Steve Spagnuolo Back To Giants Still A Possibility, Says NFL.com
Considering the New York Giants' late-season surge to the playoffs dumping defensive coordinator Perry Fewell and replacing him with former defensive coordinator and recently-deposed St. Louis Rams coach Steve Spagnuolo seems unlikely. It doesn't seem like the way the normally conservative Giants do business.
Still, Michael Lombardi of the NFL Network believes it as not out of the question. Lombardi said Spagnuolo is "extremely well-regarded" by the Giants.
"Had Andy Reid had Steve Spagnuolo available to him last year when he was searching for a defensive coordinator, that would have been a slam dunk," Lombardi said. "Many in Philadelphia think Steve Spagnuolo will go back there. … There will be major competition for Steve Spagnuolo."
Anything is possible, and I know folks around here would mostly jump for joy if this happened, but I wouldn't count on it. One thing, though, is that it appears Fewell's stock has taken a hit.
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I don't know if I can credit the 'resurgent' defense all to Fewell...I'm convinced TC had
Something do to with it..but really, how would I know..The first 13 weeks were horrible..So I’d love to get Spags back..Now if Fewell keeps that defense humming..they probably will retain him..plus alot of us who are fond of Spags, need to look at what he accomplished in STL..He didn’t light that team up..they flamed-out…
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
good point
but Head coach is a whole different beast.
Spags is a natural at DC and I would love to have him back, but let us see what Radio does in the playoffs before we send him packing.
You down wit JPP?
I got 99 problems but a Vick ain't one!
STL had crap for talent
The GM should shoulder a huge chunk of the blame there.
Oh I agree with that..that is why I think Spags will be looking at the talent he'll be coaching before
He decides where to go..It’s funny..there are two types of owners..Cheap nit-wits who conserve every dime..i.e., The Chargers, the Seahawks, the Browns..and owners that spend millions on building losing teams..i.e., Washington and Philly and Dallas and the Jags..Then you have smart owners Giants, Packers..then you have owners who play it smart..like Mara and Tisch..There are others on both sides of the spectrum, but they all range from Cheap to smart to overboard..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
If the Giants win two playoffs games with a strong defensive showing, they'll probably keep Fewell.
JPP for MVP
Cruz control
"Hello...you play to win the game."
This is comparable to:
Dating a decent girl and getting in deep, and then your super hot ex-girlfriend becomes available. “Hey this is been great, well not great but average, PEACE!”
More like
your super hot model girlfriend who you got it in but she left you on good terms. Now you’re dating a kinda cute girl who you didn’t go anywhere with, actually suffered a devestating collapse with and then gained 400 pounds becoming unattractive. Now your super hot gf is back in play and is interested.
by The Cole Train on Jan 4, 2012 12:55 PM EST up reply actions
he had two years with the team
and the Giants D, in spite of the playoff run, was not tops in the league that year.
I like him as a DC, but he’s not exactly built a Canton worthy resume.
In music, there are such things as one hit wonders.
Can anyone say for sure that he’s not the same kind of performer?
Now everyone will say Eli is in Bradys class. F*ck me
by PatNation85 on Nov 6, 2011 4:31 PM PST
I think the only way the Giants can persuade Spags to come back is if
We loose on Sunday. If we win which I hope we do. Radio will get another shot next year especially if we play good D this week.
Why is Tom Quinn still here? I loves me some Coach Clawfin.
then
he will have done his job this week and failed the next. Keeping the opponent to less points than we score is his job first and foremost. There is no way giving up 40 is in the gameplan but shootouts throw gameplans out the window, at that point it becomes about making one or two huge gamechanging plays.
You down wit JPP?
I got 99 problems but a Vick ain't one!
in the playoffs, it's about winning.
If we get lucky enough to face the Pack or the Saints I have no delusions of having the defense shut them down. We’d have to get into a shootout with them, and in that case the philosophy changes and your just attacking and trying to create turnovers, cause there ain’t no stopping them for 10 points.
I hear your point, but at this point every game they win regardless of the score is a victory and a job well done for every coach and player and front office person they have.
You down wit JPP?
I got 99 problems but a Vick ain't one!
What kind of fan are you to hope we loose just to try to bring Spags back?
First of all, there’s no guarantee that he’ll want to come back here. Secondly, It’s not like they’ll have a chance to draft great player in the the draft. Thirdly, There’s no guarantee that the defense is going to be that much better.
In fairness to Fewell, the defense has had of a ton of imjuries.
JPP for MVP
Cruz control
"Hello...you play to win the game."
Myself
I would jump for joy for weeks!!! Do weeks!!!
by weejer on Jan 4, 2012 12:53 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I'd love to see Spagnuolo come back to the Giants. Fewell has had the team
playing more agressively the last couple of games, but I think we’d see that type of defense all the time with Spags.
My take
I think he is more likely to go back to Philly than to the NYG. Why, you ask? Well, he already achieved here, getting a ring, so coming back here does not raise his profile. Go back to Philly, get their defense really firing on all cylinders, and take the talent they have and (vomit) win a ring there. It makes you look fantastic again (which is needed after 10-38 as a HC), and get your star high enough to get another shot at HC.
However, I ultimately bet he ends up somewhere else, reviving a bad team’s D.
He could come here
after we promise him being the successor as our HC.
by The Cole Train on Jan 4, 2012 1:13 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
YES!
you just saved me a comment….i was typing away and than i saw your comment and stopped.
if Spags goes to Philly and revamps that D he’ll just solidify Reid as HC and continue to look outside for a HC job.
if Spags comes to NY and revamps the D, yes, he’ll make TC look good but TC is getting older not younger. Spags immediately solidifies himself as the “next HC” and is able to join an organziation w/ an established GM, Owner, and team that is successful. Granted, PHilly is similar, but again, they have their HC.
Fire Fewell
He'd be an option once TC retires no matter wherre he goes.
You don’t need to bring him in now and have him taking Coughlin’s pulse every day.
But, why would we want him as HC?
Now everyone will say Eli is in Bradys class. F*ck me
by PatNation85 on Nov 6, 2011 4:31 PM PST
b/c hypothetically he's making the Defense a top 5 D
and b/c let’s face facts….Coughlin is older than dirt.
and he may or may not be an option depending if he goes somewhere else and signs a contract.
Fire Fewell
hypothetically. . . but really, what is the basis for that belief?
and you’d need a longer resume than two seasons to support it.
Now everyone will say Eli is in Bradys class. F*ck me
by PatNation85 on Nov 6, 2011 4:31 PM PST
Why would the Patriots want to win 3 SBs
With a guy who sucked at his previous HC stint?
by Worl'Boss on Jan 4, 2012 9:04 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I thought the NFL outlawed such things
as it worked around the Rooney Rule.
Yes it is outlawed..If interested we have to wait...
Interesting comment you made above about fixing a bad defense..I believe one key thing that could bring him here again is all of the talent he’d have to work with..So, it could argued that his resume would sky-rocket if he came back…But who knows..you do make an excellent point..I just think it would be easier for him to come back and fix our defense..all it needs is a tune-up.
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
and I suppose you think no NFL athletes take PEDs either
Best case scenario… Radio leads us to XVI and gets snapped up as a head coach by some stupid franchise (hello, TB, I’m looking at you, we know how you love you cover 2 down there) and paves the way for Spags as DC for another year then fills Tommy’s shoes
Asst Head Coach
The other thing the Giants could do is give him the additional title of assistant head coach. That is code for heir apparent. And perhaps organizationally it means he participates a little more in the overall decision-making, or at least be present to see how things will work if he transitions to HC.
BUT, unless the Defense lays an egg, I just don’t see this organization doing that.
by Startingovervet on Jan 4, 2012 2:07 PM EST up reply actions
that's starting to sound like the Perriloux-Capers practice team carousel
Now everyone will say Eli is in Bradys class. F*ck me
by PatNation85 on Nov 6, 2011 4:31 PM PST
My biggest fear
PF returns in 2012. The Giants success the last two weeks falls under the Good News, Bad News category.
Perry Fewell Stinks!
Yeah, me too..He's destroyed the Giants defense with all his mumbo-jumbo schemes....
We have never had this bad a defense statistically in the 49 years I rooted for them..and everybody can point to injuries all they want, that’s nothing but a blind excuse..This ‘D’ has too much talent to be at the bottom of the heap..The rushing and coverage schemes were horrible..Time to back up ten yards and punt that guy…
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
I don't know what to think of this, either
I mean the knee jerk reaction is to say if you can get Spagnulo back, you do it (and that may be the right thing to do). On the other hand, I think most of my issues with PF is that he knows what to do to make this defense work… he just doesn’t do those things.
I have a friend who is a pro baseball player. He talked to me about going to different teams and playing for different coaches, and how it seemed like every coach wanted to change something different with your game. Batting stance, swing, etc. All these guys looking to make their “mark” on players. I get that same feeling from watching the PF defensive schemes. He does a lot of stuff that seems pretty unique (at least to my eye), which is ok I guess but when they don’t work, he doesn’t necessarily stop trying. Remember how long it took to get out of that 3 safety look he came out with against the Colts last year? And what did he try again this year, over and over? And how did it work? Exactly. Same with the 4 DE set. Same with the complex coverage schemes that are clearly confusing guys (I’m still convinced the TD against Ross this past weekend was some kind of breakdown in communication, btw). Those are things that nobody else in the NFL does, and have not worked, and yet we see them over and over.
I guess I still think PF has it in him to be a very good coach. Its almost as if he’s not allowing himself to be, or something.
right on
and many times DCs and OCs are audtioning for hire positions. So they have to show I can do this and that and try to reinvent the wheel.
Plain and simple
A coach is like any other player. Some are better than others. If there are questions pertaining to a position, then by all means, you need to explore, if not persue the name at hand. The bottom line is that your upgrading for the betterment of the team!
lol guys
Firing fewell is insane. How many d coordinators do we have to go through? We need this unit to stay consistent. Look at our offense.. killdrive ain’t the best but hey we have sucess.. I think all of you are insane to think spags would fix this defense up better than fewell. Fewell stays.. spags signs with a different team. Very unclassy if the giants fire fewell just to get spags. Not a fan.
by wrxsti28 on Jan 4, 2012 1:50 PM EST via mobile reply actions
good thing you are not GM
We would still have Ray Handley.
by BLUEYOU on Jan 4, 2012 2:03 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Strongly Disagree
You make no sense whatsoever. Consistency is a virtue if you have success. PF’s defense has been terrible. Yes, some of that is injuries, but some of it is scheme (as we saw by the sudden success of the D the last two weeks). PF has his philosophy, but the problem is it doesn’t fit with the Giants’ talent.
All of this, however, is going to be decided by what happens in the next two games. If we win them, PF will stay. If we do something else, depending on how the D looks, maybe he goes.
But, there’s nothing “unclassy” about firing an underachiever to get the guy who ignited one of the most ferocious defenses, and surely the best performance in SB history.
right.b
I understand what he did in the sb.. but wasn’t it last year fewells d lead the league in turn overs? You do realize that we went up against.. a rodgers.. what I meant by staying consistent is NOT changing coordinators every two years. How do you expect a unit to get better if they are thrown into a new scheme all time?
by wrxsti28 on Jan 4, 2012 2:17 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
point taken
but the front office woyuld tend to disagree. Stating during the lockout that consistency was a primary concern and reason for sticking with Coughlin.
Consistency breeds sucess as much as anything in this league, just look at the Steelers, they have had the same team for 30years (just different names, they just draft replacement parts ie. “the MLB is getting old, go get me an MLB with the same skill set.”) Lebeau’s defensive schemes are nothing to write home about but that system has been effective for years because it is so well understood by the players.
You down wit JPP?
I got 99 problems but a Vick ain't one!
Screw being classy
We gave up 6000 yards on defense this year. Some of that is on injuries, a lot of that is on questionable decisions by Reese, but most of it goes on Fewell’s terrible, terrible schemes.
There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only BLUE WALLS.
The 2012 Mets: Fortune cookie says come back in 2015
Spags 2.0
I’m really interested in seeing how Spags will be different after having been a head coach. There’s something to be said for going through that experience – being able to run something at a bigger level – and then coming back to a smaller focus. You’d like to think he’d have had his mind expanded by overseeing all facets of an entire team, and should be much better in terms of organizational skills and abstract thinking. I suspect he will be even more effective the second time around as a DC.
Good point that he may return to DC as a better overall planner. If he is good enough for Eagles then we need him back. He was OUR DC not theirs.
He definitely must have improved a defensive mind.
Wooo Hooooo
I just got a boner………
Can he take over today and change our scheme by the weekend?
He goes to Eagles. Who has the greatest need for a DC? Timing matches their plan.
People will disagree on who has the gretaest need. However, I will not hope we loose this week. If the D plays very well we can hope to go deep into the playoffs. If so, PF isn’t going anywhere. Can’t we wait until after this Sunday’s game before we throw our DC under the bus?
Don't get me wrong...
I liked Spags as a DC, but having seen his miserable tenure in StL, I just don’t get the unreasonable adoration for this guy. It wouldn’t have been so bad if his D was good, but it never was. I don’t think PF is the greatest thing since sliced bread, but I just don’t see Spags as that great of an upgrade. I know that we had success with him, but Ithink he also left at just the right time. I’d kinda like to see PF with a full staff of players after a full off season. Also, he was not the DC in Philly when he left.
Being a head coach is not the same as being a DC. Look at Wade Phillips
And what he has done for the Texans.
Would your arguement mean that the Texans should have never hired him after he flopped in Dallas.
He would arguably be “coach of the year” for taking a really dreadfull defense and turning it into one of the better ones in the league – and landing the Texans in the playoffs.
The key to Spags being rehired
is the more time passes that he hasnt signed with Philly as their DC, the better chance the Giants have already approached him thru underground channels that they are interested in having him back for Spags 2. As for PF, I have a feeling Mara feels Giants tradition has been tainted by defensive performance for most of the season and lays major blame on PF. If Philly doesnt hire him in a few days, I think he comes back to Giants in 2012, no matter how far we go in playoffs.
DavebrownNOT
Evaluate
The Mara’s never make decisions based on a couple of games. Even if they pitch a shutout on Sunday PF’s job is not safe. The Maras do not want to see anything close to this defense next season. They hope they can get away with it for a few games right nowvia high emotion from the front 4.
The evaluation is over a large sample of games sometimes more then just one season.
I think (hope)
The fact he hasn’t already gone to the Eagles is a sign the Giants have a chance to get him.
Did anyone watch Mike and Mike this morning?
They had a great piece where the radio guy from Philly (the Fan, mike m or something) gave his take on the Andy Reid situation. Philly management kept Reid, he felt like he should be accountable and fired.
Basically, if you took exactly what the guy said about Andy Reid and inserted “Tom Coughlin”, he hit the nail exactly on the head in terms of how I feel about this subject for the Giants.
A couple of paraphrased points about what he said:
1) Who cares if Andy Reid had alot of good years with competitive teams. He did NOT win a Superbowl. The object is to win a title.
2) He thought Reid should be out – people ask him “well who would be better?” – his answer was “thats not relevant. The point is to change the direction of the franchise, to win a Superbowl – who was Mike Tomlin when he was hired? Who was Mike McCarthy, how has he done? Was Tampa wrong to fire Dungy and hire Gruden and win a Ring?- the point being, Andy Reid is not the ONLY COMPETENT COACH in the world”….
3) What about the Eagles late season run – “yeah, beating four crappy teams with bad quarterbacks when all the pressure was off, and THAT justifies saving his job??”….
Bingo. There is absolutely nothing I can add to this, it is dead on and exactly the way I feel about Coughlin.
If you are in the group of fans that just want a “competitive” team every year, I would say Andy Reid is THE BEST coach you could have, and maybe Coughlin is a close second with Marty Schottenheimer third. All are quality people, respected, with sound principles and all that.
And I would want NONE of those as the coach of this Giant team at this point. The point is, to win a Superbowl and play quality football doing it… period.
If you get a chance, try and play the broadcast back, it really was a great conversation showing both sides of the issue…. and if you are on the other side of this issue, I am not saying you are necessarily wrong, its just a different expectation.
Best case scenario
We win the SB. Radio gets a HC gig. Spags comes back. Let me dream.
Perry wants a coaching job why not St. Louis
and they return Spags to us?
Perry staying or going
Depends more on whether or not Coughlin stays. If he retires, I don’t think we’ll have the luxury of seeing Fewell 3.0 (unless the Giants were to have a solid playoff run on some strong defensive showings).
With spags
I don’t ever remember the guys looking lost and waving their arms to the sideline for instruction. Also the D loved playing for spags. I loved watching the guy coach up the D after every series. Yes I have a crush on spags

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