Giants Vs. Falcons, Pro Football Focus Review
by Ed Valentine on Jan 9, 2012 3:56 PM EST
in New York Giants News
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PrintWe have done it all season, so we might as well keep right on doing the weekly Pro Football Focus review of the Giants' performance, this time in the 24-2 thrashing of the Atlanta Falcons in a Wild-Card playoff game. I know none of this raeally matters -- only the 'W' is important, but let's go through it, anyway.
OFFENSE
Eli Manning (+4.3)
Jake Ballard (+2.6)
Hakeem Nicks (+2.1)
Ahmad Bradshaw (+2.0)
Mario Manningham (+1.8)
Brandon Jacobs (+1.7)
David Diehl (+1.4) ... PFF notes that this is the first time Diehl has graded positively while playing tackle this season.
Danny Ware (-1.2)
Victor Cruz (-1.7)
Chris Snee (-3.7)
Kareem McKenzie (-5.6)
DEFENSE
Justin Tuck (+3.2)
Chris Canty (+2.6)
Chase Blackburn (+1.9)
Corey Webster (+1.7)
Jason Pierre-Paul (+1.5)
Rocky Bernard (+1.5)
Jacquian Williams (+1.1)
Dave Tollefson (-1.6)
Here is PFF on the Giants' defense:
"The greatest parallel being drawn between the current Giants and their last Superbowl victory is the form of their defensive line at a crucial moment. The similarities are striking and that they were able to get contributions from as far down the depth chart as Rocky Bernard (+1.5) shows how dangerous this unit is."
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kareem and snee
are you kidding me? thats a joke…. there were GAPING holes on the right side ALL DAY.
by The Blood of Eli on Jan 9, 2012 3:59 PM EST reply actions
ehh, I can see if they gave hima -10.0 in the first half, and a +5.0 in the 2nd haha
I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.
by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 9, 2012 4:00 PM EST up reply actions
McKenzie has been such a dissapointment this year
I wonder if we’re gonna hear he’s been playing through injuries or something… I know he’s old and last year was a career year, but to go from a top 5 to bottom 5 tackle in one year is alarming.
McKenzie gave up the 2 points
I am a fan of Kevin Gilbride and I don't care what you say
by Spider Lockhart on Jan 9, 2012 4:21 PM EST up reply actions
Nope Mckenzie had his man...it was corner blitzing
what do u expect of a man to block the entire defense….
I think McKenzie should have been able to hit the corner blitz
He and Snee were doubling the Tackle
I am a fan of Kevin Gilbride and I don't care what you say
by Spider Lockhart on Jan 9, 2012 4:24 PM EST up reply actions
Blitz
If Eli stepped up into the pocket rather then trying to outrun J Sanders on that blitz, there would have been no 2 points…
not that it matters but...
it was a safety blitz
Talk is Cheap! Play the Game!
You can't spell Elite without ELI.
Dilfer made the point
That Eli didn’t trust the protection and tried to get out of there, but if he had just stepped up into the pocket he would have been safe. Prolly the only mistake Eli made all day.
"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning
Yes Okay I take it back you are right
Eli would have been fine if he had stepped into the pocket. There was a good pocket.
I am a fan of Kevin Gilbride and I don't care what you say
by Spider Lockhart on Jan 9, 2012 4:28 PM EST up reply actions
Dilfer's right
I was yelling at Big Mac during the game – ha ha
"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning
Agreed
Only Bomar could have made the scramble outside for the 90 yard bootleg
I got a GIF for that!
by Fester McDougal on Jan 9, 2012 4:44 PM EST up reply actions
Heap, that Safety was on Eli
But Kareem was getting his numbers on his jersey spun all day.
by Teambigblue on Jan 9, 2012 4:47 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Eli had a clean pocket
he stepped right into the blitz, it was #10’s fault.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
I am surprised too
You have to wonder if he is hiding an injury….hmmmm.
All the Giants should play like Mark Bavaro.
TC, TQ, PF, KG, DD and KMac Must Go!
It is equally worthless when people are always optimistic or always pessimistic. Either way I take their opinion with a pound of salt because I know they only have one setting. I post my own thoughts, not what either side wants to read.
by UnknownJintsFan on Jan 9, 2012 4:50 PM EST up reply actions
If nobody watched the game and went by these PFF grades, one would think our defense was average.
And it wasn’t, so I’m not sure really what to say.
I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.
by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 9, 2012 3:59 PM EST reply actions
how do you read that?
7 guys with nice positive numbers, 1 guy with a slightly bad number and the rest are average (-1 to +1)… thats a pretty good effort. That shows that 7 of 11 guys on the field had a good game and most of the rest held their own (poor tolly).
that looks a good team defensive game… and watching the game I agree… no one guy dominated this week (like JPP against the cowboys etc) it was just a good all around effort.
I can see that for the defense, but look at the game for Corey Webster. I would've given him a "PFF
I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.
by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 9, 2012 4:10 PM EST up reply actions
" grade of at least +4.0 given the opponent he's had to face.
I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.
by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 9, 2012 4:11 PM EST up reply actions
i dont think they account for "quality of opponent"
its simply how good a play did the player make for every single play. I agree i wouldve expected websters number to be higher, but i’m not shocked by the +1.7 either… a handfull of Ryans passes were incomplete because he over/underthrew guys.
Also, what you don’t see on TV is routes where Ryan doesn’t throw to websters man… its possible he had White open and didnt see it, thats still a bad play by Webster.
In all +1.7 is a nice game, i thought it’d be +2.5 or so, but I don’t get to watch him on every specific play so I’ll take their word for it. Its not shocking to me at all…
I guess. though they see what we see...they don't have the ALL 22 film, so idk what they could be judging him by....
I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.
by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 9, 2012 4:34 PM EST up reply actions
they give Owens a +3.3 and say...
Franks played every snap, moving to the slot for Owens out wide when the Falcons went to nickel and it was Owens on the field in those nickel sets who had the better game of the two. Owens got his hand to two passes to cause incompletions whilst Franks’ most positive contribution was a hit he delivered on a blitz at the 6:40 mark in the second quarter.
so….2 PDs = +3.3 when your name is Owens and 2 PDs = +1.7 when your are Webster.
I’m not saying their method is THAT Simple…but they don’t elaborate AT ALL other than “got his hands on 2 passes”.
Fire Fewell
and if getting a +3 is due to your teammate sucking....
than Webster should pull +3 every week.
Fire Fewell
....
+23
I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.
by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 9, 2012 4:36 PM EST up reply actions
Ross gave a schucks look at this comment.
+1
by Teambigblue on Jan 9, 2012 4:44 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
yup
I made this comment yesterday, CWeb is worth EVERY PENNY we pay him. He may be the most underated player in the league let alone CB.
Talk is Cheap! Play the Game!
You can't spell Elite without ELI.
I wouldn't put too much effort into trying to understand them....
I gave up a while ago….
Fire Fewell
Falcons Offensive Numbers
I think if we were to compare the Falcons’ offensive numbers versus the Giants defensive numbers a more complete tale would be told…
Good stuff, but
Bradshaw had higher rating than Jacobs. Most of been those two key catches, but still.
off topic and not really related to this post...
but when i hear our players telling Brandon Jacobs: "’Keep running it big back because there’s nothing they can do to you. Trust me, we play defense, they don’t want to hit you.’"
I think that the Giants should try to get Jacobs more reps earlier in the game….
Fire Fewell
give the Juggernaut the ball!
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
set the tone
F the damn screen passes and whatever the hell else they were trying to do early last game!
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
exactly
as long as he has a hole to pick up speed through, guys at the 2nd level will take a beating all game long… that stuff adds up possession after possession of BJ smashing you in the face at full speed…. its all on the o line tho they have to allow him to make big hits on LBs and DBs…. keep the d line off of him.
by The Blood of Eli on Jan 9, 2012 4:08 PM EST up reply actions
running game
Notice the moment booth and petrus came in the game running lanes opened the F up?
by wrxsti28 on Jan 9, 2012 7:31 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
i did notice that
Petrus was getting incredible push off the snap. he was further upfield (& faster) than any of our other lineman. I cant help but think that despite some of the bad snaps by Boothe, the combination of he & Petrus are more productive than he & Baas.
Talk is Cheap! Play the Game!
You can't spell Elite without ELI.
as much as we all thought, and as much as the giants wanted him to be
ahmad is not our #1 back. ive said it all along… brandon jacobs is the heart of the offense, he sets the tone, hes the vocal leader, guys respect him in our locker room, and defenses fear him.
by The Blood of Eli on Jan 9, 2012 4:07 PM EST up reply actions
when he decides to play angry
if he’s in the mood to break tackles and work for every inch he’s a great, emotional player… in the other games he’s slow and almost useless… I know for the rest of the playoffs he’s going to produce, but to start next year idk what we’d get out of him again.
well next year is next year
i agree… he should not be our #1 going into the season next year… but next week, HELL YEAH he should be
by The Blood of Eli on Jan 9, 2012 4:09 PM EST up reply actions
diagree
all last yr teams went into the game, game-planning for AB.
REC. AB
BLOCKING. AB
RUNNING. AB
PAIN INFLICTED. BJ
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
Giant LB'zz SUCK!! Mark Herzlich, Jacquian Williams,...Maybe .. Sadly this has been modified.
i just dont see AB running like he did last year
not during this season and not now…
by The Blood of Eli on Jan 9, 2012 4:12 PM EST up reply actions
those ankle injuries are catching up to him
by The Blood of Eli on Jan 9, 2012 4:12 PM EST up reply actions
If agree, plus the line is not playing all that well
I think it is a combination of things.
by Exiled in Missouri on Jan 9, 2012 4:54 PM EST up reply actions
that can be said about all our backs
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
Giant LB'zz SUCK!! Mark Herzlich, Jacquian Williams,...Maybe .. Sadly this has been modified.
but jacobs is having the best stretch i can remember him having in a long time
by The Blood of Eli on Jan 9, 2012 4:13 PM EST up reply actions
thats true .
cred the Oline.
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
Giant LB'zz SUCK!! Mark Herzlich, Jacquian Williams,...Maybe .. Sadly this has been modified.
True, but
I also credit the O-Line for why we ranked 32 rushing this year.
by Midnight Blue on Jan 9, 2012 4:57 PM EST up reply actions
Bradshaw is our #1 back that's without a doubt
It’s nice what Jacobs did but He hasn’t been a featured back in a long time and I doubt he goes back to one a year from now.
by Teambigblue on Jan 9, 2012 4:42 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I love Jacobs
Favorite guy on the team, never try to hide it. I also am not sure he can be the main back at this time. I do think we will miss him greatly both for production and for his affect on his teammates if we get rid of him next year. I just hope the front office realizes that as well.
by Midnight Blue on Jan 9, 2012 5:03 PM EST up reply actions
I've said this too many times
I’m a big Jacobs fan but I know that he is temperamental. If he feels left out, he gets mopey. He needs to feel that he’s apart of the team and that comes from giving him reps early and throughout the game. Don’t give him seven carries in the first half and shut him out in the second half, which happened last year. This year they’re not putting him on ice for long stretches. With the improved run-blocking, Jacobs is showing his worth.
Team Ghost: Manningham, Sintim, Beckum, Barden, JPP, Anvil, Ross
Tom Coughlin: "Respect all. Fear none."
Nicks was outstanding
Several big plays and some key blocks. Pretty low grade for him, all things considered.
He really impresses me with his blocking.
And it’s not just the wide receiver version of “blocking”, this kid throws blocks. Bradshaw’s big run off the right side was sprung by a great block from Hakeem. Big kudos.
Parcells would have graded the team a -10
and said they were lucky
Getting back to the Refs real quick...
forget the bad spot or the too many men penalty that ATL is crying about.
what about the late hit on JPP on the first play of the game?
or White swinging at Webster?
how can something so egregious go un called
Fire Fewell
well since u brought up officiating
i had to make this point on the most recent page.
This weekend there were 298 pass attempt made by all 8 teams combined. Of those attempts, only 6 holding calls were made ALL WEEKEND. 4 of those were on us. Can someone please try & convince me that we’re the only team in the playoffs that holds?
Talk is Cheap! Play the Game!
You can't spell Elite without ELI.
THIS THIS THIS!
I’d bet money that the Giants are top 5 in holding calls against, and bottom 5 hold called against.
With a great D-line, I refuse to believe that’s true
Self-praise is for losers. Be a winner. Stand for something. Always have class, and be humble.
-John Madden
The Ballard of Jake:
Stop→Slow→Truck→LEAP!
(Adapted from Raptor 22)
It's legal to hold when protecting a QB
Not when you’re opening a hole for a RB
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
Football - It's Beyond an Addiction, It's a Way of Life.
by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16
osi got a nice shove to the back when he was chasing down ryan later in the game too
they really are dirtbags
"I like prime rib, and I'd love to win a Super Bowl" -Andy Reid
Come on man! Bring the defication if you are going to go there...
I got a GIF for that!
by Fester McDougal on Jan 9, 2012 4:49 PM EST up reply actions
why?
I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.
by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 9, 2012 4:49 PM EST up reply actions
Proves my point
You did not even see the Chick is crapping
I got a GIF for that!
by Fester McDougal on Jan 9, 2012 4:51 PM EST up reply actions
of course I did. But that doesn't mean I want to see a rhino's pink anal sphincter spitting out baseballs.
I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.
by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 9, 2012 4:54 PM EST up reply actions
Divisional Playoff Week
You gotta bring the whole enchillada.
I got a GIF for that!
by Fester McDougal on Jan 9, 2012 4:56 PM EST up reply actions
true.
I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.
by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 9, 2012 5:00 PM EST up reply actions
true.
I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.
by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 9, 2012 5:00 PM EST up reply actions
Yup
Everything is gonna be bigger this week!
I got a GIF for that!
by Fester McDougal on Jan 9, 2012 5:02 PM EST up reply actions
Excellent
This is the effort BBV needs this week….
Championship week will be even crazier!
I got a GIF for that!
by Fester McDougal on Jan 9, 2012 5:48 PM EST up reply actions
Theme for the week "Go BIG"
I got a GIF for that!
by Fester McDougal on Jan 9, 2012 5:50 PM EST up reply actions
I like 'em big just like the next guy
but I also like ’em real. Pass.
Team Ghost: Manningham, Sintim, Beckum, Barden, JPP, Anvil, Ross
Tom Coughlin: "Respect all. Fear none."
That girl has two asses!!!..
How the hell???…
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Seems like you stopped it too soon
"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning
Wings and beer
wings and beer
I got a GIF for that!
by Fester McDougal on Jan 9, 2012 5:28 PM EST up reply actions
Did he grade positively in any games at guard?
I can’t remember any.
by G-FANinFL on Jan 9, 2012 4:23 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
David Diehl (+1.4) … PFF notes that this is the first time Diehl has graded positively while playingtacklethis season.
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
Giant LB'zz SUCK!! Mark Herzlich, Jacquian Williams,...Maybe .. Sadly this has been modified.
The fact that Ballard graded so high
is an indication of how well he blocked. He didn’t do much in the pass catching department, and could have caught that one in the end zone (I stop short of calling that a drop), but when you get that kind of run blocking from your tight end, in January no less, you win ball games. Physical New York Giants football, who else missed that shit?!?!
To be fair to Ballard...
Eli was being Football Cop Eli, and meant to throw the ball THROUGH the stadium.
Kudos to Ballard for not having his hands explode.
by Raptor22 on Jan 9, 2012 6:32 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Praise for Chase Blackburn
While he hasn’t dominated he basically got picked off the scrap heap and not only has he been very solid in special teams, but he’s sewn up the MLB position, which was a weak spot all year, very nicely.
by Teambigblue on Jan 9, 2012 4:22 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Yeah said this before
It presents an interesting dilema next spring.
The 4 rooks (Paysinger seems to be ST only), Goff, Sintim back (you can dump the latter I think) plus whomever we draft.
I think Williams and Herz def stay, Jones most likely too. Paysinger, Sintim go. I have top believe that barring unforeseen circumstances, Chase has a very good chance of a roster spot.
Meanwhile, he will be MLB for the playoffs which we hope is more than one more game.
All the Giants should play like Mark Bavaro.
TC, TQ, PF, KG, DD and KMac Must Go!
It is equally worthless when people are always optimistic or always pessimistic. Either way I take their opinion with a pound of salt because I know they only have one setting. I post my own thoughts, not what either side wants to read.
by UnknownJintsFan on Jan 9, 2012 4:48 PM EST up reply actions
Jacobs -- an idea
Maybe Jacobs is only a big game player or end of year player. His style of running may not allow him to do it every weekend, because of the pounding he takes and his emotion. So maybe he should only play 8 to 10 games a year and keep him fresh for the end of the season or big games and then let him go. .
Just a thought.
by GiantFaninColorado on Jan 9, 2012 4:27 PM EST reply actions
Ballard ahead of Nicks -- "Come on man"
by GiantFaninColorado on Jan 9, 2012 4:28 PM EST reply actions
Maybe Nicks got downgraded for his "Dirty Bird"
"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning
Nicks also had a false start penalty.
I’m sure that scored pretty heavily against him.
Yes -5
No make that -10 he isn’t as good as White PFF scores must reflect reality
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
Football - It's Beyond an Addiction, It's a Way of Life.
by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16
Ballard and BJ
Loved the run over the middle by BJ…and how Ballard ran scared when BJ was behind him…
Boothe was pushing BJ from behind…..thats some train coming at you.
Hahaha!..rec'd
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
is that a cowboys hat in the bottom left corner????
Tony Romo, Michael Vick, and Rex Grossman are down with JPP
Die hard Giants fan since I was 4
J-E-T-S Just-End-The-Season
by JasonPierrePwned on Jan 9, 2012 5:23 PM EST up reply actions
I can't tell
It might be NYR.
Team Ghost: Manningham, Sintim, Beckum, Barden, JPP, Anvil, Ross
Tom Coughlin: "Respect all. Fear none."
Question about Diehl
I saw Pat wrote on Friday he could still be out LT next year and move Beatty to RT. I actually had to do work at work on Friday so I didnt see the comments or get to post. Was she serious?? Diehl cant possibly be the LT going into next year can he? I know it’s off topic but………
Stop being interesting with your non-sequator statements.
I got a GIF for that!
by Fester McDougal on Jan 9, 2012 4:49 PM EST up reply actions
No tribble at all.
I got a GIF for that!
by Fester McDougal on Jan 9, 2012 5:35 PM EST up reply actions
I thought it was the other way around
Diehl to RT, Beatty to LT. Which eye was Beatty injured in?
I am a fan of Kevin Gilbride and I don't care what you say
by Spider Lockhart on Jan 9, 2012 4:54 PM EST up reply actions
that would be the logical move
Pat’s argument had nothing to do with his eye, only her inability to comprehend the game of football
the first time I saw this,
I didn’t notice his face…
now I’m imagining him letting out one of those little girl screams
Go Big Blue!
agreed
the crowd was awesome the last 2 weeks. fills me with mass amounts of pride. thanks to all who attended. sadly this is my 1st year in 15 that I was unable to see my guys in live action. so sad the streak ended :::kicks rocks::::
Talk is Cheap! Play the Game!
You can't spell Elite without ELI.
FYI
Giants vs Pack championship game from 07 on nfl network tonight, dvr is set!
by Giant Ken on Jan 9, 2012 4:51 PM EST via mobile reply actions
You need to buy the Blueray
of all the games from the last NE game through the SB. Amazing collection of games to watch during the off week before the SB.
I got a GIF for that!
by Fester McDougal on Jan 9, 2012 4:53 PM EST up reply actions
sorry post error
left off….That includes the last game of the regular season against NE through the SB…Great games to watch on the off week of the SB.
I got a GIF for that!
by Fester McDougal on Jan 9, 2012 4:57 PM EST up reply actions
BCS title game!!!
I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.
by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 9, 2012 4:55 PM EST up reply actions
Watching at a friends house
Then home fot Giants replay! Advantage of moving out west -.games end earlier!
by Giant Ken on Jan 9, 2012 4:56 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
good call!
I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.
by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 9, 2012 5:01 PM EST up reply actions
Goof call on the game
Or moving out west?
by Giant Ken on Jan 9, 2012 5:03 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
both.
I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.
by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 9, 2012 5:05 PM EST up reply actions
Moved in 06 to Phx, AZ
Giants played SB here in 07! Divine intervention!
by Giant Ken on Jan 9, 2012 5:09 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I hope Tynes
Hits the friggin chip shot as the end of regulation this time7
by Giant Ken on Jan 9, 2012 4:55 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Crazy fact
I went to the super bowl that year, and had plans to go all yeat! Amazing that the giants made it! So, when Tynes missef that FG, I was closer to tears than i’d, like to admit!
by Giant Ken on Jan 9, 2012 5:00 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
WTF!!!
I got banned from Jests Blog for saying Chad Henne has better stats than Mark Sanchez. And they think they're the big brothers in this town? LMAO try again little sisters!
Let's Go Giants!!!!
"Woodrow allegedly starting throwing punches before trying to beat his nephew with a frying pan and an umbrella."
an umbrella???
I got a GIF for that!
by Fester McDougal on Jan 9, 2012 5:01 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah you know, Tom Landry's defense
I am a fan of Kevin Gilbride and I don't care what you say
by Spider Lockhart on Jan 9, 2012 5:05 PM EST up reply actions
unfortunately for him...
Denver lost that week so he was stuck actually watching real post game analysis other than All Tebow All the Time TV
Fire Fewell
So sick of tebow
Giants win was so much more impressive, but thats all anyone is talking about
by Giant Ken on Jan 9, 2012 5:11 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Amazingly
Ryan was 3 for 5 on designed QB runs throughout the season.
His sneaks in this game were…. Manning-esque….
Self-praise is for losers. Be a winner. Stand for something. Always have class, and be humble.
-John Madden
The Ballard of Jake:
Stop→Slow→Truck→LEAP!
(Adapted from Raptor 22)
Osi was great on pass defense
Horrible on run defense as usual, I assume. And the other guys were basically invisible, in a good way. Never gave up anything big and did their jobs.
Remember, no score means that they got between -1 and +1 (aka Average).
GIANTS! 2011 NFC East Champs!
Big ups to KG
for staying aggressive in the 4th quarter with the lead .. it only took him 6 years to learn !!
we’ll need to do the same next week .. cause im thinking we have the lead going into the 4th ..
I think having only two healhy backs at the time probably shifted the balance more toward the pass
4th quarter, sitting on a big lead — that is the time to punish the opponent into submission with the running game and chew the clock.
by Step up and make big plays on Jan 9, 2012 10:53 PM EST up reply actions
Difference between Cruz and Ham
Cruz would have went up and caught that long ball at the end of the first half .. Ham waits for the ball to come to him .. The only way he’ll get catches in the NFL is if hes wide open or the qb makes an absolutely perfect pass (like manning did on that TD) ..
I yelled at him on that one
it seemed like he started to stretch out and then pulled his arms back in.
Go Big Blue!
Manningham did go up for the ball
Manningham is a speed WR. That means you have to lead him and let him run under the ball. He had to slow down for the ball, which allowed the DB to knock it away. On the TD, Eli led him and Manningham caught up to it for a perfect pass.
Team Ghost: Manningham, Sintim, Beckum, Barden, JPP, Anvil, Ross
Tom Coughlin: "Respect all. Fear none."
I agree, but MM is quite the athlete
Id love to see him go stronger for the jump balls
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
Football - It's Beyond an Addiction, It's a Way of Life.
by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16
he let that ball get in on his body a bit...
you can literally see his hands clearly below his neck level waiting for the ball to just kinda fall in there.
Just b/c he jumped for it doesn’t mean he couldn’t have extended for it. Which he should have. Not saying he woulda caught it or the DB wouldn’t have made a play on it but you know what I’m saying…
and if it was that far behind you gotta scale it back a bit…heck let the DB run into you and take the PI.
I really don’t get bothered by the miscommunications this year w/ Eli b/c it never really seemed like they got on the same page plus the knee injury was bothering him, plus I haven’t seen the phantom drops that a lot of other BBVers claim to have seen. Sure MM has dropped a pass here and there but his drops IMO weren’t as bad….and the one play in S.F. meh. I say he shoulda caught it, but that was a really tough one.
…the only thing that does bother me is that sometimes he doesn’t catch the ball w/ his hands and lets it get too deep on him.
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and for the record...i'm not blamming Eli, but sometimes he makes a bad pass
so ALL those miscues are not always on MM.
I look at the one game this year….I think it was GB. He targetted Barden 3 times that game…2 of those passes were absolutely piss poor and not even in Barden’s area code. Barden did catch the other one for a short game.
Point I’m making is: Eli could do no wrong that day but for some reason he couldn’t give Barden a pass he could deal with…and they weren’t really on Barden b/c they were short little passes; one over his head, the other at his feet.
Unfortunately, due to this, Barden disappeared. Schematically speaking. After that game Barden barely got any burn until they played the Jets and KG threw him out there vs. Revis and after that he was banished him to the bench…AGAIN. There is no way i’m blaming Eli for this, but it goes to show you that the smallest things can get you phases out in this offense.
it’s very “clicky”….one day you’re at the “cool kids’ table” the next day you’re eating lunch w/ the Practice Squad.
Personally….(Everyone together now)….I blame Gilbride!
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That was a great throw..but it also is the hardest catch for a receiver to make...
Gotta givee MM huge credit for that catch..The throw and catch were beautiful..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Regarding Nicks' comment about Rolle telling him to do the Dirty Bird...
If he does everything Rolle tells him to do then I’d like Rolle to tell him to score 3 TDs each weekend.
nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!
Just ordered FatHeads for all available Giants. Now I have something to aim at when punching holes in my wall.
Haha!!..yeah..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
This
seems fair
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Jan 9, 2012 8:15 PM EST up reply actions
PFF numbers mean almost nothing
Kind of like grading a doctor for every step in surgery. He may not do everything perfectly by the book, but if surgery successful thats what counts. I know what I saw and I saw Nicks have a terrific game along with Jacobs. The grades dont reflect it. Just ignore PFF. Another analogy: a pitcher throws a perfect game but makes some bad pitches that the hitter fouls off but should have connected for long drives. Who cares?
DavebrownNOT
Yeah I don't give much credence to PFF numbers...
Hey, we’re watching the game..We know who excelled and who didn’t..For example…
Diehl had a great game..
Mckenzie had a bad game..
So on and so forth..We know it..I don’t need a mathematician to tell me..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
PFF ain't even remotely math
They just use numbers
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
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by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16
Totally off topic but
anyone think that Calvin Johnson would resign with Lions for anything less than what Fitz did for the Cardinals? I certainly don’t, some of the things some Lion fans are saying are retarded over at ESPN. Some honestly think he’ll take a multiyear contract for about 10 mil per year.
idk...but i see the Falcons fans are not to happy about losing their DC
and the word is Abraham wants out and Grimes is a FA too.
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