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Measuring Greatness

Comparing quarterbacks at different stages of the careers is difficult. So, to compare, we'll take a sample size from years four through eight to see how one quarterback stacks up against the two quarterbacks that defined the position over the past decade.

Tom Brady (2003-2007)

Peyton Manning (2001-2005)

Eli Manning (2007-2011)

Single season highs (amongst all three):

Attempts: 591 (Peyton Manning, 2002)

Completion percentage: 68.9 (Tom Brady, 2007)

Yards: 4,933 (Eli Manning, 2011)

Yards per attempt: 9.2 (Peyton Manning, 2004)

Touchdowns: 50 (Tom Brady, 2007)

Interceptions: 25 (Eli Manning, 2010)

Completions (20+): 68 (Peyton Manning, 2011)

Completions (40+): 18 (Eli Manning, 2011)

This does not say a whole lot. However, it sets up a point I'd like to make when we look at stats collectively over a five year sample.

Still, I find it impressive that Eli has completed more 40+ yard passes in 2011 with Hakeem Nicks and Victor Cruz than either of the other two have with Hall of Fame talent to throw to at some point in this sample.

Also, if you will note, each quarterback owns several different stats. This sample is not to obscure any of the accomplishments of Brady or big brother Peyton either, as you will note, both of their statistically most impressive seasons ('04 for Manning and '07 for Brady) are included.

Now, let's look at how each quarterback has fared over a combined five seasons.

(Attempts)

Tom Brady: 2,625

Peyton Manning: 2,654

Eli Manning: 2,645

(Completions)

Tom Brady: 1,656

Peyton Manning: 1,755

Eli Manning: 1,601

(Completion Percentage)

Tom Brady: 63%

Peyton Manning: 66%

Eli Manning: 61%

(Yards)

Tom Brady: 19,757

Peyton Manning: 20,902

Eli Manning: 19,530

(Yards per attempt)

Tom Brady: 7.5

Peyton Manning: 7.9

Eli Manning: 7.4

Thus far, the numbers are so close that it's starting to get a little weird. Remember the disclaimer. This looks at the same years (4-8) in each of these quarterback's careers. There was no premeditation in this presentation. I am not picking and choosing numbers in the presentation to favor one quarterback over another.

(Touchdowns)

Tom Brady: 151

Peyton Manning: 161

Eli Manning: 141

(interceptions)

Tom Brady: 60

Peyton Manning: 72

Eli Manning: 85

This is the area that people will talk most about. Touchdown passes and interceptions, and as far as differential goes, Eli is a bit off the mark of the other two (+56). Tom Brady weighs in at +91, while big brother is up at +89.

The problem is, a touchdown pass versus interception differential does not exactly correlate. It's used all of the time as a measurement, for reasons that are based mostly on convenience.

But, other stats get us right back to where we were originally.

(Completions of 20+yards)

Tom Brady: 257

Peyton Manning: 264

Eli Manning: 252

(Completions of 40+ yards)

Tom Brady: 50

Peyton Manning: 50

Eli Manning: 47

These stats are about as on par between three quarterbacks as you'll ever see.

This last measure is not really much of a measure. But obviously a quarterback's numbers will be impacted by who he is throwing the ball to.

Tom Brady's leading receivers:

2003: Deion Branch, David Givens

2004: David Givens, David Patten

2005: Deion Branch, David Givens

2006: Reche Caldwell, Ben Watson

2007: Randy Moss, Wes Welker

Peyton Manning's leading receivers:

2001: Marvin Harrison, Marcus Pollard

2002: Marvin Harrison, Reggie Wayne

2003: Marvin Harrison, Reggie Wayne

2004: Reggie Wayne, Marvin Harrison

2005: Marvin Harrison, Reggie Wayne

Eli Manning's leading receivers:

2007: Plaxico Burress, Amani Toomer

2008: Domenik Hixon, Amani Toomer

2009: Steve Smith, Mario Manningham

2010: Hakeem Nicks, Mario Manningham

2011: Victor Cruz, Hakeem Nicks

Does this make or break the argument? No. Peyton Manning enjoys the luxury of a pair of receivers that features one Hall of Fame lock (Harrison) and one who will likely fall just short (Wayne). Tom Brady played several years with no-name receivers, but he posted his monster season when he got some help (Moss and Welker). Eli has had quite the mixed bag at receiver and now finally has a really promising group in place. Despite this, he's right in the mix with Brady and Peyton on just about every stat.

Elite? Maybe.

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I'm not surprised

but if you were to include 3rd down stats, 4th quarter and final 2 minutes of 1st half and game, I think Eli would lead in some of those, but yes he is Eli-Te!!

by BigBlueCrew_jfl on Jan 21, 2012 4:29 AM EST reply actions  

Interesting

Freedom is a road seldom traveled by the multitudes...

by Major on Jan 21, 2012 9:57 AM EST reply actions  

Eli didn't say that

But Cool Papa Bell, the Negro Leagues great, did.

by IRememberRocky on Jan 21, 2012 1:20 PM EST reply actions  

This is heresy amongst football fans, but

Eli’s career path is very very similar to Brady

Brady won titles earlier because he had a stalwart defense to lean on.

Eli is our King!

by trueblue63 on Jan 21, 2012 4:29 PM EST reply actions  

This is outstanding, rec'd

An interesting comparison because of how close they are in the numbers.

What I like about our boy, is he is still ascending in his career. And he is starting to put himself on the top of some very impressive lists. Lists that include winning in the clutch.

Against SF, I saw a kid who was getting killed, yet never wavered in his toughness, never wavered in his ability to keep his focus downfield and deliver the ball. He is as clutch as clutch gets.

Colin Cowherd said this morning that “Peyton is ARod and Eli is Jeter.” I found that to be a fabulous comparison.

The truth. The REAL voice of reason

by tommy d. on Jan 23, 2012 12:29 PM EST reply actions  

Couldn't have put it better

Eli has had some rocky seasons but he’s made great strides in each and every one.

Some of the throws he made downfield, having had to scramble out of the pocket and get hit by multiple linemen are throws that you can look at and say that no other quarterback in the league makes that throw. The 49ers did everything you could ask a team to do defensively and more, and yet, Eli was just that good on Sunday.

And the scary part is that he’s entering the phase of his career where monster numbers are going to become the norm, especially if the Giants can keep that receiving core intact.

by Max Schwager on Jan 23, 2012 7:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Great Article

This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.

by BB1156 on Jan 24, 2012 3:06 AM EST reply actions  

What?
Completions (20+): 68 (Peyton Manning, 2011)

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by netsareboss on Jan 26, 2012 7:10 PM EST reply actions  

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