The Legend Of Victor Cruz
by Ed Valentine on Jan 5, 2012 9:46 AM EST
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Talk about the New York Giants these days and the conversation eventually turns to Victor Cruz. You might even say it's all Cruz all the time when it comes to the Giants as they prepare for Sunday's NFC Wild-Card game against the Atlanta Falcons (1 p.m. ET/FOX).
Everyone wants to know about Cruz' meteoric rise from undrafted free agent out of UMass who had never caught an NFL pass entering this season to franchise record-setting, salsa dancing mega-star who is feared by fans of opposing teams, has his touchdown dance copied by opposing players and hears chants of 'CRUUUUUUUUUUZ' from adoring fans every time he catches a pass.
Cruz' incredible play on the field (82 receptions, a franchise record 1,539 yards) and his magnetic personality (see his Madison Square Garden halftime salsa dance) have vaulted him to stardom.
Check out what Jason Kirk of SB Nation Atlanta had to say about Cruz in a recent chat I had with him.
"This Victor Cruz guy is an individual I'd rather have no part of," Kirk said. "He will get two touchdowns on Sunday, I'm confident."
Over at SB Nation's Falcons website, The Falcoholic, the folks there are wondering just how good Cruz is. 'Falcoholic' uses a variety of Football Outsiders stats and comes up with the following thoughts:
- "I think you'll find that Victor Cruz, in spite of his great season, is not on the level of Calvin Johnson or Larry Fitzgerald."
- "... due to the nature of [Atlanta cornerback] Brent Grimes, I think Cruz can be mostly a non-factor."
- "I do not fear Victor Cruz ... I think Cruz can be shut down."
Some of you will take offense to these comments, I'm sure. I don't because the writer uses the information at his disposal and his knowledge of the Falcons to offer a well-researched opinion. What I marvel at, though, is how much attention a guy who had never caught an NFL pass before this season -- and wasn't even drafted -- is now commanding.
Falcons' wide receiver Roddy White, a three-time Pro Bowler who has at least 100 catches in each of the past two seasons, offered his own thoughts on Cruz.
The Falcons receiver told reporters that the Paterson native is in for a "rude awakening" next season when teams begin game-planning to stop him after his breakout season.
But White added: "Any time you put up those kinds of numbers, he’s going to be in for a really good pay day. But he deserves it. Any guy that goes out there and puts up 1,500 yards, that’s remarkable."
Giants quarterback Eli Manning is already noticing teams changing the way they play Cruz.
"Some teams are kind of doubling him, driving him with a DB and a safety," Manning said. "Some teams are going to play him a little differently. I don't know if that's what Atlanta will do, if that's their style. Some teams have been making sure they keep two guys over him."
Cruz, of course, replaced Steve Smith when Smith bolted -- foolishly, it turns out -- to the Philadelphia Eagles. When I look at Cruz, I see an improved version of Smith. Sort of a Steve Smith 2.0, if you will.
Both are 6-feet tall, with Cruz weighing about 10 pounds more. Comparing Smith and Cruz when Smith was Manning's go-to guy in New York, both are superb route-runners who can work themselves free, and both excel in the slot.
Cruz, though, has two things Smith never had. The first is escapability. Where Smith was always a 'catch and fall down' guy, Cruz is a 'the play is only getting started when he catches the ball' guy. For Smith, the catch was the play. For Cruz, he is looking to make a play once he gets the ball -- and he has the moves and speed to get it done.
The other difference is Cruz's ability to make plays deep down the field. Smith's career-best yards per catch average is 11.4. Cruz has averaged 18.7 yards per catch this season. That isn't necessarily speed, largely it's will and toughness you would not think Cruz possesses by simply looking at him.
How long can Cruz' incredible ride last? Atlanta's White doesn't know, despite whatever he may say. Neither do I. No one does.
We don't know when, or if, Cruz may suffer the first debilitating injury to his legs -- robbing him of some of the speed and shiftiness that makes him special. All of the attention Cruz is getting from the media and the public is heady stuff for a 25-year-old who has never seen this type of treatment before, and no one knows how well he will handle it in the end. If and when he gets the rich contract White spoke about it is impossible to predict how that might affect his willingness to lay himself on the line to make plays.
All we know for sure is that the coming out party sure has been a lot of fun. Let's hope the dancing continues for a long time to come.
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Cruz
He has talent and the benefit of an ELIte QB…He earned the trust of said QB who now will throw his way even in descent coverage. Cruz’s talent takes over from there.
I got a GIF for that!
Jake
The week of the second Eagles game, everybody was falling all over themselves about Jake Ballard’s meteoric rise to stardom. He responded by coming out and dropping multiple passes on Sunday. I hope Cruz doesn’t meet the same fate.
That said, anybody that wants to focus on Cruz is going to have to leave either Nicks or Manningham available. I’d like to see the Giants line up 3 wide and run the ball against the Falcons nickel D.
with respect to Jake, his rise was nowhere near Cruz's
and Cruz already dropped a bunch of passes
The thing is
the reasons why people are so confident that they can shut him down are the same reasons its so fun to watch him prove them wrong. Just looking at him from a numbers standpoint, yeah of course he doesn’t scare you like Calvin Johnson does. The question is, so what?
How big is he? He’s just big enough to make the play.
How fast is he? He’s just fast enough to outrun the guy chasing him.
How high can he jump? Just a little higher than the guy covering him.
by Oppenheimer919 on Jan 5, 2012 10:01 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
I shouldn't be saying this but
The speed part reminds me of what they said about jerry rice
by Worl'Boss on Jan 5, 2012 4:09 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Cruuuuuuuzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
My personal favorite is reading the game threads the day after…
it goes:
giants suck
what is KG doing
this sucks
here is the 3rd down draw play
how much you want to bet this is a 3rd down draw
KG needs to be fired if he runs the draw
kg is so predictible
OMGOMGOMGOMGOMG!!!!!!!
CRUUUUUUUZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ!!!
CRUUZZZZZZZZ!!!!!
CRUZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!!!!!
HOLY F@$##!!@$#% &%^#!$#$#$#$#!^^!!!!!
CRUUUUUUZZZZ
(87 comments later)
CRUUUUUUUUUZZZZZZZZzzzzzzz!!!
Regardless of what happens, No playoffs, playoffs, no superblow, superblow.... The 2011/2012 is one of my favorite Giants Teams of all time.
by Skii31 on Jan 5, 2012 10:01 AM EST reply actions 9 recs
that is a pretty spot on
description of the game threads
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Jan 5, 2012 10:06 AM EST up reply actions
Recd for pure comedy value
I never read game threads anymore, but this is funny
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
Football - It's Beyond an Addiction, It's a Way of Life.
by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16
i enjoy reading the other teams comments a day later after the win
it’s almost like crushing their spirit, all over again.
Yes, I am a Giants fan. Now that we got that out of the way....
IMPEACH DOLAN!!!!
The Big Boy Cometh....Team Jacobs
Marines say Oorah; BBVer's say SUAMBP! say it with me - Suuaahmbp!!!!
never thought of that
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
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by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16
Hahaha!!
Same thing in every Giants living room across the country..haha !!
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
If you thought that was funny...
Read the game threads from the opponents perspective. A lot of the Cowboys’ fans were like..
Turning the tides…
Come on defense, shut them down…
If we hold them on this 3rd down, we got this….
DAMMIT!!!
I hate Cruz
Newman you suck
I believe this is the last cowboys game for Newman…
(80 comments later)
Fire Newman!
go read the Giants v. Cowboys game thread on BGN
Its sooooo funny, they can’t decide who to hate more.
Go Big Blue!
Eli called an audible
KG wanted the shotgun draw
I got a GIF for that!
by Fester McDougal on Jan 5, 2012 10:04 AM EST up reply actions
damn you, you beat me
you have made a very powerless enemy today Fester
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Jan 5, 2012 10:05 AM EST up reply actions
This has got to be the ugliest 'thing' I ever saw...
What Circus freak show does that thing work for?..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Romo's housekeeper
I got a GIF for that!
by Fester McDougal on Jan 5, 2012 10:43 AM EST up reply actions
Hahahaha!!!
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Hahaha!!!..beat me to the punch..'Ouch'!!!
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
cause he called a RB Draw to Ware
and Eli changed the play at the line
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Jan 5, 2012 10:04 AM EST up reply actions
also TC has a strange look on his face too
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Jan 5, 2012 10:14 AM EST up reply actions
They look like mean old farts on every play..
I never seen a smile out of Gilbride or TC..and when they pan over to fewel..He looks like a dope..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
so true
a good majority of this team has very odd facial expressions, especially the coaching staff
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Jan 5, 2012 10:22 AM EST up reply actions
the one with his arm up
looks like Kevin Boss… wait maybe it is him, Giants hired him as a towel boy
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Jan 5, 2012 10:38 AM EST up reply actions
Boss may have to throw in the towel after last weeks concussion.
nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!
Just ordered FatHeads for all available Giants. Now I have something to aim at when punching holes in my wall.
HAHAHAH
gross
nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!
Just ordered FatHeads for all available Giants. Now I have something to aim at when punching holes in my wall.
are you one of the yutes?
If you haven’t seen Mel Brooks’ History of the World, you are hereby commanded to download it to your netflix or roku or betamax or whatever you kids are using these days. You will thank me
I've seen it
nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!
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Piss boy, oh piss boy
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
Football - It's Beyond an Addiction, It's a Way of Life.
by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16
Teams can try to double Cruz Missile..Good luck to them..
I don’t care what other Falcons fans have to say…That’s their team, they can say whatever they want..I don’t expect them to be raining praise on our team at all..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Funny thing is up untill a couple of weeks ago..
Most would say Hakeem was our best WR, so Falcon’s can double Cruz what are they going to do about Hakeem running loose in their secondary. Nicks is the guy who gets the double coverage because he was killing teams.
by Late for Dinner on Jan 5, 2012 11:00 AM EST up reply actions
Eli has said
when he see’s Nicks only getting one-on-one coverge, he will go his way every time.
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Jan 5, 2012 11:02 AM EST up reply actions
That's how they beat Cards
They rolled the safety help to the multiple WR side, that left Nicks one on one with Peterson
As soon as E saw that, he ran to Nicks after the play to tell him what to do, next play game winning TD pass over Peterson. No reason to think anything has changed.
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
Football - It's Beyond an Addiction, It's a Way of Life.
by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16
+88
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Jan 5, 2012 11:09 AM EST up reply actions
And if they try to double both...
That just leaves Manningham open.
I love this
Self-praise is for losers. Be a winner. Stand for something. Always have class, and be humble.
-John Madden
The Ballard of Jake:
Stop→Slow→Truck→LEAP!
(Adapted from Raptor 22)
and if they double all three
ballard, rhino and AB/BJake/Ware will be open all day, or in the case of Beckum last week, he will not be covered at all
Regardless of what happens, No playoffs, playoffs, no superblow, superblow.... The 2011/2012 is one of my favorite Giants Teams of all time.
and if they double all of those guys
then they’ll prolly have too many men on the field, and we’ll get 5 penalty yards.
SWEET!!!
Yes, I am a Giants fan. Now that we got that out of the way....
IMPEACH DOLAN!!!!
The Big Boy Cometh....Team Jacobs
Marines say Oorah; BBVer's say SUAMBP! say it with me - Suuaahmbp!!!!
They have both been killing teams
“Who’d you rather” is the game the Falcons will have to play this weekend.
Someone above said something about running on their nickle…….
Absolutely a great idea.
It is better to be silent and be thought a fool, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt.
he is still our best receiver
please double team cruz
No one should compare him to Megatron or Fitz
he’s a second year player who had a huge year and those guys are two of the best WRs in the game. The question is, can he build on it for next year? We won’t find now but having him and Nicks is pretty damn awesome.
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Jan 5, 2012 10:09 AM EST reply actions
He has also managed to stay healthy all year long
which bodes well for future production
I got a GIF for that!
by Fester McDougal on Jan 5, 2012 10:10 AM EST up reply actions
healthy... knock on wood
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Jan 5, 2012 10:11 AM EST up reply actions
Nope, he is Cruz. let other receivers be characterized as he
It is better to be silent and be thought a fool, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt.
Yes, but...
The Falcons receiver told reporters that the Paterson native is in for a “rude awakening” next season when teams begin game-planning to stop him after his breakout season.
Let them double-team him. It will just open up more opportunities for Nicks, Manningham etc.
The value of a player of Cruz’s caliber isn’t limited to his personal stats. He has the potential to raise his teammates’ game immensely.
shouldnt teams have been game planning for him after his first few huge games anyway?
"I like prime rib, and I'd love to win a Super Bowl" -Andy Reid
I hope all this legend and hype gets in the Falcons heads
they can “limit” Cruz to whatever they want on Sunday. Just enough for them to forget that he’s not even the best WR on the team. And Ballard looks like he’s coming back? Just hoping that defense keeps improving.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
I agree. I would take 2-3 catches for Cruz
and the win.
I got a GIF for that!
by Fester McDougal on Jan 5, 2012 10:11 AM EST up reply actions
if that means Nicks has
7 for 106 with a TD, that is good
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Jan 5, 2012 10:12 AM EST up reply actions
Like you always say Rorsch...
CATCH THE BALL
by PaulieTheDon1 on Jan 5, 2012 10:30 AM EST up reply actions
You really like taking shots
at Cruz don’t you?
by The Cole Train on Jan 5, 2012 11:43 AM EST up reply actions
you really like thinking I was taking a shot at Cruz, don't you?
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
i do not think that you did that.
Your assessment was just like many of us are saying that let them worry too much about Cruz so others can make their plays.
He's a good kid
He’s enjoying the ride, not getting stressed over it. I think he can handle the limelight and perform at a high level for years to come.
I agree..His personality won't ever change..Plus he has Easy Eli for a QB..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
We don't know when, or if, Cruz may suffer the first debilitating injury to his legs
why even say something like that??? talk about a jinx
by Plaxico Burress on Jan 5, 2012 10:23 AM EST reply actions
I was thinking the exact same thing..
When I read that I’m like geezus..Why mention that?..Gave me the chills..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Rob Ryan? Zat you?
Yes, I am a Giants fan. Now that we got that out of the way....
IMPEACH DOLAN!!!!
The Big Boy Cometh....Team Jacobs
Marines say Oorah; BBVer's say SUAMBP! say it with me - Suuaahmbp!!!!
Nah....
can’t be Rob. This guy is too clean.
Quinn must go !!
by njgiant on Jan 5, 2012 12:33 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
That's Buddy..He let his hair grow out...You know old people..
They reach a point in life where they just say fuck it..No haircuts, no showers, same pants and shirts everyday…walking farts..try to barter down the price of a box of Farina..Farina is all they eat cause they stopped putting their dentures in years ago…wear different color shoes, because they just randomly grab two..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
too clean...
…and also a woman…haha. Come on man! Princess Bride…Geeeeeeez
seriously...
if, god forbid, something happens to him this game.. im blaming ed lol
by Plaxico Burress on Jan 5, 2012 10:27 AM EST up reply actions
same here, bad images started popping up in my head
DAMN YOU ED
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Jan 5, 2012 10:30 AM EST up reply actions
i'm blaming Sean Kerr
new guys always easier to pan stuff off on.
Yes, I am a Giants fan. Now that we got that out of the way....
IMPEACH DOLAN!!!!
The Big Boy Cometh....Team Jacobs
Marines say Oorah; BBVer's say SUAMBP! say it with me - Suuaahmbp!!!!
Me too..
“Personal foul, jinxing a player..That’s a 15 day working on the honey do list”..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
I don't compare Cruz missile to SS12..
I see him as the second coming of the Panthers Steve Smith..Without the ‘mean streak’..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
bobbi
Victor has a helluva mean streak,he just has it under control…other than BJ or AB u don’t want to tangle with Cruz ! He plays for keeps !
kinda sorta almost in a slight way,think this team is gonna be special ,but dont quote me on it .....im drunk
by Mr.Williams on Jan 5, 2012 10:38 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Yes I wasn't questioning the fire in his soul for the game..
Nor obviously his competeiveness….I was more along the lines of him never doing something stupid, like SSPanther punching his own teammate out and almost wrecking the players career..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
He doesn't seem quite as angry as SS
But he plays angry, we will know the first time a DB cheap shots him. SS would tear the guys helmet off and pummel him, ergo no one cheap shots him.
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
Football - It's Beyond an Addiction, It's a Way of Life.
by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16
Ha!..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Funny but true
I think of that time Andre Johnson pulled off Finnegan’s helmet. If that was SS, it would have been ugly.
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
Football - It's Beyond an Addiction, It's a Way of Life.
by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16
And for some reason...
I don’t think that people would have been too pissed. Finnegan is a dirt bag and deserves what ever he gets.
Quinn must go !!
I'm just saying that SS is an angry tough MoFo
He’d rather break your jaw and get suspended than back down
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
Football - It's Beyond an Addiction, It's a Way of Life.
by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16
+1 Bobbi
Steve Smith of the Panthers is the better comparison. Both are small receivers that play bigger than their frames would indicate. Both believe that when the ball is in the air, it belongs to only them, and both can take a 5 yard dump and turn it into a 50 yard TD. Steve Smith of the Eagles would take the same 5 yard dump and turn it into a 6 yard play.
Quinn must go !!
Victor cruz is not a small receiver.
He is listed at 6’ foot . Steve Smith is almost 4-5 inches shorter than him.
I consider Cruz a small receiver....
when I look at the likes of Fitz, Megatron, Vincent Jackson, Andre Johnson. Those are big receivers. Cruz and Smith are on the small size to me.
Quinn must go !!
Hakeem is thick tho
I wouldn’t call him tall for a WR at all, but he’s much more built than any of the guys we’re talking about here.
The word small seems to get under your skin..........
for the sake of arguing, I’ll say that he’s average size….both of them. But when it come to the likes of Fitz, Megatron, Vincent Jackson, Andre Johnson, he’s small in my eyes.
Quinn must go !!
either Hakeem is severely listed below his height
or Cruz is listed above his. side by side, there is more than an inch seperating the two.
Yes, I am a Giants fan. Now that we got that out of the way....
IMPEACH DOLAN!!!!
The Big Boy Cometh....Team Jacobs
Marines say Oorah; BBVer's say SUAMBP! say it with me - Suuaahmbp!!!!
Its all in Nick's fingers
I got a GIF for that!
by Fester McDougal on Jan 5, 2012 12:39 PM EST up reply actions
Cruz' height
They said that he is 5’9 during the game on Sunday. Everything I had ever seen showed him at 6’, but I always thought he was shorter. There was a shot of him next to Eli on the sidelines, and he was nowhere near 6’.
by Giant Ken on Jan 5, 2012 2:40 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
u give ss11 too much credit
he takes a 5 yard dump and it stays at 5 yards
by Plaxico Burress on Jan 5, 2012 11:29 AM EST up reply actions
I will give him a half a foot
due to ref error… so 5 yard pass becomes 5.5 yards
Regardless of what happens, No playoffs, playoffs, no superblow, superblow.... The 2011/2012 is one of my favorite Giants Teams of all time.
well knowing Vic
He’s always been a humble kid…a lil stuborn & hard headed when he was younger,but he has always been focused driven ! He is the product or the harsh streets of our hometown,he thrives b/c his family & extended family have always tried to keep him on track !! On the field is easy for him b/c off the field he puts in the work !! When he gets that big contract,he won’t change much outside of his address ,of all the pro athletes to come out of Paterson…Cruz is just beneath Rory Sparow (sp) when it comes to humility,this will serve him well going forward !
kinda sorta almost in a slight way,think this team is gonna be special ,but dont quote me on it .....im drunk
by Mr.Williams on Jan 5, 2012 10:35 AM EST via mobile reply actions 1 recs
I feel the same way about him..You said it more eloquently...REC'D
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
aww maaaaan
Don’t rec me bobbi…I kinda like the old Archi Bunker image of u that’s in my head !
kinda sorta almost in a slight way,think this team is gonna be special ,but dont quote me on it .....im drunk
by Mr.Williams on Jan 5, 2012 11:41 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
ny...lower...case...needs...to...be...feared...
“I do not fear Victor Cruz … I think Cruz can be shut down.”
nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!
Just ordered FatHeads for all available Giants. Now I have something to aim at when punching holes in my wall.
yeap
can’t shut down the lower case ny… unless someone CAPS it, thats the jinx
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Jan 5, 2012 10:39 AM EST up reply actions
nope...
Lower case “ny” capped becomes GIANTS.
Either way, fear it.
Cool...like Superman running into a phone booth!
nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!
Just ordered FatHeads for all available Giants. Now I have something to aim at when punching holes in my wall.
Clark Kent would run into the phone booth...
duh
nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!
Just ordered FatHeads for all available Giants. Now I have something to aim at when punching holes in my wall.
wait
Clark Kent, the geeky reporter with the glasses, is Superman?
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Jan 5, 2012 10:47 AM EST up reply actions
Of course...not...he just checks the coin return for forgotten quarters...
greedy bastard.
nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!
Just ordered FatHeads for all available Giants. Now I have something to aim at when punching holes in my wall.
Hey, Superman has to take a leak now and again to.
I got a GIF for that!
by Fester McDougal on Jan 5, 2012 10:48 AM EST up reply actions
Good point...the lower case ny is a humble pairing of consonants.
No caps…
nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!
Just ordered FatHeads for all available Giants. Now I have something to aim at when punching holes in my wall.
ny
for the O = numerous yards
for the D = no yards
I got a GIF for that!
by Fester McDougal on Jan 5, 2012 10:45 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Ahhh...and the legend grows!
nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!
Just ordered FatHeads for all available Giants. Now I have something to aim at when punching holes in my wall.
Like Stokely's package?
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Jan 5, 2012 10:48 AM EST up reply actions
ha...Stokely's package has been limp for months now
nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!
Just ordered FatHeads for all available Giants. Now I have something to aim at when punching holes in my wall.
But Cruz has a missile
I got a GIF for that!
by Fester McDougal on Jan 5, 2012 10:51 AM EST up reply actions
To paraphrase Rust In Peace...
Immense in my girth, erect I stand tall. An explosive receiver, I am CRUUUUZZZZ.
And when he lays the wood
he does not even get splinters
I got a GIF for that!
by Fester McDougal on Jan 5, 2012 12:12 PM EST up reply actions
I listen to a radio show in the morning..
And Tom Sorenson, Sports writer for the Charlotte Observer, comes on every week with his picks…Normally, he has been known to pick against the Giants..This week he said “The Giants are playing at home, I love that crowd, I’m takig the Giants by six points”…
That’s a tribute to every fan that went to the game Sunday..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
That’s a tribute to every fan that went to the game Sunday..
one of the few games i didnt make this year :(
by Plaxico Burress on Jan 5, 2012 10:46 AM EST up reply actions
Don't feel bad about not making it to the game...
Neither did the Cowboys.
nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!
Just ordered FatHeads for all available Giants. Now I have something to aim at when punching holes in my wall.
I've decided I'm blowing a chunk of change on this game
haven’t been to the new Giants stadium yet, so I’m overdue. Just haven’t decided if I’m blowing nosebleed money or good seat money yet.
Man your probably looking at over 350.00 for a cheap seat....
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Oh..that's not too bad then..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
The days of when I had season tickets for 90.00 a game..and
Paid 450.00 for the entire playoffs are long gone…
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
and that was two season tickets..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
yep, long, long gone
it’s a shame, but it’s the nature of sports today, not worth getting upset over it tho it sucks that it’s half a paycheck to take your family to a pro game.
no its not the nature of sports its the nature of the federal reserve inflating the money supply
but i digress this is giants talk not political stuff
ive seen nosebleeds for 150
but that was a friend of mine selling them.. if you’re going stubhub you might be in for a bit more $$
by Plaxico Burress on Jan 5, 2012 11:19 AM EST up reply actions
even on stubhub
shitty seats can be had for ~125 and visitor side on the 30-40 yard line 20 rows up can be had for like ~375
If Falcons fans show up...give them a white towel to wave and help our
Crowd cheer…
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
And
And every fan thats going this Sunday !!! I don’t know about you guys but Im pumped. Haven’t gotten any work accomplished this week.
same here
lol
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Jan 5, 2012 10:54 AM EST up reply actions
Yep "15 days working the 'Honey-do-List..number 1..BBV"
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
We should remember it's still a team game
Tomahawk doesn’t make the big play if the O-line doesn’t block, Eli doesn’t get the ball to him and Nicks doesn’t throw a block for the Tomahawk. Eli works real hard to credit the team when anything good happens, and while as fans we may drool over certain players, we should remember always, it’s a team effort.
by maraman on Jan 5, 2012 10:52 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
+1 for the Tomahawk reference!
I got a GIF for that!
by Fester McDougal on Jan 5, 2012 10:53 AM EST up reply actions
yeah, I think I'm on board with this one too
the CRUUUUUUUUUUUZ thing and the missile is SOOOOO 2011
If we are using Tomahawk for Cruz...
Can we call TC “Tomahawk Chop”?
nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!
Just ordered FatHeads for all available Giants. Now I have something to aim at when punching holes in my wall.
Absolutely, the Earth, Moon and Sun have to line up for the plays he makes to happen...
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Ha...it would
nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!
Just ordered FatHeads for all available Giants. Now I have something to aim at when punching holes in my wall.
Or all blow a big blue-smoke fart to make it look like an explosion...
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Is it safe to say that Cruz just saved the Giants a boat load of cash
With Manningham becoming a free agent, there is no way the team will overspend for a number 3 receiver. Unless the Raiders or Skins are looking to go crazy with their wallets, I see Ham tucking his tail and resigning in the same fashion that AB did last year.
Quinn must go !!
short term
long term they’ll have to pay Cruz big bucks.
Perry Fewell Stinks!
No way
Mannigham will get offers.
Team Ghost: Manningham, Sintim, Beckum, Barden, JPP, Anvil, Ross
Tom Coughlin: "Respect all. Fear none."
Pats looking for a deep threat
I see manningham heading north after this year
by Plaxico Burress on Jan 5, 2012 11:21 AM EST up reply actions
if Ocho couldnt figure it out what makes you think MM will do better
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
Football - It's Beyond an Addiction, It's a Way of Life.
by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16
OMG...
so true. MM can’t figure out the Giant’s offense. Tom would rip him a new one. I said earlier that he would be nice in Denver’s offense. Thats’ as simple as it gets.
Quinn must go !!
He can't figure out the slot position.
1,000 yards and 9 tds last season says he figured it out from the outside. They were trying to have him learn slot for this season, and he couldn’t do it. He knows the outside though.
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
"SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!"
"Eli. Your the money QB start with your leadership skiols which are laclkoing."
by ManningHam and Cheese on Jan 5, 2012 3:01 PM EST up reply actions
I believe Ham will get some offers
but he has not had a good season, so he might not be as expensive to sign as opposed to if he put up one of his regular seasons. Ham very well could find the demand for his services is like the same thing Bradshaw faced. Teams intrested but nobody wants to break the bank for him. If that’s the case I like the Giants chances of resigning him.
by Late for Dinner on Jan 5, 2012 11:40 AM EST up reply actions
Bradshaw had foot concerns
Manningham doesn’t have a chronic injury. In a simpler offense, he could flourish. I don’t think it’s about breaking the bank. It’s about getting more targets and a bigger role.
Team Ghost: Manningham, Sintim, Beckum, Barden, JPP, Anvil, Ross
Tom Coughlin: "Respect all. Fear none."
Coughlin isn't doing any cartwheels there because...
He is too busy picking his jaw up off the floor from the amazement Cruz provided all of us!!!!
by bdasilva7785 on Jan 5, 2012 11:02 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
I love the attention Cruz is getting from other teams...
I can’t remember when the Giants had 2 dynamic play-making receivers on the field like Nicks and Cruz. Plax/Toomer was nice but Nicks and Cruz are proving to be very dangerous.
nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!
Just ordered FatHeads for all available Giants. Now I have something to aim at when punching holes in my wall.
I agree
Plax and Toomer were great reliable targets for a young Eli and supporting Tiki’s running game. But Nicks and Cruz are freakin dangerous, especially after the catch
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Jan 5, 2012 11:06 AM EST up reply actions
Yes they are..and I have a funny feeling..
That Mario could be our ‘sleeper’..He’s been flying under the radar this week…Wouldn’t surprise me if he burns them Sunday..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
I think the same thing
Ham will take advantage
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Jan 5, 2012 11:10 AM EST up reply actions
Maybe Hyno
Maybe Barden, there will be big plays on the table
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
Football - It's Beyond an Addiction, It's a Way of Life.
by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16
I'm going with Hyno the Rhino this week. If the running game isn't working, I think
Eli uses little passes to the Rhino to make up for it
I think KG found something with Hyno.
Hit him in the flat a few times and the LB’s will have to shift over giving Eli just a bit more window for tosses up the middle to Beckem or Barden.
I got a GIF for that!
by Fester McDougal on Jan 5, 2012 12:28 PM EST up reply actions
OK what gives?
with mutiple postings?
I got a GIF for that!
by Fester McDougal on Jan 5, 2012 12:30 PM EST up reply actions
barden won't even sniff the field sunday
devin thomas is getting reps over him….i don’t know where the disconnect is, but there’s something he’s not doing that is not pleasing the coaches.
Yes, I am a Giants fan. Now that we got that out of the way....
IMPEACH DOLAN!!!!
The Big Boy Cometh....Team Jacobs
Marines say Oorah; BBVer's say SUAMBP! say it with me - Suuaahmbp!!!!
These two are way better than Plax Amani
Amani was on the backstretch of a great career, but he wasn’t a double guy
Plax was a force, but he definitely took plays off.
These guys are blue collar, hard core ballers, but with Diva WR skills.
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
Football - It's Beyond an Addiction, It's a Way of Life.
by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16
I agree...
nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!
Just ordered FatHeads for all available Giants. Now I have something to aim at when punching holes in my wall.
Absolutely..No offense at all to Amani..
I speak solely from a tandem perspective..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
How
dare you…….
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Jan 5, 2012 11:21 AM EST up reply actions
Haha!!..That's why I clarified my comment TAWD..damage control!!!
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
too late
a part of me died reading this :-(
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Jan 5, 2012 11:33 AM EST up reply actions
and neither are as annoying to Eli as Plax
and that’s not to mention Shockey pestering him
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
Loved that Cruz pulled a "Tiki"
on his TD and watched himself on the Big Screen to see if the DBs were on his tail.
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Jan 5, 2012 11:07 AM EST reply actions
Me too
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
Football - It's Beyond an Addiction, It's a Way of Life.
by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16
I like that they think they can shut him down.
Underestimate him, please! Thats what the Jets and Eagles did and look how it worked out for them.
exactly!
looking forward to seeing another 65+ yard score from VC. Dont fear him huh? Good.
by Plaxico Burress on Jan 5, 2012 11:23 AM EST up reply actions
I like how no one is talking about Nicks or 'Ham
"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning
As long as Cruz draws double team
it’s a plus for the team regardless of his productions. Nicks and MM are not just going to stand there.
Victor "The Official" Cruz
you can tell that he is a cerebral player. He has good on-field awareness especially with respect to where he is in relation to defenders. His ability to dodge tackles in open field shows good evasive calculation. He knows how to be physical and fight for the ball without incurring pass interference calls. This is clearly not “flash in the pan talent” Victor Cruz will be a force to contend with for years to come.
by LoNJDTechnology on Jan 5, 2012 11:25 AM EST via Android app reply actions
Red Zone, Red Zone, Red Zone.
That is all that will matter in the next four games.
Giants have to score touchdowns when they are close.
Plax may not have done much for the Jets this year, but he could still score in close quarters.
That’s the biggest area of concern for the Giants this post season. Points are at a premium, and ya gotta score touchdowns.
Actually, I was glad to see Plax come back and have some success..
The dopes weren’t using him much early in the season except for red zone duty..but started using him alot more late in the season..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
plus the TV broadcasts make it a point to name a guy as an ex-Giant
Visanthe Shiancoe hasn’t played here since 2006 and FOX, ESPN, etc still mention him as a ex-Giant
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Jan 5, 2012 11:50 AM EST up reply actions
Except for Shockey
They call him an ex-Saint
I got a GIF for that!
by Fester McDougal on Jan 5, 2012 12:10 PM EST up reply actions
I have always been that way also..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
why is there the common assumption that the Giants are a terrible red zone team?
Ranked 8th this season in scoring TDs in the “green zone”
Of course I want them to score a TD everytime they get inside the 20. But compared to past years, this team has improved greatly in getting TDs there.
Biggest concern in the playoffs will the defense
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Jan 5, 2012 11:31 AM EST up reply actions
Yes they are much better this year..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
I had that misconception
would have guessed we were far further back in the pack on that. It comes from one particular situation that we’ve seen A LOT over the last few weeks… the long pass to get us a 1st and Goal between the 5 and 10 yard lines that we NEVER seem to punch in.
yeah
since the Giants are a big play team with an average at best run game, the playcalling in the red zone is a bit odd. But still, they get the job done there more often then not.
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Jan 5, 2012 11:45 AM EST up reply actions
Tomahawk Choplin should deactivate Weatherford and Tynes for the playoffs
That might put a little bit more pressure on the offense to git er done
What would we do on Kickoffs after all those TD's?
I got a GIF for that!
by Fester McDougal on Jan 5, 2012 11:33 AM EST up reply actions
Take a knee..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
have the fattest lineman they have run up and kick it with his toe
Would be worth it just for comedic value
by Oppenheimer919 on Jan 5, 2012 12:04 PM EST up reply actions
my buddy just sent me a text....apparently someone on ESPN1050...
just likened JPP to Goro from Mortal Kombat….
minus the multiple arms….I think he’s on to something w/ that one.
Fire Fewell
If you have to tell us where it is from
us old guys will not go with it… :)
I got a GIF for that!
by Fester McDougal on Jan 5, 2012 11:34 AM EST up reply actions
That's for sure..I'm like what the hell is a Goro?
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
see GIF
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Jan 5, 2012 11:36 AM EST up reply actions
Oh..hahaha!
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
I like it
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Jan 5, 2012 11:34 AM EST up reply actions
This does it for me (its the arms)
I got a GIF for that!
by Fester McDougal on Jan 5, 2012 11:39 AM EST up reply actions
I think JPP has Goro beat...
"The saddest thing in life is wasted talent"
by Larry Soprano on Jan 5, 2012 12:07 PM EST up reply actions
I also heard the "finding bigfoot" show on Animal Planet
is staking out his residence as we speak.
Fire Fewell
lol
spoiler alert: they don’t find shit
by total hermination on Jan 5, 2012 3:01 PM EST up reply actions
Cruz isn't quite on par
with Megatron or Larry Fitz but who is? Andre Johnson and that’s it really. And come on SS12 “foolishly” left? How is it foolish? He got mroe money, that’s not idiotic. Our fault for not having cap space. It worked out for us because we’re lucky we didn’t cut Cruz which reportedly we were about to do.
Agree on SS12
you can’t call earning 2 million dollars versus earning 1 million dollars foolish. In truth this knee injury might be the end of SS12’s career so I can’t get mad at him for making as much as he can. Another bad year from SS12 and he is going to be lucky to get an NFL team to call him back again, let alone make over a million dollars.
by Late for Dinner on Jan 5, 2012 11:45 AM EST up reply actions
Smith got more money,
but that’s because he didn’t give the GIants a chance to match. He left when the team docs told him that he’d have to go on the PUP list. The iggles let him play because they had no clue if Maclin would be healthy, and he was a 1 year signing. They didn’t care if he destroyed his knee so long as they got something for it.
He wanted to play now, regardless of what was best for him… and ended up on IR after a pathetic season.
The only ones who weren’t foolish here were TC and JR.
I understand about the SS12 being foolish ref
I think he will look back on that in years to come and regret that decision.
He had a home here. JR would have made him a fair offer.
We would have helped guide him in the recovery process and not thrown him out there.
His ‘career dissipation light is flashing’ in the corner of his eye right now and it is in overdrive.
I credit(discredit) the Iggles for that.
It is better to be silent and be thought a fool, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt.
-1
I am not ready to subscribe to the view that Reese is a philanthropist. Ask OHara, Suebert, who were just cut mercilessly. Or the jawboning of Jacobs contract down. or any of the fans who got shafted out of prefererd season tic locations, pricing.
Steve Smith did what was best for Steve Smith……cant blame him for that.
Also, I dont subscribe to the view that SS did wrong in signing with Phily….if he gets an extension + if they sign Jackson, they will be a force to recon with for several years
Seubert still can't play,
O’Hara was showing signs of being done last season, JR has no control over ticket prices, and you assume SS12 will be good next season. None of that did anything to discredit Reese, in fact, not wasting 2 million on Smith, and letting aged/ declining players go like Seubert and O’Hara help aid the fact that Reese knew what he was doing.
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
"SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!"
"Eli. Your the money QB start with your leadership skiols which are laclkoing."
by ManningHam and Cheese on Jan 5, 2012 3:10 PM EST up reply actions
nobody is a philanthropist. This is still a business.
So many fan and player favorites everywhere were cut. Still didn’t stop JR from shelling out money to help with Seubert’s rehab. Same with Chad Jones, Giants paid for all of his rehab when they didn’t have to. Every. Single. Penny.
As long as it doesn’t interfere with the cap, the Giants organization is not hesitant to shell out cash to take care of their players.
I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.
by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 5, 2012 7:53 PM EST up reply actions
They have always been that way..They even have a retirement plan in place..That's a fact..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Sooo am I missing something?
“… due to the nature of [Atlanta cornerback] Brent Grimes, I think Cruz can be mostly a non-factor.
Who the f&ck is Brent Grimes? Apparently some guy with 1 pick all year. He sounds Scaaaaaaary.
by The Champs Are Here on Jan 5, 2012 11:55 AM EST reply actions
He's not awful....
i don’t watch him a lot but he’s been pretty good the past couple years.
last year he had 5 INTs and 23 PDs.
but what is up with him this year? he’s missed a lot of time lately….is he hurt?
Fire Fewell
I think the real question is
Is Atlanta’s secondary any better than the teams the Giants beat this year? If not, we should be able to move the ball
I got a GIF for that!
by Fester McDougal on Jan 5, 2012 12:10 PM EST up reply actions
Not saying he's awful
but he isn’t exactly a top flight corner either. And you’re right, he is hurt. Didn’t practice yesterday b/c of a knee injury.
It’s a pretty big assumption on their part to think a corner with a balky knee can shadow Cruz, not to mention the Falcons still have to cover Nicks.
by The Champs Are Here on Jan 5, 2012 12:22 PM EST up reply actions
to put up the number he did last year
he must be getting A LOT of targets, or he must be pretty good.
like i said, i don’t watch ATL games. I don’t think i caught one all year actually
Fire Fewell
yup
even if he isnt great, or is somewhat hobbled, as long as we dont do a replay of the revis game & throw to the other guy/guys, then we should get our chunks. I am sure eli will pikit up, he was merciless in targeting the weaker cowboy sister.
Don't they have Dunta Robinson?
oh wait…..
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
"SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!"
"Eli. Your the money QB start with your leadership skiols which are laclkoing."
by ManningHam and Cheese on Jan 5, 2012 3:11 PM EST up reply actions
i'm just going to say that other teams that took that approach (just put a man on him) didn't fare well
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
Football - It's Beyond an Addiction, It's a Way of Life.
by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16
grimes no clue but....
If you would have told a Cardinals fan this about.Corey Webster and Fitzgerald b4 the game earlier this year. He would have probably had your same respond.
But I’m also assuming who ever made this comment has no idea who Cruz is. 4 weeks ago I made a comment that Cruz is just Eli’s favorite. But what I have seen over and over again this year is why. He is a favorite target because of his ability to go after the ball, adjust routes and leave defense shaking their heads after the catch.
by hit_hard on Jan 5, 2012 12:26 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Apparently they see him as a shut down corner
I had never heard of him before but the dirty birds’ fans love him.
"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning
just looking at his stats....
his ’09 and ’10 campaign was pretty good in terms of statistics. again, i have no clue how many targets he gets and what not but 11 INTs in 2 years is pretty good….and like 30+ PDs. more than respectable.
Websters’ 08 year he had 24 PDs which was remarkable considering teams picked on Ross non stop that year.
Fire Fewell
Just looking at some info from him
He missed 3 games following minor knee surgery to return and play agains NO. They then held him out against TB. Looks like they expect him to play Sunday though.
"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning
Also looks like he's only played once in the last 6 games
"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning
true and if he does how effective will he be
Its not like Cruz hasn’t faced some tough CB’s this year or double coverage. The only way to slow Cruz down is to free someone else up.
by hit_hard on Jan 5, 2012 1:07 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
check this out:
NFLfootballinfoMichael Signora
Including this year, most playoff appearances ever…@Giants 31, @dallascowboys 30, @packers 27, @steelers 27, @STLouisRams 27
Fire Fewell
screw that
FIRE MARA
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Jan 5, 2012 12:16 PM EST up reply actions
I'm also hearing that Marc Ross is going to get a lot of consideration for open GM jobs....
makes sense considering he was a candidate for Seattle not long ago
Fire Fewell
Look for a big game from Hakeem Nicks on Sunday.
One of the absolute best things about Cruz’s emergence is the idea that teams would even dream of allowing single coverage on Nicks all game. Please do that. Please.
Waiting to see the injury report
I hope the Dream is off it completely
I got a GIF for that!
by Fester McDougal on Jan 5, 2012 12:31 PM EST up reply actions
Roddy White is Brilliant
Can’t wait til teams gameplan for Cruz and either leave Nicks one-on-one or double them both and leave everthing else for the taking for the Giants offense. Welcome back running game.
As others have said, it’s funny that nobody is talking about the Giants #1 receiver, the guy everybody in the NFL agrees has become a legitimate superstar. Don’t worry about Nicks. He won’t burn anybody if you focus on Cruz. Just don’t watch the last 4 minutes of the Cowboys game when you’re game-planning for us. Hahahahaha
Best thing about Cruz' emergence...
I felt like the Giants needed someone else in the draft to properly compliment Nicks. Now we already have a double-threat and don’t need to waste the extra draft pick. Although getting a 3rd stud wouldn’t be so bad either….
by NYStateofMind on Jan 5, 2012 1:02 PM EST up reply actions
it’s funny that nobody is talking about the Giants #1 receiver
I don’t know what the future holds but as far as this year, I consider Cruz and Nicks 1a and 1b.
Quinn must go !!
Well I commented a couple of weeks ago on this..I don't see how you can say a guy is one or..
Two or three..When they are all starting…I would even submit that this ‘Go-to’ guy jazz is crazy…Eli is going to throw to the open guy..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
I can almost see what you're saying Bobbi.....
but look at it like this, if for some ungodly reason we had to start Nicks, Barden and JJ12 at WR, who would be the number one or “go to” guy. I guess you can rank them with based on trust level. Who do you think Eli trusts the most?
Quinn must go !!
Well..I'd have to say he seems to trust Cruz more...
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
White's comments
Are jealousy-filled. You don’t expect Cruz to average over 18 yards per catch every season, but how can a team game-plan to stop YAC? You really can’t. Cruz makes so many plays happen after the catch that there really is just no way to contain him, especially given the obvious (the double on Cruz means single coverage on Nicks).
Sure, the numbers might not be what they are next season. They’ll probably be better, considering that he more or less sat out the first two games this season.
Yup, i read that and that he is doing wishful thinking and trying to cause probs for Giants on salary issues. He was trying to stir dollars controversy during a playoff week.
He is not praising at all. He is setting up things.
All he meant was that Cruz has arrived, put himself on the map, and will a larger focal point of opponents’ gameplans next year.
He gave Cruz tons of props. Did you read the article? He wasn’t being jealous. Dude’s had over 1,100 yards for 5 straight years now and already got his payday. Why would he be jealous? Really, he said very nice things about Cruz throughout the entire interview.
This is my corn. You people are guests in my corn.
Ok, but he should have left the salary out of it.
He did praise but then he is setting us up for salary cap issues especially when we play the Falcons in the next regular season. Am not arguing with you but simply stating what i see coming during the week leading to the game.
Yes and throw in the 300 yards he left on the field
with drops and his year was a monster
I got a GIF for that!
by Fester McDougal on Jan 5, 2012 6:31 PM EST up reply actions
seriously hoping that they do try to double Cruz
the options that open up will be more than enough to move up and down the field. Plus I still think he’d get his.
You down wit JPP?
I got 99 problems but a Vick ain't one!
And again..don't leave MM out of this equation..
I doubt they even have paid alot of attention on him..I predict he has a really good game..Can’t double up on all of them..plus Ballard may be back..How do you cover all of that??
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
remember when cromartie and wilson tried to double him?
pretty sure both guys jockstraps were laying on the grass
by Plaxico Burress on Jan 5, 2012 4:13 PM EST up reply actions
The Falcons don’t really do that. They are bullish on their zone scheme. They stay true it. You won’t see them rolling coverage toward one side and doubling one man the entire game. They just stick to their scheme and trust their players to execute.
This is my corn. You people are guests in my corn.
Very excited about Cruuuuuz's emergence....but as far as next year
We can say with some certainty that Manningham will not be retained. So, to fill the WR3 position we can:
1. Promote Ramses or Jernigan or Hixon internally
2. Sign Steve Smith (who knows Gilbride’s offense and has chemistry w/ Eli) on the cheap
3. Draft or sign someone else
I vote for the return of Steve Smith. As I said, he knows the offense, has chemistry with Eli, and should be recovered from his knee issues. Also, he will be a low-risk signing as he will be relatively cheap. I understand we want to give Ramses and Jernigan the chance to develop, but in the short-term I think Smith will be the more productive player at the WR3 spot.
One concern I did not address (due to my lack of expertise), is whether Smith and Cruz have redundant skill sets, and their presence on the field together would take away a dimension of the offense the Giants might need. Does anyone with more expertise know about this? I know Smith is a slot receiver, but could Cruz work on the outside effectively?
I think there's at least one thing we can say about Cruz's character
When the Giants were down a bajillion points to the Saints, and he caught a TD, he didn’t salsa dance. Instead, he just handed the ball to the ref. If that’s not someone with good character then I don’t know who is. Especially in the NFL.
by Jman2 on Jan 5, 2012 8:35 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
That's right!! no time for celebration or reason for it..rec'd
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Victor Cruz
is the freaking man. His vault into stardom began when he destroyed Nnamdi Asomugha
JPP is the kraken
Is Nnamdi better than Grimes? Or is Grimes better than Nnamdi?
It is fun to see Cruz make his double teams collide into each other. Did that to Nnamdi too.
i want Falcons to double and triple team Cruz so Mannigham and Nicks can have good game.
MM is our 'sleeper'...I already mentioned that..I think he's going to have a great game..
And it sounds like Ballard may be back..He had a good day in practice, and they will check him out tommorrow…It’s a beautiful thing !!…Let’s take inventory here:
Nicks, Missile, MM, Hysnoski, Ballard, Pascoe..Can anybody handle all of that?..Swing passe to AB and BJ??..I think not..Eli’s gun will be fully loaded for the bird hunt..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Man I hope so...
I hope they have had him running those routes all week in practice..If they did then wait ‘til they get a load of #13.!!!…Their DBs are squirts…They’d be saying “Rut-Ro”
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
I'm worried about Ballard
I just hope that leg injury doesn’t become an issue next year by injuring it further because we got him playing too soon. Considering I’m not a doctor, I’ll put my trust in the Giants org to make the best decision.
It's still GIANTS Stadium
You down wit JPP---yeah you know me
Oh they will you can count on that..No matter how much he feels he can go..
The Giants Doctors and Trainers won’t allow it..All I read from TCs presser was that he practiced well today..but he added they will re-evaluate him tommorrow..The Giants take care of their players…Always have..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
I must say every time I see the title of this thread I think of..
‘The Legend of Bagger Vance’ movie..I don’t know why…haha
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Gilbride press conference
I was reading his press conference and he mentioned how he didn’t know Cruz would be this good and was basically going to let the kid walk.
Now I wonder how many other Cruz’s did the Giants have and let go on both sides of the ball???
It's still GIANTS Stadium
You down wit JPP---yeah you know me
Yeah I read them all..which I don't normally do..
But I don’t think KG meant it that way, and he has no say anyway..I think it was his way of saying how pleasently surprised and impressed he is with Cruz Missile…
I was also pleased with the Tuck and Osi pressers..and also Fewell didn’t come across as an idiot for a change…There is a whole lot of confidence building here..good stuff…very good stuff…
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
He didnt mean it like that
They had every opportunity to let him walk….an injured UDFA??, trust me if they wanted him gone it would have been easy.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
Exactly..He got injured enough to be approved for IR..They never wanted to lose him..
If they had any intention at all to get rid of him they would not have IRed him..They would have cut him..and I believe they didn’t want him on the practice squad..either..They saw enough potential to do whatever they could to hang on to him..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
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