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New York Giants News And Notes: Victor Cruz, Jake Ballard And More

Victor Cruz has the admiration of New York Giants fans. Now, he wants to cash in.  (Photo by Al Bello/Getty Images)

Good morning, Super Bowl champion New York Giants fans!

Victor Cruz: "I feel like I deserve to be paid more money at this point" | ProFootballTalk
Last year, Victor Cruz earned $450,000. In return, the Giants received a franchise record for receiving yardage, with 1,536 yards. Next year, Cruz is due to make $490,000. He believes he should get more.

"I think I was paid, you know, relative to where I came in this year and, you know, I came in as a free agent so that's the salary I was on, so I don't feel like I was underpaid," Cruz said. "I mean, I feel like after my performance this year, you know, I feel like I deserve to be paid more money at this point. But that's something I'll let my agents and those people take care of and I'll just go out there and play the game."

Torn ACL bad news for Ballard - Giants Blog - ESPN New York
NEW ROCHELLE, NY -- Jake Ballard was hoping it wasn't serious when he went down with a left knee injury in the fourth quarter of the Super Bowl.

New York Giants' Brandon Jacobs apologizes for Gisele Bundchen comments - ESPN New York
New York Giants running back Brandon Jacobs apologized Wednesday night for telling reporters Tuesday that Gisele Bundchen should stay cute and shut up.

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Giants to be honored with commemorative NY license plate; some would rather see a 9/11 plate - Shutdown Corner - NFL Blog - Yahoo! Sports
If you're a New York driver, you will be able to get a handsome license plate honoring the 2012 Super Bowl champion New York Giants. There is currently no option, though, for you to get a license plate honoring victims and first responders of the September 11, 2001 tragedy.

This has some New York residents and politicians unhappy. Jim Tedisco, a Republican New York State assemblyman, had this to say. Via the AP:

"I'm happy that the Giants won the Super Bowl as much as the next New Yorker, but who are the real heroes our state should first be celebrating with distinctive plates, the athletes on the gridiron or the first responders and the people who lost their lives on Sept. 11?"

Bill Belichick told Patriots to make NY Giants throw to Mario Manningham on final Super Bowl drive - NY Daily News
Bill Belichick had one final Super Bowl wish, and the Giants were happy to grant it.

Just before the Giants' final drive, the Patriots coach told his defense to "make them" throw to receiver Mario Manningham. He was far more worried about Giants receivers Victor Cruz and Hakeem Nicks.

But Manningham made him eat his words with a brilliant, 38-yard catch along the sidelines that kick-started the Super Bowl winning drive.

"This is still a Cruz and Nicks game," Belichick said in audio recorded for NFL Films and aired on NFL Network's SoundFX show on Wednesday night. "I know we're right on them. It's tight but those are still the guys. Make them go to Manningham. Make them go to (Bear) Pascoe. Let's make sure we get Cruz and Nicks."

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Justin Tuck surprises customers at a local Subway restaurant in New York,
Thursday, Feb. 9, 2012, with free $5 Footlongs in celebration of FebruANY and his
team's big win this past Sunday. (Diane Bondareff/AP Images for Subway)

Tuck is hoping for Umenyiora's return - Giants Blog - ESPN New York
"I would hope so, obviously," Tuck said. "We had seven great years together being kind of that 1-2 punch on the line. We had [Michael] Strahan early in our careers and JPP [Jason Pierre-Paul] now. It's fun to play with that guy, man. I'm hoping that he can come back but, more than that, I'm hoping that he can do what's best for him and his family."

Tuck said he played with more pain this season than at any point in his career.

"It was rough man," he said. "But I think our trainers did an excellent job of getting me ready for Sunday. That’s all I asked for. Football is a contact sport. You’re going to get some bumps and bruises and some hurts here and there, but I think mentally, I was in a good space those last couple games this year and that allowed me to just go out there and focus on helping my team."

Giants' Jason Pierre-Paul: Give Osi Umenyiora what he wants | NJ.com
"Personally, give him what he wants," fellow defensive end Jason Pierre-Paul said during an appearance at a Manhattan Macy’s. "Osi’s a great player and I’d love to play with him for the rest of my career until he’s ready to leave."

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If you’re a fan or a hater, here’s your chance to listen and find out first hand

Eli is our King!

by trueblue63 on Feb 10, 2012 7:13 AM EST reply actions  

JR just spent a half hour saying nothing

They tried to paint him in a corner, but he’d have none of it.

One thing of interest. He confirmed that the GM doesn’t do first cut scouting of college players when talking about JPP. This is a paraphrase, but the regional scouts do all the first cuts, narrow the focus, sounded like their touts go up the chain to a scouting director (I think that would be Marc Ross, but their could be intermediary guys). Eventually at least on high picks (I suspect it might be many more than we imagine) the GM goes out to scout them personally. Each guy that scouts a player does his own eval.

Reese gave loads of praise to his scouts. Said the Giants org has great scouts and lots of them.

Eli is our King!

by trueblue63 on Feb 10, 2012 8:52 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah but who did these guys learn from?

Reese and Ross have been there a while now so its thier system these scouts are using. They know from jump street what kind of players Ross and Reese want. Just like what TC expects from his coaches.

"We are only going to score 17 points?" No Tommy Boy only 14. You still cant score more than 17 points! I guess when you are not video taping walk throughs it slows you down a little bit.

by NYG86-90-07 on Feb 10, 2012 9:52 AM EST up reply actions  

Cruz deserves to get paid

And all I can say about Tuck is he’s a tough bastard. I know he was fighting through a lot, and down the stretch he still played really well.

by #56 4life on Feb 10, 2012 7:23 AM EST reply actions  

He'll get his money when it is his turn.

There is only so much money to go around (stupid salary cap), so Cruz may have to wait another year until he gets his extension.

Besides, he works in NEW YORK for crying out loud, if his agents get cracking, they should be able to get him at least 2-3 times his salary for him in endorsement deals right now. He’ll be fine.

by JTMacc on Feb 10, 2012 8:39 AM EST up reply actions  

Agree with #56 4life that Cruz has earned a payday

They’ve got him locked up for one more year but that’s not what anybody wants at this point. The kid obviously has chemistry with Eli and he’s young and talented. The next Steve Smith — The real Carolina Panthers Steve Smith, that is.

I hope they give the kid a bunch of years. Just like with our DE rotation, having more than one superstar at a key position helps everyone. Teams will have to decide who to double and the other guy will get over a hundred yards and a touchdown every time. The Giants have a history of playing hardball and expecting players to honor their contracts, but I think they’ll see the value in locking him up long-term now, instead of risking a FA bidding war. Plus if he puts up another year like this one, his price will only go up.

You PLAY to WIN the GAME.
Dear Tebow, please let the Giants beat the Patriots.

by Simms-McConkey on Feb 10, 2012 7:30 AM EST reply actions  

Nail basically on the head

Yes, I am a Giants fan. Now that we got that out of the way....
IMPEACH DOLAN!!!!
I bELIeve in ELI!!!! - Primetime -
The Big Boy Cometh....Team Jacobs
Marines say Oorah; BBVer's say SUAMBP! say it with me - Suuaahmbp!!!!

by wilddre22 on Feb 10, 2012 7:34 AM EST via Android app up reply actions  

I love nailing things

Ochocinco could have saved a ton of money if he didn't buy his team mates "Beats by Dre" because they all ended up getting "Beat by Giants"...FOR FREE!!

by nywins46 on Feb 10, 2012 8:19 AM EST up reply actions  

Boom

New York Giants 2011 Super Bowl Champions = FACT
The NFL will now FEAR THE LOWERCASE ny

by The Always Well Dressed... on Feb 10, 2012 10:06 AM EST up reply actions  

so is 42 now officially retired?

or will you bring him out to gang up on trolly eagle and cowboy fans? kinda like a tag team effort, where the poster will be like “i must retreat there are too many of them!”

Yes, I am a Giants fan. Now that we got that out of the way....
IMPEACH DOLAN!!!!
I bELIeve in ELI!!!! - Primetime -
The Big Boy Cometh....Team Jacobs
Marines say Oorah; BBVer's say SUAMBP! say it with me - Suuaahmbp!!!!

by wilddre22 on Feb 10, 2012 7:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Haha

This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.

by BB1156 on Feb 10, 2012 10:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Good points.

The thing that scares me about Cruz though is that most players in his shoes format an extraordinary level with they are trying to get a big contract. however was the big contract is obtained, then they tend to slack off. I say pay Cruz his due, I just hope that the dynamic I just touched on does not kick in afterwards.

If you want to argue that Manning is a) not a great quarterback or b) not the best quarterback in franchise history your credibility is automatically shot.

by LoNJDTechnology on Feb 10, 2012 7:37 AM EST via Android app up reply actions  

Format an = perform at

If you want to argue that Manning is a) not a great quarterback or b) not the best quarterback in franchise history your credibility is automatically shot.

by LoNJDTechnology on Feb 10, 2012 7:38 AM EST via Android app up reply actions  

I see where you are coming from and that may happen but he really doesn't seem like he's being greedy.

They won the Super Bowl and he was probably the biggest contributor (minus Eli and myself). I don’t put him in the same category as say…DeSean Jackson, who wants #1 money for being a flashy player who hasn’t helped them win a damn thing.

He seems like a baller who wants to win…bottomline. Pay the man.

I, personally, am going to purchase a bunch of Young Whales clothing to support Cruz.

Ochocinco could have saved a ton of money if he didn't buy his team mates "Beats by Dre" because they all ended up getting "Beat by Giants"...FOR FREE!!

by nywins46 on Feb 10, 2012 8:27 AM EST up reply actions  

I know exactly what you mean

But somehow I am hoping this is not the case and even though he said he think he deserves to be paid, right now he doesn’t seem arrogant about it. I have heard he is a real mellow guy so based on his performance and attitude I think the Giants will treat him right

by rbman3 on Feb 10, 2012 8:43 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I suspect JR will throw a performance bonus his way

and wait one more year on the overall contract

I got a GIF for that!
Giants by 17 over GB, take it to the bank!
Giants by 10 over SF, take it to the bank! Well, OK, by 3, but we are Super Bowl bound!!!!!!!
Giants will score 30 (correction 21 (damn FG's/failed 2 pt conversion)) or more points, NE 20 or less. Guess who wins? Take it to the bank!

by Fester McDougal on Feb 10, 2012 8:59 AM EST up reply actions  

The salary cap rules tie his hands a bit

But he can shoot him 5 appearance things, 20K to show up eat lunch and say I love being a NY Giant, it was great to win the Super Blow

Eli is our King!

by trueblue63 on Feb 10, 2012 9:50 AM EST up reply actions  

Noted.

This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.

by BB1156 on Feb 10, 2012 10:04 PM EST up reply actions  

You see that more with players on defense

I think because you have to be top of your game to play well on defense, you can half-ass it on WR and still be a pro-bowler…ask Randy Moss

The Possimpible - Where the possible and impossible meet - Barney Stinson
Big Blue View - Supporting the Catalina Wine Mixer since 2011

by DavidE on Feb 10, 2012 9:07 AM EST up reply actions  

Cruz

I don’t get the impression that Cruz is going to be a slacker. It doesn’t seem to be in his nature from what I have seen and I don’t think Eli and Hakeem will allow an atmosphere of someone dogging it. JMHO

by John Celidonio on Feb 10, 2012 9:44 AM EST up reply actions  

Cruz has reached full hero status

He’s such a good story and a fan favorite. I don’t care if he ever lives up to his contact ever again, I just would die seeing him play for another team. he’s already made the team a lot of money through jersey sales too.

by B-rod24 on Feb 10, 2012 12:36 PM EST via Android app up reply actions  

And lets go a bit farther

no off season to really develop timing
they did it on the fly

Impressive for any WR/QB tandem

It is better to be silent and be thought a fool, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt.

by SNORKIS on Feb 10, 2012 7:58 AM EST up reply actions  

They do have 23 free agents?

Might have to wait? Although obviously he has outplayed his contract, we’ll see.

Ricky Williams retired....Cue up Bob Marley,
"Excuse me while I light my spliff"...

by Great Gatsby on Feb 10, 2012 8:24 AM EST up reply actions  

Cruz contract...

They probably will give him a small bump up contract ala Chris Johnson a couple of years ago to keep him satisfied and to see if he was a one hit wonder. If his numbers continue next year he will get truly paid when that contract runs out.

by oldschoolblue64 on Feb 10, 2012 9:45 AM EST up reply actions  

Jacobs was really an a**hole with those Gisele comments

Totally disgusting because a) it’s not his team to meddle in b) he’s basically saying her job in life is to look good and shut up.

He should apologize for all that public display of misogyny.

/end rant

Now everyone will say Eli is in Bradys class. F*ck me

by PatNation85 on Nov 6, 2011 4:31 PM PST

by AJ_in_VA on Feb 10, 2012 7:49 AM EST reply actions  

points taken

and yeah Jacobs was out of line, but then again I would expect nothing less from him.

But what exactly is her job again?

You down wit JPP?
I got 99 problems but a Vick ain't one!

by Flynner on Feb 10, 2012 7:52 AM EST up reply actions  

March down a runway half naked

But I heard that she and Brady do a lot of community work, so she has that going for her.

Husker/Giants/Mets fan living behind enemy lines.

by CCE718 on Feb 10, 2012 7:54 AM EST up reply actions  

right so if she didn't look good...

just sayin.

Once again Jacobs was as in the wrong as she was but

You down wit JPP?
I got 99 problems but a Vick ain't one!

by Flynner on Feb 10, 2012 7:57 AM EST up reply actions  

ok, so fans get to say what they want, but good looking women, not so much?

I know that’s not what you mean, but that’s what it amounts to.

Her error was speaking as Tom’s wife and cutting down his teammates. That’s a problem in their family/marriage and in the Patriots team.

Where Jacobs fits in that I have no idea. But he took it on himself to jump in and dismiss her on the basically on the grounds that she is a woman whose job is ti be seen and not heard for the entertainment of other men.

Whatever you think in private, you’re a public celebrity, you don’t make racist comments, you don’t make ant-gay comments, and you don’t make sexist/misogynistic comments. And if you do, it says a lot more about you than your target.

I’m pretty sure the team asked him to apologize because this is not what the Mara family stands for.

Now everyone will say Eli is in Bradys class. F*ck me

by PatNation85 on Nov 6, 2011 4:31 PM PST

by AJ_in_VA on Feb 10, 2012 8:03 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

They dont breed.

This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.

by BB1156 on Feb 10, 2012 10:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Would you have rather he said...

“Be ugly and shut up”?

Ochocinco could have saved a ton of money if he didn't buy his team mates "Beats by Dre" because they all ended up getting "Beat by Giants"...FOR FREE!!

by nywins46 on Feb 10, 2012 8:31 AM EST up reply actions  

Hummmm

This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.

by BB1156 on Feb 10, 2012 10:08 PM EST up reply actions  

BJ said something because she disrespected football, period

And I agree, f*** politically correct. Stick to modeling, leave football to them. I agree with her riding for him, but not in front of the press

by NamedMySonEli on Feb 10, 2012 8:32 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

You don't talk about

other player’s wives, irregardless of what they said or did, period!!

Ricky Williams retired....Cue up Bob Marley,
"Excuse me while I light my spliff"...

by Great Gatsby on Feb 10, 2012 9:04 AM EST up reply actions  

It's sort of funny

She was way out of line, I assume not realizing she was getting caught on tape

And BJ basically did what she did, just willingly

They ought to get em both on Jerry Springer or Dr Phil to talk it out

Eli is our King!

by trueblue63 on Feb 10, 2012 9:13 AM EST up reply actions  

Watch the video

tale of the tape so to speak, but Jake is such a tool, geez.

Ricky Williams retired....Cue up Bob Marley,
"Excuse me while I light my spliff"...

by Great Gatsby on Feb 10, 2012 9:18 AM EST up reply actions  

Do we need a blimp for BJ?

This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.

by BB1156 on Feb 10, 2012 10:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Why blame Jacobs for speaking his mind?

He is not the 1 printing the papers.

If you want to argue that Manning is a) not a great quarterback or b) not the best quarterback in franchise history your credibility is automatically shot.

by LoNJDTechnology on Feb 10, 2012 8:50 AM EST via Android app up reply actions  

I blame him

for being ignorant.

My Wife is a Patriot's fan...
"Giants rely on fumbles and stripping the ball. If the pats secure the ball, then the pats win, but if they fumble or let the ball get striped than the giants win. every game the giants play they always benefit from the other teams bonehead mistakes (fumbled or striped) not from thier skills. The giants are a dirty team, I can’t think of any othe team as dirty as the giants. They try to strip the ball as hard as they can because they know they can’t win a fair game." by EaglesNeedD on Jan 23, 2012 2:01 AM EST

by Giantssincesix on Feb 10, 2012 8:53 AM EST up reply actions  

fans do not live in the public eye

We are the scrutinizers of what is done and said, (like we are doing right now) until such time as we wind up being in the spotlight ourselves.

and again I’m not defending Jacobs for talking sh*t. But that’s all it is.

He’s always been a PR nightmare waiting to happen, this is nothing new or unexpected. Dude likes to shoot his mouth off, especially when he feels like the king of the world. I’m sure someone asked the question and he said the first thing that came to his mind/mouth.

You down wit JPP?
I got 99 problems but a Vick ain't one!

by Flynner on Feb 10, 2012 11:44 AM EST up reply actions  

Her job is ....
to look good and shut up.

Ochocinco could have saved a ton of money if he didn't buy his team mates "Beats by Dre" because they all ended up getting "Beat by Giants"...FOR FREE!!

by nywins46 on Feb 10, 2012 8:28 AM EST up reply actions  

Frankly

no one in this organization pays much attention to him anymore, I know I don’t.
Next year, none of the fan base will either!

Ricky Williams retired....Cue up Bob Marley,
"Excuse me while I light my spliff"...

by Great Gatsby on Feb 10, 2012 8:28 AM EST up reply actions  

Counter rant

Jacobs comments are typical of the crap he says, that’s why he gets asked questions, the media knows he will answer them.

Thinking that Giselle putting down her husband’s teammates was a stupid thing to say and an embarassment to her husband is a legitimate opinion most likely shared by most professional athletes.

Saying a woman should just focus on looking good would be misogyny if we weren’t talking about a woman who’s job is to look good and is world famous for it. If it was Hiliary Clinton, would you have a problem if Jacobs said she should shut up and focus on being Secretary of State?

Blue is the color of melancholy and honesty
Green is the color of inexperience, envy and nausea.

by roguetrader on Feb 10, 2012 9:07 AM EST up reply actions  

good point ^

the fact that she has a profession for her “beauty” makes BJs comments NOTHING to do with sexist/misogynistic.
Yes, I do agree BJ should stick to his athletic abilities and STFU. – uh oh, he’s black, does that make this comment racist, no it doesn’t – he plays professional football so my comment is in context – see what I did there. Same thing BJ did with his comment.

"To me, nothing that anyone says matters. If they talk about my momma and I play at a higher level of intensity, then shame on me. Nothing anyone says should elevate your football. It should already be elevated to its highest point."
- JTuck

by Just J on Feb 10, 2012 12:43 PM EST up reply actions  

total bummer for Ballard

Now everyone will say Eli is in Bradys class. F*ck me

by PatNation85 on Nov 6, 2011 4:31 PM PST

by AJ_in_VA on Feb 10, 2012 7:51 AM EST reply actions  

You notice nothing from Lady Beckum?

Ballard will be back at some point.

Mary, I am not so sure.

All the Giants should play like Mark Bavaro.
TQ, DD and KMac Must Go!
TC, PF, KG, will stay but should go for the long term good.
It is equally worthless when people are always optimistic or always pessimistic. Either way I take their opinion with a pound of salt because I know they only have one setting. I post my own thoughts, not what either side wants to read.

by UnknownJintsFan on Feb 10, 2012 8:28 AM EST up reply actions  

Like

Mary had a little lamb, can you say soft?

Ricky Williams retired....Cue up Bob Marley,
"Excuse me while I light my spliff"...

by Great Gatsby on Feb 10, 2012 8:29 AM EST up reply actions  

which is sorta crazy

because he’s got the torn ACL plus the existing partially torn PCL in the other knee. 1.5 knees & 4 TDs > 1 good knee & 1TD

by Nick Dapito on Feb 10, 2012 8:36 AM EST via Android app up reply actions  

Mary. hahahahahah!!!

Classic.

Why is Tom Quinn still here? I loves me some Coach Clawfin.

by costanza! on Feb 10, 2012 8:47 AM EST up reply actions  

yes

Ochocinco could have saved a ton of money if he didn't buy his team mates "Beats by Dre" because they all ended up getting "Beat by Giants"...FOR FREE!!

by nywins46 on Feb 10, 2012 8:31 AM EST up reply actions  

It truly does suck

that guy worked hard for this team. I wish he would be here next year.

My Wife is a Patriot's fan...
"Giants rely on fumbles and stripping the ball. If the pats secure the ball, then the pats win, but if they fumble or let the ball get striped than the giants win. every game the giants play they always benefit from the other teams bonehead mistakes (fumbled or striped) not from thier skills. The giants are a dirty team, I can’t think of any othe team as dirty as the giants. They try to strip the ball as hard as they can because they know they can’t win a fair game." by EaglesNeedD on Jan 23, 2012 2:01 AM EST

by Giantssincesix on Feb 10, 2012 8:46 AM EST up reply actions  

b***h you wasnt with me catchin on da field

UGH, B***H U WASN’T WITH ME CATCHING ON THE FIELD!
Seriously though, NFL players are not computers, and even computers mess up. She was frustrated and riding for her hubby, I give her that, but she should apologize for saying something publicly. Even if she does it through email. She doesn’t understand how difficult and nerve racking football is.

by NamedMySonEli on Feb 10, 2012 7:52 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

No, you don't understand

how hard it is laying on a beach in the Seychelles, drinking Evian, having my hair primped and primed and standing and rolling in sand.
You know where that sand gets?

It is better to be silent and be thought a fool, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt.

by SNORKIS on Feb 10, 2012 8:00 AM EST up reply actions  

please forgive me

I forgot water makes it all icky…it also slipped my mind how hot those unforgiving sands get.

by NamedMySonEli on Feb 10, 2012 8:23 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

She was walking into an elevator...

talking to some fat players’ wife (Wolfork?)…Some drunk Giant fan gave her the business.
If any female in North America that is the Golden Boy’s wife, and should have more common sense,the reality is you would think it would be her! The woman is a runway model, quite use
to the flashbulbs and the media, etc.

Ricky Williams retired....Cue up Bob Marley,
"Excuse me while I light my spliff"...

by Great Gatsby on Feb 10, 2012 8:49 AM EST up reply actions  

We all let down our guard when we think things are private

It was also a very stressful moment for her, we heard her anger, 75% of the media agreed with her

I think she might be more interesting than Joe Buck

Eli is our King!

by trueblue63 on Feb 10, 2012 9:18 AM EST up reply actions  

everyone

is more interesting than Joe Buck.

by Nick Dapito on Feb 10, 2012 9:53 AM EST via Android app up reply actions  

Noted

I got a GIF for that!
Giants by 17 over GB, take it to the bank!
Giants by 10 over SF, take it to the bank! Well, OK, by 3, but we are Super Bowl bound!!!!!!!
Giants will score 30 (correction 21 (damn FG's/failed 2 pt conversion)) or more points, NE 20 or less. Guess who wins? Take it to the bank!

by Fester McDougal on Feb 10, 2012 9:53 AM EST up reply actions  

everyTHING

is more interesting that Joe Buck. Coffee is definitely better at keeping me awake.

by soulless chimney on Feb 10, 2012 9:54 AM EST up reply actions  

Ok me too noted.

This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.

by BB1156 on Feb 10, 2012 10:13 PM EST up reply actions  

BB was right

VC and HN are the most reliable, dangerous WRs.

It shows how impt it is to make sure if we do lose MM that we get a good replacement. It will be difficult for any team to cover the Giant WRs so long as we have a decent/good 3rd.

A good TE would make it better.

All the Giants should play like Mark Bavaro.
TQ, DD and KMac Must Go!
TC, PF, KG, will stay but should go for the long term good.
It is equally worthless when people are always optimistic or always pessimistic. Either way I take their opinion with a pound of salt because I know they only have one setting. I post my own thoughts, not what either side wants to read.

by UnknownJintsFan on Feb 10, 2012 8:30 AM EST reply actions  

He was right!

I just watched some of the game again, especially the Patriots drive that ended with the the punt and then the Giants touchdown drive in the fourth quarter again.

The Patriots game plan was terrific. They stopped the Giants frequently throughout the game because when it got third down, taking away Cruz and Nicks was preventing the Giants from doing what they did so well in the 5 games coming into the Superbowl.

Not only did it work all game, but it was actually working during that final drive. The first catch was just a flat out great throw by Eli, and of the three wide receivers, you would always prefer for it to be Manningham under it rather than Cruz or Nicks. It’s not like Manningham was wide open on that play. If you are a coach, you put your team in a position to have the best odds to succeed, but sometimes, having the best odds doesn’t mean you will still win the matchup.

Only a play or two later, Eli through to Manningham again, who was in excellent position to pick up another 20 yards on the back shoulder throw, but instead, Manningham just kept running down the field. Collinsworth pointed out the mistake, and then the cameras showed a top notch replay of Eli making a serious stink-face in the direction of Manningham for whatever it was he did wrong.

He’s a very dangerous receiver, but unlike Cruz, who went from mistake prone to solid in a single season, Manningham has been around a long time to STILL not be on the same page as his quarterback.

Of course, shortly after that missed play, Eli hit him again for a big gain, because that is what the Patriots were leaving for the Giants to do.

Having said all that, I don’t think the Giants will give Manningham a competitive offer, given what he will probably get from somebody else. There are many quality wide receivers available in free agency this year, and I think they could replace him in a heartbeat if they wanted to do so.

by JTMacc on Feb 10, 2012 8:56 AM EST up reply actions  

Noted.

This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.

by BB1156 on Feb 10, 2012 10:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Regarding the BB "make them go to Manningham" thing...

He should have said…“Don’t let them score any points” because if he told them that then they could have won. I’m smarter than him!

Ochocinco could have saved a ton of money if he didn't buy his team mates "Beats by Dre" because they all ended up getting "Beat by Giants"...FOR FREE!!

by nywins46 on Feb 10, 2012 8:41 AM EST reply actions  

If the DC position opens up, please submit your resume as you are a genius

If the HC position opens, I intend to wow them with my game plan of scoring one or more points then the opponent at the expiration of regulation….

I got a GIF for that!
Giants by 17 over GB, take it to the bank!
Giants by 10 over SF, take it to the bank! Well, OK, by 3, but we are Super Bowl bound!!!!!!!
Giants will score 30 (correction 21 (damn FG's/failed 2 pt conversion)) or more points, NE 20 or less. Guess who wins? Take it to the bank!

by Fester McDougal on Feb 10, 2012 9:01 AM EST up reply actions  

If you get a HC job you promise to hire me as DC...

and If I get a DC job I will sabotage my team so the HC gets fired and you can swoop in and lead a brilliant Super Bowl run.

Ochocinco could have saved a ton of money if he didn't buy his team mates "Beats by Dre" because they all ended up getting "Beat by Giants"...FOR FREE!!

by nywins46 on Feb 10, 2012 9:15 AM EST up reply actions  

Dibs on special teams

I HAVE to be better than Quinn

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by DavidE on Feb 10, 2012 9:28 AM EST up reply actions  

a blind monkey

is better than quinn

Faith is a refusal to panic

BB1156, Bobbiblue: I respect you two.

by Commander Prime on Feb 10, 2012 6:49 PM EST via Android app up reply actions  

I really appreciate your sig..I'm honored...Thanks CP...

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by Bobbiblue on Feb 10, 2012 9:16 PM EST up reply actions  

How Do I put a link up?

Why is Tom Quinn still here? I loves me some Coach Clawfin.

by costanza! on Feb 10, 2012 8:44 AM EST reply actions  

reach between your legs, grab your shank and lift

Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows

by Rorschach44 on Feb 10, 2012 8:47 AM EST up reply actions  

Hahahahaha!!!! I Know how to do that!!!

I’m a pro

Why is Tom Quinn still here? I loves me some Coach Clawfin.

by costanza! on Feb 10, 2012 8:48 AM EST up reply actions  

First ballot HOF LOCK!

Ochocinco could have saved a ton of money if he didn't buy his team mates "Beats by Dre" because they all ended up getting "Beat by Giants"...FOR FREE!!

by nywins46 on Feb 10, 2012 8:50 AM EST up reply actions  

click the chain next to the tree and copy the URL into the window

You have to type something in between the >< to be highlighted

Ochocinco could have saved a ton of money if he didn't buy his team mates "Beats by Dre" because they all ended up getting "Beat by Giants"...FOR FREE!!

by nywins46 on Feb 10, 2012 8:49 AM EST up reply actions  

Fn Computer

I am Dumb and tupid Torry

Why is Tom Quinn still here? I loves me some Coach Clawfin.

by costanza! on Feb 10, 2012 8:52 AM EST up reply actions  

Did you get it?

Ochocinco could have saved a ton of money if he didn't buy his team mates "Beats by Dre" because they all ended up getting "Beat by Giants"...FOR FREE!!

by nywins46 on Feb 10, 2012 8:53 AM EST up reply actions  

No I put in the Box" Giggle" and just stupid shite comes out

Why is Tom Quinn still here? I loves me some Coach Clawfin.

by costanza! on Feb 10, 2012 8:54 AM EST up reply actions  

You have to copy the web addess into the box that pops up...

When the script appears in the comment area you will see something like this

href=“http://www.nfl.com” >><

Ochocinco could have saved a ton of money if he didn't buy his team mates "Beats by Dre" because they all ended up getting "Beat by Giants"...FOR FREE!!

by nywins46 on Feb 10, 2012 8:58 AM EST up reply actions  

I will try

Why is Tom Quinn still here? I loves me some Coach Clawfin.

by costanza! on Feb 10, 2012 9:01 AM EST up reply actions  

It shows up before I post and then will not Fugazi!!!!

Why is Tom Quinn still here? I loves me some Coach Clawfin.

by costanza! on Feb 10, 2012 9:01 AM EST up reply actions  

What happens when you click the chain?

Ochocinco could have saved a ton of money if he didn't buy his team mates "Beats by Dre" because they all ended up getting "Beat by Giants"...FOR FREE!!

by nywins46 on Feb 10, 2012 9:02 AM EST up reply actions  

I am sure a scream occurs

when you click the chain

I got a GIF for that!
Giants by 17 over GB, take it to the bank!
Giants by 10 over SF, take it to the bank! Well, OK, by 3, but we are Super Bowl bound!!!!!!!
Giants will score 30 (correction 21 (damn FG's/failed 2 pt conversion)) or more points, NE 20 or less. Guess who wins? Take it to the bank!

by Fester McDougal on Feb 10, 2012 9:03 AM EST up reply actions  

ha

Ochocinco could have saved a ton of money if he didn't buy his team mates "Beats by Dre" because they all ended up getting "Beat by Giants"...FOR FREE!!

by nywins46 on Feb 10, 2012 9:04 AM EST up reply actions  

nywins42 could have done this

Ochocinco could have saved a ton of money if he didn't buy his team mates "Beats by Dre" because they all ended up getting "Beat by Giants"...FOR FREE!!

by nywins46 on Feb 10, 2012 9:01 AM EST up reply actions  

When you post

There is a chain link symbol, second from the right below the title. Click and paste.

All the Giants should play like Mark Bavaro.
TQ, DD and KMac Must Go!
TC, PF, KG, will stay but should go for the long term good.
It is equally worthless when people are always optimistic or always pessimistic. Either way I take their opinion with a pound of salt because I know they only have one setting. I post my own thoughts, not what either side wants to read.

by UnknownJintsFan on Feb 10, 2012 8:54 AM EST up reply actions  

This is what I get

Why is Tom Quinn still here? I loves me some Coach Clawfin.

by costanza! on Feb 10, 2012 8:56 AM EST up reply actions  

That worked...the link took me to YouTube

Ochocinco could have saved a ton of money if he didn't buy his team mates "Beats by Dre" because they all ended up getting "Beat by Giants"...FOR FREE!!

by nywins46 on Feb 10, 2012 9:03 AM EST up reply actions  

Got it!!!!!!

Thanks Smart people for helping my Dumb ass Oh and you to 46 LOL!!!

Why is Tom Quinn still here? I loves me some Coach Clawfin.

by costanza! on Feb 10, 2012 9:03 AM EST up reply actions  

Ha...

Ochocinco could have saved a ton of money if he didn't buy his team mates "Beats by Dre" because they all ended up getting "Beat by Giants"...FOR FREE!!

by nywins46 on Feb 10, 2012 9:04 AM EST up reply actions  

LOL!!! you know I heart you.

Why is Tom Quinn still here? I loves me some Coach Clawfin.

by costanza! on Feb 10, 2012 9:06 AM EST up reply actions  

HA

Ochocinco could have saved a ton of money if he didn't buy his team mates "Beats by Dre" because they all ended up getting "Beat by Giants"...FOR FREE!!

by nywins46 on Feb 10, 2012 9:13 AM EST up reply actions  

haha

This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.

by BB1156 on Feb 10, 2012 10:22 PM EST up reply actions  

I like how

you can almost see Cruz staring at his feet and fidgeting as he talks about being underpaid. “Yeah…. you know… its sort of like… I played pretty good you know…. soooooo I think maybe you know…. if its not too much trouble…”.

Obviously they have to pay him, but I hope they do something realistic. If he’s looking for #1 money he’s going to put JR in a tight spot. I love Cruz and he’s basically the prototype for a player you want to see play his whole career in NY, but after one good year playing opposite Nicks I just hope he and his agent have their expectations under control.

by Oppenheimer919 on Feb 10, 2012 8:47 AM EST reply actions  

he's a bit insecure about it right now

because some of the media are being used douche canisters to him about the issue.

I really feel for him, it’s getting to the point where some of them are belittling him, to the point where I’d knock them out cold if they were within arms reach. The way the media treats him is disgusting.

btw I watched an interview with Victor and the contract came up….yeah you were right, fidgeting and all lol

Faith is a refusal to panic

BB1156, Bobbiblue: I respect you two.

by Commander Prime on Feb 10, 2012 6:54 PM EST via Android app up reply actions  

9/11 was too serious an event for a license plate

That dude is way off base.

Commerative license plates are a way for the state to make a few more bucks and/or raise money for charities. It’s an appropriate way to mark events like sports victories. It’s not the right way to remember the victims of 9/11 any more than the tchotchkes they sell around GZ are.

Blue is the color of melancholy and honesty
Green is the color of inexperience, envy and nausea.

by roguetrader on Feb 10, 2012 8:49 AM EST reply actions  

I never looked at it like that...I agree

Ochocinco could have saved a ton of money if he didn't buy his team mates "Beats by Dre" because they all ended up getting "Beat by Giants"...FOR FREE!!

by nywins46 on Feb 10, 2012 8:52 AM EST up reply actions  

+1

Exactly what I was thinking. The plates are a money-making venture, more like t-shirts or silicon bracelets than anything else. That guy has either made 9/11 plates his personal crusade or he’s an Eagles fan.

by JTMacc on Feb 10, 2012 9:00 AM EST up reply actions  

Nah

Just another grandstanding politician trying to benefit his rep by exploiting an American tragedy. Just another small-town Rudy.

by Budbear on Feb 10, 2012 10:50 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm not a fan of Giselle

but I’m going to play Devil’s advocate here.

Being a model sucks. Its not a fun job and you also are messing up your health and body in the process.

And to those making fun of it, probably should stop oggling those same models or women period.

Giselle was defending Tom and it was cool she was upset and backing him up.

BJ was just running his mouth. This had NOTHING to do with him.

My Wife is a Patriot's fan...
"Giants rely on fumbles and stripping the ball. If the pats secure the ball, then the pats win, but if they fumble or let the ball get striped than the giants win. every game the giants play they always benefit from the other teams bonehead mistakes (fumbled or striped) not from thier skills. The giants are a dirty team, I can’t think of any othe team as dirty as the giants. They try to strip the ball as hard as they can because they know they can’t win a fair game." by EaglesNeedD on Jan 23, 2012 2:01 AM EST

by Giantssincesix on Feb 10, 2012 8:51 AM EST reply actions  

Nobody is forcing anyone to do anything they don't want to do...

No models are slaves. No football players are slaves.

Ochocinco could have saved a ton of money if he didn't buy his team mates "Beats by Dre" because they all ended up getting "Beat by Giants"...FOR FREE!!

by nywins46 on Feb 10, 2012 8:53 AM EST up reply actions  

I agree

I’m basically responding to some of the ignorant and hypocritical comments.

My Wife is a Patriot's fan...
"Giants rely on fumbles and stripping the ball. If the pats secure the ball, then the pats win, but if they fumble or let the ball get striped than the giants win. every game the giants play they always benefit from the other teams bonehead mistakes (fumbled or striped) not from thier skills. The giants are a dirty team, I can’t think of any othe team as dirty as the giants. They try to strip the ball as hard as they can because they know they can’t win a fair game." by EaglesNeedD on Jan 23, 2012 2:01 AM EST

by Giantssincesix on Feb 10, 2012 8:57 AM EST up reply actions  

Just saw this...agreed
BJ was just running his mouth. This had NOTHING to do with him.

Ochocinco could have saved a ton of money if he didn't buy his team mates "Beats by Dre" because they all ended up getting "Beat by Giants"...FOR FREE!!

by nywins46 on Feb 10, 2012 9:01 AM EST up reply actions  

Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

“Being a model sucks. Its not a fun job and you also are messing up your health and body in the process.”

Why is Tom Quinn still here? I loves me some Coach Clawfin.

by costanza! on Feb 10, 2012 8:53 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

damn that does make it sound rough

plus you have to lay in uncomfortable positions for like, 20 minutes sometimes!

by Plaxico Burress on Feb 10, 2012 9:02 AM EST up reply actions  

No wonder they call them Super

Why is Tom Quinn still here? I loves me some Coach Clawfin.

by costanza! on Feb 10, 2012 9:07 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm holding out for a Super-duper model

Ochocinco could have saved a ton of money if he didn't buy his team mates "Beats by Dre" because they all ended up getting "Beat by Giants"...FOR FREE!!

by nywins46 on Feb 10, 2012 9:09 AM EST up reply actions  

ha

New York Giants 2011 Super Bowl Champions = FACT
The NFL will now FEAR THE LOWERCASE ny

by The Always Well Dressed... on Feb 10, 2012 10:24 AM EST up reply actions  

This is a blantant violation of their human rights!!!

Call in the UN…so they can ignore everything.

Ochocinco could have saved a ton of money if he didn't buy his team mates "Beats by Dre" because they all ended up getting "Beat by Giants"...FOR FREE!!

by nywins46 on Feb 10, 2012 9:08 AM EST up reply actions  

Hahahahah!!!!

The best organization for the Job not to get done

Why is Tom Quinn still here? I loves me some Coach Clawfin.

by costanza! on Feb 10, 2012 9:09 AM EST up reply actions  

Jacobs should be happy Tom didn't say something about his wife

cuz from what I seen, she’s, not very easy on the eyes…IMO

I got banned from Jests Blog for saying Chad Henne has better stats than Mark Sanchez. And they think they're the big brothers in this town? LMAO try again little sisters!

Let's Go Giants!!!!

by maculis on Feb 10, 2012 8:56 AM EST up reply actions  

The difference is that BJ would beat the living hell out of TB

thereafter

I got a GIF for that!
Giants by 17 over GB, take it to the bank!
Giants by 10 over SF, take it to the bank! Well, OK, by 3, but we are Super Bowl bound!!!!!!!
Giants will score 30 (correction 21 (damn FG's/failed 2 pt conversion)) or more points, NE 20 or less. Guess who wins? Take it to the bank!

by Fester McDougal on Feb 10, 2012 9:04 AM EST up reply actions  

This

This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.

by BB1156 on Feb 10, 2012 10:25 PM EST up reply actions  

true...

Ochocinco could have saved a ton of money if he didn't buy his team mates "Beats by Dre" because they all ended up getting "Beat by Giants"...FOR FREE!!

by nywins46 on Feb 10, 2012 9:05 AM EST up reply actions  

agreed

Mrs Jacobs ain’t no Abby Manning, but she’s not some troll or anything.

by Nick Dapito on Feb 10, 2012 10:58 AM EST via Android app up reply actions  

I know...I'm trying to edit but I can't

HELP! I think he’s already here because someone is doing a TD Dry Hump Dance on my front door.

I got banned from Jests Blog for saying Chad Henne has better stats than Mark Sanchez. And they think they're the big brothers in this town? LMAO try again little sisters!

Let's Go Giants!!!!

by maculis on Feb 10, 2012 5:03 PM EST up reply actions  

On Victor Cruz

He absolutely, positively deserves a raise. But don’t talk about it publicly. Don’t try to back the GMen’s FO into a corner, they don’t respond well that way. They’ll give him the money, and it’ll be before he becomes a FA, but don’t make the fans start picking sides…which is exactly what’s happening now. Tuck never spoke about a contract publicly. Eli either. But Osi has, and how has that worked out for him. Let your agent handle that, and deflect the question when it’s asked to you.

I got banned from Jests Blog for saying Chad Henne has better stats than Mark Sanchez. And they think they're the big brothers in this town? LMAO try again little sisters!

Let's Go Giants!!!!

by maculis on Feb 10, 2012 9:00 AM EST reply actions  

I agree...

Plus, all Giants players should be very aware that their hero status is one knee injury away from getting them put on IR by the Eagles.

Ochocinco could have saved a ton of money if he didn't buy his team mates "Beats by Dre" because they all ended up getting "Beat by Giants"...FOR FREE!!

by nywins46 on Feb 10, 2012 9:07 AM EST up reply actions  

Which is why he wants his money now!

Blue is the color of melancholy and honesty
Green is the color of inexperience, envy and nausea.

by roguetrader on Feb 10, 2012 9:11 AM EST up reply actions  

True...very true

Ochocinco could have saved a ton of money if he didn't buy his team mates "Beats by Dre" because they all ended up getting "Beat by Giants"...FOR FREE!!

by nywins46 on Feb 10, 2012 9:12 AM EST up reply actions  

Hey JG Wentworth

Calm down!!!

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by DavidE on Feb 10, 2012 9:12 AM EST up reply actions  

Oh...now that's funny

Ochocinco could have saved a ton of money if he didn't buy his team mates "Beats by Dre" because they all ended up getting "Beat by Giants"...FOR FREE!!

by nywins46 on Feb 10, 2012 9:13 AM EST up reply actions  

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Why is Tom Quinn still here? I loves me some Coach Clawfin.

by costanza! on Feb 10, 2012 9:23 AM EST up reply actions  

Well, that was awkward

I got a GIF for that!
Giants by 17 over GB, take it to the bank!
Giants by 10 over SF, take it to the bank! Well, OK, by 3, but we are Super Bowl bound!!!!!!!
Giants will score 30 (correction 21 (damn FG's/failed 2 pt conversion)) or more points, NE 20 or less. Guess who wins? Take it to the bank!

by Fester McDougal on Feb 10, 2012 9:25 AM EST up reply actions  

Hahahah Brady got the "Jerk" syndrome.

Why is Tom Quinn still here? I loves me some Coach Clawfin.

by costanza! on Feb 10, 2012 9:33 AM EST up reply actions  

ha

New York Giants 2011 Super Bowl Champions = FACT
The NFL will now FEAR THE LOWERCASE ny

by The Always Well Dressed... on Feb 10, 2012 10:25 AM EST up reply actions  

on the flip side

he’s also one 37 rec – 742 yds season away from everyone hating on him to. Be humble, and stay working hard. Look at T.O. begging for a chance.

I got banned from Jests Blog for saying Chad Henne has better stats than Mark Sanchez. And they think they're the big brothers in this town? LMAO try again little sisters!

Let's Go Giants!!!!

by maculis on Feb 10, 2012 9:31 AM EST up reply actions  

I think he was asked so he responded

It isn’t like that scene in Mr. Deeds where the Jets QB bursts into the place yelling about his BS contract. He seems contrite and also says that his agents will take care of it…he’s just going to focus on football. He has the right attitude, so I think more of a big deal is being made of this than it ought.

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by DavidE on Feb 10, 2012 9:10 AM EST up reply actions  

because it's everywhere now

its on every sports show, every website…and the more it’s out there, the more people will ask questions about it.

I got banned from Jests Blog for saying Chad Henne has better stats than Mark Sanchez. And they think they're the big brothers in this town? LMAO try again little sisters!

Let's Go Giants!!!!

by maculis on Feb 10, 2012 9:33 AM EST up reply actions  

Exactly

Just the media blowing things out of proportion. Like the whole Eli Elite thing…which proved true I might add

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by DavidE on Feb 10, 2012 9:35 AM EST up reply actions  

who cares that it is everywhere

the media needs something to write about because football is done. Its gonna be news that a huge breakout player that makes very little money wants…. more money. So what that Yahoo, PFT, etc. have articles and comments about him, comparing him to DeSean…. who cares?

New York Giants 2011 Super Bowl Champions = FACT
The NFL will now FEAR THE LOWERCASE ny

by The Always Well Dressed... on Feb 10, 2012 10:30 AM EST up reply actions  

I'd also argue that Cruz seems like a Ray Rice kinda guy

Where even though he isn’t being paid big bucks, would still let his play on the field speak for him in terms of getting a contract.

Oh, and Rice BTW made only $600K last year.

However, I do think Cruz could’ve learned from what Ray said:

It’s exciting because I feel like I’ve done everything that I had to do to put myself in the situation that I don’t control, it’s in the next man’s hands. I pray about it, do everything that I can. When you put yourself in a good position, in a position where you can sit back and say whatever happens, you really don’t want to put a price on it.

Whatever they do, it’s going to be more than I’ve ever had. There was a reason why I never brought my contract situation into that locker room because I wanted to play the game for the love of the game and my teammates. I think we’ll get it done. There’s no doubt that I’ll be here next year.

And notice, Rice implies here that he’s due more money. Just never explicitly said so.

"The Giants goal is to win more championships than the Jets have curtains." - Raptor22

by jcheng on Feb 10, 2012 9:37 AM EST up reply actions  

Cruz never got much media exposure before

Some of his comments read to me like the kind of things a guy who hasn’t gotten the hang of dealing with reporters’ attempts to trap you into a concrete answer would say.

Ray Rice is a good kid. I had friends who knew him in high school, but I was too busy being a Serious Art Student to pay attention to anything athletic.

by soulless chimney on Feb 10, 2012 9:46 AM EST up reply actions  

Tha black and white version is he did talk about it publicly

but, read the manner and watch how he did it.
He did not want to. He answered the question because he was asked. He was obviously raised to answer a question when asked.

If he OchoCinco’d it fine.
If he TO’d it fine.

He did not.

It is better to be silent and be thought a fool, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt.

by SNORKIS on Feb 10, 2012 10:10 AM EST up reply actions  

But he's on the NY Giants.

I’m sure they’ve told him to watch what he says to the media a ton of times.

by dizzrock on Feb 10, 2012 6:22 PM EST up reply actions  

If he doesnt't get his money.

This will be a test. Test of his ability (one hit wonder?) and his character (diva?). If he produces, like he did this year, then he’s in for a bigger payday next year. He’ll even get more offers from other teams.

by dizzrock on Feb 10, 2012 6:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Pay the man...

First, Cruz was point-blank asked what he thought about his contract. He’s young, so he may not have thought out the ramifications of saying “I think I need to be paid more”, though he was honest in saying “I don’t think I was underpaid this year”.

And I agree – JR shouldn’t lock him in with a multi-year #1WR type contract – but add a bonus perhaps this year plus incentive dollars for next before bringing in big-dollar #1/#2 WR contracts when he’s ready for free agency.

"The Giants goal is to win more championships than the Jets have curtains." - Raptor22

by jcheng on Feb 10, 2012 9:30 AM EST reply actions  

problem is

I think he’s gonna want Miles Austin money

I got banned from Jests Blog for saying Chad Henne has better stats than Mark Sanchez. And they think they're the big brothers in this town? LMAO try again little sisters!

Let's Go Giants!!!!

by maculis on Feb 10, 2012 9:34 AM EST up reply actions  

And if he performs just as well next year, I'd say he's earned it.

Especially since Austin had two years in before getting paid for the big contract (signed 2010, paid 2011). Arguably, Cruz has had only one, and JR can point to that if Cruz complains about not getting big bucks up-front.

However, I think JR is smart enough to structure something that keeps Cruz around and doesn’t break the bank in an Albert Haynesworth-fashion.

"The Giants goal is to win more championships than the Jets have curtains." - Raptor22

by jcheng on Feb 10, 2012 9:43 AM EST up reply actions  

Because he said he outplayed his current contract

I defy you to find a quote that says he thinks he deserves top 5 or top 10 money

Eli is our King!

by trueblue63 on Feb 10, 2012 9:44 AM EST up reply actions  

How about NIcks? When is his contract up?

I’m sure Nicks is wanting a big payday too but he’s not telling the media he deserves it. I agree with the payday but not how VC is talking about it.

by dizzrock on Feb 10, 2012 6:24 PM EST up reply actions  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1JCMFWDW4U

Why is Tom Quinn still here? I loves me some Coach Clawfin.

by costanza! on Feb 10, 2012 9:30 AM EST reply actions  

According to wiki

a single cruise missile costs about $830,000, so he should be making at least that much I would think.

by rzor on Feb 10, 2012 9:31 AM EST reply actions  

While I think Cruz deserves a big pay day and should be locked in long term

I would have preferred that all of the conversations be in private. No need to go public at this point, it only muddies the waters.

All the Giants should play like Mark Bavaro.
TQ, DD and KMac Must Go!
TC, PF, KG, will stay but should go for the long term good.
It is equally worthless when people are always optimistic or always pessimistic. Either way I take their opinion with a pound of salt because I know they only have one setting. I post my own thoughts, not what either side wants to read.

by UnknownJintsFan on Feb 10, 2012 9:37 AM EST reply actions  

He didn't ask for a new contract

He said he outplayed his current contract

That’s indisputable, it’s only muddy waters if you let the media reframe his words

Eli is our King!

by trueblue63 on Feb 10, 2012 9:43 AM EST up reply actions  

They will give him a performance bonus this year and lock him up next year

when the cap space is better.

I got a GIF for that!
Giants by 17 over GB, take it to the bank!
Giants by 10 over SF, take it to the bank! Well, OK, by 3, but we are Super Bowl bound!!!!!!!
Giants will score 30 (correction 21 (damn FG's/failed 2 pt conversion)) or more points, NE 20 or less. Guess who wins? Take it to the bank!

by Fester McDougal on Feb 10, 2012 9:52 AM EST up reply actions  

Pay Cruz

He gave our franchise a shot in the arm when we needed it the most.

Heck he deserves a pay raise for what he did to the J-E-T-S alone.

Also I hope the Giants can work something out with Osi, Super Mario and Brandon.

by John W on Feb 10, 2012 10:11 AM EST reply actions  

Pay Cruz, when it makes sense for the team

Probably not this year, but he is under contract and got paid last year for 0 catches. Our cap may be too tight and he may have to prove it 1 more year.

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