League Explains Ruling On Jennings' Fumble/Non-Fumble
Nice job here by the NFL defending referee Bill Leavy. They still didn't explain, however, he could so obviously get this wrong. Thankfully it ended up not mattering.
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YO NFL
Im really happy for you and ima let you finish but the Tuck rule was the worst cop out of all time….
As the article says...Circling the wagons....
Keep moving,,,Nothing to see here
I got a GIF for that!
by Fester McDougal on Jan 16, 2012 5:10 PM EST reply actions
It doesn't matter what the Refs say or do.
In the end the ball doesn’t lie.
I've never seen some many middle fingers lol I love it. - Justin Tuck
You're a beast man, I can't say that enough. - Brandon Jacobs to Eli Manning
by BigBlueWreckingYou on Jan 16, 2012 5:10 PM EST reply actions
what a scam outfit
the guy fumbled before any part of his body hit the ground. the replay showed that.
the OSi roughing call was a joke and Ware made the first down but was marked back at least 3 feet.
the whole idea about losing your challenges I assume affected Coughlin not challenging that terrbile mark.
BTW Eli was battered late at least 2 times blatantly…..
overall the officiating was a F….Plain and simple. Goodel is a total hack….
the ware play
Wasn’t that inside of the 2 minute warning? So it would be up to the ref upstairs to review the play.
one more thing
even if TC won the challenge on the Ware play, since he had lost the fumble challenge the Giants would have been out of challenges. That is pretty early in the game to have no challenges left, especially considering how bad the officials were calling the game.
no it was the 3rd qtr
ur thinking hakeem nicks last week
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Who you gonna believe?
The NFL or your lying eyes?
Why not tell us which official ruled him down in the first place? Because the side judge who is closest clearly thinks it’s a fumble.
Blue is the color of melancholy and honesty
Green is the color of inexperience, envy and nausea.
well, according to packers fans questioning bad calls is just whining
so, today in green bay they wake up to find that the entire country is whiners.
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by Shoes31 on Jan 10, 2012
FACT
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Jan 16, 2012 5:50 PM EST up reply actions
lol
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
Giant LB'zz SUCK!! Mark Herzlich, Jacquian Williams,...Maybe .. Sadly this has been modified.
both of youse guys was like half apologizing for my presence wasnt ya?
I was drunk, memory is fuzzy
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by Shoes31 on Jan 10, 2012
by Simms-McConkey on Jan 16, 2012 10:46 PM EST up reply actions
Sooo
any explanation on the roughing the passer penalty on Osi?
I mean, other than the obvious.
Takeaway from the Osi flag...
Just kill the other teams QB. You are going to get flagged either way. Might as well lead with your helmet and drive him into the ground. Then wave Tuck over for a spear.
Will lightning really strike twice?
I was event that upset at the roughing call
because: 1) I was pretty sure we would win at that point anyways
2) Osi got a really good shot at Rodgers, and thats not a bad thing
Ryan Miller was the true MVP. See my profile for rant.
Tuck should have came in and helped hit him too....
they could have been the human Oreo Cookie!!!!! haha If we gonna get flagged at least get flagged for something good!!
by bdasilva7785 on Jan 16, 2012 6:01 PM EST up reply actions
Tuck did

"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning
These aren't the droids you're looking for...
"The saddest thing in life is wasted talent"
by Larry Soprano on Jan 16, 2012 5:18 PM EST reply actions 4 recs
It was crap
and it still is, especially because the original call on the field was a fumble. And I don’t buy the nonsense they were talking about “its the referee’s interpretation of what he saw”. If I said the sky was red, I don’t have a different interpretation of the color of the sky, I’m just incorrect and a jackass.
NFL Front Office
What do you want them to say.
“Well, Leavy is a dumbass, but we couldn’t find any other officials that wanted to go to Green Bay in January”
yes
followed by
Mr Leavy is no longer employed by the NFL. We wish him the best in his future endeavors.
You down wit JPP?
I got 99 problems but a Vick ain't one!
as the Crypt Keeper
"We borrowed golf from the Scottish as we borrowed whiskey. Not because it is Scottish, but because it is good." Horace Hutchinson
No more score predictions...
admit is was a bad call
Jacobs to Eli: You're a beast, man. I can't tell you that enough!
once again
i believe ya
"I like prime rib, and I'd love to win a Super Bowl" -Andy Reid
"11 guys playing as 1 are HARD to beat" -Justin Tuck
One of the worst calls I've ever seen
Makes the league look really bad when a ref blatantly blows a call like this. How does this guy still get playoff games?
Unbelievable pile of steaming crap
So basically rather than admit a mistake you will compound his call by LIEING.
Based upon this interpretation Ballard was definitely down in the first game. His calf was clearly touching the end zone.
This reeks of Tim Donaghy….
Will lightning really strike twice?
Totally agree
We’ve seen game officials involved with Betting Scandals in Basketball and Soccer. Would it be shocking to see them in the most bet sport in the league? How bout favoring the team that was the sharp favorite…Of course I can’t prove it, but you at least need to make the refs come out and explain themselves…Perrira used to go on Mike and Mike, but now its basically silence from the NFL.
It was obvious that the player was losing control of the ball
before any part of his body touched the groung.
What an explanation, using rules from their Rule Book.
Didn’t explain anything.
Even their own boss said they blew the call, and anyone who knows anything about football KNOWS that this call was blown.
This was a fumble, and continues to prove (to me) that certain teams get ‘help’ from the zebras.
Quit playing not to lose. Start playing to WIN! Geeez...
Off topic, but beat writer Ebenezer Samuel tweet of the year during the game
Fact: Every week, press box folks say that you shouldn’t cheer in the box. Fact: Giants press people ALWAYS cheer.
I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.
by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 16, 2012 5:39 PM EST reply actions
hahaha
I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.
by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 16, 2012 8:01 PM EST up reply actions
Explanation is great and all
but it doesn’t translate to the play in question.
Had his calf been down, I would except this, however it was not.
Had there not been sufficient video evidence to overturn the call, I would except this, however, there was.
So what exactly was the point in releasing this info? Do they think the tape of this play magically disappeared and we can’t look at it?
I was taught at a young age that when i messed up, own up to it. These clowns should do the same.
You down wit JPP?
I got 99 problems but a Vick ain't one!
It's a subliminal translation
If your going against the so-called favorites of the world, the rules change. One example is that the ref redefine the human anatomy and included the calf as an extension of the knee?!!! Then again, the ref may be a part-time proctologist?
Shorter NFL
These bozos had no idea WTF just happened, so they decided since they’d made GB waste a challenge already, it was the Giants turn. Even after watching the tape they still couldn’t find their ass with both hands, so it is what it is….
Blue is the color of melancholy and honesty
Green is the color of inexperience, envy and nausea.
+1
this is exactly what i was thinking when it happened. but they had to overturn it after they saw what happened
I don't hate the guy, but if I saw him, I wouldn't take him out to dinner."--Amani Toomer on Trey Junkin
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You can't spell Elite without ELI.
I still call b*llshit buy the NFL
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Jan 16, 2012 5:46 PM EST reply actions
eff you if you think I'm going to "buy the nfl" after this travesty.
Pirated apparel all teh wayz.
I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.
by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 16, 2012 5:49 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
lol damn fast typing
by*****
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Jan 16, 2012 5:53 PM EST up reply actions
too late, its on the internet
I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.
by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 16, 2012 5:53 PM EST up reply actions
sigh
like piss in a pool
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Jan 16, 2012 5:54 PM EST up reply actions
damn facts
nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!
Just ordered FatHeads for all available Giants. Now I have something to aim at when punching holes in my wall.
its the way of life
especially in these last days on Earth… Dec 2012
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Jan 16, 2012 6:29 PM EST up reply actions
I'm definitely standing next to Tebow whn that day comes.
nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!
Just ordered FatHeads for all available Giants. Now I have something to aim at when punching holes in my wall.
I'm also hoping I learn how to spell by then
nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!
Just ordered FatHeads for all available Giants. Now I have something to aim at when punching holes in my wall.
for your sake
I hope you do
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Jan 16, 2012 7:17 PM EST up reply actions
I'm glad I have your support
nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!
Just ordered FatHeads for all available Giants. Now I have something to aim at when punching holes in my wall.
it wouldn't bother me that much
But this is the second straight meeting between these teams where it felt like the Giants were playing against the Packers and the officiating crew.
You down wit JPP?
I got 99 problems but a Vick ain't one!
Right...and the Giants are now 1 and 1 against the Packers/refs
nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!
Just ordered FatHeads for all available Giants. Now I have something to aim at when punching holes in my wall.
Guys, guys, guys
And gals. It WASNT just that one call!!! Osi hit? The Saints getting ZERO penalties against 9ers???? Horseshit!!!! And this crap of favoring GB, Saints, and Pats will go on until they are sent a petition boycotting NFL merchandise until it gets cleaned up. The media is BUZZING with the bad (biased) officiating. You KNOW the former players are all retching watching that.
by BigBlue9091 on Jan 16, 2012 5:51 PM EST via mobile reply actions
not just the media....athletes all over twitter. Lots of Bears, Vikings, and Lions players in particular....wonder why lol
I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.
by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 16, 2012 5:53 PM EST up reply actions
Matthews hit Eli late a couple different times
including once where he lowered his head and hit him with the crown of his helmet. That one I was very surprised didn’t draw a call.
by Oppenheimer919 on Jan 16, 2012 5:55 PM EST up reply actions
Yes...
Alex Smith got smashed a few times and no flags were thrown. One helmet to helmet hit caused a fumble that NO recovered.
nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!
Just ordered FatHeads for all available Giants. Now I have something to aim at when punching holes in my wall.
complete BS
I know the rule. I know the calf touching is down by contact. The calf clearly wasn’t down prior to losing the ball.
Jacobs to Eli: You're a beast, man. I can't tell you that enough!
No, you are what those NFL douche catamarans deem as a non-intelligent being that should only be considered as a cash cow.
aka, a fan.
I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.
by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 16, 2012 5:55 PM EST up reply actions
we needa restraining order on that guy
I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.
by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 16, 2012 5:57 PM EST up reply actions
I think his crew is doing the Giants/49ers game
If at first you don’t succeed, try, try, again
or we’ll break both your legs
no
they arent allowed to do 2 weeks in a row during the playoffs
I don't hate the guy, but if I saw him, I wouldn't take him out to dinner."--Amani Toomer on Trey Junkin
Talk is Cheap! Play the Game!
You can't spell Elite without ELI.
Soon we'll be seeing ads run by the NFL's Super-PAC ... Gridiron TV Ratings ...
lauding the refs as “serial momentum killers” for unpopular franchises in big games.
They'd have been better off saying nothing
This just means that it was an atrocious call because his calf wasn’t down
And Perrieira said as much, who are they fooling?
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
Football - It's Beyond an Addiction, It's a Way of Life.
by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16
as a prison warden said ocne
“You couldn’t even win a fixed game”
Stinking cheaters.
World Series attitude, champagne bottle life, nothing every changes so tonight is like tomorrow night.
Complete and Utter BS
I just watched the replay. The play should have never been changed on the field. The original call was a fumble. One official changed the call ruling it was down by contact. Then why didn’t the ref blow his whistle? If you rule a player tackled you blow the whistle. No whistle was blown.
Jacobs to Eli: You're a beast, man. I can't tell you that enough!
exactly...
not sure who was the player who picked the fumble up but what happens if he is tackled and breaks a leg or an arm going down on that play?
by bdasilva7785 on Jan 16, 2012 6:14 PM EST up reply actions
KP picked up the fumble
Jacobs to Eli: You're a beast, man. I can't tell you that enough!
OK...
So what happens if he got hurt getting tackled on a play that apparently was dead but wasn’t blown dead? Then what does the NFL do?
by bdasilva7785 on Jan 16, 2012 6:19 PM EST up reply actions
I'm not a conspiracy guy
I also rarely blame the refs. In this case I’m convinced an official changed the ruling on the field because GB already challenged a call and won. If they lose this challenge they’re out of challenges for the rest of the game.
Jacobs to Eli: You're a beast, man. I can't tell you that enough!
The Refs did a Lambeau Leap!
I try not to blame the refs too… but when they scored the Touchdown by Kuhn… I am pretty sure I saw 4 Refs jump into the Stands also.
That told me something was rotten.
:)
by ross_stephen on Jan 16, 2012 6:27 PM EST up reply actions
yuppers
I don't hate the guy, but if I saw him, I wouldn't take him out to dinner."--Amani Toomer on Trey Junkin
Talk is Cheap! Play the Game!
You can't spell Elite without ELI.
That's what makes the NFL's explanation complete crap.
They need to address that the refs overturned their own call during a commercial so the Giants had to challenge. If it was questionable then they should have let the Packers challenge the original ruling on the field. They basically replayed the play and changed the call on their own.
nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!
Just ordered FatHeads for all available Giants. Now I have something to aim at when punching holes in my wall.
Eli would throw to high and hit him in the Chest...
unless the official is Plax’s height haha
by bdasilva7785 on Jan 16, 2012 6:20 PM EST up reply actions
???
Eli’s had pinpoint accuracy this season.
…Which would be needed for that play.
Sorry...
Didn’t have the sarcasm text on it… I am one of Eli’s biggest supporters since day one when he was drafted. Just trying to show you guys how far we have actually come with a typical BBV post from the past!!! lol
by bdasilva7785 on Jan 16, 2012 6:23 PM EST up reply actions
The Packers are pretty soft
Finley cited a Giants defense — playing with a palpable sense of urgency — for disrupting the Packers’ rhythm and never letting up. “(Defensive end Jason) Pierre-Paul was pushing me — and our offense is timing,” Finley said. “Then he’d go rush. I’d say a dozen times. I got pushed on the ground two or three times.”
“JPP was pushing me.” Haha
Team Ghost: Manningham, Sintim, Beckum, Barden, JPP, Anvil, Ross
"But even if they do that [win the NFC East], once they get into the playoffs, they're going to see teams such as the Saints and the Packers and the 49ers, who started them on their current losing streak. And when they come up against teams like that, they're not going to have enough to hang with them, and there's not going to be anything they can do. " -- Dan Graziano
To be fair...
I think JPP has put half the team on IR by bumping into them.
Team Ghost: Manningham, Sintim, Beckum, Barden, JPP, Anvil, Ross
"But even if they do that [win the NFC East], once they get into the playoffs, they're going to see teams such as the Saints and the Packers and the 49ers, who started them on their current losing streak. And when they come up against teams like that, they're not going to have enough to hang with them, and there's not going to be anything they can do. " -- Dan Graziano
by GhostDini on Jan 16, 2012 6:19 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
sadness rec
I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.
by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 16, 2012 8:16 PM EST up reply actions
thats the best 'bad' rec ever
I don't hate the guy, but if I saw him, I wouldn't take him out to dinner."--Amani Toomer on Trey Junkin
Talk is Cheap! Play the Game!
You can't spell Elite without ELI.
the Giants were HITTING on Sunday
Jennings had enough and just gave up and went to the locker room at the end there
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
not like the 9ers
pierre thomas got knocked the fuck out!
If some of your members are going to troll us on our forum, don’t expect [us] to hold themselves to a higher standard. If you don’t like what we are saying, its not your forum to go ahead and correct us as a guest.
by Shoes31 on Jan 10, 2012
by Simms-McConkey on Jan 16, 2012 10:50 PM EST up reply actions
That is so funny
“He kept pushing me.” LOL
"We borrowed golf from the Scottish as we borrowed whiskey. Not because it is Scottish, but because it is good." Horace Hutchinson
No more score predictions...
exactly what I was thinking. :-)
"We borrowed golf from the Scottish as we borrowed whiskey. Not because it is Scottish, but because it is good." Horace Hutchinson
No more score predictions...
To be honest
That probably explains why JPP wasn’t around the qb all that much. He’s usually beating around the backfield but if he stayed in the line a little bit more to slow Finley down I’m all for it. Hopefully we do the same thing against Vernon Davis.
Strikeouts are boring- Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.
by CasanovaWong on Jan 16, 2012 11:25 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
and here i thought JPP was the one getting raped/held all game
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
Giant LB'zz SUCK!! Mark Herzlich, Jacquian Williams,...Maybe .. Sadly this has been modified.
great scheme
u cant let a guy like finley get off the line scott free. u need to bump him at the line & disrupt their timing, so y not do that with a d-end so the LB can get in position quicker
I don't hate the guy, but if I saw him, I wouldn't take him out to dinner."--Amani Toomer on Trey Junkin
Talk is Cheap! Play the Game!
You can't spell Elite without ELI.
I bet Finley was chipping him
But JPP is a Manster, you bump him, but it’s like hitting a wall
Defense is much more coordinated now, they are taking advantage of each others strengths. A bump off JPP, a chuck from Boley, it gets hard to get on route
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
Football - It's Beyond an Addiction, It's a Way of Life.
by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16
"Stop pushing me! Mom, he's pushing me!"
"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning
And JPP spent all day complaining about being held...
and I think there were at least 3-4 holds on him alone.
It's not holding if it's the Packers
nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!
Just ordered FatHeads for all available Giants. Now I have something to aim at when punching holes in my wall.
But but but...
is that really how it works what section and rule is that in the NFL rulebook?
by bdasilva7785 on Jan 16, 2012 6:24 PM EST up reply actions
When they did finally call a hold against GB.....
The entire bar I was in were all laughing so hard!!! “OMG!!! A Holding call in Lambeau? WOW!!!”
by ross_stephen on Jan 16, 2012 6:25 PM EST up reply actions
Now I want to hear the NFL to explain.....
…how someone’s calf can touch the ground, while their knee is still several inches above the ground and NOT sustain a substantial injury.
simple explanation
Gumbi
Jacobs to Eli: You're a beast, man. I can't tell you that enough!
You mean like Joe Theisman
Blue is the color of melancholy and honesty
Green is the color of inexperience, envy and nausea.
See...
See what a great guy LT really was? He was trying to help Joe out. Making sure that, if he ever ran the wildcat, and went out wide, caught a pass, got smacked, and lost the ball, that his calf would touch the ground even though his knee was 5 inches above the ground.
One more reason to love LT.
You can keep your Big Ben, Rivers, Brady, Brees, Rodgers, and anyone else, just give me Eli, and I'd bet on the Giants every time!
by King_of_Utah on Jan 17, 2012 11:17 AM EST up reply actions
Crap I forgot to put that this kids name is Greg Jennings!!!!!
by bdasilva7785 on Jan 16, 2012 6:30 PM EST up reply actions
Its pretty scary...
…how quickly you came up with that picture…I am not sure I want to know how or why.
Wow
Greg’s mom is gonna be pissed at you for stealing his childhood pictures.
But, in light of this evidence, I’ll be a sumbitch, it really wasn’t a fumble!
It’s a damn good thing the same crew wont be in San Fran.
You can keep your Big Ben, Rivers, Brady, Brees, Rodgers, and anyone else, just give me Eli, and I'd bet on the Giants every time!
by King_of_Utah on Jan 17, 2012 11:19 AM EST up reply actions
What's just as bad
is that they changed the call on the field, probably because they heard the crowd react negatively to the replay (as they always do, no matter what they see), as you could hear right before FOX cut to a commercial, and they were worried that they would force McCarthy to use his second challenge in the first quarter.
lol
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Jan 16, 2012 6:53 PM EST up reply actions
That was the shit
Coughlin was like…WTF?
nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!
Just ordered FatHeads for all available Giants. Now I have something to aim at when punching holes in my wall.
outstanding!
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
Giant LB'zz SUCK!! Mark Herzlich, Jacquian Williams,...Maybe .. Sadly this has been modified.
This was great
From the comments on the NFL statement:
we know Bil Leavey is a horrible official, you know Bill Leavey is a horrible official, the world knows our officials in general have been horrible all year(or over the course of the last several years) bur Leavey will likely be doing another Super Bowl and we want you to think his obvious incompetence was, in fact, supreme competence in regards to rule interpretation
In other words, the NFL is lying. The emperor really does have clothes. Not.
It is like when politicians protest too much about being innocent. How do you know they are lying? Their mouths are moving.
All the Giants should play like Mark Bavaro.
TQ, DD and KMac Must Go!
TC, PF, KG, will stay but should go for the long term good.
It is equally worthless when people are always optimistic or always pessimistic. Either way I take their opinion with a pound of salt because I know they only have one setting. I post my own thoughts, not what either side wants to read.
by UnknownJintsFan on Jan 16, 2012 6:51 PM EST reply actions
Eli looks so funny when he does this TD celebration
He looks like a kid when his arms are up like this.

Team Ghost: Manningham, Sintim, Beckum, Barden, JPP, Anvil, Ross
"But even if they do that [win the NFC East], once they get into the playoffs, they're going to see teams such as the Saints and the Packers and the 49ers, who started them on their current losing streak. And when they come up against teams like that, they're not going to have enough to hang with them, and there's not going to be anything they can do. " -- Dan Graziano
by GhostDini on Jan 16, 2012 7:02 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
That's a classic domination pose
Just like hands on hips and feet spread shoulder width
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
Football - It's Beyond an Addiction, It's a Way of Life.
by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16
And the lower ball a-swingin'
A Giants fan deep in Iggles territory.
conversely
did anyone see A-Rodge throw a bit of a hissy fit when he missed Jenning on a slant? He threw his arms down like a child throwiung a tantrum.
I don't hate the guy, but if I saw him, I wouldn't take him out to dinner."--Amani Toomer on Trey Junkin
Talk is Cheap! Play the Game!
You can't spell Elite without ELI.
totally
If some of your members are going to troll us on our forum, don’t expect [us] to hold themselves to a higher standard. If you don’t like what we are saying, its not your forum to go ahead and correct us as a guest.
by Shoes31 on Jan 10, 2012
by Simms-McConkey on Jan 16, 2012 11:49 PM EST up reply actions
Eh I wouldn't pick on him for that
I can understand letting your frustrations becoming demonstrative gestures, especially when you are competitive.
I mean, flipping the bird at some clown (trying to keep language clean) who cut you off in traffic really isn’t that much different
by TempusSpatium on Jan 17, 2012 12:30 AM EST up reply actions
And throwing your hands down and making yourself smaller is a classic submission posture
Over the last 4-5 games, the Giants body language has changed dramatically, in a good way. That doesn’t make you win, but when you see it, means the guys on field are feeling confident, that’s a good thing
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
Football - It's Beyond an Addiction, It's a Way of Life.
by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16
HEY GUYS!!!!
Sorry I wasn’t around here yesterday joining in on the fun. But I LOVE IT LIKE YOU CAN’T KNOW that the whole world vindicated me yesterday. Another game, another game where the refs were screwing the Giants. Except this time, even non-Giants fans agreed with it. I LOVE being right about the refs. LOVE IT!! LOL.
Anyone worried...
that if it’s us vs the Pats in the SB the lead official will be Walt Coleman??
After this game, and this season,
I’m thinking way too much about what crew will do Giants games.
The officiating this year is so bad, the worst I can remember. It hurts the credibility of the league. If we had lost….. smh
"We borrowed golf from the Scottish as we borrowed whiskey. Not because it is Scottish, but because it is good." Horace Hutchinson
No more score predictions...
I actually don't want to see the Pats in the Super Bowl because...
The storybook narrative would have to Pats winning and avenging their losses to us in SB42 and during the regular season this year.
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Also..
the NFL would love nothing more than to have Brady get his 4th ring so the Montana comparisons can come out again. Even though Montana was about 1000x more responsible for SF winning than Brady was for NE winning.
by sexyscottish on Jan 16, 2012 8:52 PM EST up reply actions
after we beat the Packers and the refs
I’m not worried about it.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
Did you guys see that Boley guaranteed a win on ESPN?
He went on SportsCenter and Mike and Mike talked about JPP’s “guarantee” and asked if he would do the same.
He said they were going to win period. He said it’s what is going to happen.
I don’t know whether to like the confidence and bravado or to be mortally terrified by it.
MarShon Brooks has the dreaded.
"I’m anxious to see if they make the same mistake twice." - Shaq talking about the Magic.
So, be mortally confident about it.
I’m a problem solver!!
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by nywins42 on Jan 16, 2012 8:10 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
my bad
that was supposed to be a rec. thought it was funny
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I don't like this quote from Cruz
“Just how we played against New Orleans and how we played against San Fran, definitely, it works out in our favor a little bit,” Cruz said when asked about facing the Niners as opposed to the Saints. “That we are able to get San Fran as opposed to New Orleans just because of how we feel about (the 49ers) and we understand that we have a good chance of winning that game. We felt like we had a chance to win. We understood that if we saw them again, it could potentially be a different outcome and we wanted that opportunity.”
Cruz should’ve said that the Giants would feel confident against any opponent; it doesn’t matter who it is. Harbaugh gets to tell his team that the Giants think the 49ers are a weaker team than the Saints, which they just beat. He gets to tell them that the Giants probably think this is going to be a cupcake game. Cruz’s comments are gas to the flame.
Team Ghost: Manningham, Sintim, Beckum, Barden, JPP, Anvil, Ross
"But even if they do that [win the NFC East], once they get into the playoffs, they're going to see teams such as the Saints and the Packers and the 49ers, who started them on their current losing streak. And when they come up against teams like that, they're not going to have enough to hang with them, and there's not going to be anything they can do. " -- Dan Graziano
Rolle said it much better
“I could care less about how hostile it is,” Rolle said. “When you’re at home, you want to bring ‘em to their feet. When you’re away, you want to bring ’em to their knees.”
“It doesn’t matter who we play,” he added. “At this point, the way we are playing ball, if we go out there and take care of things during the week, it doesn’t matter who you put in front of us. You put an all-star team in front of us, we are going to go out there and be the best that we can be on that Sunday.”
His comments show that he’s confident but he doesn’t disrespect the 49ers in the process.
Team Ghost: Manningham, Sintim, Beckum, Barden, JPP, Anvil, Ross
"But even if they do that [win the NFC East], once they get into the playoffs, they're going to see teams such as the Saints and the Packers and the 49ers, who started them on their current losing streak. And when they come up against teams like that, they're not going to have enough to hang with them, and there's not going to be anything they can do. " -- Dan Graziano
by GhostDini on Jan 16, 2012 8:05 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Its the conf championship
At this point bulliten board material is what it is. And the play on the field is what matters. if any one heard tucks interview on the fan friday, he flat out said our team is rootin for san fran to win that game. And for anyone who thinks the niners werent hoping the Giants won your’e insane. If you look at some of there comments im sure theres been more said as opposed to cruz.
by Giants36 on Jan 16, 2012 8:09 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
+100000000000000000000000000
bulletin board material is overrated. It gives the media something to discuss.
Jacobs to Eli: You're a beast, man. I can't tell you that enough!
I agree
But everyone knows what happened to us in the Dome, last two, three times.
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
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by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16
well
they also get to play another home game
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I heard Donte Whitner say that because it's a home game
Team Ghost: Manningham, Sintim, Beckum, Barden, JPP, Anvil, Ross
"But even if they do that [win the NFC East], once they get into the playoffs, they're going to see teams such as the Saints and the Packers and the 49ers, who started them on their current losing streak. And when they come up against teams like that, they're not going to have enough to hang with them, and there's not going to be anything they can do. " -- Dan Graziano
like we didnt prefer the 49ers tot he saints
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by Shoes31 on Jan 10, 2012
by Simms-McConkey on Jan 17, 2012 12:28 AM EST up reply actions
Ehh
The way the Gmen are playing idc who the officials are were beatrn these teams so badly that if its not the refs giving them 14 pts it was eli spotting them 2 pts. Either way i feel this team isn’t stopping and will finiah the way we only could have prayed to tebow for “Sb 46 champs”.
by Giants36 on Jan 16, 2012 8:04 PM EST via mobile reply actions
So, Dennis Green says...
The field will be sloppy so the Giants defense will be hampered but the 9ers defense won’t be and Gore won’t b effected. What?
Also, he doesn’t think the Giants can win because “they’ve been playing a lot of games” – WTF? They have been in playoff mode for the past four games so he thinks that will hurt them.
Those are two of the stupidest things I’ve ever heard.
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Hes an idiot
He also called the niners the vikings by mistake. The dude don’t know to much about football after stating those world class comments.
by Giants36 on Jan 16, 2012 8:11 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
denny green is sort of a joke
how would you feel if they announced he was the next coach of the Giants?
disgusted.
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by Shoes31 on Jan 10, 2012
by Simms-McConkey on Jan 16, 2012 10:55 PM EST up reply actions
I'm disgusted just from reading that question.
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the packers are who we THOUGHT THEY WERE
never mind, we wouldn’t have won the division if Green was our coach
FIRE CLAWFIN
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by Shoes31 on Jan 10, 2012
by Simms-McConkey on Jan 16, 2012 11:49 PM EST up reply actions
He also said
They are who we thought they were
Clearly public speech isn’t his long suit
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
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by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16
they let them off the hook
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Jan 16, 2012 8:41 PM EST up reply actions
haha
the way those statements go together from different people across the internet it just priceless. Its like a secret handshake for football fans:
“They are who we thought they were?”
“We let them off the hook!”
by Oppenheimer919 on Jan 16, 2012 9:31 PM EST up reply actions
what?
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Jan 16, 2012 8:40 PM EST up reply actions
I have absolutely no idea
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Doesn't Green have a UFL team to go coach or something?
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Jan 16, 2012 10:05 PM EST up reply actions
Sac Mountain Lions...REPRESENT!!

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Go Harvard Colonials
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Jan 16, 2012 11:01 PM EST up reply actions
Red face test
I want someone from the NFL on camera defending this call, while a non-moron reviews the video in slow motion. Did Leavy actually see the same video that I have on DVR? If not, why not? If so, how can anyone say it was the correct call without a red face?
The Osi call was crap, but it wasn’t reviewed; snap judgments can be wrong. If you’ve ever refereed you know what I mean. Last GB game, the Ballard TD was 50/50, as was Driver stepping out of bounds before his “TD” catch. But this kind of error should not happen on a reviewed play.
BTW, I know this is the current rule but it seems that the burden of proof for overturning a call shouldn’t be as great if there was disagreement among the field refs on the correct call. Instead of “incontrovertible visual evidence” it should be something less. Maybe the competition committee needs to add a “Leavy” rule next year…
non-moron?
So, I guess we don’t have to look for a judge in Philly.
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Someone please fix Nicks!
He says they are 60 minutes away from a dream! Wrong…you are 60 minutes away from playing in the Super Bowl but 120 minutes away from a dream.
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Even with those giant ass hands
they still only go to ten. Gotta cut some slack on the math…
by Oppenheimer919 on Jan 16, 2012 9:33 PM EST up reply actions
HA...good point.
I’ll pump my brakes.
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As I keep saying almost everyday, they don't want the Giants at the party
How else do you explain the two glaring misses by the refs in the Falcons game. The terrible spot and missing that they had 12 men in the huddle. TC had to tell them there were 12 men in the huddle. Then a fumble that’s called a fumble by a ref that saw when it happened only to be ruled not a fumble by a ref on the other side of the field, then to make matters worse they reviewed it and still got it wrong. Now they feeling the heat because everyone is suspicious
"Bummer"
Would love to get this injustice evened out:
http://articles.sfgate.com/2003-01-07/sports/17475281_1_general-manager-ernie-accorsi-49ers-great-escape
I’m not aware of another playoff game in NFL history where the league apologized for missing missing a game deciding call. Don’t know why this isn’t being brought up now. Note that the guy doing the apologizing was the same Pereira that said Leavy blew the call yesterday.
so there u have it
the rare occasion in which they made a mistake & owned up to it. That still doesnt make me happy about that game but it just shows the difference since perreira left. i know a lot of u guys think he’s an idiot on fox, but when he ran the officials, they were MUCH BETTER than they are now. Since he left, its exponentially gotten worse
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how about the other 20 bad calls they had during the game...
From no coughing the passer calls… holding calls…. bad spotting of the football.. phantom coughing call against OSI… did miss anything!?.. the league is looking lime a politician that git caught with its pants down and its saying …“it wasn’t me!”
by redevil on Jan 16, 2012 9:20 PM EST via mobile reply actions
is it the internet connection?
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So after all these years what we were told was a fumble is no longer a fumble.
I thought that was the classic example of a fumble. Oh I got it, it;s not a fumble when the Giants are playing
This has nothing to do with anything but its too funny not to show

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by The Always Well Dressed... on Jan 16, 2012 10:04 PM EST reply actions
License plate guy was representin'
And looks like he got a few more license plates
"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning
i think i need a Filter over my ass with all the smoke they are blowing.
I say let’s just keep putting teams away, so we don’t need to worry about winning in the last few minutes. This is how you over come the NFL not wanting you in the playoffs.
by hit_hard on Jan 16, 2012 10:10 PM EST via mobile reply actions
You know what? It was a good thing.
If the officials got those calls right, the Giants could well have held the packers to under 10 points. The national media would then be all over Giants jock even more than they are now, and the giants would probably be picked to be the SB favorite. And you never, ever want that.
Go Giants!
Arguing on the internet is like running in the Special Olympics. Even if you win, you're still retarded.
Giants defense sounds scary here...
In the past four games, the Giants have outscored their opponents 121-50. Opponents have been limited to 22 points in the postseason, and that total might need an asterisk. The Falcons scored two points when Giants quarterback Eli Manning was called for illegally grounding a ball in the end zone, and the Packers’ two touchdowns came on drives that were kept alive by questionable officiating calls.
I have to admit that I am a bit shocked about this turn around. Someone flipped a switch and it’s been fun to watch.
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so here's the thing, conspiracy theorists
Conspiracy 101:
1. The NFL is about making money.
2. Money is about scoring big points, and story lines.
3. Nawlins and GB are gone now.
If the conspiracy theories about the NFL and team favoring are correct, the Giants should benefit from it. They are the more explosive, point-scoring team, and they have more “story lines” — Eli winning another SB vs. Peyton, SB XL2 rematch, etc, SB vs ravens rematch…
For the record I am a rabid ref-hater. I despise officials and I think they suck. I DO believe the NFL has a vested financial interest in the success of some teams, that’s a fact. however I do NOT believe that there is an organized conspiracy, just a subtle sunconscious lean towards the success of certain teams.
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by Shoes31 on Jan 10, 2012
by Simms-McConkey on Jan 16, 2012 11:01 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Yea but Harbaugh vs Harbaugh might be what they want
for their SB so I would expect them to be pulling for the Niners this week.
This...yes.
Next in line would be a SB42 rematch. If the Harbaughs didn’t have a chance the NFL brass would be creaming their shorts to give BB and TB a chance to avenge that loss. Wouldn’t matter though because the SB42 loss was epic due to them being undefeated.
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I disagree
as a former member of the media, I think that SBXL2 rematch is the best story, better than the Bro-Bowl. But, this is just our opinions.
For TVs sake, I think the matchups rate as follows:
NY-NE
BAL-SF
NY-BAL
NE-SF
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by Shoes31 on Jan 10, 2012
by Simms-McConkey on Jan 16, 2012 11:14 PM EST up reply actions
You know Brady wants the Giants
"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning
I'd like to add...
1. Big Ben shot JFK
2. Flozell Adams was behind 9/11
3. The moon landing was filmed in Jerry Jones’ backyard.
4. Biggie and Tupac are living in Bolivia with Matt Dodge.
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Why aren't all the comments green in this thread?
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I for one feel vindicated today
Everyone was all “oh, don’t be a crybaby about the refs”
and I was all "The refs are changing games with mistakes:
and everybody was “don’t whine”
…
Look at the news today. ITS ALL ABOUT HOW BAD THE REFS ARE AND HOW THEY CHANGE OUTCOMES.
APOLOGIES SEAHAWKS FANS.
I HAVE TO WRITE IN ALL CAPS: F REFS. THEY GAVE GREEN BAY 14 POINTS IN BOTH GAMES WE PLAYED.
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by Shoes31 on Jan 10, 2012
by Simms-McConkey on Jan 16, 2012 11:48 PM EST reply actions
Unrelated funny picture

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That's racist yo!
Team Ghost: Manningham, Sintim, Beckum, Barden, JPP, Anvil, Ross
"But even if they do that [win the NFC East], once they get into the playoffs, they're going to see teams such as the Saints and the Packers and the 49ers, who started them on their current losing streak. And when they come up against teams like that, they're not going to have enough to hang with them, and there's not going to be anything they can do. " -- Dan Graziano
ha...for real
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All they did is explain a rule here that doesn't apply
It’d be the same as if they said:
RE: Bill Leavy on the supposed Greg Jennings’ fumble:
Section 114 article 7(b) clearly states that when a player steps out of bounds and is the first to touch the ball during a punt it shall be deemed illegal contact and a 15 yard penalty is to be applied on the next play.
Sec. 148
by pataroons on Jan 17, 2012 5:31 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Its funny
They Helped them in the first game. If i recall, 2 calls that ended in TDs for GB occured in first game, and they trieed to do it to the Giants again, only, GB couldnt hold up their end. Its AMAZING that the Giants even had a chance considering they were playing against 18 GB players… albeit 7 were in black and white.





























