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Pereira's Take On Sunday's Officiating

I will have your 'Kudos & Wet Willies' in a little while. In the meantime, I figured you guys might be interested in FOX analyst Mike Periera's take on some of the weirder calls from Sunday's game.

Pereira figures the Giants should have been given a first down on the pass to Hakeem Nicks in the second quarter. None of it wound up making any difference, but Pereira's views are always interesting.

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off topic: Pereira is the definition of blowhard.

I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.

by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 9, 2012 9:31 AM EST reply actions  

x

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/pereiras-rip-job-on-gruden-just-one-more-reason-he-cant-be-trusted?urn=nfl,wp14854

I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.

by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 9, 2012 9:32 AM EST up reply actions  

Not off target at all

He is a TOOL

It is better to be silent and be thought a fool, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt.

by SNORKIS on Jan 9, 2012 12:07 PM EST up reply actions  

that's always on topic

I think it was the Jest game I just wanted to choke Pereira.

Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows

by Rorschach44 on Jan 9, 2012 12:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Totally wrong on the PI call

Nicks was being mugged all the way. If that did not interfere, what is interference? Do you have to hit the WR with a zamboni?

Ludicrous. Glad it had no impact.

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It is equally worthless when people are always optimistic or always pessimistic. Either way I take their opinion with a pound of salt because I know they only have one setting. I post my own thoughts, not what either side wants to read.

by UnknownJintsFan on Jan 9, 2012 9:43 AM EST reply actions  

Funny.

The camera was focused on Eli but the pass interference was so blatant you could see it before Eli decided to throw the to Nicks. Dude was practically humping Nicks.

by LoNJDTechnology on Jan 9, 2012 10:03 AM EST via Android app up reply actions  

thats y E threw it there

he was trying to get the penalty

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by 1giantlion on Jan 9, 2012 7:28 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm blue thru and thru but I've got to disagree

Arm around the waist and reaching in with the left hand is good technique. Eli was out of the pocket, a threat to run, illegal contact rules are voided, and Nicks is like a center in the low box waiting for the point guard to get him the ball. Owens has to be allowed to play some defense.

My biggest reason for agreeing with the non-call is that I want our dbs to get the same benefit when they make contact that does not significantly hinder the receiver. Let ’em play.

Bottom line – Nicks had two hands out in front of him and had opportunity to catch that ball.

"Allie Sherman wrecked the Giants!" - my 5th grade bus driver

by Dick J on Jan 9, 2012 10:16 AM EST up reply actions  

+1

it was a good play. You gotta let them play the game. If that was Cweb defending fans would be screaming bad call

Perry Fewell Stinks!

by GMen56-11 on Jan 9, 2012 11:15 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Except that you're not supposed to be allowed to put your arm around the waist.

You just illustrated why it WAS PI.

"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning

"SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!"

"Eli. Your the money QB start with your leadership skiols which are laclkoing."

by ManningHam and Cheese on Jan 9, 2012 12:19 PM EST up reply actions  

After a big win, we can have civil debates

I should have said “right hand on hip, right arm around the back of the waist” .

Don’t think he was wrapped around the front. IMO, Nicks could have had two hands on that one, I’d let the call go and expect the same ruling for our DB’s.

The NFL is 180 degrees from the LB and DB muggings of the 1970’s. It was all defense: Purple People Eaters, Fearsome Foursome, Doomsday, Orange Crush, No Name D, Steel Curtain, etc. Today it is all offense, 5000 yard years, 35-50 TD passes the norm.

Rule changes are blowin’ in the wind. Things will slowly go back to a happy medium. In the meantime, can a DB even breathe on a wideout anymore?

"Allie Sherman wrecked the Giants!" - my 5th grade bus driver

by Dick J on Jan 9, 2012 12:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Voided contact?

Does this only apply when the QB is flushed out of the pocket? What about designed plays that rolls the QB out? Personally, however the QB get’s out of the pocket and he’s behind the LOS, the rule should remain consistent. The worst that could happen may be an illegal man downfield!

by Hootman on Jan 9, 2012 12:40 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't agree on that

What is the defender supposed to do there? Just give him the TD?

I thought that was good defense. Nicks boxed him out, and the guy tried, and did make a good play without bowling him over…..

Defenders have to be allowed to try and make a play.

by dubsrub on Jan 9, 2012 10:45 AM EST up reply actions  

he had his arms wrapped around him.

It was a holding at the very least.

"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning

"SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!"

"Eli. Your the money QB start with your leadership skiols which are laclkoing."

by ManningHam and Cheese on Jan 9, 2012 12:18 PM EST up reply actions  

a DB

Is allowed to reach in to defend the ball as long as there’s no contact. The gotta let them play. It was a good non call

Perry Fewell Stinks!

by GMen56-11 on Jan 9, 2012 12:43 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Yes...

He can reach in but as soon as the hand goes around the waist it’s PI!!

"Can't win with Tom Quinn"

by dg89 on Jan 9, 2012 3:46 PM EST up reply actions  

"as long as there's no contact"

thanks

nygmen123: Again, without Vick or Maclin, or Cromartie. Injuries don't seem to bother them. They just bring in guys to make plays
nygmen123: Stopped the Pats on the first series. Planted Brady twice. Guess what gang? This team isn't quitting. Or making excuses.
Simms-McC: Yeah -- I wish the Giants were more like the Eagles
nygmen123: In intensity and fight? Right now, so do I.
EAGLES LOSE, 38-20.

by Simms-McConkey on Jan 9, 2012 3:49 PM EST up reply actions  

When the defender gets up...

And the first thing he does is look for a flag, I think there was pass interference.

In trying to scramble out of a hole, it sometimes digs it deeper. ~Wellington Mara
I always root for the defense. ~Wellington Mara

by DavidE on Jan 9, 2012 11:14 AM EST up reply actions  

defenders

Are programmed to be flagged for ticky tacky calls. I wouldn’t interpret the defenders action as an admission of guilt

Perry Fewell Stinks!

by GMen56-11 on Jan 9, 2012 11:58 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

saw that too.

He mauled Nicks then immediately looked at the ref, who had his thumb up his ass apparently.

"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning

"SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!"

"Eli. Your the money QB start with your leadership skiols which are laclkoing."

by ManningHam and Cheese on Jan 9, 2012 12:17 PM EST up reply actions  

only thing that possibly makes it not PI

is that Nicks was using his arse to shield off the defender and boxing him out. I’ve seen less be called PI on the defense tho, so that’s crap.

Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows

by Rorschach44 on Jan 9, 2012 12:33 PM EST up reply actions  

If it was Boothe's butt

The DB would’ve been in an gravitational orbit where PI would be inevitable!

by Hootman on Jan 9, 2012 12:53 PM EST up reply actions  

His "chain of events" following the delay of game/12 men call on ATL is flawed

and beautifully illustrates the problem with the “what-if”scenarios:

Instead of the Falcons having a third-and-10 situation from the Giants’ 30-yard line, the penalty turned it into a third-and 15-from the 35.

Ryan then completed a 14-yard pass to Roddy White, which would have been a first down had the penalty yardage not been assessed. Rather, it was a fourth-and-1, Ryan was stuffed on a quarterback sneak and the Giants took over.

The Giants would not be back in coverage allowing a 14-yard gain, nor would ATL be making that same call, on 3rd and 10. You cannot say “we woulda shoulda coulda” based on previous circumstance. We don’t know if Atlanta makes a first on 3rd and 10.

"Allie Sherman wrecked the Giants!" - my 5th grade bus driver

by Dick J on Jan 9, 2012 9:59 AM EST reply actions  

I took issue with that as well.

I actually agree with him on the pass interference call on Nicks – it could have gone either way, but it wasn’t blatant.

But for a guy who poses to know so much about the game of football, he should know better than to play the “what-if” game. It just doesn’t work that way.

by tulls200 on Jan 9, 2012 10:54 AM EST up reply actions  

Exactly

3rd and 15 means a different defense and a different offensive call.

In trying to scramble out of a hole, it sometimes digs it deeper. ~Wellington Mara
I always root for the defense. ~Wellington Mara

by DavidE on Jan 9, 2012 11:13 AM EST up reply actions  

You know what's funny

Atlanta almost converted on 3rd and 15, but cannot find a yard on the next play?

by Hootman on Jan 9, 2012 12:21 PM EST up reply actions  

They couldn't find 6 inches on that one!

"Allie Sherman wrecked the Giants!" - my 5th grade bus driver

by Dick J on Jan 9, 2012 12:28 PM EST up reply actions  

I already harped on this, but

I was beside myself after that blown spot on the Nicks catch towards the end of the first half. And the worst part about it was they didn’t even bother to measure! You could tell that the Giants, at least Eli, figured they had gotten the first down since the catch was clearly made beyond the stick and a measurement wasn’t even made. Incredibly bad officiating in that instance. Thank God it’s not being talked about as one of the differences in the game.

by mtcl05 on Jan 9, 2012 10:42 AM EST reply actions  

All really good points

"Allie Sherman wrecked the Giants!" - my 5th grade bus driver

by Dick J on Jan 9, 2012 11:02 AM EST up reply actions  

Thinking about your post a bit more

Refs on the broadcast are something you see in the Olympics, when some obscure sport is being broadcast on the world stage and nobody except the participants and their family members know anything about how the sport is played.

The rules for “America’s Game” should not need so much interpretation.

"Allie Sherman wrecked the Giants!" - my 5th grade bus driver

by Dick J on Jan 9, 2012 12:56 PM EST up reply actions  

I'd much rather get the right calls

than complain about some dude in the booth and what his job used to be. Your experience is not everyone’s experience – some of us want the calls to be right, regardless if it’s a little slower

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by Cory Braiterman on Jan 9, 2012 12:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Where is this headed?

More cameras, higher def, sensors built into the field, micro-interpretation of the rules, where each word and phrase needs to be defined and interpreted in the context in which it was originally written…

IMHO – The game needs simpler rules which can be judged easily by human eyes. Getting the calls right is paramount, but the game delays are hurting flow and momentum. Then there’s the challenges, refs huddling several times per drive, and the players “calling for calls to me made” after EVERY PLAY. It is as if every snap isn’t complete unless there’s the “penalty check”. All kinds of plays are followed by the refs wasting time telling us that “there was no foul on the play” – they’re throwing flags like a reaction to every action!

Clearly, too much of these games is about officiating, rules, and calls controversy. I want to watch football. LET ’EM PLAY!

"Allie Sherman wrecked the Giants!" - my 5th grade bus driver

by Dick J on Jan 9, 2012 12:47 PM EST up reply actions  

This doesn't happen
refs huddling several times per drive, and the players "calling for calls to me made" after EVERY PLAY.

This is nothing but straw men and slippery slope arguments. Ron Jaworski in the preseason was ranting that the booth reviewing every touchdown would cause games to be 20, 30 or more minutes longer. That simply is not the case.

In many instances, some of the measures you’re talking about, such as sensors in the ball and field, would quicken the game, not hinder it.

The artful muppet formerly known as KrmtDfrog.
Please read my sardonic wit and over-blown sense of self over at headkicklegend.com

by Cory Braiterman on Jan 9, 2012 1:11 PM EST up reply actions  

There is the reality, and there is the perceived reality

The perceived reality – which governs how the majority of us vote, choose, purchase, etc. – is that the game’s ebb and flow is interrupted too much because of the things I’ve cited.

The law of diminished returns is in play here. At what price do we micro-manage the officiating, calls, interpretations, etc? When does it begin to take away from the game?

Hey, I’m old and I’m old school!

"Allie Sherman wrecked the Giants!" - my 5th grade bus driver

by Dick J on Jan 9, 2012 1:32 PM EST up reply actions  

AND

Full time refs in their 30s who train year round. The players are too big, too fast too athletic for 40, 50 and 60 year old men.

Perry Fewell Stinks!

by GMen56-11 on Jan 9, 2012 9:58 PM EST up reply actions  

The officiatng was a joke all weekend

and the saddest part is we had one of the BETTER officiated games even though the Falcons were not called for a single non-procedural (false start, 12 men) penalty ALL GAME. That pales in comparison to the Brees fumble or Ben’s non-called backwards lateral that should have been a huge turnover, etc, etc, etc. The league should be ashamed.

by TNYFBG on Jan 9, 2012 10:47 AM EST reply actions  

The issue is the missed calls were so blatant.

Why the heck TC has to do the officials job by letting them know there were 12 men in the huddle. Petty holding calls against the Giants, the bad spot against the Giants and the no interference call.
Cmon guys, execute your job as professionals this is not the pee wee league.

by rbman3 on Jan 9, 2012 10:57 AM EST reply actions  

Correct Tommy Boy had to point it out to the Refs

Embarrassing

Why is Tom Quinn still here? I loves me some Coach Clawfin.

by costanza! on Jan 9, 2012 11:00 AM EST up reply actions  

reffing

there will always be questionable calls on both sides. I have no beef with the refereeing so far in the playoffs. To me it hasn’t been any worse than any other year. at the end of the day I truly believe it all evens out and whoever plays better on the field will win. Like someone said above perrierra is a blowhard.

by Slappinfaces on Jan 9, 2012 11:35 AM EST via Android app reply actions  

Perrierra rhymes with Diarrhea

Why is Tom Quinn still here? I loves me some Coach Clawfin.

by costanza! on Jan 9, 2012 11:56 AM EST reply actions  

Mike Pereira..that's like interviewing Bernie Madhoff...

Screw him..his Fraternity of referees..stinks..All four games they stunk..When they patch him in on a replay, I go get a beer or use that time to go take a leak..He brings zero value-add during broadcasts..and he’s biased..Which is understandable..but why waste my time..

"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."

by Bobbiblue on Jan 9, 2012 12:05 PM EST reply actions  

Funny,

Pereira, when phoning in during other Giants games, during challenges, usually says the call will go against the Giants, then Coughlin gets it right, and he looks dumb. Yesterday was the first time he agreed a call or two should have gone the Giants way. Maybe he’s learning.

"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning

"SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!"

"Eli. Your the money QB start with your leadership skiols which are laclkoing."

by ManningHam and Cheese on Jan 9, 2012 12:14 PM EST reply actions  

Hey Cheese

Loved MM’s play yesterday.

"Allie Sherman wrecked the Giants!" - my 5th grade bus driver

by Dick J on Jan 9, 2012 12:16 PM EST up reply actions  

You play by the rules as they are

It’s a tightly officiated, hyper-competitive league now. Roll with it. I got pissed about the Nicks non-call, but I’m trying very hard to relax more during games. My temper’s gotten away from me a few times this year, and letting stuff like this go should help.

I do think the Nicks non-call basically told CWeb he could do anything short of dragging down White and he wouldn’t get a flag. You could tell how pissed off White was. I told my wife, “That’s how you know your CB is doing his job, when the WR starts hitting him after the whistle, cheap shotting him.” Webster was clearly in his head.

"Sometimes it doesn’t work out the way you want it to work out, but we play the hand we’re dealt and we’ll win with it." -- Giants GM Jerry Reese

In Reese I trust.

by GiantFanInPackerLand on Jan 9, 2012 1:46 PM EST reply actions  

Officiating in the NFL flat out sucks.

It’s horrible. Every game there are several game-changing mistakes. Through randomness or subconscious perception issues with the referees, sometimes these terrible calls are in a preponderance against one team. It changes games, it changes outcomes.

The NFL must make it a priority to improve the officiating. Get full time referees. Improve the training. make people culpable for their mistakes. For Christ’s sake can’t I ever just watch one game where the officiating is not an issue?

nygmen123: Again, without Vick or Maclin, or Cromartie. Injuries don't seem to bother them. They just bring in guys to make plays
nygmen123: Stopped the Pats on the first series. Planted Brady twice. Guess what gang? This team isn't quitting. Or making excuses.
Simms-McC: Yeah -- I wish the Giants were more like the Eagles
nygmen123: In intensity and fight? Right now, so do I.
EAGLES LOSE, 38-20.

by Simms-McConkey on Jan 9, 2012 3:54 PM EST reply actions  

Super Bowl 42

can’t I ever just watch one game where the officiating is not an issue?

Perry Fewell Stinks!

by GMen56-11 on Jan 9, 2012 10:01 PM EST up reply actions  

MHO on Mike Periera

He’s a POS. Always has been. He will support the refs and blame crap on other people at any time, if possible.
I remember him, after our terrible loss to San Fran years ago, saying that the last play was called correctly.
He is either blind, retarded, or a combination of the two (no offense to anyone with blind or mentally challenged family).
These refs are part timers, and they give it part-time diligence. Walt Coleman has been terrible for years, and somehow still remains in the ref pool.
My main problem is that I think we were flagged for holding what, 4 times? How mant times was Atlanta? I am so sick of holding calls and wish that they would either use it across the board or not at all. I would speculate that maybe it gives insight as to who the refs want to win. Can’t be proven unless some of them talk.

Quit playing not to lose. Start playing to WIN! Geeez...

by GAgiantfan on Jan 9, 2012 5:04 PM EST reply actions  

UHG!

That playoff game against San Fran pissed me off so bad! To add to it, I was watching it with a firend who is, of course, a Niner fan.
Once that FG attempt on 3rd down was over, I sat back for a second, because it was obviously pass interference and illegal man downfield. Penalties offset, replay the down. Even my Nine fan friend saw it. But no. No PI? Why? What, in any version of the NFL rulebook says that wasn’t PI?
The biggest joke of all, after the refs giving SF the game on a silver platter, was the fact the SF didn’t even show up the next week. At least, as far as I can see, the G-men would have put up a fight.
Maybe we’ll get another shot in this year’s NFC Championship game.

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by LittleJoe20 on Jan 10, 2012 4:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Hicks

I know Pereira isn’t the only one who has called Nicks Hicks, but it remains awful. It makes it seem like they don’t know his name is Nicks, which also makes Pereira seem like even more of a tool than he already is.

It’s fine for fan message boards, but it’s inappropriate for an article like this, imo. Just seems kind of clueless.

by wutendeskind on Jan 9, 2012 6:11 PM EST reply actions  

There's only one Hicks

Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants

by The Always Well Dressed... on Jan 9, 2012 9:24 PM EST up reply actions  

he has no credability

he is a refs best friend and protects them 90% of the time….he is an idiot with regards to the non call agaist Nicks in the end zone that was totally interference and should have been flagged, he was holding Nicks before the ball was thrown and had hold of his body and his arm before the ball reached Nicks. he says call the big ones and not the little ones ?? that non call cost a team a score in a close playoff game??? like I said he is an idiot….

by trinity giant on Jan 9, 2012 9:07 PM EST reply actions  

That's a fact..keyword?..Idiot..

"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."

by Bobbiblue on Jan 9, 2012 10:20 PM EST up reply actions  

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