42)
Lady Gaga likes to gag?
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 25, 2012 5:12 PM EST up reply actions
HA!
I heard he’s practicing his gag suppression technique in the offseason. Vick will be leading the private " player only" workout sessions. wink-wink
"Everybody talks about a dynasty. OUR dynasty starts today." -Michael Strahan (before Super Bowl 42)
Could have made a terrible dog joke. But I'll refrain
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 25, 2012 5:16 PM EST up reply actions
I'll just assume it was hilarious
"Everybody talks about a dynasty. OUR dynasty starts today." -Michael Strahan (before Super Bowl 42)
You'd be right to assume so.
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 25, 2012 5:19 PM EST up reply actions
YES!!!
I love being right!!
"Everybody talks about a dynasty. OUR dynasty starts today." -Michael Strahan (before Super Bowl 42)
Reuben Randle, Alshon Jeffery, Stephen Gilmore, and Whitney Mercilus are the options Reese will be deciding upon. That’s my best guess based upon the whole BPA theory Reese works upon.
Too bad we fans think guys like Cordy Glenn, Dwayne Allen, and Coby Fleener are need players who will most likely be passed up.
by IrishPride187 on Feb 26, 2012 12:11 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
not me, I think Cordy Glenn is also the BPA
By the way…for the record, which site are you looking at that has those players ranked higher than Cordy Glenn? I’d like to check that out.
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Let's Go Giants!!!!
I just figured Cordy Glenn will be gone by the time the Giants pick. Outside of that I’m reading Giants101, and they point out Reese likes going BPA at skill positions, cause you can never have enough of those guys. The skill positions (LT, WR, DE, CB) are what helps you win. I’m not blind enough to see that you also need to win in the trenches, but at #32, it probably better to go BPA in skill positions instead of reaching for a lower ranked OL guy.
I’ve been a fan if drafting Cordy Glenn if the Giants get the chance.
by IrishPride187 on Feb 26, 2012 9:18 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
im really shocked with allen
this guy seriously underwhelmed. the worst 10-yard split? A very average 32 inch vertical leap?
I thought his explosiveness and jump ball ability was supposedly his greatest strengths…. hes lucky fleener wasnt there to completely overmatch his numbers
None of these guys is a first round pick. We will be able to get one in the second/third, maybe later.
But really, the only thing that matters is keeping Eli upright to find his guy. That’s the bottom line. He carried our team. Protect him, and we have a good season. JR is going to find a way to protect Eli, whether it’s draft of FA. Everything else flows from there.
He's got great tape, so this was very weird indeed.
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 25, 2012 4:55 PM EST up reply actions
Charles is only 3 lbs lighter, and Fleener is only 8 lbs lighter.
Both are more vertical threats than Allen, but Allen is the more polished blocker.
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 25, 2012 4:58 PM EST up reply actions
None of them is worth a first round pick. Unless Fleener can become a Plax type throw it up and just go get it guy.
If that’s the case, then I’m all in and we can take an OL that falls to the second or look in FA. I’m all for giving Eli, the entire key to our team, every weapon he can use. But keeping him upright and the pocket clean is the key.
Based on what JR looks for, if there ever was going to be a 1st round TE taken by us now, it'd be Fleener
though the game tape for both is excellent. I still like Allen and I think he’s still the bomb. However, I can’t deny that this hurt his stock.
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 25, 2012 5:09 PM EST up reply actions
I agree
He looked fast and explosive when I watched his highlights. Crazy. And the oaklahoma TE, who I didnt even notice when I watched them, ran a 4.4! Weird day for TEs!
by Giant Ken on Feb 25, 2012 5:12 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Allen DID look probably the best out of all the TEs during the receiving drills themselves thought
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by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 25, 2012 5:14 PM EST up reply actions
I didnt see that, but I saw a report that he was bad
Im so confused now! I just want Eli to get some help!
by Giant Ken on Feb 25, 2012 5:19 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
his measurables were bad. His drill was not. He's a natural hands catcher.
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 25, 2012 5:21 PM EST up reply actions
His gauntlet was not so great. Hanna's was better. Even Mayock had no idea how Hanna measured so well, and caught the ball smoothly.
Not that I’m advocating for him, it was just commented on.
Yeah should have corrected myself. The receiving drills minus the gauntlet
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 25, 2012 5:26 PM EST up reply actions
I may be thinking WR #1
There are a bunch that r pretty good, then if we lose MM we may still upgrade that position.
by Giant Ken on Feb 25, 2012 5:35 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Agreed, though Jerry Reese reaally like Jerrel Jernigan
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 25, 2012 5:36 PM EST up reply actions
Guys are drafted in the first for a reason
If we get another stud, look out!
by Giant Ken on Feb 25, 2012 5:43 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Read my Sig
Dude!
I got a GIF for that!
Now is the time to prepare for the "one for the thumb!"
JR will trade UP in the draft...Take it to the bank!
by Fester McDougal on Feb 25, 2012 10:17 PM EST up reply actions
worst thing we could ever do is "chase" the ring
let’s not pull a Falcons and give up 5 picks for a WR. Or anything like that. Let’s stay the course, keep pumping out solid years and get that 5th.
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Prove all the naysayers wrong...CHECK!
Stock the team with a young, core group of studs...CHECK!
Damn it's good to be a fan of the NYG
Let's Go Giants!!!!
Doubt that our FO will do something like that.
They will draft wisely
This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.
agreed
Win another SB...CHECK!
Prove all the naysayers wrong...CHECK!
Stock the team with a young, core group of studs...CHECK!
Damn it's good to be a fan of the NYG
Let's Go Giants!!!!
This year i AM hungry for what i post here as Back2Back SB. One is out of the way. We are half way done. We gotta GitRDone
This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.
Jerry Jones looks like he dies 4 or 5 years ago
"Everybody talks about a dynasty. OUR dynasty starts today." -Michael Strahan (before Super Bowl 42)
by nywins46 on Feb 25, 2012 5:09 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
he dies
every time we hoist up the Lombardi.
by Nick Dapito on Feb 25, 2012 8:18 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Why does vertical leap matter for an offensive lineman?
"Everybody talks about a dynasty. OUR dynasty starts today." -Michael Strahan (before Super Bowl 42)
lower body explosion.
For an OL, that usually means the ability to pancake block/get that initial advantage when you start to run block someone
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 25, 2012 5:20 PM EST up reply actions
Another way to measure explosiveness...
Then again, you never know when Eli will throw a high ball and an OL is the only eligible receiver in the vicinity…
That’d be nuts.
You mean to tell me there isn't ONE photoshopped image of Optimus Prime with a New York Giants logo?? RIDICULOUS!!
Chad Clifton released?
He was injured last season, right?
"Everybody talks about a dynasty. OUR dynasty starts today." -Michael Strahan (before Super Bowl 42)
Roddy White's tweet...
I don’t really know why the NFL make the Oline run a 40 I would make them run a 20
That jives with Atlanta’s philosophy…quit during the final stretch.
"Everybody talks about a dynasty. OUR dynasty starts today." -Michael Strahan (before Super Bowl 42)
So, did anyone score well in the surfing an alligator event?
I got a GIF for that!
Now is the time to prepare for the "one for the thumb!"
JR will trade UP in the draft...Take it to the bank!
by Fester McDougal on Feb 25, 2012 5:36 PM EST reply actions
Thank you
That would be all I need to know, I say all presidential candidates need to giddy up on the gator
Eli is our King!
Ashas Beenbittoff did great...His body parts might fall to us in the 2nd round..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Zach Brown up to 244 lbs
Prototypical size for a 4-3 OLB and if he runs around a 4.4, forget it, he’s a 1st rounder.
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 25, 2012 6:17 PM EST reply actions
Yes, but probably faster and less of a douche.
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 25, 2012 6:25 PM EST up reply actions
Do we really want to pass up another douche canoe?
We already missed Dez Bryant…
"Everybody talks about a dynasty. OUR dynasty starts today." -Michael Strahan (before Super Bowl 42)
He'd have been fine here
But I prefer our guys
Eli is our King!
Agree with you 100%
Besides that Dez is very immature.
This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.
You have to carry the vet's pads in Giants camp...
"Everybody talks about a dynasty. OUR dynasty starts today." -Michael Strahan (before Super Bowl 42)
thats not nice
"I like prime rib, and I'd love to win a Super Bowl" -Andy Reid
"11 guys playing as 1 are HARD to beat" -Justin Tuck
its true tho
Burfict can’t tie his own shoes
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
Can he tie your shoes?
"Everybody talks about a dynasty. OUR dynasty starts today." -Michael Strahan (before Super Bowl 42)
i know
ive heard that and so much more about him that just turns me off of the idea of him
"I like prime rib, and I'd love to win a Super Bowl" -Andy Reid
"11 guys playing as 1 are HARD to beat" -Justin Tuck
See...I'm the opposite...
Athletic and dumb are a big turn on to me
"Everybody talks about a dynasty. OUR dynasty starts today." -Michael Strahan (before Super Bowl 42)
please rephrase
You PLAY to WIN the GAME.
Dear Tebow, please let the Giants beat the Patriots.
by Simms-McConkey on Feb 25, 2012 6:40 PM EST up reply actions
i dont know about him but this is on mind right now
This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.
damn you
now I’ll be staring at this all day.
Win another SB...CHECK!
Prove all the naysayers wrong...CHECK!
Stock the team with a young, core group of studs...CHECK!
Damn it's good to be a fan of the NYG
Let's Go Giants!!!!
You and i will be doing this now lol
This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.
by BB1156 on Feb 25, 2012 11:00 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Terrible tackling form though
I hate the “let me see if I can run into this guy fast enough with my shoulder to make him go down” kind of play.
yes, but you know that some team will fall in love with those measurables regardless
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 25, 2012 6:53 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah I know
But once you are used to a certain way of tackling, and nobody has corrected you during the 8+ years of football you’ve been playing, it’s hard to teach a guy to wrap up. And in the NFL, RB’s LOVE guys who don’t wrap up.
I've got their 1st rounder down to
Zach Brown or Brandon Weeden
Everybody's a 1st rounder
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lol
1st round talent =/= 1st rounder. This draft class is ten times what last year’s draft class was.
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 25, 2012 7:54 PM EST up reply actions
Except maybe D-Line
Last year’s DL was filthy (also CB was pretty damn good)
that sounds good
"I like prime rib, and I'd love to win a Super Bowl" -Andy Reid
"11 guys playing as 1 are HARD to beat" -Justin Tuck
Is it just me or does mike pope look like
Jerry Sandusky?
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Let's Go Giants!!!!
ok...so far, I know what I want in two of the 1st 3 picks
Cordy Glenn and Michael Egnew
I think he’ll (Egnew) be a beast. has the highest verticle so far, looks fluid in his routes, very good 40 time. and he’s 6’6" with room to add weight:
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Damn it's good to be a fan of the NYG
Let's Go Giants!!!!
I never liked Egnew's tape
But, it sounds like he’s done enough to warrant another look. I just wish he did even SOME blocking in college.
Green reenforced position in my eyes, and Hanna could be a good pick as well goes gametape hunting
1st or 2nd year, I don't see him doing much of any blocking
unless he goes in motion and crack-back blocks. But I could see a big TE like Hopkins on one side and Egnew on the other. And in a few years, after he puts on more wait…we’ll see. The thing about making the SB is I see it as you lose your 1st round pick but you gain an “8th round” pick. We pick so late, it’s like picking at the top of the 2nd.
Win another SB...CHECK!
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Stock the team with a young, core group of studs...CHECK!
Damn it's good to be a fan of the NYG
Let's Go Giants!!!!
We need to draft players for the Giants, not a triathalon
Green is skinnier than Nicks, he’s not blocking anybody. He might as well have run with the WRs. Egnew at least has the frame to become a blocker.
Allen did exactly what I expected today. He’s not a burner. He’s a short-area pass catcher, a more traditional TE. Like Nicks, he produces with his pads on. I saw good hands and a guy that runs hard. Gave good effort. Had a good 3-cone time. Can block.
My QB has 2 rings. Well, 3 if you want to get technical.
2012 NYG mock - 1: Dwayne Allen TE, 2: Brandon Boykin CB/RS, 3: A.J. Jenkins WR, 4: Vick Ballard RB, 5: Neiko Thorpe S, 6: Rishard Matthews WR/RS, 6: Blake DeChristopher G/T, 7: BPA
I agree with you on everything except
I thought Allen was faster. I’m sorry, I was very disappointed in his 40. He may play faster, but whatever.
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Let's Go Giants!!!!
I'd alao take a flier on Ladarius Green in the late rounds. He's pretty raw but could benifit from growing into his frame and some good coaching.
"The saddest thing in life is wasted talent"
by Larry Soprano on Feb 25, 2012 10:21 PM EST up reply actions
the problem I have with him is
he’s only like 8-10 pounds heavier than Ramses Barden. I don’t see him putting on enough weight to play a legit TE. Putting on 30-40 lbs of muscle is a lot…a hell of a lot. It’s not like a DL that can put on some fat as well. Egnew is only about 2 pounds lighter than Kevin Boss.
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yeah, I hear ya.
This TE class is pretty freaking weak.
"The saddest thing in life is wasted talent"
by Larry Soprano on Feb 25, 2012 10:32 PM EST up reply actions
on that...we completely agree
good thing about that is, the difference between the best TE and the next 10-15 TEs may not be that much of a difference at all.
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Let's Go Giants!!!!
side topic:
I hate the thought of the Giants even considering Randy Moss….however…
A source close to the wide receiver confirmed to Yahoo! Sports on Friday that Moss’ comments weren’t a made-for-TV sound bite and he would accept a non-guaranteed contract.
“This is not about money for him, he wants to play,” the source said. “He’ll want to be paid if he makes the team, but nothing up front. He’s not trying to grab a check.”
If we could get him w/ no guarantees, and cut him if he ever even looks at Eli the wrong way w/o any repercussions, hell I’d take a flier.
Win another SB...CHECK!
Prove all the naysayers wrong...CHECK!
Stock the team with a young, core group of studs...CHECK!
Damn it's good to be a fan of the NYG
Let's Go Giants!!!!
We do not need him. We develop our own WRs and our Qb makes them shine.
This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.
I know I know
Win another SB...CHECK!
Prove all the naysayers wrong...CHECK!
Stock the team with a young, core group of studs...CHECK!
Damn it's good to be a fan of the NYG
Let's Go Giants!!!!
i know that you know. You were just pointing out that he is available Oh and Ocho Cinko is getting released too Haha
This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.
No I meant it more like
“I know I know” I shouldn’t go home with the chick, but damn have you seen her?
Not like “I know I know” I know everything
Win another SB...CHECK!
Prove all the naysayers wrong...CHECK!
Stock the team with a young, core group of studs...CHECK!
Damn it's good to be a fan of the NYG
Let's Go Giants!!!!
My fear
He would be a bit like OcHo cinco. Not fast enough to just run past guys, and not skilled enough on the routes for Eli to trust him
I just don’t see it, I know losing MM stings (presumed losing), but we’ve been pretty high on JJ and Barden (the team not the fans) even a first round rookie would be behind them in understanding the offense. Most teams have two established WRs and patch together the rest, I wouldn’t be surprised if we went that route.
Eli is our King!
actually
losing MM doesn’t sting me at all. I like him, I don’t love him. He’s made ridiculous catches for us, but he’s also been a devastating drive killer as well. I’m extremely ecstatic to see Barden out there. I think this is his year. I only wrote about Moss cuz he said he would play for no guaranteed money. I think I’d take that risk under those circumstances.
Win another SB...CHECK!
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Stock the team with a young, core group of studs...CHECK!
Damn it's good to be a fan of the NYG
Let's Go Giants!!!!
Agree that this is going to be Barden's year
We also have JJ12. Who knows what happens with Hixon. Hopefully he can resume return duties where he left off as well as WR contribution.
This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.
ok...time for another prediction
JJ12 will return a kick this year
BOOK IT!!!
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Damn it's good to be a fan of the NYG
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Possible.
His fumbles etc on returns have gone away. He also got some serious exposure to a very good Superbowl run. That has to mature him more and equip him to provide some good plays for us. He will be hungry for his 2nd ring now.
This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.
fact
Win another SB...CHECK!
Prove all the naysayers wrong...CHECK!
Stock the team with a young, core group of studs...CHECK!
Damn it's good to be a fan of the NYG
Let's Go Giants!!!!
Hope to see him score a return this year.
By the way this pic is just to demonstrate a long score.
This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.
I doubt that's a regulation air hockey puck...
"Everybody talks about a dynasty. OUR dynasty starts today." -Michael Strahan (before Super Bowl 42)
Hummmm i did wonder if those were real.
This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.
theres a puck?
Die hard Giants fan since wide Right! I was 6...
I'm down wit JPP
Yea you know me
Win Ugly.
-Eli Manning for MVP
He'll wind up back with the Patriots or perhaps Miami will try to get him...
Miami needs not only to improve their record..They are desperate to sell tickets…If they wind up getting Peyton Manning and then sign Moss…They’ll fill the stadium..Right now they can’t even sell-out team program magazines..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
This doesn't sound too good.
"He (Eli) is (a good quarterback), but there are a lot of good quarterbacks in this league," Manningham said. "I just want the ball more, that’s all."
"How many times have you seen a repeat?" he said. When the Patriots were mentioned as the last NFL team to repeat (in 2004-05), Manningham said that franchise "is a different type of breed right there, different type of coaching staff then what we [have]."
Blue Ivy? I don't even know what that means?
No one knows what it means, but its provocative, it gets the people going!
Eli Manning will be a HOFer not because of what he has done till today but because of what he will have done by the end of his career.
by BigBlueWreckingYou on Feb 26, 2012 1:41 AM EST reply actions
Ok fine. Time for a blimp ride for MM.
Rid of this guy soonest. Let him go and join the Has-Been-A-Giant-Club where we have members such as Burris, SS et al.
This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.
wow
so does he want to go to that Pats then?
New York Giants 2011 Super Bowl Champions = FACT
The NFL will now FEAR THE LOWERCASE ny
by The Always Well Dressed... on Feb 26, 2012 1:51 AM EST up reply actions
He can join the Pats WRs in their dropsies and wrong route running
This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.
If he wanted the ball more, maybe he should have been less of a bonehead
Oh, and had more talent. He’s not going to be any team’s #1 receiver.
There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only BLUE WALLS.
The 2012 Mets: Fortune cookie says come back in 2015
He is being a jerk and underscoring Eli. MM meet the BLIMP
This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.
I'm just curious where the hell he thinks he'll go to be the #1 option
The Bengals? Not with AJ Green. The Dolphins? Um, they have some guy named Marshall. The Pats? Yeah, like he’d earn Brady’s trust over Gronkowski and Welker.
The only place I could see him being the #1 is the Bears…which isn’t much of an accomplishment.
There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only BLUE WALLS.
The 2012 Mets: Fortune cookie says come back in 2015
He wouldn't be the first option on the Pats, but he would be their top deep threat
And he would be a full-time starter. I think that’s pretty much what he wants. If they brought back welker, that would be a scary offense with MM thrown in the mix.
Go Giants!
Arguing on the internet is like running in the Special Olympics. Even if you win, you're still retarded.
Bill B. told his defense not to pay any attention to him...
What makes anybody think they’d throw the ball to him if he wound up there??..lol
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Definite Blimp candidate...
However, I don’t believe a damn word written by the media..I’d need to read the entire interview..99.9 percent of the time with these media morons the whole context is intentionally twisted out of proportion…
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
I agree with him in that the Patriots ARE a "different type of breed"...
They are the type of franchise that loses their last 2 Super Bowl appearances to a team with the lower case ny on their helmets.
Write THAT down!
"Everybody talks about a dynasty. OUR dynasty starts today." -Michael Strahan (before Super Bowl 42)
by nywins46 on Feb 26, 2012 2:13 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Maybe Ham is tired of being on a
lucky team. He wants to go to a cheating team now.
New York Giants 2011 Super Bowl Champions = FACT
The NFL will now FEAR THE LOWERCASE ny
by The Always Well Dressed... on Feb 26, 2012 2:15 AM EST up reply actions
BOOM
Take that FAIR PLAY!
"Everybody talks about a dynasty. OUR dynasty starts today." -Michael Strahan (before Super Bowl 42)
honestly, I don't blame him
He would instantly be the #1 deep threat for the Pats. When he gets paid with another team, I’ll be happy for him and wish him well.
Go Giants!
Arguing on the internet is like running in the Special Olympics. Even if you win, you're still retarded.
According to New York Daily Times MM is 75% sure that he is gone
This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.
MM has proven that he lacks football intelligence
He would fail just as bad as ochostinko in NE.
by Giant Ken on Feb 26, 2012 5:05 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
No that doesn't sound to good at all....Especially the second quote...
Might as well say goodbye to him..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
SI's Tony Pauline said that if the Jets cut Bart Scott, the Giants might have interest
There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only BLUE WALLS.
The 2012 Mets: Fortune cookie says come back in 2015
What kind of money is he looking for?
This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.
Real money...
He is sick and tired of his ass trying to cash the checks that Rex’s fat mouth has been writing.
That’s funny…no tomatoes…I’m gonna black out.
"Everybody talks about a dynasty. OUR dynasty starts today." -Michael Strahan (before Super Bowl 42)
hmm, interesting...it doesn't seem like Reese's style, though
They bring in veterans at the tail end of their careers occasionally (Deon Grant, Keith Bullock), but only when they come really cheap. If he came for a million or less I could see it.
Go Giants!
Arguing on the internet is like running in the Special Olympics. Even if you win, you're still retarded.
This tells you how much I pay attention to the Jests...Who the hell is Bart Scott????
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
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