New York Giants News And Notes: Saturday Reading Material
by Ed Valentine on Jan 14, 2012 7:02 AM EST
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PrintLots of reading material for you this morning, New York Giants fans! So, let's get right to it. And yes, a bunch of these are from SB Nation New York.
Let's break down the offenses of the New York Giants and Green Bay Packers position-by-position in advance of Sunday's NFC Divisional Round playoff game (4:30 p.m. ET/FOX).
As the buildup for Sunday's NFC Divisional playoff game between the New York Giants and Green Bay Packers continues, let's take a position-by-position look at the defensive units.
Somehow special teams always winds up being a factor when you get down to the most critical games of the NFL season. And we are certainly there, with only eight teams remaining.
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Defense No Longer Wins Championships?
I don’t necessarily agree with Judy in this from the NY Times — the Steelers defense was woefully out of position in defending against Tebow. But if the Packers, Saints, and Pats all win this weekend and Pack or Saints win the SB, then I’m going to have to take a second look at my core belief in defense, defense defense.
don't lose faith
it’s just a fad!
If some of your members are going to troll us on our forum, don’t expect [us] to hold themselves to a higher standard. If you don’t like what we are saying, its not your forum to go ahead and correct us as a guest.
by Shoes31 on Jan 10, 2012
by Simms-McConkey on Jan 14, 2012 9:44 AM EST up reply actions
It would be better said
Brute power wins championships. Often that means defense, but not always. Check the Giants of the 80s our last Super Bowl winner, etc. People think the Niners of the 80s were a finesse team, that’s a lot of crap. The Niners were one of the most physical teams in the NFL.
It’s how we can win. Does it matter if Rodgers and company scored 560 points, if our guys hit them so hard and so often that they think more about that than playing their game? How many teams put even close to our physicality on the field? If our DL beats up their OL, their QB gets a best down too.
Buts it offense also. They get turnovers, but in a closer game, with our running game going, they’ll have to do it bruised and battered. The Falcons are a good defense, they made few mistakes against us (doubling Cruz so that Nicks could make big plays). But by mid 3rd Qtr, they were not flying towards the ball as fast. That’s because our OL (more bulk than skill) got to hit people, cause AB and BJ ran thru guys chests. It affects psychologically and physically.
Anyway that’s my hope. That TC who is a big believer in power football, has a great gameplan for turning this into a slugfest, cause we have the heavyweight punchers on both sides of the line. That’s how we beat the Pats, and the Bills, and it’s how we can win Sunday.
PS if the Pats won in 2007, they would have held us to 10, and people could have said, see defense wins championships.
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
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by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16
I agree
People always focus on defense, especially with the Giants’ SB winning teams. But look at all those teams. One of the core strengths of all those teams was a physical, over-powering, top-notch offensive line and running game. That’s one thing this Giants team has been missing. The Oline is no longer top-notch, especially in the running game. It has looked better of late but that is now a weakness for this team as far as I’m concerned and it does worry me. We need to control the tempo of the game and impose our will on offense to keep Rodgers and potentially Brees off the field.
by NYStateofMind on Jan 14, 2012 12:44 PM EST up reply actions
Our OL isn't what it has been, but
They’re all physical, and when we can run, they grind guys down. The 07 group was overrated, as soon as we lost our outside threat they struggled. They were good, but not the outstanding group that the stats said they were.
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
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by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16
Having an outside threat
is part of having a good running game. You need that to keep defenses honest. In ’07 they were just coming together as a team and they averaged 4.6 ypc in the run game. By the ’08 season, that balooned up to 5.0 ypc. If we can get that kind of domination in the running game again this will really be a scary team.
by NYStateofMind on Jan 14, 2012 1:02 PM EST up reply actions
Especially
with the dual or even triple outside threat we now possess and the way Eli has really arrived. Honestly I don’t understand how we currently struggle so much with the run game considering how much respect defenses should give our passing game. That should tell you how sub-par the O line is now.
by NYStateofMind on Jan 14, 2012 1:05 PM EST up reply actions
Currently we dropped 170 on the 6th ranked run D
Diehl couldn’t play G, it was a disaster, and Baas going in and out totally destroyed continuity on an OL that made 3 changes.
Now with Diehl at LT and Boothe at LG (a position he played a bunch last year) we have only one new guy, he’s 10-12 games in and a season of study and practice. Voila the running game is better. Never worry about week 5 in the playoffs.
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
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by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16
As for the 'Picks and Predictions'
I’m not surprised 95% of commentators pick the Pack to win at home, based on their 15-1 record, Rodgers (he is amazing), and the Giant’s regular season record. But I don’t believe it. I keep coming back to the championship-affecting power of defense, and our finally having a healthy D playing as one. Our offense is fine, but our defense can make their offense look worse than ours, if only by a sliver. If we don’t turn the ball over, especially if we take it away, this seems like a game we will win. But it comes back to my belief that great defense beats great offense.
95%
I tend to agree with the general opinion which that the Giants will put up a good fight, and can hang with the Packers much more so than the 15-1 vs 9-7 regular season records indicate.
I’m figuring that the Giants can pull this one out by A: Doing what they do well, well and B: Winning the battle of mistakes by a good 2-1 margin.
The Giants just need the little extra push of turnovers and good special teams and the close game can swing in their favor.
So I’m praying for that, and of course, a San Francisco win today.
I think that defense does win championships
The problem is that there are no real “shutdown” defenses anymore, because the league has veered toward offensive football. Look at history – the # of defenses with nicknames and titles attached to them are legion.
The Ravens can be bullies, but they’re losing a step. SF may be the most complete D in the tourney right now. Let’s see how that one pans out today. Gotta believe they’ll take some of the air outta Brees’ passing attack.
"Allie Sherman wrecked the Giants!" - my 5th grade bus driver
Yes but pundentry is also saying
that they would not be surprised if the “most dangerous” team in the playoffs pulls out a win. They need to bring that attitude on every snap on each side of the ball.
I got a GIF for that!
by Fester McDougal on Jan 14, 2012 10:53 AM EST up reply actions
Compare this team to 2007
and the glaring problem with this team is a sub-par Oline. It has been getting better, but without a dominant punishing running game, I don’t think we will be able to repeat the success we had in ‘07. Granted Eli and our passing game are miles ahead of where they were in ’07 but to stop Rodgers, Brees, Brady, we need to control tempo of the game. Wear/beat the D down and into submission. I don’t like our chances if we have to shoot it out with those other QBs, no disrespect to Eli.
by NYStateofMind on Jan 14, 2012 12:48 PM EST up reply actions
If we can get to 3rd and 5 or 4 running, we can accomplish the goal
TC will use power today, same as we did in 07. Doesn’t mean we won’t throw, but we will run.
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
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by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16
Here's my core belief...
The league is set up for offenses to succeed now. Even mediocre ones can put up a lot of points. In such a league, having a great defense is truly a great asset – which is why I think we see JR placing so much stock in the D-Line year in and year out. Now, if we could only build our o-line the same way…
JPP + Cruz + Nicks + Eli
Yea, I'm excited about the next 10 years.
Yes, Yes, Yes
Do we try to win by building a team that can outscore everybody? Good luck. Rather, build a team that makes it hard for the other guys to run around like it’s an August scrimmage.
If we add some cover guys, the backers mature, and the D-line remains healthy and deep with young talent – look out for the next 5 years, NFL!
"Allie Sherman wrecked the Giants!" - my 5th grade bus driver
O Line
JR cannot keep ignoring this unit. A strong O can be as effective as a good D. We need to get the power running game back. I’d rather see Eli throwing for 4000 not 5000 yards, but still marching up and down the field like we did in ’08, wearing Ds down. But we know what Eli/Nicks/Cruz are capable of when the opportunity is there. Strong run will only open that up more. Giants would be beasts.
by NYStateofMind on Jan 14, 2012 12:54 PM EST up reply actions
JR keeps ignoring this unit
HUH
2008 – Boothe starting LG
2009 – Beatty starting LT
2010 – Petrus potl starting RG
2011 – Baas starting C
Will 2012 be Brewer’s turn? If we start Beatty-Boothe-Baas-Snee-Brewer, with Petrus in reserve next year, he’ll have overhauled the OL, made it better and younger. If anything look to TC his addiction to vets kept Diehl in the middle of that line till Beatty got hurt. Diehl still isn’t playing that well, no rushes off his end, and tons of pressure off his edge, but getting him away from the right side seems to have opened up the running game.
But to say he’s ignored the unit ignores that he’s been adding pieces almost every year.
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
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by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16
I am so tired of that assertion..Geez
Reese hasn’t ignored the line..we have a group of young linemen evolving into starters..Some people are plain nuts..I guess some people think you draft a lineman and he runs out onto the field day one..These people need to get a grip…
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Evolving into starters...
I’d prefer not to have projects on what I consider the most important positions on the team. Especially not at LT!!
by NYStateofMind on Jan 14, 2012 1:21 PM EST up reply actions
That's on TC
Diehl was used up last year, and he stubbornly went back to him. Didn’t help us one bit. If we had stuck with Beatty in 2010 and kept Boothe at LG with Richie at C, we could have simple brought in Baas.
This is the back end problem with favoring vets that aren’t playing at a high level. You end up with big changes some times and if there’s an injury (Seubert) it upsets the apple cart. Don’t pin TCs methods on JR. And before you think I’m killing TC, there is no way on our earth he could have known ahead of time that tis would be the result. He did what he thought was best at the time.
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
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by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16
Went back to Diehl?
Stuck with Beatty? Beatty was the unquestioned starter at LT at the start of the season. They slid Diehl inside to LG to cover up the loss of Seubert, since I believe Snee slid over to RG from LG. If they didn’t have anybody else to put in at LG that would be on JR for not having a proper plan or personnel since he has ignored this unit. Obviously Boothe or Petrus were not able to win the job from Diehl. The only reason Beatty is not playing is he’s on IR not cause TC wanted Diehl to play LT!
And also, as the unquestioned starter at LT at the beginning of the season, in that first Redskins game, Stephen Bowen made Beatty look like a chump!! Orakpo just made him look like a statue!
by NYStateofMind on Jan 14, 2012 2:52 PM EST up reply actions
2010 not this year
Beatty subbed in for a stretch mid season with Boothe at LG. They were a standout surprise. Our coaches yanked them for the send Philly game for Diehl and O’Hara. It hasn’t worked out well.
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
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by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16
Richie?
Are you talking about Seubert?? He was released at the end of last year. He had a bad knee injury I believe and would not have been ready for the start of the season even if he was on the roster. Do you even follow the Giants?
by NYStateofMind on Jan 14, 2012 2:56 PM EST up reply actions
My Bad
I just realized you were talking about 2010 not 2011. I got lost there for a minute. Damn. Wish you could delete posts on this dumb site haha
by NYStateofMind on Jan 14, 2012 2:57 PM EST up reply actions
No problem
But that’s the genesis of our issues this year. They didn’t transition young guys in when they could have in 2010.
Did TC know how the CBA would go? NO
Did he know Diehl and O’Hara would basically not succeed? NO
Did it retard the progress of the lines evolution towards new guys? YES
JMHO – some of what happened this year was not predictable. I expected Diehl to be fine at LG, he was worse. I was shocked by Kareem in 2010, 2011 has been a huge drop off.
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
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by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16
But
Do you really think they would have stuck with Diehl if Beatty was really better? I mean he had every opportunity in camp to win that job from Diehl in 2010 and he couldn’t do it. That worried me then and it still does now.
I don’t think anybody could have predicted the fast decline (Snee/McKenzie) and injuries to vets (O’Hara/Seubert) that forced their getting cut from the team, but there sure wasn’t much behind them to work with this year. That has to be JR.
by NYStateofMind on Jan 14, 2012 3:24 PM EST up reply actions
You can convince yourself of anything
If you are more comfy with vets, and in practice the guy who has done it 100k times always looks flawless and the 2nd year guy makes little missteps
Then it’s a game and a someone has to play out of position and you force it on the new guy
Poof all the proof you need. What’s disturbing, is that when Beatty got in field and outplayed Diehl, we still got more Diehl, makes me think the competition was never truly unbiased.
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
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by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16
I agree about Diehl by the way
He’s been used up for a while. Again, that goes back to my assertion that JR has not done enough to address the OL. If Beatty was ready to step in at LT I’m pretty sure he would have been starting in 2010. That just bolsters my argument about him. He couldn’t even win the starting job from Diehl! And I think we saw why in the first Redskins game this year. Used and abused by good pass rushers.
by NYStateofMind on Jan 14, 2012 2:59 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah I thought Beatty was 100% better than Diehl in 2010
I thought that the decision to play Beatty at RT for the preseason game was moronic. He had little experience there and has always played better on the left side. Further Diehl had played RT.
But that’s what happens when the coach favors vets. They get the little favorable things and the young guys have to press on. But my opinion the preseason and on field play favored Beatty all 2010. I can’t comment on practice, but I would always give priority to in game action.
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
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by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16
I understand coaches leaning on vets.
They are trusted commodities. But coaches are also hyper-competitive guys. They want to win. And more than that, their jobs depend on them winning. I have to believe the coaches are putting players on the field that they believe give them the best chance of winning. We don’t see half of what they see from these players. Are they always 100% correct? No way. In a way the Beatty injury was a slight blessing. Not because we lost Beatty but because it forced the coaches to shake things up on the line, getting Boothe and Petrus on the field. I think the combo of Boothe and Diehl on the left is better than Diehl and Beatty. Now hopefully the combo of Boothe and Beatty are even better than that.
by NYStateofMind on Jan 14, 2012 3:33 PM EST up reply actions
Coaches are hyper competitive
But they are also victims of their own dispositions. In Philly they love to go with the young guys, think they regret losing Dawkins? Their secondary has been rudderless since he left. Every coach, does that stuff. You like vets, you put em in position to succeed and you’re happy when you’re opinion is justified.
it’s a rare coach that just doesn’t care, and is willing to demote and cut guys without remorse. Think about Walsh. Parcells almost fractured the Giants ver Brunner vs Simms. Walsh goes out and trades for competition for a HOF QB.
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
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by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16
What I meant was
he certainly hasn’t gone after any top-tier talent in the draft. Maybe we had bigger needs (that’s certainly debatable) or there were guys on the board we just couldn’t pass on. I love that we have Nicks and JPP. Jury is still out on Prince. But I would also love to have some unquestioned stars on the OL. I’m still not really sold on Beatty. Boothe looks like he can be a good G for us (but guards are a lot easier to come by). Baas I’m also not sold on yet. How does SF just let a top-tier C walk away? Maybe because he is not top tier. They certainly don’t seem to miss him. We definitely need a much better RT and I would still like a better LT. I think we should give Petrus a shot at Snee’s job, and if he and Boothe can become very good bookending the C then maybe you don’t have to worry so much about Baas.
by NYStateofMind on Jan 14, 2012 1:16 PM EST up reply actions
Baas
Maybe SF does miss him. Their team rushing #s aren’t really exceptional this year. But I’m really more worried about our T positions and RG.
by NYStateofMind on Jan 14, 2012 1:29 PM EST up reply actions
Beatty played great in 2010
And was our best guy on a line in turmoil this year.
When the new guy is your best, that’s usually a very good sign for him
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
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by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16
I really don't think he played GREAT
That is definitely a stretch. Almost everybody agrees he was bad at run-blocking (and that’s what the Giants do…). I also saw plenty of games where he was abused by the opposing DE or OLB. Next year will be his fifth in the league and I still don’t think anybody could say “the Giants really have one hell of a LT there in Beatty”. And that is called a project. At LT. The most important position on the most important unit on the team.
by NYStateofMind on Jan 14, 2012 2:44 PM EST up reply actions
OK. When he played they gave up zero sacks and ran the ball really well
Next year is his 4th in the league and at one point this season Dan Graziano said he was playing as well as Jason Peters.
But I give in, he isn’t as good as Art Shell. He’s been a fine LT and it’s quite ordinary for a LT not named Anthony Muñoz to play really well starting year 3. And I’ll add that when you grab a fine LT at the end of the 2nd round, and other teams are drafting RTs in the first round, you should praise the GM.
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
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by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16
I don't know
Maybe I’m too hard on the guy. Maybe I am expecting perfection or something on the left side. That 1st Redskins game and even the Rams game left a bit of a bad taste in my mouth about him. As I said he was abused by Bowen and Orakpo and I can’t remember who on the Rams. The sacks stat is misleading. Eli has been good at avoiding the sack. But he has been harassed and hurried and flushed a lot. Especially in the Redskins game. Just because Beatty didn’t “give up a sack”, doesn’t mean it wasn’t his fault when his man beat him and flushed Eli into another DL who got the sack.
by NYStateofMind on Jan 14, 2012 3:09 PM EST up reply actions
Hmmm
Last year when he played next to Boothe they didn’t give up a sack, until I think Jared Allen got one in garbage time against the Vikes. They dominated the Vikes DL. It changed the game.
I didn’t see Beatty getting abused by Orakpo, I did see the Skins get good pressure up,the middle. Looked to me like they were owing after the Diehl-Baas area. Makes sense new guy, new spot, poor communication.
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
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by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16
I had this discussion with someone else
It prompted me to go back and watch some games, keeping my eye solely on Beatty. That Washington game was BAD. Beatty mostly drew Bowen, who he couldn’t really keep up with. Pascoe actually lined up outside of Beatty a lot and took on Orakpo. But the handful of times Orakpo went against Beatty one on one it was like a turnstile. They had to always send a TE or RB over to that side to help Beatty out.
by NYStateofMind on Jan 14, 2012 3:57 PM EST up reply actions
One thing I can say
is that it’s not like I pay very close attention to LT play on other teams. I don’t know how other guys do against top pass rushers so I’m judging Beatty in a bit of a vacuum. Maybe unfair….
by NYStateofMind on Jan 14, 2012 3:59 PM EST up reply actions
Hmmm
When they played Skins in 2010, everyone said Beatty’s gonna get killed by Orakpo, but he basically made him a none factor
One year later the interior of our OL is a shambles and it’s Beatty’s fault. In pass protection, if your GCG combo can’t get it done, the outside guys are playing on one leg. I’d say you can’t determine anything about your tackles when the center is a sieve.
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
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by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16
Skins Game
If you have the ability, I’d rewatch that 1st Skins game this year (NFL Replay on NFL.com is great. Only $40). Beatty’s problems had nothing to do with his linemates (unless you think the RG should be able to block his own man and Beatty’s). This was Beatty just getting worked one-on-one, over and over again. Maybe it was because it was early in the season. Maybe he wasn’t prepared with the lockout and all. Hopefully he comes back next year and really proves my argument wrong.
by NYStateofMind on Jan 15, 2012 11:02 AM EST up reply actions
Reminder Cleveland drafted to replace O'Hara
He wasn’t some big star when we signed him. But he was a vet trained and ready. They were following the same playbook this time, and lately I’d say they knew what they were doing. Injuries and a sort off season may have had more to do with our struggles than anything else.
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
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by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16
He's adding pieces
but nothing exceptional. Nothing that stands out. Boothe is probably the best OL we have right now. But as I said, guards are not that hard to come by.
by NYStateofMind on Jan 14, 2012 1:19 PM EST up reply actions
More on JR
I also have to wonder if he ever gave any thought to bringing back Seubert. Considering he was our best OL last year before he got hurt and how badly Snee has struggled this year, was this even a thought? He has to be over his injury by now right? Look how long it took JR to bring back Blackburn. He should have done that the day Goff went down instead of struggling through the year with all these URFAs at LB, especially in the middle. Look how much his presence has stabalized the LB unit. So it’s not like JR’s methods are beyong reproach.
by NYStateofMind on Jan 14, 2012 1:42 PM EST up reply actions
Final Thoughts
For the past 7 years, all the Giants have done is take a token, low-round guard in the draft, with the exception of Beatty (and I’m not sure you get a great LT at the end of the 2nd round). So if that is not ignoring the OL, I’m not sure what is. That’s like saying JR addressed safety this year by picking Sash in the 6th round. Low draft picks don’t often develop into quality starters.
by NYStateofMind on Jan 14, 2012 1:52 PM EST up reply actions
Sorry, forgot about Brewer. A mid round tackle. Good luck with that project.
Although I’m sure anybody would be better than KM.
by NYStateofMind on Jan 14, 2012 1:54 PM EST up reply actions
Final, Final Thought...
If the O line hasn’t been ignored, why is it currently one of the teams biggest weaknesses?
by NYStateofMind on Jan 14, 2012 2:08 PM EST up reply actions
To all of the above..You forgot Petrus too...
Thanks for breaking this up into bite size pieces..It won’t be as hard on my digestive system, as it would have if it was just one giant chunk of bullshit..haha
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
One thought after another kept popping into my head
I feel like I’m debating myself LOL. And I didn’t forget Petrus. He’s one of the token late round guards I mentioned.
by NYStateofMind on Jan 14, 2012 2:31 PM EST up reply actions
It isn't a big weakness
It has been a work in progress. I’ve already said, I don’t think it was ever as good as its rep on 2008, they clearly couldn’t dominate without Plax threatening the edge. Plenty of teams (Ravens ?) had OL that could.
What blue chip OL has JR passed on? We’d have to go 3-13 to get a top pick, maybe 6-10 for a really blue chip LT in the draft. It’s JRs ability to keep us good that prevents him from getting the guys you think he should find.
Let’s see what we think of Beatty with a LG who isn’t a turnstile and a C that has more than 60 minutes of experience with the team. Brewer was considered a top RT prospect n the draft, so I’m hoping he’s ready, cause I can dig a 6-6 330 guy with good feet out there. Add in Some fresh legs at RB (most expect the team to promote Scott and maybe bring in another new back to train), things could be better than ever.
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
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by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16
Regarding Brewer...
Here was one pre-draft write-up on him…
" …enters the NFL with just 21 career (college) starts. His size and potential pique the interest of scouts who might be inclined to gamble on his upside in the middle rounds if they’re convinced he won’t spend more time in the trainer’s room than film room and practice field."
That does not sound like a top prospect to me. The “gamble on his upside in the middle rounds” is what sticks out to me.
And I do get what you’re saying about not having the opportunity or not being in position to draft a great LT. And I am pretty happy with our 1st round picks lately. I also do realize that the Giants secondary had been a constant issue back then and our O line wasn’t.
I don’t know though. IMO we could have used 2nd & 3rd round picks on OL (G, C, RT), instead of guys like G.Wilkinson, C.Sintim, S.Moss, J.Jernigan. Of course hindsight is 20/20, but it still would have been more of a focus for me if I was the GM.
by NYStateofMind on Jan 15, 2012 11:01 AM EST up reply actions
OL a weakness...
Well we did finish dead last in rushing (3.3ypc?). And that is with a really good passing attack. Also, even though the sack #s don’t show it (probably because Eli is just a veteran who knows how to move around and get rid of the ball), the pass protection this year was not really that great. Rarely did Eli have a nice, clean pocket (think NE Patriots) to throw from.
Also, how can you say the 2008 (or 2007) Oline was over-rated? 4.6ypc in ‘07, 5.0ypc in ’08. Those are great numbers. And even though we had Plax & Toomer then, this was still at a time when Eli was putting up Trent Dilfer like numbers and not many teams really respected our passing game. Teams playing the Giants came in saying “We gotta stop the run”… and they couldn’t.
by NYStateofMind on Jan 15, 2012 11:14 AM EST up reply actions
Seubert would be here if he could play
He’s still walking with a limp, I bet his leg is never right. I’d put him in the circle of honor, I think he was the heart of the OL. Maybe not the best player, but he brought it every second of every game. I think Petrus is in his image. That cat is intense, he wants to annihilate people.
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
Football - It's Beyond an Addiction, It's a Way of Life.
by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16
Damn Really?
His injury was that serious? I didn’t realize that.
by NYStateofMind on Jan 14, 2012 3:53 PM EST up reply actions
Well he already had that horrible broken leg and that was a at least a double ligament last year
Add in a decade of pro ball and yeah
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
Football - It's Beyond an Addiction, It's a Way of Life.
by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16
Game Prediction
First off, let me preface what I will say with a note that I am still trying to understand what the Giants did to the Randy Moss Vikings when they made their run with Collins, so stranger things have happened. And the Giants CAN win this game, i dont think its farfetched, but ultimately here is why I think the Giants will be handled fairly easily in this game.
1) First and foremost, the Pack is 15-1, and thats not an accident. They are better than we are, and as good as Eli has been this year, Rodgers has been better. After alot of games this year, the Giants are a mediocre team, that has beaten alot of mediocre teams and has one good win (Pats) in a lousy division. We are on a roll, having played a good half against the Cowboys, and a good half against the Falcons, both mediocre opponents on our level. I am amazed at all the pundits picking the Giants, I have never seen anything like it. Its like because GB had a bye, everyone forgot how good they are and now everyone remembers 07 and does not want get left off the bandwagon. GB to me is in a great spot, at home, they got the undefeated crap off their plate, and they were able to rest a bunch of guys with injuries.
2) To me, the comparisons to the 07 team are few. That year, our team played a bunch of quality football down the stretch against tough teams. Jacobs and Bradshaw were healthy, our line was the best in football, our D was just flat out better and more consistent, especially in the back.
3) Our secondary stiil sucks, and we are playing Rodgers, who will exploit them. Look, our Dline was able to do some things the last couple of weeks to mitigate that, but a couple of things will hinder that this time. First, we are playing the cold grass. That will slow our rush. Secondly, Rodgers is NOT an immobile stiff. He is athletic, he will get rid of the ball quick where our rush is not a factor, and when it is, he will move and find guys wide open downfield.
4) The Giants can win this game with Ball Control, but I dont think Gilbride or Coughlin have the sack to call this type of game. The minute GB gets up ten, it will be throw throw throw, and the minute we run two running plays in a row and dont get a first down, they will be convinced we cant run and will be throwing some more. I think the Giants will instigate a track meet we cant win. Eli will be able to put up yards and points on GB, the problem is, you are playing one of the few teams in the league thats better at it.
5) In a game where to alot its a toss up, if you look at turnovers and specials, we are on the short end of it. GB gets turnovers like crazy, and most of us are just praying that Blackmon does not drop the ball every time the other team punts. I wouldnt think the pendulum swings toward GB on this one.
I hope i am wrong, but if we are closer than two scores at the end I am going to be very surprised. After alot of games, we are still a mediocre team with alot of key losses in the back playing one of the best offenses in recent memory. Its not a great matchup.
Hey Tom Coughlin – if you can pull something out of your ying-yang here and win this game, I will gladly forgive all the crappy football this team has displayed this year and relent that you and Fewell should hit the bricks. I wont say I will be able to understand it, but like Tebow, there comes a point where performance makes other arguments invalid.
So prove me wrong.
Pack 42 Gmen 28
Nice long post...
Giants 28 Packers 21..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Yes, nice long post
yours is better tho Bob
by Cruz Control on Jan 14, 2012 9:37 AM EST up reply actions
I'd love to see ball control
But I don’t see the Giants doing that. A good run-pass balance, yes, but they have not controlled a game on the ground all year. You dance with your date, and the Giants escort to this game is Nicks, Cruz, Ballard, and MM.
I wish we were built more for that kind of game. That said, I still want to see a good dose of Hynoski and Jacobs, but the game will be won by our defense keeping us in it and the offense making the big plays they’ve made all year.
"Allie Sherman wrecked the Giants!" - my 5th grade bus driver
The running game for this match..
Will be extremely important if they follow a recipe that calls for limiting Rodgers chances..But your right, we have not shown that all year…They did piss off our O-line however with their comments…So that will help motivate our line..Their D-line can’t stop a turtle, so maybe we’ll see the rush attack we’ve been looking for all year…
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
If we do go ball control,
and are having the success to stick with it, we better punch it in for 6 at the end of these drives.
The Giants are a big play offense so I think we will “dance with our date” as D J puts it but if we get a lead? Well, we saw the formula for success last week.
"We borrowed golf from the Scottish as we borrowed whiskey. Not because it is Scottish, but because it is good." Horace Hutchinson
No more score predictions...
By ball control..
I mean if we can control the clock..eat away at it and then let Eli and the gang throw for scores..We’ll be in good shape..an all out air war puts us at a disadvantage…
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Win TOP at the least, yes.
And we do that by running it effectively, keeping the clock ticking, PLUS we have to stop AR on third downs. Can’t win TOP if the Pack have the ball.
This QB is going to be hard to beat.
"We borrowed golf from the Scottish as we borrowed whiskey. Not because it is Scottish, but because it is good." Horace Hutchinson
No more score predictions...
Good point
We’re not trying to ground and pound v. the Steel Curtain of the ol’ Big Blue Wrecking Crew.
"Allie Sherman wrecked the Giants!" - my 5th grade bus driver
The problem with Stats,analysis, trends, and cold hard facts
is, if you believe they will determine the outcome of this game, you wouldn’t show up.
The Giants will show up
Amazing but true
the only stat that works on any given gameday, is the team that scores the most points wins
Got any documentation to back that one up, maraman?
"Allie Sherman wrecked the Giants!" - my 5th grade bus driver
send me a year by year breakdown for my files
"Allie Sherman wrecked the Giants!" - my 5th grade bus driver
Yeah all that stat crap gets tossed out the window..
The only stats that count are those posted Sunday…
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
If you didn't want to "forgive" TC for the divisional title...
if you didn’t “forgive” him for winning the first playoff game,
he don’t want your forgiveness now!
If some of your members are going to troll us on our forum, don’t expect [us] to hold themselves to a higher standard. If you don’t like what we are saying, its not your forum to go ahead and correct us as a guest.
by Shoes31 on Jan 10, 2012
by Simms-McConkey on Jan 14, 2012 9:48 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
This pic makes me wonder who the real Kracken is..haha...Rec'd
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Are you a Packers fan?
Last time we played them we matched them almost everytime. We lost in the last 53 seconds. Our defense was sitting back and Letting Rodgers rape our D-backs. Our defense is playing way better now. 31-28 Giants.
by SFloridaMetsFan on Jan 14, 2012 9:48 AM EST up reply actions
I bet you were one of the people calling for Reese to be fired during the offseason and also predicting a 6-10 record
Tony Romo, Michael Vick, and Rex Grossman are down with JPP
Die hard Giants fan since I was 4
J-E-T-S Just-End-The-Season
by JasonPierrePwned on Jan 14, 2012 11:05 AM EST up reply actions
If that post is representative
He probably predicted 6-10
And said 11-5 was also possible
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
Football - It's Beyond an Addiction, It's a Way of Life.
by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16
Give him some credit...he's been calling for Coughlin's head for quite some time and has held firm.
He DID say he’d change his mind if we won.
I don’t think he understands though, that we’re 2 games away from the Superbowl, and about to play a playoff game tomorrow. Sober thinking is for after the fact.
We’re all pumped up, testosterone flowing…and we all expect to win. We aren’t favored, and most rational people would say we lose, but damn it, we’re Giants fans, and we don’t give a f—- about what other people say, and anybody who predicts that we lose (probably unfairly) gets shunned, because honestly nobody wants to hear that shizz until if we lose. But that isn’t happening of course. Because we win.
I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.
by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 14, 2012 11:21 AM EST up reply actions
I hate it when anyone opens up with the opposite of what they are going to predict
I can see how they’ll win, but I just don’t think so etc etc
That’s a whole lot of prose to essentially take both sides. But I’ll be fair, others like to kill anyone that says the Giants will lose, so it can make you gun shy.
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
Football - It's Beyond an Addiction, It's a Way of Life.
by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16
No doubt.
problem with this outlook (by problem, I mean why everyone just jumped on this dude) so close to the game is that nobody cares anymore. We’ve been through the angle a thousand times. I personally am done being an analyst, and now I’m just a rabid fanatic. I’m also probably fueled by the arrogance of GB and their fans. And I’m most certainly matching that arrogance (justified) with arrogance of my own (less justified)…but I don’t really care lol
I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.
by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 14, 2012 1:39 PM EST up reply actions
Nicely argued.
Sounds a little bit like this:
http://espn.go.com/nfl/preview11/team/_/name/nyg
I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.
by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 14, 2012 11:07 AM EST up reply actions
LOL John Clayton
They may struggle to get 8 wins
Tony Romo, Michael Vick, and Rex Grossman are down with JPP
Die hard Giants fan since I was 4
J-E-T-S Just-End-The-Season
by JasonPierrePwned on Jan 14, 2012 11:08 AM EST up reply actions
Oxymoron alert @ESPN.com...headline
Intelligence Report
nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!
Just ordered FatHeads for all available Giants. Now I have something to aim at when punching holes in my wall.
Also...from the comments section...
some guys still out there are Randy Moss, TO, Houshmanzadeh, Brandon Tate, Donnie Avery, all guys that are better than Domenik Hixon and Victor Cruz and Devin Thomas combined.
I guess he was wrong
nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!
Just ordered FatHeads for all available Giants. Now I have something to aim at when punching holes in my wall.
Clayton has the predictive power of yesterday's newspaper
He’s made a career of telling you that favorites are favored. I assume he did better work as a newspaper guy for the Steelers
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
Football - It's Beyond an Addiction, It's a Way of Life.
by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16
I was about to post these guys
lol again
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Jan 14, 2012 2:18 PM EST up reply actions
all of this is LOL
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Jan 14, 2012 2:17 PM EST up reply actions
Actually
The secondary in 2007-2008 was riddled with injuries and consisted of young inexperienced players like Craig Dahl, Michael Johnson, Corey Webster (who up until the end of the season was viewed as a bust) and Aaron Ross. Also we had old broken down guys like RW McQuarters out there at times. Believe it or not, this year’s secondary is much better.
The linebackers were better in 2007-2008.
I don’t know if that changes your analysis much, but I think you did get that wrong.
To me the big difference is that Rogers>Favre.
by Tucker Fredrickson on Jan 14, 2012 12:51 PM EST up reply actions
Geoff Pope too
be played in the Dallas playoff game with Madison hurt then Ross separated his shoulder
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Jan 14, 2012 2:21 PM EST up reply actions
Ball Control and TOP
I also worry based on the rest of this season that TC and KG won’t stick with the run if there isn’t success early — which is loony because our O line and backs tend to wear down the defense if we keep hitting them. But there are ways to control the clock with a short pasing game – tho’ it means Cruz, Ballard and maybe Beckum & Hynoski making catches in the middle of the field to keep the clock running.
Stop SOPA.
Something I was thinking about...
The greatest seasons I have seen a QB have and the success of their teams is pretty impressive:
1984 Marino – SB appearance
1988 Montana – SB Champ
1990 Kelly – SB appearance
1994 Young – SB Champ
1996 Favre – SB Champ
1999 Warner – SB Champ
2004 Peyton – Lost Conference Championship
2007 Brady – SB appearance
2011 Rodgers….
History would tell us that when a QB has a historically great season that his team is at least going to the SB. Interesting to note that our Giants beat both Kelly and Brady and now have a chance to beat Rahgizz
200
"We borrowed golf from the Scottish as we borrowed whiskey. Not because it is Scottish, but because it is good." Horace Hutchinson
No more score predictions...
Consider also...
84 – Marino beaten by a VERY GOOD SF defense, allowed 16
88 – Cincy lost their star d-lineman early in that game and still held SF to 20
90 – Bills held to 19 by a VERY GOOD Ball Control Offense (essentially one’s best defense – almost 41 minutes)
94 – San Diego – no defense
96 – NE defense not great
99 – The Greatest Show on Turf held to 23
2004 – Colts – no defense; NE, very good defense
2007 – lost to a VERY HOT defense
Defense does play a big part in these contests. We keep’ em around 24 to 30, we’ve got ’em right where we want ’em!
"Allie Sherman wrecked the Giants!" - my 5th grade bus driver
Agree, we have the better defense..Way better than December when we lost
To them 38-35…
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
I see your point, and we love some defense 'round these parts,
but what has stood out to me is the fact that these guys, with the exception of Peyton in 2004, all made it to the Super Bowl.
And this is only the divisional round.
"We borrowed golf from the Scottish as we borrowed whiskey. Not because it is Scottish, but because it is good." Horace Hutchinson
No more score predictions...
You forgot Simms in 1986..Though I'm not sure what your criteria is here..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
If we add him,
again – the Denver defense was not great.
Tommy’s point is that great QB’s win these big stage games – and I agree, but when they lose it’s not because they were outgunned. It’s because the opponents defense shut ’em down.
"Allie Sherman wrecked the Giants!" - my 5th grade bus driver
Oh okay..got it..and Good Morning to you too, Dick J..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Not because they were outgunned....
Excellent observation. And we have the horses to run the ball, and at least slow down this scary offense of the Packers.
It is definitely going to take our best football of the year, by both coaches and players, to overcome this QB.
"We borrowed golf from the Scottish as we borrowed whiskey. Not because it is Scottish, but because it is good." Horace Hutchinson
No more score predictions...
what about Eli?
compared to the qbs on ur list, he’s blown most of them away. that may not be the case compared to the qbs of this season but he’s still had an amazing season
"Oh sir, the Giants of New York took on the Packers of Green Bay. And in the end, the Giants triumphed by kicking an oblong ball made of pigskin through a big "H". It was a most ripping victory."
Talk is Cheap! Play the Game!
You can't spell Elite without ELI.
He has.
But I wouldn’t put it up there with the best seasons of all time
"We borrowed golf from the Scottish as we borrowed whiskey. Not because it is Scottish, but because it is good." Horace Hutchinson
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he posted the 6th highest yardage total
OF ALL TIME
"Oh sir, the Giants of New York took on the Packers of Green Bay. And in the end, the Giants triumphed by kicking an oblong ball made of pigskin through a big "H". It was a most ripping victory."
Talk is Cheap! Play the Game!
You can't spell Elite without ELI.
Context though bro
On example would be marino threw for over 4,000 yards when receivers could be mugged all over the field. And his receivers were not that good, he had little running game and a bad defense.
I’ve seen all the guys I mention live and for me, Eli’s season is not on the same level.
"We borrowed golf from the Scottish as we borrowed whiskey. Not because it is Scottish, but because it is good." Horace Hutchinson
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ur seriously underestimating what Eli has done this year
he’s not a HOFer but he’s had one hell of a season. And almost all of the guys on ur list had a great run game, experienced wrs, & HOF coaches.
Besides Montana wasnt even the best qb in the league in 88. Boomer Esiason was. But neither ws Kelly. He was 13th in total yards & 4th in TDS in 99.
"Oh sir, the Giants of New York took on the Packers of Green Bay. And in the end, the Giants triumphed by kicking an oblong ball made of pigskin through a big "H". It was a most ripping victory."
Talk is Cheap! Play the Game!
You can't spell Elite without ELI.
packers nation really can't imagine losing this game
As far as I can tell.
They just don’t seem to believe they may be at all vulnerable.
I like that.
Now everyone will say Eli is in Bradys class. F*ck me
by PatNation85 on Nov 6, 2011 4:31 PM PST
by AJ_in_VA on Jan 14, 2012 9:10 AM EST via mobile reply actions
I guess APC...
Don’t remember December, when they beat a weak, confused defense by only 3 points in the final seconds…Now they face a fierce defense that is way better and stronger..more confident and fired up..So I don’t see how anybody can count us out..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
I feel obligated to re-point out the fact
that our O actually outscored their O (7 pts came off Eli pick 6) and there were two questionable TD calls that went against us (Ballard knee not down, Jennings bobbled TD). If any 1 of those 3 go our way, we may win that game.
That's right..We had a turnover and a bad call...
But you know?..I’m sorta happy we lost that game now…We lost 38-35 to the Pats in 2007 and showed up again and whooped their ass..We lost to the Pack 38-35 in December..and will show up and……………..????
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
That is the response I was looking for!!!
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
From the Urban Dictionary
Whoopass
To unleash a can of fury upon someone.
I will open a can of whoopass on yo’ ass!!!
I got a GIF for that!
by Fester McDougal on Jan 14, 2012 11:09 AM EST up reply actions
let me get that for you
If any 1 of those 3 go our way, or if the refs get either TD call right, wemaywin that game.
If some of your members are going to troll us on our forum, don’t expect [us] to hold themselves to a higher standard. If you don’t like what we are saying, its not your forum to go ahead and correct us as a guest.
by Shoes31 on Jan 10, 2012
by Simms-McConkey on Jan 14, 2012 9:51 AM EST up reply actions
And our offense outscored their offense
We just couldn’t outscore the officials as well.
"We borrowed golf from the Scottish as we borrowed whiskey. Not because it is Scottish, but because it is good." Horace Hutchinson
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by tommy d. on Jan 14, 2012 9:33 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
i think this attitude is not just about APC
I think the fan base actually reflects the underlying attitude of the team and organization as well.
Oh, they’ll say the right things, and the coaches surely know nothing is to be taken for granted. But that doesn’t mean the players really believe the season could be at risk to what they see as a 9 win team they already beat, and who they blew out last year.
And let me say something else no one wants to say. I think Philbin’s family tragedy and his unavailability this week could have something of an impact. I don’t think it will be measurable, but it smells like it to me.
The thing that would worry me watching their head coach this week is how depressed he sounds about the tragedy. I like his humanity and empathy from a pure human point of view, but unfortunately it also sets a bit of a tone. I’m feeling more distraction for this team out of this stuff than I am feeling “Let’s win one for the Gipper.”
It’s all just a hunch. But if there is such a thing as a possible trap playoff game, I think this is it. The Giants have that lean and hungry something to prove thing going on just as they are coming together on all cylinders- they know and believe they can win and they have enough healthy paranoia about the possibility of failure that they could ambush Green Bay
That’s what happened to Atlanta. This is a tougher challenge of an opponent for sure, but this game could surprise the Packers in a bad way, who may come out a little flat and get hurt by it.
Now everyone will say Eli is in Bradys class. F*ck me
by PatNation85 on Nov 6, 2011 4:31 PM PST
by AJ_in_VA on Jan 14, 2012 9:44 AM EST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
or Rodgers goes and and scores 82 points as a tribute
anyway, rec’d
If some of your members are going to troll us on our forum, don’t expect [us] to hold themselves to a higher standard. If you don’t like what we are saying, its not your forum to go ahead and correct us as a guest.
by Shoes31 on Jan 10, 2012
by Simms-McConkey on Jan 14, 2012 9:52 AM EST up reply actions
AR wil be focused and ready regardless
But will everyone else on all three teams. Consistency on coaching brings consistency across a collection of people.
I think the Giants will be more physical and coordinated for the game. And sometime around the end of the 3rd Q it will dawn on the Packers for real that they could lose this game. And then the Giants will smell an attainable win and assert their will on the outcome.
Now everyone will say Eli is in Bradys class. F*ck me
by PatNation85 on Nov 6, 2011 4:31 PM PST
by AJ_in_VA on Jan 14, 2012 10:23 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I have always sensed arrogance from McCarthy
He says things all the time like last week he was talking about how he likes it when he can play a team when both only have one week to prepare because he “likes” the way his team and coaches are set up. In other words, we are smarter than the rest of you.
And I understand all of your other points, but it’s AR that keeps me up at night.
"We borrowed golf from the Scottish as we borrowed whiskey. Not because it is Scottish, but because it is good." Horace Hutchinson
No more score predictions...
Well nobody wants to say it..but that tragedy does have an impact..
But it could swing either way..It could be positive or negative..but I’m sure they’ll pause and play hard…That’s what Philbin would want, and they all know that..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Yup, and I have told a few of them that they sound like guys not ready for a fall.
And that’s when it hurts the most.
"We borrowed golf from the Scottish as we borrowed whiskey. Not because it is Scottish, but because it is good." Horace Hutchinson
No more score predictions...
I expect this one to be low scoring in the first half
the Packers are gonna be rusty, there’s just no way they’ll be firing on all cylinders unless the Giants defense is gonna take a dump (speaking of that…brb…) to start this one. And the Giants offense just loves to oblige by keeping it close, be it with stalled drives cuz of drops, or FGs cuz Gilbride just has to get his screen-gasm in the redzone.
2nd half I’d say they’ll take more chances, change things up and then we’ll see some points. The key to this one me thinks is Jacobs. Do the Giants get him the ball, be it by the ignorance they show in avoiding him, or by them being down and passing a lot. Also can the Packers have a Giants defense like resurgence (remember they were good at one point) and take it too the Giants.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
I can see this scenario
Problem is, I can also see a frenzied Lambeau where the Pack just comes out flying and it’s 14-0 with 8 and change left in the first quarter.
Just no telling how this one comes out of the gates. Either way, I think our D needs to make a couple of message plays in the FQ, even if it starts to get away from them, just to keep the Pack from thinking they can impose their will offensively on the team
"Allie Sherman wrecked the Giants!" - my 5th grade bus driver
hopefully they just don't stink it up
especially after the Yankees found a way to ruin the start to my god damn weekend
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
Haha!! (speaking of that..brb)...LOL!!!!!!!!!!!
Now I know for sure you know your shit..hahahaha!!!..I’ll have to comeback and re-read this comment after I stop LMAO…
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Ain't gonna be -2 either
Not sure if that is bad or good
It is better to be silent and be thought a fool, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt.
All is Good!
The Giants will have the patience to hang with the Pack as long as the score is close. All the pressure is on the Pack to win just like it was in Foxboro!
by oldschoolblue64 on Jan 14, 2012 9:37 AM EST via mobile reply actions
True
15-1 will not mean much if they lose
by Cruz Control on Jan 14, 2012 9:39 AM EST up reply actions
You said something there - "all the pressure is on the Pack"
They’re 15-1…they’re looking to repeat…they’ve got the unstoppable offense.
We’re just a 10-7 squad happy to get another plane trip outta the deal.
"Allie Sherman wrecked the Giants!" - my 5th grade bus driver
As a fan...I, for some odd reason, am so satisfied with the late season success the Giants have enjoyed...
that I’m just looking forward to watching them play this game.
The pressure is on the Packers which is odd because you would think the pressure would normally be on the “pack-ee”…
nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!
Just ordered FatHeads for all available Giants. Now I have something to aim at when punching holes in my wall.
The pressure on the "pack-ee"
Very funny.
"We borrowed golf from the Scottish as we borrowed whiskey. Not because it is Scottish, but because it is good." Horace Hutchinson
No more score predictions...
you want idiots
I give you the Wilpons….now you’re talking idiots
by Cruz Control on Jan 14, 2012 9:44 AM EST up reply actions
ignorance has many shapes
what the Yankees did no doubt has it.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
obviously
they didn’t like his catching skills and they’re stuck with A-Rod who will probably become a FT DH before too long
by Cruz Control on Jan 14, 2012 9:48 AM EST up reply actions
A Yankee fan here
and I don’t get it either. But people buy into it. Jeff Passan’s column calls the Yanks hands down series favorites. For adding 2 below .500 pitchers who know nothing avbout NYC pressure?
"Allie Sherman wrecked the Giants!" - my 5th grade bus driver
Passan's always been dumb as a stump
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
I'm not sure how to feel about the trade
but that’s future TAWD’s problem
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Jan 14, 2012 2:25 PM EST up reply actions
It is a combo of many things,
but first and foremost they are happy with Martin, see the good young catching prospect in Austin Romine, and see the potential in the 23 year old arm from Seattle who many have said is the best young pitching prospect in the majors.
"We borrowed golf from the Scottish as we borrowed whiskey. Not because it is Scottish, but because it is good." Horace Hutchinson
No more score predictions...
Plus ARod will be the DH of the future
and Montero really doesn’t have a position.
So, the more I think about it, the more sense it is making. Though Montero’s September has me missing him already…
"We borrowed golf from the Scottish as we borrowed whiskey. Not because it is Scottish, but because it is good." Horace Hutchinson
No more score predictions...
Yanks got Pineda, a good young pitcher
I also read that Montero is not very good defensively and the Yanks do not want him as a DH.
With that said, my full attention is on Big Blue!
that idea is put to paper through ink, or electronic what have you
fact is Montero’s pretty good behind the plate for a 22 year old. He’ll never be Pudge Rodriguez, but he might just be Jorge Posada. His bat on the other hand was a few steps above Posada’s potentially.
I was all on the Giants until the Yankees had to poop on it. Hopefully the Giants win so I can not give a crap about the Yankees for a few more weeks.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
This
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Jan 14, 2012 2:25 PM EST up reply actions
Montero
if he turns out to be a stud, the Yanks can get him back when he becomes a FA…no prob
The Yankees traded Tebow?
If some of your members are going to troll us on our forum, don’t expect [us] to hold themselves to a higher standard. If you don’t like what we are saying, its not your forum to go ahead and correct us as a guest.
by Shoes31 on Jan 10, 2012
No, No, you got it all wrong
the METS made a big slpash today…signed Willie Mays
"Allie Sherman wrecked the Giants!" - my 5th grade bus driver
funniest thing EVER
nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!
Just ordered FatHeads for all available Giants. Now I have something to aim at when punching holes in my wall.
Hayes?
If some of your members are going to troll us on our forum, don’t expect [us] to hold themselves to a higher standard. If you don’t like what we are saying, its not your forum to go ahead and correct us as a guest.
by Shoes31 on Jan 10, 2012
by Simms-McConkey on Jan 14, 2012 10:16 AM EST up reply actions
yes
nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!
Just ordered FatHeads for all available Giants. Now I have something to aim at when punching holes in my wall.
This Just In: Wilpon Cutting Payroll to Save the Franchise
…hiring the original Bad News Bears at actor’s union rates…expects to field a “fairly competitive team on a par with the Met squads of recent seasons.”
"Allie Sherman wrecked the Giants!" - my 5th grade bus driver
Do prisons accept American Express????
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Yes but the swiping down your ass crack
hurts like hell
I got a GIF for that!
by Fester McDougal on Jan 14, 2012 10:47 AM EST up reply actions
Hahahaha!!!
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
lol
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Jan 14, 2012 2:26 PM EST up reply actions
I thought it was Willie Mays Hayes?
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Jan 14, 2012 2:26 PM EST up reply actions
Rodgers
I really hope we don’t him him too hard and knock him out of the game. Matt Flynn is playing for a BIG payday
Indeed
JPP needs to bring it all day long
I got a GIF for that!
by Fester McDougal on Jan 14, 2012 10:28 AM EST up reply actions
lol those poor goblin things
Tony Romo, Michael Vick, and Rex Grossman are down with JPP
Die hard Giants fan since I was 4
J-E-T-S Just-End-The-Season
by JasonPierrePwned on Jan 14, 2012 11:13 AM EST up reply actions
I found the winning formula to beat the cheese heads...
I for some reason thought back about a ‘The Little Rascals’ episode…Where ‘Weezer’ had a cold…So ‘Spanky’ mistook Vicks Vapo-Rub, and instead he coated Weezer throat with Limberger Cheese…No one would go near him he reeked…
So I would like the trainers to coat all our players with a good coating of Limberger cheese..We’ll be unstoppable..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
LMASSOFF
I friggin’ love the Little Rascals and I certainly remember that one.
On a downer… didn’t Michael Jackson, or maybe it was Bill Cosby, buy the rights to The Little Rascals so they could never be broadcast again because he didn’t like the treatment of Buckwheat on the show?
"We borrowed golf from the Scottish as we borrowed whiskey. Not because it is Scottish, but because it is good." Horace Hutchinson
No more score predictions...
Yeah I think it was Cosby..not sure...Damn shame..the show was funny, not racist...
Buckwheat was one of the funniest characters..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
didn't bill cosby
do fat albert?
and doesn’t fat albert have some of the most racist stereotypes of any cartoon ever?
Go Big Blue!
Fat Albert...no.
The Smurfs…yes.
nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!
Just ordered FatHeads for all available Giants. Now I have something to aim at when punching holes in my wall.
Just clowning...
Cosby did do Fat Albert and it was a bit politically incorrect.
nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!
Just ordered FatHeads for all available Giants. Now I have something to aim at when punching holes in my wall.
It works fine...
That brings me back! I used to watch that every morning.
nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!
Just ordered FatHeads for all available Giants. Now I have something to aim at when punching holes in my wall.
I'm gonna sing a song for you!
"We borrowed golf from the Scottish as we borrowed whiskey. Not because it is Scottish, but because it is good." Horace Hutchinson
No more score predictions...
nice
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Jan 14, 2012 2:28 PM EST up reply actions
full collection available on DVD
Now everyone will say Eli is in Bradys class. F*ck me
by PatNation85 on Nov 6, 2011 4:31 PM PST
but theyre from wisconsin
so if anything, thatll motivate them lol
"I like prime rib, and I'd love to win a Super Bowl" -Andy Reid
Hell I don't even know what Limburger
cheese is and I don’t think I have ever seen it, but I know it smells bad. lol
"We borrowed golf from the Scottish as we borrowed whiskey. Not because it is Scottish, but because it is good." Horace Hutchinson
No more score predictions...
Oh man that's some nasty smelling shit...
I’d rather stick my head in a stopped up commode at a rest stop on I-95 then get near that stuff..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
That's great
The old days of no cable, b&w TV, when a big screen was 19 inches
by Jimmy Orange on Jan 14, 2012 10:12 AM EST up reply actions
Gee, now all' we need is Cap'n Jack McCarthy and the Popeye cartoons on PIX
and Eli will suddenly inherit the scrambling abilities of the 2nd greatest “10” in franchise history – Fran Tarkenton.
Just thinking, though – would that be a combination of skills or what?
"Allie Sherman wrecked the Giants!" - my 5th grade bus driver
I'm not opposed to feeding Eli spinach..Anything to gain an advantage..I'm all for..haha
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
PIX!!!
I remember wanting so bad to play that game where you call in to PIX and say “PIX” on the phone to control the little dot on the screen in that tennis-like game.
"We borrowed golf from the Scottish as we borrowed whiskey. Not because it is Scottish, but because it is good." Horace Hutchinson
No more score predictions...
Pix Pix Pix Pix Pix Pix Pix Pix Pix Pix Pix Pix Pix Pix Pix Pix Pix Pix Pix Pix
Why is Tom Quinn still here? I loves me some Coach Clawfin.
I say 3rd greatest "10" in franchise history... Brad Van Pelt is 2
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Jan 14, 2012 2:34 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I could not agree more +1
I got a GIF for that!
by Fester McDougal on Jan 14, 2012 2:39 PM EST up reply actions
+10...We've been lucky with that number!!
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Yeah..the screens were 19 inches and the damn console took up half the living room..haha
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Just wonderin'
when did you guys get your first color set? I remember ours was in 1974.
There was a lawyer across the street who always had “state of the art” color sets, and he’d invite us over the Giant v. Browns games in the late 60’s. He was a big Browns fan. Looked awesome in living color.
"Allie Sherman wrecked the Giants!" - my 5th grade bus driver
My Dad built a Heathkit..that was our first color TV..I think it was like 1966..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Might have been later than that...
He couldn’t afford to buy one so he bought a kit..He was an electronics expert so that’s how we got our first Color TV..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Color TVs are racist.
nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!
Just ordered FatHeads for all available Giants. Now I have something to aim at when punching holes in my wall.
And TechnoColor is a hate crime
I got a GIF for that!
by Fester McDougal on Jan 14, 2012 10:39 AM EST up reply actions
And..High Definition...
Shows you how ugly actors and actresses really are…Bluey !!
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Spanky was the best
I got a GIF for that!
by Fester McDougal on Jan 14, 2012 10:37 AM EST up reply actions
LMAO!!!!!
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
And
put bubble gum on their hands so they don’t drop the ball
Hahaha!!..like that idea!!!
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Naaa, they just need to do what they are paid for...
Catch the f-ing ball!
I got a GIF for that!
by Fester McDougal on Jan 14, 2012 10:44 AM EST up reply actions
That game "never happened"
nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!
Just ordered FatHeads for all available Giants. Now I have something to aim at when punching holes in my wall.
Noesi Too
Yankees gave up a pretty good pitching prospect too….DAMN
Campos is a much better prospect
they didn’t do bad, its just really annoying how they’ve tried to trade Montero in nearly every deal.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
by Rorschach44 on Jan 14, 2012 10:20 AM EST up reply actions
After Brady destroys Tebow tonight...
The apostle Elisha Manning will slay the demonic beast in Indianapolis!!
nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!
Just ordered FatHeads for all available Giants. Now I have something to aim at when punching holes in my wall.
Peyton will give thanks to little bro once again
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Jan 14, 2012 2:38 PM EST up reply actions
Him and Archie will be at the game I bet..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Yankee Fans
Sweeny Murti on the Fan with Evan Roberts now
Which fan is he on and does he play on dismounting said fan anytime soon?
nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!
Just ordered FatHeads for all available Giants. Now I have something to aim at when punching holes in my wall.
lol...mount
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
by Rorschach44 on Jan 14, 2012 10:24 AM EST up reply actions
BOTTOMLINE is
Do whatever the hell we gotta do to win
*Don’t turn the damn ball over
*And if we dont get to Aaron, then we hav to hit em or disrupt em get hands up don’t make it easy
Remember when we faced Brett we didn’t sack him once but we disrupted everything else they tried to do on most of the plays
by AHoustonGiant on Jan 14, 2012 10:24 AM EST via mobile reply actions
The daily Swaggar!!!!!
Its on!
I got a GIF for that!
by Fester McDougal on Jan 14, 2012 10:26 AM EST reply actions
Funny how time works like clockwork
I got a GIF for that!
by Fester McDougal on Jan 14, 2012 10:50 AM EST up reply actions
Could never understand that theory...
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
It makes more sense with each beer
after a case, you can write a nobel prize winning paper.
I got a GIF for that!
by Fester McDougal on Jan 14, 2012 10:54 AM EST up reply actions
I have written Quite a few but
When I wake up I realize I can’t read Chinese
Why is Tom Quinn still here? I loves me some Coach Clawfin.
Thats how they will take over the world!
Is that racist?
I got a GIF for that!
by Fester McDougal on Jan 14, 2012 10:57 AM EST up reply actions
True I've done that...
But never submitted my papers…My dog Diesel Dick keeps shitting on them…
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
At least it is not Diesel's.....
I got a GIF for that!
by Fester McDougal on Jan 14, 2012 11:12 AM EST up reply actions
I added 'dick' to his name because he humps any guests leg that shows
Up at the house, including Jehovah Witnesses..I let them in on purpose because its funnier than hell….haha…“Oh here have a pamphlet !!…God bless !!!..Bye !!”
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
You ought to see them Jehovah's try'in to talk about the good Lord
With a Pit Bull humping their leg !!!…I look forward to their visits now…“Honey !! the Jehovahs are coming !!”…“Oh your not…”..“Hell yeah I am !!”..hahaha
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Tebow crazy on all sports channels
Tebo Mania is running wild
Why is Tom Quinn still here? I loves me some Coach Clawfin.
By 9pm we should look North and see The Tebow Bottle Rocket go off...POOF!!!
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Yeah I think the Tebow time shit
Ends tonight
Why is Tom Quinn still here? I loves me some Coach Clawfin.
sounds good
i hope we play him someday to knock him down a peg or two
"I like prime rib, and I'd love to win a Super Bowl" -Andy Reid
To show the way
I plan on skiing tomorrow in the morning. Temps in the single digits and wind chill below zero. I will wear sleeves however.
I got a GIF for that!
by Fester McDougal on Jan 14, 2012 10:56 AM EST reply actions
I skied up in Killington one year...
And it was so cold they gave you blankets…By the time you reached the Summit, they would just lean the frozen blankets against the lift shack like pieces of cardboard…brrrrr
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
I shall endevor to provide an example of endurance
to our fine men in blue and pads.
I got a GIF for that!
by Fester McDougal on Jan 14, 2012 11:11 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah sure does...Me an 10 other buddies used to rent a Chalet
Up there for the season…you had to plug an engine block heater in your car at night…Used to travel all over the country skiing..I can’t do that anymore…I’m now a warm blooded Floridian..If I tried that, I break up into frozen crystals..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
These days
you have battery powered heated boots and gloves. I’m not all that tough! :)
I got a GIF for that!
by Fester McDougal on Jan 14, 2012 11:22 AM EST up reply actions
Something tells me my booze run today
is going to resemble Nick Cage in Leaving Las Vegas. Good think my liver is stepping up its game for the playoffs
I have never stopped drinking since last Sunday
I will proceed in my endeavor to be blind drunk today and tomorrow as I am making home made chicken soup today due to cold weather down here in FL.
Why is Tom Quinn still here? I loves me some Coach Clawfin.
Taking one for the team never sounded so good
I got a GIF for that!
by Fester McDougal on Jan 14, 2012 11:20 AM EST up reply actions
Well if ya gonna be tough
YOU BETTER BE STUPID
Why is Tom Quinn still here? I loves me some Coach Clawfin.
wtf cos you are complaining about cold weather in FLORIDA????
I’m so friggin’ jealous. My ears damn near popped off and ran away after standing outside yesterday in jersey.
I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.
by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 14, 2012 11:23 AM EST up reply actions
Better your ears then some other piece of antotomy.
I got a GIF for that!
by Fester McDougal on Jan 14, 2012 11:24 AM EST up reply actions
There was no chance of that happening. I had somebody knit it a tiny sweater to keep it warm
I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.
by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 14, 2012 11:28 AM EST up reply actions
c--- coat.
I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.
by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 14, 2012 11:31 AM EST up reply actions
Pig in the Blanket
Indeed
I got a GIF for that!
by Fester McDougal on Jan 14, 2012 11:36 AM EST up reply actions
just a sack, not a sweater. Don't want it to get too sweaty
I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.
by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 14, 2012 11:31 AM EST up reply actions
No GIF for you!
I got a GIF for that!
by Fester McDougal on Jan 14, 2012 11:32 AM EST up reply actions
tiny?
Now everyone will say Eli is in Bradys class. F*ck me
by PatNation85 on Nov 6, 2011 4:31 PM PST
haha, she underrated "junior"....when he gets excited, he outgrows it for some reason...
I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.
by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 14, 2012 1:41 PM EST up reply actions
lol!
Oh it is damn near freezing here. 62 for a high today. LOL.
Why is Tom Quinn still here? I loves me some Coach Clawfin.
whaaat the hellll
its a balmy 13 degrees over where I’m at lol
I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.
by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 14, 2012 11:27 AM EST up reply actions
LOL!!
Well we are a bunch of wussies down here. I would die in those conditions you are in.
Why is Tom Quinn still here? I loves me some Coach Clawfin.
Wind chill in upstate ny, (lower case of course) = -2 F
I got a GIF for that!
by Fester McDougal on Jan 14, 2012 11:30 AM EST up reply actions
The lowercase ny fears no weather!
nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!
Just ordered FatHeads for all available Giants. Now I have something to aim at when punching holes in my wall.
Except for Kenny Phillips I think
My boy wears a skull cap and long johns in 40 degree weather games.
"We borrowed golf from the Scottish as we borrowed whiskey. Not because it is Scottish, but because it is good." Horace Hutchinson
No more score predictions...
hahaha
he does, lol
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Jan 14, 2012 2:44 PM EST up reply actions
I blame the U for that
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Jan 14, 2012 2:44 PM EST up reply actions
HA! Oh, the HORROR!
I would set myself on fire before suffering through the Floridian ice age.
nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!
Just ordered FatHeads for all available Giants. Now I have something to aim at when punching holes in my wall.
I hate you
and your 62 degree State
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Jan 14, 2012 2:43 PM EST up reply actions
Well it's not cold enough...
To prevent going outside for a nature leak and run the risk of your dick falling off..but it’s cold..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
I'm proud...keeping the momentum going like that...
Yeah it got cold down here…Those goddamn Canadiens don’t piss outside enough..We keep getting cold fronts…
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Yeah tell them to stop
I want it back in the 80s
Why is Tom Quinn still here? I loves me some Coach Clawfin.
Why the Giants will win:
We have the Interception Machine, the Kraken, The Dream (known also as OptiNicks Prime), HAM, CRUUZZZZZZZZZ, Big Boy.
All they have is Discount Double Check. Our nicknames are much better. Is it Sunday yet? I’m tired of waiting.
I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.
by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 14, 2012 11:17 AM EST reply actions
Indeed, the Tomahawk Missile will blow right through their DB's making em look silly
I got a GIF for that!
by Fester McDougal on Jan 14, 2012 11:19 AM EST up reply actions
That reminds me of JPP hitting Rodgers.
I got a GIF for that!
by Fester McDougal on Jan 14, 2012 11:23 AM EST up reply actions
....
A few milliseconds later….
I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.
by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 14, 2012 11:26 AM EST up reply actions
In the days of yore, it looked thus
I got a GIF for that!
by Fester McDougal on Jan 14, 2012 11:31 AM EST up reply actions
dont you hate when that happens?
Tony Romo, Michael Vick, and Rex Grossman are down with JPP
Die hard Giants fan since I was 4
J-E-T-S Just-End-The-Season
by JasonPierrePwned on Jan 14, 2012 11:47 AM EST up reply actions
What a brain crushing blow...haha
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
My bwain hurts
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
Football - It's Beyond an Addiction, It's a Way of Life.
by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16
I see nothing
Why am I being ostracized?
nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!
Just ordered FatHeads for all available Giants. Now I have something to aim at when punching holes in my wall.
oooooooooo damn
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Jan 14, 2012 2:38 PM EST up reply actions
Over at the GB site, they are asking "how do you stop Rodgers?"
I posted the above. They are not amused.
I got a GIF for that!
by Fester McDougal on Jan 14, 2012 3:56 PM EST up reply actions
Lol!!!!!
“OptiNicks Prime”
hahaha!! Man I love this site.
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by oldschoolblue64 on Jan 14, 2012 11:41 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Will do..cool!!
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Is that all I had to do?..or do I need to do that sweepstakes bullshit..??
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Yeah that was it! The sweepstake was extra.
by oldschoolblue64 on Jan 14, 2012 11:58 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Okay thanks..done deal
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Just voted
Then realized you can vote as many times as you want, so I voted about 20 more times. Let’s get Cruz what he deserves.
I thought I heard they were not gonna go with a "young" coach though.
nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!
Just ordered FatHeads for all available Giants. Now I have something to aim at when punching holes in my wall.
I guess they are looking for a defensive genious...
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Does Fewell have Dick LaBeau locked up in a abduction bunker?
nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!
Just ordered FatHeads for all available Giants. Now I have something to aim at when punching holes in my wall.
HA...
Let’s just say that I have a “friend” who thought it was much safer to build his own than bring in any 3rd party bunker building contractors.
nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!
Just ordered FatHeads for all available Giants. Now I have something to aim at when punching holes in my wall.
If the G-men make the Championship game
PF’s stock will rise much like Stokeley’s package
I got a GIF for that!
by Fester McDougal on Jan 14, 2012 1:28 PM EST up reply actions
don't do it, Fester
Now everyone will say Eli is in Bradys class. F*ck me
by PatNation85 on Nov 6, 2011 4:31 PM PST
Fear not
I know the limits that Ed will go with such visual depictions.
I got a GIF for that!
by Fester McDougal on Jan 14, 2012 2:23 PM EST up reply actions
I wonder if Spags is willing to do a McDaniels
and come back?
…but on the defensive side.
…and for the good guys, of course.
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