New York Giants News and Notes: Are We There Yet? Edition
Good morning fellow Giants fans. It's hump day and a happier hump day than usual, as the Giants are headed to the Super Bowl in eleven days. That means there may be a slight lull in overall media coverage, before things kick into crazy next week. But hey, this is Big Blue View, so you'll find more Giants' coverage here than most places, this week or next. So yeah, it's hump day, but there are no games other than the Pro Bowl on Sunday. That means, like me, you guys can swallow your hearts--the ones that were in your throats on Sunday evening, and the ones that almost stopped about fifty times in a four-hour span. We can look forward to the next game while relaxing this weekend. Of course, we're all going to be jittery by Sunday, wondering what to do with ourselves. We can watch the Pro Bowl, with a smirk on our collective Big Blue face, knowing none of our players are in it because they have a more important game the following Sunday. Yeah, that's it. Oh hey, let's see what else is being said this fine Wednesday....
First, here are some players' quotes from Tuesday's press conferences:
Eli Manning talked about how he addressed the team on Tuesday since he's been to the big dance once before.
"I just told them a little bit about how to prepare for this - handle all of your business with tickets, getting that stuff done, just a few things on the mindset of this week."
He also commented on Ann Mara getting in Terry Bradshaw's face after the game Sunday:
"You have to laugh. Mrs. Mara, you see her and you think ‘Sweet Mrs. Mara', but she is obviously very passionate about Giants football and passionate about this team and involved and knows players. I like her attitude. I like the way she spoke her mind about something she cares dearly about."
Justin Tuck had this to say about going up against Tom Brady:
"Every time you play against Tom, you have to go to the drawing board because he is definitely going to look at what we had success against him with the first time and come out with something to beat that. You have to do something different. He is that type of quarterback that by the second quarter, he probably has a sense of what a team wants to do to him and his offense."
And Antrel Rolle said this about having Eli Manning as his quarterback:
"I can't speak for most people, but for myself, it means a lot. It lets me know what kind of guy we have leading this team. Eli is the leader of this team, without a doubt, and we definitely, I wouldn't be standing up here right now if it wasn't for him. He is an elite quarterback. I don't think that needs any further discussion. I think he's definitely proven himself. I think he's proven himself before this year, to be honest with you."
Here are the complete transcripts:
For Belichick, H.C. of the N.E.P., Fond Memories of New York (Giants, Not Jets) - NYTimes.com
In his final two years with the Giants, he also coached the secondary and was in almost daily contact with Coughlin, the newly arrived coach of the receivers. Belichick said the two remained good friends, their days on the same staff cementing the relationship. "Of all the coaches I’ve worked with, it was as good as any," Belichick said of his relationship with Coughlin. "I had an excellent relationship with him for us being on opposite sides of the ball, but being able to help each other and our players helping each other and having a good, healthy, competitive situation."
Eli Manning justifies Giants’ trust - BostonHerald.com
The blades of grass were wedged in Eli Manning’s facemask, his helmet sitting askew on his head. His shoulder pads stuck out of his mud-stained jersey, forcing him to stuff them back in. It was the aftermath of yet another vicious pummeling the quarterback took Sunday on the road to the NFC championship and the Giants’ second trip to the Super Bowl in five seasons. But Manning bounced right back up again and again in that fourth quarter, no matter how hard the San Francisco 49ers hit him. And he kept making plays, leading his team to a 20-17 overtime victory and a berth in Super Bowl XLVI. The display was just the latest example of how Manning, 31, has separated himself in his eighth season, becoming the elite quarterback he declared himself to be in training camp.
NY Giants and Eli Manning must battle odds, Tom Brady and New England Patriots in Super Bowl XLVI - NY Daily News
The Patriots are a tremendous organization, even with Spygate on their rap sheet. They have a tremendous owner in Mr. Robert Kraft, have been to four Super Bowls in this century and won three of them. Underestimating them in a big game, even after what the Giants did to them four years ago in Glendale, Ariz., is nuts. Put all that down. But then ask yourself a question, off what you have seen from the Giants lately: How are the Giants underdogs in this game?
Eli Manning now is The Greatest QB in Giants history - NYPOST.com
It has forever been my contention that if Jim Kelly is in the Hall of Fame, then Phil Simms belongs in Canton as well. Because of his toughness, because of his leadership, because of his longevity, because he stunned the Broncos in Super Bowl XXI with the greatest passing performance in the history of The Show, up until today I have recognized him as The Greatest Quarterback in Giants History. Better than Charlie Conerly. Better than Y.A. Tittle. Better than Fran Tarkenton. That distinction now belongs to Eli Manning.
Interesting, but I think most of us will agree with that.
Peyton Manning, Fan, Analyst and His Brother’s Defender - NYTimes.com
But Peyton is like many other fans in one way: He is reluctant to mess with karma. And so after watching the Giants defeat the Atlanta Falcons on a Sunday afternoon while lifting weights, he returned to the same spot a week later to view the Giants’ upset of the Green Bay Packers. That created a quandary for the N.F.C. championship game. "I was a little nervous," Peyton Manning said in a telephone interview Monday night about attending the game in San Francisco. "They played so well against Atlanta, I said, ‘I’ve got to go to the weight facility during the Green Bay game.’ It was a Sunday afternoon. I was the only one in the building. So I was nervous about going to the game. "I didn’t want him to say, ‘You’ve got to go to the weight room.’ It would have been 9 p.m. in Indianapolis. So I came without telling him. I didn’t want to bother him. I was relieved when they won because I didn’t want him to blame me."
New York Jets will find Peyton Manning hard to resist - ESPN New York
It was only five weeks ago that Rex Ryan was boasting how the Jets were a better team than the Giants, how they owned the town. Maybe they owned it for a minute in each of the previous two Januaries, but now they just have a serious case of the Big Blues. And we all know how owner Woody Johnson copes with that. He'll try to make a splashy move in the coming weeks to get people talking about his team again -- it's in his DNA -- and there's only one thing out there that can accomplish that. Peyton Manning.
New York Giants won't mind being 3-point underdogs | Democrat and Chronicle | democratandchronicle.com
If the Giants win Super Bowl XLVI, Eli Manning almost certainly will make the Pro Football Hall of Fame. Peyton Manning will finish with gaudier career passing numbers than his little brother, but Peyton has won only one Super Bowl. Peyton is a cinch future Pro Football Hall of Famer. If Eli wins his second Super Bowl, it would be ridiculous for him not to join his brother with a bust in Canton. ... Added nice touch: Eli will be going for his second Super Bowl ring in brother Peyton's home stadium
Does it just blow your mind to hear the words "Eli" and "Canton" in the same sentence? Yet, the way he's played lately, it's hard to argue with. A win on February 5 would sure help the cause, however.
Jerry Jones: Eli Manning made the difference for Giants - Dallas Cowboys Blog - ESPN Dallas
Jones believes the difference between his Cowboys and the New York Giants, who face the New England Patriots in Super Bowl XLVI is Eli Manning taking advantage of his supporting cast. Jones loves his quarterback Tony Romo and still believes he can deliver a championship. Yet in the two regular-season losses the Cowboys suffered to the Giants, and the stretch of games the Giants won to salvage their season, Manning was the difference.
Who didn't love reading this Tuesday? And if you didn't, you did just now.
Giants-49ers’ game scores big ratings for Fox; ‘Idol’ has lowest-ever season premiere numbers - The Washington Post
The Giants’ victory over the San Francisco 49ers attracted an average of 57.6 million viewers, the second most-watched NFC title game since 1982 and third most ever, the Nielsen Co. said. During the game’s peak from 10 to 10:30 p.m. ET, 69 million people were watching. Only 2010’s Minnesota-New Orleans game and the 1982 Dallas-San Francisco game had larger NFC championship audiences.
2012 NFL playoffs -- Giants VP Chris Mara says his daughter's Oscar nomination was bigger than getting to the Super Bowl - ESPN New York
Yeah, he knew the feeling. Mara badly wanted to be the general manager of the Giants five years ago, only to be told by his brother John that the Oscar would be going to Jerry Reese. So Chris delayed his commute to work to watch the nominations. He figured it was better to be disappointed in his home, alone, than to endure another round of you'll-get-'em-next-times at the office. And when Rooney Mara's name was indeed called in the best actress category, her father did what any father of a 26-year-old hopeful would do when nominated for an Oscar. "I let out a pretty big scream," he said. "And then I cried."
Have a great hump day, everyone. The countdown is on....eleven days to go....tick, tock, tick tock....
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The image of Eli with his pads out, grass sticking in his lopsided helmet
Will stay with me forever
Eli Manning is the opposite of Lebron James. If you ask Lebron for change for a dollar, he only gives you 75c because he doesnt have a fourth quarter. When Eli asks for change, he only takes one quarter because thats all he's gonna need.
"I gotta say guys, I'm on Cloud 10: it's like Cloud 9, only more ELIte"- Raptor22
its on my phone, my computer, my facebook, my instagram, my twitter, etc. etc. etc.
by The Blood of Eli on Jan 25, 2012 8:16 AM EST up reply actions
Thanks Eli.
Even with all that beating you came out victorious
Rec'd for the Greatest Giants QBOf all time.
Why is Tom Quinn still here? I loves me some Coach Clawfin.
+1 Rec'ed
I got a GIF for that!
Giants by 17 over GB, take it to the bank!
Giants by 10 over SF, take it to the bank! Well, OK, by 3, but we are Super Bowl bound!!!!!!!
by Fester McDougal on Jan 25, 2012 10:08 AM EST up reply actions
Rec'd..."Toughness to the nth degree"....
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
not only is he tough
he’s much stronger than he appears. When he gets hit he’s like gumby. He absorbs contact like no one I’ve seen before. A defender is not going to bring him down easily as we witnessed in SB 42.
Jacobs to Eli: You're a beast, man. I can't say that enough!
etc.com or etc.org?
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both
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Jan 25, 2012 9:50 AM EST up reply actions
still have to rub my eyes when I see all of these mainstream sports sites having a borderline obnoxious amount
of stories on OUR team. Crazy.
By Monday, you’re going to be going crazy, Mike.
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 25, 2012 7:46 AM EST reply actions
I know dude
there is already so much to sift through. But yeah, I think they are paying way more attention to us this time
i agree
I’m not even reading half the articles out there. Its still pretty cool though.
by wrxsti28 on Jan 25, 2012 8:59 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I hate it
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Two weeks is such a long time
to fill column inches. I can’t believe the positive stories about Eli in the Boston Media. All can be summarized as “that goofy kid with the cowlick sure can ball!”
Thats why Jerry Jones and Woody Johnson are awful owners
Instead of believing in thier guys and doing what it takes to support them and get them to grow one in pinning for a division rival and the other is thinking about upsetting team chemestry to sign a big name so his team can be in the NYC spotlight.
Newsflash Jerry and Woddy. Romo is good and you can win get a GM and build a better team around him. Woody be patient and bring in a quality HC not a good defensive coordiantor who’s more concerned with saying outrages things and getting headlines then developing a young QB.
So glad I’m a Giants fan.
Defiant.
I think that’s just his base personality, and I’ve seen nothing in his demeanor after 2 years in the Big House that he’s changed at all. Us being in the Superblow won’t change anything. Sad.
+1
His comments about how TC told him he was lucky he did’nt kill anyone that night yet Plax took it as a slight becasue he did not think TC cared about Plax enough or how Plax was pissed that Eli did not campaign to bring him back this year. I mean the guy played big for us and was a popular teamate despite his behavior but man what a selfish guy that just does not get it and its really really sad.
I'm glad he's gone...
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
I seriously think he was one of Sanchez's anonymous crtitics.
If you want to argue that Manning is a) not a great quarterback or b) not the best quarterback in franchise history your credibility is automatically shot.
by LoNJDTechnology on Jan 25, 2012 9:29 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
I agree
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Jan 25, 2012 10:01 AM EST up reply actions
I wouldn't doubt that at all...
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Plax or Santonio
Jacobs to Eli: You're a beast, man. I can't say that enough!
both I think
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Jan 25, 2012 11:16 AM EST up reply actions
or Steve Smith
Now everyone will say Eli is in Bradys class. F*ck me
by PatNation85 on Nov 6, 2011 4:31 PM PST
by AJ_in_VA on Jan 25, 2012 8:30 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
His knee hurts
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If I remember correctly, I think I read a story where Plax
implied he was pissed off that Eli didn’t come see him in prison.
Football Good Cop/Bad Cop?
That would be funny.
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He sure did
He also didnt shake Eli’s hand when we played and Plax was the only Jets captain at center field.
He shook all three of the other players hands who were out there though.
Clown.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
he wasnt just implying
He was b*tching about it like a female
Fire Fewell
by andiamo708 on Jan 25, 2012 9:11 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
You think Eli and Peyton had a big laugh over that one
I can see the 3 brothers in the family room yakking it up over that one.
Eli is our King!
I've been laughing hysterically reading this Plax bullshit...hahaha
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Lmao!! I like Plax even though he that idiotic gun in the nightclub mistake l...
but he has got to be feeling really sore right now. Naturally he went for the money but a second trip to the SB would have helped his public image more.
If you want to argue that Manning is a) not a great quarterback or b) not the best quarterback in franchise history your credibility is automatically shot.
by LoNJDTechnology on Jan 25, 2012 9:23 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
Nope not for a second
Bsides, if he was here, we’d have missed the playoffs again
All hail the Emperor Cruz
Eli is our King!
don't care
Jacobs to Eli: You're a beast, man. I can't say that enough!
i got to watch the giants sb 42 video last night
So many parallels to this season. I cant wait for next Sunday!
by jhMLB on Jan 25, 2012 7:47 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Eli Manning
Clearly, not leadership material
If only he had plastic surgery, then he’d be elite.
PS – REPLAY TONIGHT – 8 PM – NFLN
Well, according to Skip Bayless...
Eli isn’t elite because he doesn’t LOOK like an Elite QB.
But as honey badgers say: “Eli don’t care”
Skip reminds me
Of one of those brittle guard/monster – from the movie the Mummy – the ones guarding the temple.( Insert pic)
Old, dry, crusty, and brittle! All he is is dust in the wind.
Bayless gets moist for Tbone (Tebow)
Please tell me what an elite QB looks like
You mean Bradshaw (whom I despise) and YA Tittle looked like QBs? How about Sonny Jurgensen. What a funny delivery he had.
And what a dopey comment. One thing counts, that is results. And Eli has them to show.
Boom!
All the Giants should play like Mark Bavaro.
TQ, DD and KMac Must Go!
TC, PF, KG, will stay but should go for the long term good.
It is equally worthless when people are always optimistic or always pessimistic. Either way I take their opinion with a pound of salt because I know they only have one setting. I post my own thoughts, not what either side wants to read.
by UnknownJintsFan on Jan 25, 2012 10:12 AM EST up reply actions
Sonny had the best beer gut I ever saw....
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
I loved when
Suggs told Skip Clueless don’t be a douche bag.
Jacobs to Eli: You're a beast, man. I can't say that enough!
Eli Manning sucks.
When are they gonna put david carr in?
by The Blood of Eli on Jan 25, 2012 8:19 AM EST reply actions
David Carr
Will play Eli Manning in the movie they make about the Giants
by Oppenheimer919 on Jan 25, 2012 8:43 AM EST up reply actions
They are arm wrestling for the starting spot in the Super Bowl...I think on Sunday morning.
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Gmen love being the underdog
You tell them they are underdogs and don’t messure up to a team, that’s when they play their best and try to prove you wrong.
Whatever happened to Jared Lorenzen
If he was backing up Eli, at least he could go in now and then and give Mckenzie a blow
He is not good at football.
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Deihl can take over that particular duty
I got a GIF for that!
Giants by 17 over GB, take it to the bank!
Giants by 10 over SF, take it to the bank! Well, OK, by 3, but we are Super Bowl bound!!!!!!!
by Fester McDougal on Jan 25, 2012 10:09 AM EST up reply actions
He was playing in some indoor league
and doing his impression of private Pyle from full metal jacket

by Oppenheimer919 on Jan 25, 2012 8:45 AM EST up reply actions
Fat Ass with the Rocket Pass
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Jan 25, 2012 10:07 AM EST up reply actions
He looks like Brian Dennehy..Rambo I....
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
The hefty Lefty
Was playing for some minor league team last I heard
Why is Tom Quinn still here? I loves me some Coach Clawfin.
Did anyone see the report on NFL.com about Giants players targetting the SF returner's head?
Apparently they were trying to knock him out of the game as he has a history of concussions. Not sure what to make of it, if it played out how the article says, Im certainly not proud of it.
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d82648e2c/article/giants-boley-you-dont-think-about-someones-past-injuries?module=HP11_headline_stack
Eli Manning is the opposite of Lebron James. If you ask Lebron for change for a dollar, he only gives you 75c because he doesnt have a fourth quarter. When Eli asks for change, he only takes one quarter because thats all he's gonna need.
"I gotta say guys, I'm on Cloud 10: it's like Cloud 9, only more ELIte"- Raptor22
its a non issue
Regardless of what happens, No playoffs, playoffs, no superblow, superblow.... The 2011/2012 is one of my favorite Giants Teams of all time.
disturbing how?
Jacobs to Eli: You're a beast, man. I can't say that enough!
Both plays that resulted in turnovers was not as a result from anyone going at his head
The first one he wasn’t touched, it’s was just a heads up play after he tried to pretend the ball didn’t hit him and the next one he got hit on the hand and the ball fell out. Unless the Special teams got into his head and got him nervous. Not surheld the other plays
Yeah I didnt notice it happening
But unless the article is lying (which, honestly, wouldnt be that big of a surprise), its sounds like that was the aim
Eli Manning is the opposite of Lebron James. If you ask Lebron for change for a dollar, he only gives you 75c because he doesnt have a fourth quarter. When Eli asks for change, he only takes one quarter because thats all he's gonna need.
"I gotta say guys, I'm on Cloud 10: it's like Cloud 9, only more ELIte"- Raptor22
by ChuckyofNorris on Jan 25, 2012 8:46 AM EST up reply actions
For the Giant players to even allude to it
is very unfortunate. I bet the Giants PR guy was ripping his hair out when he read that in the news.
Considering how the '9ers own players hit each other
That was just how the game was being played: Take the other guy’s head off.
And they were just going for a interception.
If you want to argue that Manning is a) not a great quarterback or b) not the best quarterback in franchise history your credibility is automatically shot.
by LoNJDTechnology on Jan 25, 2012 9:50 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
It's a media shit storm
They need a story, the special teams play decided the game. And concussions are a hot topic.
Does anyone think the SF DL wasn’t trying to knock Eli out?
If you do, you are incredibly naive.
You cross the white line you’re at risk.
Eli is our King!
What were the Giants supposed to do? Not hit him
Thomas never said they were head hunting. He said they were gonna hit him hard and often. This is a non story.
Why is Tom Quinn still here? I loves me some Coach Clawfin.
Yeah...you jog onto a football field..guess what???...Your going to get hit...
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
They were not going for the head. They said that he has had concussions so they thought once he gets hit he may make some errors that is all.
This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.
I'm starting to think this is one of the Super Bowl mind games that were are witnessing.
Sure…let the Pats think the Giants are headhunting on ST – even if they’re not.
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I certainly hope so
Both because itll help us and because it means we dont have a bunch of terrible people playing for us
Eli Manning is the opposite of Lebron James. If you ask Lebron for change for a dollar, he only gives you 75c because he doesnt have a fourth quarter. When Eli asks for change, he only takes one quarter because thats all he's gonna need.
"I gotta say guys, I'm on Cloud 10: it's like Cloud 9, only more ELIte"- Raptor22
by ChuckyofNorris on Jan 25, 2012 8:48 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah, you don't like to see it put quite that way ...
but it’s not really that different from the D-Line wanting to put some hits on the QB early in a game. If a guy has a history of not taking hits well, they’re gonna be a target.
Speaking of QB hits...
Brady has a history of not taking hits well in the Super Bowl while playing the Giants.
Fact Check? Check ONE…Check TWO…
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Yes Brady don't like taking hits but the refs are in love with him
So based on the Giants pass experience with refs, we have to be careful and not get one of those bogus roughing the passer penalty they called when Osi brushed against Rodgers

Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Jan 25, 2012 10:09 AM EST up reply actions
But the difference between going for a concussion and breaking some ribs is profound
DL might be trying to hurt the QB, but most wouldnt be gunning for his head (even if its only because they’d be called for sure)
Eli Manning is the opposite of Lebron James. If you ask Lebron for change for a dollar, he only gives you 75c because he doesnt have a fourth quarter. When Eli asks for change, he only takes one quarter because thats all he's gonna need.
"I gotta say guys, I'm on Cloud 10: it's like Cloud 9, only more ELIte"- Raptor22
by ChuckyofNorris on Jan 25, 2012 8:49 AM EST up reply actions
It is...but the biggest problem is that this message was delivered to reporters.
Plus, If they were trying to concuss him I don’t think punching the ball out of his hands would be the way to do it.
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I dont think they were saying they were going for helmet-to-helmet hits
I think they were saying they were targetting him while on the ground with swinging arms and the like during the pile-on
Eli Manning is the opposite of Lebron James. If you ask Lebron for change for a dollar, he only gives you 75c because he doesnt have a fourth quarter. When Eli asks for change, he only takes one quarter because thats all he's gonna need.
"I gotta say guys, I'm on Cloud 10: it's like Cloud 9, only more ELIte"- Raptor22
by ChuckyofNorris on Jan 25, 2012 8:58 AM EST up reply actions
no they were sayin
they wanted to put some big hits on him. Which is what you do when a guy has a history of concussions… pretty soon, good things will happen. which is what happened.
Regardless of what happens, No playoffs, playoffs, no superblow, superblow.... The 2011/2012 is one of my favorite Giants Teams of all time.
which is why it was stupid to say in the first place
when the hell aren’t you looking to hit the guy with the ball (legally) hard?!
It was JWill first time in the limelight
my best guess at what they discussed in the film room is this…
Dude has had concussions.. lets him and make him forget he has the ball.
During the game Sash puts a tremendous hit on Williams… Later in the Game, Williams doesnt know what to do after ball hits him. Now, Williams is worried about getting hit, and now trying to over compensate for the fumble. He forgets he has the ball. JWill knocks it out.
I think JWill was so happy that it worked out the way he planned, that and he is going to the superbowl because of it. He just blurts out the key points covered in the Film Room.
Regardless of what happens, No playoffs, playoffs, no superblow, superblow.... The 2011/2012 is one of my favorite Giants Teams of all time.
young guy slips up...i get it
but after those great stories about him being a father and persevering on the filed, it’s dumb. Make him collect the equipment after practice this week, keep him humble.
he didnt say anything dumb
he just said something, that people can tear apart..
unlike manning and TC who are well versed at not saying something.
What JWill should have said " we say some areas that we could take advantage on ST’s. We covered it in practice and it worked."
Regardless of what happens, No playoffs, playoffs, no superblow, superblow.... The 2011/2012 is one of my favorite Giants Teams of all time.
I think we're in agreement here
he didn’t do anything dumb. but he said something dumb. and if he would have said what you suggested
" we see some areas that we could take advantage on ST’s. We covered it in practice and it worked."
well, that would have been smart.
I bet players say that stuff all the time
Its such a de facto part of sports, I’m absolutely stunned at the amount of attention this is getting here.
Take your cue from the big media. If it was a story, Graziano would have been on ESPN talking about how Thomas and Williams are psychopathic.
It’s football, I guarantee you, every guy on the SF team wanted to make a big hit. I’ve seen Beatty run 10 yds down field and clock a guy on the opposite side of the action. Diehl and Seubert were notorious for it too. Eli went out and tried to pancake a guy on ABs run.
No matter how they change the rules, hitting is part of football.
Eli is our King!
speaking of big hits
how are we not talking about the big block in the back on sash after he play. that was a helmet to helmet hit and did cause a concussion?
Regardless of what happens, No playoffs, playoffs, no superblow, superblow.... The 2011/2012 is one of my favorite Giants Teams of all time.
It's part of the game
I doubt they were targetting anyone, least of all a rook special teamer
When Canty popped Vick and he got hurt, was it targeting? NO WAY
I said this pre game, the Giants are and have been a physical team. It’s part of the George Young legacy. We’ve believed in bigger faster, and sometimes less skilled guys. We hit people and we hit em some more. We test them. The Niners are now one of those teams. I’m glad Sash was the worst of it.
Eli is our King!
It is disturbing
I’m glad we didn’t see anything that resembled dirty play.
by Oppenheimer919 on Jan 25, 2012 8:57 AM EST up reply actions
it's football, if you think it doesn't happen you are mistaken
even Kiwi said earlier in the year, if he knows someone’s got something hurting he’s going after it.
maybe it’s not your cup of tea but unfortunatley it’s the game. and it’s not really even frowned upon.
Fire Fewell
never should be
this isnt a game of giving the other team handicaps.. like in golf.
This is find the weakness, exploit it. Who ever finds the simplest way to exploit the others weakness wins.
Football is a full contact, fun arse sport
Regardless of what happens, No playoffs, playoffs, no superblow, superblow.... The 2011/2012 is one of my favorite Giants Teams of all time.
The concussion thing is definitely frowned upon
And its a lot different IMO. Nobody is going to get into hot water for targeting Romo’s hand or Vick’s chest or whatever because doing those things are within the rules of the game. That isn’t what I’d call “dirty play”. What I’m saying is if he had said what he did, and then gone out and hit him in the face on a fair catch call or something like that… I’d be disappointed. Since that didn’t happen I’m not sure what the big deal is.
The unfortunate part of him talking about it in the media is that if the guy gets a concussion from a legal hit… now everybody is going to be saying “Oh you cheap bastards” when the real issue is that maybe a guy with a concussion history shouldn’t be returning punts.
by Oppenheimer919 on Jan 25, 2012 11:44 AM EST up reply actions
this was covered in another thread
a complete NON ISSUE. Just people that dont understand football claiming its to rough.
Regardless of what happens, No playoffs, playoffs, no superblow, superblow.... The 2011/2012 is one of my favorite Giants Teams of all time.
Thats not what anyone's been saying
What theyve been saying, is its not right to attempt to concuss a player. Hit him hard yes, but not actually injure. If youre going into a game trying to inflict a serious injury on someone, you end up being an idiot like Suh
Eli Manning is the opposite of Lebron James. If you ask Lebron for change for a dollar, he only gives you 75c because he doesnt have a fourth quarter. When Eli asks for change, he only takes one quarter because thats all he's gonna need.
"I gotta say guys, I'm on Cloud 10: it's like Cloud 9, only more ELIte"- Raptor22
by ChuckyofNorris on Jan 25, 2012 9:46 AM EST up reply actions
it wasnt
you are misunderstanding the quote. Suh is a dirty player. our guys are not.
It is common knowledge in football, if someone has an history of injuries. You press that. No one was talking about hitting them after the whistle. No one was talking about going for the head. That is the media not JWill.
they stressed iin practice, hit the return man. Solid, hard, clean hits… because the return man may not be able to take it and good things will happen. That is exactly what they did. Sash just blasted him one time around and guess what…
Good things happened just like they planned.
Regardless of what happens, No playoffs, playoffs, no superblow, superblow.... The 2011/2012 is one of my favorite Giants Teams of all time.
Actually, Im seeing your point
And it makes a whole lot more sense than our players going out and saying “we tried to hit him in the head cuz he’s had concussions”.
Eli Manning is the opposite of Lebron James. If you ask Lebron for change for a dollar, he only gives you 75c because he doesnt have a fourth quarter. When Eli asks for change, he only takes one quarter because thats all he's gonna need.
"I gotta say guys, I'm on Cloud 10: it's like Cloud 9, only more ELIte"- Raptor22
by ChuckyofNorris on Jan 25, 2012 9:53 AM EST up reply actions
I just dont understand why some of the media outlets
are trying to make a big deal outta this…
This is stuff you are trained to do in football, since pop warner.
Starts with, that kid over their doesnt like to get hit.. hit him, and see if he lets go of the ball.
Regardless of what happens, No playoffs, playoffs, no superblow, superblow.... The 2011/2012 is one of my favorite Giants Teams of all time.
I don't remember anyone saying targeting his head.
They knew he had a history of concussions, they wanted to hit him… hard and often but they said nothing about going for his head.
And from what I remember of the game, no one was hitting his head.
This is how things get taken out of context and turned around. We have gone from a story about… God forbid… football players hitting each other, to and perceived story about dirty players, targeting someone’s head, trying to give him a concussion or worse and take him out of the game.
There is nothing wrong with what they did or really in my mind what they said in public. The only problem is feminization of America acting all concerned.
If we knew Brady’s ribs were cracked before the game next Sunday, would you NOT expect our guys to say, we know he is hurting we have to hit him hard and often?
I’d be PISSED if they didn’t.
That was a bunch of bullshit..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Just a thought about "taking a player out"...
… but didn’t the Giants make it a point of pride last year for knocking out five opposing quarterbacks (including TWO Bears)?
And while the number of sacks the Giants have produced lately – 18 during their four-game winning streak, including three on Monday night – has surely gotten the attention of the rest of the NFL, the body count only enhances their reputation.
And here's some comments from Donte Whitner after the Saints game
You know, the game where they gave Pierre Thomas a concussion. Oh, and they also gave Tyler Sash a concussion in the game against the Giants.
Whitner’s hit on Thomas set the physical tone in Saturday’s game, but Thomas wasn’t the only back the 49ers had KO’d. The Giants may not be the more physical team on the field this game.
"We don’t take pride in actually injuring guys or knocking them out of the game," Whitner said. "We take pride in being physical, and whenever you play physical, guys are going to get injured. That’s how the game goes, and we’re not going to stop doing that."
He was asked if they will try to make the Giants hear footsteps.
"I don’t know if you hear footsteps, but a lot of guys like to peek at the defender before they catch the football and sometimes, that’s what happens," he said. "You watch film against guys being real physical and sometimes it gets into a guy’s mind. Sometimes they pay more attention to the defender than they do the football. So, hopefully. That’s why we do it because we want to be in their heads.
"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning
Crunked and Swagged out since 2011
Stupid comments by JWill and Thomas
JWill about SF’s Williams:
“
The thing is, we knew he had four concussions, so that was our biggest thing, was to take him outta the game,” Jacquian Williams told reporters at Candlestick Park.
Thomas made a similar comment.
That is low class and just a dumb thing to say.
All the Giants should play like Mark Bavaro.
TQ, DD and KMac Must Go!
TC, PF, KG, will stay but should go for the long term good.
It is equally worthless when people are always optimistic or always pessimistic. Either way I take their opinion with a pound of salt because I know they only have one setting. I post my own thoughts, not what either side wants to read.
by UnknownJintsFan on Jan 25, 2012 8:50 AM EST reply actions
Discusion about this very thing going on right above ^
Eli Manning is the opposite of Lebron James. If you ask Lebron for change for a dollar, he only gives you 75c because he doesnt have a fourth quarter. When Eli asks for change, he only takes one quarter because thats all he's gonna need.
"I gotta say guys, I'm on Cloud 10: it's like Cloud 9, only more ELIte"- Raptor22
by ChuckyofNorris on Jan 25, 2012 8:53 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah thanks, I'm not with it today
Under the weather.
But anyway, we all know NFLers try to hit hard. But trying to injure someone’s head is a little more than I think is right. And to say it publicly, dumb, dumb, dumb.
The Giants are a classy outfit and, assuming the quotes are accuracte, this is a disgrace. TC should privately spank both of them. Hard.
The next time we meet them, which could well be next year, there will be lots of head hunting going on. We are vulnerable too.
All the Giants should play like Mark Bavaro.
TQ, DD and KMac Must Go!
TC, PF, KG, will stay but should go for the long term good.
It is equally worthless when people are always optimistic or always pessimistic. Either way I take their opinion with a pound of salt because I know they only have one setting. I post my own thoughts, not what either side wants to read.
by UnknownJintsFan on Jan 25, 2012 9:01 AM EST up reply actions
The fact that the Giants are a classy organisation is all that gives me pause
I cant see any of the coaching staff, or even any of the team leaders advocating this, so Im not sure what to make of it
Eli Manning is the opposite of Lebron James. If you ask Lebron for change for a dollar, he only gives you 75c because he doesnt have a fourth quarter. When Eli asks for change, he only takes one quarter because thats all he's gonna need.
"I gotta say guys, I'm on Cloud 10: it's like Cloud 9, only more ELIte"- Raptor22
by ChuckyofNorris on Jan 25, 2012 9:03 AM EST up reply actions
You're reinterpreting jock speak to normal conversation
Those guys were saying, we knew this guy was a weak link, concussions, inexperienced, and a history of fumbling (2 in limited touches and in college too).
So we wanted to make sure we went after a weak link.
Which I think is coached from PeeWee, and is part of sports in general. It sounds worse than it is cause we are all focused on the concussions. But how many people thought it was wrong to hit a QB in the head when you were allowed to. Terry Bradshaw doesn’t even have memories of games he played in, and people lauded the guys trying to knock him senseless.
Eli is our King!
im pretty sure
They were reported out of context. They probably should yave worded it better. NFL already reported no head hunting in game tapes.
by jhMLB on Jan 25, 2012 8:55 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Yea none of the hits on the returner
looked dirty, hell Williams went for the ball. . . so who knows what was said and what actually happened.
happens all the time, said all the tim
just not quoted in the media all the time. Don’t like it, too bad.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
It is not low class
Regardless of what happens, No playoffs, playoffs, no superblow, superblow.... The 2011/2012 is one of my favorite Giants Teams of all time.
Wasn't low class when Lott did it.
Wasn’t low class when Dawkins did it. These guys were and are praised fot putting guys out the game.
If you want to argue that Manning is a) not a great quarterback or b) not the best quarterback in franchise history your credibility is automatically shot.
by LoNJDTechnology on Jan 25, 2012 9:47 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
exactly
no dirty shots. there is no need for them in this game. If you do your job correctly, you can cleanly take players out of the game.
Regardless of what happens, No playoffs, playoffs, no superblow, superblow.... The 2011/2012 is one of my favorite Giants Teams of all time.
When Lions want to eat...Which member of the herd do they go after???
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
I was going to make a clever little quip about Marshall players at Detroit
But there are none…
Eli Manning is the opposite of Lebron James. If you ask Lebron for change for a dollar, he only gives you 75c because he doesnt have a fourth quarter. When Eli asks for change, he only takes one quarter because thats all he's gonna need.
"I gotta say guys, I'm on Cloud 10: it's like Cloud 9, only more ELIte"- Raptor22
by ChuckyofNorris on Jan 25, 2012 7:47 PM EST up reply actions
Eli
I can’t argue too much with the statement of Eli as the best QB to date. Simms was more of a get in your face guy, not Eli’s style. He leads by example and finishing. He will need to win another SB for me to totally get behind it. We were more about D and running game in Simms era, much more wide open with Eli as he has better passing skills.
So, we are abandoning Blockquotes and italics completely?
This place is going to hell in a hand-basket
nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!
Just ordered FatHeads for all available Giants. Now I have something to aim at when punching holes in my wall.
I see some italics now.
nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!
Just ordered FatHeads for all available Giants. Now I have something to aim at when punching holes in my wall.
I'm bringing it back
The New York Giants are a team in the National Football League
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Jan 25, 2012 10:13 AM EST up reply actions
With all the hype of the Superbowl don't be surprised to see more stupid comments from the young ones.
I have heard the week leading up to the game is super crazy and guys can lose focus very easy with microphones shoved in your face and lots of attention. Hopefully the guys who have been here before guide the young ones to stay focus and be careful what they say or do
no one has said anything stupid yet?
but I agree, plenty to celebrate after the superblow. just stay outta trouble and get back to work!!!!!
GO GIANTS!!
Regardless of what happens, No playoffs, playoffs, no superblow, superblow.... The 2011/2012 is one of my favorite Giants Teams of all time.
Yes, at some point, one of the young guys is going to do something stupid....

I got a GIF for that!
Giants by 17 over GB, take it to the bank!
Giants by 10 over SF, take it to the bank! Well, OK, by 3, but we are Super Bowl bound!!!!!!!
by Fester McDougal on Jan 25, 2012 10:07 AM EST up reply actions
I think that's film of the Eli Manning isn't elite club
Eli is our King!
i do'nt have speakers but this video looked interesting:
That confirms it
You have to be a rocket scientist to understand Perry’s defensive schemes. I’ll just keep operating the Slurpee machine at the 7-11 and trying to short change the customers
It's not that complicated
Fewell just does a horrible job explaining it.
JPP + Cruz + Nicks + Eli
Yea, I'm excited about the next 10 years.
Describes last Sunday perfectly

I got a GIF for that!
Giants by 17 over GB, take it to the bank!
Giants by 10 over SF, take it to the bank! Well, OK, by 3, but we are Super Bowl bound!!!!!!!
by Fester McDougal on Jan 25, 2012 10:16 AM EST reply actions
that is on my home desktop
I called it the M N C – Monster Ninja Crew
Regardless of what happens, No playoffs, playoffs, no superblow, superblow.... The 2011/2012 is one of my favorite Giants Teams of all time.
Can you post it?
This one is too small
by DieHardGiants on Jan 25, 2012 10:27 AM EST up reply actions
I just had my girl make it larger through
photoshop. I am at work now. Sorry buddy.
Regardless of what happens, No playoffs, playoffs, no superblow, superblow.... The 2011/2012 is one of my favorite Giants Teams of all time.
On the success of NY/SF ratings and failure of Idol
If America was like me, all the Giants fans by the end of the game were too emotionally spent and drunk to consider watching television
You PLAY to WIN the GAME.
Dear Tebow, please let the Giants beat the 49ers.
by Simms-McConkey on Jan 25, 2012 10:40 AM EST reply actions
It's not like Idol didn't replay the Sunday version again last night
Cause you know most every Giant household TV switched to Sportscenter after the game
by DieHardGiants on Jan 25, 2012 10:43 AM EST up reply actions
NFL network
More straight live, less of ding dongs telling me what I saw
Eli is our King!
eh, cable is already too expensive
No NFL network = no boring Thursday night games
by DieHardGiants on Jan 25, 2012 10:55 AM EST up reply actions
I get the NFL network and dont pay for cable
firstrow.. hint hint…
Regardless of what happens, No playoffs, playoffs, no superblow, superblow.... The 2011/2012 is one of my favorite Giants Teams of all time.
I went to the My9 Post game show with Amani
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Jan 25, 2012 11:26 AM EST up reply actions
I went to the My9 Post game show with Amani
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Jan 25, 2012 11:26 AM EST up reply actions
not meant to post it twice
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Jan 25, 2012 11:26 AM EST up reply actions
Me too!
Love being back on the East Coast at this time. Real Giants post game coverage not 2 seconds mixed in with a litany of ESPN stupidity.
I ran out of my house
And Screamed at the top of my lungs Giants are going to the Superbowl!!!!
Why is Tom Quinn still here? I loves me some Coach Clawfin.
I re-watched the game over and over
Went to bed around 4. Hungover as hell monday!
by Giant Ken on Jan 25, 2012 10:52 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I went to bed at 2 AM
Jacobs to Eli: You're a beast, man. I can't say that enough!
My neighbor said hi...I ran over and tackled him...
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
I just think that no one cares about american idol
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
by Rorschach44 on Jan 25, 2012 11:42 AM EST up reply actions
LOL! Exactly
yeah all us football fans are big American Idol Fans. Hhahahah GTFOH
Why is Tom Quinn still here? I loves me some Coach Clawfin.
Anybody who watches that shit...
Needs to dim their light and wax their carrots more…
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Vindication
so many questioned Eli’s leadership. Even some Giants fans. Mostly because some have a distorted view on how a leader should behave. All leaders aren’t an In Your Face leader.
Jacobs to Eli: You're a beast, man. I can't say that enough!
I never ever felt he needed vindication of any sort...
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
I've posted that at least 100 times
Joe Montana, Bart Starr, Bob Griese, tons of Hall of Fame QBs that didn’t run around calling guys out and screaming
Too many people let numb nuts like Skip Clueless or Steven A Myth tell them how to think.
Eli is our King!
I agree & have posted the same thing
I think a lot of this was due to Tiki being a spoiled idiot and calling out Eli, when he thought he was a journalist. I hate tiki as much as I hate the eagles.
by Giant Ken on Jan 25, 2012 11:07 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Alex Smith
needs vindication… Eli not so much…
Regardless of what happens, No playoffs, playoffs, no superblow, superblow.... The 2011/2012 is one of my favorite Giants Teams of all time.

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