2012 NFC Championship Game: Rain, Rain Won't Go Away For Giants-49ers
Are the New York Giants better mudders than the San Francisco 49ers? Seems like we are going to have to find out Sunday in the NFC Championship Game.
According to WeatherChannel.com, it is supposed to start raining in San Francisco on Thursday and pretty much not stop until Monday. That, of course, means messy conditions Sunday at Candlestick Park.
Does bad weather favor the Giants or the 49ers? You can probably make an argument either way.
The Giants are the big-play offense that depends on vertical plays in the passing game and yards after catch from their receivers. Theoretically, those would be harder to come by on a wet, slippery track. You could also argue that rain could impact the ability to throw the ball accurately to begin with.
The 49ers offense is built around Frank Gore and the running game, so a muddy track should not be as much of an issue for them. However, on paper the 49ers have an advantage in the kicking game with punter Andy Lee and placekicker David Akers both being named All-Pro, and a messy track might neutralize that, especially when it comes to Akers, a perennial Giants nemesis.
Thoughts, Giants fans?
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Ehh not a big deal...
Weather is my last concern for this game, and I think it should be the Giants last concern as well, don’t worry about things you have no control over. Now beating the 9ers thats something they should not only be concerned with, but also have some control over.
ELIte
by colinlovestheknicks on Jan 18, 2012 9:32 AM EST reply actions
Yes. Remember Bradshaw have a 80 TD in a snowstorm that sent us to superbowl last time?
This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.
When there are slippery conditions
I’ve often heard it favors the receivers, because they can make a change of direction more efficiently than the defenders. As long as it isn’t raining DURING the game, this should favor a passing offense. If it does indeed rain at kick-off time, just thank goodness we don’t have Aikman at quarterback. That guy couldn’t throw a wet ball to save his life.
I would be slightly concerned how a muddy track might affect the NYG pass rush.
Correct me if I'm wrong
But the field doesn’t get muddy. It’s more like muck. Which is a high sandy concentration, like running through glue.
YOu guys have become WAY more of a passing team. This will affect you guys more,
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we could easily say that we could sell out against the run vs the 49ers....forcing them to pass....
it would be more difficult to pass in the weather for Smith than it would Eli
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by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 18, 2012 9:39 AM EST up reply actions
I guess it all depends how bad the weather will be, but that run D that the Niners are packing is viscious. Those guys get at you fast and they just do not miss tackles, they just don’t.
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thats fine, we really don't run anyway haha
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by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 18, 2012 10:01 AM EST up reply actions
thats fine, we really don’t CAN’t run anyway haha
sly smirk
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equally true.
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by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 18, 2012 10:05 AM EST up reply actions
32nd in the league in rushing
is bad no matter how much you slice it. no its bad.
World Series attitude, champagne bottle life, nothing every changes so tonight is like tomorrow night.
Remind me how the weather was when we played Atlanta. Did it not rain a during or before the game?
This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.
Precisely why mud will screw the Niners
A fast defense depends on being able to see react and move. The mud will eliminate their huge speed on defense as much as it will our over the top passing game. But wait, we make big plays catching 10 yarders and running thru guys.
and BJ and AB run to contact. Especially an up and down runner like BJ who will get more traction with his feet under his center of gravity.
The real concern for me as a Giants fan, turnovers, no way to predict turnovers in the slop, could fubar our whole game.
Eli is our King!
Those guys get at you fast and they just do not miss tackles, they just don’t.
Dont cha think the wet track will affect that.. Wet track hurts their fast LBs .
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Allow me to rephrase that:
Yu guys have become WAY more of a passing team. This will affect you guys more, if at all
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It's a good problem to worry about, isnt' it?
"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning
Eli has played in the Meadowlands for the past 8 years.
He’s seen literally everything. Non-factor.
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by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 18, 2012 9:38 AM EST reply actions
Except for mud
no mud with field turf…
by NYStateofMind on Jan 18, 2012 6:43 PM EST up reply actions
London game Eli actually ran for a TD.
This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.
It could go either way
someone on espn or nfl network was saying how the rain will help Eli get more time to throw. They said that the 9ers D line works a lot on stunts and quick moves which should be nullified or at least retarded a bit to the wet ground. A second or two will help give Eli and the receivers more time to get open.
I have not yet begun to procrastinate
It was Collinsworth on NFL Network. the same problem will happen to Osi
Tuck and JPP are more grind it out power rushers, so it shouldn’t affect them as much
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by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 18, 2012 9:40 AM EST up reply actions
It's not just the 49ers front
Willis, Bowman, Goldson, Whitner, will see their strength of faster movement and quicker reacting more violent change of direction significantly reduced
For us, Boley, Osi, KP? Maybe, who else on our D relies on the speed cutting game?
Eli is our King!
prince
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by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 18, 2012 11:08 AM EST up reply actions
Yes, but right now he's a run and chase guy
We won’t put him anywhere near the slot
Ross too. We tend to build Physical and Fast, definitely part of the Wellingon Mara-George Young Legacy. JR has started to introduce more shifty guys, but it seemed like forever that we had one guy and that was it (Meggett, Hilliard, Tiki)
Eli is our King!
That's true. JWill as well, I suppose
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by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 18, 2012 11:13 AM EST up reply actions
Yup
If my memory serves we played the Niners on a squishy surface in 81 playoffs (Brunner’s game) they hung 37 on an LT/Carson defense. Squishy track isn’t good for a fast defense.
Eli is our King!
Gore + Mud = Bad
I gotta think that Cruz + Mud = Good. The way he cuts? As long as he catches it, he could be making big plays….
Am looking forward to 2 salsa dances.
This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.
I just don't see this as much of a factor..
I’d rather be game planning for the team that beat us already this season, than the weather the game may or may not pose.
ELIte
by colinlovestheknicks on Jan 18, 2012 9:40 AM EST reply actions
Well, they should plan for the weather too as it does come into play but yes the main focus is the opponent team since the weather will affect them too.
This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.
All Giant receivers just need to get the Palmolive dish washing gloves....
Like Nicks, and we are good to go
Nicks has some special gloves for bad weather.
This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.
I don't see it as a big deal at all...
The Giants are used to crappy weather…I think it will effect Smith more than Eli…and our running game has come to life, so I think we’re in good shape there as well…
The only thing that will be effected is that Candlestick when we blow it out…..
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I agree
for the most part… the Niners do have a top notch rush defense… I hope we can get our run game mojo working and get some yards on the ground, but I wouldn’t bet the house on it.
Giants are Mudders
Giants mothers were mudders and their mothers mothers were mudders. I don’t for see a problem except holding on to the Rock will become more difficult for both offenses.
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by costanza! on Jan 18, 2012 9:49 AM EST reply actions 2 recs
lol

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by The Always Well Dressed... on Jan 18, 2012 9:57 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Hahaha!!!!
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lol
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by Larry Soprano on Jan 18, 2012 10:23 AM EST up reply actions
i know what an udder is but what is a mudder?
This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.
Been hearing different opinions on who it affects most
Giants with their passing game and big plays may be slowed up by the rainy conditions but… the 9ers have a speed defense, especially the LBs, which may slow them up as well.
Guess we won’t know for sure until Sunday, if the weather report remains the same of course.
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Jan 18, 2012 10:06 AM EST reply actions
I don't think it will affect either too much. A bit of rain...jeeez....its as if both are dome teams suddenly playing
in a Tsunami…just some more insignificant stuff for the media to parse because they are microanalyzing everything.
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by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 18, 2012 10:09 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I agree
Both outdoor teams. There may be some sloppy plays but overall, both squads will play their game.
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Jan 18, 2012 10:13 AM EST up reply actions
U don't know...
Granted, Giants are used to playing in the rain but with the composition of oir old and new field this team never really had to deal with mud. The niners on the other hand play in a field that becomes muddy each time it rains so in a sense tgey have more experience playing in mud and thus may have the advantage.
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damn this spell correct!
by LoNJDTechnology on Jan 18, 2012 10:55 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
I'm not sure
how many muddy/sloppy games the 9ers have played this year. If they played in some and dominated, edge goes to them. Guess we have to wait and see
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Jan 18, 2012 11:00 AM EST up reply actions
If that’s the case, it will cancel out and it will be a non-factor.
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It balances out...both teams will have to deal with it...I see no advantage for either of them..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
That's the truth
I think it helps us cause we’re more veteran. So no on field edge, but I suspect our guys, especially Eli, can think back to when their nuts were against the wall and persevere thru it.
Eli is our King!
No big deal
I think it hurts both D’s more…. O players do, D players react, I think you’re more likely to slip trying to react to a double move, say, than making it. Also think it adds an extra couple turnovers to the mix… just have to make sure they go our way.
So in other news
At the start of the third quarter, Tebow tore cartilage on his first rib where it attaches to his sternum, bruised his lung and had fluid buildup in his pleural cavity, according to an NFL source.
Take that Romo
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Jan 18, 2012 10:19 AM EST reply actions
boom! take that
eagles romo
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by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 18, 2012 10:21 AM EST up reply actions
Are they going to remove it
and make Eve?
by TNYFBG on Jan 18, 2012 10:25 AM EST up reply actions 7 recs
ha
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by Larry Soprano on Jan 18, 2012 10:26 AM EST up reply actions
LOL
wow, that was good
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Jan 18, 2012 10:27 AM EST up reply actions
Hahaha!!!!
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ROFLZ
A Giants fan deep in Iggles territory.
by Spagasaurus on Jan 18, 2012 12:23 PM EST up reply actions
both teams have to play on it
i was never one to say weather gives anyone an advantage.
by The Blood of Eli on Jan 18, 2012 10:20 AM EST reply actions
and.....
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Jan 18, 2012 10:27 AM EST up reply actions
rain or shine
its definitely going down like the catalina wine mixer
by The Blood of Eli on Jan 18, 2012 10:28 AM EST up reply actions 6 recs
rec'd
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by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 18, 2012 10:29 AM EST up reply actions
I will REC this
everyday and twice on Sundays
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Jan 18, 2012 10:30 AM EST up reply actions
hey man we havnt had a mis-step since i came on here and said it back before the jets game lol
by The Blood of Eli on Jan 18, 2012 10:32 AM EST up reply actions
I love the use of the phrase
how/why did you come up with it? Did you just watch Stepbrothers the day before?
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Jan 18, 2012 10:35 AM EST up reply actions
lil wayne says it in one of his lesser known mixtape songs
“its goin down like the catalina wine mixer!!!”
by The Blood of Eli on Jan 18, 2012 10:35 AM EST up reply actions
nice
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Jan 18, 2012 10:38 AM EST up reply actions
Been a good luck charm
It’s the ******* Catalina Wine Mixer!!
Husker/Giants/Mets fan living behind enemy lines.
Pow pow
FIRE Perry Fewell
by bleedblue12 on Jan 18, 2012 10:53 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
I hear the 49ers field crew threw water on the field to slow the Saints down. I saw players from both sides slipping
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by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 18, 2012 10:23 AM EST reply actions
Exactly. Some people are making it sound like that bad weather does not affect the 49ers.
This is more to our advantage then theirs.
This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.
this plays into the Giants hands
really, anything does. This team is so versatile on offense they can do anything. They’ll just keep the passes within 20 yards and have our WRs either break tackles or have the defender fall on his ass.
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This team is so versatile on offense they can do anything.
They haven’t been able to run the ball this season.
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the 2011 regular season is over
in 2012, in the POSTseason, they have been able to run the ball quite well
by The Blood of Eli on Jan 18, 2012 10:33 AM EST up reply actions
That Niners run D is NOT the same as the Falcons and Packers
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falcons run d stands toe to toe with the niners
by The Blood of Eli on Jan 18, 2012 10:47 AM EST up reply actions
Come on man…not even close. Look at the RBs they’ve played.
88 yds Forte
Eagles-put up 133 yds, loss after Vick was out of the 4th.
115 rushing TB
Seattle and GB have no run game
Carolina put up 142
Lions-104 yds rushing allowed
83 to the colts
50 or less against the Saints and Titans (CJ was playing bad at this time)
162 to Houston
157 to Carolina
116 to Jacksonville
164 to the Saints
Thats not that good of a rush D
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well i guess not
i dont have any argument to come back at you with other than… they wont stop eli? lol
by The Blood of Eli on Jan 18, 2012 10:57 AM EST up reply actions
Falcons were a top 10 run D
not sure where.
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ranked 6 over all
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This is true
However, the Giants rushed for 93 yards against the Niners in the first meeting, without Bradshaw. I wouldn’t count out their running game just yet.
we have for the past four or five weeks.
172 yards vs ATL
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by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 18, 2012 10:34 AM EST up reply actions
That Niners run D is NOT the same as the Falcons and Packers
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ranked 6 over all
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Giant LB'zz SUCK!! Mark Herzlich, Jacquian Williams,...Maybe .. Sadly this has been modified.
You have to look at their most recent games...
They are running the ball just fine…
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That Niners run D is NOT the same as the Falcons and Packers
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Falcons run D was 6th in the NFL
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by Rorschach44 on Jan 18, 2012 10:44 AM EST up reply actions
I think
this team is now running the ball well… when they have to.
Falcons – run game came alive and set up the big plays to Nicks, Ham, etc.
Packers – AB’s play before the half and the runs in the 4th quarter to close out the game.
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Jan 18, 2012 10:37 AM EST up reply actions
That Niners run D is NOT the same as the Falcons and Packers.
(Why the hell am I repeating myself lol)
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Falcons were 6th in the NFL in rushing defense
not bad.
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by Rorschach44 on Jan 18, 2012 10:43 AM EST up reply actions
I think your point is understood.
However, oir running game has improved over thw last 3 or so games. Yes, SF has a formidable run D but not an invincible one. They can be had and I an sure that many examples of this can be found. The same elements that affect the Giants will affect the 49ers as well. Btw, our run has improved too and the SFs run game isn’t so hot.
by LoNJDTechnology on Jan 18, 2012 11:24 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
I still say it all depends on the trenches and who wins that battle. Plus the crowd will have a bigger affect that some wind and rain drops.
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Probably so.
Regarding the crowed that is. I also agree that this game will be decided by whoever wins the battle in the trenches and this depends on will. The Giants are not the same team that they were in the regular season. they are more motivated now. This Change in their mind set is clear to anyone who has followed the Giants throughout the season. I like our chances.
by LoNJDTechnology on Jan 18, 2012 11:40 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
I'm glad we beat Green Bay in New Jersey
because the Giants couldn’t possibly beat them in Lambeau.
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Just ordered FatHeads for all available Giants. Now I have something to aim at when punching holes in my wall.
by nywins42 on Jan 18, 2012 12:09 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
If it rains hard, it'll suppresss crowd noise as people get soggy
Plus if Giants get on top early, they might go home to get out of the rain
Eli is our King!
Running Backs tend to get banged up or hurt when trying to run against SF
A trend that continued for the Saints.
Not wishing injuries on anyone – just making a point on HOW physical the Niners D is…
by ColoradoNiner on Jan 18, 2012 1:08 PM EST up reply actions
Gisnts ran for 93 yrds in the 1st meeting without AB
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by costanza! on Jan 18, 2012 1:09 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
except for when they ran the ball well going through the playoffs
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by Rorschach44 on Jan 18, 2012 10:38 AM EST up reply actions
Man, I just looked this stat up...
Did you know that the Eagles are averaging 0 yds per game this postseason?
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by Larry Soprano on Jan 18, 2012 10:38 AM EST up reply actions 6 recs
damn 0 yards?
what the hell happened to them I thought they were good. Oh that’s right, they’re NOT PLAYING.
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by Rorschach44 on Jan 18, 2012 10:39 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
lol
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Haha, it’s funny cause we aren’t in the playoffs. clap clap clap
I’m just trying to have a discussion with another NFC east team, and they decide to bash me…typical
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cuz you started in with some uninformed bullcrap
of course the Giants running game sucked all year. But it hasn’t starting from around when Bradshaw came back. You’d know that if you weren’t trying to start crap.
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by Rorschach44 on Jan 18, 2012 10:42 AM EST up reply actions
How was I starting crap? The Niners run D ain’t no joke. I’m not gonna come here and say that the Giants will run all over the Niners cause I don’t believe that. It has nothing to do with me being an Eagles fan either.
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Falcons run D was 6th in the NFL
go away.
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by Rorschach44 on Jan 18, 2012 10:44 AM EST up reply actions
Meh, all of their wins came against mediocre rushing offenses.
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Didn't they beat the Eagles
Is McCoy now a mediocre rusher?
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Jan 18, 2012 10:49 AM EST up reply actions
The whole Eagles team is just Avg.
8-8> Average
Why is Tom Quinn still here? I loves me some Coach Clawfin.
what the hell man!
lets all collectively stop turning this into an argument about the Eagles. This guy comes over here and ruffles our feathers and now the focus is not where it should be!
FOCUS GENTLEMEN. FOCUS!
by The Blood of Eli on Jan 18, 2012 10:50 AM EST up reply actions
true true
Its all about Blue
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Jan 18, 2012 10:51 AM EST up reply actions
FN Eagles always ruffling my feathers. LOL!!
Why is Tom Quinn still here? I loves me some Coach Clawfin.
You guys are the ones that brought up the Eagles. I just want to talk about the NFC championship :/
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ok fine no more eagles
i will respond to your statistically showcase about the falcons above.
by The Blood of Eli on Jan 18, 2012 10:55 AM EST up reply actions
he ain't even ruffling feathers. He just made a point, I dunno why we're trying to run him out
instead of just responding with an answer.
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by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 18, 2012 10:51 AM EST up reply actions
He made the same point 3 times he
he must stutter or he is a ball breaker
Why is Tom Quinn still here? I loves me some Coach Clawfin.
that's true
just waiting for someone to respond is all. and we did, lol
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by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 18, 2012 10:54 AM EST up reply actions
Yea I agree
He’s an Eagle fan who wants nothing more than for the Giants to go down in flames this weekend so he’s going to look at it from that point of view and focus on reasons why the Niners will win, not on why the Giants will and he’s got a point our run O vs Niners run D favors the Niners.
I think I’m being fair
Falcons rush defense:
Come on man…not even close. Look at the RBs they’ve played.
88 yds Forte
Eagles-put up 133 yds, loss after Vick was out of the 4th.
115 rushing TB
Seattle and GB have no run game
Carolina put up 142
Lions-104 yds rushing allowed
83 to the colts
50 or less against the Saints and Titans (CJ was playing bad at this time)
162 to Houston
157 to Carolina
116 to Jacksonville
164 to the Saints
Thats not that good of a rush D
Obviously as an Eagles fan I hope the Giants lose and I’m seeing through rose colored glasses, but who wouldn’t. YOu can make the case that you guys are too. Having said that, it’s gonna come down to the trenches, NOT the run game
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Oh I agree about the Rush D
ATL is soft while SF is far from it.
Interesting thing about those stats though, they did face some of the top running teams in the league and the best 3 backs in Foster, McCoy, and MJJ, not only that teams like Philly and Carolina can be a bit misleading cause they have top running QBs which tend to scew those stats a bit becasue they make a lot of broken plays. So while I agree ATL is not a great run D by any streatch, the faced one of if not the toughest scedule of running teams all year. So those stats are not as awful as they suggest
Your point is taken though, SF is just brutally tough up front and that will be a huge challenge for the Giants on Sunday. To me the Giants don’t need to put up great running numbers they just need to keep SF honest so they can get some individual matchups down the field with the guys like Nicks, Cruz, and Manningham and hope they get some big play TDs.
+1000
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by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 18, 2012 11:08 AM EST up reply actions
And their pass defense was ranked 16th
behind the Colts of all teams. Maybe that’s why their run defense was so good (6th).
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The Falcons are a really weird team. They have talent, but they underachieve, yet their talent is overrated. Their coaching staff is kinda weird too, I’m not sure if they are good or overrated. I know they’ve had a few winning season and won the NFC last year (hard to believe), but I don’t buy the falcons as a legit contender, especially how they sold the house for Julio Jones when the clearly have other problems…see: Ryan, Matt.
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Well I had that mixed up
the 9ers pass defense is 16th while their rush defense is 1st.
"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning
In our playoff game against Falcons
Their D wasn’t soft. But it is more speed and technique than power and bulk. With that kind of D, your offense can’t have repeated 3 and outs. That’s what happened.
Eventually our power guys on the OL gt too many chances to grind down their DL/LB. then our running game kicked in. The 49ers are bigger than the Falcons, so that probably won’t happen.
The flip. Giants offense has become more efficient. They are able to cash in more and gain yards taking fewer chances (my opinion, Victor Cruz is still learning and becoming a more reliable route runner, MM’s knee is healthy and ABs foot is better). This has led to defenses taking more risks to stop us. Eli is precisely the kind of QB that will exploit that. So the whole offense is simply better at doing what they do. I don’t expect AB or BJ to grind it out with the Niners, but I don’t think they’ll shut down the while Giants offense. Too hard to stop all the options without giving up something.
Eli is our King!
Repeating the same thing is obnoxious...
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by bleedblue12 on Jan 18, 2012 11:01 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
Our defense sucked…and Vick didn’t play the 4th. We were up until he left the game
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One of these years Vick will finish a season without getting hurt
He’s just got to, right?
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by Larry Soprano on Jan 18, 2012 10:57 AM EST up reply actions
I don't think you're being unfair
Giants run game has gone from terrible to uneven by no means great. We struggeled mightely last week vs GB, Bradshaw had two big runs and both of them were a product of effort from AB and lack of from GB D not a tru O-line push. SF will not lack that type of effort.
I think Giant fans are just a little more confident because of two things. 1.) It has improved to some degree 2.) Even though its nothing special it does just enough to keep oppenets honest which allows the Giants to do what they do best and thats throw it.
We got several big runs against GB thats about it
But what’s informative, GB felt they had to attack to generate pressure at the LOS to stop our runs and pressure Eli.
When Eli had it really figured out, we used 3 similar plays to get a RB past the LOS and to get some big plays (I think they each led to TDs). AB before the half, BJ running it in and AB had a run to like the 5.
Eli is our King!
Of course they aren't a joke. Our point is that
the 32nd in rushing is complete crap as of this point. Our OL is healthy and finally gelling, and Bradshaw and Jacobs are both healthy. Its not like San Fran will be able to come in and sell out against the pass…they still will have to play the run. And that’s going to work in our favor.
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by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 18, 2012 10:45 AM EST up reply actions
You keep repeating the same thing..
The 49ers are not the 85 Bears buddy. I know you want the Giants to lose so bad you’d like to think they are but you better start getting used to the fact the Giants may very well win another Super Bowl this year. Two down, two to go…mission 4 Ws is 50% complete!
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by bleedblue12 on Jan 18, 2012 10:59 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
I know you want the Giants to lose so bad you’d like to think they are but you better start getting used to the fact the Giants may very well win another Super Bowl this year.
Let’s just agree that we are ALL being homers here haha. Plus, the game will come down to the battle of the trenches, not the run game
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I agree, but like I said, the Giants run game has significantly improved.
It likely won’t show up in the stats, but it will make the 49ers respect it, and that’s all it needs to do to help Eli out by slowing the pass rush just a bit.
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by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 18, 2012 11:02 AM EST up reply actions
But you can say the same thing for teh Niners. I know the Niners passing game really isn’t on par with the Giants (I still don’t know about Alex Smith), but still.
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Of course. That's the reason this game is figuratively and
literally (according to Vegas), a toss up.
Here’s the deciding factor:
Whether the difference in talent between Eli and Smith is greater than the difference in talent between the San Fran defense and the Giants defense. If it is, then we win. If it isn’t, then they win.
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by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 18, 2012 11:07 AM EST up reply actions
When it’s even, Vegas usually gives the home team the advantage. Candlestick was loud as hell when they played the Saints. They’ll only be louder. That will probably have a bigger effect on the game than the freaking weather
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Agreed. Vegas gives 3 points to the home team for that reason.
The line is San Fran -2.5, which means that on a neutral field, the Giants are favored by half a point.
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by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 18, 2012 11:15 AM EST up reply actions
You mean 2 pts.
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no .5 on neutral field
SF -2.5 home automatically lays 3. So on neutral field Giants would be -.5
The rain will dull the SF crowd and have them under cover.
Now in section 133.
by Last year in Sec 127 on Jan 18, 2012 1:01 PM EST up reply actions
All of the above...interesting to scan through...
But we’re going to be like steamrollers out there….
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If its sloppy and BJ can hold onto the rock
I think he’ll be very hard to tackle
Eli is our King!
I ain't bashing, it is a fact
Common, if you can’t take the heat…and all that jazz
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by Larry Soprano on Jan 18, 2012 10:43 AM EST up reply actions
Haha, it’s funny cause we aren’t in the playoffs. clap clap clap
Yes yes it is
Why is Tom Quinn still here? I loves me some Coach Clawfin.
But their trolls are avg 6 bans a day
I got a GIF for that!
by Fester McDougal on Jan 18, 2012 12:06 PM EST up reply actions
How am I trolling? How?
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By existing
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On the internet... now its
FACT
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Jan 18, 2012 12:21 PM EST up reply actions
Your not trolling...Trolls have a long plume of multi-color hair sticking up out of their heads...
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this is also
FACT
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Jan 18, 2012 12:25 PM EST up reply actions
Jimmy shouldn't you be a BGN
Talking about the draft?
Why is Tom Quinn still here? I loves me some Coach Clawfin.
History tells
That some 9ers fans – were trolling – think that because we throw the term " Blimp" around here at BBV that we are talking about Met Life Stadium, so some think it is an enclosed – just like the blimp – stadium! I was also LMAO when I read it! We are a dome team! We are in trouble.
Haha!!!..They don't know we have a Blimp??...LOL!!
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Awww yeah
All aboard!

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they're acting like the Giants are the Saints
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by Rorschach44 on Jan 18, 2012 10:39 AM EST up reply actions
I think Eli will be getting close
doesnt he have two miracles now?
Eli is our King!
NJ weather
The weather here was crappy yesterday and could be crappy tomorrow. I hope the Giants use the oppotnities to practice in the elements.
Also, I’m hoping the coaches are really stressing ball safety with the RBs and WRs this week. Watching the 49ers-Saints game, you could actively see the 49ers defenders holding runners up and ripping at the ball. That tactic is going to be extra-effective in the rain. Jacobs and Bradshaw will need to protect that ball with both hands when in traffic!
practicing in the elements
if i were coaching, id have them practice all week with wet balls. NO DRY BALLS at all whatsoever. Every football used in practice this week should be submerged in water before each play.
by The Blood of Eli on Jan 18, 2012 10:37 AM EST up reply actions
wet balls, dry balls, big balls, blue balls
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 18, 2012 10:38 AM EST up reply actions
Balls get wet as soon as Eli touches them.
I've never seen some many middle fingers lol I love it. - Justin Tuck
You're a beast man, I can't say that enough. - Brandon Jacobs to Eli Manning
by BigBlueWreckingYou on Jan 18, 2012 10:38 AM EST up reply actions
mine are just thinking about it
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
by Rorschach44 on Jan 18, 2012 10:40 AM EST up reply actions
Submerged in water...
spit, snot, vomit, urine, blood…
Now in section 133.
by Last year in Sec 127 on Jan 18, 2012 1:05 PM EST up reply actions
If Osi does his strip-tease act Sunday..I'll have dollar bills in hand...
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make it rain Bobbie!
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Jan 18, 2012 10:40 AM EST up reply actions
SaD
So let me see the niner fans are looking for bad weather to become an advantage, pretty sad i dont remember the last time as a Giant fan i feared an opposing team so much that i changed my weekly tebow prayer to only be replaced with my rain dance.
by Giants36 on Jan 18, 2012 10:37 AM EST via mobile reply actions
that the Giants have become such a good passing team
and they play half their games in the swamps..what does that tell you? Its not like we’re shackled up in a dome all year.
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by Rorschach44 on Jan 18, 2012 10:41 AM EST up reply actions
IT'S OVER. WE DEFINITELY DON'T HAVE A CHANCE
Based on these rainy, windy, flooding conditions, the Giants DO NOT stand a chance. Clearly, NJ never gets any of this stuff. NEVER. A team that practices in a place called “the swamp” would not know.
I hate to say it but I think it favors the 9ers
They run a very simple O that does not rely on a lot of long passes down the sidlines or down the middle of the field. Most of what they do is short intermediate stuff. From an offensive standpoint they’re not going to have to change much. Giants will be the ones that have to make adustments on O. Not only that Jacobs, Bradshaw, and Cruz are a little iffy with Ball security so I think it advantage Niners.
Both Pass rushes will be affected so I think it equalizes there.
The only area where I think it hurts them is in the FG kicking. Akers is been great for them and they rely a LOT on FGs to win this year. Not only that he kicked like two 50 plus yard FGs vs the Giants last game so in a game that might be close they might not have that luxery with rain and wind.
The only way I see it having a benefit for the GIants is Eli hit Cruz or Nicks and they make a cut and a couple of Niner d-backs loos their footing and off to the races goes our guys. If we can steal a big play or two for a TD that can be huge vs a team thats tough to score TDs on.
It's clearly over.....
so I guess the Giants are underdogs?
by uberfunction on Jan 18, 2012 10:41 AM EST up reply actions
Not saying its over
Just saying we are more of a complex team at least on O so it’ll affect what we do a bit more than what they do.
I agree, it is over

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by Fester McDougal on Jan 18, 2012 12:11 PM EST up reply actions
I assume its because
of the use of feet
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Jan 18, 2012 12:17 PM EST up reply actions
You would think he would know to block those after getting kicked in the face 3 or 4 times.
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Herschel Walker?
Now in section 133.
by Last year in Sec 127 on Jan 18, 2012 1:06 PM EST up reply actions
Landetta...I can always count on you to display your 'Worry Beads'...haha
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
As far as pass rush goes...3-4 would be affected more than a 4-3 I would think.
There’s a greater distance between the rusher and the QB, allowing for the rusher to build up speed and thereby helping them with stunts and beating the lineman. They rely on speed a little bit more, so they’ll be affected a little bit more.
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by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 18, 2012 10:48 AM EST up reply actions
My thought
It is bizarre to me to hear the Giants referred to as a passing team. This is the first time in my 25ish years as a Giants fan that I have ever hear that.
+1
We’re the more explosive team going into this game . . .. I don’t think I’ve ever heard that in my 30 years of being a Giant fan. . . It really makes me laugh. Not only that, the Niners are the tough run first team. I grew up with the Niners being the pass to set up the run. . . very very wierd.
Freaky Friday type stuff
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Jan 18, 2012 10:44 AM EST up reply actions
Yes, not surprised here
My Beloved Giants are a passing, dome team! We have become the Houston Oilers of the East. Go figure.
friggin Gilbride....
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by Rorschach44 on Jan 18, 2012 10:45 AM EST up reply actions
Haha!!!..The only 'dome' our team plays under is their helmets...
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Not yesterday
and really, It Always Smells in Philadelphia.
Husker/Giants/Mets fan living behind enemy lines.
hell yeah

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by The Always Well Dressed... on Jan 18, 2012 10:47 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
CAUSE I CUT THE BRAKES
YEEEEEE HAAA. Let’s hope the Giants don’t keep their foot off the gas.
by uberfunction on Jan 18, 2012 10:49 AM EST up reply actions
I've been cutting the Farts...
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
...to nobody's surprise
"The saddest thing in life is wasted talent"
by Larry Soprano on Jan 18, 2012 11:12 AM EST up reply actions
aaaaaaaaand rec'd
"The saddest thing in life is wasted talent"
by Larry Soprano on Jan 18, 2012 10:51 AM EST up reply actions
oops
suppose to go under the WILDCARD B-TCHES post
by uberfunction on Jan 18, 2012 10:49 AM EST up reply actions
As long as it isnt crazy windy
It wont have an impact. The field will be covered until Sunday anyway.
by Giant Ken on Jan 18, 2012 10:59 AM EST via mobile reply actions
OT but Graziano with a nice article on 'Trel
http://espn.go.com/blog/nfceast/post/_/id/35363/antrel-rolle-giants-voice-of-reason
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by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 18, 2012 11:01 AM EST reply actions
probs
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 18, 2012 11:07 AM EST up reply actions
Is the last game the Giants played on a really sloppy field
The 2007 London game? Cause I don’t think any game will ever be as messy as that one was.
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Jan 18, 2012 11:03 AM EST reply actions
Buffalo in 2007 was bad as well
heavy rain then snow
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Jan 18, 2012 11:04 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah, but the Bills have field turf
Wembley that day was just a hot mess.
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by Larry Soprano on Jan 18, 2012 11:06 AM EST up reply actions
I thought that Ralph Wilson stadium had astroturf
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Bills have field turf..
Nobody has astroturf anymore. Wembley Stadium in London was a complete mess in 07 against Miami.
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by bleedblue12 on Jan 18, 2012 11:10 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
I think they used to have it in the early 2000s
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Well...that matters
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No, they converted to Field Turf a few years back.
There aren’t any more stadiums with Astro Turf, thankfully.
I played on that for 4 years in college…I’m still amazed I came away without a knee injury.
"The saddest thing in life is wasted talent"
by Larry Soprano on Jan 18, 2012 11:10 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah, astro turf was a horrible idea.
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Yeah shortened alot of player's careers...
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Players were 27% more likely to sustain a lower extremity injury when the game was played on artificial FieldTurf instead of the real thing
More specifically, there was an 88% increased risk of an injury to the anterior cruciate ligament and a 32% increased risk of an eversion ankle sprain when playing on FieldTurf
…there were 1,105 knee sprains and 1,115 ankle sprains in 1,961 games.
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I believe it..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
The Giants must hold training camp on Astroturf
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Concrete
With some blacktop patches
Eli is our King!
yeah it was bad
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Jan 18, 2012 11:09 AM EST up reply actions
That was not an NFL field
Disaster, it looked like a HS field
by Giant Ken on Jan 18, 2012 11:09 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Chase needs to be a beast
They are going to do everything they can to protect smith.
I usually don’t preach blitzing nfl qbs, but Smith showed time and time again, that he cant recognize the blitz. We need to force Smith into 3rd and 5+!
by Giant Ken on Jan 18, 2012 11:08 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Blitz C-Web.
Now in section 133.
by Last year in Sec 127 on Jan 18, 2012 1:09 PM EST up reply actions
He's fast
see, I can learn
I got a GIF for that!
by Fester McDougal on Jan 18, 2012 1:36 PM EST up reply actions
Real true footballs players love playing in the mud and slop..
I used to love that shit…
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Ill say this....
I’ll have to wear Depends if Coughlin is going to let Blackmon field the ball…
All I think this means is that whoever can hang onto the rock more (less turnovers) wins this game….
bad conditions = more turnovers, niners lead nfl in takeaways.
bad conditions better for defense. niners lead nfl in defense.
giants lead nfl in surprises.
Shoot the puck Barry!!!
Not on Sunday...
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
i thought the giants would win 9 games this year, based on the health of the team at the start and the schedule they had. nobody thought 9 games would win the east. nobody thought they’d destroy the falcons and packers either. who knows what will happen sunday, but at this point the season has turned into a major success and surprise. i love defense and i’m hoping sunday is a hard hitting old school affair. win or lose, i’m happy.
Shoot the puck Barry!!!
Me too man..That's all you can ask for...
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Yup 9 is all we needed and for the last 4 games and two more to come we are beating the crap of teams one ant a time.

This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.
Yup You've got the formula
Giants should not even show up at Candlestick.
I think they are going to surprise us all.
And show up.
Gotta say that the Giants defense has been the most impressive of all in the playoffs...
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I dont think he makes a decision until
all the HC spots are filled
I got a GIF for that!
by Fester McDougal on Jan 18, 2012 12:14 PM EST up reply actions
He will interview some more teams before he decides. He could be waiting for superbowl to be over too in case any of the last 4 teams have coaching or assistant vacancies.
This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.
It's not even funny..
but if we win, I just hope theres not a massacre in the parking lot, 2 persons were shot last week leaving the area after the game and after a 9er win. They have to remember it’s a game, a game we love, but a game nonetheless
ELIte
by colinlovestheknicks on Jan 18, 2012 11:40 AM EST reply actions
Yeah there have has alot of that crap this year...
Sorta like Soccer games, the violence needs to stop…This is a game is all…not the end of the world..
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*there has been...geez...
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
SF NBC Forecast
Watch the video forecast on NBC Bay Area.
It does not look like rain during the game but the field will probably be wet.
Rain or Shine that field will be sloppy as usual...
I have the bay area zeroed in on my weather channel…I don’t mind the wet field..but I hope it doesn’t rain during the game…
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
It's supposed to be pouring right now...
not a cloud in the sky where I’m at.
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Stop Lying!
its not block-quoted, so its not true
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Jan 18, 2012 12:31 PM EST up reply actions
Isn't Candlestick a piece of crap to begin with?
Throw in crappy weather and it sounds like a recipe for an awful game.
Win ugly?
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where's Tito?
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Jan 18, 2012 12:22 PM EST up reply actions
???
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tito (eight and oh)
his motto from day one has been “win ugly”
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 18, 2012 12:24 PM EST up reply actions
I know that...
I meant I don’t know where he has been.
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ah
I think he ran away
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 18, 2012 12:26 PM EST up reply actions
impossible
you can't run on mud
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I just emailed him, been wondering same thing
See if we can lure him back to the fold.
Since Eli has become elite, perhaps he no longer has a cause to push.
All the Giants should play like Mark Bavaro.
TQ, DD and KMac Must Go!
TC, PF, KG, will stay but should go for the long term good.
It is equally worthless when people are always optimistic or always pessimistic. Either way I take their opinion with a pound of salt because I know they only have one setting. I post my own thoughts, not what either side wants to read.
by UnknownJintsFan on Jan 18, 2012 12:36 PM EST up reply actions
maybe he's like a messenger from above
trying to prove Eli is elite. After many years, his work here was done and returned to the Heavens
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Jan 18, 2012 12:38 PM EST up reply actions
Rubbing Eli's shoulders
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Jan 18, 2012 12:26 PM EST up reply actions
feeding him grapes
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Jan 18, 2012 12:32 PM EST up reply actions
Eli seems to like...

"The saddest thing in life is wasted talent"
by Larry Soprano on Jan 18, 2012 12:37 PM EST up reply actions
I picture him running along side an 18-wheeler...
begging for the driver to honk the horn.
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as a kid?
I did that in my 20’s still
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Jan 18, 2012 12:41 PM EST up reply actions
ha
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Jan 18, 2012 12:40 PM EST up reply actions
I like to picture Eli in a tuxedo T-Shirt because it says I want to be formal, but I'm here to party.
"The saddest thing in life is wasted talent"
by Larry Soprano on Jan 18, 2012 12:41 PM EST up reply actions
sigh, he is missed around here
His “win ugly” prediction in Aug has come true so far.
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Jan 18, 2012 12:25 PM EST up reply actions
yes it has.
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 18, 2012 12:26 PM EST up reply actions
It will look like a 1950-1960s game. Muddy jerseys, grass stains and muddy faces.
Picking the righ kind of cleats will be key. One slip by a WR or DB could swing the game either way. Did someone say “sneaker game”?
We are all going want the 6 days of our lives back when it doesn't rain on Sunday.
What an incredible waste of time and electrons.
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Mud does offer interesting defensive schemes however

I got a GIF for that!
by Fester McDougal on Jan 18, 2012 12:30 PM EST reply actions
Hahaha!!!!
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
that's great
"The saddest thing in life is wasted talent"
by Larry Soprano on Jan 18, 2012 12:37 PM EST up reply actions
I just got off the phone with 'Papa Smurf'...asked him what the field will be like...
He said: “It’ll be a BLUE Smok’in nightmare for those red and gold trolls…”
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
lower case ny > mud
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seems about right
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Jan 18, 2012 12:42 PM EST up reply actions
yup

"The saddest thing in life is wasted talent"
by Larry Soprano on Jan 18, 2012 12:42 PM EST up reply actions
Question...If mud will make controlling the LOS much harder to do then why is it the Giants that will suffer because of this?
Why won’t the mud affect SF as well? Plus, the Giants haven’t controlled a LOS this season…EVER…and they are playing in this game anyway.
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They are good in mud..They'll be eating it Sunday...
We’re serving up a buffet for them on Sunday…
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
I don't understand... listening to the radio now
And because fans and the team are confident about this game, how does it automatically become “the Giants are sleeping on the 9ers and their defense”?
Also, I love how people are now discrediting the win against the Packers… Giants only one because of “a lucky hail mary” and “fumbles bounced in the Giants favor”. Gezzz, bitter much?
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Jan 18, 2012 12:52 PM EST reply actions
You must be listening to 1060 bullshit AM...
And remember..the Packers beat themselves..Our team just stood there and watched…
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
The Packers have another 7 months to "beat themselves"...
they better get used to it.
nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!
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I have a bad feeling about this weekend...
I didn’t feel this way before either the Atlanta or GB game.
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This is true!
Please, be available to talk me down off the ledge until Sunday.
nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!
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Me too..I had a nightmare that my beer will run out...
“Aaaah!!”…“What’s the matter, honey?”..“Oh just a bad dream, is all..though it was Sunday and I ran out of beer…”…“Oh, now you know that won’t ever happen !!!”
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
I feel the same way I felt before
the Jet, Cowboy, Falcon and Packer games…. nervous but condifent
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Jan 18, 2012 1:05 PM EST up reply actions
This is why I hate feelings!
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Feelings.....
nothing more then feelings
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Jan 18, 2012 1:10 PM EST up reply actions
For some reason this is the game i am the most confident about.
This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.
The rain will help the home team
As a general rule. It will help the team with the better running back and offensive line.
San Fran will likely get a chance to monitor the field conditions and prepare accordingly.
Though really it won’t make much of a difference. Keep in mind, 4 days is an eternity when predicting the weather.
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by pataroons on Jan 18, 2012 1:07 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Aaah, that's baloney...We'll be out there..pick out the right cleats..and then proceed to some ass-kicking..
Better running back?..When our ‘D’ is firing on all eight cylinders..They knock out RBs…Wait ’til they get a load of our load..265 lbs of pure pain…
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
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nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!
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I didnt say San Fran had a better running back
I said as a general rule it helps the team with the better running back (whoever that may be).
Uh oh, Bobbie- losing faith in your team?! Gonna pick the Niners with Ed? Lol
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by pataroons on Jan 18, 2012 1:22 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Hahaha!!!..You know better than that pataroons..LOL!!!
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
I heard the..
Eagles, Dallas, Jets, Packers and Saints will be meeting each week for group therapy sessions….
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Falcons weren't invited?
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by pataroons on Jan 18, 2012 1:19 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
They were...
They just didn’t show up!
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They migrated further South...
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
From the experience we had with the Falcons here they already had (the) class.
This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.
I think
It definitely favors the Niners. But I still think we’ll get the job done. Giants 24, Niners 20
Weather means nothing, field conditions mean nothing
These effect both teams…Champions adapt, overcome and excel when conditions are less than optimum. I just think the Giants are a mentally tough team and have enough playoff experience to set the conditions aside and do what is necessary to win. Play tough, keep mistakes and TOs to a minimum and get better in Q4 while the opponent crumbles is the formula to victory.
Watch Heartbreak Ridge and learn how to persevere.
I got a GIF for that!
by Fester McDougal on Jan 18, 2012 1:35 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
One hell of a comment right here...
And Heartbreak Ridge is one of my favorite movies…Took a bunch of blubbering recruits and turned them into soldiers…The Giants took a bunch of young rookies..and turned them into football players..Losing is not an option..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
That's a great movie
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Jan 18, 2012 2:12 PM EST up reply actions
In the struggle between the river and the rock
the river wins, because it perseveres.
Maybe rain = more Vernon Davis wich = more Jacquian Williams and not M.Kiwanuka.
Maybe Take some snaps from D.Tollefson & play Kiwanuka at d-line more?
by big blue born in philly on Jan 18, 2012 2:13 PM EST reply actions
Not the mud that worries me
It’s the wind. As the better long passing team that uses that to spread the field on opposing defenses, if the Gmen have to go to a shorter passing attack that will favor the Niner D. Niners are more of a short and underneath passing attack and it might not bother them as much. But if the mud means it slows down both D lines, then maybe we don’t have to worry about Eli and the O line getting steamrolled. That is my one concern. Their speed on the D line is not something the Giants O line typically handles very well.
Go Giants!
Giants also do short passes that turn into huge YAC TDs.
Cruz and Nicks are good for those and MM is very fast to get open.
This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.
This is how they will fight for the seats

This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.
Frisco thing.
You would not understand.
by Mindless on Jan 18, 2012 7:46 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
We can't ignore this.
The girl man with the yellow shirt has GOT to put more clothes on.
Telling the stories of Big Blue since 1996.
by BigBlueStory on Jan 18, 2012 11:48 PM EST up reply actions
Isn’t the field covered now & all the way through Sunday? Don Shula once removed the covers in 1982 to give the fins an advantage over the Jets in the “mudbowl”. This field will be fine on Sunday—little slower but nothing major.
by KLECKOtoCANTON on Jan 18, 2012 11:59 PM EST reply actions

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