New York Giants: Five Most Surprising Things About The Regular Season
As the New York Giants prepare for Sunday's first-round playoff game against the Atlanta Falcons I thought I would take a really quick look at the regular season. Here, briefly, are the five most surprising things about the Giants 2011 regular season.
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- Victor Cruz -- How much more can we say about Cruz? The guy has been incredible. He has salsa-danced his way into the hearts of Giants' fans, and into the history books. You know you have made it when guys start imitating your touchdown dance, which has happened with Cruz on multiple occasions this season.
- The Giants finished last in the league in rushing -- How does that happen with Tom Coughlin as head coach? Even more amazingly, how in the world did the Giants finish last in the league in rushing AND make the playoffs?
- Jacquian Williams was their best rookie -- Anybody who said they saw that coming is lying. Eyebrows were raised by draft analysts everywhere when the Giants selected Williams in the sixth round -- most people thought Williams was UDFA material. There is a long way to go before he gets there, but Williams might -- just might, not will -- end up being the best linebacker the Giants have drafted since Jesse Armstead.
- The Giants lost to Seattle once, Washington twice and still made the playoffs -- If you are like me you spent a good chunk of the season thinking that, ultimately, that early-season loss to the Seahawks was the one that would doom the Giants to a third straight playoff-less season. As for the two losses to the Redskins? Just think how good that Washington team has a chance to be if Mike Shanahan can ever find a real quarterback. Watch out for the Redskins if Shanahan is able to use Washington's stockpile of draft picks to trade for Sam Bradford of St. Louis.
- Perry Fewell took more heat from fans and the media this season than Kevin Gilbride -- Rip the coordinator is one of the favorite pastimes of Giants' fans -- only that is usually reserved for Gilbride on the offensive side of the ball. This season, though, Fewell has gone from a guy many saw as a potential Coughlin successor to a guy many fans would like run out of town. Gilbride has pretty much gotten a pass as his offense carried Fewell's defense most of the season.
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i aconcur on the seattle L.
I thought that would be the nail in the coffin also.
3 losses to bad teams, the loss on opening day to wash short handed is understandable the other 2!!! not so much..
And the loss to the Iggles
I thought that was way more embarrassing.
At home, depleted team. Vince Young as their QB.
Maclin out, knew how to handle McCoy
Weak LBs, etc, etc, etc
pathetic
It is better to be silent and be thought a fool, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt.
If I could have one game back
it would be this one. I hated losing to them with VY at QB. The effort and execution that day were deplorable.
I give the Philly D credit because they played well, especially the Dline, but after losing to SF and with games @ NO and vs. GB on the horizon, that was a game we should have “taken care of business.”
Plus a win there would have validated the win @ Philly as REALLY putting their precious 6 game win streak against us in the rearview. Instead, I have to hear an angry Philly fan tell me the Eagles have beaten us 7 of 8 times and that our team sucks and is the worst NFC East team to ever make the playoffs.
"We borrowed golf from the Scottish as we borrowed whiskey. Not because it is Scottish, but because it is good." Horace Hutchinson
No more score predictions...
Most people didn't even know who Williams was
I couldn’t find a scouting report on him at most places.
The loss to Vince Young was also bad.
Team Ghost: Manningham, Sintim, Beckum, Barden, JPP, Anvil, Ross
Tom Coughlin: "Respect all. Fear none."
I saw him in on every play in college
but I mean… why wouldnt I?
Regardless of what happens, No playoffs, playoffs, no superblow, superblow.... The 2011/2012 is one of my favorite Giants Teams of all time.
I think Cruz may have set a record for causing defenders to have a 3 stooges moment
3 70+ yd plays, 3 times two defenders doink each other
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
Football - It's Beyond an Addiction, It's a Way of Life.
by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16
lol
doink
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Jan 3, 2012 11:08 AM EST up reply actions
Tied for second ALL TIME for plays over 60 yards
ALL TIME
It is better to be silent and be thought a fool, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt.
The Cruz catch never gets old
In addition to all of his other skills, this guy has balance and is tough. I just worship his desire and intensity. A lesson others on the team could learn.
I can dream of what might be when he and Eli are even more comfortable if that is possible.
He is looking more and more like Larry Fitz, my favorite receiver.
We have 3 team MVPs on this team, JPP, Eli and Cruz. I don’t care who you pick, they all deserve it.
All the Giants should play like Mark Bavaro.
TC, TQ, PF, KG, DD and KMac Must Go!
It is equally worthless when people are always optimistic or always pessimistic. Either way I take their opinion with a pound of salt because I know they only have one setting. I post my own thoughts, not what either side wants to read.
by UnknownJintsFan on Jan 3, 2012 10:48 AM EST reply actions
just hope Eli doesn't fall in love with him
I don’t want to see a Cruz or bust mentality arise. They have alot of weapons on offense and it might just take all of them contributing for this team to beat Atl.
You down wit JPP?
I got 99 problems but a Vick ain't one!
Don't worry..Eli is married and has a daughter..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
by Bobbiblue on Jan 3, 2012 11:47 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
doesn't mean he doesn't have a wandering eye
You down wit JPP?
I got 99 problems but a Vick ain't one!
that is true.
being on a diet doesn’t mean you can’t stare at the menu.
We were somewhere around Barstow on the edge of the desert when the drugs began to take hold.
it seemed that way on that pass to Nicks before the TD pass
it’s like he was looking, looking, looking, waiting for Cruz to get open, then happened to glance over and say ‘oh, hey Nicks is open.’
i think it’s become very evident tho that one receiver he’s not looking for so much is The Man. it doesn’t even seem like they run plays for him anymore; how many times in the past has Eli checked to a little WR screen for Mister Manningham? i hope he can get one good game in this postseason. Remind the league and Jay Arruh that he’s still a very valuable weapon.
Yes, I am a Giants fan. Now that we got that out of the way....
IMPEACH DOLAN!!!!
The Big Boy Cometh....Team Jacobs
Marines say Oorah; BBVer's say SUAMBP! say it with me - Suuaahmbp!!!!
Victor Cruz = American Dream
Coming from a difficult neighborhood and then being able to perform at your best, at the most crucial time, at the highest level is remarkable.
How many talented guys have blown there chance and couldn’t recover. Victor got a second chance and is making the most out of it. God bless him
by brandon7 on Jan 3, 2012 10:50 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Amen to that.
the over-reliance on athletes as role models in our society grates me to no end, but there are rare examples out there of athletes that really are, and Victor is slowly becoming one of those.
He's no longer Victor Cruz...He's 'Cruz Missile'..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
by Bobbiblue on Jan 3, 2012 11:26 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Anyone see the knicks game last night?
Other than an embarrassing loss to Toronto, the fans basically gave Cruz a standing O right before halftime until he did the salsa, then was interviewed at halftime reppin’ his GIANTS coat…proud giant and i’m happy he’s on our side
'Anyone see the Knicks game' is almost a bad joke at this point
stupid ass MSG, Time Warner, and the rest of them greedy bastards. but yes, i did see that highlight, good for the dude, he deserves foot worship at halftime, and 30 virgins, that’s how good he’s been for us.
Yes, I am a Giants fan. Now that we got that out of the way....
IMPEACH DOLAN!!!!
The Big Boy Cometh....Team Jacobs
Marines say Oorah; BBVer's say SUAMBP! say it with me - Suuaahmbp!!!!
We all seem to over-react concerning the coaches
We look at every play, every game, question every decision. We rarely see that they coaches might be working on some longer term projects and are willing to sacrifice short term. We rarely think strategically about what a coach may be doing for player development, or saving bodies, or forcing their heads to stay in the game by using complexity.
Clawfin in his seven years has either beaten Dallas twice in a season, or taken us to the playoffs every year except one. We had one losing season, and that was his first when he probably sacrificed a winning record in order to develop Manning early.
Gilbride had a tough year last year in the transition of Manning from a no interception medium range passer, to the NFL’s best long range bomber. And we missed the playoffs last year, again partially as a sacrifice to Manning’s development.
While I would love to see Spags again in New York, I would prefer to judge Radio on his complete season, or complete two seasons, and let this one play out before deciding how good he is.
One of the things that you have to give the Clawfin coaches credit for, is that even at their senior level (and advanced age) they seem to learn and adapt every year. Look at all the rookies playing this year for example. And look at maybe how we paced the players in order for them to peak at the right time. Isn’t that really what we judge the coaches on rather than if we don’t like the shotgun draw?
I am a fan of Kevin Gilbride and I don't care what you say
by Spider Lockhart on Jan 3, 2012 10:55 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Good post Spider but
All the rookies playing this year was by necessity not design. I do like all the work the rooks got this year. It will benefit them greatly for next year. Like I said if everyone and their brother wasn’t injured this year half if not more of these rooks would not be playing.
Why is Tom Quinn still here? I loves me some Coach Clawfin.
I agree with both you and Spider..In fact, it is a blessing in disguise that our rookie/young players..
Had the chance to get game experience..That will pay dividends big-time in the future..We got alot of the rooks playing time and still got in the playoffs..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
I'd have liked Austin to at least be healthy
I think he was the one who needed the most practice time and simulated game action. Going into 2012, he’s really far behind the others. I hope he was at least allowed to attend meetings during his rehab?
by ross_stephen on Jan 3, 2012 11:45 AM EST up reply actions
I believe he is..
not to sure though.
Regardless of what happens, No playoffs, playoffs, no superblow, superblow.... The 2011/2012 is one of my favorite Giants Teams of all time.
to develop the rooks
the way they did. With no offseason to speak of, AND to make the playoffs in the same year is a testament to this coaching staff.
If they could somehow get Spags back, I’d be all for it. But shy of that I’ll take my chances with Radio and Coughlin next year.
You down wit JPP?
I got 99 problems but a Vick ain't one!
Yeah..pretty amazing stuff IMO..
The Giants braintrust are going to have one heck of hard time figuring things out after we win the Super Bowl, on what to do with these guys..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
I posted this in the last thread and says alot about point #4
even if the Giants beat the redskins (2), eagles and seahawks, making them 13-3… they would STILL be in the same spot they are now… the 4 seed playing the Falcons.
Very odd how things work out in the end.
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Jan 3, 2012 11:06 AM EST reply actions
Perhaps
But I would certainly have lower blood pressure had they done things the easy way.
by The Champs Are Here on Jan 3, 2012 11:17 AM EST up reply actions
well that's on you
time to step up your off-season conditioning program, get that blood pressure down where it needs to be so you’re up to the challenge of a 21 week season. Champions are made in the off season, now dig deep, take your Lasix, and FINISH!
Sincerely,
TC
PS: No painkillers. They make the mind fuzzy
I got a GIF for that!
by Fester McDougal on Jan 3, 2012 11:22 AM EST up reply actions
I don't think being a Giants fan will ever lower one's Blood Pressure...
I speak from 49 years experience..The most consistent skill they have never lacked, ever..Is stressing the fans out..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
easy way
is for Yankee fans during the summer.
This is way more fun if ya ask me.
You down wit JPP?
I got 99 problems but a Vick ain't one!
Of course had they done it the easy way...
they might not be as ‘battle tested’ and ready for playoff mentality.
I am just happy for Tom Coughlin..
Finally we can bury that ‘Second half of the Season Collapse’ jazz..Wasn’t the prettiest ways to get here but who cares now?..We’re in the tournament, we’re peaking and we are dangerous..and the Williams pick?..I scratched my nuts over that one..but man..He’s going to be a good one..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
1st comment ever!
I have been a bbv fan for a few years and I check this site a few times a day, year round. THANKS writers and commenters…I have a thought i’d like opinion on..I have seen y’all rip ‘radio’ all season long and have agreed, why rush only 3 all game with our lineup?? Now I am starting to wonder…knowing that teams game plan based on tape, is it possible the plan all along was to mainly rush 3 until the end of the season? If you can make the playoffs and only reveal half of your blitzes on tape during the season, you can overwhelm them when it counts cause they aren’t prepared for it…my theory is radio purposely held back until 2 weeks ago and the dallas game was the ‘playoff playbook’ that no one has seen on film yet…
g o d i s L O V E i s g o d
by 2TONE on Jan 3, 2012 11:22 AM EST via mobile reply actions 1 recs
don't think that was the plan, i think it went more like:
“Holy crap I’m gonna get fired if we keep playing like this”
Welcome
I think the D Leaders basically told PF that he had to water it down and unleash the Kracken!
I got a GIF for that!
by Fester McDougal on Jan 3, 2012 11:24 AM EST up reply actions
I think that may be spot on
T.C. : Games 1-13 “the Umbrella Zone isnt working, players are complaining it makes them less aggressive… what are we doing to fix this”
T.C. :Game 14 “I gave you 13 weeks, players are about to quit on you. If I see a 3-man rush you are fired on monday”
T.C. : Game 15 “I told you, Radio… and yes, I know that is what they call you in the forums… you nitwit!”
Regardless of what happens, No playoffs, playoffs, no superblow, superblow.... The 2011/2012 is one of my favorite Giants Teams of all time.
I was there, it did
All the Giants should play like Mark Bavaro.
TC, TQ, PF, KG, DD and KMac Must Go!
It is equally worthless when people are always optimistic or always pessimistic. Either way I take their opinion with a pound of salt because I know they only have one setting. I post my own thoughts, not what either side wants to read.
by UnknownJintsFan on Jan 3, 2012 11:54 AM EST up reply actions
sweet!! my powers of observation are almost Bomar like
Praise be to Bomar!
Regardless of what happens, No playoffs, playoffs, no superblow, superblow.... The 2011/2012 is one of my favorite Giants Teams of all time.
Sounds good but no way
PF was pressured by 3 or 4 guys on Defense to let guys do what they do best after Washington debacle.
DavebrownNOT
Thanks for the post..I wish I could buy into your theory..but I can't..
I think Coughlin had alot to do with the last two games..I still want Fewell to go..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Welcome - Spags did this once
Welcome to the posting part of the boards.
I had a similar theory when Spags was hired. We were playing Philly in game #4, and we lost to GB and DAL bad, then beat the Redskins with a little fancier plan, then in Philly we unleashed a fantastic and elaborate plan. So, was it the idea to hide the plan, or did it take 4 games for the players to execute? I don’t know. But I do believe that Spags wanted to hold some stuff back.
We certainly held things back from the Patriots in the 07 week 17 game. just in case we needed them in the playoffs.
by ross_stephen on Jan 3, 2012 11:49 AM EST up reply actions
Cool to see another fan jump in
In response I have said for quite awhile now that this cushy zone thing was what he could do. It was the safe way to not put too much pressure on one individual (weakest link).
I think they knew the mistakes were gonna be a factor this year with having as many new components as they had, and they spent a good deal of the season trying to limit the impact of these mistakes by having somebody else deep to prevent the huge play. Didn’t always work but that was what I think the thought was.
Now that he has had the same people for a few games (knock on wood) He seems to be getting a bit more aggressive in his playcall. Trusting the guys he has to do the job of the position they are familiar with rather than questioning whether or not the players will know the assignment of the position they are filling in for.
You down wit JPP?
I got 99 problems but a Vick ain't one!
Another budding star
is HH. Becoming an awesome FB and can catch out of the backfield and uses his body to power for every yard. A potent new weapon for Eli, which will help open middle of the field more. I thought his 3 catches on 3rd TD drive left ’Boys looking helpless.
DavebrownNOT
prob because they didn't cover him lol
i like him but lets temper expectations here. how many FBs would you say play more than 3-5 seasons? 1%?
The last time I heard
about NFL career statistics (which was a while ago) the average NFL career was something in the range of 3-4 years. A good blocking fullback, like Lorenzo Neal or Cory Schlesinger can play for quite a long time though. Full backs are out of fashion though, which I think contributes to their current short career as much as the toll on their bodies.
Tony Richardson
Jim Kleinsasser just retired after 14 years. Vonta Leach has gotta be near 10 now. It can definitely be done even in this day and age.
Can be done but unlikely
Just saying expecting a FB to be a star is likely going to disappoint.
As unlikley as
Charles Way?!

Haha. I don’t mention that to be contrarian, I just wanted to post a picture of one of my all-time favorite Giants. What a weird season 1997 was. Behind the eight-ball, the Giants had to sweep their NFC rivals Philly, Washington, and Dallas in consecutive weeks to get into the playoffs. i also think that was the first time an NFC East team beat all others in their conference (including Arizona) in the same season.
But yeah, usually fullbacks don’t attain star status, but man it’s awesome when they do :)
He used it as a battering ram
Loved Charles Way
Why is Tom Quinn still here? I loves me some Coach Clawfin.
Maurice Carthon was another animal..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
he was a beast for us for a few seasons
always will have a soft spot in my heart for Mr. Way. he’ll always be one the better backs in our history that won’t be mentioned with the rest.
Yes, I am a Giants fan. Now that we got that out of the way....
IMPEACH DOLAN!!!!
The Big Boy Cometh....Team Jacobs
Marines say Oorah; BBVer's say SUAMBP! say it with me - Suuaahmbp!!!!
Sadly a career to short
in 97 i was screaming for him to make the probowl but Mike Alstott won the popularity contest ..
Way had over 1000 yds from scrimmage that yr.
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
Giant LB'zz SUCK!! Mark Herzlich, Jacquian Williams,...Maybe .. Sadly this has been modified.
Shout out to
Carthon and Way. Great Giants in their own right. Here’s hoping Hyno joins them in the Giants FB pantheon.
We never cover fullbacks in the redzone
It’s time we return the favor and have someone who can
Self-praise is for losers. Be a winner. Stand for something. Always have class, and be humble.
-John Madden
The Ballard of Jake:
Stop→Slow→Truck→LEAP!
(Adapted from Raptor 22)
They didnt have enuf guys to cover him and our receivers
And wouldnt you settle for HH leading our backs thru holes for the next 4 years? Then we can worry about who will be our next stud at FB.
DavebrownNOT
Yeah that guy can catch and he's a wrecking ball as a blocker..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
When you double MM, Cruz and Nicks
anyone you run out of the backfield will be wide open…
Regardless of what happens, No playoffs, playoffs, no superblow, superblow.... The 2011/2012 is one of my favorite Giants Teams of all time.
The Fullback has lost prominence in the league over the last several years..Teams don't have..
Packages for a FB anymore..My dream is the Giants ressurect that position..and use it as a scary thing for teams to have to face..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
also too...
Was the dallas game our first game all season that we never trailed?
g o d i s L O V E i s g o d
by 2TONE on Jan 3, 2012 11:29 AM EST via mobile reply actions
yeap
pretty sure it was
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Jan 3, 2012 11:35 AM EST up reply actions
Yes it was..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
I don't over react about Fewell...
facts are facts, he had a crap D all season. Sure there were games in there like the first Philly game and NE where you could say that Fewell did some nice things, but mainly the Players played well in spite of being one of worst teams in the leauge in Yards per game. They were bad vs. the run AND the pass.
the Giants making the playoffs should not take away from any of this, just like at the begining of the year when they were winning, we shouldn’t have turned a blind eye to all the deficiencies on Defense.
Yes, the Giants won the East….and beat out 2 .500 teams. But Fewell never really changed anything until the week leading up to the Jets game. essentially w/ the season on the line and most likely his job.
he deserved the heat he took…and still does IMO.
and Gilbride shouldn’t be patting himself on the back either b/c somone’s game plan is WORSE than his.
Fire Fewell
I agree on P.F.
just because he finally gave into BBV doesnt mean that he is completely absolved from blame….
He deserved the heat, and the last 2 weeks prove that.
Regardless of what happens, No playoffs, playoffs, no superblow, superblow.... The 2011/2012 is one of my favorite Giants Teams of all time.
Yes Yes Yes
I have a very hard time Believing that either one of these coordinators were behind what happened in the first half of the game against the Cowboys (for that matter the second half of the Jets game too).
Both sides of the ball looked totally different than anything we have seen in 2 years!! Particularly the Offense….. the play calling was imaginative and aggressive at the right times. It was the first time since KG has been the OC that I (with my limited knowledge of NFL Play calling) wasn’t able to predict 90% of the calls. I did not see a KG offense out there, i saw an offense that made sense. KG gets a lot of credit for all of the numbers his offense puts up, but i believe its the exceptional talent and effort put forth by individuals that are the reason for it. I would not be surprised if TC was calling those plays himself.
Same could be said for the Defense… we have seen PF do some really head scratching thing for 2 years now. while i do give him a bit of a pass this year due to the injuries and what not, he did the same things last year. I attributed a lot of that to the players and coached learning each-others system. this year i feel he was exposed because he didn’t have the talent pool to compensate for his mistakes. with that being said, I just don’t think a total change in style, completion and personality of a team with the season on the line comes from PF suddenly figuring it out.
a good head coach (TC) will tell his guys this is how its going to be. TC being the class act that he is, more than likely listened to his players, then pulled KG and PF aside and gave them their orders in a manner that would allow them to save face. Thats what good LEADERS do.
the 3rd quarter is what made me believe this to be true. we took our foot off the gas thinking we could just run out the clock.. we were flat, predictable, and did the same things we did all season long on both sides of the ball. If i were up by 21and calling the game as a HC i’d probably give the play calling duty back to the coordinators too. Once it was apparent that Dallas wasnt going to roll over and they made it a game, what happened? we went back to that first half game plan and sealed the game.
I just dont think the coordinators were as responsible for this game as one might think.. too much on the line… Play offs, Jobs, ect
"...with the seson on the line and most likely hisw job."
and probably ubder direct orders from TC
If Spags is available, I want him.
I also agree on P.F.
The most obvious example of just how flawed Radio’s thinking is was the waaaaaaaay over used 3 man rush, which consistently failed, when the ONE THING your defense has is a pass rush! There were many many other deficiencies to his Co-ordinating but the fact that he stuck with that plan as long as he did is very concerning.
As much as I think we could improve on Gilbride, we’re so far in now with him that I feel we’re just as well to stick with him. We could do a lot worse. That being said, if Eli is a Giant for another 8 – 10 years maybe it’s better to cut bait sooner than later.
by DJ Farnaquelhe on Jan 3, 2012 6:36 PM EST up reply actions
I was out of town for a bit...
and the site isn’t auto-loading comments like it use to. Is it no longer used or is it my browser.
Conan!, What is good in Football?!
Daa.... to run between the tackles,
To drive the linebackers before you,
And to hear the lamentations of the cheerleaders.
nevermind
Conan!, What is good in Football?!
Daa.... to run between the tackles,
To drive the linebackers before you,
And to hear the lamentations of the cheerleaders.
by The Pale Scot on Jan 3, 2012 11:43 AM EST up reply actions
I rarely post nowadays since my favorite player isn’t on the team anymore.
I just wanted to say that Seattle is a pretty good team. They beat us, the ravens, eagles. 5 of their games were lost by difference of 2,3,6,2, and 3 but a win is a win and a lost is a lost. They have quite the RB in Lynch as well.
Feagles who? Sean Landeta who?
no one will ever see that...
they are in the NFC West; therefore not a good team.
Regardless of what happens, No playoffs, playoffs, no superblow, superblow.... The 2011/2012 is one of my favorite Giants Teams of all time.
screw seattle
That OT fart cost me money.
nygmen123: Again, without Vick or Maclin, or Cromartie. Injuries don't seem to bother them. They just bring in guys to make plays
nygmen123: Stopped the Pats on the first series. Planted Brady twice. Guess what gang? This team isn't quitting. Or making excuses.
Simms-McC: Yeah -- I wish the Giants were more like the Eagles
nygmen123: In intensity and fight? Right now, so do I.
EAGLES LOSE, 38-20.
by Simms-McConkey on Jan 3, 2012 5:29 PM EST up reply actions
It has been quite a year hasn't it
Its been crazy, but you could do a lot worse as a fan as far as storylines to pay attention to. Thanks to Ed and to the posters here for helping make watch games more interesting. Its funny to think back to just a few years ago when I would watch games and find out stuff like what guys’ injury situation was right before kickoff from the TV crew. It almost seems… uncivilized.
So a couple months ago I was out jogging with my wife and we got followed home by a starving kitten somebody had dumped. Long story short the kitten really took to our dog, so we wound up with a new kitten. She went unnamed for a long time… until Sunday night. Meet “Cruz” the cat:
This was during the 4th quarter… clearly our animals figured the Giants had the game in hand at that point. I have no idea how they sleep, as the room with the TV is basically constant shrieking and yelling during games.
by Oppenheimer919 on Jan 3, 2012 11:54 AM EST reply actions 6 recs
Strays and mixes are usually the best pets
they will always be grateful for the food, family and friends.. and nice warm bodies to sleep on top of.
Regardless of what happens, No playoffs, playoffs, no superblow, superblow.... The 2011/2012 is one of my favorite Giants Teams of all time.
Yep she ate so much the first week
she got all round and weird looking. I have to admit its fun to yell “cruuuuuuuuz” at a kitten.
by Oppenheimer919 on Jan 3, 2012 2:54 PM EST up reply actions
cats
That’s nothing. I used to have a cat that after I went to bed I’d find him on my pillow with his body wrapped around my head when I woke up the next morning. This same cat used to sleep on a window ledge with his head on the butt of an older cat. Must have thought the newer one was her baby? Go figure!
by Robert Essigman on Jan 3, 2012 10:40 PM EST up reply actions
this week... once again...
its goin down like the catalina wine mixer
by The Blood of Eli on Jan 3, 2012 11:57 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
this
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Jan 3, 2012 11:58 AM EST up reply actions
from the movie Step Brothers
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Jan 3, 2012 12:02 PM EST up reply actions
i started saying it mid last week in every thread
apparently it worked
by The Blood of Eli on Jan 3, 2012 12:10 PM EST up reply actions
dang trend setter you!!!!
what do you think?? you are canada??
Regardless of what happens, No playoffs, playoffs, no superblow, superblow.... The 2011/2012 is one of my favorite Giants Teams of all time.
Addition
one of the most surprising things has to be the degree of dominance by JPP. We saw flashes last year, but he is now one of the best DEs in the NFL in year 2! Did not expect that before the season began.
Excellent point..JPP has made incredible progress very quickly..
And his engine isn’t even warmed up yet…Dang !!..That guy is going to tear the league up for many years..We haven’t had a guy like that since LT..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
I must sheepishly admit that I immitated that dance in my living room Sunday night...
In front of the wife and kids…She laughed..but the kids just looked at me and said: “Dad, you can’t dance !!!”..So I sat back down..LOL
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Your wife is an Eagles fan right?
She passed the deprecation genes to the kids.
Who cares if you can’t salsa like Cruz. Neither can most of us older folk. It is a victory dance, all forms allowed. The intent is what makes it great.
But we might pay to have Fester put up a .gif of it.
All the Giants should play like Mark Bavaro.
TC, TQ, PF, KG, DD and KMac Must Go!
It is equally worthless when people are always optimistic or always pessimistic. Either way I take their opinion with a pound of salt because I know they only have one setting. I post my own thoughts, not what either side wants to read.
by UnknownJintsFan on Jan 3, 2012 12:34 PM EST up reply actions
No she is the Dallas fan..The boys are Eagles fans (DRAT!!)..
They stuck with Mommy and were rooting for the Cowboys..So it was them against me and my silly dance impressions..Ultimately, I was no match for them…haha
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
It's a bitch doing that dance with twelve beers in you..So I'm proud of myself..LOL
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
funny, I find it far easier with 12 beers in me
than sober.
“Beer: Helping white men dance for thousands of years.”
Now that is funny!
All the Giants should play like Mark Bavaro.
TC, TQ, PF, KG, DD and KMac Must Go!
It is equally worthless when people are always optimistic or always pessimistic. Either way I take their opinion with a pound of salt because I know they only have one setting. I post my own thoughts, not what either side wants to read.
by UnknownJintsFan on Jan 3, 2012 1:44 PM EST up reply actions
Eagles fans?!?
Outside the obvious question of, are you sure they are yours? How can you let this happen?
My boys asked me about that just the other day, as they know I despise the Eagles more than anything. They asked what I would do if they liked the Eagles, I told them I wouldn’t let them in the house, ever again… and they aren’t even teenagers yet.
Hahaha!!!..I told a guy last week..the only thing I can think of..
Is I fed them too many green vegetables, and not enough blueberries..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
LOL
I think there was allot of “ugly” salsa dancing Sunday night. To be continued….
good idea
likewise
nygmen123: Again, without Vick or Maclin, or Cromartie. Injuries don't seem to bother them. They just bring in guys to make plays
nygmen123: Stopped the Pats on the first series. Planted Brady twice. Guess what gang? This team isn't quitting. Or making excuses.
Simms-McC: Yeah -- I wish the Giants were more like the Eagles
nygmen123: In intensity and fight? Right now, so do I.
EAGLES LOSE, 38-20.
by Simms-McConkey on Jan 3, 2012 5:32 PM EST up reply actions
We went from Sept 9 to Nov 23 without putting anyone on IR
Our serious injuries were very front loaded. A lot of guys were banged up, but stayed on the roster and came back. After Goff went down we lost no one until Coe, Clayton, Beatty and Andrews in the last month. All in all it evened out and we ended up about as healthy as you can expect a team to be.
Blue is the color of melancholy and honesty
Green is the color of inexperience, envy and nausea.
great post , Ed
Not precisely related, but I’d just like to say to anybody who still questions the job Jerry Reese is doing
Jaicquan Williams
Jason Pierre Paul
Victor Cruz
3 guys that NOBODY saw coming are major contributors to this team.
JPP was a first round pick and was considered to have massive potential. He was just extremely raw having played only 1 season of major college football, and in a weak conference as well.
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by Frank Campagnola on Jan 3, 2012 3:18 PM EST up reply actions
Add Ballard n Boothe take out JPP.
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
Giant LB'zz SUCK!! Mark Herzlich, Jacquian Williams,...Maybe .. Sadly this has been modified.
Can't take JPP out.
There were so many people who thought he was gonna be a bust, should not have been taken #15, don’t draft people because of back flips ect ect… Tell me one person out of that draft you would rather have? Maybe Suh, but that dude’s looks like he’s a head case.
by 91SBLASTGAME on Jan 3, 2012 11:07 PM EST up reply actions
Bradshaw was a 7th rounder
Herz a UDFA, Sash a 6th rounder, etc…
Reese works the back part of the draft better than anyone. Maybe we should start trading our 3rd rounders for multiple 6th and 7th rounders :-)
besides everything you could expect from a late-round rookie?
looks like they could become starters in time.
nygmen123: Again, without Vick or Maclin, or Cromartie. Injuries don't seem to bother them. They just bring in guys to make plays
nygmen123: Stopped the Pats on the first series. Planted Brady twice. Guess what gang? This team isn't quitting. Or making excuses.
Simms-McC: Yeah -- I wish the Giants were more like the Eagles
nygmen123: In intensity and fight? Right now, so do I.
EAGLES LOSE, 38-20.
by Simms-McConkey on Jan 3, 2012 5:34 PM EST up reply actions
Eli
One of the most surprising things about this season for me (maybe others saw it coming) was the blossoming of Eli. A complete body of work, and completely spectacular. Looking at his performance the previous seasons, I did not see this coming – the pocket presence, the willingness to throw the ball away to live to fight another down, the relentless 16-game pinpoint accuracy, the go-get-it-done in the 2-minute drill no matter what the handicap, the ability & willingness to distribute the ball to a large number of recievers, etc, etc. Seen flashes of all this before – but never so completely on display for an entire season. For me, this was by far & away the biggest positive surprise of the season
many BBVers
didn’t buy into ESPN constant criticism of Eli. We had lots of confidence in Eli.
Perry Fewell Stinks!
This time last year....
I can point to many posts on BBV, where Eli & “Regression” and Eli and “Bone headed” were used in the same sentence. If there was clairvoiance on BBvers part, it was not abundantly in evidence. The criticism he faced last year was fair, and due, imho
Eli..He is poised to win another Super Bowl...
He straightened all his kinks out during the off season…
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Surprises this season?
Offense – Eli becoming a top 5 QB, Cruz’s incredible ability for YAC’s, Ballard emergence as better receiver than Boss, Hynoski’s blocking and catching, Boothe becoming our best OLineman, Ware being a serviceable RB
Defense – JPP becoming best DE in NFL, JWill starting to become a genuine LB, Ross hanging in there after TT absence, Linval gradually improving as a DT
DavebrownNOT
did you see Boss get destroyed late in the Oakland
game? I was thining Jeez, it never ends for this guy
nygmen123: Again, without Vick or Maclin, or Cromartie. Injuries don't seem to bother them. They just bring in guys to make plays
nygmen123: Stopped the Pats on the first series. Planted Brady twice. Guess what gang? This team isn't quitting. Or making excuses.
Simms-McC: Yeah -- I wish the Giants were more like the Eagles
nygmen123: In intensity and fight? Right now, so do I.
EAGLES LOSE, 38-20.
by Simms-McConkey on Jan 3, 2012 5:35 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah he must talk seven languages by now..No one knows what they are..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
I for one have always had sort of a 'Ike and Tina' type of thing with Eli...
Love him to death when he’s on,… Used to hate his guts when he was off. This season though, most ppl up here said that I crossed over to the Dark Side by praising Eli but he has shown that he IS an elite QB in this league. I think the emergence of Victor Cruz has had a huge impact on Eli’s game because when you have a playmaker WR who can consistently get open, it gives you tons of confidence to just let ‘er rip. I think the problem last year was that Eli felt like he didn’t have any playmakers that he trusted to throw the ball to and that affected his play. The one thing that I hope TC has learned is to have a little more faith in his younger players and to try and give them some game experience without a starter having to get injured. I know that everyone is still happy over us making the playoffs, but I still hope TC leaves and we get a fresh start from a coaching standpoint. I for one can’t take the inconsistency every single year. I think he’s a pretty good coach, but the game is evolving and in order for the Giants to really get better, I think a graceful bow out by TC after this season would be best for this team.
whoa
Eli used to get drunk and beat the crap out of you?
nygmen123: Again, without Vick or Maclin, or Cromartie. Injuries don't seem to bother them. They just bring in guys to make plays
nygmen123: Stopped the Pats on the first series. Planted Brady twice. Guess what gang? This team isn't quitting. Or making excuses.
Simms-McC: Yeah -- I wish the Giants were more like the Eagles
nygmen123: In intensity and fight? Right now, so do I.
EAGLES LOSE, 38-20.
by Simms-McConkey on Jan 3, 2012 5:35 PM EST up reply actions
Eli had a bad year last year because he sucked..He took care of that..this year..Let's face it..
He had a bad year because he played…well, Bad..Cruz Missile didn’t make his year a better one.. He did it himself..along with a pretty damn good cast of advisors..His Father and Brother..I bet they analyzed every game from last year..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
+1
This entire year Eli has played at a level that surpasses even the best individual efforts in the past (even his SB year) years…for the first time he can be called elite, and no one can question that. That has been a refreshing change from past years.
Where did you hear Bradford to the Redskins as a rumor, Ed?
I’ve heard a lot about Peyton going to DC or maybe even Matt Flynn, but nothing about Bradford. If I was them I would much rather trade up for an RGIII or even sit and take Landry Jones then trade a lot for Bradford.
Is anyone else having probs loading the Game Ball page? All of a sudden it is not loading and giving me warnings.
Fewell
no matter what happens in the playoffs,Fewell must go.
fewell
Spagnola is a defensive genius. Need to get him back
by Robert Essigman on Jan 3, 2012 10:49 PM EST up reply actions
Agree Williams has the potential but Cruz effectively a rookie after being on IR all last year ...
for a “hammy” (smart dude that JR) .
Ballard filling the Boss hole so nicely was a pleasant surprise, too.
The OL regressing was a surprise. That’s why running game so dismal. Where are they supposed to run?
Major strides by Eli in both moving around in the pocket like Brady and Big Ben while still focused on his downfield receivers so much better. He even has figured out how to make good throws when off balance or off back foot that used to feed his INT stats. Never thought I’d see that!
Jerry Reese.
One of the best if not the best GM’s out there. As someone else said he is a master at getting talent in the later rounds.
Least surprising thing about regular season?
Gilbride still can’t figure out what the f*ck to do with Beckum … but then neither can I.
The most surprising thing about the Giants this season has been...
Perry Fewell’s refusal to adjust his game plan after getting beat on all the way to week 13.
nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!
Just ordered FatHeads for all available Giants. Now I have something to aim at when punching holes in my wall.
gilbride still a maroon.
I’ve sworn at the tube way more over playcalling than poor coverage and futile tacking. Offense this good cause of Manning making something out of nothing. Despite ‘Killdrives’ moronic playcalling!
by jerseybillfromva on Jan 3, 2012 9:33 PM EST reply actions

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