Mel Kiper 2012 NFL Mock Draft 2.0: Dwayne Allen, TE, Clemson To Giants
by Ed Valentine on Feb 15, 2012 2:01 PM EST
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PrintI must have been reading Mel Kiper Jr.'s mind when I began my series of 2012 NFL Draft Prospect Profiles with a look at Clemson tight end Dwayne Allen.
That is because Kiper today selected Allen for the Giants [Insider Only] in version 2.0 of his 2012 NFL Mock Draft, just released today.
Here is what Kiper said about Allen to the Giants:
The Super Bowl will provide plenty of good memories for Giants fans, but from a personnel standpoint, people should also remember the injuries they suffered at tight end, and Allen is the best one in this draft. He's a fantastic athlete, can create matchup problems and further diversify the Giants' offense as they maximize this window of exceptional quarterback play. The Giants could also look for help on the offensive line, or target a linebacker here, but I expect Allen's profile to rise during the workout process, and he should represent a lot of value here.
Oh, and in case you were wondering about this. Yes, it scares me to be thinking the saw way as Kiper.
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What a surprise...
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 15, 2012 2:05 PM EST reply actions
turn
brandon Jacobs into a TE! solves a lot of problems
by smaugtheterrible on Feb 16, 2012 8:11 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah we have covered that here. He can block and catch. He has the size to plow people. This makes TE not that much of a priority as Bear can backup. Thing is His salary.
This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.
Remembered for the injuries they suffered at TE*
- - and CB, Safety, LB, DL, OL, and RB.
Regardless of what happens, No playoffs, playoffs, no superblow, superblow.... The 2011/2012 is one of my favorite Giants Teams of all time.
apparently * = bullet point.
Regardless of what happens, No playoffs, playoffs, no superblow, superblow.... The 2011/2012 is one of my favorite Giants Teams of all time.
I would love a big, physical tight end that can block...
But if he is going to be as highly valued as Kiper thinks, why would he fall to us at 32? *basking*I still love that we have the 32nd pick*basking*
And Ed…
Oh, and in case you were wondering about this. Yes, it scares me to be thinking the [same] way as Kiper.
Step one is admitting the problem, step two is doing something about it.
The Possimpible - Where the possible and impossible meet - Barney Stinson
Big Blue View - Supporting the Catalina Wine Mixer since 2011
not many people have glaring needs for TEs. And this draft is real top heavy at CB and WR
I can see close to 5 or 6 CBs and 4 WRs going in the first round. On top of that, you have 6 or so OL, 5ish pass rushers, plus 3 QBs and 1 or 2 RBs and a few LBs sprinkled in, and you can see him dropping lol
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 15, 2012 2:15 PM EST up reply actions
Dre kirkpatrick
Wud love it if he falls
by NYGFan777 on Feb 15, 2012 2:21 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
So would I, but I don't think there's any chance of that happening lol
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 15, 2012 2:24 PM EST up reply actions
Did you ever think Prince would fall to us.
I didn’t ….. Its gonna be a defensive pick in my opinion.
nope, but back then we picked at 19. Kirkpatrick is in the same class of prospect as Prince.
ranked as maybe the 8th or 9th best in the draft. No way he lasts till 32
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 15, 2012 2:37 PM EST up reply actions
32
is actually a great spot to find guys. There’s always somebody who shockingly slips to the end of the round.
Still, I wouldn’t be opposed to using some of our 9 picks and trade up to get somebody like a David DeCastro.
by Pink Flamingo on Feb 15, 2012 2:51 PM EST up reply actions
People do slip though so we can wait and see or go BPA
This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.
i also think if allen isnt there
It’ll be a d pick for sure
by jhMLB on Feb 15, 2012 6:09 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
He does have some nice size
and length.
Ricky Williams retired....Cue up Bob Marley,
"Excuse me while I light my spliff"...
by Great Gatsby on Feb 16, 2012 9:29 AM EST up reply actions
Ed with glued down-slicked back vampire hair...GIF?
Now in section 133.
by Last year in Sec 127 on Feb 15, 2012 2:21 PM EST up reply actions
x
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 15, 2012 2:23 PM EST up reply actions
And smarmy.
Now in section 133.
by Last year in Sec 127 on Feb 15, 2012 2:26 PM EST up reply actions
Swarley?
"The saddest thing in life is wasted talent"
by Larry Soprano on Feb 15, 2012 4:07 PM EST up reply actions
lol
New York Giants 2011 Super Bowl Champions = FACT
The NFL will now FEAR THE LOWERCASE ny
by The Always Well Dressed... on Feb 15, 2012 4:12 PM EST up reply actions
I come to suck your blood
Muhahahahahahaha
Why is Tom Quinn still here? I loves me some Coach Clawfin. NY Football Giants 2012 Super FN Bowl Champions!!!!!!
by costanza! on Feb 15, 2012 2:46 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
We have a vampire
amongst the troops, LOL!
Ricky Williams retired....Cue up Bob Marley,
"Excuse me while I light my spliff"...
by Great Gatsby on Feb 16, 2012 9:13 AM EST up reply actions
looks like he's forcing out a large poop
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
Does Mel still use
Vitallis, inquiring minds want to know, LOL!
Ricky Williams retired....Cue up Bob Marley,
"Excuse me while I light my spliff"...
by Great Gatsby on Feb 16, 2012 9:11 AM EST up reply actions
Hey Ed
It should scare anybody to think like Kiper, LOL!
Ricky Williams retired....Cue up Bob Marley,
"Excuse me while I light my spliff"...
by Great Gatsby on Feb 16, 2012 9:09 AM EST up reply actions
A lot of teams go for need!
I think as we look at mock drafts, those mocking look at the team needs and the quality of the player as the picks roll along. Other teams may need a TE too, but they have other bigger holes to fix. I have seen Glenn go the the Steelers. I know I have seen posts dissing Bleacher but today’s post has some very good options for our team through picks seven, and yes Allen is at one along with a few other OLs. I am sure you will get to a LBs from NC State and Utah State that intrigue me in the 2nd or 3rd rounds. I am sure you will get to them Ed along the way. Here is the link…
by Exiled in Missouri on Feb 15, 2012 3:09 PM EST up reply actions
before we made the playoffs,
i was having dinner with my pops and he was like i wonder who they gonna draft next year, i was like yea we cant expect much with the 32nd pick.
he didnt get it for a few and then realized. that was just me kidding around and look what happened. ha.
New York Knicks '11-'12. lets gooo! ny
by redwhitblue88 on Feb 15, 2012 4:56 PM EST up reply actions
...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZxNeFLuY98
I'd like to thank the good Lord for making me a Yankee fan.
by NJsandman on Feb 15, 2012 2:27 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Who the hell is Mel Kiper?
you beat me to it
Blue is the color of melancholy and honesty
Green is the color of inexperience, envy and nausea.
the fullback one was great
New York Giants 2011 Super Bowl Champions = FACT
The NFL will now FEAR THE LOWERCASE ny
by The Always Well Dressed... on Feb 15, 2012 2:30 PM EST up reply actions
The jets select...
Fullback…
from crowd: OH NO!
BAHAHAHAHAHA!
that is motherf***ing hilarious
Eli Manning is The Boston Strangler
The 2011 New York Giants = The best 9-7 team of all time
ALL IN!!!!
by JasonPierrePwned on Feb 15, 2012 8:39 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Yesterday
him and Tawd said DE was one of their needs, like what?
They had OL, LB, then DE?
Ricky Williams retired....Cue up Bob Marley,
"Excuse me while I light my spliff"...
by Great Gatsby on Feb 16, 2012 9:15 AM EST up reply actions
Oh that's the Jest's for you
hahahahah!!!!!!!!!!
Why is Tom Quinn still here? I loves me some Coach Clawfin. NY Football Giants 2012 Super FN Bowl Champions!!!!!!
Kyle Brady over Warren Sapp
I was laughing then and I’m laughing now!!! Hahahahahahahahahah!!!!!!!!!!!!
Why is Tom Quinn still here? I loves me some Coach Clawfin. NY Football Giants 2012 Super FN Bowl Champions!!!!!!
lol
New York Giants 2011 Super Bowl Champions = FACT
The NFL will now FEAR THE LOWERCASE ny
by The Always Well Dressed... on Feb 15, 2012 3:01 PM EST up reply actions
Ken O'Brien over Marino
That was supposedly because Marino was allegedly fond of nose candy at Piit.
O’Brien was still better than Todd Blackledge and Tony Eason
Blue is the color of melancholy and honesty
Green is the color of inexperience, envy and nausea.
Marino over Blackledge
Was a no brainier. At least Marino had lit it up at Pitt and broke all kinds of records. Blackledge was solid for Penn State but nothing to right home about.
Why is Tom Quinn still here? I loves me some Coach Clawfin. NY Football Giants 2012 Super FN Bowl Champions!!!!!!
FYI - someone (it's suspected an agent for another QB) planted rumors about Marino
Cocaine and bad attitude uncooperative
Shula knew his coach, called him and got the low down, Fazio says no one else even called. Scouting failure extreme.
Eli is our King!
I know Ken O'Brien wasn't Marino
but he was REALLY good. I don’t think, even know what we know now, that that was a terrible pick.
Win another SB...CHECK!
Prove all the naysayers wrong...CHECK!
Stock the team with a young, core group of studs...CHECK!
Damn it's good to be a fan of the NYG
Let's Go Giants!!!!
Keep in mind
a lot of teams passed on Marino. I don’t think there will ever be a run like that again,
on QB’s in the first round.
Ricky Williams retired....Cue up Bob Marley,
"Excuse me while I light my spliff"...
by Great Gatsby on Feb 16, 2012 9:18 AM EST up reply actions
Hahaha!!!!...What a bunch of dopes...
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Well now
I understand why they were so bad for so long
Self-praise is for losers. Be a winner. Stand for something. Always have class, and be humble.
-John Madden
"Luck means a lot in football. Not having a good quarterback is bad luck." -Don Shula
"You just don't throw on Chase Blackburn.''
WE WANT SAPP, WE WANT SAPP
With the first round pick the jets select TE Kyle Brady “BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO” haha same ol jets
Eli Manning is The Boston Strangler
The 2011 New York Giants = The best 9-7 team of all time
ALL IN!!!!
by JasonPierrePwned on Feb 15, 2012 8:43 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Great value at #32
I wouldn’t mind this pick at all. With JR history he’s going bpa mode. This will be a great pick if we lose Manningham.
Who the hell is Mel Kiper?
If you don’t recall who said that, neither do I, but he was the guy in charge of drafting Jeff Lageman for the Jets.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZxNeFLuY98
Blue is the color of melancholy and honesty
Green is the color of inexperience, envy and nausea.
The best one
was many years ago on draft day, Bill Pollian was with the Bills then (then Panthers, Colts)…
The Bills drafted somebody that Kiper didn’t like the selection, then Mel starts rambling
about this is why they are the Bills, blah blah. Then later Pollian says, “Who the hell is
Mel Kiper”…I was laughing my ass off!
Ricky Williams retired....Cue up Bob Marley,
"Excuse me while I light my spliff"...
by Great Gatsby on Feb 16, 2012 9:36 AM EST up reply actions
they aren't terrible. There are much worse.
http://www.thehuddlereport.com/Free/mockdraftscoring.shtml
Mel Kiper usually is one of the best at getting picks right. If you guys REALLY want the inside scoop on who gets picked where…go for Rick Gosselin’s mock draft. It comes out in early April, so you’ll have to wait for awhile, but he gets around 60-75% of the picks correct.
He actually talks to team representatives and gets a really, really good idea of who’s going to be the pick. I’ve won a lot of money from friends by betting on 1st rounds over the years by looking at his mock drafts.
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 15, 2012 2:43 PM EST up reply actions
Interesting data
This site is essentially tracking how good these guys are at picking who will be drafted where. I guess that’s the point of mock drafts, so it makes sense.
I’d like to see who the best talent evaluators are based on players 2-3 years out. That would tell me who’s got the best big board. The problem is injuries, coaching etc, are as important as a player’s skills the day he’s drafted.
Blue is the color of melancholy and honesty
Green is the color of inexperience, envy and nausea.
Talent evaluation is inherently subjective, no?
For example. Giants in 2010 got JPP at 15 who’s an all-pro. Falcons got Sean Weatherspoon at 19, who looks to be on his way towards being one of the best 4-3 OLBs. Who was a better talent evaluator, Reese, or Dimitroff who got a great player 4 pick later.
Though you are right, I’d love to see who hit on more picks and who didn’t.
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 15, 2012 4:18 PM EST up reply actions
Talent evaluation is subjective
you are correct sir. There is no way to compare and contrast different players in different systems. That is part of the beauty of the NFL.
Would JPP been as good had he been an Eagle? No one can say. Coaching, Veteran players and overall team mentality enabled him to thrive in this environment. What about Philly?? we could only guess.
Regardless of what happens, No playoffs, playoffs, no superblow, superblow.... The 2011/2012 is one of my favorite Giants Teams of all time.
JPP would have been good anywhere but Giants were the best situation for him because of our already existing talent at that position and LBs. He thrived and at times got double teamed to help open other pass rushers
This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.
IDK about that
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
This just in...Haynesworth cut...AGAIN
The Possimpible - Where the possible and impossible meet - Barney Stinson
Big Blue View - Supporting the Catalina Wine Mixer since 2011
Ha
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
He was the big winner in the lockout.
When the owners opted out of the labor agreement in 2009 it meant 2010 was an uncapped year. Albert got between $32 and $41 million off Daniel Snyder for 2009 and 2010.
Blue is the color of melancholy and honesty
Green is the color of inexperience, envy and nausea.
Albert should really be ashamed of himself
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
Dan Snyder should be ashamed of himself
Nobody was worth that money. least of all a headcase like Albert.
Blue is the color of melancholy and honesty
Green is the color of inexperience, envy and nausea.
Snyder pissed off every owner in the league with that contract he gave the humbacked whale..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Yeah
Not even good ol Al (RIP) wouldve tossed that kinda dough to that fool.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
The money and the free atmosphere ruined him even more than he was already.
Had he just gotten a competive contract from a hard nosed team like Pit, B-More, NYG, or the Pats (at that time) i think he would have been a way better pro and still highly productive.
But when you get a hundred million from a team where Clinton Portis seemed to be the assistant coach/ GM then you know things were not going to end well.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
I agree with this
A.H. would have not been allowed to be that player on the Giants.. Players are held accountable for every play.
Regardless of what happens, No playoffs, playoffs, no superblow, superblow.... The 2011/2012 is one of my favorite Giants Teams of all time.
Like Blue Gates said above
Al should be ashamed of himself.
This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.
Fat Albert
just didn’t want to play in a 3-4, basically took the money and ran, doubt he gets
another opportunity.
Ricky Williams retired....Cue up Bob Marley,
"Excuse me while I light my spliff"...
by Great Gatsby on Feb 16, 2012 9:43 AM EST up reply actions
If you think about it, fat Albert is a genius.
He managed to get paid 100 million to suck.
Eli Manning is The Boston Strangler
The 2011 New York Giants = The best 9-7 team of all time
ALL IN!!!!
by JasonPierrePwned on Feb 15, 2012 8:46 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Thank God Ed doesn't look like Kiper...Egads!!!
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Ed has nicer shoes
Why is Tom Quinn still here? I loves me some Coach Clawfin. NY Football Giants 2012 Super FN Bowl Champions!!!!!!
Yeah those Brown earth shoes are classic...
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
LOL!!! Saweet!!!!!!!!!!!
Why is Tom Quinn still here? I loves me some Coach Clawfin. NY Football Giants 2012 Super FN Bowl Champions!!!!!!
Ed my guess is he stole your pick
Hes think like you, not the other way around.
by hit_hard on Feb 15, 2012 2:48 PM EST via mobile reply actions
This Allen kid looks pretty darn good...
He may very well be around when we pick…I can’t think of any other teams really needing TE help.
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
You gotta look deeper than just TE help
You have to see which teams have young QB’s, TE’s are a young QB’s best friend
Also you have to look at who needs receiver help especially an inside receiver, may be better to get a TE than a slot receiver at that point in the first round.
Also the BPA aspect, he may just be that high on some people’s boards so i wouldnt be surprised if he’s long gone.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
if you think that direction
Most young teams with young qbs are drafting much higher in the draft. They may have to trade down or up to get allen b4 us.
by jhMLB on Feb 15, 2012 6:13 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Thats one reason why
I’ve been thinking the Broncos would grab him before he falls to us
by Raptor22 on Feb 15, 2012 7:04 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
We should just stick with BPA with eye on pass rushers
This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.
I don't see us needing a LB in the first round...
I doubt very much we’ll see that happening..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
I havent seen anyone lately push for LB
the only coversations I have seen is who will be the BPA by the time #32 rolls on the clock..
My money is on Allen
Regardless of what happens, No playoffs, playoffs, no superblow, superblow.... The 2011/2012 is one of my favorite Giants Teams of all time.
I'll match that bet...I think he'll be there at #32...
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
That is the big question...TE...
I really don’t see them having much choice..We need help at that position…One thing I do fear is that other teams know we need help at TE..so we might wind up getting screwed. They don’t want the Champs to cover a weakness, so they’ll pick a guy like that to prevent it..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Wow!
I guess some teams could think that way, but when they have needs in other areas, I can’t see that. Could open up another area of need like OL or LB for the best player available.
by Exiled in Missouri on Feb 15, 2012 3:28 PM EST up reply actions
I wonder..
If somebody really wants him, it probably wouldn’t be hard to trade for the Pats pick at 31. They already have 2 1st rounders and 2 second rounders I seem to recall. We all know the Pats love to get even more picks.
No one knows or can guess what Pats can or will do. BB is different
This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.
if other teams think that by selecting someone to hurt another team
then they are just plain out retarded. Just like when the Eagles signed Steve Smith. They did not sign him because they needed him or wanted him. They did it out of fear. The Eagles truly fear the lowercase ny. As they should. But to draft a player to prevent him being drafted by a rival I don’t see happening. Free Agency yes, the draft not so much.
Die hard Giants fan since wide Right! I was 6...
I'm down wit JPP
Yea you know me
Win Ugly.
-Eli Manning for MVP
Yeah that is kinda steep but it happens
This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.
Chargers did that too Manning
They wanted Rivers, they knew the Giants were hell bent on getting Eli.
Eli was coming to the Giants and Rivers was going to the chargers, Charges were just being greedy.
Regardless of what happens, No playoffs, playoffs, no superblow, superblow.... The 2011/2012 is one of my favorite Giants Teams of all time.
It is a glaring need now!
Ballard most likely will miss the season, injury in February?
Ricky Williams retired....Cue up Bob Marley,
"Excuse me while I light my spliff"...
by Great Gatsby on Feb 16, 2012 9:47 AM EST up reply actions
i saw some even today.....not this thread though.
LB is not priority for Giants as much as the OL is……
The only priority we have ESPECIALLY in rounds 1 and 2 are Good Players period
regardless of “Need” and thats been proven in the last few drafts. Now if the BPA falls within reasonable range of a percieved “need” then thats when you will see an OL or a TE.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
preach on brotha!!
Regardless of what happens, No playoffs, playoffs, no superblow, superblow.... The 2011/2012 is one of my favorite Giants Teams of all time.
i agree
we have goff and sintim coming back and i really think that LB is one of our strongest positions,we have bigger needs at RB and the OL.tight end end could be taken care of in the later rounds or in free agency
patriots---mark sanchez is the greatest--keep him
jets--we're getting peyton to kick ur butts
giants---dont worry little step-brother we'll protect you from them big bad pats
Sintim
is not going to be ready yet. His knee got wrecked. He might try to come back, but he is probably a year away from full recovery. Sad to say.
by Pink Flamingo on Feb 15, 2012 3:09 PM EST up reply actions
Not so convinced
Though we have the bodies, there are many LBs coming out that may be better than some of our present bodies.
by Exiled in Missouri on Feb 15, 2012 3:29 PM EST up reply actions
Our linebackers outside of Boley have sucked for quite a while
Thankfully, FA will be loaded with MLB, so targeting one early in the draft may not be necessary.
There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only BLUE WALLS.
The 2012 Mets: Fortune cookie says come back in 2015
I don't think Goff is bad.
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 15, 2012 4:12 PM EST up reply actions
He's okay, but he's also coming off a very serious injury
A guy like David Hawthorne is better and probably wouldn’t require a big contract.
There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only BLUE WALLS.
The 2012 Mets: Fortune cookie says come back in 2015
I'm just wary of FA because we'd have to overpay. Even for a guy like Hawthorne. On top of that
he’d have to familiarize himself with our scheme.
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 15, 2012 4:15 PM EST up reply actions
Seahawks played a 4-3
It really shouldn’t be much of an adjustment
There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only BLUE WALLS.
The 2012 Mets: Fortune cookie says come back in 2015
They didn't play a cover 2. They played a base 4-3.
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 15, 2012 4:19 PM EST up reply actions
I think there is promise with
JWill, and Herz and even Jones… I see no reason to go crazy with LBzzz . but then again, we have been having this conversation the better part of 6 months.
Regardless of what happens, No playoffs, playoffs, no superblow, superblow.... The 2011/2012 is one of my favorite Giants Teams of all time.
Free agent tight end
Aye, they might just decide to get someone in on a 1-year deal or as a stop-gap until Jake and Travis return.
Will need someone for the whole year who can catch the system fast
This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.
Will need someone for the whole year who can catch the system fast
This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.
We have Boley Jwill and Blackburn
with Herzlick and Pasinger coming off the bench we are fine at Backer. Goff we will see I’m not sold
Why is Tom Quinn still here? I loves me some Coach Clawfin. NY Football Giants 2012 Super FN Bowl Champions!!!!!!
Goff is the man.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
I know you were gonna say that. LOL!!!!
Why is Tom Quinn still here? I loves me some Coach Clawfin. NY Football Giants 2012 Super FN Bowl Champions!!!!!!
LOL...... HAHA
That predictable huh!
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
Yes indeed Blue!!!!
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
I just noticed
your signature’s first two lines proved prophetic
Self-praise is for losers. Be a winner. Stand for something. Always have class, and be humble.
-John Madden
"Luck means a lot in football. Not having a good quarterback is bad luck." -Don Shula
"You just don't throw on Chase Blackburn.''
Naming the names of players doesn't make them good
There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only BLUE WALLS.
The 2012 Mets: Fortune cookie says come back in 2015
Well if you don't know who they are and what they have done I suggest
You find out.
Why is Tom Quinn still here? I loves me some Coach Clawfin. NY Football Giants 2012 Super FN Bowl Champions!!!!!!
Boley is solid. J Will was meh. Blackburn is a special teamer
and Herzlich and Paysinger did virtually nothing.
There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only BLUE WALLS.
The 2012 Mets: Fortune cookie says come back in 2015
3 out of the 5 guys you mentioned were rookies
so they can’t get better after one year?
New York Giants 2011 Super Bowl Champions = FACT
The NFL will now FEAR THE LOWERCASE ny
by The Always Well Dressed... on Feb 15, 2012 4:43 PM EST up reply actions
Two were undrafted FAs and one was a 6th rounder
Hint: those guys don’t usually end up having long or productive careers.
There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only BLUE WALLS.
The 2012 Mets: Fortune cookie says come back in 2015
Is that so?
Because Ahmad Bradshaw, Victor Cruz, Jake Delhomme, Kurt Warner, Marques Colston, Adailus Thomas, Donald Driver, George Atkinson, Keenan McCardell, Dwight Clark, Rocky Blier, Terrell Davis, Bart Starr and Tom Brady to name a few.
I beg to differ.
Faith is a refusal to panic
BB1156, Bobbiblue: I respect you two.
by Commander Prime on Feb 15, 2012 7:21 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
For the few that have succeeded, countless more have failed
There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only BLUE WALLS.
The 2012 Mets: Fortune cookie says come back in 2015
thats true
I see your point
Win another SB...CHECK!
Prove all the naysayers wrong...CHECK!
Stock the team with a young, core group of studs...CHECK!
Damn it's good to be a fan of the NYG
Let's Go Giants!!!!
Blackburn is not a special teamer
The D became lock down with him in the middle. I’m to lazy to look it up but I bet you a dollar to donuts that the 1st 12 weeks without him the stats for this D were atrocious with him. Lock down. Herz and Paysinger were very good for 2 rooks with no training camp with limited action. Jwill is a stud and is the new Proto typical backer for this pass happy league. I think we will be fine
Why is Tom Quinn still here? I loves me some Coach Clawfin. NY Football Giants 2012 Super FN Bowl Champions!!!!!!
Do you have any evidence to back up your assertions?
There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only BLUE WALLS.
The 2012 Mets: Fortune cookie says come back in 2015
I’m to lazy to look it up but I bet you a dollar to donuts that the 1st 12 weeks without him the stats for this D were atrocious with him.
Why is Tom Quinn still here? I loves me some Coach Clawfin. NY Football Giants 2012 Super FN Bowl Champions!!!!!!
Please read my friend read
It gives you knowledge
Why is Tom Quinn still here? I loves me some Coach Clawfin. NY Football Giants 2012 Super FN Bowl Champions!!!!!!
Lock down with him
Ca-piece
Why is Tom Quinn still here? I loves me some Coach Clawfin. NY Football Giants 2012 Super FN Bowl Champions!!!!!!
Are you saying Blackburn is what turned the defense around?
There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only BLUE WALLS.
The 2012 Mets: Fortune cookie says come back in 2015
No Perry giving up on that soft umbrella cover 2 all game was the key
But Black burn was more then solid in the middle and brought real stability to the Mike position. without him we were floundering. he was huge for us down the stretch. you must know this
Why is Tom Quinn still here? I loves me some Coach Clawfin. NY Football Giants 2012 Super FN Bowl Champions!!!!!!
Do You???
Why is Tom Quinn still here? I loves me some Coach Clawfin. NY Football Giants 2012 Super FN Bowl Champions!!!!!!
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Why is Tom Quinn still here? I loves me some Coach Clawfin. NY Football Giants 2012 Super FN Bowl Champions!!!!!!
Whether to upgrade at linebacker
Although we’re not that great at linebacker, I’d be happy to keep what we’ve got, let the young guys develop for another year and build on the experience they got in 2011. Jones and Williams will have learned a lot from their first season. If we’re still mediocre a year from now, then fair enough.
Syler is less than Meh
Die hard Giants fan since wide Right! I was 6...
I'm down wit JPP
Yea you know me
Win Ugly.
-Eli Manning for MVP
Unless someone can actually provide some evidence
that our “youngins” were quality in 2011, I will not believe it, because all evidence points to the contrary.
You can’t just say someone’s good because “oh, he’s a mean S.O.B.” or “oh, he’s gritty.”.
There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only BLUE WALLS.
The 2012 Mets: Fortune cookie says come back in 2015
I'm having enough trouble converting my Wife's Honey-do-list...
Into a Mock This-is-what I did list..attempting to fake as much as possible between now and a week from Friday…She’ll inspect everything like Colonel Klink when she gets back..I put her list into my own private spreadsheet…
Task Complete Bullshit reason for not complete..
I may have to get a pair of Brown earth shoes like Ed has….
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Hahahaha!!!!
You know Nothing!!!!
Why is Tom Quinn still here? I loves me some Coach Clawfin. NY Football Giants 2012 Super FN Bowl Champions!!!!!!
Man...I brought the vacuum downstairs three days ago....It hasn't moved since..The boys..
Started using it to hang their jackets on..Nice vacuum too..I got woke up one night by one of those infomercials..It was David Oreck offering the Oreck challenge…I guess I was still shit-faced so I called the 1-800 number and told them: “I accept your challenge”…Now we have an Oreck vacuum to go along with this other thing we have…Everytime she goes off on a business trip something shows up around here…haha…Last night I got woke up with some clown selling a ‘Lint Lizard’…I’m like, what in the hell is that thing?…So I rubbed my eyes and it is supposed to allow you to attach this thing on your vacuum and clean all the lint out of the bowels of your clothes dryer..So I called and ordered it..and got a bonus two for 19.95…It sounds like a Dryer colonoscopy device…The vacuum cost me over 700 bucks..She was pissed..There ain’t no telling what I order between now and next Friday…
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
..Oh and The Oreck Challenge..came with a small hand/shoulder vacuum..for free..
The advertisment said it was powerful enough to pick up a bowling ball..So I went out and bought a bowling ball…Well it didn’t pick it up..So now I have a bowling ball in the garage..and I don’t even bowl…
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Hahahahahah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Why is Tom Quinn still here? I loves me some Coach Clawfin. NY Football Giants 2012 Super Bowl FN Champions!!!!!!
classic!
I got a GIF for that!
Giants by 17 over GB, take it to the bank!
Giants by 10 over SF, take it to the bank! Well, OK, by 3, but we are Super Bowl bound!!!!!!!
Giants will score 30 (correction 21 (damn FG's/failed 2 pt conversion)) or more points, NE 20 or less. Guess who wins? Take it to the bank!
by Fester McDougal on Feb 15, 2012 11:10 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
For those of you not on twitter, Mike Mayock, one of the most esteemed draftniks in the business, holding conference call
Mocking the Draft is tweeting some of his points. Here’s what he had to say:
Mayock says there are three CBs everyone thinks are 1st rounders
Mayock on Mercilus: I don’t think he’s stout at the point of attack. Borderline late one to mid two.
Mayock says Zeitler, Konz and DeCastro could be first round picks
Mayock says Detroit may target Janoris Jenkins, a boom or bust player. Says he’s a “logical” guy. Also could look at Ronnell Lewis.
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 15, 2012 3:23 PM EST reply actions
Mercilus being Whitney Mercilus, a defensive end, and therefore probably on our radar
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 15, 2012 3:23 PM EST up reply actions
DeCastro
I like. Won’t slip to 32, but hope he could be a “trade up” scenario if the scouting department really loves him.
by Pink Flamingo on Feb 15, 2012 3:42 PM EST up reply actions
A great NFL comparison to DeCastro is.....wait for it...Chris Snee.
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 15, 2012 3:44 PM EST up reply actions
'Cept
we were able to get Snee in the 2nd round. DeCastro might not make it through a half of a round.
by Pink Flamingo on Feb 15, 2012 4:22 PM EST up reply actions
Latest he goes is to Dallas at 14. Latest.
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 15, 2012 4:24 PM EST up reply actions
Dallas
may sign Carl Nicks from what I have been reading.
by Pink Flamingo on Feb 15, 2012 5:22 PM EST up reply actions
they'd be stupid to. They have SO many needs to fill....they'd empty their cap to sign him
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 15, 2012 5:29 PM EST up reply actions
Oh never underestimate the stupidity of JJ
This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.
we;re not trading up for a friggin guard.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
Extremely Rare Events
do occur my man.
Admittedly it’d be a huge outlier for the Giants to trade up for anybody in Round 1 – but in some cases, maybe it shouldn’t be. If they absolutely love a guy, and have 9 picks to wheel and deal with, it could make sense. OL or otherwise.
I have no horse in this race, so it’s all speculation and philosophizin’ at this point.
by Pink Flamingo on Feb 15, 2012 9:41 PM EST up reply actions
I dont think Allen makes it to our pick at all...... Coby Fleener will be there.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
I find that we both either agree strongly with each other or not at all, Gates.
I’ve been looking at more film, and I just don’t like Fleener.
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 15, 2012 3:30 PM EST up reply actions
LOL very true BBI
I really like Fleener, I think he has the frame to get bigger and become a better blocker and i know he is a very good receiver.
I also understand why you wouldnt like him especially if you look at the highlights available, it probably seems as if he is just a product of a very good system that faces some bad defenses.
To be honest i dont think we go TE at all, especially if the past serves as any indication of the future.
We probably go TE in the later rounds.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
I agree with you there lol
I focused mainly on ACC and SEC scouting this past year, so I’m a bit more familiar and probably, though I don’t like to admit it, have a small bias towards those prospects over those from the Big 10 or Pac 12
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 15, 2012 3:39 PM EST up reply actions
Im Bias towards the SEC too....especially when it comes to defensive players
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
Our drafts have been ACC and SEC heavy as well lol
With some Big 12 sprinkled in
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 15, 2012 3:43 PM EST up reply actions
Allen
Separation Skills 2 Footwork could be crisper on 90-degree breaks and doesn’t always separate from underneath man coverage but physical route runner that can box out defenders. Shows some savvy on downfield routes. Can tempo and set up breaks with change of speed on post and flag routes. Zone buster that settled into pockets.
Ball Skills 2 Lets ball get to frame on occasion but above average overall ball skills. Extended arms and snatched passes thrown above head. Appears to have big hands and can snag passes with one hand. Above average body control and can adjust to back shoulder passes. Held onto the ball after taking big hit. Tracked the deep ball well.
Big Play Ability 2 Can flex out and reached top-end speed quickly when didn’t get slowed down at the line of scrimmage. Fast enough to work the seam and exploit downfield pockets in zone looks. Not going to make many defenders miss but fast enough to rip of chunk of yards when gets room to work after the catch.
Competitiveness 2 Drives legs and draggs defenders for additional yards after catch. Not afraid to work the middle of the field. Would like to see more of a mean streak though played with an edge at times but willing and spirited blocker.
Blocking 3 A lot to like about upside but an average overall blocker at this point. Can seal the front side and cut off backside. Adequate awareness in blitz pick up when asked to help out in pass protection though could sink and anchor better. Sound hand placement and fought to sustain in-line blocks but leaned into defenders instead of rolling hips and slipped off some blocks. Can cover up linebackers and took adequate angles but can be step late locating second level assignments.
Strikeouts are boring- Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.
If I may ask, who's scouting report is this?
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 15, 2012 3:33 PM EST up reply actions
I'm afraid to say.
Strikeouts are boring- Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.
by CasanovaWong on Feb 15, 2012 3:45 PM EST up reply actions
why? lol
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 15, 2012 3:45 PM EST up reply actions
The Boy Scouts of America...
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
LOL
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 15, 2012 3:50 PM EST up reply actions
LMAO
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
Seems pretty accurate
He also has gotten a big boost from the good TE play of those boys in NE, now everyone is on the hunt for that athletic TE but to be honest, those guys flop more than they produce.
It has to be the right system.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
None of the TE's picked in the 1st or early-mid 2nd rounds of the draft recently
Have been busts. Obviously you only mentioned “athletic TE’s” but I wouldn’t say Dwayne Allen’s considered a pure athlete.
2010: Jermaine Gresham, Gronk, Ed Dickson
2009: Brandon Pettigrew
2008: Dustin Keller, John Carlson, Fred Davis
2007: Greg Olson, Zach Miller
2006: Vernon Davis, Marcedes Lewis
That’s a pretty good track record, IMO.
GIANTS! SB46 CHAMPS!
Carlson
What’s his deal, BTW? He’s a free agent, isn’t he? Recovered from injury?
by Pink Flamingo on Feb 15, 2012 5:42 PM EST up reply actions
Who will replace Jaworski on MNF?
Ochocinco could have saved a ton of money if he didn't buy his team mates "Beats by Dre" because they all ended up getting "Beat by Giants"...FOR FREE!!
A jar of toothpicks
Why is Tom Quinn still here? I loves me some Coach Clawfin. NY Football Giants 2012 Super FN Bowl Champions!!!!!!
Hahahaha!!!!
‘Ol Jaws got himself eaten alive by Chuckie..He just sat around looking like a dope on MNF..I wonder what they’ll do with that wore out Ex-Sandhill Crane on ESPN now…Maybe send him out counting Turtle nests…
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
One turtle nest ..,2 turtle nests...3 turtle nests...4 turtle nests... Hahahahahahah!!!!!!!
Why is Tom Quinn still here? I loves me some Coach Clawfin. NY Football Giants 2012 Super FN Bowl Champions!!!!!!
Hahaha!!!!!...
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
boom...count it
Ochocinco could have saved a ton of money if he didn't buy his team mates "Beats by Dre" because they all ended up getting "Beat by Giants"...FOR FREE!!
no one. Just a two man crew
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 15, 2012 3:48 PM EST up reply actions
Thank Jesus...I was waiting for the "Tiki Joins MNF" headline...
Ochocinco could have saved a ton of money if he didn't buy his team mates "Beats by Dre" because they all ended up getting "Beat by Giants"...FOR FREE!!
In all honesty, that would present me with all sorts of hilarity
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 15, 2012 4:05 PM EST up reply actions
lol, true
New York Giants 2011 Super Bowl Champions = FACT
The NFL will now FEAR THE LOWERCASE ny
by The Always Well Dressed... on Feb 15, 2012 4:13 PM EST up reply actions
Can you just imagine the fun we'd have with that????
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
One of the best threads during the offseason last year
was the one about Tiki coming back from retirement. Every MNF game would be like that
New York Giants 2011 Super Bowl Champions = FACT
The NFL will now FEAR THE LOWERCASE ny
by The Always Well Dressed... on Feb 15, 2012 4:18 PM EST up reply actions
That was a great tread!!
Why is Tom Quinn still here? I loves me some Coach Clawfin. NY Football Giants 2012 Super FN Bowl Champions!!!!!!
Tiki is the MNF
As in Most Not-wanted Fu*ker ( Pardon my french)
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
Maybe an Hors d'oeuvre tray.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
Pardon my french again.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
a monkey, no scratch that
a SPIDER monkey
Die hard Giants fan since wide Right! I was 6...
I'm down wit JPP
Yea you know me
Win Ugly.
-Eli Manning for MVP
i think the name has been mentioned since Jaworski has been praising the guy. i dont remember the name and dont want to go and look it up lol
This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.
More Mayock
MM on Jeffery: He’s not in my top four. There’s all those rumors he put weight on. If his agent is smart, he’ll come in at 220.
Mayock says what big WRs like Jeffery, Sanu and Fuller run will be important.
Big and fast is good. Big and slow is bad. If runs well, no one is going to say a word. At combine or pro day, he has to run well.
Mayock has a 1st RD grade on Rueben Randle.
Mayock says he doesn’t have a 1st round tight end.
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 15, 2012 3:51 PM EST reply actions
I agree on the TE remark
But one or two will be drafted in round 1 and though i dont think either TE belongs in round one, i do think they are both high 2’s and that sometimes that is the same as a low 1 depending on when you draft.
Last year there were really only two QB’s that were first round worthy and one of them went in the second round lol.
That just shows that boards differ drastically from team to team.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
I have Allen as 22 on my big board. Fleener I have in the mid 40's.
I see Allen as a Brandon Pettigrew clone, so I suppose I disagree with Mayock there. I do agree with his sentiment on the WRs.
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 15, 2012 4:05 PM EST up reply actions
At the spot we're picking..32...
My Board is a Dart Board..in an Irish Bar..with plenty of pitchers of beer involved…
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
In an Irish bar, got to go Guiness
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 15, 2012 4:10 PM EST up reply actions
Haha...yep!!!
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Beer!!! Beer!!!! Beer!!!! Beer!!!! Beer!!!! Beer!!!! Beer!!!!
Why is Tom Quinn still here? I loves me some Coach Clawfin. NY Football Giants 2012 Super FN Bowl Champions!!!!!!
Hahahahaha!!!!....
For the 32nd pick in the draft the New York Giants pick …I’ll have a Beer!!!(?!?)…Man folks that bobbiblue really is an off the wall GM….
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
We might not be the best in the leauge but we will be the drunkest!!
Why is Tom Quinn still here? I loves me some Coach Clawfin. NY Football Giants 2012 Super Bowl FN Champions!!!!!!
Hell yes..you can't survive a Giants season without being half in the bag!!..LOL
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
half in the bag is not 'ALL IN'
We have to be full in the bag to be “All In”
Why is Tom Quinn still here? I loves me some Coach Clawfin. NY Football Giants 2012 Super Bowl FN Champions!!!!!!
If you go back, is Brandon Pettigrew really worth the first pick??
Before you answer, remeber where gronk and Hernandez were drafted.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
Brandon Pettigrew the prospect was worth it. I'm not sure if the player himself was.
Allen was used more as an inline blocker in his career until Clemson realized they had a playmaker on their hands. He can block better than Pettigrew can, and I’ve already gushed about his body control and route running.
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 15, 2012 4:12 PM EST up reply actions
Fair enough
I got them both in the 30’s on my big board but it all depends on the scheme they go to…….see Beckum….. I think Fleener is more Dallas Clark and Allen is more Vernon Davis, those are very very loose comparisons by the way, i just meant as far as their game goes.
I cant knock your evaluation though.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
As far as talent evaluation goes, its real subjective, so we're bound to have
differences in our boards. As long as you have film and reasoning to back it up, its all good. And you’ve backed up all your stuff so far, so its all good.
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 15, 2012 4:20 PM EST up reply actions
He also Dominates his spot on the field
every time I see a guy draped all over him, he seems to always catch the ball.
Regardless of what happens, No playoffs, playoffs, no superblow, superblow.... The 2011/2012 is one of my favorite Giants Teams of all time.
Grab Dwayne Allen!
I don’t know anything about this guy buy I like what I hear and he looks really big in his pics.
TE and Oline are bigger needs than LB. I’d like more attention spent on the offense in general so we can get maximum value out of Eli’s prime years.
by NotThatChrisRusso on Feb 15, 2012 4:09 PM EST via mobile reply actions
The defense gave up 6000 yards and over 400 points this season
Can’t just gloss over that.
There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only BLUE WALLS.
The 2012 Mets: Fortune cookie says come back in 2015
we were hemorraging CBs and had to start rookies at LB.
Not to mention we didn’t have Osi for half the year and had Tuck playing at 25%
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 15, 2012 4:16 PM EST up reply actions
Which defense?
The one before week 12 or after?….they were two very different defenses.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
Yes!!! Sir!!!
Why is Tom Quinn still here? I loves me some Coach Clawfin. NY Football Giants 2012 Super FN Bowl Champions!!!!!!
Add back Goff, TT, Austin, Sintim + full year of Prince
Assuming we keep them all. That’s like a whole defensive draft class coming in.
Blue is the color of melancholy and honesty
Green is the color of inexperience, envy and nausea.
Goff and TT are coming off serious injuries, and Sintim has never done anything
There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only BLUE WALLS.
The 2012 Mets: Fortune cookie says come back in 2015
Goff and TT were injured before the season, they are fine
Sintim was on his way, he was attacking the LOS with the best of them before he got hurt and even TC said the kid worked as hard as anyone and was poised to show why he was a 2nd rounder this year.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
Sintim's Injury
was way more serious than Goff’s or TT’s. I’d look for him to resurface in 2013 with a 3-4 team that can utilize his talents. Not counting on him this year at all.
by Pink Flamingo on Feb 15, 2012 4:25 PM EST up reply actions
i hope Sintim recovers and can contribute for us soonest.
This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.
Well if we let them go, I might agree with you
We’ll need a CB and an LB somewhere, and you know we’ll take a DL or two, but will they be BPA at 32?
Blue is the color of melancholy and honesty
Green is the color of inexperience, envy and nausea.
Chad Jones and or Tyler MFIN Sash in the Grant role will be a good thing as well.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
I haven't heard much on Chad Jones..but I'm very hopeful for the guy...
I heard he was recovering very well..and is just as fast as he was when they drafted him..but that was awhile back…
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
80%
He recently did a TV interview in NOLA where he said he is currently at 80%, and intends to participate in all the Giants’ offseason activities. He doesn’t expect to be 100% by then, but he is rapidly improving. He might be at close to 100% physically by the time the season starts.
Remember when he ran a 4.84 40 last year? He should have all of his straight line speed back, not sure how he’ll be cutting.
Really rooting for the kid, though. Between him and Herzlich, the Giants will have some real heart stories on their team.
by Pink Flamingo on Feb 15, 2012 4:27 PM EST up reply actions
The Super Bowl Trophy did..It glossed over everything...
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
+46
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Feb 15, 2012 4:18 PM EST up reply actions
4 sure
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
I think the Saints game is the only loss I’d blame on the defense.
by NotThatChrisRusso on Feb 15, 2012 4:36 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
1st Packer game?
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Feb 15, 2012 4:39 PM EST up reply actions
Oh yeah you’re right, the Packers game and the Seahawks game too can be blamed on the defense.
by NotThatChrisRusso on Feb 15, 2012 4:42 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
yeah true
the other L’s were times the offense should of scored much more (Skins twice and the second Eagle game). The first 49er game was a game against a great defense but came close in the end.
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Feb 15, 2012 4:45 PM EST up reply actions
That is where a good runnings game comes handy
This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.
The defense was terrible due to injuries
We need to get some more players on offense. An upgrade on the o’line and at TE and Eli will throw 40+ tds!
by Giant Ken on Feb 15, 2012 4:23 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I hope TT is back and we sign him
I think he’s awesome! Throw in Prince with a year and a camp under his belt, and I think our secondary will be set.
by Giant Ken on Feb 15, 2012 4:25 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
It will depend on his recover and it seems it takes the players two years to get full force
This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.
I totally agree. I think if they can somehow keep Osi happy the defense will be good enough.
by NotThatChrisRusso on Feb 15, 2012 4:30 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 15, 2012 4:26 PM EST reply actions
It's amazing he's still attempting to play football
Hopefully he makes some kind of impact in 2012.
There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only BLUE WALLS.
The 2012 Mets: Fortune cookie says come back in 2015
I wish the kid the best
I hope he plays, but glad he’s in one piece and can live his life!
by Giant Ken on Feb 15, 2012 4:28 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
This kid and Herz have the heart of Champions
I know that they both will succeed
Why is Tom Quinn still here? I loves me some Coach Clawfin. NY Football Giants 2012 Super FN Bowl Champions!!!!!!
Thanks..sounds like he may be our next Herzlich..Against all odds..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Posted
this above for Bobbi, but here it is again. Chad Jones on TV the other day:
http://www.wwltv.com/sports/Chad-Jones-says-hes-80-back-to-normal-138961839.html
by Pink Flamingo on Feb 15, 2012 4:32 PM EST up reply actions
Thanks Pink..I missed your earlier post..
But this is very encouraging…
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
BSPN fires Jaws from MNF
Dunno if you guys covered this earlier, but my first reaction was that they clearly want less football on MNF.
Tirico and Gruden. Oy!
Blue is the color of melancholy and honesty
Green is the color of inexperience, envy and nausea.
This makes no sense to me. I thought Jaws was very knowledgable.
by NotThatChrisRusso on Feb 15, 2012 4:31 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
yet annoying as all hell
Die hard Giants fan since wide Right! I was 6...
I'm down wit JPP
Yea you know me
Win Ugly.
-Eli Manning for MVP
Crazy! Did something happen?
Jaws is awesome, he actually talks real football, while gruden acts like a 12 year old cheerleader!
by Giant Ken on Feb 15, 2012 4:36 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
well, they didn't fire him
he’s still going to be on the non-MNF pre and post game sets… Here’s more if you’re curious
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/gameon/post/2012/02/ron-jaworski-off-espns-monday-night-football/1#.Tzwne7TQgaQ
Thanks for this..In all honesty..
I think he is going back where he belongs..He does his homework and he really knows his football..Probably one of the most studious of analysts..So, I wish him well..He kind of got upstaged by Gruden..Who in my opinion is a coach who inherited a team..but he’s really a dope..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Hey, no "tuck rule" and he might have won one with Oakland.
Ochocinco could have saved a ton of money if he didn't buy his team mates "Beats by Dre" because they all ended up getting "Beat by Giants"...FOR FREE!!
He suffered the Al Davis Rule..haha
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Off topic
but finally got my Superbowl 46 gear. The hoodie is NICE.
Full picture of the team on front, I like the design much better than the superbowl 42 hoodie
Self-praise is for losers. Be a winner. Stand for something. Always have class, and be humble.
-John Madden
"Luck means a lot in football. Not having a good quarterback is bad luck." -Don Shula
"You just don't throw on Chase Blackburn.''
I was never a fan of the colors for SB42
Ochocinco could have saved a ton of money if he didn't buy his team mates "Beats by Dre" because they all ended up getting "Beat by Giants"...FOR FREE!!
Guess whose back..back again!
Blue Ivy? I don't even know what that means?
No one knows what it means, but its provocative, it gets the people going!
by BigBlueWreckingYou on Feb 15, 2012 4:55 PM EST reply actions
wow I just read he was not clear yet
so happy for this guy
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Feb 15, 2012 5:05 PM EST up reply actions
HOLY SHIT
Amazing…what a road this kid traveled. Good for him…
Plus, good for us…this is like an early draft pick!
Ochocinco could have saved a ton of money if he didn't buy his team mates "Beats by Dre" because they all ended up getting "Beat by Giants"...FOR FREE!!
Yeah he says he's 80%..truly amazing..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
mAN gOOD FOR HIM!!!
Heart of a Lion!!
Why is Tom Quinn still here? I loves me some Coach Clawfin. NY Football Giants 2012 Super FN Bowl Champions!!!!!!
Heh
Chad Jones must be on everybody’s mind today.
Here’s the video link again from an interview he did the other day:
http://www.wwltv.com/sports/Chad-Jones-says-hes-80-back-to-normal-138961839.html
by Pink Flamingo on Feb 15, 2012 5:24 PM EST up reply actions
I think I just might get his jersey next year
if he can make the team!
Regardless of what happens, No playoffs, playoffs, no superblow, superblow.... The 2011/2012 is one of my favorite Giants Teams of all time.
Since when did the fans of teams that win the Super Bowl
not have good memories?
Nets Mets Giants All day Every day.
Beware the Lopez
NY Giants Tribute
I Don't knowI can't remember.
Why is Tom Quinn still here? I loves me some Coach Clawfin. NY Football Giants 2012 Super Bowl FN Champions!!!!!!
Kinda worries me
that so many are starting to mock Allen to the Giants….
Quick everyone, start talking about Hightower again!
No 9-7 team had ever won the Super Bowl...until 2011.
No defense ranked as bad as 27th in the regular season had ever won the Super Bowl...until 2011.
No team with the league's worst rushing offense in the regular season had ever won the Super Bowl...until 2011.
No QB had ever thrown for over 4,900 yards and won the Super Bowl...until 2011.
In short: No QB has ever carried his team to a Super Bowl win the way Eli Manning did in 2011. There, I said it.
Your sig is awesome
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 15, 2012 7:02 PM EST up reply actions
I actually just changed it to that
Wanted to see how it looked. :-)
No 9-7 team had ever won the Super Bowl...until 2011.
No defense ranked as bad as 27th in the regular season had ever won the Super Bowl...until 2011.
No team with the league's worst rushing offense in the regular season had ever won the Super Bowl...until 2011.
No QB had ever thrown for over 4,900 yards and won the Super Bowl...until 2011.
In short: No QB has ever carried his team to a Super Bowl win the way Eli Manning did in 2011. There, I said it.
It's a winner
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 15, 2012 7:33 PM EST up reply actions
agreed
New York Giants 2011 Super Bowl Champions = FACT
The NFL will now FEAR THE LOWERCASE ny
by The Always Well Dressed... on Feb 15, 2012 7:38 PM EST up reply actions
Indeed.
Makes you think about what Eli really has achieved this season
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 15, 2012 7:40 PM EST up reply actions
A lot and his 2nd SB and 2nd SB MVP and all those teams and NFL records he has set. Incredible.
This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.
It's really amazing
when you think about it.
And although he’s been getting plenty of praise lately, I still feel like some of it (from certain outlets) isn’t 100% genuine. I don’t know, maybe I’m still adjusting to hearing Eli actually get credit for his team’s success for once.
And to think some still can’t give him the credit he deserves….Not just places like BGN or other rival fan boards, but even more mainstream places.
Oh well. If they can’t see it now, they never will.
No 9-7 team had ever won the Super Bowl...until 2011.
No defense ranked as bad as 27th in the regular season had ever won the Super Bowl...until 2011.
No team with the league's worst rushing offense in the regular season had ever won the Super Bowl...until 2011.
No QB had ever thrown for over 4,900 yards and won the Super Bowl...until 2011.
In short: No QB has ever carried his team to a Super Bowl win the way Eli Manning did in 2011. There, I said it.
Honestly, at this point, if people don't give him credit...its easier to take because I KNOW they're delusional
as opposed to before when in the very back of my head, I’d have the really small doubt about if it was just an overdose of blue kool aid by me
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 15, 2012 7:42 PM EST up reply actions
Yep
In 2007, his playoff numbers were very nice overall, but there could still be made a point that it was more efficiency than anything. He only threw like 185 yards in TB. He only attempted 16 passes (I think) in Dallas. He didn’t throw any TDs in GB.
This year, they can’t even try to argue that. The only thing they could see is that he didn’t HAVE to play as well as he did, since the defense only gave up more than 17 points once in their last six games. But that’s just the last excuse for someone who can’t let go of their preconceived ideas about Eli, and a terrible one at that, because it doesn’t at all take away from what Eli actually did, which was to make sure the defense didn’t have to worry about giving up some points.
No 9-7 team had ever won the Super Bowl...until 2011.
No defense ranked as bad as 27th in the regular season had ever won the Super Bowl...until 2011.
No team with the league's worst rushing offense in the regular season had ever won the Super Bowl...until 2011.
No QB had ever thrown for over 4,900 yards and won the Super Bowl...until 2011.
In short: No QB has ever carried his team to a Super Bowl win the way Eli Manning did in 2011. There, I said it.
Yessir
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 15, 2012 7:52 PM EST up reply actions
your right
the praise he is getting from certain places… cough ESPN cough… does not seem like they really mean it. Its almost like they want to say “Look we told you so, we were always right about him” if he has a bad game next year.
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Feb 15, 2012 7:44 PM EST up reply actions
Take the years Rivers had this season...
If Eli plays like that next year it will erase everything he has done so far in his career. Rivers played like shit and was still respected by most analysts. Eli won’t have that luxury…he needs to play at this level or better for the rest of his career or the haters will tear him apart.
Ochocinco could have saved a ton of money if he didn't buy his team mates "Beats by Dre" because they all ended up getting "Beat by Giants"...FOR FREE!!
I sound like I am chronically concussed...
stupid words
Ochocinco could have saved a ton of money if he didn't buy his team mates "Beats by Dre" because they all ended up getting "Beat by Giants"...FOR FREE!!
And I used blasphemous
because I gotta stuck up for Romo a little and say the criticism of him is mostly ridiculous. He, like Rivers, has one of the best all-time regular season QB ratings. He, like Rivers, has done nothing in the playoffs. You can throw Matt Ryan in there too with Rivers.
But Romo is the only one who gets killed for it.
No 9-7 team had ever won the Super Bowl...until 2011.
No defense ranked as bad as 27th in the regular season had ever won the Super Bowl...until 2011.
No team with the league's worst rushing offense in the regular season had ever won the Super Bowl...until 2011.
No QB had ever thrown for over 4,900 yards and won the Super Bowl...until 2011.
In short: No QB has ever carried his team to a Super Bowl win the way Eli Manning did in 2011. There, I said it.
Wow...reply fail
No 9-7 team had ever won the Super Bowl...until 2011.
No defense ranked as bad as 27th in the regular season had ever won the Super Bowl...until 2011.
No team with the league's worst rushing offense in the regular season had ever won the Super Bowl...until 2011.
No QB had ever thrown for over 4,900 yards and won the Super Bowl...until 2011.
In short: No QB has ever carried his team to a Super Bowl win the way Eli Manning did in 2011. There, I said it.
This is gonna sound blasphemous
But for all the criticism a guy like Romo gets (and formerly Eli), others like Rivers and Ryan go unscathed.
I love listening to analysts who trip all over themselves to say that SD is one of the most talented teams in football, yet when the subject of “Why does Rivers still not have a ring when Eli and Ben have two?” comes up, they talk about how Rivers doesn’t have the teams that those two have.
Never mind the fact that Rivers has more INTs than TDs in the postseason….Gotta love the double standards.
No 9-7 team had ever won the Super Bowl...until 2011.
No defense ranked as bad as 27th in the regular season had ever won the Super Bowl...until 2011.
No team with the league's worst rushing offense in the regular season had ever won the Super Bowl...until 2011.
No QB had ever thrown for over 4,900 yards and won the Super Bowl...until 2011.
In short: No QB has ever carried his team to a Super Bowl win the way Eli Manning did in 2011. There, I said it.
You are right...
I think Romo only gets hammered so much because it’s the Cowboys. He wasn’t what was wrong with the Cowboys last season.
Ochocinco could have saved a ton of money if he didn't buy his team mates "Beats by Dre" because they all ended up getting "Beat by Giants"...FOR FREE!!
I agree
Romo is a good QB and gets killed for not winning big games yet what has Rivers or Ryan done is big games and postseason?
I love when people say “If the Giants kept Rivers, they would have 3 or 4 SBs by now”… yeah thats a big no on that one
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Feb 15, 2012 8:29 PM EST up reply actions
Let me set you guys straight
We are in the NFC East Tony Romo is in the NFC least! No kind words for the choke artist extraordinaire. His boss is a Douche Canoe. He is a great golfer and a nice girl er I meant guy. I say no to Tony Romo and his team!!! No!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Why is Tom Quinn still here? I loves me some Coach Clawfin. NY Football Giants 2012 Super Bowl FN Champions!!!!!!
can't disagree with any of this
New York Giants 2011 Super Bowl Champions = FACT
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Feb 15, 2012 9:09 PM EST up reply actions
Anchors Away!!!
Ochocinco could have saved a ton of money if he didn't buy his team mates "Beats by Dre" because they all ended up getting "Beat by Giants"...FOR FREE!!
Locked-on..Fox 1...Splash one...
The rest are bugging out !!
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Dwayne Allen is too mainstream for some people apparently....
World Series attitude, champagne bottle life, nothing every changes so tonight is like tomorrow night.
If this was a response to my comment
I was joking. I love Allen and hope the Giants are able to draft him. I just feel like every year, when one prospect always gets “mocked” to us, that player is never actually drafted by the Giants.
No 9-7 team had ever won the Super Bowl...until 2011.
No defense ranked as bad as 27th in the regular season had ever won the Super Bowl...until 2011.
No team with the league's worst rushing offense in the regular season had ever won the Super Bowl...until 2011.
No QB had ever thrown for over 4,900 yards and won the Super Bowl...until 2011.
In short: No QB has ever carried his team to a Super Bowl win the way Eli Manning did in 2011. There, I said it.
other news
Apparently the Bucs are talking to Bill Sheridan…
Regardless of what happens, No playoffs, playoffs, no superblow, superblow.... The 2011/2012 is one of my favorite Giants Teams of all time.
all the good they did with Mike Sullivan is instantly reversed
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 15, 2012 7:24 PM EST up reply actions
I'd rather trade out of the first round
Team Ghost: Manningham, Sintim, Beckum, Barden, JPP, Anvil, Ross
Don't like Allen? Por que?
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 15, 2012 7:53 PM EST up reply actions
I want a bigger, more athletic TE at #32
If Mike Adams or Cordy Glenn is there, then I’d rather take them.
Team Ghost: Manningham, Sintim, Beckum, Barden, JPP, Anvil, Ross
I agree with Adams or Glenn.
Allen is 6’4 255 and pretty athletic. If you are looking for this year’s Jimmy Graham, it’d probably be Ladarius Green. 6’6 240 and uberathletic. Though he’d probably have to get coached up on blocking.
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 15, 2012 8:38 PM EST up reply actions
This is why
I’d be stunned if we took Green at any point in this draft.
Allen theoretically appeals more to this team because he’s already pretty well-developed as a blocker, in addition to having the size and athleticism the Giants covet for just about any position in the draft.
No 9-7 team had ever won the Super Bowl...until 2011.
No defense ranked as bad as 27th in the regular season had ever won the Super Bowl...until 2011.
No team with the league's worst rushing offense in the regular season had ever won the Super Bowl...until 2011.
No QB had ever thrown for over 4,900 yards and won the Super Bowl...until 2011.
In short: No QB has ever carried his team to a Super Bowl win the way Eli Manning did in 2011. There, I said it.
get a couple
extra picks
patriots---mark sanchez is the greatest--keep him
jets--we're getting peyton to kick ur butts
giants---dont worry little step-brother we'll protect you from them big bad pats
I wish I could remember which clown tried to tell me Nnamdi was one of the best tacklers in the NFL
Asomugha played 890 snaps and missed 12 of his 52 tackle attempts in 2011, ranking him 100th out of 101 cornerbacks. He missed a tackle every 4.3 attempts, a number “bested” only by the Redskins’ Kevin Barnes (3.9).
Rogers-Cromartie wasn’t much better, ranking 98th on the list. He had seven misses in 32 attempts, missing a tackle every 4.6 attempts. Even Samuel could be found at the bottom of this list, ranking 91st with a 5.3 tackle efficiency.
Making matters worse, the Eagles allowed Dimitri Patterson — ranked as the fourth-best tackler on this list — to leave for the Browns after the 2010 season. Patterson played two years in Philadelphia, starting nine games in 2010.
Plenty of factors went into the failure of the “Dream Team,” but the collective whiffing of its vaunted secondary obviously played a role.
Ochocinco could have saved a ton of money if he didn't buy his team mates "Beats by Dre" because they all ended up getting "Beat by Giants"...FOR FREE!!
Must have been me.
I am Torry.
Why is Tom Quinn still here? I loves me some Coach Clawfin. NY Football Giants 2012 Super Bowl FN Champions!!!!!!
Couldn't have been you...
I am Legend.
Ochocinco could have saved a ton of money if he didn't buy his team mates "Beats by Dre" because they all ended up getting "Beat by Giants"...FOR FREE!!
your both wrong...
I am Spartacus
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Feb 15, 2012 9:10 PM EST up reply actions
Hahahah!!!!!!!!!!!
Good show on starz. Mad sex and violence. Great just great
Why is Tom Quinn still here? I loves me some Coach Clawfin. NY Football Giants 2012 Super Bowl FN Champions!!!!!!
That show is awesome!!
It’s just awesome. Sad that original Spartacus died.
Ochocinco could have saved a ton of money if he didn't buy his team mates "Beats by Dre" because they all ended up getting "Beat by Giants"...FOR FREE!!
unbelievably sad
Not sure I’ve warmed up to the new one yet.
Win another SB...CHECK!
Prove all the naysayers wrong...CHECK!
Stock the team with a young, core group of studs...CHECK!
Damn it's good to be a fan of the NYG
Let's Go Giants!!!!
Poll on NFL.com...Cruz isn't even an option.
What’s the best NFL comparison for Jeremy Lin?
Kurt Warner
Arian Foster
Tim Tebow
Vince Papale
Ochocinco could have saved a ton of money if he didn't buy his team mates "Beats by Dre" because they all ended up getting "Beat by Giants"...FOR FREE!!
Vince Papale?
I guess if you have a disney movie made about you, you are already awesome
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Feb 15, 2012 9:55 PM EST up reply actions
Why does there always have to be a comparison to someone else?
There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only BLUE WALLS.
The 2012 Mets: Fortune cookie says come back in 2015
We wont get this guy
Eagles or Redskins will claim they needed a TE more than anything else & pick him just to spite us
by Nicks4Six on Feb 15, 2012 10:41 PM EST via mobile reply actions
sigh
Since when does the NFL Network talk about NBA players?
by Worl'Boss on Feb 15, 2012 11:10 PM EST via mobile reply actions
your needs, your needs, how about my needs?!
The giants had success without drafting based on needs per se in the first round. I mean, if there is TE worth a first round or a second round pick, why force him up? I’m pretty sure the pick could be spent on a lot of other positions with better players and the Giants will draft or sign a TE when the price is right.
On one hand t’d be nice to get the top TE with the 32nd pick, but there could be some teams wanting to copy the success teams have had with young athletic TE’s (Graham, Gronk, etc). If so he won’t last. There are usually some very athletic TE’s available in rounds 2-4 though.
yes BPA has worked very well for us'
This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.
JR and company, Might wait with an tight end
there are 3 Tes with 1-2 round value. They might just wait and pick an tight end in the 2nd round and pick the 3rd TE that drops.
Oak Ridge Boys
I didn’t know the lead singer for the Oak Ridges Boys went back to college and played football! Oh wait, that’s DUANE Allen……….
by jfostersbnation on Feb 16, 2012 7:42 AM EST reply actions
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