2012 NFL Draft Prospect Profiles: Peter Konz, C, Wisconsin
by Ed Valentine on Feb 21, 2012 2:06 PM EST
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Any New York Giants fan who has paid attention to how general manager Jerry Reese does things knows he does not give up quickly on the players he drafts or the free agents he brings to East Rutherford.
That said, we know that center David Baas -- Reese's primary free-agent acquisition prior to the 2011 season -- struggled in his first season with the Giants. He had a neck injury, a mysterious head injury, took a while to smooth out the communication along the offensive line and ended the season with a poor - 8.9 grade from Pro Football Focus, 29th among NFL centers.
So, would the Giants look for a replacement for Baas this offseason? In all honesty, the answer is probably no. Still, its draft season so any possibility is on the table.
Today, then, we will use or 2012 NFL Draft Prospect Profile on Wisconsin center Peter Konz, the most highly-regarded center in this years draft class. It just so happens that Draft Countdown ranks Konz No. 32 on its Big Board, right where the Giants happen to draft.
Wes Bunting of the National Football Post ranks Konz No. 18 on his Big Board. Bunting sees Konz as a player who can step in and start for a team immediately. Here is part of Bunting's report:
For a taller center showcases impressive flexibility, as he typically gains leverage on contact and uses his length to gain proper hand placement. Has some limitations because of his height and will allow defenders to get under him at times.
However, for the most part is able to quickly re-set his hands, sink his hips and keep the inside of the pocket clean in pass protection.
Showcases an good snap through the hips in the run game, is routinely able to create a push inside and drive opposing nose tackles away from the play and/or seal. Looks like a "plus" run blocker in the NFL in more of an angle scheme.
In its analysis of Konz, CBS Sports raises the intriguing notion -- for the Giants -- that Konz has a skill set that might translate to the guard position.
"Konz has an excellent combination of size, strength and quickness and possesses the skill-set to also line up at guard if needed (despite only playing center in college). He blocks with very good balance and raw power and is the top center in this draft class, projecting as a solid top-30 pick."
Peter Konz Profile
Height: 6-foot-5
Weight: 315
40 Time: 5.15 (Pre-Combine)
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I'll take him and move Baas over to LG
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 21, 2012 2:11 PM EST reply actions
I'll take him and move Baas over to LG
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 21, 2012 2:11 PM EST reply actions
This be the guy.
I really like this guy, questions is can Baas play other than Center? Also Diehl and McKenzie have to go, they are boht making way to much money for the “suspect” play.
Baas was never a center until we got him...
World Series attitude, champagne bottle life, nothing every changes so tonight is like tomorrow night.
Baas played center before he came to us.
This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.
Baas
Played one year as starting center in San Francisco.
by Ed Valentine on Feb 21, 2012 2:17 PM EST up reply actions
If that's this is case
Then I would draft this kid and re work the OL. Minus Dielh and McKenzie of course.
Baas Was Mediocre
at G, supposedly much better at C. For whatever it’s worth.
by Pink Flamingo on Feb 21, 2012 2:29 PM EST up reply actions
Actually with the players we have and the young ones who did not see the play time once they are on the field our OL will be fine. We just need to add rotation and groom some players.
This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.
Yes
Have a top flight center for the next 10 years? No brainer.
Nothing is a guarantee.
"They got a big-mouthed coach, a big mouth and a big-bellied coach that talks too much and now it's finally time to shut up- Brandon Jacobs
Only Reese knows for sure
if this guy is gonna be great for sure..
by BigBlueDeadHead on Feb 21, 2012 2:20 PM EST up reply actions
aside from Matt Kalil and David DeCastro
Konz is probably the only OL I’d take in the first.
As far as players on offense go, he’s right there with Dwayne Allen, Alshon Jeffrey and Mike Floyd as possibilities to slide to #32 and who I’d like the GInts to draft.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
That's one thing we agree on
We don’t always agree, but with you there.
I’d throw in Adams too if he fell, but Konz would be ideal
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by Jesse Bartolis on Feb 21, 2012 2:52 PM EST up reply actions
DeCastro
would be mine, but I like Glenn as well.
by Pink Flamingo on Feb 21, 2012 3:17 PM EST up reply actions
I'll take DeCastro over Glenn. But I love me some Glenn too.
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 21, 2012 3:25 PM EST up reply actions
Realistically
we probably don’t have much of a shot at either, DeCastro even less so.
The combine is going to be mighty interesting, though. Somebody’s going to cascade down…or rise up…
by Pink Flamingo on Feb 21, 2012 3:31 PM EST up reply actions
Agreed, though for OL, I don't think the Combine will be as important.
Unless you want to look at footwork…and both are excellent at that.
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 21, 2012 3:33 PM EST up reply actions
Right
I meant overall. The current board is going to move around a lot…which, if we see a bunch of other players emerge into top-15 picks, could push some of these guys down where we have a shot.
I think the combine is going to be huge for the WRs, and could sort out the TEs a bit more as well.
by Pink Flamingo on Feb 21, 2012 4:00 PM EST up reply actions
should have clarified
I think Adams has more of a shot to fall to us than Glenn because of the Ohio State stuff.
I would take Glenn, Adams, DeCastro, martin, Kalil, Konz
"I have never in my life learned anything from any man who agreed with me." Dudley Field Malone
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by Jesse Bartolis on Feb 21, 2012 11:19 PM EST up reply actions
Watch Snee get back into form
When he doesn’t have a revolving door to his left and to his right.
Will lightning really strike twice?
Hope So
But he’s had 2 declining years…in 2010 K-Mac was very good, so he did have help on the one side.
by Pink Flamingo on Feb 21, 2012 2:32 PM EST up reply actions
Isn't the bigger need at OT?
I know Giants like to pick best talent available, not so much by position. But seems to me the more urgent need is the outside part of the line, not the inside. We got guards (Bass, Petrus, Boothe) but if we get rid of K-Mac — and maybe Diehl too — we only have one starting tackle left, right?
Arguably Yes
Depends on whether they keep Diehl and/or where they think Brewer is at.
by Pink Flamingo on Feb 21, 2012 2:34 PM EST up reply actions
OT vs OG
Well, it all depends on what they do in Free Agency. Let’s just say that the team would like/need to keep just Bass, Snee and Beatty as the starters from 2011.
They do seem to have some pretty good players who can step in and play Guard on the roster, but not really so much at Tackle.
One would think that if they are going to spend any money at all in Free Agency, it would be to get a starting Tackle. It is an expensive move, but it may be necessary.
IF they sign a tackle, then it wouldn’t be a big surprise if they pick a kid who can play G/C. It is certainly within the philosophy of what we’ve seen from them. This is especially true if they really like this kid.
What I’m thinking is more likely is that if they end up selecting an OL with the 32 pick, it would be for a kid who can play immediately at G, but could fill in at tackle if necessary. Usually this is a kid who played tackle in college but projects to G in the NFL.
I’m not really sure what the plan will be if they don’t address the Tackle position before the draft.
Thanks for the new post...
didn’t want to stare at Diehl until tomorrow
"Everybody talks about a dynasty. OUR dynasty starts today." -Michael Strahan (before Super Bowl 42)
That Deihl
looks like the guy form that old movie Hunchback of N….
This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.
We know Reese and company have plans to renew the Oline
They may have thought we were OK with the exception of RT going into 2012 until the NFC championship. Reese had to sit back and watch his franchise SB MVP (now 2 time) quarterback take the beating of his career. All im gonna say is if e aren’t dressing quality Oline man we better be drafting a quality back up quarterback.
by hit_hard on Feb 21, 2012 2:44 PM EST via mobile reply actions
True, Eli took a beating
I was watching highlights from the Green Bay and San Fran games…may did he take a BEATing!! Lordy!
Fixing the OL has to be top priority….but with JR who knows.
I trust in Reese, he'll figure it out.
Last 2 off seasons everyone was screaming LBers. He picked up a couple 6th rounders and UDF. Without a 1st,2nd or even 3rd pick with those 2 years and no ones complaining..Who would have thought?! Its all about balance and he doesn’t have any money to work with so he has to be creative.
by hit_hard on Feb 21, 2012 3:21 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I dunno...
There were times this season where it seemed we should’ve invested a little more in the LB position. Mostly because of injury, sure, but still.
- Mumble
"At the end of the day..." - Antrel Rolle
That would have helped especially in the division games,
This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.
we HOPE
We hope that Reese will fix the oline. What Reese actually does is anybodies guess. I would not be surprised if the top 3 picks in this draft are DE, WR, and DB in some order. He could very well draft some developmental guy in the 6th round, because other the Beatty that has been his MO.
I don't know what it is....
after screaming for olinemen that last two years I think I’m over it.
just move Diehl to RT and be done with it.
Fire Fewell
Let's See
what Brewer can do. He won’t be as savvy as a veteran like Diehl, but his athleticism could make up the difference.
by Pink Flamingo on Feb 21, 2012 3:29 PM EST up reply actions
I wanted to see what Beatty could do before he was actually given the chance to start
actually, way before
I don’t just see the Giants giving Brewer the job….and that’s basically what they would be doing if they cut DD.
unless of course they address it during FA or a high draft pick….like 32nd overall draft pick.
Fire Fewell
Probably
right, we’ll have to go to camp to get a true read on Brewer, but if you have to make a decision on Diehl now, it gets tricky. Stacy Andrews and Tony Ugoh are other guys that could play RT – but not sure what anybody really thinks of them inside the Giants’ braintrust.
by Pink Flamingo on Feb 21, 2012 4:03 PM EST up reply actions
let's not
he had no positives to his game in college and needs at least a couple years of coaching. he hasn’t even had a true offseason yet. Brewer if lucky will be a legit backup in the second half of the year.
World Series attitude, champagne bottle life, nothing every changes so tonight is like tomorrow night.
Flaherty
can hopefully turn this dancing bear into something. He’s thought to have LT abilities and athleticism, so RT could—could—be within reach. But nobody knows where he’s at, outside the NYG staff.
by Pink Flamingo on Feb 21, 2012 6:24 PM EST up reply actions
he had plenty of positives in his game in college, I dunno where you pulled that one from
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
Height-Weight-Speed 1 Excellent frame and average top-end speed
Durability 4 Diagnosed with a blood clot in each lung and missed the last two games of the 2009 season. Had to take blood thinners and held out of all contact drills during 2010 spring drills. Missed Indiana and Michigan games with a sprained ankle in 2010. Dislocated left ankle against Minnesota and missed the next three games including the Big Ten Championship game in 2011 but returned to start against Oregon in the Rose Bowl.
Intangibles 2 Named Wisconsin’s offensive scout team player of the week prior to 2008 Fresno State game. Wrote a letter to Badger fans thanking them and explaining his decision to declare for the draft.
1 = Exceptional2 = Above average3 = Average4 = Below average5 = Marginal
Offensive Center Specific Traits
Pass Protection 3 Finds ways to get the job done but a limited athlete that benefitted from mobile quarterback and run/play action heavy attack. Average initial quickness and has problems preventing penetration working against quicker defensive tackles. Not agile enough to recover when oversets or stay in front when the defender redirects. Flashes above average upper body strength on film but initial punch is average at best. Not an effective hand fighter at this point. Bit of a waist bender but plays with a wide base and holds ground against bull rushers.
Run Blocking 2 "Gets into adequate initial position and walls off defenders long enough for backs to locate seam. While plays too high and doesn’t roll hips into blocks, drives legs and flashes the ability to move defenders off the ball once in position. Doesn’t have the lateral quickness to seal front side one-techniques when asked to zone block and doesn’t get any help from guard. However, makes up for it with smarts and effort. Works to get helmet on play side when does get help and washes defenders down the line of scrimmage when he can’t get around the defender. While has problems adjusting to moving targets and looks stiff in space, takes adequate angles to second level blocks and flashes the ability to cut off backside linebackers. Makes up for average range with smooth pivot and can get around the corner when asked to pull. "
Awareness 1 Identifies middle linebacker before every snap. Keeps head on a swivel in pass protection. Picks up line stunts and blitzes. Keeps head up and locates linebackers when asked to combo block up to the second level. Identifies second level assignments.
Toughness 3 Has battled though medical issues to start 30 games in three years. Finishes blocks and flashes killer instinct but more of a relentless wall-off positional blocker than a mauler. Could be more aggressive in pass protection and space.
Strikeouts are boring- Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.
He'd be a top 30 pick had he not had the extensive injury history
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 21, 2012 3:43 PM EST up reply actions
two words for everyone
Cordy Glenn
Win another SB...CHECK!
Prove all the naysayers wrong...CHECK!
Stock the team with a young, core group of studs...CHECK!
Damn it's good to be a fan of the NYG
Let's Go Giants!!!!
three words:
won’t be available.
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 21, 2012 3:43 PM EST up reply actions
is fat and gets torched by Dls with average athleticism
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
I remember you saying you liked Kelechi Osemele at 32, who happens to be just as fat
as well as slower.
I also remember you talking about Whitney Mercilus having one bad game, and that happens.
Double standard vs Glenn, I guess, who not only succeedeed at G and RT in 2010, but succeeded for the most part as a LT in the SEC in 2011. Had one bad game vs Boise State, but I guess he isn’t allowed to have that. Which is even more crazy considering you were pounding the table so hard for Mike Pouncey, who’s had many more average to bad games at his position than Glenn has had at his.
On top of that, if you are athletic, being fat means nothing. Carl Nicks is the best guard in the NFL and is close to 350 lbs. The Refrigerator in his day topped out at 370 some seasons. Glenn is 345 and I’m willing to bet that at the combine he’s going to show up below 340. On top of that, he’s got great athleticism. You have to, in order to play LT at that weight.
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 21, 2012 5:33 PM EST up reply actions
Too Fat
Here’s another guy who’s too fat for us.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXMku4m3twI
I’ll take him at 32.
by Pink Flamingo on Feb 21, 2012 5:53 PM EST up reply actions
I like Poe. Mammoth of a guy. I like a few other DTs before him.
I like Brockers and Still are probably more boom or bust types, but they are athletic monsters. Cox is a nice penetrating type (pause) that would fit playing over a gap, whereas Poe could be like very good NT. I have Poe and Cox rated in nearly the same draft range.
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 21, 2012 7:44 PM EST up reply actions
Osemele is not nearly as fat
Glenn is a titty monster. Osemele is a poor man’s Iupati, he’s just large.
I don’t want GLenn cuz he’s just gigantic. He’s basically ready to pop.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
They both have good weight distribution, man.
Osemele is 346lbs. Same weight. I guess we’ll see this weekend.
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 21, 2012 8:32 PM EST up reply actions
"Needs Salt"....
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
BLASPHEMY!!
I sir have watch many a Georgia game I thou art most incorrect my good fellow. Glenn has superior athleticism for a man of his stature and is quite capable of subduing power and speed rusher. why I was watching the senior bowl practices and he was quite impressive agains Coples, Upshaw, and Ingram. pip pip cheerio.
I see your point. However. Your stupid.
we're the Giants, we don't worry about the senior bowl
leave that to the Eagles.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
Take Konz...
If available for Giants in 1st round, definitely take him. Again, with both Baas and Konz, you’d have two guys that can play both Center and Guard. Have them both compete along with the other lineman in camp. Line starters will be better and line depth will be better. Sounds good to me.
Why I like Konz
Drove defenders further backwards than any other OL in college last year. And he moves well.
My QB has 2 rings. Well, 3 if you want to get technical.
2012 NYG mock - 1: Dwayne Allen TE, 2: Brandon Boykin CB/RS, 3: A.J. Jenkins WR, 4: Vick Ballard RB, 5: Neiko Thorpe S, 6: Rishard Matthews WR/RS, 6: Blake DeChristopher G/T, 7: BPA
by ct17 on Feb 21, 2012 4:28 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Like Konz a lot
Agree ct17
Has some nick Mangold in his game.
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by Jesse Bartolis on Feb 21, 2012 11:25 PM EST up reply actions
Sounds like a reasonable choice..
I don’t know as much about this guy, but from reading this he sounds like a decent potential pick…
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Love the unanimity
for a first round OL pick
Konz—good name for an OL
Glenn won't be there...Konz may and if you've seen that Wisconsin run game...whooooahhh
Talk about re-establishing the LOS.
In the end whoever has longer arms and can do more backflips!
All the way to a Super Bowl victory like a knife through butter
JPP Is hands down the best DE in the NFL right now
Can't spell Elite without ELI
Jerry Reese for President 2012..let's make that happen!
Hahaha!!..Long arme and backflips..definite criteria!!..LOL!!
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Thanks Bobbi...you know it's true!
But seriously I do hope we go for OL who are technicians to atleast an above average strength.
Then look for the measurables eat a house and still hit any LB in the hole…bench press a Buick..arms longer than a 747….
OK, how many bad teams before 32 will reach for "need" so some beast drops right in our laps
In the end whoever has the longest arms and or does more backflips will be our 1st rounder...and he will dominate!
Like in the 1st: Glenn,Konz,Allen,Barron,maybe U-Smelly..
2nd: Brandon Washington,Fleener
3rd:Hope Polk or a sweet OL or DB falls to us
Draft 3 OL's and sign Tony G.
Jerry Reese for President 2012..let's make that happen!
by Shaunthegiant on Feb 21, 2012 6:02 PM EST up reply actions
When they picked him I was like...Who the hell is that!!!
Then I saw the video of him doing backflips…..I’m like WOW…Great pick…haha
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
So how will those backflips can be handy while playing DL?
This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.
3rd round sleeper: OG Amini Silatolu
Hopefully, he doesn’t have a big combine and move up.
Team Ghost: Manningham, Sintim, Beckum, Barden, JPP, Anvil, Ross
Mayock
Is already pumping him:
http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-combine/09000d5d8270c217/Mayock-s-top-O-line-prospects
by Pink Flamingo on Feb 21, 2012 6:32 PM EST up reply actions
Crap
Mayock needs to stop. I don’t need Amini getting pub.
Team Ghost: Manningham, Sintim, Beckum, Barden, JPP, Anvil, Ross
Yeah, Amini is pretty well known. Some have him going mid to early 2nd.
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 21, 2012 7:45 PM EST up reply actions
AFC Personnel Director
Said “Silatalou is more talented than Decastro”
he’s well known.
"I have never in my life learned anything from any man who agreed with me." Dudley Field Malone
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by Jesse Bartolis on Feb 21, 2012 11:30 PM EST up reply actions
Another name I like
because it sort of sounds Samoan. All other things being equal, I’ll take a Samoan every time
Samoans are beasts
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 21, 2012 7:45 PM EST up reply actions
Name Sounds Like
“A meany.”
Which, according to Mayock, he is.
by Pink Flamingo on Feb 21, 2012 10:01 PM EST up reply actions
Silatolu is all over the "small school" prospects lists.
So he’s not so much a sleeper as he is a risk. Somebody will take the chance. He had to bail out of the senior bowl due injury, which was helpful if you are hoping that he’s still around when the Giants pick in round 2.
If he does measure 6’3", and looks like he belongs at the next level of competition, he is certainly the Giants type of guy.
This is the kid I had in mind when I mentioned above that I can see the Giants using a high draft pick on a kid who could play now at G, but could fill in at tackle. It’s the kind of thing this team does frequently and values highly. If he can play right tackle, then tackle it is. If not, we’ve got a spot at guard for him. Essentially, if the kid can play, he’d be filling the Deihl spot on the roster for $3 million per year less for the next 4 years. It’s a good pick, IF HE CAN PLAY.
"A Kid I Can't Wait to Watch"
Yeah, that sounds like pub. “Trust me folks, he’s nasty as can be.” I like that.
“He might be a second round pick.” Sounds good too, if he lasts to 64.
Just like last year, I want.....
Two OL in the first three picks. I’ll take both of these guys. And then grab again another one in round 5. And then do it again next year.
Coughlin owns Belichick.
by Spider Lockhart on Feb 22, 2012 3:36 AM EST up reply actions
Yes..that is the George Young/Bill Parcells mentality..
You don’t get anywhere in this league without a solid, talented O-line…They’ve been riding Elis back for too long..Eventually he’s going to break if they don’t get him help up front..Somebody out here jumped on me over saying the line didn’t do its job..Said I was being harsh..I didn’t bother responding..Because they didn’t do their job..why bother getting into a contest over it?..I give Flaherty alot of credit for patching a quilt together, but they could open a hole for the running game and they forced Eli to allude rushers..they hardly protected him..Now normally a O-line loves to run the ball..Not this bunch…You hand the ball off and they are looking at a can of sardines when they hit the line..So they need to evaluate who they have in the wings and then find players to solve this..Then of course we need two TEs..that’s a huge issue to resolve…
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Agree. It does not help overdoing try to prove point on internet. It can go in circles.
This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.
Good player
I would be happy with this pick. If Brewer isn’t ready to take over that RT position, I would re-work Diehl contract and move him to RT. That would give us a line of Beatty-Baas-Konz-Snee-Diehl.
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