Coughlin Has 'Reclaimed New York?' But, When Did He Lose It?

Matched up against 2 AFC championship game appearances in 2 years both losses. I think we know who the better coach is.

But he never lost his team, coaches or the confidence of his ownership.

Fans and Media in New York just like to entertain themselves by pretending they know whats going on.

Its all really funny to me, all the Cowher talk and all that nonsense, all the fire Fewell talk. People just look at the surface especially in NY but as long as his team believed in him and the ownership did then who cares what fans or the media thinks.

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"Ryan “was the king of the city during his first two and a half years on the job.”

The Jet mentality is one of losers. Never in sports have I seen a team and their fan base be so boisterous when losing. Somehow in Jet nation, there is a belief that 2 conference championship loses trumps multiple Superbowl titles. If for the next ten years, the Jets make the AFC championship and lose all ten, that still would not trump the Giants successes….because it’s about the Lombardi…and this is what separates a winners mentality(Giants) from the losers(Jets).

I don’t think anybody ever claimed Ryan had a better overall resume with Coughlin. It’s about individual seasons. When Ryan went to the AFC Championship Game in 2009 and 2010 while Coughlin missed the Playoffs, I think most would view it as common sense that Ryan did a better job in those particular years. This year when Coughlin went to the Super Bowl and Ryan missed the Playoffs, it is obvious that this year Coughlin did a better job.

That’s just Boston media trying to make a story where there isn’t one. At this point, and story having anything to do with the Jets is for comedic purposes.

Keep wearing those “Repeat AFC Championship Game Loser” t-shirts, little brother.

The Jets organization has proven that if you tell people how great you are over and over again, the media will gobble it up and regurgitate it as gospel

While it was at Rex Ryan’s feet. Problem is he hasn’t seen them in about 10 years.

Clawfin: 142 regular season wins

Rexy: 28 regular season wins

Clawfin: 9 playoff trips

Rexy: 2 playoff trips

Clawfin: Super Bowl ring

Rexy: Divisional Round ring

Its nothing new that when the team is hot for a few years, they are the flavor of NYC. Mets in the 80’s and even in 2006 when they had a team better then the Yankees. The Jets under Parcells were the talk of the town as well.

But things can change in a heartbeat and all that really matters in championship wins in this city. The back page stuff is just that, printed words to sell papers and it has no bearing on who the better team is. When the Mets were on the back page everyday because of all their money problems, did that mean they were NYC’s team? No.

Same goes with the Jets and all their locker room troubles, they were on the cover of almost every paper. Even with the Giants in the playoffs, people want to talk about the Jets. All it means is people like to witness train wrecks, not who the better team is.

NY/NJ are GIANT states… Jets just rent space.

and he will settle down to a more normal level….

I’m a critical SOB. Maybe as critical as they come w/out crossing into “lemming” territory, but I never advocated firing TC.

Yeah, i give Fewell a hard time and think KG is stuck in the dark ages, but TC just ain’t that involved in the play calling and decision making that at times drives me nuts.

Sure he’s loyal to a fault but he’s a good guy. He knows how to “run the ship”. He’s a diciplinarian. He’s tough. He’s old school. What’s not to like?

Please Giants fans do not jinx the Giants for sundays game. What is the sense in this article. I call on Ed to take it down. Jets fans do not belittle the Giants, they know the sucess the Giants have achieved all these years. I for one is a jets and Giants fan. I love all new york’s team. If u live outside of new york, u’ll love the two teams because people hate new york sports in general. Rex opened his fat mouth as usual, alot of us hate it and GGN have now realised that Rex’s blabbing is not in the interest of the team on game day. Rex himself have owned up to this mistake and have promised to tone it down.
I root for the Giants any given sunday and hoping to attend another super bowl parade. Lets stop this nonsense of bashing the each other and unite for NYC. Take ur frustration on the iggles, cowboys and skins. Jets and Giants dont compete for nothing. Both play in different conferences. Now lets go get that super bowl.

….media, because he was, is and always will be a better quote than Tom Coughlin. It’s why the Jets were on Hard Knocks and why they get more press.

And as long as the media gets to write the stories about which coach is KING OF NEW YORK, it’ll go to the louder, brasher, more obnoxious one. Parcells owned this entire town because he was as loud as Rex and as good as Coughlin. That was the perfect storm.

But the Jets have a long way to go to make themselves the Kings of New York, because that is a title that can only be truly decided by the fans.

Alright BBV Nation and GMEN brethren. We are heading into the final week of showdownness! Early morning cheers.

to win. thats their role in 2012 = help giants build chemisty. thanks jets. didnt need ya but thanks anyways. by the way, this years christmas was a hell of a lot better beaitng the jets than last years matt dodge graduation from suck to garbage against philly.

1. The unfulfilled expectations of Giants fans
2. The sports media framing the conversation
3. The underwhelming performance of tallents players throughout most of the season

and then not make the playoffs for 3 years

or

make the playoffs every year but not make the SB…Which do you take?

Hint, you just lived option 1….

Rex Ryan came in and took a horrid franchise and made them have some self esteem and meaning. The Jets haven’t done anything and two consecutive AFC Championship games, while the Giants were shooting themselves in the leg and the next season choking down the stretch. Rex is a highly regarded coach and coached perhaps the greatest defense in NFL history.

His mouth diminishes his talent. TC is a great head coach and is better than Ryan but lets see what Ryan can do with adversity. TC has proven to be an overcomer and a winner, that is what separates the two coaches.

But the fact is Ryan was treated like coaching royalty in NY his first two seasons with the Jets. He’s the kind of blabbermouth Jets fans love and NY loves. Rex was winning while Coughlin was losing in dramatic fashion, so yes the Jets and Rex were the kings of the NY media for two seasons.

I was over on the Jet’s board last week, and a Bronco fan had written a fan post on their board about how he thougth Rex’s mouth was making it harder for the Jet’s players. For the most part I think most Jet’s fans agreed it’s time for Rex to shut up and just coach.

I got into a debate about owning the city with a few Jet’s fan’s and here are my conclussions about Jet’s fans and how fragile their psyche really is.

1. Jet’s fans have felt for years nobody pays attention to the Jet’s and have a huge inferiority complex about their place in the NY-NJ sports scene.
2. Which brings me to my next point, a lot of Jet fans think that any media coverage of their team is good, does not matter if it’s good coverage or bad, just the fact that the media is talking about them makes the Jet’s a big story.
3. Therefore because they have a team that is mentioned in the national media and local media that means the Jet’s own the city. Win Loss record is irrelivant, as long as they have a better season than the Giants and people are talking about them that means they own New York.
4. Some Jet’s fans assume that because their team must have media coverage to stay relivant, that the Giants have to have media coverage to stay relivant too, does not matter that the Giants have been here for over 80 years and have won League Championships in almost every decade. If the Giants do not make the playoffs they are irrelivant.
5. Championships dont’ matter in the NYC region, it’s about buzz, the fact that when a survey went out and TC finished as the coach most NFL players would rather not play for and their coach finished as the coach most players would like to play for proves that the Jet’s are now the top dog in New York. Never mind the Bill Belichick finished right behind TC as the coach most players would not like to play for, it’s about popularity not championships.

So you see in Jet’s fans eyes the fact that they lost the two AFC championships is irrelevant, for the last two years they have been in the playoffs and the Giants have not, the media has covered them and they no longer play in a stadium with GIANT’S written ont the outside, which means they have taken over.

Unicorns or Unicorns galloping on rainbows.

Let the debate begin!

I’m pretty sure all the large athletic looking men with him are the Giants.

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Peyton just had another surgery on his neck and it’s starting to look like we may never see the man play another snap in this league. It would be fitting to have his little brother defeat his nemesis while he is on his way out.

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I have questioned the play calling of Gilbride which is very predictable and the scheme that PF uses on defense. I have come to terms with Gilbride. He doesn’t care if you know what he’s going to run. If the Giants execute the play right and don’t miss assignments then it will win. Kind of like Lombardi used to roll. We are going to run the same play until you prove you can stop it. PF has in the last 5 weeks used the defense like we all knew how it should be run. More cover press defense and less zone. Let the 4 man Dline do it’s thing, it’s why we got the horses that we do.