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A look back at all seven Giants-49ers playoff games. Some great memories, and plenty of painful ones.

4 months ago Ed_valentine_2_tiny Ed Valentine 75 comments 0 recs  | 

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Nice recap, Ed

Looking back, ‘81-’82 was a strange time for the franchise…Scott Brunner stepped up and made big plays after Simms went down and led us to a playoff victory, and things were looking promising with a rookie name Lawrence Taylor stepping up and making big plays and over the field.

The future was bright, but Simms blew out his knee in the preseason in ’82 and then the players strike ensued. The playoffs were extended to a 16-team (8 per conference) tournament-style format, but Big Blue finished 4-5, missed the dance, and Ray Perkins bolted for the Crimson Tide.

Thankfully, George Young hired Perkins’ DC to be head coach, and the rest, as they say, is history…

by Step up and make big plays on Jan 21, 2012 3:56 PM EST reply actions  

People forget that Parcells really struggled his first year as head coach

By his own admission he took too much advice and was very indecisive. He ended up playing Brunner over Simms for a while, and then seemingly all at once found himself. Re-tooled the team into a physical kick your face in outfit.

Eli is our King!

by trueblue63 on Jan 21, 2012 4:34 PM EST up reply actions  

excellent point

Many a coach these days would get the hook after his first season if he finished 3-12-1. Seems like the pressure to win now is paramount these days.

Sports are full with such examples…crass of me to bring Philly into the discussion, I know, but Mike Schmidt bat less than .200 in his first season with the Phils, and he had over 350+ ABs. Nowadays, guys like Parcells and Schmidt would be long gone if they started that poorly.

by Step up and make big plays on Jan 21, 2012 4:51 PM EST up reply actions  

May have been the third best thing George Young did

1) Draft the GOAT
2) Draft Prince Valiant
3) Stick with the Tuna

Eli is our King!

by trueblue63 on Jan 21, 2012 4:53 PM EST up reply actions  

I remember Hostetler in '90

Stepping up and….and…and ummm….goodness, whats the word im looking for?

by Nicks4Six on Jan 21, 2012 4:02 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

making plays on the ball?

Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows

by Rorschach44 on Jan 21, 2012 4:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Man he's small

5-9, but a solid 190, bet he’s good at breakin tackles. Seems like something the Big Boss Man likes.

Eli is our King!

by trueblue63 on Jan 21, 2012 4:57 PM EST up reply actions  

190 my ass

if he’s even a buck seventy-five soaking wet, I’d be shocked.

by TNYFBG on Jan 21, 2012 5:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Ok but then of can 2nd guess every wt listed

Its easier to just assume they are all reasonablely close

Eli is our King!

by trueblue63 on Jan 21, 2012 5:51 PM EST up reply actions  

lol

fair enough, like how AB somehow grew 2 inches and 25 lbs this offseason?

I generally take all these #s as complete crap. The fat men aren’t as light as they say and the little guys pad their #s like crazy, and it’s probably for their own safety.

by TNYFBG on Jan 21, 2012 6:00 PM EST up reply actions  

The weight numbers on the bigger guys are notoriously wrong, even though they actually weigh in at those numbers

The weights are taken at the official weigh in day at training camp. Virtually every player has a weigh in number, if they come in over weight they get fined or lose weigh in bonus. So what happens is guys drop 10-20-30 lbs in the 7-14 days before weigh in. Then they start eating again and blow up.

I doubt JJ is too light, the Giants are notorious for wanting guys that are stronger, of course, JR has broken certain patterns.

Eli is our King!

by trueblue63 on Jan 21, 2012 10:51 PM EST up reply actions  

I want winners to show up

nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!

Just ordered FatHeads for all available Giants. Now I have something to aim at when punching holes in my wall.

by nywins42 on Jan 21, 2012 5:16 PM EST up reply actions  

SBNation Bay Area...figured I'd save you guys the time and post the joke of an article right here.
While most of the preview material has revolved around the San Francisco 49ers’ secondary against the New York Giants’ receivers, the biggest thing to watch will be the New York defense against the San Francisco offense. That’s because so much has changed in that regard since the first meeting. San Francisco’s offense will look much different, and that’s certainly a good thing.

Aside from the fact that Alex Smith is infinitely more confident this go-round, the 49ers don’t have Braylon Edwards messing things up in the end zone. Maybe that sounds harsh, but it’s absolutely true. He was a liability on the field and there was multiple points in which he and Alex were out of sync, costing the 49ers in the red zone.

Plus, Frank Gore will be a factor this time around. He left the first meeting with zero yards off of six carries, and probably shouldn’t have played in the first place. Everyone knew he wasn’t 100 percent going into that game, but now Gore is as healthy as he can possibly be and he’s eyeing the goal he’s had little chance of sniffing his entire career: a chance to play in the Super Bowl.

Don’t buy into the hype when it comes to the New York defense. It has looked great the last couple of outings, but overall, they’ve shown they can be beat. They’re ranked 19th in the league in regards to stopping the run, lending credibility to the fact that Gore’s health will be a factor in this one. They also were ranked 27th in the NFL in total defense, helped along by a poor pass defense that ranked among the bottom four in the NFL.

One thing they can do is get to the quarterback. But with a healthy Gore, this could lead to them biting on run plays and giving up big plays to Gore, who is always looking to take advantage of the smallest opportunity to break one big. Alex also should be looking to get the ball out early. Really, it’s hard to see how the Giants’ defense will really shut down the 49ers at this point.

nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!

Just ordered FatHeads for all available Giants. Now I have something to aim at when punching holes in my wall.

by nywins42 on Jan 21, 2012 5:19 PM EST reply actions  

their offense looks much different, but so does our defense.

and if he doesn’t want to buy into that “hype”, why should I buy into the “hype” that the Niners offense is any different, although from watching them last week and plenty of times since the Giants faced them…their offense is absolutely no different.

Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows

by Rorschach44 on Jan 21, 2012 5:49 PM EST up reply actions  

LOL
Really, it’s hard to see how the Giants’ defense will really shut down the 49ers at this point.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle

by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 21, 2012 5:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Whoever said that will be like this Sunday evening

This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.

by BB1156 on Jan 22, 2012 12:12 AM EST up reply actions  

All I know is 2 equally great offenses played last week

one scored 20 points, 264 passing yards, 388 total

one scored 32 points, 432 passing, 478 total.

Now, which team has the shitty defense?

by TNYFBG on Jan 21, 2012 5:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Who posted that?

Sounds like some of the guys that post on BBV

Eli is our King!

by trueblue63 on Jan 21, 2012 6:00 PM EST up reply actions  

The last sentence is unfortunate...

But all the points he makes, at least about us, are valid. Alex Smith is way more confident, and if Gore has 0 yards again I’ll be shocked. And he’s right – Braylon Edwards was actually hurting us by being on the field.

I'm just a simple Niners fan trying to make my way in the universe.

by Tim Lincecum's Bong on Jan 21, 2012 6:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Inconsistent

Nicks was dealing with a hamstring injury and Manningham was dealing with a knee injury. Maybe a healthy Manningham dives for that deep ball to tie the game. Boley left the last game and the 49ers scored right after his departure. He’s healthy. While Gore left the game early, Bradhsaw didn’t play at all. This is a very different Giants team coming to play tomorrow.

Team Ghost: Manningham, Sintim, Beckum, Barden, JPP, Anvil, Ross

by GhostDini on Jan 21, 2012 7:32 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree with that

But as I said, the points he makes while talking about the Niners are legitimate.

I'm just a simple Niners fan trying to make my way in the universe.

by Tim Lincecum's Bong on Jan 21, 2012 7:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Ok but you have to admit that his points about he Giants indicate either

1) he hasn’t really watched the Giants last two games

Or

2) he just wants to believe that the Niners will win and the post was written conclusion first

Eli is our King!

by trueblue63 on Jan 21, 2012 11:05 PM EST up reply actions  

It isn't hard to see at all actually

This defense is going to step up and make big plays all game long. Shut out the Falcons who have a better offense than the 49ers and we gave up 2 FGs to the best offense in the league along with 2 gift wrapped TDs from the refs. 49ers won’t admit it but they know scoring on this defense will be tough as nails.

Die hard Giants fan since wide Right! I was 5...

I'm down wit JPP
Yea you know me

Win Ugly.
-Eli Manning for MVP

by wangstu13 on Jan 22, 2012 12:33 AM EST up reply actions  

Niners

Exactly our d is going up a first ballot hofer in alex smith. They have a number one offense for a reason i mean 5 picks all year compared to eli who has never won a big game who throws 5 picks a half. And the giants finally win a playoff game and them and there fans think there gonna lose by only 10 pts haa smith and co will take the niners to the promise land and itll be 41-0 at half. Lets get it right

by Giants36 on Jan 21, 2012 5:50 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Honestly

I truly hope that niner fans comment is how there team feels. The heartbreak the bay area will feel in 27 n a half hrs oh soo sweet. GIANTS all day!! Baybay

by Giants36 on Jan 21, 2012 5:52 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Here in SF

Lots of sunshine and Giants wear on the street! Rained hard last night but clear now. Hopefully the weather holds.

by NorthwestFan on Jan 21, 2012 6:49 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Repect all, Fear none

I got a GIF for that!
Giants by 17 over GB, take it to the bank!
Giants by 10 over SF, take it to the bank!

by Fester McDougal on Jan 21, 2012 7:52 PM EST reply actions  

talk is cheap

play the game

JPP is the kraken

by GiantBeing on Jan 21, 2012 7:54 PM EST up reply actions  

so funny

These 49er fans i twll ya they said the Giants d was overrated the last few weeks. i cant even tell you how funny this is we have basically shut Dow the numer 1,11,12, and 21 ranked offenses mean while the 49ers have the #18th offense. i will take my chances with our D

by g-men_fan on Jan 21, 2012 7:56 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

I sooooo much want to be doing this in 26 hours....

This would not be bad either….

I got a GIF for that!
Giants by 17 over GB, take it to the bank!
Giants by 10 over SF, take it to the bank!

by Fester McDougal on Jan 21, 2012 8:41 PM EST reply actions  

Can someone tell me why posts are time stamped

PST??? Most of us be EST

I got a GIF for that!
Giants by 17 over GB, take it to the bank!
Giants by 10 over SF, take it to the bank!

by Fester McDougal on Jan 21, 2012 8:43 PM EST reply actions  

Go to your account and you can change it to whatever time zone you want.

nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!

Just ordered FatHeads for all available Giants. Now I have something to aim at when punching holes in my wall.

by nywins42 on Jan 21, 2012 9:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Go to your profile and select "edit account and settings"

nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!

Just ordered FatHeads for all available Giants. Now I have something to aim at when punching holes in my wall.

by nywins42 on Jan 21, 2012 9:14 PM EST up reply actions  

yea you can do that

but it is interesting why that is the default setting for the site, no?

Giants Mets, JPP is a MONSTER

by theIke on Jan 21, 2012 11:48 PM EST up reply actions  

It definitely is odd.

Honestly, I just figured out that you could change your time zone. Don’t know why it’s set on Pacific. Gotta have something to do with whoever controls “SBNation” being out west.

nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!

Just ordered FatHeads for all available Giants. Now I have something to aim at when punching holes in my wall.

by nywins42 on Jan 22, 2012 8:28 AM EST up reply actions  

Thanks for the memories

Of Candlestick and Stroh
Marshall decking Joe
Burt’s cheap shot on Hostetler, Craigs fumble way to go
How lovely, it was….

by maraman on Jan 21, 2012 9:05 PM EST reply actions  

Watch LT's pursuit on that play...

crazy pass rush from the craziest pass rusher of all time.

by Step up and make big plays on Jan 21, 2012 11:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Closing Speed

Never seen another guy anything remotely like him

You remember how he used to chase down RBs? I liked that almost as much as the pass rush, especially in the sweeps away from him. Man I miss watching him play.

Eli is our King!

by trueblue63 on Jan 21, 2012 11:41 PM EST up reply actions  

18 more hours!

Blue Ivy? I don't even know what that means?
No one knows what it means, but its provocative, it gets the people going!

by BigBlueWreckingYou on Jan 21, 2012 10:15 PM EST reply actions  

Time will fly like Manningham

This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.

by BB1156 on Jan 21, 2012 11:54 PM EST up reply actions  

This will be a great game

may the best team win!

Brad James

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With Coach Zorro on our side, we will slice opponents to ribbons. Tim Tebow gives me hope and I already have faith and charity in my heart! I see a propitious future rife with Lombardis for our Broncos!

by the new Bradfather on Jan 22, 2012 12:29 AM EST reply actions  

i don't do waiting well

Sigh.

Now everyone will say Eli is in Bradys class. F*ck me

by PatNation85 on Nov 6, 2011 4:31 PM PST

by AJ_in_VA on Jan 22, 2012 1:06 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

Hear you,

lol enjoy watching this and it will take some time off your hands

http://tv.winelibrary.com/2008/02/04/the-giants-won-the-super-bowl-and-its-episode-400/

This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.

by BB1156 on Jan 22, 2012 1:35 AM EST up reply actions  

haha

these guys are half drunk and comical

JPP is the kraken

by GiantBeing on Jan 22, 2012 2:14 AM EST up reply actions  

They are having a good time and yes i find it comical and whimsical too

This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.

by BB1156 on Jan 22, 2012 2:18 AM EST up reply actions  

Letss gooo

Gmenn cant freakin wait 4 years in waiting for this day to come Easy E coming home with that new nfc crown 31-16 babby letss GOO GIANTTTS!!!!

by Giants36 on Jan 22, 2012 2:06 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

16 hours

till gametime

JPP is the kraken

by GiantBeing on Jan 22, 2012 2:10 AM EST reply actions  

I can not sleep I can not eat. I am a giants fan for sure. I even have that bad feeling like last week.

by Giantstep on Jan 22, 2012 2:46 AM EST reply actions  

Perry Fewell to ....

Sorry to change the topic. Can’t sleep waiting for the game to come up in 13 hrs..

I hear Mr. HiFi himself may be a candidate for Tampa’s HC job?

The BIG BLUE Wrecking Crew > Fixed Games !!

by BigBlueCrew! on Jan 22, 2012 5:28 AM EST reply actions  

I hope not

As much as I’ve been a critic of his this year, I’d rather hope he learned his personnel’s strengths and have the continuity of a third year with the same DC. Not sure there is an assistant ready to move up and an outside new guy might put us back.
But let’s get back to the big game! I want to see Jacobs lay some lumber early and let that SF D know they are in for a loong day!

Go Giants!

by ronjohnson on Jan 22, 2012 11:44 AM EST up reply actions  

12 hours to kick off

Travel day yesterday, and im awake wayyy too early. So psyched for this game! SF has no idea how good our D is and Smith’s last 4 minutes are no reflection of what is about to happen!

Eli is going to be a beast! Hakeem, Cruz and MM will be rumning free, I can feel it!

by Giant Ken on Jan 22, 2012 6:37 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

RIP Joepa

He influenced a lot of lives in a very positive way. He should have done more with the Sandusky horror, but I think today we should all mourn a guy who’s heart was in the right place for the kids in the program 99% of the time.

Go Giants!

by ronjohnson on Jan 22, 2012 11:40 AM EST reply actions  

It's funny how the roles of the teams have switched

Now the Giants are the pass minded team, while the 49ers are the great defense, run the ball team.

by mclaren_is_the_best on Jan 22, 2012 12:46 PM EST reply actions  

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