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New York Giants News and Notes: Week 18 Hump Day Edition

ATLANTA, GA - JANUARY 01:  Matt Ryan #2 of the Atlanta Falcons reacts after a touchdown against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers at Georgia Dome on January 1, 2012 in Atlanta, Georgia.  (Photo by Kevin C. Cox/Getty Images)

Good morning fellow Giants fans, and welcome to Week 18 Hump Day. We haven't had one of those that mattered in a few years--four years, if you want to be technical about it. That's because our last Week 18 game was in Tampa in the wild card round in early 2008. You might remember that in January 2009, we had a bye for Wild Card Sunday and then got trounced at home by the Eagles in Week 19. I know you all remember, as I do, and it hurt like hell. But hey, it's 2012, and unlike Tampa week four years ago, the Giants have a home game this time, against the Atlanta Falcons. The Giants haven't played Atlanta since the 2009 regular season, when the Giants won 34-31 in overtime. This one has a bit more meaning than that game, but don't be surprised if the score is that close again. Meanwhile, let's see what news is floating around the Big Blue Web the morning after an off day for the G-men....

Giants Keep Resilience Amid Arid Stretch - NYTimes.com
The Giants have clinched the N.F.C. East, but their postseason seems unlikely to have the catch-and-run longevity of a Victor Cruz reception. At 9-7, the Giants are the first team to finish atop their now mediocre division with fewer than 10 wins since the N.F.L. went to a 16-game schedule in 1978. Even with the encouragement of their 31-14 victory over Dallas on Sunday, the win seemed more like a consolation prize than the start of a championship run, the equivalent of a college basketball team’s taking the National Invitation Tournament when the more elusive and esteemed trophy is handed out by the N.C.A.A.

Giants have to beat Falcons QB Matt Ryan - NYPOST.com
Despite his gaudy regular-season statistics, No. 3 overall pick pedigree and catchy "Matty Ice" nickname, Atlanta’s celebrated passer has yet to win a playoff game in four NFL seasons.

Well yeah, but that doesn't make the guy any less dangerous, especially with an incredibly dangerous trio of receivers in Julio Jones, Roddy White and Tony Gonzalez.

Fatal flaws of NFL playoff teams - NFL - Yahoo! Sports
To put it another way, every postseason qualifier has some fatal flaw that it will have to get around in order to find success. Here’s a breakdown of each team’s glaring weakness....(the Giants' weakness was a crappy running game)

Giants running attack now a concern entering playoffs | ajc.com
The Giants, the Falcons' opening-round playoff opponent on Sunday, finished the regular season last in the NFL in rushing offense; they averaged just 89.2 yards on the ground. The Falcons finished 17th with 114.6 yards per game. Still, the running game presents a challenge to the Falcons, according to coach Mike Smith.

No seriously, did he watch the film? Or is he just being nice?

Star-divide

Mike Smith, Falcons coach, wants to learn from past failure before playing Giants - NYPOST.com
With Smith in his first season as coach and Matt Ryan starting as a rookie quarterback, the Falcons lost to Arizona in the first round of the playoffs after the 2008 season. The Falcons had a first-round bye last year before losing 48-21 to Green Bay. Smith said it's important the Falcons (10-6) learn from the losses. He said based on those lessons he is planning tweaks to the Falcons' practice this week.

NY Giants mouthy safety Antrel Rolle, no-nonsense coach Tom Coughlin finally connecting as Big Blue prepares for playoffs - NY Daily News
Antrel Rolle was still glancing across town last January, envying the party going on in Florham Park, N.J. He saw the Jets having fun, playing for a coach "they would die for." He definitely did not feel the same. There were moments last season, Rolle admits now, when he regretted his decision to sign a five-year contract to play for a team coached by Tom Coughlin, even for $37 million and $15 million guaranteed. The Pro Bowl safety wasn’t having fun. Coughlin was "too uptight" and crushing the chemistry and will of his players.

Ha! Take that, Rex.

D'Alessandro: Victor Cruz puts Giants one step closer to their goal with his astonishing play | NJ.com
The only difference this latest performance made to his life, as far as Victor Cruz could tell, was the volume of text messages he had to scroll through Sunday night. "There were about 50 this time," he explained. "That’s probably about double what I get."

New York Giants playoff report: Victor Cruz's rise continues - NFL - Sporting News
A University of Massachusetts product, Cruz cleaned up much of the sloppiness that led to poor routes and fumbles

NY Giants' Mathias Kiwanuka knows Atlanta Falcons' Matt Ryan is a hard quarterback to handle - NY Daily News
Mathias Kiwanuka knows what Falcons quarterback Matt Ryan can do to an opposing defense. They played together for two seasons at Boston College, and the Giants linebacker was impressed.

Andy Reid will be back as Eagles coach - NYPOST.com
Eagles chairman Jeffrey Lurie says coach Andy Reid will return for his 14th season in Philadelphia, though he left open the possibility for changes on the coaching staff. Lurie called this 8-8 season the "most disappointing" of his ownership. He also used words like "dismal," "unfathomable," "ludicrous," and "terrible" to describe it.

Cowboys-Giants gets best Sunday night rating - chicagotribune.com
The New York Giants' victory over the Dallas Cowboys earned the highest overnight rating in the six-year history of Sunday night football on NBC. According to data released Monday by The Nielsen Company, the Giants' 31-14 win to take the NFC East got a 17.1 overnight rating and a 27 share, 36 percent higher than last year's Week 17 game between the Rams and Seahawks to decide the NFC West.

36 percent higher than last year's Rams/Seahawks game? Wow, that's shocking.

Green Bay Packers news | Oddsmakers: It'll be Packers vs. Giants in divisional playoff | Green Bay Press Gazette
A Packers-Giants playoff matchup would be intriguing. The Giants came to Lambeau four years ago in the NFC title game as the No. 6 seed in the NFC and stunned the No. 2 seeded Packers. Giants coach Tom Coughlin would love the chance to pull off another playoff shocker on the Frozen Tundra. But first, the Giants must dispose of the Falcons, and the Saints must extinguish the Lions’ hopes.

I don't know about you guys, but I really hope we get to see Tom Coughlin's shiny red nose again.

And hey, for any of you guys looking to scratch a fantasy itch in the postseason, I will be putting an informal league together at www.playoffblitz.com. It won't be for money, just fun, but I did it last year and it was a great way to stay interested in all the games (although this year most of us will be paying more attention anyway). So if you're interested in playing, shoot me an e-mail at mike@michaeljmedia.com. There is no limit to how many players we can have. Thanks (and thanks for the plug, Ed!).

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Up early on hump day

I see that now when Ed is not writing for the Fifth Down at the Times, he is instead being quoted by them. I sure hope we don’t lose Ed to the Times.
A good season this year, we make it to the playoffs and beat Dallas twice. From here on everything is extra gravy. Funny how one year’s joke becomes the next year’s hero. Last year everyone was laughing at Kevin Boothe and pleading to have him taken off the field.This year he is key to our success.
This year’s team could do anything. It resembles our teams from ’90 and ought-seven, who have no beeswax advancing against the good teams. Except team is team, and on fire is on fire. Too late to disappoint me this year, I am satisfied already. Another dessert? I always take another dessert.

I am a fan of Kevin Gilbride and I don't care what you say

by Spider Lockhart on Jan 4, 2012 7:12 AM EST reply actions  

I only had two goals at that start of this season

to beat the Iggles and to beat the Jets

Lost in the playoffs of the BBV fantasy league and ended 3rd overall! Team Figging lived on with its 9-5 regular season record. Beat the (Insert Giants Opponent Here) were just too good to beat.

by ChuckyofNorris on Jan 4, 2012 7:45 AM EST up reply actions  

very well said Spider

but I have to say, while I am happy we made the playoffs and always think I will be happy if we get this far and lose…..I won’t be happy unless we keep winning. Maybe the disappointment won’t linger as long as if we had lost Sunday to Dallas, but I know myself…I tend to get greedy this time of year

by Mike Farley on Jan 4, 2012 7:57 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm exactly the same way.

This quote from the NYTimes article made zero sense

Even with the encouragement of their 31-14 victory over Dallas on Sunday, the win seemed more like a consolation prize than the start of a championship run, the equivalent of a college basketball team’s taking the National Invitation Tournament when the more elusive and esteemed trophy is handed out by the N.C.A.A.

What? The win propelled us into the playoffs. The big dance. The tournament. The whatever. We’re in it. We may be the ugly, single, misshapen boy at the dance…but at least we got invited. I don’t know how that win made it seem that we took the NIT instead of the NCAA. I’d say it showed that we said screw the little stuff, its big stuff or bust.

I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.

by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 4, 2012 8:07 AM EST up reply actions  

Probably an Eagles fan

Cause his pessimism was fatal

It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.

Football - It's Beyond an Addiction, It's a Way of Life.
by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions

SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16

by trueblue63 on Jan 4, 2012 8:14 AM EST up reply actions  

You'd think a lot of these media asswipes

would come to expect that anything can happen. Less than 50% of all 1 seeds make it to the Superbowl in the past decade or something like that.

I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.

by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 4, 2012 8:21 AM EST up reply actions  

Even worse, the writing is so derivative

Just cliches

Where’s the analysis

It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.

Football - It's Beyond an Addiction, It's a Way of Life.
by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions

SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16

by trueblue63 on Jan 4, 2012 8:58 AM EST up reply actions  

lol who needs analysis and hard work when you can piggyback off what the common perception is

and run with it without having to do much?

I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.

by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 4, 2012 9:00 AM EST up reply actions  

Right

The Broncos backed into the playoffs.

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Just ordered FatHeads for all available Giants. Now I have something to aim at when punching holes in my wall.

by nywins42 on Jan 4, 2012 8:25 AM EST up reply actions  

Take that back!

We all know Tebow willed them there!!!!

Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants

by The Always Well Dressed... on Jan 4, 2012 10:03 AM EST up reply actions  

there's always room fro jello

Right on Spider,

The ride to get here this year was a fun one (Dallas twice, NE, Philly for the first ime in 3 years). I too am completely satisfied with how things panned out, (future of this team is something to drool over) but I would always love to see that dessert cart stop by before I go home for a mid-winters nap.

You down wit JPP?
I got 99 problems but a Vick ain't one!

by Flynner on Jan 4, 2012 8:48 AM EST up reply actions  

I can't get enough delicious eagle tears
“dismal,” “unfathomable,” “ludicrous,” and “terrible” to describe it.

“The Dismal Team”?
“The Unfathomable Team”?
“The Ludicrous Team”?
“The Terrible Team”?

I’m gonna go with The Dismal Team because it also starts with D.

nygmen123: Again, without Vick or Maclin, or Cromartie. Injuries don't seem to bother them. They just bring in guys to make plays
nygmen123: Stopped the Pats on the first series. Planted Brady twice. Guess what gang? This team isn't quitting. Or making excuses.
Simms-McC: Yeah -- I wish the Giants were more like the Eagles
nygmen123: In intensity and fight? Right now, so do I.
EAGLES LOSE, 38-20.

by Simms-McConkey on Jan 4, 2012 7:34 AM EST reply actions  

Eagle tears are addicting...

nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!

Just ordered FatHeads for all available Giants. Now I have something to aim at when punching holes in my wall.

by nywins42 on Jan 4, 2012 7:48 AM EST up reply actions  

They are comical over there

Must be the highest concentration of hemorrhoid sufferers ever

It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.

Football - It's Beyond an Addiction, It's a Way of Life.
by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions

SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16

by trueblue63 on Jan 4, 2012 8:03 AM EST up reply actions  

The Ludicrous Team is a good one

Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants

by The Always Well Dressed... on Jan 4, 2012 10:03 AM EST up reply actions  

Wrong...Green Bay Press Gazette...
The Giants came to Lambeau four years ago in the NFC title game as the No. 6 seed in the NFC and stunned the No. 2 seeded Packers.

Unless 6 = 5

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by nywins42 on Jan 4, 2012 7:46 AM EST reply actions  

New Math

It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.

Football - It's Beyond an Addiction, It's a Way of Life.
by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions

SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16

by trueblue63 on Jan 4, 2012 7:47 AM EST up reply actions  

Bastards

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by nywins42 on Jan 4, 2012 7:49 AM EST up reply actions  

What does BGN have to do with this?

It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.

Football - It's Beyond an Addiction, It's a Way of Life.
by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions

SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16

by trueblue63 on Jan 4, 2012 8:08 AM EST up reply actions  

ha

nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!

Just ordered FatHeads for all available Giants. Now I have something to aim at when punching holes in my wall.

by nywins42 on Jan 4, 2012 8:17 AM EST up reply actions  

I really love when they do a hate on the Giants circle jerk thread

That stuff is priceless

It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.

Football - It's Beyond an Addiction, It's a Way of Life.
by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions

SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16

by trueblue63 on Jan 4, 2012 8:19 AM EST up reply actions  

It is fun to peek at the meltdown

nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!

Just ordered FatHeads for all available Giants. Now I have something to aim at when punching holes in my wall.

by nywins42 on Jan 4, 2012 8:22 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

:0)

I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.

Giant LB'zz SUCK!! Mark Herzlich, Jacquian Williams,...Maybe .. Sadly this has been modified.

by Troy O on Jan 4, 2012 10:12 AM EST up reply actions  

yeap, Redskins were the 6th seed in 2007-2008

Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants

by The Always Well Dressed... on Jan 4, 2012 10:04 AM EST up reply actions  

that is correct

Skins were the 6 seed and lost to 3-seed Seattle, who lost to GB

by Mike Farley on Jan 4, 2012 7:58 AM EST reply actions  

Attention...Attention...Hater Alert!!

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by nywins42 on Jan 4, 2012 7:59 AM EST reply actions  

Just call him pineapple

http://espn.go.com/blog/nfceast/post/_/id/34806/nfl-power-rankings-call-me-pineapple

It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.

Football - It's Beyond an Addiction, It's a Way of Life.
by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions

SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16

by trueblue63 on Jan 4, 2012 8:06 AM EST up reply actions  

at least he admits he was wrong

and he even points out in the redskins summary when citing shanahan for blaming his injuries that the giants had injury problems too and look where they are

by The Blood of Eli on Jan 4, 2012 8:16 AM EST up reply actions  

You mean, at least the pineapple admits it was wrong (fruit doesn't get a proper pronoun)

It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.

Football - It's Beyond an Addiction, It's a Way of Life.
by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions

SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16

by trueblue63 on Jan 4, 2012 8:18 AM EST up reply actions  

Yes, he did..then he backhands them in the next sentence

As it turns out, however, you didn’t need to be able to run the ball or give up fewer than 400 points to be one of the top 10 teams in the league this year. Flaws and all, here the Giants are — ninth in the Power Rankings. Personally, I’d rank the Giants 11th among the playoff teams — behind Houston and Cincinnati and ahead of Denver — but that’s splitting hairs.

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by nywins42 on Jan 4, 2012 8:23 AM EST up reply actions  

hmmm...

Call me a coconut for that mistake.

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by nywins42 on Jan 4, 2012 8:24 AM EST up reply actions  

but the best line.....

“Had they stayed healthy all year, I agree with Mike Shanahan that the Redskins could have been a contender. But if a frog had wings, it wouldn’t bang its little froggy butt on the ground when it hopped, right?”

by Mike Farley on Jan 4, 2012 8:36 AM EST up reply actions  

I know we lost

to that frog twice, but that’s splitting hairs

by Mike Farley on Jan 4, 2012 8:36 AM EST up reply actions  

Definitely funny

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by nywins42 on Jan 4, 2012 8:46 AM EST up reply actions  

lol

Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants

by The Always Well Dressed... on Jan 4, 2012 10:07 AM EST up reply actions  

Cause he has to make sure you know that he is still sure that the Giants aren't any good

Even when it’s been decided that he was wrong

It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.

Football - It's Beyond an Addiction, It's a Way of Life.
by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions

SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16

by trueblue63 on Jan 4, 2012 9:02 AM EST up reply actions  

Suck it, pineapple
As it turns out, however, you didn’t need to be able to run the ball or give up fewer than 400 points to be one of the top 10 teams in the league this year

So, we’re talking about the Saints, Pack, and Patriots, right?

by TNYFBG on Jan 4, 2012 9:11 AM EST up reply actions  

sorry, just the Pack and Pats

Saints are back with us in the 370s

by TNYFBG on Jan 4, 2012 9:13 AM EST up reply actions  

shoot me now

yards, points, whatever. I clearly need caffeine.

by TNYFBG on Jan 4, 2012 9:16 AM EST up reply actions  

HA

go get your coffee on!

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by nywins42 on Jan 4, 2012 9:19 AM EST up reply actions  

hahaha!

how does that even happen?

by thatdamHBdraw on Jan 4, 2012 11:47 AM EST up reply actions  

ha

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Just ordered FatHeads for all available Giants. Now I have something to aim at when punching holes in my wall.

by nywins42 on Jan 4, 2012 12:37 PM EST up reply actions  

I hate Alec Bladwin...NFL Award Special Host

Yahoo.com

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by nywins42 on Jan 4, 2012 8:03 AM EST reply actions  

Alec is halarious

he will be a great host

I have not yet begun to procrastinate

by TheWenz on Jan 4, 2012 9:36 AM EST up reply actions  

no doubt. I was sweated through at least 4 pairs of clothes waiting for the night game

and I ain’t even fat.

I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.

by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 4, 2012 8:22 AM EST up reply actions  

lol

I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.

Giant LB'zz SUCK!! Mark Herzlich, Jacquian Williams,...Maybe .. Sadly this has been modified.

by Troy O on Jan 4, 2012 10:17 AM EST up reply actions  

Hahaha!!! Sweat Hog

Why is Tom Quinn still here? I loves me some Coach Clawfin.

by costanza! on Jan 4, 2012 10:20 AM EST up reply actions  

I LOVE having an excuse to drink my ass off in the middle of the day

Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows

by Rorschach44 on Jan 4, 2012 9:06 AM EST up reply actions  

You need an excuse?

Work smarter, not harder!

I got a GIF for that!

by Fester McDougal on Jan 4, 2012 9:13 AM EST up reply actions  

yes

SO true….the only thing that sucks is we probably get Buck/Aikman, right?

by Mike Farley on Jan 4, 2012 10:13 AM EST up reply actions  

UG!

Have we won a game this year when those 2 jack wagons do the broadcast?

Why is Tom Quinn still here? I loves me some Coach Clawfin.

by costanza! on Jan 4, 2012 10:15 AM EST up reply actions  

will they?

Buck and Aikman are more likely to do Lions vs Saints

Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants

by The Always Well Dressed... on Jan 4, 2012 10:15 AM EST up reply actions  

Please let this be true.

Why is Tom Quinn still here? I loves me some Coach Clawfin.

by costanza! on Jan 4, 2012 10:16 AM EST up reply actions  

agree

Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants

by The Always Well Dressed... on Jan 4, 2012 10:19 AM EST up reply actions  

Nope

They’re doing the Giants game. But when was the last time the announcers influenced the outcome of a game? Buck is highly annoying but it’s even more gratifying when Giants win and he makes a sour face.

DavebrownNOT

by marfar on Jan 4, 2012 11:00 AM EST up reply actions  

Damn

well they did every Giant game in the 200 postseason…. ITS A SIGN!!!

Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants

by The Always Well Dressed... on Jan 4, 2012 11:34 AM EST up reply actions  

YES...it is!!!

nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!

Just ordered FatHeads for all available Giants. Now I have something to aim at when punching holes in my wall.

by nywins42 on Jan 4, 2012 12:37 PM EST up reply actions  

yes

I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.

Giant LB'zz SUCK!! Mark Herzlich, Jacquian Williams,...Maybe .. Sadly this has been modified.

by Troy O on Jan 4, 2012 10:17 AM EST up reply actions  

ATL scares me more than GB

We haven’t played them.
We showed we can go toe to toe with GB….makes me think of NE from 2007

ATL, haven’t played them and therefore a new opponent if you will.

Even being a Giants fan, I have to say, the NO and DET game looks like a great game if you like offense.
Could break the scoreboard.

It is better to be silent and be thought a fool, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt.

by SNORKIS on Jan 4, 2012 8:42 AM EST reply actions  

Saturday Night will be great to watch

Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants

by The Always Well Dressed... on Jan 4, 2012 10:16 AM EST up reply actions  

Yep

Only problem for me is I’m going fishing Sat. morning and won’t be back till Sunday at noon. Were I’m going which is about 80 miles off shore I won’t be able to watch.

Why is Tom Quinn still here? I loves me some Coach Clawfin.

by costanza! on Jan 4, 2012 10:19 AM EST up reply actions  

going fishing eh?

Gonna miss the Saturday night game huh?

Cry me an ocean…

"We borrowed golf from the Scottish as we borrowed whiskey. Not because it is Scottish, but because it is good." Horace Hutchinson

No more score predictions...

by tommy d. on Jan 4, 2012 11:34 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

LOL!

Why is Tom Quinn still here? I loves me some Coach Clawfin.

by costanza! on Jan 4, 2012 12:20 PM EST up reply actions  

HA!

nice

nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!

Just ordered FatHeads for all available Giants. Now I have something to aim at when punching holes in my wall.

by nywins42 on Jan 4, 2012 12:38 PM EST up reply actions  

That is just turrible..turrible!!!

You’ll have one wrapped in newpaper in your mail box for that…

"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."

by Bobbiblue on Jan 4, 2012 12:37 PM EST up reply actions  

What does the NYT know about sports?

I’ll bet every reporter there was the last kid picked if you know what I mean. I’m sure they all throw like girls.

by TheGifford on Jan 4, 2012 8:54 AM EST reply actions  

It's about writing not playing

Those are two very different skills

I am a fan of Kevin Gilbride and I don't care what you say

by Spider Lockhart on Jan 4, 2012 9:02 AM EST up reply actions  

And research

Any douche canoe can state the obvious, a good writer brings his research and point of view to bear, makes you think. People hate Peter King, and I think he’s often silly, but he does do his research so he can draw conclusions.

That stuff was just the sound of a bleating sheep.

It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.

Football - It's Beyond an Addiction, It's a Way of Life.
by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions

SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16

by trueblue63 on Jan 4, 2012 9:06 AM EST up reply actions  

well, if it's a "fatal" flaw. . .

doesn’t that mean it would have kept them from the playoffs?

Kind of like a dream team?

Now everyone will say Eli is in Bradys class. F*ck me

by PatNation85 on Nov 6, 2011 4:31 PM PST

by AJ_in_VA on Jan 4, 2012 8:58 AM EST reply actions  

Bazinga

It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.

Football - It's Beyond an Addiction, It's a Way of Life.
by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions

SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16

by trueblue63 on Jan 4, 2012 9:06 AM EST up reply actions  

Not sure I get the NIT tournament analogy, NYTimes

last I checked we’re still one of 12 teams alive for the big prize and that’s all that matters to me

by TNYFBG on Jan 4, 2012 9:04 AM EST reply actions  

sorry BBI

didn’t see you saying the exact same thing above.

by TNYFBG on Jan 4, 2012 9:14 AM EST up reply actions  

Ryan / Coughlin

Maybe I’m just not all the way through my coffee yet, but reading this made me think about how Coughlin and Ryan seem to have two completely opposite ways of ending up at a very similar place. Hear me out.

For the last couple days we’ve been reading about how Rolle is now “on board” and all that. Which is great, but one has to wonder what would have happened if the Giants had come out and gone full Radio against the Cowboys. What if they lost, and Collinsworth had made another BBQ reference? I think its a safe bet that we’d be hearing different news from Rolle on his weekly radio spot. My point being, Coughlin being the “old school” guy… all that stuff about being early for everything, the rules, etc. etc. I’m not going to make an argument about if that stuff is good or bad, but I will say that if you’re going to do that, you HAVE to win. Winning is always going to breed happiness and harmony and losing the opposite, but when the coach is sort of a lightning rod for doing things differently it becomes even more important.

Whats funny is that you could overlay that whole scenario right over Ryan and the Jets, just substitute “**** talking” for “old school” and invert the risk / reward order (the “risk” of a Coughlin approach is that the team doesn’t buy in, and when you lose, you lose the team. The “risk” of a Ryan approach is that the team DOES buy in, and when you lose, you lose the team). The first (and only?) rule of **** talking is… you better win if you’re going to do it or else everybody around you is going to start looking at you like you’re an idiot. Both coaches seem to be in situations where their coaching style puts them in a position where losing makes them extra susceptible to backlash from the team / fans.

I’m not sure if thats interesting or if I’m just not awake yet.

by Oppenheimer919 on Jan 4, 2012 9:05 AM EST reply actions  

Bill Walsh, Jimmy Johnson, Bill Parcells, Chuck Noll

Read about these guys methods and they all come off as sort of pricks.

Parcells is practically a deity here, but his brand of psych manipulation isn’t kind or player friendly. But at the end of the day when they won, the players loved him even though they wanted to punch him in the face.

Why?

Cause the players want to win more than we do, it’s what defines them. Same guys can’t win, and they hate them. Just check how Marino feels about Jimmy Johnson versus Johnsons Dallas guys. Let’s see how much the players like Ryan next year. He’s going to have to squash SanAntonio and figure out how to do something with Sanchez. His D needs retooling, so he’s going to have to cut or restructure some of his boys. That kind of stuff without winning can create as much dissension as dorky punctuality rules.

It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.

Football - It's Beyond an Addiction, It's a Way of Life.
by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions

SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16

by trueblue63 on Jan 4, 2012 9:20 AM EST up reply actions  

But at the end of the day

LOL

Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows

by Rorschach44 on Jan 4, 2012 9:23 AM EST up reply actions  

Right

thats what I was trying to say. Both coaches do things that exaggerate the effects of winning / losing.

by Oppenheimer919 on Jan 4, 2012 10:04 AM EST up reply actions  

Well said!

I hated my high school coach and so did everyone on the team, including his own son. But no matter how hard he rode us, or busted our chops, at the end of practice when he had us run a mile to finish off the day, everyone would just trot by him on the way to the showers and smile at him. He knew we were ready to die, but he always said, never let the other team know you are beat. And no one wanted to give him the satisfaction that he had beat them. It carried over not only into games, but life as well. Never give up, never let the opponent know you are whipped.

by maraman on Jan 4, 2012 10:20 AM EST up reply actions  

You're both awake and thinking too deeply

We down on earth tend to be simple folk

DavebrownNOT

by marfar on Jan 4, 2012 11:06 AM EST up reply actions  

keep it coming!

lol

Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants

by The Always Well Dressed... on Jan 4, 2012 10:22 AM EST up reply actions  

that's what she said

nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!

Just ordered FatHeads for all available Giants. Now I have something to aim at when punching holes in my wall.

by nywins42 on Jan 4, 2012 12:39 PM EST up reply actions  

ha

Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants

by The Always Well Dressed... on Jan 4, 2012 4:00 PM EST up reply actions  

ELE

everybody loves Eli….what a difference a year makes

by Cruz Control on Jan 4, 2012 10:34 AM EST reply actions  

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