2012 NFL Draft Prospect Profiles: Mark Barron, S, Alabama
by Ed Valentine on Feb 14, 2012 10:00 AM EST
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PrintThe last time the New York Giants won the Super Bowl they entered the NFL Draft the following April in need of an upgrade at the safety position, and with one logical target. That player, Kenny Phillips, ended up being available and the Giants happily snapped him up.
This year, as the 2012 NFL Draft approaches, safety could again be on the team's list of positions it would like to shore up. Which brings us to the subject of today's 2012 NFL Draft Prospect Profile -- Alabama safety Mark Barron.
We know defensive coordinator Perry Fewell and the Giants have had great success the past two seasons with the three-safety alignment. One of those three safeties, Deon Grant, is a veteran who is nearing the end of the line. His lack of speed was exposed at times in 2011, and right now it seems unlikely he would return. Tyler Sash was drafted in the sixth round a year ago, but speed is also an issue for him. He seems destined to be a special teams player. Chad Jones? A wonderful story and you have to root for him. Certainly, though, you can't plan on him being a viable player. Anything he ever contributes on the field is purely a bonus at this point.
In its most recent mock, Draft Tek has Barron going to the Giants with the 32nd pick. Draft Tek Giants analyst Bill Bliss is excited by the site's computer simulation given Barron to the Giants, writing "Barron is our top-ranked safety, and for good reason: he's a hard hitter who plays the run well and possesses superb ball skills. He's got the long arms that [Jerry] Reese likes and has played a major role in both of Bama's recent National Championships."
Mocking The Draft considers Barron "a downhill box safety with some pop in his game." Yet, MTD's review of Barron was written last May, so does not take the 2011 season into account.
The National Football Post has the 6-foot-2, 218-pound All American as its 15th-ranked overall prospect and the top safety on the board.
"Has the makings of a heck of a special teams player who can also attack downhill vs. the run game, play inside the box and drive on the football in front of him in the pass game," writes the NFP's West Bunting. "Isn't going to be a major threat turning and tracking the football, but his improved instincts makes me think he can start in the league early on." [Full NFP Scouting Report]
Considering all of the uncanny similarities between the Giants' Super Bowl victories in 2008 and 2012, could it really be a stunner if Barron is among the players Reese has to choose from when the Giants' turn comes this April?
The Mark Barron File
Height: 6-foot-2
Weight: 218 pounds
2011 Consensus All-American
12 career interceptions
Mark Barron Highlights (via AlabamaFootballFan3)
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Id rather try and fill a need
but if a top 20 player falls to us at 32, gotta take him
May Doug Marrone bless you and keep you.
Where
The fuck do you get off using that kind of language around here?
JR hates the ‘N’ word.
by Raptor22 on Feb 14, 2012 10:30 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
hahah
True, but if we go the entire draft without taking a TE, Im going to smash my TV.
May Doug Marrone bless you and keep you.
Well get your smashing arm ready
BPA all day
"Tom Coughlins hugging Flava Flav, What in the world is happening here!"
-Rich Eisen
I'd say you might want to listen on radio
Eli is our King!
Ugh
why you using the “N” word… your kind is not welcome here! lol
Regardless of what happens, No playoffs, playoffs, no superblow, superblow.... The 2011/2012 is one of my favorite Giants Teams of all time.
Safety is a need
Safety is a need. Rolle is going to make an exorbitant amount of money after this year Phillips will be a free agent, and Deon Grant is going to retire soon I’d imagine.
Fewell has used a lot of 3 safety sets here and in Buffalo, it’s a staple of his defense.
The depth at safety is awful.
I think Safety is the biggest, under-publicized need for the Giants.
Imagine if Roll or Philips got hurt during season it could be a C.C. Brown kind of situation again
"I have never in my life learned anything from any man who agreed with me." Dudley Field Malone
Editor at nflmocks.com, contributor a newyork.sbnation.com
by Jesse Bartolis on Feb 14, 2012 11:38 AM EST up reply actions
I imagine this was Grants last year
Thinking of Safeties..
At least for next year only (this is assuming TT and Ross both get resigned (yes I know what happens when one assumes))
Rolle, KP, TT (I think this is where he is going), and Sash… Not to mention Chad Jones, who apparently has most of his speed back.
This is not to mention the back-up Corners that could play safety- Martin, Weatherspoon (I think I spelled it right), Tryon and the kid we have playing punt returner… My god, my memory is awful today.
Regardless of what happens, No playoffs, playoffs, no superblow, superblow.... The 2011/2012 is one of my favorite Giants Teams of all time.
Right. Of those Maybe Sash
Of those players maybe Sash can actually play safety, but that remains to be seen.
I don’t want to see any converted cornerbacks learning the position on the fly due to injury
"I have never in my life learned anything from any man who agreed with me." Dudley Field Malone
Editor at nflmocks.com, contributor a newyork.sbnation.com
by Jesse Bartolis on Feb 14, 2012 5:15 PM EST up reply actions
Save us Chad Jones
You’re our only hope.
Strikeouts are boring- Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.
by CasanovaWong on Feb 14, 2012 12:22 PM EST up reply actions
Doubt he falls to 32
But, would be awesome value there and I would embrace the pick.
Husker/Giants/Mets fan living behind enemy lines.
I don't think Barron is going in the first.
Reports of him having a hernia that has him out until August. That means he misses the combine, pro day, spring OTAs and maybe even some of training camp.
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 14, 2012 10:14 AM EST reply actions
Ed, I read the article you posted up on twitter.
http://www.theseahawk.org/sports/manning-won-the-battle-but-brady-wins-the-war-1.2777522#.Tzp6U_n4K7X
That guy takes a shot at Eli’s looks, college, and even his wife. That’s the epitome of low class journalism.
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 14, 2012 10:16 AM EST reply actions
LOL!
Yeah. I will get around to writing something about that here. Just bitter nonsense. Yeah, we know Brady is historically better than Eli. And we don’t care.
by Ed Valentine on Feb 14, 2012 10:19 AM EST up reply actions
They're a Seahawks website right? I don't even understand what possessed the author to write something like that.
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 14, 2012 10:23 AM EST up reply actions
The guy who wrote it also writes restaurant and theater reviews...
Ochocinco could have saved a ton of money if he didn't buy his team mates "Beats by Dre" because they all ended up getting "Beat by Giants"...FOR FREE!!
Restaurant and Theater reviews?
It figures…I like how he closes with
All in all, terrific Tom takes the cake. Any key category you throw out, Tom probably takes it. And, while it’s true that you cannot spell “elite” without “Eli”, it’s also true that you can’t spell “Tom Brady is a better quarterback than Eli Manning” without “Tom Brady.”
The one important category he forgets to mention is that Eli is 2-0 vs Brady in the SB. How’s that for a Theather review!
Take THAT theater critics everywhere!!
Ochocinco could have saved a ton of money if he didn't buy his team mates "Beats by Dre" because they all ended up getting "Beat by Giants"...FOR FREE!!
Oh critics are cherry picking things against Eli but forget to apply the same thing on other QBs.
This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.
i guess the constant rain must really get to them
this is about as pessimistic as you can get
"I like prime rib, and I'd love to win a Super Bowl" -Andy Reid
"11 guys playing as 1 are HARD to beat" -Justin Tuck
Yeah...I wonder how often the membership on their site turns over...
They have the highest suicide rate in North America…
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
I also thought you would bust out one of those oldschool "Valentine's View" headers you had in years past
to commemorate today haha
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 14, 2012 10:27 AM EST up reply actions
Alright
who pissed in that guys cornflakes.
And I’d take Abby over Giselle anyday
You down wit JPP?
I got 99 problems but a Vick ain't one!
I'd take abby over her too
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 14, 2012 10:36 AM EST up reply actions
But Giselle is loaded that has to count for a lot
Eli is our King!
But
If you’re Eli or Tom you made your own money. So that’s not really an issue. I like Abby better too. Giselle seems like a high maintenance chick.
Go Giants!
Well..
Abby is better looking but Giselle obviously has some same sex urges. That’s always a plus.
by eyerish9299 on Feb 14, 2012 12:24 PM EST up reply actions
Confused
which one is Gisele?
Faith is a refusal to panic
BB1156, Bobbiblue: I respect you two.
by Commander Prime on Feb 14, 2012 12:35 PM EST up reply actions
Hahahah!!!!!
Both. I just blew your mind.
Why is Tom Quinn still here? I loves me some Coach Clawfin. NY Football Giants 2012 Super FN Bowl Champions!!!!!!
sigh
wish we had a good QB
New York Giants 2011 Super Bowl Champions = FACT
The NFL will now FEAR THE LOWERCASE ny
by The Always Well Dressed... on Feb 14, 2012 10:35 AM EST up reply actions
wish we had a good QB
New York Giants 2011 Super Bowl Champions = FACT
The NFL will now FEAR THE LOWERCASE ny
by The Always Well Dressed... on Feb 14, 2012 10:35 AM EST up reply actions
discount double post
New York Giants 2011 Super Bowl Champions = FACT
The NFL will now FEAR THE LOWERCASE ny
by The Always Well Dressed... on Feb 14, 2012 10:35 AM EST up reply actions
HEY RODGERS!!!!!!!!
Blue is the color of melancholy and honesty
Green is the color of inexperience, envy and nausea.
Why is it every team named after 'Birds' hates us?!?...Haha..
The Philadelphia Sandhill Cranes..
The Seattle Sea Pidgeons..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Male anatomy also
The Washington Foreskins
Tommy Boy twice in 4 years you still can't score more than 17 points. I guess when you dont have an illegal DVD of our defense it makes it much harder now don't it?
by NYG86-90-07-11 on Feb 14, 2012 12:31 PM EST up reply actions
You forgot Ravens and Cardinals.
Here in Phoenix area Warner on radio is attacking Eli and undermining his successes. Looks like he is still bitter that he sicked for the Giants and got benched in favor of Eli.
This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.
I didn't know they hired writers from the BGN fan pool
This is so stupid I ain’t even mad. Let ’em hate all they want while Eli polished his Lombardis, counts the zeroes in his bank account, and bangs his smoking hot wife.
I remember reading a Seahawks fanboard a couple years ago before they played the Giants
They were posting pictures of 9/11 and the Twin Towers on fire saying all sorts of despicable stuff.
Strikeouts are boring- Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.
by CasanovaWong on Feb 14, 2012 12:23 PM EST up reply actions
Oh i remember that. They were very classless and making fun Sept 11.
This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.
What do you guys think about
Nick Provo, he’s a local guy from my area, 6’3" 250s great pass catching tight end who needs to develop blocking skills. He’s from Syracuse and was misused his first couple of years, but has great hands and receiving ability, could have been a Gronk type player if he played in a better system that suited his skillset more, though it’s not like the giants suit any tightends skill set. 4th-6th rd, I see the guy being a quality starter.
"I’d break every bone in my body for any club I play for but I’d die for Everton"
Dave Hickson.
by ianwestpalm on Feb 14, 2012 10:24 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Haven't exactly seen a lot of him, though whatever I've read its been mostly positive.
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 14, 2012 10:25 AM EST up reply actions
He seems very similar to boss minus the unfortunate head trauma
"I’d break every bone in my body for any club I play for but I’d die for Everton"
Dave Hickson.
by ianwestpalm on Feb 14, 2012 10:39 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
This statement from the article is FACT that the two of you are wrong
Brady played his college ball at the University of Michigan, the most successful college program of all time. Eli played at Ole Miss, a school that tried to get a Star Wars character as their mascot. And failed.
I am now convince that Brady is better but needs to dump Welker and I am now a Pats fan.
All the Giants should play like Mark Bavaro.
TQ, DD and KMac Must Go!
TC, PF, KG, will stay but should go for the long term good.
It is equally worthless when people are always optimistic or always pessimistic. Either way I take their opinion with a pound of salt because I know they only have one setting. I post my own thoughts, not what either side wants to read.
by UnknownJintsFan on Feb 14, 2012 10:27 AM EST reply actions
Reply fail to above
All the Giants should play like Mark Bavaro.
TQ, DD and KMac Must Go!
TC, PF, KG, will stay but should go for the long term good.
It is equally worthless when people are always optimistic or always pessimistic. Either way I take their opinion with a pound of salt because I know they only have one setting. I post my own thoughts, not what either side wants to read.
by UnknownJintsFan on Feb 14, 2012 10:27 AM EST up reply actions
As we said all year long
Its Eli’s fault. I blame him that Chewbaka did not want to mascot for Ole Miss.
I got a GIF for that!
Giants by 17 over GB, take it to the bank!
Giants by 10 over SF, take it to the bank! Well, OK, by 3, but we are Super Bowl bound!!!!!!!
Giants will score 30 (correction 21 (damn FG's/failed 2 pt conversion)) or more points, NE 20 or less. Guess who wins? Take it to the bank!
by Fester McDougal on Feb 14, 2012 11:10 AM EST up reply actions
I love Barron to the Giants
However, if the reports of his hernia are true, not in the first.
The other S to look at is George Iloka from Boise St.
Same measureables as Barron, but he has the cover skills and hips of a corner. He’s too big to cover most wideouts, but he’s just what we need against those hybrid TE’s.
by Raptor22 on Feb 14, 2012 10:27 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Iloka is 6'4. That's absolutely insane. He can lay the lumber
My favorite S prospect in the draft after Barron is Brandon Taylor from LSU. He’s a certifiable ballhawk, and locked down the top rated defense in CFB last year. He’s very fluid, athletic, with decent size at 6’0 205.
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 14, 2012 10:31 AM EST up reply actions
I'm sayin'
How much better does next season look if we have a guy who can take Witten, Jimmy Graham, Tony Gonzalez, Vernon Davis, Jermichael Finley, etc… out of the game.
by Raptor22 on Feb 14, 2012 11:03 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I thought we did
and his name was Jacquian Williams…. BTW, nobody can keep up with Vernon Davis, so that’s kind of a moot point.
dang you!!
you stole my post!!!! lol…
Regardless of what happens, No playoffs, playoffs, no superblow, superblow.... The 2011/2012 is one of my favorite Giants Teams of all time.
actually, I just replied higher
I hadn’t even gotten down to yours yet and you were certainly well before me, so I apologize for thunder stealing. ::assumes Bradying pose::
no!!!! dont sink to that level!!!
its alright, great minds think alike!
Regardless of what happens, No playoffs, playoffs, no superblow, superblow.... The 2011/2012 is one of my favorite Giants Teams of all time.
i like LSU DBs
they give them more responsibility, they’re further along when they get to the NFL
Eli is our King!
Money means Antrel Rolle must be our SS for at least two more years
I think you only take this guy if you expect to continue to play 2 LBs and 5 DBs most downs except against heavily run oriented teams.
So was our use of Grant in 2011 a brilliant strategy or a lack of confidence in our CBs and LBs after Thomas and Goff went down? I think it was the latter. I don’t see how an “inside the box” safety helps us at this point. It’s not a skill where having extra guys always helps like CBs, DBs and OLs.
Unless you think this Barron can cover Celek, Davis and Witten one on one, which I don’t see from the scouting reports.
Blue is the color of melancholy and honesty
Green is the color of inexperience, envy and nausea.
Your last point
is spot on. I’m sure Barron’s skillset will be taken into consideration versus the players the Giants must contend with inside the division twice every year. Although, I think Witten’s days as a serious offensive threat may be numbered.
He isn't the best cover safety in the draft, no.
What he brings is decent coverage (not vs Witten, but could be successful vs Celek)
He brings amazing run support
Never out of position, and is a leader, if you are a team looking for those.
Has a nose for the ball, so while he isn’t really a ballhawk, he’ll always be in the right position
Big Hitter.
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 14, 2012 10:35 AM EST up reply actions
On the other hand Witten seems to be going downhill in his career.
This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.
I'd look at replacing Phillips
before I’d look to replace Rolle. Kenny is a nice player, but he is nothing special. Consistently a step too late in coverage, and not all that impressive in run support. He gets the job done, but it’s rare that he makes a gamechanging play, that isn’t a mistake.
You down wit JPP?
I got 99 problems but a Vick ain't one!
I'd agree that Phillips is not as good as some think he is
but his speed is far better than Rolle’s. I cannot recall which but I do think there were some good plays he made and he also had some good hits. Younger too.
I still think Grant goes first, that is easy. Keep Rolle and Kenny but look to upgrade. No, I will not use the dreaded N word that Reese abhors.
All the Giants should play like Mark Bavaro.
TQ, DD and KMac Must Go!
TC, PF, KG, will stay but should go for the long term good.
It is equally worthless when people are always optimistic or always pessimistic. Either way I take their opinion with a pound of salt because I know they only have one setting. I post my own thoughts, not what either side wants to read.
by UnknownJintsFan on Feb 14, 2012 10:55 AM EST up reply actions
I couldn't disagree with you more.
Rolle is literally one of the worst safeties in coverage in the entire league. Don’t give me any BS about how he had to play corner for us, he’s never been good in coverage, throughout his entire career.
The guy makes boneheaded mistakes constantly. Vernon Davis made him look silly. Kenny Phillips is not a playmaker no, but he doesn’t screw up. Beyond that, Antrel Rolle is one of the HIGHEST PAID safeties in the league. Definitely not worth it.
Expecting big plays out of your safeties when you only have one reliable (not lockdown, reliable) cover corner is ridiculous. Ed Reed and Troy Polamalu make big plays because they’re allowed to freelance, which our injury situation prevented either of our safeties from doing.
just my observations
I find myself begrudgingly saying “Phillips… damn it.” after plays far more often that Role’s name. Maybe it’s playcall, maybe I have a grudge (not that I’m aware of though) but I see him outta position by just enough way too often. I think he has a tendency to overestimate his closing speed, especially since the knee injury (which is a shame because he started that season so strong) and it allows uncontested completions where he arrives just a tick too late on a fairly consistent basis.
As I said he’s a nice player, but if I was looking to upgrade one or the other I’d love for someone to push him.
Yes Rolle is overpaid but I think if left in his position he’s more reliable than KP. Neither has been a playmaker since they arrived, but I have more confidence in Rolle to make makeable plays than I do in Phillips.
You down wit JPP?
I got 99 problems but a Vick ain't one!
KP makes more game changing plays than Rolle does though
and what does “nothing special” mean?
who’s “special” on this team? is Rolle? Is any DB?
IMO he’s doesn’t get a chance to support the Run but is more than adequate at it.
I think the one arguement that is valid here is that he’s a step too late….but only at times. not consistently.
Fire Fewell
I agree
I havent seen anything that makes me believe our Safeties, or anyone on our team for that matter, is the worst to play the position in the league…
I blame everything on the play calls, and the opposing offense (what professional offenses are supposed to do) figure it out and exploit its weakness.
Regardless of what happens, No playoffs, playoffs, no superblow, superblow.... The 2011/2012 is one of my favorite Giants Teams of all time.
for the record...I thought KP could slid over sooner to cover Woodhead on the TD int he SB
but JPP coulda also stayed put in his “zone” that he dropped into and he didn’t.
Boley prolly coulda stayed with him a bit longer too.
Fire Fewell
They would still have scored at some point in that drive.
This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.
Dont we have someone
that has already covered Celek Davis and Witten one on one… JWill?
Regardless of what happens, No playoffs, playoffs, no superblow, superblow.... The 2011/2012 is one of my favorite Giants Teams of all time.
Yes.
If Boley and JWill keep it up and we only go to a dime vs 4 WRs, that’s even more of a reason not to draft a safety at 1, but you know JR will be sorely tempted if they have this guy in the 15-18 range on their big board and he falls to 32.
Blue is the color of melancholy and honesty
Green is the color of inexperience, envy and nausea.
Is it possible TT plays the third safety role next season?
Especially if Amukamara earns himself a starting corner job.
i'd say so considering Fewell alluded to that before this season
but give him 30 more seconds and he could change his mind…twice
Fire Fewell
I think that is the case
whether or not Prince wins the Job…
Regardless of what happens, No playoffs, playoffs, no superblow, superblow.... The 2011/2012 is one of my favorite Giants Teams of all time.
Ochocinco could have saved a ton of money if he didn't buy his team mates "Beats by Dre" because they all ended up getting "Beat by Giants"...FOR FREE!!
by nywins46 on Feb 14, 2012 10:58 AM EST reply actions 2 recs
The bloody head shot is the one you went with?
really? LOL
I got a GIF for that!
Giants by 17 over GB, take it to the bank!
Giants by 10 over SF, take it to the bank! Well, OK, by 3, but we are Super Bowl bound!!!!!!!
Giants will score 30 (correction 21 (damn FG's/failed 2 pt conversion)) or more points, NE 20 or less. Guess who wins? Take it to the bank!
by Fester McDougal on Feb 14, 2012 11:13 AM EST up reply actions
I think its fitting
New York Giants 2011 Super Bowl Champions = FACT
The NFL will now FEAR THE LOWERCASE ny
by The Always Well Dressed... on Feb 14, 2012 11:15 AM EST up reply actions
I'll come back to this and make it Green on St Patty's Day...haha
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
As much as I love Big Blue View
I still question why Feb 14th is a date dedicated to the editor-in-chief of a sports blog.
New York Giants 2011 Super Bowl Champions = FACT
The NFL will now FEAR THE LOWERCASE ny
by The Always Well Dressed... on Feb 14, 2012 11:03 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Ha
Ochocinco could have saved a ton of money if he didn't buy his team mates "Beats by Dre" because they all ended up getting "Beat by Giants"...FOR FREE!!
kind of hopeing we go LB or O-line with the first
Which of course means, JR is going to draft a DE or something.
Respect all fear none.
by Late for Dinner on Feb 14, 2012 11:14 AM EST reply actions
or a cornerback...but thats not necessarily a bad thing
"I like prime rib, and I'd love to win a Super Bowl" -Andy Reid
"11 guys playing as 1 are HARD to beat" -Justin Tuck
Here's how I look at it...
If we won the Super Bowl with all these bums we have for players..We can do it again…
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
but bobbi
we have some really expensive bums around here these days
"I like prime rib, and I'd love to win a Super Bowl" -Andy Reid
"11 guys playing as 1 are HARD to beat" -Justin Tuck
Hahaha!!!
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
My sarcasm font was not active..LOL!!!
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
its all good lol
the sarcasm font thing isnt on my side alot, but i try anyway
"I like prime rib, and I'd love to win a Super Bowl" -Andy Reid
"11 guys playing as 1 are HARD to beat" -Justin Tuck
Any one else think the ad for Brett Favre's website is...odd?
Ochocinco could have saved a ton of money if he didn't buy his team mates "Beats by Dre" because they all ended up getting "Beat by Giants"...FOR FREE!!
no I refuse to even google what you are talking about
Why, oh why… cant I talk about him like I do about Randall Cunningham or Barry Sanders or my Idol Bo Jackson….
He just has to keep showing up.
Regardless of what happens, No playoffs, playoffs, no superblow, superblow.... The 2011/2012 is one of my favorite Giants Teams of all time.
'Bama Players
Hard to know exactly what you’re getting when a guy is surrounded by other defensive players this good. And playing in Saban’s scheme. Remember how good Rolondo McClain looked.
He sure does look good on video, though. Quick, hits hard, good nose for the ball.
I know “need” isn’t a huge factor for us, but obviously it matters to some degree – i.e., we’re not going to draft a quarterback at 32. Safety looks like one of those positions where need and value could collide for us, much like TE.
I tend to agree about Bama players
you always have to factor in that Saban plays a very unique scheme, so what they do doesn’t always translate because in the pros its a huge change
Eli is our King!
Anyone remember the "other" safety we were debating with KP?
I remember most of us thought KP would get scooped up and we’d go with whoever was the #2 S in that draft class… he went in the early 2nd, maybe 6 picks after KP. I guess if he’d turned into a probowler I’d remember his name, but just wondering how he turned out and if Jerry Reese once again knew what he was doing.
Thank you, sir!
Wow… so he only started in ’09 and has 2 career INTs… Yeah, guess JR was right on that one too.
he got hurt, but so did KP
Eli is our King!
My taste in safeties runs towards
Markelle Martin or George Iloka
Coverage skill is the ability that seems in short supply in the NFL
Though I feel stronger daily about hoping an OL falls to us. Glenn, Konz, Adams, I’m a little concerned about how long it will take Brewer and I’m not 100% certain about the entire GCG group. I’m content to let TC and JR figure it all out but Eli is 30, so we can’t just let him keep taking the punishment. Glenn would be my first choice because of his flexibility.
Eli is our King!
Agree with both points
Coverage skills in a safety seem to be the #1 priority with all the big fast TE’s coming into the league. And I would rather see them find a tackle fall to us at 32.
It is a testament to this front office and the coaching staff that they found a way to win the SB with an OL that is clearly still in transition from the 2007/2008 group that was such a force behind the success of that team. The Eli of 4 years ago probably couldn’t have handled the comparative lack of protection he received down the stretch this year. That beating he absorbed while finding a way to win in SF needs to be addressed with some better personnel on the O line and I think JR will do that.
Go Giants!
i agree we need safety help for the future but
i think we’re safe at LB with goff and sintim returning plus williams and the other rookies should get even better.we need a blocking TE who can catch a little bit which we can get in FA.we should concentrate on getting younger and better at OL,RB and safety.remember grant is done,rolle makes way too much and kp’s knee is still a ticking time bomb
patriots---mark sanchez is the greatest--keep him
jets--we're getting peyton to kick ur butts
giants---dont worry little step-brother we'll protect you from them big bad pats
Kinda what I was thinking
Basically a new guy to play that part-time 3rd safety spot would be nice to have, but I’d rather use a lower round draft pick on that. Especially as we could always move back to being more heavily into our 3-linebacker sets, as our young linebackers gain more experience and Goff and Sintim come back; if we don’t have a great 3rd safety guy, we can always phase that set out somewhat.
Would rather see us use the 1st round pick on a right tackle.
For the Mocking the Draft Live draft, would you guys be disappointed if:
I trade up a lot of picks to get a top 6 guy around 15?
What about a top 12 guy at 25?
Anyone got any ideas or player goals?
by miketrout on Feb 14, 2012 5:58 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Barron will be gone by 32
But George Iloka sounds good…i’m sure there are others that should be on our S radar.
All the way to a Super Bowl victory like a knife through butter
JPP Is hands down the best DE in the NFL right now
Can't spell Elite without ELI
Jerry Reese for President 2012..let's make that happen!
Best player available
Take the BPA except at QB. Remember JPP? In Reese I trust! Lets win it again guys.
nope, youre wrong
we need a qb, eli sucks, his wife is ugly, and ole miss wanted a star wars character for the mascot. what is your problem?!?!?
"I like prime rib, and I'd love to win a Super Bowl" -Andy Reid
"11 guys playing as 1 are HARD to beat" -Justin Tuck
i quit
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"I like prime rib, and I'd love to win a Super Bowl" -Andy Reid
"11 guys playing as 1 are HARD to beat" -Justin Tuck
Makes no sense
Rice, McCoy, Graham, Gronk, Jordi – how were none of these guys BPA? Are we that bad at player projections or are we over emphasizing the defense?
by Giant Ken on Feb 15, 2012 2:17 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
JPP is a terrible example
Ive been screaming for help for Eli for years,but I loved the JPP pick. He’s just an abarition, he’s so big and athletic, that it made no sense whatsoever!
by Giant Ken on Feb 15, 2012 2:24 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Barron ain't making it to #32
The Patriots would take him in an instant with 1 of their 2 picks.
But if Barron falls to the Giants, I’d jump at the chance to get him. Grant is probably gone, so the Giants would need someone to fill in in those 3 Safety sets.
by IrishPride187 on Feb 15, 2012 10:40 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions
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