State of the Union - The End.
Yessir, its that time again. Had a SOTU at the beginning of the year (which you can find right here, and again, midseason (which you can find right here. Only makes sense to get one at the end. I'll also refer to some fanposts that I wrote as the season wore on, as a sort of look back to this season.
This is a long post, because it contains a lot of my thoughts and emotions regarding this season, so its just a disclaimer, I guess. And I have a lot of thoughts and emotions towards the season, ha.
Here we go.
My fellow Americans (and brisulph and other canadians),
Here we are again, at the end of another season. This one was special because it was intrinsically linked to a watershed moment in league history - the lockout.
Do you remember those days? We stood together - us fans - for what seemed like ages. Every single day, we listened to the same news recycled by Sportscenter. We essentially earned law degrees just to understand the jargon that was spit out, day after day. We watched as arguments between the players union and the NFL ownership flared up, then faded, only to flare up again, a bitter indictment towards the greed that had overarched over the entire sport.
We were captivated, held breathless in wonder and fear - what would "no football" mean? Surely, it wouldn't happen. It couldn't happen. Doubt crept in, until eventually we got tired of it. Anxiety turned into anger, which eventually dissipated into resignation. We didn't want to hear it anymore. We didn't care anymore. Just end it already! And in its darkest hours, it was through the leadership of a couple owners that pushed for an end. They too, were tired of it. Two owners, to be exact. John Mara and Robert Kraft. Little did they know that their leadership that brought about a fruition to this season would pay off in what seemed like destiny just five months later....
In an earlier SOTU, I mentioned that us getting Mark Herzlich would dramatically increase our karma. While that definitely seems true, I forgot to mention the great deeds by John Mara as well. Along with becoming a key figure in ending the dreaded lockout, he was one of the few owners (along with esteemed co-owner Steven Tisch) that kept all his employees on the payroll throughout the offseason. Make no mistake, the Giants are a business, but of the shark infested waters that the NFL is, the Giants proved why they are one of the few (along with the Packers, Steelers, and Patriots) Great Whites. Class. History. Power.
But enough of that. I'd rather forget those tedious summer months - I'm a Mets fan, so any proposition towards baseball only gets me more depressed - let's get on with the season.
THE SEASON
Finally, the season is here! After tons of fretting about the Eagles, about our own faults at linebacker and at offensive line, about how the Cowboys were going to make a comeback, we can finally put aside our posturing and get on with the games. Better yet, we get to start off with a powderpuff! We get Rex Grossman and the Swinging-Gate-loving, lets walk all over 'em LOLskins!
Oops.
So the season didn't start off as a rousing success. It was still only one game. We played the Rams next, and while we beat them, we hardly looked dominant. It was then that I wrote this fanpost. It wasn't my "best written" or longest fanpost, but its certainly the one that I was most proud of. Why? Because my words were somewhat prophetic that day. The quotes that stand out the most:
What this team brings to the table is resiliency. We may be the sloppiest team out there. We may play terribly for most of the game. We may be decimated by injuries. But our one saving grace may just be this mindset.
In the pregame, during John Gruden's interview, Tom Coughlin gave this quote: "We need that mental toughness...to go along with that physical toughness." I'll admit, when I saw that, I chuckled a little. No duh. But damn, after tonight, those words resonated the most strongly.
Toughness. Grit. Scrappiness. Fight. Overrated words, sure, but ones that fit this team perfectly.
Tom Coughlin in another interview was asked if the team was going to tank because of the pressure and the injuries. He said: "We cannot give up. We will not give up. There are no excuses in this locker room"
And as long as the Giants don't give up they have a chance. Despite all the step backs they'll take, if they fight on, there will be hope for this season.
That would be the key to the season. Our resiliency and our fight. We needed to take things personally. We needed to be punched in order to punch back. Well, the next week, we got our chance. The hated Philadelphia Eagles, led by none other than Lady Gaga herself were up next. We were their punching bags for the last three years. They destroyed our season last year with the Nightmare at the Meadowlands. Oh yeah, it was personal. We needed to kick ass and take names.
What did we do? Eli Manning threw for 250 some yards, 4 TDs, 0 INTs and never looked back. We exposed them for the frauds they were. We stomped on them. It was one of the best feelings in the world.
After that, we reeled off a 3-1 record before heading into Foxborough. It was our biggest test yet, it would test our resolve the most. Once again, people doubted us. The great and handsome Tom Brady, coming off a loss to the Steelers, would not allow a second loss in a row, much less in the confines of New England. We didn't have chance. 7 point underdogs, even though we had the same record. What did we do? We punched them in the face.
We pulled a 2007 on them because that is the way it hurts the most. It showed that, as a team, the Giants were one to be reckoned with in the NFC. Of course, you know what happened next. We lost four straight.
Perhaps it was to be expected. The hallmark of a Tom Coughlin coached Giants team was inconsistency, and that was certainly something all year. We had become arrogant after the New England game. A close loss against one of the class of the NFC, San Francisco, then brought us to New Orleans. We walked in without a care in the world. We know what happened next.
As high as the high was from the New England game, equally low was the low that came from that debacle. I was angriest at that moment, in this fanpost right here. Same old Giants. Same old, inevitable collapse. I hadn't wavered in my belief into getting into the playoffs, but damn, if I were to lose it, it would have been then. I was frustrated. Angered. Perhaps the arrogance that we had shown had gotten into my head...into our heads... I think we lost sight of what made the Giants the Giants.
We may be Big Blue, but hell if I had known any better, the Giants should be Hulk-colored Green.
Well, whaddya know, there's a blue Hulk!
In any case, my point is...we need to be angry. And at that point, the team was seething. The coaches were seething. The fanbase, especially, were seething. We faced the Green Bay Packers, and boy, did we give them a run for their money. Amid questionable referee calls, we came within a final 30 second Aaron Rodgers game-winning drive from potentially winning the game. Suddenly, we felt again we had a chance against anybody. Amazing how a loss can do that sometimes.
Until, of course, you lose to Rex freaking Grossman again.....
(Yeah, I can't even begin to explain it)
So there we were, our backs against the wall, and the rest is...as they say...history. I won't go into much detail about the final six games, because, hell, what is there to say? Some things are better left just appreciated, rather than described, so I'll leave you with this:
New York Jets - Win
Dallas Cowboys - Win
Atlanta Falcons - Win
Green Bay Packers - Win
San Francisco 49ers - Win
New England Patriots - Win
That seems like a who's who tour of teams I'd love to beat down. Ideally, I'd replace the Falcons with the Eagles. Alas, that team wasn't good enough to make the playoffs, so it couldn't happen. The final game of the season - Super Bowl XLVI - was a microcosm of our entire season. Fast start, followed by a lull where the enemy catches up...only to be crushed by a 4th quarter comeback. Those last six games were our overarching 4th quarter comeback, they were our masterpiece, the perfect storm of anger, opportunity, health and focus, the piece de resistance, you get the picture.
In my first SOTU, I mentioned the identity that the team needed to take. Here's what I said:
The Giants....the front office has the look of being ruthless and professional. That is our identity and we need to seize it. Ruthless....and professional. You look to the leaders...Tuck and Eli.....professional, definitely. Ruthless? Not with those turnovers. We all know about our famed killer instinct....or lack thereof.
This is the mindset the players need. Once we have this identity, the rest of the league will have no choice...
In the middle of the season, we lost that ruthlessness. That killer instinct. We didn't do what Coughlin had been saying from day one...."finish, finish, FINISH." With our backs against the wall, something clicked. I don't know how or why, whether it be from desperation or something. We realized that we were better than everyone else. We were not that soft serve cone that New Orleans made us out to be. We caught and held on to that resiliency.
We realized that if we were hungry enough, if we were angry enough, we'd be the ones with the foot on the throat of the opponent. And hell, the playoffs were a f***ing massacre.
After the revenge tour was over, I heard every excuse under the sun.
"We got hot at the right time"
"We got so lucky! Look at those lucky bounces the Giants got!"
"The best teams did not play in the Superbowl"
All of those are hilarious. For one, the whole "hot" thing. I don't know why that's even used by opposing fans as an indictment on overall team talent. To get hot, you need momentum. To get momentum, you need good play. To get good play, you need to be a good team. Not a talented group of individuals, a good team.
Similarly, what exactly is the difference between "luck" in these types of games, and opportunism. Every team makes mistakes. We've fumbled plenty. We had some bounces go our way, sure, but a lot of it was due to hustle in recovering our own mistakes. We caused plenty of fumbles, and recovered them as well. On both Kyle Williams fumbles, it took a good eye, and even better hustle from Devin Thomas to recover both fumbles. On top of that, we had more than a few individuals (Manning, Nicks, Cruz, Tuck, etc) performing at an extremely high level.
As far as the "best teams not playing," that's garbage. It's the reason we have the playoffs. Some teams lose, and some teams win. Simple as that. That reasoning is why the BCS is so controversial.
Whatever excuses/whining there is from detractors, it cannot take away the fact that the Giants have won the most superbowls out of anybody else in the past five years with 2. They are the only NFC team to go to the Superbowl more than once, going 3 times, since the turn of the century. They are one of only three teams to win multiple superbowls (the others being the Patriots and Steelers) since 2000. They have the best record in the NFC since 2005.
Nobody will ever admit to it, because quite frankly, it doesn't look like it...but the facts don't lie. The Giants are one of the dominant teams of this era. Like it or not (I get the feeling alot of BBVers love it).
THE TEAM
One thing that I didn't do (did you notice), in my description of the season above was mention a lot of players. Or mention them with any sort of detail. That was done by design. My point?
To become world champions, you win as a team. No one can do it by themselves (though it's looked like it a couple times this season). Each win or loss can be credited and blamed to, and ONLY to, the team as a whole.
That being said, I'd like to mention a few players/coaches/general managers that helped make this dream of a season possible.
Eli Manning - This season starts and ends with Manning. The much maligned central figure for most of his career, he was cast into an exclusive group - a group of QBs with SB rings that were laughed at, pooped on, and generally disparaged. He joined the ranks of Trent Dilfer and Brad Johnson. He suffered what I thought was the ultimate insult in not being included in the NFL Top 100 - a list compiled by his own contemporaries.
Manning, however, in true Eli Manning fashion, shrugged it off as easily as he does his shoulder pads after every throw. He went total FU mode all season, he captured that ruthlessness that we talked about. That killer instinct. That drive and desire to succeed, and went on to create a historic performance in the fourth quarter this season. Its crazy to think that he has not one, but two superbowl MVPs. Only five quarterbacks in the history of the game share that honor. All are either in the Hall of Fame or are assuredly Canton-bound. No reason to see why Eli doesn't fit the argument. The ice to Peyton's fire, he has quietly (and yes, its been quiet) ascended to being the best QB that New York has ever seen.
Ahmad Bradshaw - He didn't have a great season. Didn't even have a good season. But I read an article by Ohm Youngmisuk (which at this point, I cannot locate, so just trust me on this one), which detailed how every single day, Bradshaw, with nary a complaint, came into work. 5 minutes early, of course, and always with a smile as he saw teammates. He always came in smiling, laughing. He would always head to the trainer's room, every day, and his smile would turn into a grimace. He came in pain every. single. day. He'd get his foot worked on each day, having to skip practice on Wednesdays and Thursdays for fear that the cracked bone in his foot might devolve into something much worse and sideline him for the rest of the year, if not for his career. Michael Strahan called him "pound for pound the toughest guy he's ever seen." I don't know the man personally, but I'd be inclined to agree with him. He deserves a shoutout for that, which is why I included him here.
Hakeem Nicks/Victor Cruz - Mentioning both together here, because by now, they are intertwined. They together form the most dangerous WR duo in the NFL (formerly a trio, but losing Mario Manningham seems like a foregone conclusion). I won't say that one is better than the other, because that is a pointless argument. Some people will say Nicks has done it for longer, is more consistent. They'll say that Cruz is a one-hit wonder. Others will say that that was one hell of a hit. Both are right. All I'm going to do is enjoy the golden age of Giants offense, because we are most definitely in it. These guys both strike fear the hearts of the opponents, and that's quite the rare feat for a Giant WR. They are the ones responsible for pushing us over the top and keeping us in the lofty company of the offense juggernauts that are the Saints, Packers, and Patriots. What they have done this year, is simply remarkable. Cruz throughout the regular season, with big play after big play. Nicks with one of the best postseasons for a WR in NFL history in terms of yardage.
Jason Pierre-Paul/Osi Umenyiora/Justin Tuck - Again, I'm going to cop out and mention all three. Why? Because all three are connected to each other invariably. JPP has been the bell cow of the defense, and rightfully so. He's as close to a monster as humans can genetically get. Yet he's still raw, and still learning. Who is he learning from? Justin Tuck and Osi Umenyiora. Tuck and Osi have been injured, and not always been 100%. They still were troopers and played their hearts out when they were on the field, regardless of effectiveness. Who opened up weaknesses for them? Jason Pierre-Paul. They are symbiotically attached, destined to play off each other, all coming together to swallow opposing offenses alive. And holy hell, has it been a thing of beauty to watch.
Steve Weatherford - Didn't think I'd be able to forget the troubles that Matt Dodge brought so quickly, but damn, man, you were the catalyst for that.
Tom Coughlin/Perry Fewell/Kevin Gilbride - I've doubted all three several times this season, as I'm sure many a Giant fan has, and with good reason. The coaching has been far from perfect. Fortunately, you don't need to be perfect to orchestrate the perfect ending. It's funny how if the Giants had lost one game from the last six, Tom Coughlin's legacy would be totally different. But that didn't happen, and Coughlin deserves accolades as much as any. When all is said and done, you'll have a bronze bust in Canton, staring disapprovingly at everybody for eternity, Tommy boy. And you know what? You deserve it. You represent the lowercase ny with as much class and honor as anybody.
Jerry Reese - The current iteration of the legacy of legendary general managers of this franchise. Starting with George Young, than to Ernie Accorsi, and than finally to Jerry Reese. You have two rings to your credit, Jerry. I don't think its a stretch to say that you are the best General Manager in the National Football League. You have had your detractors, but don't worry, I got your back. Had to do it twice, too. Here and again here.
I believe in Jerry Reese. He may be frustrating. He may look like he's twiddling his thumbs while his competitors make big splashes. But at the end of the day (thanks Antrel), he knows what the hell he's doing.
I had just wanted to touch on those guys for a little bit. Some extra thoughts, I suppose that I wanted to get out. That's not to say that players like Corey Webster, Kenny Phillips, Antrel Rolle, Brandon Jacobs, Mathias Kiwanuka, Chase Blackburn, Chris Canty, etc., didn't contribute to the title run. They all did just as much as the guys I talked about.
From Eli Manning, to the players in the scout team, each member of the New York Football Giants contributed, in some way to this glorious season. Yes, even the much maligned Travis Beckum and Clint Sintim. At the end of the day (again, thanks Antrel), they represented the lowercase ny with class and dignity. They all did their parts, and they are all worthy of their fans' admiration and respect.
THE FUTURE
Amidst the glow and fervor of the franchise's 4th Lombardi trophy (4th most all time) and 8th championship overall (3rd most all time), we look towards the future. More specifically, a title defense, which will be tougher than ever.
I've already touched upon the difficulty regarding our financial situation in a fanpost here.
With a well run organization like the Giants, there's no such thing as a closing window, or even a rebuilding period (though we've had several of those in the past). That doesn't mean that there won't be change, however. I feel like in the next three or four years, we'll have a changing of the guard. It has certainly started in many respects with the offensive line. By the start of the 2013 season, I don't expect to see anyone except Chris Snee from the 2007 championship run. We'll see the young guns on the defensive line take over. We know that will be the case with Linval Joseph and Jason Pierre-Paul, and I have high hopes for Marvin Austin.
There's been a revolution at LB, no doubt, with Jacquian Williams leading the pack. Similarly, Prince Amukamara will pave the way for a new dawn in the secondary in the coming years. However, with all the change coming, the biggest piece of the puzzle is still undoubtedly Eli Manning, who appears firmly entrenched for the next 6 to 8 years, barring any catastrophes.
He will have to be the rock, with Coughlin's time drawing to a close in the coming years as well. Though, Eli will be accompanied by the front office, who is as rock solid as ever, and will supply him with whatever is needed to succeed.
Next year is a new year. A year that will show the regression of a few players (like with McKenzie this year) and the emergence of others (Cruz, Pierre-Paul). We will have new fan favorites, new trials and tribulations. We look for impacts from Prince Amukamara and Marvin Austin. From Ramses Barden and Jerrel Jernigan. We'll look to see if Herzlich can take the next step in becoming a starter, we'll see who we bring back from free agency. We'll hope and pray that finally our LBzez will be set with Boley, Kiwi, and JWill. We'll have an entirely new draft class to look forward to (more on that in the weeks to come).
The title of my post lied. There really isn't an end. I think writing this was therapeutic for me. I'm still enjoying the beauty of this past season, but now I'm ready to move on.
I've already been mock drafting, reviewing film, and doing some amateur scouting. I've got a ton of new draft prospects to look at and talk about. We're about to start a new season. Our title defense is on the line. The biggest hindrance to it is complacency, the enemy of success. Our players need to be hungry, they need to be out looking for blood. And with Coughlin coming back, I have no doubt they will be. For us fans, its time to look to the draft.
Time to lock and load, guys. There is no offseason.
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heh thanks mate
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 14, 2012 9:46 AM EST up reply actions
Yup I'll tackle you in an hour so...
Busy got to run some errands but I will be back for my SOTU…
Die hard Giants fan since wide Right! I was 6...
I'm down wit JPP
Yea you know me
Win Ugly.
-Eli Manning for MVP
Great read
Not gonna lie, im often put off by the sheer length of your posts, but when I read them, Im never disappointed. Good job BBI
Eli Manning is the opposite of Lebron James. If you ask Lebron for change for a dollar, he only gives you 75c because he doesnt have a fourth quarter. When Eli asks for change, he only takes one quarter because thats all he's gonna need.
"I gotta say guys, I'm on Cloud 10: it's like Cloud 9, only more ELIte"- Raptor22
Lock and load ... there is no offseason
Beautiful words
RECD
My addition: we’ve just finished rebuilding! Consider, we have 72% new payers since 07, entirely new corps, WR, LB, mainly new, DL, DB. OL is in production (Beatty, Boothe, Baas, Brewer, Petrus) and RB has to be addressed. And we did it going 27-21, and winning a Super Bowl. And they think Devin Hester is ridiculous.
Eli is our King!
Cruz scouting and pick-up was amazing
from nowhere to top three. in the NFL. All Eli needed was another toy. Defense came around after an injury filled start from worst to first.
Two astoundingly joy filled surprising SB winning seasons in four years. Great clutch HOF QB.
Our Union is Strong!
I’m thinking we are going to be even better next year, this team is young too.
Respect all fear none.
by Late for Dinner on Feb 14, 2012 8:21 AM EST reply actions
Record since 2005
Interesting to read that among NFC teams, we have the best record since 2005. That says a lot for Coughlin and Kilbride, I think (ie. calling for their heads is probably wrong).
Great...
You had me at “Yessir”…
Ochocinco could have saved a ton of money if he didn't buy his team mates "Beats by Dre" because they all ended up getting "Beat by Giants"...FOR FREE!!
Funny after that guy wrote about the "super blow"
that we should go on and win it. Another thing that was very nice karma was Eli Manning and Tom Brady meeting in the Super Bowl after what he said at the start of the season about being in the same class as Brady, and not only winning, but finishing with better stats than Brady for the game.
The irony is sheer poetry.
Ernie Accorsi to Wellington Mara upon drafting Eli Manning, "This kid id going to win you a championship, and he's going to win you more than one."
Ernie is the Man(ning)
Great job recapping
but one Omission.
That first Dallas game. While any momentum gained was squandered the next week, this game was absolutely key in my mind. Tons of people credit the Cruz catch and run 99yarder as the turning point, but to me the turning point happened a couple of weeks earlier when JPP went army of one on Dallas. And Eli pulled his best 4th quarter rabbit out the hat of the season.
Without that win, the game in NJ would have meant nothing. If ya want a performance that personified this team that was undoubtedly it. Finish.
You down wit JPP?
I got 99 problems but a Vick ain't one!
That's true. I placed the turning point of the season as the loss against GB
but that could easily have worked as well
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 14, 2012 9:47 AM EST up reply actions
so many heart attack moments this season
It’s hard to pinpoint what exactly set them off.
If ya ask ESPN it was going to chappel and going all in, If ya ask Coughlin the whole season was about Finishing, if ya ask me it was Dallas, if ya ask you it was that GB fight that pissed em off. Perhaps it was the guy yelling “It’s Matt freakin Moore!” from the upper deck during the Miami game, Or maybe when Rex Grossman said the Skins would win it all, or just being bested the first time they went to San Fran. So many crucial turns happen in a season that you barely squeak in to the playoffs, that in retrospect there truly wasn’t a dull insignificant moment right throughout the year.
With this many win or you’re done scenario’s, it’s a wonder we’re not all posting from hospital beds. I felt absolutely exhausted at the end of this run, nerves were just fried. Atlanta was the only easy win I can recall from this whole season. And really anyone of those moments goes awry and we woulda been talkin about the draft alot sooner.
Geez being a Giants fan is fun!
You down wit JPP?
I got 99 problems but a Vick ain't one!
A whooooole lota fun.
Ernie Accorsi to Wellington Mara upon drafting Eli Manning, "This kid id going to win you a championship, and he's going to win you more than one."
Ernie is the Man(ning)
Reading this post things like watching the season all over again.
it is extremely rewarding to watch your favorite team finish the season on top of the league expescially after the criticisms that they received during the course of the year from fans and sports media. thank you bbi for the trip down memory lane, great post.
If you want to argue that Manning is a) not a great quarterback or b) not the best quarterback in franchise history your credibility is automatically shot.
by LoNJDTechnology on Feb 14, 2012 8:56 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Good call
on the Superbowl being like a mini-version of the 2011 season. Fast start, sucky in the middle, pull it all together and bring it home at the end.
yes it was a good call.
One of my favorite parts.
Ernie Accorsi to Wellington Mara upon drafting Eli Manning, "This kid id going to win you a championship, and he's going to win you more than one."
Ernie is the Man(ning)
Thanks for the kind words, y'all
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 14, 2012 9:47 AM EST reply actions
Excellent post and read BBI
And a note for Costanza
The great and handsome Tom Brady,
See, even the great BBI thinks a HOF criteria for Brady is that he is good looking.
eyyyy!!!
you know there are Gmen fans in Mexico, Latin America and elsewhere.
I demand to be included!!!!!
doh! Let me amend it to, my fellow BigBlue fans worldwide!
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 14, 2012 4:14 PM EST up reply actions
Just a play on Richard Nixon and 'State of the Union'
‘My fellow Americans, let me say this about that’ famous Richard Nixon line.
A Giant fan anywhere in the world is part of the family. My girlfriend’s father in the Czech Republic just watched his first football game, Super Bowl 46. He had seen me wearing Giants gear, so he assumed during the whole game that the team wearing blue was the Giants, as he couldn’t understand the commentary. Felt sorry for me.
Have to get him a Giants white victory jersey.
Coughlin owns Belichick.
by Spider Lockhart on Feb 17, 2012 3:18 AM EST up reply actions
a true case of northism
You PLAY to WIN the GAME.
Dear Tebow, please let the Giants beat the Patriots.
by Simms-McConkey on Feb 15, 2012 6:35 AM EST up reply actions
No...
I have plenty of Southern friends. Those people are well spoken and classy. lol
Ernie Accorsi to Wellington Mara upon drafting Eli Manning, "This kid id going to win you a championship, and he's going to win you more than one."
Ernie is the Man(ning)
Great Job BBI
New York Giants 2011 Super Bowl Champions = FACT
The NFL will now FEAR THE LOWERCASE ny
by The Always Well Dressed... on Feb 14, 2012 11:40 AM EST reply actions
Excellent Post
One of the reasons why BBV is so popular…. thank you for your contributions.
you come at the king you best not miss...
NEW PROUND OWNER OF SB 46 JPP #90
#ALLIN
"By the start of the 2013 season, I don't expect to see anyone except Chris Snee from the 2007 championship run."
What so were gonna cut Eli Manning? lol jk
Eli Manning is The Boston Strangler
The 2011 New York Giants = The best 9-7 team of all time
ALL IN!!!!
by JasonPierrePwned on Feb 14, 2012 3:15 PM EST reply actions
I hope we cut Eli.
He’s an interception machine.
"I believe in Eli!" -Deion Sanders
"Eli done gangsta'd the NFL" -Deion Sanders
JPP for NFL Defensive Player of the Year
You and me both.
Ochocinco could have saved a ton of money if he didn't buy his team mates "Beats by Dre" because they all ended up getting "Beat by Giants"...FOR FREE!!
lol but i do not like that even as a joke.
This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.
Nobody else is really worth it
/kidding.
Meant to say OL there haha.
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 14, 2012 4:14 PM EST up reply actions
That's obviously our first cut
need the cap space dur
Nets Mets Giants All day Every day.
Beware the Lopez
NY Giants Tribute
Reese is good...but...
To be considered one of the best he will have to continue to produce a winner after Eli leaves. Taking a team over with a great QB can make a guy look great. However, can Reese keep that going with the next QB and beyond. That is greatness. Right now he is only good.
Can't think of any GM in the entire league that's better.
I’d consider that great.
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 14, 2012 4:15 PM EST up reply actions
ok, makes sense
I agree that I cannot think of another GM I would want more. There are other GMs that I think are as good though. A GM has to be measure over a lot of time. Players can be great after a couple of years, coaches after a few year, but GMs take much more time. This is is because the GM could look good due to the greatness of an individual player. In the case of Reese he inherited Eli, the greatest QB in Giants history. He also inherited a pretty good offensive line that he now needs to fix. If Reese can keep this thing going then I agree he is great.
Thats a fair viewpoint to have.
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 14, 2012 7:54 PM EST up reply actions
were you the "Fire Reese" guy?
You PLAY to WIN the GAME.
Dear Tebow, please let the Giants beat the Patriots.
by Simms-McConkey on Feb 15, 2012 6:37 AM EST up reply actions
Yup
I still question him a lot. Eli is great and took the team on his shoulders rather then Reese making a bunch of great moves to make the team great. There are many positions on this team that are in a lot of trouble if he doesn’t finally draft there this year. I doubt Reese will keep the job long after Eli retires.
I'm still unsure of what you don't like about him or his decisions.
Like I said in my fanpost, its a team game. You can have a legendary QB, but if he doesn’t have a complete team around him, it means jack and they won’t get anywhere. Reese has added to the strengths of the team. He’s made the DL one of the best in the NFL. Ditto WR. If it weren’t for him, our secondary would be reduced to nothing this year.
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 15, 2012 10:32 PM EST up reply actions
every team has holes
it’s the bonus of the salary cap, it promotes parity.
The best teams are the ones that can tweak their gameplan to minimize the impact of their weakspots. JR does a pretty damn good job of giving this team enough to work with, and Coughlin and co. have shown that they can do a pretty good job of hiding the holes that JR couldn’t fill.
2 titles. Both teams had glaring weaknesses. But both had enough to be better than the rest.
You down wit JPP?
I got 99 problems but a Vick ain't one!
The only hole we will have at the end of the season to fill is the spot where we will put SB47 trophy for 2012 season next to the SB46 trophy. Back2Back SB wins.
This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.
It's so hard to do.
The smart bet is to bet against it, but we’ll be rooting for it!
Ernie Accorsi to Wellington Mara upon drafting Eli Manning, "This kid id going to win you a championship, and he's going to win you more than one."
Ernie is the Man(ning)
This team can do it. Just dont have players partying late hours with guns in their pants
This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.
you realize how tough our schedule was this year and the amount of injuries we absorbed and overcame right...
This roster is loaded stacked and chock full of talent…EVERYWHERE. Not sure if you’ve opened your eyes recently but we won the Super Bowl, Eli didn’t win it by himself. He didn’t catch that pass that he threw. He didn’t block for himself. He didn’t outrace any defenders to the endzone after a 7 yard slant…
Die hard Giants fan since wide Right! I was 6...
I'm down wit JPP
Yea you know me
Win Ugly.
-Eli Manning for MVP
, even Brady can't throw the pass and catch it too.
This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.
Oh yeah? Says who?
Ernie Accorsi to Wellington Mara upon drafting Eli Manning, "This kid id going to win you a championship, and he's going to win you more than one."
Ernie is the Man(ning)
I know, thought I was tossing you a softball for a joke opportunity. haha
Ernie Accorsi to Wellington Mara upon drafting Eli Manning, "This kid id going to win you a championship, and he's going to win you more than one."
Ernie is the Man(ning)
Lol and that is why we all set this one up.
This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.
He is great. It's obvious.
But your point is valid in the sense that once Eli is gone it will be up to Reese, and the organization as a whole, to find the next great QB. And often a team is a victim of circumstance in that regard. You not only have to target the right guy, but you have to be in a position to get him, usually in the draft.
And if you can’t get your man for a couple of years, then we will also see how great a GM is as he builds a roster to win as many games as possible and compete for a championship without the superstar QB.
Ernie Accorsi to Wellington Mara upon drafting Eli Manning, "This kid id going to win you a championship, and he's going to win you more than one."
Ernie is the Man(ning)
Absolutely beautiful, BBI.
This really is a rewarding time to be a Big Blue fan.
"I believe in Eli!" -Deion Sanders
"Eli done gangsta'd the NFL" -Deion Sanders
JPP for NFL Defensive Player of the Year
Again, thanks all for the kind words. Positive (and negative) feedback is one big reason why I enjoy
writing, especially to this community.
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 14, 2012 4:15 PM EST reply actions
wrap-up
Great post,as always,you are the best!!
I made a Hulk Eli?
you wanna see?
Nets Mets Giants All day Every day.
Beware the Lopez
NY Giants Tribute
I've seen that one haha
its awesome and tried putting it in, but I got an error message. Post it up though if you want, it only adds to Eli’s mystique lol
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 14, 2012 5:25 PM EST up reply actions
This is the picture of the Hulk Eli
pushing out a steamer. Maybe that’s the Linc behind him and he just blew the place up and the dookie is the exclamation point. Or not…
Ernie Accorsi to Wellington Mara upon drafting Eli Manning, "This kid id going to win you a championship, and he's going to win you more than one."
Ernie is the Man(ning)
Eli eats Eagles and shits FIRE!!!
Ochocinco could have saved a ton of money if he didn't buy his team mates "Beats by Dre" because they all ended up getting "Beat by Giants"...FOR FREE!!
Why are your posts always so good?
I’m jealous
Nets Mets Giants All day Every day.
Beware the Lopez
NY Giants Tribute
When I think of this years Giants
I’m reminded of that line from Caddyshack:
“…wanna make 14 dollars the hard way? "
Boy the Giants sure did it the hard way this year.
I have seen the word that I wanted to use
to describe this post twice already but I don’t care because it is the one that applies the best IMO. BEAUTIFULLY written.
It creates emotion, and alot of it.
So many parts that I enjoyed but I think I enjoyed your breakdown of the term “getting hot” the best.
This post just adds to my thorough enjoyment of this season, thanks BBI.
Ernie Accorsi to Wellington Mara upon drafting Eli Manning, "This kid id going to win you a championship, and he's going to win you more than one."
Ernie is the Man(ning)
by tommy d. on Feb 14, 2012 6:07 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
I had to put that in, because I hate the term "getting hot" being used as some sort of excuse
in any case, many thanks, brother.
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 15, 2012 8:55 AM EST up reply actions
MY pleasure.
Yeah “getting hot” at the right time is just one of the Negative Nancy’s ways of putting down a team.
I seriously have a hard time understanding people who put down greatness, wether it be a player, a team, a coach. Some folks just don’t like to accept greatness unless it is wrapped up nice in a specific kind of package that they can relate to. However, greatness, wherever you may find it in life, takes on many forms.
Ernie Accorsi to Wellington Mara upon drafting Eli Manning, "This kid id going to win you a championship, and he's going to win you more than one."
Ernie is the Man(ning)
Ah finally got around to my SOTU
Navy been keeping me busy busting my ass out here in Japanland. I love your fanposts BBI as most here do. Now give me another one! Draft gogogo…
Die hard Giants fan since wide Right! I was 6...
I'm down wit JPP
Yea you know me
Win Ugly.
-Eli Manning for MVP
hahaha thanks man
I got a few thoughts on a couple, but I’ll wait till after the combine.
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 15, 2012 8:27 AM EST up reply actions
Funny thing about it, it seems like this is a truism:
You gotta lose some games, to win the Super Bowl.
You PLAY to WIN the GAME.
Dear Tebow, please let the Giants beat the Patriots.
unless you're the dolphins.....but I'm willing to bet if they played a full 19 games, they'd lose at least one
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 15, 2012 8:29 AM EST up reply actions
A season to enjoy alright
Great post, and great reflections on a season we will all remember. It will stay with us all for a while.
But like you, I am ready for the Combine, Draft, and seeing what JR can do in F/A…we have a great core, but gaps and ageing in some areas…should be an interesting summer!
by Wide Right From The 47 on Feb 15, 2012 7:08 AM EST reply actions
interesting and crazy summer no doubt!
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 15, 2012 8:28 AM EST up reply actions
Nice read
AB is all heart, he’s a tough little bull dog.
Did anyone notice how much Linval Joseph’s play improved through the playoffs and how good he was in the SB?
"Thats Eli man cooler than the other side of the pillow" Mario Manningham after Super Bowl XLVI
he got pressure on almost every other play. It was insane.
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 15, 2012 8:28 AM EST up reply actions
OMG yes.
Dude was hitting his stride late in the first full year of playing pro ball. That impressed me as much as anything. Bright future for him, dim future for other teams up the middle protection.
Ernie Accorsi to Wellington Mara upon drafting Eli Manning, "This kid id going to win you a championship, and he's going to win you more than one."
Ernie is the Man(ning)
haha nice tommy
Bright future for him, dim future for other teams up the middle protection.
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 15, 2012 8:54 AM EST up reply actions
when Marvin Austin gets beast mode
The Giants will straight destroy — 3 great DTs, 3 great DEs
You PLAY to WIN the GAME.
Dear Tebow, please let the Giants beat the Patriots.
by Simms-McConkey on Feb 15, 2012 11:34 AM EST up reply actions
I can't freaking wait, bro
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 15, 2012 12:01 PM EST up reply actions
Me neither.
Kinda makes me salivate for more – gasp – Dlinemen in the draft.
I’m all in with this philosophy of drafting these guys high and we sure know how to develop ’em too.
Ernie Accorsi to Wellington Mara upon drafting Eli Manning, "This kid id going to win you a championship, and he's going to win you more than one."
Ernie is the Man(ning)
Oh man, you set me up perfectly for a dog joke there, kay, but I'll refrain hahaha
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 15, 2012 8:29 AM EST up reply actions
i thought it was a "Eli = gunslinger" reference
You PLAY to WIN the GAME.
Dear Tebow, please let the Giants beat the Patriots.
by Simms-McConkey on Feb 15, 2012 11:35 AM EST up reply actions
I loved the Clint picture at the end lol
Die hard Giants fan since wide Right! I was 6...
I'm down wit JPP
Yea you know me
Win Ugly.
-Eli Manning for MVP
Unfinished Business
The most exciting winners in the league, always needing long faultless runs away from home to keep it going. Arguably three of the most over-achieving teams in Super Bowl history.
But you are right BBI, we definitely have no time to rest.
I will not be satisfied until we have more Lombardis than Dallas. They are still ahead of us 5 to 4.
This season was so close to being a replay of 2007, it is eerie. It is most rewarding coming in on the top while only having done what was absolutely necessary to get there. Beating Rex Grossman wasn’t necessary. Pounding Dallas twice was. And always will be.
For me we got two trophies this year. The Lombardi and Dallas hide on our wall. Not even the ’86 team did that.
Coughlin owns Belichick.
by Spider Lockhart on Feb 17, 2012 3:40 AM EST reply actions
The Dallas hide is on the wall.
Boy do I like the sound of that. And I’m with you in regards to Lombardi’s. That’s how I’m keeping score and it pissed me off last year when GB went ahead of us 4-3. I’m glad we evened that back up the very next year. I want more than anyone in the league when all is said and done and we only have three teams ahead of us.
PIT 6
SF 5
DAL 5
NYG 4.
We are up there, next step is to tie those two hated rivals SF and DAL
Ernie Accorsi to Wellington Mara upon drafting Eli Manning, "This kid id going to win you a championship, and he's going to win you more than one."
Ernie is the Man(ning)
Yup next stop we tie for 5 and then then with Steelers then move to 7 by ourselves.
This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.

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