Giants Vs. Packers: Comparing The Receivers
by Ed Valentine on Jan 12, 2012 11:50 AM EST
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PrintIn our 'Five Questions' segment this morning, Acme Packing Company lead blogger Brandon Benson dodged my question about the Pro Bowl selection of Green Bay's Greg Jennings over New York's Victor Cruz. I think we know Jennings over Cruz this season is a pretty indefensible selection, and I suspect Brandon knows it, too.
Related: Comparing the offenses, position-by-position
Let's go a step further. Which overall receiving corps, is the better one? Any way you slice it, the Giants and Packers have two of the best receiving corps in the league. Here are the numbers, including the tight ends:
Green Bay
Jordy Nelson ... 68 catches, 1.263 yards, 18.6 yards per catch, 15 touchdowns
Greg Jennings ... 67 catches, 949 yards, 14.2 yards per catch, 14 touchdowns
Jermichael Finley ... 55 catches, 767 yards, 13.9 yards per catch, eight touchdowns
James Jones ... 38 catches, 635 yards, 16.7 yards per catch, seven touchdowns
Donald Driver ... 37 catches, 445 yards, 12.0 yards per catch, six touchdowns
Randall Cobb ... 25 catches, 375 yards, 15.0 yards per catch, one touchdown
New York
Victor Cruz ... 82 catches, 1,536 yards, 18.7 yards per catch, nine touchdowns
Hakeem Nicks ... 76 catches, 1,192 yards, 15.7 yards per catch, seven touchdowns
Mario Manningham ... 39 catches, 523 yards, 13.4 yards per catch, four touchdowns
Jake Ballard ... 38 catches, 604 yards, 15.9 yards per catch, four touchdowns
From the numbers you would have to say that Green Bay has greater depth, but the Giants have the more explosive players.
Your thoughts, Giants fans?
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Jennings is oddly missing
from your comparison…but this boils down to QB play. Both QBs are willing to go to any open receiver, not just their hot route or playmaker. Rodgers may be slightly better about not forcing balls into coverage.
Slightly?
I’m a Giants fan but Rodgers is considerably better about not forcing balls into coverage. He takes few risks. He’s so darn accurate that even when he takes what seems like a risk, you see that it wasn’t a risk at all.
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Yeah slightly was an understatement (takes blue tinted glasses off)
and Rodgers accuracy seems to get better when he’s rolling out of the pocket, which is pretty incredible.
Yes, it is...
His accuracy is amazing. I watched a clip of Rodgers dropping ball after ball into a net from like 50 yards away. It was crazy. Plus, the Giants need to get to Rodgers with their front 4 because Aaron Rodgers absolutely shines against the blitz.
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52% of Rogers Yardage Comes after the Catch
Below is the passing yardage for the top 5 NFL QB from spot thrown to the spot of the catach.
Name Y/A Y/C Total YDS
Manning 5.02 8.26. 2,958
Brees 4.48 6.29 2,942
Stafford 3.87 6.26 2,635
Brady 4.14 6.31 2,531
Rogers 4.45 6.51 2,233
Eli by far is the better passer.
I think you have the wrong statistics
these appear to be Yards per Attempt and Yards per Completion.
I don’t see anything to suggest Yards after Catch stats.
I did that below
These are true passing yards without yards after the catch. Yards after the catch are below
Here's a fun stat to find info on........
How many different targets does Eli hit/complete during a game? Rodgers has hit double digits in #’s of receivers per game sevral times this year. Should that be considered as to whom has the better set?
different style of offense
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by GMen56-11 on Jan 12, 2012 2:00 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Jennings is second on the list
Isn’t it a little early to be drinking
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Rodgers just murdered the completion rate record
all time. He’s one accurate mofo.
by The Cole Train on Jan 12, 2012 12:15 PM EST up reply actions
Thought that we Brees?
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
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by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16
Not when Adjusted for Difficulty
Rodgers through five yard passes that turn into 15 yards because of their offences. His accuracy is over rated as it is not adjust for difficulty of throw. Eli Yards Per Completion is 1.75 yards greater then Rogers at 61%. Eli average pass is 19.2 yards virus Rogers 7.2 yards. This is from Ellis Sports.
Jennings isn't missing
He’s in the list.
by Ed Valentine on Jan 12, 2012 12:27 PM EST up reply actions
IMO
the numbers are a tad deceptive because of scheme.
The Giants RARELY go 5-wide, so guys like Thomas, Barden, and Jernigan don’t get to see the field all that often.
To say that the Packers’ depth is BETTER is a bit misleading… the Giants’ depth is largely unused. That being said, the fact that the passing game has STILL produced despite injury and turnover speaks well of the depth at the position.
this is a good point
our WRs 4 & 5, even if they could every pass they were targeted for, would have #s nowhere near what Jones/Driver/Cobb have
why do we not?
Scheme or talent? It is hard to prove either way
by Ualtar on Jan 13, 2012 12:09 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I think both are awesome receiving corps. If we're including TE, though, I think the answer is pretty clear.
Green Bay is better.
The strengths and weaknesses of said receiving corps are different. I think ours are more “athletic”….they have Jordy Nelson and Jermichael Finley, yes…those are athletes…but overall I don’t think they match up physically with Nicks, have the shiftiness and speed of Cruz, and the speed of Manningham. I think we outgained them in terms of YAC, which is incredible considering they are KNOWN for YAC.
What advantage they DO have, I think, over the Giants is football IQ. I think they diagnose defenses faster than our WRs do and can find the soft spot in most defenses. They also are better route runners than our corps as a whole. Cruz is amazing at running his routes, but Nelson, Driver, and Jennings are both at least equal to him. All too often I see Nicks catching the ball due to raw physicality as opposed to finding the holes in the defense. That’s probably why they have close to double the TDs our WRs have….they find ways to get behind the defense or find holes in the defense to score, versus our guys who catch it in traffic and then get caught close to the goalline, thereby having 44 or 27 vulturing TDs. Despite our ass-backwards running game for most of the year, we still had 17 TDs…good for 6th in the league, with 3 teams getting 18, Philly (McCoy) getting 20, and Carolina behind Cam getting 26.
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by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 12, 2012 12:02 PM EST reply actions
Hypothetically, how different would those numbers be for both WR corps
if Eli and Rodgers switched teams for the regular season?
I don't think there's any doubt that our WRs numbers go up slightly, and GB WRs go down slightly.
Rodgers > Eli, there’s no mistaking that…he’d probably place the ball a little bit better than Eli would, and also, since he’s more mobile than Eli….his rollouts would probably result in more TD big plays…
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by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 12, 2012 12:13 PM EST up reply actions
I agree BBI
and of course, a lower INT rate would result in longer drives, more catches for the WRs.
agreed
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by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 12, 2012 12:18 PM EST up reply actions
A lot of what you describe is because they use a WCO
We don’t.
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
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by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16
If Eli was on GB
I dont think their WR numbers would go down much .. The offensive scheme they run is a big reason Rodgers has the kind of numbers he has .. They run 5 WR set on like 75% of their plays (exaggerating a little .. but still) .. If the ball is on the 5 yard line or closer, we run first .. they almost always throw .. Hence more TDs for Rodgers ..
All that said .. i do agree .. Rodgers > Eli .. But Im fine with that .. I’d prefer Eli throwing for ~4000 yds .. and the RBs going for ~2000 yds .. thats a winning combination imo ..
forgot one point ..
even Flynn threw for ~500 yds and 6 TDs on that offense (and made alooot of money)
I agree completely...
The TEs tilt the scales in the Packers’ favor.
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only because of injury to Ballard and missed games, otherwise he would have had better #'s!
by oldschoolblue64 on Jan 12, 2012 12:50 PM EST up reply actions
How is Beckham not in this conversation
he had like 4 catches !!
Did you mean Beckum who scored a TD against some team in regular season?
This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.
Another thing they do better than us is
their receivers are better at coming back to the ball when AR needs to buy time. IMO, it is the biggest difference btwn their passing game and ours. MM and Croooze especially have to learn to come back to the ball when Eli is being rushed.
DavebrownNOT
Absolutely on target on every point, BBI, particularly
football IQ. Because of Ham, there’s a big gap there.
No GB Leads in Yards After the Catch
52% of GB passing yards is yards after the catch compaired to 40% of Giants passing yards coming from yards after the catch. Eli leads the league in true passing yards with 2,958. This 16 more true passing yards than Brees.
I believe Vick only had like 1 rush TD this year
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Jan 12, 2012 6:47 PM EST up reply actions
agree about the running game on the goal line
that stats is not as important because Bradshaw and Jacobs are both good on the goal line, whereas the packers are not so, to the point of giving it to raji.
If you're just looking at WRs this is a close competition
but once you add in the Finley vs. Ballard TE mix this isnt even close. I know Finley’s number aren’t phenomenal this year, but he’s a tremendous athlete the creates problems for any defenses… Ballard is having a nice year, but a lot of that is due to Eli.
I still think GBs WRs are a little better than ours, but not by much… I think MM is better than any of the other 3 GB puts out there (jones, driver, cobb), but Jennings and Finley really are THAT good… but the margin is slim.
Drops could decide this game.
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I'm thinking Picks
Will decide this game
Why is Tom Quinn still here? I loves me some Coach Clawfin.
Turnover will be huge
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I'm thinking points well decide this game
by B-rod24 on Jan 12, 2012 3:40 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
in comparing WRs
I would only take into consideration, drops and YAC. then we will see what we come out with.
YPC, depth and total yards is deceptive and disjunct. We go 2 wide about 50% of the time, while GB (best guess) goes 3+ wide 75% time. Compare only what you can compare. The actual WRs themselves.
Regardless of what happens, No playoffs, playoffs, no superblow, superblow.... The 2011/2012 is one of my favorite Giants Teams of all time.
Here the Giants V GB Top 3 WR, TE, Top Catching RB YAC
Giants GB
Cruz = 603 Nelson =438
Nicks = 365 Jennings =323
Manningham = 112 Jones =289
Ballard =199 Finley =250
Bradshaw =309 Grant =278
I think that is pretty freaking clear cut
again just my $0.02
Regardless of what happens, No playoffs, playoffs, no superblow, superblow.... The 2011/2012 is one of my favorite Giants Teams of all time.
Thanks for the info.
Regardless of what happens, No playoffs, playoffs, no superblow, superblow.... The 2011/2012 is one of my favorite Giants Teams of all time.
I love our guys
but I don’t think there’s much to compare. Our guys either led the league or came very close to leading the league in dropped passes. I know GB guys have some drops (most in the last game vs NYG), but they’re not challenging our guys there.
They also can’t touch us on running the wrong route/making the wrong read. If that were a stat, between Cruz (b/c he’s young and new I hope) and Manningham (b/c he might just be kinda dumb) we dominate the disconnect between WR and QB.
I think we are faster and stretch the field a bit more, but Finley is such a huge step up for them. Also, they are way more precise, lot’s of timing routes and picks and crossers. I think Eli makes guys like Ballard look better at times.
We led the league in drops in 2007
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by Spider Lockhart on Jan 12, 2012 12:26 PM EST up reply actions
Don't see what the big fuss over dropped passes is.
Dispite the dropped passes we are still in the playoffs and our wide receivers have stepped up and made big plays when they needed to. This dropped passes bs is overrated.
by LoNJDTechnology on Jan 12, 2012 12:50 PM EST up reply actions
yeap
Roddy White lead the NFL in drops but still caught 100 balls. Doesn’t make you a bad WR, it just mean the law of averages says you will not catch everything.
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Jan 12, 2012 12:53 PM EST up reply actions
dropped passes don't make you a bad WR/TE
but it does throw off your momentum and rhythm on offense. We’ve lost plenty of games where if the Giants catch the god damn ball, they win.
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by Rorschach44 on Jan 12, 2012 12:57 PM EST up reply actions
And I agree with this as well.
However I do not think that most of the “plenty of games” are games that we played this year. I would conclude…off the top of my head…that we probably lost…maybe two game this season…as a result of dropped passes.
by LoNJDTechnology on Jan 12, 2012 1:04 PM EST up reply actions
yeap
2nd Skin game, 2nd Eagle game
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Jan 12, 2012 1:07 PM EST up reply actions
Seahawks Too
Damn tipped pass interceptions.
2 games is a lot of games
that brings us to 11-5. Also while maybe ‘lost’ was a bad word, Id’ say we kept plenty of other teams in games that we won by smaller margins then they should’ve been by dropping balls.
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Packers
mainly because of depth and the TE
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Jan 12, 2012 12:16 PM EST reply actions
Well Barden and JJ
Dont see the field anywhere near as much as Jones/Driver/Cobb. We like the 2 TE system and use our FB more.
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i am concerend that Barden will become another Moss. Barden needs to be activated and score at least one TD for us to open up the game for the rest of the post season.
This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.
Maybe they are keeping Barden to see what happens with MM next offseason.
This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.
I mentioned on the other thread..The receiver strength is a draw...
Both have good units…and Ballard is a good TE..I think our guys are just as explosive as theirs..So I see no advantage on either team here..That ATC guy is a Packer fan, so I would expect him to favor their crew..I’m a BBV guy and a Giants fan..I’ll go with our guys…
But looking at it objectively I think both teams are even in this category..
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I don't want to be anywhere near either of their units when they explode.
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lol
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Jan 12, 2012 12:24 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah two very talented receiving units...
You let either loose you’ll get burned…
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I like the GB receivers/TE better
Before the catch. They have better route runners and know where to go to find the spaces in the defense and know where to go when they have the option. Not saying teh Giants receivers don’t, just not as well.
After the catch, the NY WRs have been great getting extra yards and finding the spaces to get those extra yards. Some of the moves Cruz has pulled off this year have been incredible (and I’m not just talking about his salsa dancing).
So, my answer is throw to Jennings, hand off to Cruz and watch the TDs rack up!!!
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You must also include receivers out of the backfield
The question really is would you rather have Eli throwing to our receivers and Bradshaw/Hynoski/Ware or AR throwing to their receivers and Grant/Kuhn?
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That's a very good point..We have RBs that can catch and run with the ball..
Plus they are good ‘high Hurdlers’…haha
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Why Did Eli Have 750 more Yards Through the Air than Rogers?
52% of Rogers passing yards came after the catch compaired to 40% for Eli. If the GB receivers run better routes tha eli adjust better to the poor routes than does Rogers. If that is the case if you mess up GB timing you shout them down.
Two things
Rogers played in one less game than Eli did. I’m not saying he would have thrown for 750 yards in that game, but the comparison would have been a lot closer.
Secondly, I wasn’t saying that Green Bay doesn’t get yards after the catch, but they get it because they are wide open after running 5-wide, 4-wide receiver sets. The Giants YAC is usually a result of great movement by Cruz or Nicks after the catch.
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best thing, like mentioned above...DROPs...that's why GB takes it, they catch most of the passes
we have some WRs that like the dropsies
JPP, ELI,
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Off topic..It looks like Fisher is now leaning towards Miami...
Everybody had him going with the Rams..but it is back to a dogfight..
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so Vick is involved then?
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Jan 12, 2012 12:25 PM EST up reply actions
Haha!!..I actually got that just as I posted it..too late..
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Only in his wildest dreams!
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so sayeth Vince Young
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Jan 12, 2012 12:29 PM EST up reply actions
sayeth...sweet
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If Fisher picks Miami...that's another couple of shovels of dirt on the Jets grave...
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good point
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I love our big 4
But they have more depth and can put more pressure on the middle and back end of a defense.
I think Eli would be a monster with those recevers and scheme. I hope that we continue to adf to our WR and TE corps. Eli is as good as anyone in the NFL right now.
by Giant Ken on Jan 12, 2012 12:26 PM EST via mobile reply actions
How different would the comparison be if
Stockely and his package was still a Giant?
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Jan 12, 2012 12:33 PM EST reply actions
Good question!
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Or is Plax had been only carrying a slingshot
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by Spider Lockhart on Jan 12, 2012 12:56 PM EST up reply actions
if
I am a fan of Kevin Gilbride and I don't care what you say
by Spider Lockhart on Jan 12, 2012 12:56 PM EST up reply actions
true
but maybe Nicks would not have been drafted then
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Jan 12, 2012 1:00 PM EST up reply actions
I love the Giants to death and I bleed Blue but,...
I gotta keep it real here. With the exception of Victor Cruz and maybe Hakeem Nicks (he gets a pass after last week’s performance) I can’t say that we have the more explosive receivers. Maybe if our receivers had the same hands as Green Bay’s guys I would say maybe, but the way our WR corps has had the dropsies this year, that is a longshot. Drops has continually been a problem, and STILL is a problem as Cruz had two drops and Ballard dropped a sure TD pass in the end zone. The worst part about those drops are the fact that the ball always seems to hit them square in the hands, which is beyond me that guys at this level are still dropping the ball in such fashion. In order for us to beat GB, we have to get back to Football 101 and CATCH THE BALL and that goes for our DBs too. The little things can determine the slim line of win or loss in the playoffs
Since the Redskins the game, thankfully it seems we've improved. Hopefully it sticks
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by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 12, 2012 12:38 PM EST up reply actions
Since the Redskins the game, thankfully it seems we've improved. Hopefully it sticks
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by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 12, 2012 12:38 PM EST up reply actions
I think the Giants lead the league in "big plays" this year.
They are explosive.
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I think explosive players and dropped passes are connected
Take a Cruz, if has some drops this year. One of the reasons for them is he slightly takes his eyes off the ball as he is catching because he is thinking about his next move (1st Philly game but he still made the catch). Same with next when he is coming across the middle of the field (big drop in the 2nd Dallas game last year).
Its one of those things we as fans have to deal with. These guys after the catch are awesome but at times, they think about run before the ball is fully in their hands.
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Jan 12, 2012 12:47 PM EST up reply actions
def agree with this
look at the way SS caught the ball in the past. he would focus on the catch but wouldn’t be in a position for YAC. Cruz is the opposite, and taking your eyes off the ball for even less than a second adds to the drops. still love the big play ability.
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Jan 12, 2012 12:57 PM EST up reply actions
GB dropped a lot of balls against us
The game would not have been close if the held on to them. The D needs to make that happen again
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by Fester McDougal on Jan 12, 2012 1:00 PM EST up reply actions
very true
a lot of drops on 3rd down in that game
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Jan 12, 2012 1:01 PM EST up reply actions
the game also had a TD that was not a TD
and a non-TD that was a TD. I wonder if it’d be close or not close with those added in there.
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Yeah receivers are not going to catch everything thrown to them..
And your right sometimes that’s due to peeking and thinking about their moves after the catch..but it happens..Our guys don’t drop anymore than any other teams receivers…I think the fact we have two guys posting way over 1000 yards means they much be catching something…and most of them..
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I'm not complaining about it
It just shows that drops are a mental thing most of the time. I loved that SS12 had decent hands but hated that he fell down after every catch. I’ll take the explosivness with a few bonehead plays we get now.
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Jan 12, 2012 1:05 PM EST up reply actions
Yes I agree...
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No you don't
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stop lying
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Jan 12, 2012 1:10 PM EST up reply actions
I can't stop now!
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Wow PTD1.
I can’t say that we have the more explosive receivers.
What up with MM. He hasn’t been in the spotlight or played much due to the injuries that he has been dealing with. But last Sunday showed just how dangerous he is when his head is in the game. I will admit that I had forgotten about him in light of the emergence of Victor Cruz and all but I won’t say that MM isn’t an explosive receiver when he is clicking on all cylinders.
by LoNJDTechnology on Jan 12, 2012 12:59 PM EST up reply actions
I would stack the Giant receiver corp against any in the NFL
and not feel a bit jealous about another team’s talent. That include TE’s
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by Fester McDougal on Jan 12, 2012 12:38 PM EST reply actions
I'll take
Nick, Cruz, or MM in 1 on 1 coverage against pretty much anyone. We have 3 outstanding receivers, and Ballard is going to be a big play maker in coming seasons, I think.
I want ballard as a second te
I wouldn’t mind if we drafted allen in the first round assuming he’s bpa
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You know what this list makes me realize...
just how short sighted and one dimensional Kevin Gilbride really is.
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by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 12, 2012 12:47 PM EST up reply actions
How so?
I don’t disagree I just wanna how you concluded that
by The Cole Train on Jan 12, 2012 12:52 PM EST up reply actions
Look at the games played:
Jones – 16
Finley – 16
Nelson – 16
Driver – 16
Jennings – 13
Cruz – 16 (but let’s be honestly he didn’t play much wk 1-2)
Nicks – 15
Manningham – 12
Ballard – 14
GB has all their WR’s available everyweek and USES them.
the Giants didn’t….and still didn’t get any mileage outta Barden, and didn’t get anything outta Cruz until Hixon was on IR. Or Beckum.
Rodgers and McCarthy know how to run a passing offense
Fire Fewell
Don't blame KG that philosophy stems from our head coach
They deal with mistakes and spread the snaps around to try to create mismatches
We want to use the most polished guys that can be relied on to make the right reads and run the right routes
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
Football - It's Beyond an Addiction, It's a Way of Life.
by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
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Our young receivers are really young
There’s have been around for a while and have a better feel for the game. It would be nice to see Barden, Beckum, Jernigan and any of the other young’uns getting a bigger role to play. Eli has really really tried with Barden the last half of the season, it just isn’t working yet.
But your point has some validity. New Orleans and Green Bay have a wider selection of targets that they are using than we do. Hopefully that expands next year,
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by Spider Lockhart on Jan 12, 2012 1:08 PM EST up reply actions
Looks like you might be innovating the coachless team
Fire Fewell
Fire Quinn
Fire KG
Fire TC
Remove the chains !!
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by Spider Lockhart on Jan 12, 2012 1:18 PM EST up reply actions
Whew
Gotta give the poor old guy someone to lean on. He has a bad knee.
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by Spider Lockhart on Jan 12, 2012 1:19 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Whether or not ti's TC or Killdrive
thing is we have talent in Barden and JJ12 who barely get a chance.
by The Cole Train on Jan 12, 2012 1:26 PM EST up reply actions
How do we know that?
Would be interested to know based on what information either of them have NFL talent? Maybe they do, but not sure that we have any hard evidence yet.
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by Spider Lockhart on Jan 12, 2012 1:33 PM EST up reply actions
Sorry this doesn't make any sense to me...
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Your saying KG and Eli don't know how to run a passing offense?!?..Pass me the bong..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
they do...
with 2 #1 WRs.
it’s a credit to our players, not our system.
MM could have had a much better season, in spite of only playing 12 games IMO.
they also thought Hixon > Cruz (which is a personnel decision made by the coaches).
Barden and Beckum continue to go un used.
FYI…I left the bong at home! they frown upon that here at my job (what’s the world coming to)
Fire Fewell
Hahaha!!yeah not a good work thing!!!
MM had a decent year..certainly not his best…but him playing 12 games doesn’t equate to him being 100% in alot of those he did play..and so far, he’s coming up huge in the playoffs so far..Everybody raves about the perfect throw by Eli, which it was..but that is the hardest catch a receiver can ever make and maintain focus on where he is in the endzone…and that catch he made on the sideline was also a work of art..MM is back..I said it the week leading up to the Falcon game and I’ll say it again..He’s going to be huge this week…I don’t care about his regular season numbers were..I care about his playoff contributions..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
I just think it boils down to offensive philosophy
GB knows they’re not a great running team (yet they don’t abandon it).
they spread the field, and tthey let their star (Rodgers) act like a star, picking and choosing who’s open
I know we’ve been dinged but I have faith in our guys….when you look at their combined #s you can see that Driver, Jones, and Cobb aren’t world beaters….but combined they 1400 yards and 14 TDs.
that’s a great job IMO of coachign and a QB spreading it around….because his OC allows him.
Fire Fewell
The Giants use this formula too. Don't they?
GB knows they’re not a great running team (yet they don’t abandon it).
they spread the field, and tthey let their star (Rodgers) act like a star, picking and choosing who’s open
by LoNJDTechnology on Jan 12, 2012 1:34 PM EST up reply actions
No doubt
Green Bay and New Orleans are the cream of the NFL offenses, Certainly no shame in being slightly behind them. What we can say is, good thing management decided 4 years ago to try and catch up.
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by Spider Lockhart on Jan 12, 2012 1:35 PM EST up reply actions
Agreed Bobbi. I am a big Cruz fan but I must admit that I think that was MM best game this year.
by LoNJDTechnology on Jan 12, 2012 1:35 PM EST up reply actions
Yes I am a fan of all three of them, actually...It's one of the best trios in the league..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
A grain of truth to this
AR quicker in his progressions from receiver to receiver. That’s why more of his receivers have more catches. Eli, believe it or not, may be the more accurate passer, b/c our guys dont get the separation GB’s guys do. So Eli has to thread the needle at times and really place the ball in a restricted area. AR has the ability to scan his receivers so quickly, he finds the open guy. But he is also deadly accurate.
DavebrownNOT
Curious as to where that comment comes from
What is it in the list that makes KG seem one-dimensional ? (Not saying he doesn’t have that tendency, just trying to understand what triggered the comment)
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by Spider Lockhart on Jan 12, 2012 12:52 PM EST up reply actions
It came from outer space...If anything McCarthy is one dimensional..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
yup....15 and One Dimensional.
Fire Fewell
by andiamo708 on Jan 12, 2012 1:12 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
zing!
I suppose that means Belichik was 18 and One dimensional with that pass happy 2007 world-beating, record-breaking Pats offense
by Step up and make big plays on Jan 12, 2012 1:16 PM EST up reply actions
alls i'm saying is...
Beckum, JJ, and Barden wouldn’t rot in his offense.
and they run for 98 yards per game which is better than us.
Fire Fewell
Touche!!..Excellent comebacker..haha!!
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Best comebacker I received this year..therefore....REC'D!!!..Haha
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Well, it is only 12 days old
I got a GIF for that!
by Fester McDougal on Jan 12, 2012 1:24 PM EST up reply actions
Sombody help me make Andia'c 15 and One Dimensional green please..
That’s a classic..haha
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Thanks bud!
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
No problem defending the quality of our WR's vs Philly, but......
GB has the edge in experience
Driver ` 13 years Manningham 4
Jennings 6 years Nicks 3
Jones 5 years Cruz 2
Nelson 4 years ???? ?
Finley 4 years Ballard 2
But our guys are juuuuuuuust starting to ripen. Today they have the edge. In three years if they all get resigned?
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by Spider Lockhart on Jan 12, 2012 12:50 PM EST reply actions
TC has been coaching them up about the need to shower on a daily basis
I got a GIF for that!
by Fester McDougal on Jan 12, 2012 12:53 PM EST up reply actions
Before or after the game?
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by Spider Lockhart on Jan 12, 2012 12:55 PM EST up reply actions
That depends on when Ashley Fox
is showing up.
I got a GIF for that!
by Fester McDougal on Jan 12, 2012 12:57 PM EST up reply actions
good news
Amani (the real one, not me) has a great feeling about this game
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Jan 12, 2012 12:51 PM EST reply actions
I'll take Amani's vote...Yes sir..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
I wish he was playing.
A win would be all but gauranteed. :-)
by LoNJDTechnology on Jan 12, 2012 1:36 PM EST up reply actions
what's striking in the comparison
is the disparity in TD receptions.
each of their guys has like twice as many as ours.
Might have something to do
with the play calling in the red zone?
BINGO!!!..You nailed it...
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Our receivers have much cooler names.
Be it OptiNicks Prime or Nicks for Six.
or
Cruzing into the endzone or Cruz Missile.
or
Just the ability to say Manning to Manningham
All the Green receivers have is a lot of J’s
aahmmmm
Cruz Missile …. Tomahawk
I got a GIF for that!
by Fester McDougal on Jan 12, 2012 1:04 PM EST up reply actions
Jumpy, but not scittish
I got a GIF for that!
by Fester McDougal on Jan 12, 2012 1:26 PM EST up reply actions
Damn Russian Vodka Mig Fighters...
Takes a whole chamber of bullets to shoot them down…and then there’s roadkill that covers a 5 square mile area…
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
The USSR AF believed in the flying tank
Get to the target was what counted, not getting home again
I got a GIF for that!
by Fester McDougal on Jan 12, 2012 1:34 PM EST up reply actions
I used to love screwing around with their pilots...
Assholes always tried to lock in on us…pffffffffffffffttttttttt!!!..Nothing doing..haha !!..bye bye Vladimir !!!
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
us vs them
I like our receivers….they may be a bit deeper….but that’s because we haven’t used Barden or JJ12 much
Barden
I was excited when we drafted him, but he looks lost out there. He appears to have difficulty getting off the line in press coverage and looks slow in his routes. I hope he improves!
by Giant Ken on Jan 12, 2012 1:14 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
he looked good in his first game at the Pats this year
after that…. sigh
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Jan 12, 2012 1:16 PM EST up reply actions
Cant use him
If hes not good enough
by Giant Ken on Jan 12, 2012 1:18 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
therefore
he can’t get better if he’s not good enough?
"Oh sir, the Giants of New York took on the Packers of Green Bay. And in the end, the Giants triumphed by kicking an oblong ball made of pigskin through a big "H". It was a most ripping victory."
Maybe not
He was inactive fot many gamed. He came from a smaller school playing lower level talent,.maybe he ll never be good enough. If he was capable of contributing, TC would have him active.
by Giant Ken on Jan 12, 2012 1:28 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Barden dominated Wisconsin
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
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by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16
I don't remember playing them
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by Spider Lockhart on Jan 12, 2012 1:49 PM EST up reply actions
We lost in week 13
And we play em again this weekend
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
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by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
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I thought Green Bay was in Wyoming?
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by Spider Lockhart on Jan 12, 2012 2:31 PM EST up reply actions
I was under the impression it was in Toronto..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Dont insult the Canadians that way.
I got a GIF for that!
by Fester McDougal on Jan 12, 2012 2:40 PM EST up reply actions
that's a possibility
he’s shown flashes. my question is can he be consistent enough? I guess if we’re still asking these questions, it can’t be a good thing for the longevity of The Pharoah’s career in NY ny.
"Oh sir, the Giants of New York took on the Packers of Green Bay. And in the end, the Giants triumphed by kicking an oblong ball made of pigskin through a big "H". It was a most ripping victory."
Can't know if he's good enough without using him
Exhibit A – Victor Cruz
One dropped pass did not equal failure
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
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by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
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I think Eli has been trying
They have thrown to him more over the second half of the season than his catches have merited so far
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by Spider Lockhart on Jan 12, 2012 1:41 PM EST up reply actions
He gets few few snaps
This is just a mythology that he’s had an opportunity
I’m looking for him every week
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
Football - It's Beyond an Addiction, It's a Way of Life.
by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
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Here from KFFL
Barden 19 targets, compare that to Danny Ware 38 targets
He got 5 against the Jets, I think on one or two occasions when he was being defended by Revis. So I’d say something is fishy there. You barely use someone, and then ask them to take on Revis?
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
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by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
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Nice way to tie up Revis
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by Spider Lockhart on Jan 12, 2012 2:33 PM EST up reply actions
If it only led to more complete passes.
9
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
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by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
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Cruz
Lit it up against pro-level talent last pre-season. He showed exactly what we see now. Barden hasnt shown anywhere near that level of ability. There’s no.guarantee that Barden will make it. This isnt HS, you cant just throw him out there and hope he improves! It’s next man up in the pros, get it done or goodbye.
by Giant Ken on Jan 12, 2012 1:47 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
You might want to read Eli's transcript from yesterday
He says that Victor made a few plays in preseason and went on IR, he had no idea what he would do. You also forget that Cruz got benched after game 1 and would have never seen the field if not for injuries to Hixon and Manningham.
It’s opportunity that makes the day. Given the scant targets, what we know about Barden, is that we don’t know. It’s a failure of the staff to not use him more so that they do know. Why? If he stinks he’s using up a roster spot. If he is good, we’ve squandered a huge red zone target that could have shifted the struggle in games, and could be an absolute weapon in playoff games.
Knowledge is power, and that’s what we don’t have when it comes to Ramses Barden
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
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by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16
truth!
"Oh sir, the Giants of New York took on the Packers of Green Bay. And in the end, the Giants triumphed by kicking an oblong ball made of pigskin through a big "H". It was a most ripping victory."
You have to get better before you are used in the playoffs
Simple as that, in a one and done scenario, you cant have people not doing what they are supposed to.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
I agree 100%
It was the games in season that were squandered.
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
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by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
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Mitch Petrus.....what is he saying?
http://www.nfl.com/videos/new-york-giants/09000d5d825e9dda/Sound-FX-Falcons-vs-Giants
IDK what it was but i found it hilarious.
I recommend everyone watch this.
Petrus sounded as if he was just coming out of the bar at 3am! Great clip!!!!!!
by oldschoolblue64 on Jan 12, 2012 1:22 PM EST up reply actions
He gets excited
very easy
I got a GIF for that!
by Fester McDougal on Jan 12, 2012 1:23 PM EST up reply actions
excitable boy, they all said
by Step up and make big plays on Jan 12, 2012 1:27 PM EST up reply actions
Well, he went down to dinner in his Sunday best
Excitable boy, they all said
And he rubbed the pot roast all over his chest
Excitable boy, they all said
Well, he’s just an excitable boy
He took in the four a.m. show at the Clark
Excitable boy, they all said
And he bit the usherette’s leg in the dark
Excitable boy, they all said
Well, he’s just an excitable boy
He took little Susie to the Junior Prom
Excitable boy, they all said
and he raped her and killed her, then he took her home
Excitable boy, they all said
Well, he’s just an excitable boy
After ten long years they let him out of the Home
Excitable boy, they all said
And he dug up her grave and built a cage with her bones
Excitable boy, they all said
Well, he’s just an excitable boy
I got a GIF for that!
by Fester McDougal on Jan 12, 2012 1:30 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
hahahahahaha and thats a rec
Tony Romo, Michael Vick, and Rex Grossman are down with JPP
Die hard Giants fan since I was 4
J-E-T-S Just-End-The-Season
by JasonPierrePwned on Jan 12, 2012 3:33 PM EST up reply actions
kinda sounds like the waterboy...
"Oh sir, the Giants of New York took on the Packers of Green Bay. And in the end, the Giants triumphed by kicking an oblong ball made of pigskin through a big "H". It was a most ripping victory."
This is great but why does a buisness that makes 9 billion a year
Have the crappiest video player ever?
Why is Tom Quinn still here? I loves me some Coach Clawfin.
They expect you to provide a better one.
That is how you make 9B
I got a GIF for that!
by Fester McDougal on Jan 12, 2012 1:58 PM EST up reply actions
you gotta pay for the HD feed
that’s how they make 9B.
Also, Peppers is a MANIAC. He reminds me of Favreau’s character in the Replacements. I really think he should be our goal line FB
I'm happy yet mad about this
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Jan 12, 2012 1:08 PM EST up reply actions
Happy yeas, but why are you mad? Ware has dominated in an average way over the past few games.
by LoNJDTechnology on Jan 12, 2012 1:09 PM EST up reply actions
I hate the draw play
but I like seeing Ware in the game. He is the best pass-catching/blitz pick-up RB they have. Would like to see him get the check downs more on third downs, especially if the WRs are being covered. Sure I love a huge 30 yard play on 3rd and long but if they can get a 9 yard 1st down on a little toss to DJ, I’ll take it.
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Jan 12, 2012 1:14 PM EST up reply actions
it's not the ply
it’s just how predictable it is
by Cruz Control on Jan 12, 2012 1:16 PM EST up reply actions
yeap thats what I mean
the predictability of it sucks
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Jan 12, 2012 1:17 PM EST up reply actions
2nd and long
if they apssed the first play, 99.999999999999999999999 percent of the time it’ll be a shotgun draw
by The Cole Train on Jan 12, 2012 1:28 PM EST up reply actions
I have seen this a few time this year...
Would like to see him get the check downs more on third downs,
but Ware’s speed has compromised his attempt to successfully of obtianing the first down. I think he should be used closer to the goal line. A dump off pass when all other optoins are not available perhaps?
by LoNJDTechnology on Jan 12, 2012 1:19 PM EST up reply actions
agree with that
apparently in the 49er game, he was wide open for a dump off that could of tied the game (at least got the 1st down) but it never happened
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Jan 12, 2012 1:22 PM EST up reply actions
Dominated in an average way !!!
Excellent
And true.
Our feared shotgun draw is back.
Will surprise the crap our of Green Bay
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by Spider Lockhart on Jan 12, 2012 1:14 PM EST up reply actions
what play did he get concussed on, btw?
by Step up and make big plays on Jan 12, 2012 1:16 PM EST up reply actions
I still don't know. I have been trying to find this out for days.
by LoNJDTechnology on Jan 12, 2012 1:20 PM EST up reply actions
maybe on a kickoff or punt
do they use him on special teams as a blocker or gunner?
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Jan 12, 2012 1:23 PM EST up reply actions
I recall seeing him on the field a few times during STs play.
Not sure if he played STs this past Sunday though.
by LoNJDTechnology on Jan 12, 2012 1:26 PM EST up reply actions
did he get popped on the screen pass on third-and-long early in the game that he took for 15 yds?
by Step up and make big plays on Jan 12, 2012 1:28 PM EST up reply actions
He got up and run off the field as if he didn't have problem.
But it is possible. I was surprised to see him recover so fast after the hit he took in the 2nd Eagles game. The concussion he sustained in that game could have still been lingering…who knows?
by LoNJDTechnology on Jan 12, 2012 1:39 PM EST up reply actions
different styles
The Packers west coast style offense is based on quick passes. I’d like to see a comparison between Eli and Rogers based on average distance of the pass, not including YAC. A much higher percentage of Eli’s throws are in the 15-25 yard range, while Rogers throws more in the 5-15 yard range.
This will naturally give Rogers a higher completion percentage, higher perceived accuracy for Rogers, more receptions for each receivers, etc.
Not saying this means Eli’s better or as good as or not as good as Rogers. It’s just to say they play in significantly different systems.
True
The depth of the Packs receivers, much like the Saints, causes mismatches everywhere and limits the defenses ability to bring pressure, in the form of blitzes. When you watch the Pack or the Saints, you see guys wide open everywhere. Eli needs to be more precise in this offense and defenders get more help.
by Giant Ken on Jan 12, 2012 1:18 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
That is one big sneeze Tomahawk is having
at the top.
I got a GIF for that!
by Fester McDougal on Jan 12, 2012 1:15 PM EST reply actions
Shake it up
let Antrell Rolle run a little wildcat….they’d never expect that
I remember in 2009
when Rolle was on the Cards. They used the wildcat against the Giants and he threw a bomb to a wide open Fitizgerld… luckly it was incomplete.
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Jan 12, 2012 1:26 PM EST up reply actions
And they wouldn't be just a little bit suspicous
to see a safety/LB in the offensive huddle?
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by Spider Lockhart on Jan 12, 2012 1:29 PM EST up reply actions
he must have been too "crunked and swagged out" to complete the pass...
…at the end of the day.
by Step up and make big plays on Jan 12, 2012 1:29 PM EST up reply actions
haha
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Jan 12, 2012 1:43 PM EST up reply actions
Beckum
Green Bay will be all over him…….he’ll have to be a decoy this week
I am pretty sure that is how he is listed on the depth chart
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by Spider Lockhart on Jan 12, 2012 1:26 PM EST up reply actions
hahaha
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Jan 12, 2012 1:44 PM EST up reply actions
Run Travis Run !!
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by Spider Lockhart on Jan 12, 2012 1:46 PM EST up reply actions
The other way Travis
your running the wrong way!
Why is Tom Quinn still here? I loves me some Coach Clawfin.
Fortunately decoys can run either way
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by Spider Lockhart on Jan 12, 2012 1:51 PM EST up reply actions
It's hard to be a decoy from the bench...
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Hahaha!!!!
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
I am absolutely convinced that GB
is not built for cold weather conditions. Their O is built on timing and speed. Both will be disrupted by wind and cold…The Giant D has to tackle through the man and let them hit the hardened ground with a thunk. The 1st half is key. GB will still be trying to shake the rust and Eli thrives when he gets off to a fast start. Have to be up 2-3 scores and the game is ours.
I got a GIF for that!
by Fester McDougal on Jan 12, 2012 1:51 PM EST reply actions
If we are up 2 or 3 scores
I am still not convinced its over. They ain’t dead until all the zeros roll up on the game clock.
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by Spider Lockhart on Jan 12, 2012 1:55 PM EST up reply actions
Oh, agreed
but if we are pounding them into the turf (aka concrete) I think the O folds like a cheap suit. Win the 1st half and the 2nd half will be a much more manegable affair.
I got a GIF for that!
by Fester McDougal on Jan 12, 2012 1:57 PM EST up reply actions
Weather
Last I heard, the weather was suppossed to be pretty good. Has that changed?
by Giant Ken on Jan 12, 2012 2:06 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Tommorrow the high is 23 degrees..the low is 4 degrees..
And kick-off is 4:30…so it most likely be BRRRRRRRRRRRRRR !!!
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
That sounds cold enough to make the field concrete
Okay remember JWill, you can throw your doll on the ground, but you can’t pick her up
I am a fan of Kevin Gilbride and I don't care what you say
by Spider Lockhart on Jan 12, 2012 2:36 PM EST up reply actions
Yes it will be a freezer Sunday evening..
But remember..Salsa is HOT!!!!!
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Have to be up 2-3 scores and the game is ours.
Wee bit easier said than done, my friend. Haha.
Strikeouts are boring- Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.
by CasanovaWong on Jan 12, 2012 2:03 PM EST up reply actions
You may want to look up that info before you type this kind of thing......
Aaron’s numbers are crazy good in cold weather. I just read about them a week or two ago. I’ll try to find a link for info……
Bottom Line
have 1 point more than your opponent when the final whistle blows
If they want
to have a slightly bigger margin of victory, my heart wouldn’t mind.
I am a firm believer in this philosophy
I got a GIF for that!
by Fester McDougal on Jan 12, 2012 2:23 PM EST up reply actions
Although 2-0 is okay too
I am a fan of Kevin Gilbride and I don't care what you say
by Spider Lockhart on Jan 12, 2012 2:39 PM EST up reply actions
I agree with that theory...
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
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