Victor Cruz: The 2011 Rookie Of The Year?
by Sean Kerr on Jan 6, 2012 12:58 PM EST
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It could be argued that this should be considered Victor Cruz's rookie year. Cruz came into the league last season and had a phenomenal preseason. On August 16, 2010, the Giants' first preseason game, this scrappy, young man from Paterson, NJ had six-receptions for 145 yards and three-touchdowns. Cruz had more reception yards and touchdowns than any other receiver in the 2010 NFL preseason. After suffering a hamstring injury that October, the rookie season of Victor Cruz was a wash.
The voting for the 2011 NFL Rookie Of The Year is under way. The wealth of talent of this year's nominees is tremendous, rightly so. I think it is safe to say that Cam Newton is the odds-on favorite to win this prestigious award. However, if Victor Cruz was added to this year's ballot, would he upset the apple cart? Would he win the thing outright? Let's take a look at this year's nominees.
Quarterback
Cincinnati Bengals
ATT - 516
CMP - 300
PCT - 58.1
YDs - 3,398
TDs - 20
INT - 13
QB Rating - 80.4
____________________
Cam Newton
Quarterback
ATT - 517
CMP - 310
PCT - 60.0
YDs - 4,051
Passing TDs - 21
Rushing TDs - 14
INT - 17
QB Rating - 84.5
____________________
Linebacker
Combined Tackles - 37
Solo - 31
Asst - 6
Sacks - 14.0
Safety - 1
Forced Fumbles - 2
____________________
Von Miller
Linebacker
Combined Tackles - 64
Solo - 50
Asst - 14
Sacks - 11.5
Forced Fumbles - 2
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Cornerback
Combined Tackles - 64
Solo - 59
Asst - 5
Sacks - 1.0
Pass Deflections - 13
INT - 2
Punt Returns - 44
Return YDs - 699
AVG - 15.9
Lng - 99
TDs - 4
____________________
Victor Cruz
Wide Receiver
Receptions - 82
YDs - 1,536
Avg - 18.7
YDs/G 96.0
Lng - 99
TDs - 9
Victor Cruz broke two-franchise records this year, most receptions yards in a single-season and the longest reception record. There is no question that Cruz had one of the standout performances of the year. Sadly, his hammy from last year may have cost him the 2010 Rookie Of The Year Award, if his preseason play was any indication of what his regular season would look like. Would Cruz walk away with the award this year, if he was pitted up against the 2011 nominees? Cast your vote. Share your opinions.
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cruz doesnt have the most receptions in a single season for the NYG franchise, it still belongs to the crappy steve smith
JPP for 2011 DPOY!
He said receiving yds
Not recpts
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
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by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16
SS12 was not crappy when he was here.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
I went with Aldon Smith
him and Von Miller have been defensive beasts this year
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Jan 6, 2012 1:07 PM EST reply actions
aldon only had 37 tackles for a LB, newton set a record for most passing yards and rushing TDs by a rookie…not to mention he had a 60% completion percentage
JPP for 2011 DPOY!
but I factor in what they did for their teams
and the position they are currently in, Smith has been a reason why the 9er defense is so good and number 2 seed. Same can be said for Dalton, and Bengal team that was predicted to have like 2 wins but two rookies on offense have been the difference in them playing this weekend.
That’s just my opinion, when the voting takes place, they don’t factor in what the team is too much, its more about the individual performance and Cam has a big edge there. Not Newton’s fault the CAR defense stinks.
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Jan 6, 2012 1:23 PM EST up reply actions
Aldon is not really a LB
he’s a 3-4 OLB, a pass rusher.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
I had to choose Cam Newton...
Unfortunately, Cruz Missile won’t be considered a rookie..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Yes..but IF Cruz was on the ballot..
…would he win?
Unfortunately, the poor guy got robbed of the opportunity last year.
Well if that's the case...
Put LT’s ‘86 season and Peyton’s ’04 season and see which on would be rookie of the year.
To err is human.
To forgive is divine.
Neither is Marine Corps Policy.
by Big Blue in tx on Jan 6, 2012 1:20 PM EST up reply actions
Yes I believe he would based on the impact he had getting us in the playoffs...
Cam Newton had a great rookie year, but not many wins..but I really think Cruz was the biggest positive impact player in the league..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Even if he were a rookie they'd give the award to Fig Newton
QBz are better than oxygen according to some.
To me Cruz would deserve it hands down. I’ve been looking at WR first seasons, and his was historic. Just look at his numbers compared to Randy Moss.
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
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by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16
Fig Newton!!!hahaha!!!
We have to play that pain in the ass next year too..I hope the rest of that team still sucks when we play them..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
I love Cam
Seems like a great kid, but Fig is just to obvious
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
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by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16
His greatest personality trait is he absoulutely HATES to lose..hates it..
They have to let him cool down before they interview him, but he is a great kid..fierce competitor…
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
What Newton did was historic
There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only BLUE WALLS.
The 2012 Mets: Fortune cookie says come back in 2015
its funny that in any other sport he'd be considered a rookie.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
Very true...
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
I CHOOSE JPP!!!!!!
Oh, wait. He’s not a rookie, just like Victor Cruz!
Seriously though, Cam is the man. He did all that with little or offseason and a million haters saying he was going to be a bust. I like the kid a lot and think he’ll be the man for a long time. You need to put his rushing TDs up there too.
To err is human.
To forgive is divine.
Neither is Marine Corps Policy.
Yeah they both got gipped...
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Nope
JPP didn’t play well and Victor Cruz only played 4(?) games and had 0 catches their rookie years. Neither deserved consideration.
Now, they are much better second year players. Pro Bowl calibur, infact.
To err is human.
To forgive is divine.
Neither is Marine Corps Policy.
by Big Blue in tx on Jan 6, 2012 2:47 PM EST up reply actions
Agree on JPP but I don't recall Cruz playing one snap last year...
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
+80
I don’t think Victor was active for any games last season.
Perry Fewell Stinks!
I saw him on the field in the Colt-Giant game
last year. But no targets to him
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Jan 6, 2012 3:04 PM EST up reply actions
That didn't paste exactly right...
G GS Rec Yds Avg Lng TD Att Yds Avg Lng TD FUM Lost
2011 New York Giants 16 7 82 1,536 18.7 99T 9 1 3 3.0 3 0 1 1
2010 New York Giants 3 0 - - - - - - - - - - - -
He played in 3 games last year and had no receptions. He may have had drop, not sure. But he did play in 4 preseason games, had OTAs, a whole summer camp, made ouster and was like in 10 plays. This years’ rookies didn’t have most of that.
Stats are here:
http://www.nfl.com/player/victorcruz/2507855/profile
To err is human.
To forgive is divine.
Neither is Marine Corps Policy.
by Big Blue in tx on Jan 6, 2012 3:14 PM EST up reply actions
3 games 0 starts.
To err is human.
To forgive is divine.
Neither is Marine Corps Policy.
by Big Blue in tx on Jan 6, 2012 3:14 PM EST up reply actions
and a whole season
practicing with a NFL team. He had a huge advantage over this years rookies.
Perry Fewell Stinks!
Actually it means he was active for 3 games, actual snaps might have been zero
And you can’t practice on IR
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
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by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16
understood
And you can’t practice on IR
but you’re still around the team learning. It’s still better than no OTAs etc.
Perry Fewell Stinks!
Yeah
Just going for accuracy
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
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by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16
I'd like to see if he's still this good next year
I think he’s in for a major bubble bursting
Self-praise is for losers. Be a winner. Stand for something. Always have class, and be humble.
-John Madden
The Ballard of Jake:
Stop→Slow→Truck→LEAP!
(Adapted from Raptor 22)
What is that you don't think ha can do next year?
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by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16
Don't get me wrong I still think he'll put up numbers
But to be good enough to make 2nd team all pro again?
Remains to be seen
Self-praise is for losers. Be a winner. Stand for something. Always have class, and be humble.
-John Madden
The Ballard of Jake:
Stop→Slow→Truck→LEAP!
(Adapted from Raptor 22)
Cam Newton
4000 passing yards by a rookie is amazing. Plus stat left out above – 706 rushing yards (26th in the league) and 14 more TDs. And with a team that wasn’t very good. He proved a lot of people wrong.
Mickey C
Absolutely... There's no comparison!
With almost no offseason season at the hardest position to play in the NFL he had the best rookie season for a QB ever.
To err is human.
To forgive is divine.
Neither is Marine Corps Policy.
by Big Blue in tx on Jan 6, 2012 1:25 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah he makes Vick look like a miniature poodle..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
I like Cruz more than Cam.
But its Cam Newton as the rookie of the year. I know it takes time for wr’s to get up to speed in the NFL. But for Cam as a 2011 drafted Rookie to come in during a locked out summer and put up the numbers he did at the QUARTERBACK position is rare, so rare that he set the rookie record book.
If not for him, Its by far Victor Cruz
"they try to do what he do, and been where he's been, but they get folded in two.....he's the dude"
Cruz's numbers for a first or 2nd year guy
Are historically great, we’re talking Megatron, Moss, Rice, Sterling Sharpe, Isaac Bruce level
And his numbers are at the top of all WRs this year (Newton set a rookie record, but he wasn’t a leader amongst all QBs)
Yeah there were some unknowns, but most of them seem to have gotten hurt. If Cruz is only as good as Gary Clark (and Cruz’s numbers were better but comparable) we have 2 #1 caliber WRs at the beginnings of their careers. A bit like Swann, Stallworth or Holt/Bruce. If JJ or Barden become a real threat (I’m assuming MM leaves as a free agent), this offense might go nuclear.
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
Football - It's Beyond an Addiction, It's a Way of Life.
by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16
Let's talk MVP..ooops..that won't work
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
if Cruz was eligible
I’d still vote for Cam.
Perry Fewell Stinks!
by GMen56-11 on Jan 6, 2012 1:41 PM EST via mobile reply actions
It would be close..but
One thing Cam did was electrify a fan base that suffered from deep severe depression..I listen everyday to a Charlotte based radio show..and fans up there are showing up to games again, so if single-handedly filling seats counts, it goes to Newton..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Call me biased--because I am
But I think, if Cruz were eligible, he would give Cam a run for his money. Realistically, Cam would probably still win, because, as someone else said, he is a QB and they get all the love. But my vote would still be with Victor.
Go Giants! Go Red Sox! This is not a typo, this is my life. I am "A Fan Divided"
Here is the list of all 1st or 2nd year WRS with 70/1400 this is the history of the NFL
Game Pass ReceRk Player Year Age Draft Tm Lg G GS Cmp Att Cmp% Yds TD Int Rate Sk Y/A SkYds AY/A ANY/A Y/G Rec Yds Y/R TD Y/G
1 Bill Groman 1960 24 HOU AFL 14 0 1 1 100.0% 3 1 0 118.7 3.00 23.00 0.2 72 1473 20.46 12 105.2
2 Randy Moss 1999 22 1-21 MIN NFL 16 16 1 1 100.0% 27 1 0 158.3 0 27.00 0 47.00 47.00 1.7 80 1413 17.66 11 88.3
3 Isaac Bruce 1995 23 2-33 STL NFL 16 16 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 119 1781 14.97 13 111.3
4 Larry Fitzgerald 2005 22 1-3 ARI NFL 16 16 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 103 1409 13.68 10 88.1
5 Charley Hennigan 1961 26 HOU AFL 14 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 82 1746 21.29 12 124.7
6 Torry Holt 2000 24 1-6 STL NFL 16 15 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 82 1635 19.94 6 102.2
7 Jerry Rice* 1986 24 1-16 SFO NFL 16 15 1 2 50.0% 16 0 0 77.1 0 8.00 0 8.00 8.00 1.0 86 1570 18.26 15 98.1
8 Marcus Robinson 1999 24 4-108 CHI NFL 16 11 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 84 1400 16.67 9 87.5
9 Sterling Sharpe 1989 24 1-7 GNB NFL 16 16 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 90 1423 15.81 12 88.9
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
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by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16
Ignore the 2 guys from that wild Houston team, it was the AFL early
We’re basically saying dominant
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
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by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16
You beat me to it!!haha
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
The cut and paste cut off the stats! I'll try again
But those are the only guys in NFL History to post numbers like Cruz in their first or second season.
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
Football - It's Beyond an Addiction, It's a Way of Life.
by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16
they apply
Its a reply that Cruz season as a 2nd year player ranks with some of the games greats.
Perry Fewell Stinks!
by GMen56-11 on Jan 6, 2012 2:03 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Much Better
Game ReceRk Player Year Age Draft Tm Lg G GS Rec Yds Y/R TD Y/G
1 Bill Groman 1960 24 HOU AFL 14 0 72 1473 20.46 12 105.2
2 Randy Moss 1999 22 1-21 MIN NFL 16 16 80 1413 17.66 11 88.3
3 Isaac Bruce 1995 23 2-33 STL NFL 16 16 119 1781 14.97 13 111.3
4 Larry Fitzgerald 2005 22 1-3 ARI NFL 16 16 103 1409 13.68 10 88.1
5 Charley Hennigan 1961 26 HOU AFL 14 0 82 1746 21.29 12 124.7
6 Torry Holt 2000 24 1-6 STL NFL 16 15 82 1635 19.94 6 102.2
7 Jerry Rice* 1986 24 1-16 SFO NFL 16 15 86 1570 18.26 15 98.1
8 Marcus Robinson 1999 24 4-108 CHI NFL 16 11 84 1400 16.67 9 87.5
9 Sterling Sharpe 1989 24 1-7 GNB NFL 16 16 90 1423 15.81 12 88.9
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
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by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16
All Stats from Football-Reference
they have a great season finder search, its newish, so im not 100% positive its been perfected
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
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by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16
All time rookie WRs vs VC this year catches
Game ReceRk Player Year Age Draft Tm Lg G GS Rec Yds Y/R TD Y/G
1 Anquan Boldin 2003 23 2-54 ARI NFL 16 16 101 1377 13.63 8 86.1
2 Michael Clayton 2004 22 1-15 TAM NFL 16 13 80 1193 14.91 7 74.6
3 Terry Glenn 1996 22 1-7 NWE NFL 15 15 90 1132 12.58 6 75.5
4 Eddie Royal 2008 22 2-42 DEN NFL 15 15 91 980 10.77 5 65.3
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
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by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16
yardage, he's better than any rookie season ever
Game ReceRk Player Year Age Draft Tm Lg G GS Rec Yds Y/R TD Y/G
1 Bill Groman 1960 24 HOU AFL 14 0 72 1473 20.46 12 105.2
2 Anquan Boldin 2003 23 2-54 ARI NFL 16 16 101 1377 13.63 8 86.1
3 Randy Moss 1998 21 1-21 MIN NFL 16 11 69 1313 19.03 17 82.1
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
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by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16
Ahaaaa!!!..Now I get it!!
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
He's not a Rookie!
How does he compare to nd year stats?
To err is human.
To forgive is divine.
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by Big Blue in tx on Jan 6, 2012 2:30 PM EST up reply actions
I mean 2nd year stats...
To err is human.
To forgive is divine.
Neither is Marine Corps Policy.
by Big Blue in tx on Jan 6, 2012 2:31 PM EST up reply actions
check the one that says "much better"
thats guys with 70/1400 or more in their first or 2nd year
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
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by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16
Now Newton is playing at a time when rookie QBs get tossed on the field, even Eli waited a while
Game PassRk Player Year Age Draft Tm Lg G GS Cmp Att Cmp% Yds TD Int Rate Sk Y/A SkYds AY/A ANY/A Y/G
1 Jim Kelly* 1986 26 1-14 BUF NFL 16 16 285 480 59.4% 3593 22 17 83.3 43 7.49 330 6.81 5.62 224.6
2 Matt Ryan 2008 23 1-3 ATL NFL 16 16 265 434 61.1% 3440 16 11 87.7 17 7.93 104 7.52 7.01 215.0
3 Joe Flacco 2008 23 1-18 BAL NFL 16 16 257 428 60.0% 2971 14 12 80.3 32 6.94 276 6.33 5.29 185.7
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
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by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16
these are the guys with over 400 pass attempts and a QB rating over 80
Newton is in good company, but its not the same as Cruz
I think Newton is a star, but Cruz’s season compared to his peers (other WRs was ridiculous)
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
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by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16
Yes..but if you add Newtons rushing yards..I think it brings him up that list quite a bit..
But I now understand your point about Cruz..awesome stuff
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Historically running QBs don't keep running
Its the injury thing. and of course they’ll keep coaching him to only run as a last resort
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
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by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16
The scary thing (and I agree with you) is that I think he already is doing that...
Man I hope they stink again next year when we play them..If they put real players behind him..We’ll be in for it..They need a defense..I hope they don’t find it..
He has to slide though, but so far he hasn’t had to why slide in to the endzone when you can walk?..haha
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
I remember Steve Young and Randall Cunningham
You could see there were guys that were aching to lay them out. They’d give up a big pass cheating, and eventually the running shortened Young’s career.
I agree with you on Carolina, their offense has plenty of pieces, but their D is shot.
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
Football - It's Beyond an Addiction, It's a Way of Life.
by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16
Its between Cam and Peterson and I go Cam Newton. 4000 yards passing, 35 total TD’s. Those are crazy numbers for a rookie QB.
Freedom is a road seldom traveled by the multitudes...
by Major on Jan 6, 2012 2:19 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Yeah, bottomline is Cam is a shoe-in..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
How a second year WR with 1530 some yards compares to a rookie with 4000 pass yards and 35 TDs I'll never know!
I think people hate him cause all of the icon nonesense. He’ll change peoples minds.
To err is human.
To forgive is divine.
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by Big Blue in tx on Jan 6, 2012 2:35 PM EST up reply actions
This was all hypothetical..A 'what if' he was a rookie question is all...
Newton has it hands-down..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
All of which...
I wouldn’t exactly consider last year much of a “rookie” performance from cruz.
He sat the whole year out, aside from the preseason.
THIS is his first year playing in a regular season.
To me, this is his rookie season…without playing the semantics game of course.
He played in 3 games last year and had no stats.
So he had OTAs, and went to camp last season and played in 4 preseason games. Active for 3 games. That was his rookie season. So he had all of this on top of all the stuff this season. Not a rookie and its a bad comparison. He wasn’t totally raw.
To err is human.
To forgive is divine.
Neither is Marine Corps Policy.
by Big Blue in tx on Jan 6, 2012 3:18 PM EST up reply actions
we get that
it’s a hypothetical to create some discussion. IMO even if Cruz was eligible Cam wins it and deserves to win.
Perry Fewell Stinks!
Where is there Cam Newton hate around here?
I made a statement about how great Cruz’s numbers are, so I posted stats to back it up
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
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by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16
I have no idea I he he has a fart stuck crossways today...geez
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
*I think he must have
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
In truth, Cam deserves it
but may not get it being from such a small market. Aldon Smith is very very good. As is Von Miller.
11/1/2010
victor cruz
Hopefully victor will take a page out of the jerry rice playbook not let all the success go to his head and become a student of the game
Andy Dalton for me
dude helmed a very poor team from last year into the play-offs.
I agree with this
no one expected cincy to do anything this year. The most important qb stat is W’s
May Doug Marrone bless you and keep you.
There's a separate award for
Offensive and Defensive Rookies of the Year, Sean. No need to lump in Miller and Smith.
lol
Cam Newton will win rookie of the year
and deservedly so.
JPP + Cruz + Nicks + Eli
Yea, I'm excited about the next 10 years.
Agreed.
Cruz has been invaluable for the Giants and without him there is no postseason. But Cam Newton is going to make the Panthers a serious team again very soon. And Besides, how can you not vote for a kid with 14 rushing TD’s as a QB and 60% completion? Dude is beastly. Thank God he didn’t end up in Washington!
From Steve Smith to Victor Cruz and Plaxico Burress to Hakeem Nicks,
so Long as Eli throws, the Giants will be fine.
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