Draft Talk: Mel Kiper Regrades Giants 2011 Draft
by Ed Valentine on Jan 11, 2012 3:59 PM EST
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PrintPersonally, I could go another two months and not talk about the 2012 NFL Draft at all. I know, though, we live in a draft-crazed universe. So, here we go.
ESPN draft guru Mel Kiper today regraded the 2011 NFL Draft, so let's look at his perspective on the Giants. The man with the magic hair gave the Giants a B- when the draft ended, and today dropped that mark slightly to a C. Here is what he said:
Although the Giants have had a very good season based on where they are, it's fair to say the draft hasn't really played a role. Prince Amukamara is seeing significant time now but was out early after a broken foot. He has played a bit better in recent weeks, but it's hard to say at this point whether he projects as more than a solid regular. Marvin Austin was a good value based on talent, but the defensive tackle out of North Carolina got hurt early and hasn't factored in. Jerrel Jernigan hasn't really worked his way into the offense. Greg Jones was a nice value, but he has seen only spot duty thus far. One promising rookie year has come from Henry Hynoski -- but he was an undrafted free agent. There's talent here, but it's still early days, and this class hasn't really had a noticeable effect on the season.
It is actually hard to argue with Kiper here. He forgot to mention linebacker Jacquian Williams, but other than that he is on target.
Need some talk about the 2012 Draft? Here is a look at what some of the early mock drafts are saying about what the Giants might do.
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Giants drafting a LB in the first round? HA
I’ll believe it when I see it.
There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only BLUE WALLS.
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exactly
I think JR sees the letters LB and gets the jitters
The ultimate football chicken & egg argument:
What came first? The great talent or the great scheme?
i fully expect us to take another DE
by The Blood of Eli on Jan 11, 2012 4:26 PM EST up reply actions
unless we get a shot at a nice offensive tackle at the 32nd pick
by The Blood of Eli on Jan 11, 2012 4:27 PM EST up reply actions 5 recs
if Osi's leaving (then again...either way)
Whitney Mercilus or Nick Perry would be good picks. Quinton Coples for some odd reason gets underrated too, if he somehow falls to us that’s a lock.
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im down... i dont know anything about anyone getting drafted this year.... but hey sounds like u do
by The Blood of Eli on Jan 11, 2012 4:33 PM EST up reply actions
Nick Perry....raw, poor pass rushing arsenal, physical freak.
Whitney Mercilus….one year wonder, physical specimen.
I dunno guys, JR usually doesn't go for those types..
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by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 11, 2012 4:37 PM EST up reply actions
JR shops at the Freaknik
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I'm not a fan of Perry, but I like Mercilus.
I really wanted to grab someone like Devin Taylor in the 2nd or 3rd…but alas, he’s going back to school I think.
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by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 11, 2012 4:42 PM EST up reply actions
yea Perry's OK
he’s a little undersized, so he probably doesn’t have much a chance for us.
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wouldn't be odd
He’s played like garbage this year.
He treated UNC’s bowl game like the Probowl… just stand up at the whistle and watch the play unfold.
DO. NOT. WANT.
Mercilus or Ingram on the other hand would be great.
I like ingram. He's a much more athletic Red Bryant
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by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 11, 2012 4:53 PM EST up reply actions
he reminds me of Justin Tuck
Solid athleticism, great motor… and he already plays inside and out.
also on my list of “Wants”:
Mike Martin (DT Michigan). He’s an absolute beast in the gym, and to my eyes, he plays with the same kind of power as Suh. Not as much raw athleticism, but great hustle and heart.
Jared Crick from Nebraska. He’s small for a DT, but he could be a hybrid DE/DT. I think he’s got the fluidity to be an end, but he is an absolutely VIOLENT hitter.
no way he drops to us
Go Giants!
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to you guys who watch college ball...
how’s the TE class this year? I’d really love to find the Mark Bavaro to Ballard’s Howard Cross
sucks. Dwayne Allen is very good, his blocking is a little suspect though. He'll be the top TE pick.
Kyle Rudolph and Jermaine Gresham were both better prospects than anyone in the TE class this year.
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by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 11, 2012 5:00 PM EST up reply actions
only one that comes to mind is jake stoneburner
No doubt a couple more will emerge.
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by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 11, 2012 5:09 PM EST up reply actions
Allen was a blocker first type TE before this year
it changed due to Clemson’s offense, so there’s that. Also Tyler Eiffert’s really, really good.
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Is eifert coming out? I don't remember.
If he is, he’s a nice, big target. Could be Gronk-like if he pans out.
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by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 11, 2012 5:10 PM EST up reply actions
Eiffert was going back and forth, tho I think most recently he said he's going back to Notre Crap
which sucks.
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Yeah. I wasn't sure what he was going to do...
I think we’ll see a bunch of reaching on TEs…given people seeing the success that Gronk, Hernandez, Graham, Finley have had.
Dwayne Allen probably goes late first if I had to guess.
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by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 11, 2012 5:16 PM EST up reply actions
preferably to the Giants
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You'd hear no complaints from me.
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by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 11, 2012 5:16 PM EST up reply actions
6"4 250
excellent speed, routes are ? given the spread O, hands and athleticism are mid-first round caliber. Dude’s the real deal. He’s just kind of a ‘small’ 6"4 250, if that’s even possible.
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I'm just really afraid he'll get the Beckum treatment....
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by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 11, 2012 5:21 PM EST up reply actions
Who is Beckum?
All the Giants should play like Mark Bavaro.
TC, TQ, PF, KG, DD and KMac Must Go!
It is equally worthless when people are always optimistic or always pessimistic. Either way I take their opinion with a pound of salt because I know they only have one setting. I post my own thoughts, not what either side wants to read.
by UnknownJintsFan on Jan 11, 2012 7:45 PM EST up reply actions
the one good thing they've produced in decades
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yeah, pretty much...
Although, I do like Eifert better than Rudolph.
Syracuse has a pretty good one, and Colby Fleener from Stanford isn’t bad. He could be a decent no. 2 behind Ballard, but he NEEDS to add some muscle to his frame to be a complete TE.
Soft hands, good routes, and an adequate blocker, but he just doesn’t scare anybody doing anything.
Coples is a lot like Carlos Dunlap
I wouldn’t want to pass on that again. He’s most likely tired of getting double and triple teamed all year.
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Peeps gonna laugh at me. but I want Donte Paige-Moss.
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by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 11, 2012 4:59 PM EST up reply actions
yeah.
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by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 11, 2012 5:10 PM EST up reply actions
yeah, roundabouts the 4th
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by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 11, 2012 6:34 PM EST up reply actions
Coples skill is not underrated, he's a great talent
It’s his lack of desire and work ethic, teams don’t want that.
Its a bit of his hot and cold motor and a bit of him getting double teamed alot....
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by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 11, 2012 5:47 PM EST up reply actions
Sintim was just as good a prospect for a 4-3 SAM coming out of college. Most people had him going
to the Giants in the first round. And by that token, Von Miller should be a bust too, considering he was basically a similar prospect.
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by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 11, 2012 5:53 PM EST up reply actions
Please
Von Miller was the 2nd pick in the draft. Bad comparison.
Perry Fewell Stinks!
How is it a bad comparison? They both had similar roles and similar skillsets.
Miller was the more athletic and more technically-sound prospect, but other than that they play the same position, he’s prospered as a SAM in the right 4-3 system. Sintim’s been injured for two of the past 3 years and had to transition between two schemes.
Ualtar is blaming JR using the “square peg in round hole” argument when that argument holds no weight considering there are players with similar skillsets that have prospered.
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by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 11, 2012 9:43 PM EST up reply actions
It really doesn't matter whether a kid played a 4-3 or a 3-4..They learn..
It’s the brains and athleticism that counts..I hate it when folks wrap brackets around kids due to the type of defense they played in college..To me that is kind of stupid..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
I think that's JR's thinking to a degree. Obviously you pay attention to what system they were in...
this is especially true with QBs….but those dudes get evaluated completely differently than other positions….but JR has taken peeps that have the best athleticism and ability to make plays.
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by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 11, 2012 9:54 PM EST up reply actions
And they have to have a certain level production
JRs picks almost always have been very productive on field. We shy away from the “he came on as a senior guys.” JPP, short history, but dominant.
It’s wise, college productivity is a very strong indicator of likely pro success. People have already thrown away Greg Jones, but he can easily improve his game with a pro training regimen, and I’ve noticed him on STs. But you can’t teach his field awareness. Same with Sash.
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
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by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
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Yeah. Which is why I mentioned in this post...
http://www.bigblueview.com/2011/4/30/2145959/why-the-new-york-giants-crushed-the-2011-nfl-draft
that we got a nice mix of hard-working, leadership type role players intermixed with athletic freaks. All had, like you said, pretty good production at the college level.
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by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 11, 2012 10:31 PM EST up reply actions
comparing
the #2 pick in the draft to a 2nd round pick.
Miller has made an immediate impact. Sintim has done nothing even before his injuries.
Perry Fewell Stinks!
That wasn't the point. My point was that players with skillsets similar to Sintim
(and yes, Miller is an infinitely better player, but he has similar strengths and weaknesses, ergo similar skillsets) can prosper in a 4-3.
People are pooping on JR for the Sintim pick because they think he couldn’t be successful outside of a 3-4 when nobody knows that…at all. Coughlin never played him in his rookie year, and while he wasn’t completely ready in his 2nd year to take over the starting job from Kiwanuka (who was the starting SAM and should have been considering he was a 1st rounder), and right when Kiwi went down, Sintim went down as well. Then Sintim went down again this year.
Not Sintim’s fault he didn’t get enough playing time. Neither did Linval or Beatty or JPP or anybody not named Hakeem Nicks in recent draft history. Giants don’t operate like that.
So was he a good pick for the Giants? We’ll never know because he didn’t get a fair chance. But I have to say no, because at the end of the day he wasn’t successful due to injury.
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by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 11, 2012 10:22 PM EST up reply actions
So, our grade got lowered because Prince & Marvin got hurt?
and because we didn’t play the guys we drafted…. Brilliant logic.
3 years later. That’s when you can analyze a draft.
i think this is just regarding the impact for this season
in which case this is all true
by The Blood of Eli on Jan 11, 2012 4:09 PM EST up reply actions
I get it
but I can comfortably say we drafted entirely for depth this season, with no intentions of any of these guys seeing much playing time. So, in my mind, we’re being penalized for having most of our starting spots filled. At best, Prince was going to be the 4th corner, Marvin the 3rd or 4th DT, JJ backing up Hixon and all the WRs, Brewer was obviously a project and as far as I’m concerned, anything you find in the 6th or 7th is a bonus to begin with.
Also, how do we get “credit” for Hynoski…. when we didn’t draft him. I’m just saying it’s a faulty process, a stupid argument, and Mel Kiper sucks.
he had to write something
they don’t pay him for his looks! hehe
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yeah
God-forbid he do something like analyze the just completed college bowl season, or the East-West game upcoming, or, the 2008 draft, or hair products, or something useful
he definitely looks like he knows a thing or two about hair products
thats for sure
by The Blood of Eli on Jan 11, 2012 4:34 PM EST up reply actions
How to Look Like A Soprano
by Mel Kiper, Jr.
Yes, I am a Giants fan. Now that we got that out of the way....
IMPEACH DOLAN!!!!
The Big Boy Cometh....Team Jacobs
Marines say Oorah; BBVer's say SUAMBP! say it with me - Suuaahmbp!!!!
He's from Blatimore
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by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
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This draft had almost 0 impact
Sure the LBs have played some, but they haven’t had a lot of impact when they played. Will that change down the road? Maybe, but remember in 07 when Reese drafted a bunch of guys that helped with the super bowl run. That is really his calling card, and what people love him for. In the NFL these days you don’t wait 3 years for impact. FA and the money involved has changed that. Look how many coaches get fired after 1-2 years now. There has to be almost immediate impact and change or it is to late.
ok....
guys having an impact on the playoff run…. Hynoski, Prince and JWill for starters, Sash, Paysinger and Jones on ST, Scott & Jernigan COULD contribute on ST before it’s over, or even on O if given the chance. Herz is hurt, Austin’s IR’d, Brewer hasn’t been active all season or needed to be. To me, a grade should be based on expectations of contribution. IMO, that contribution is as much or more than anyone could have expected, injuries excepting.
The difference between ‘07 and now is the number of available, active roster spots. The guys this year aren’t getting the reps because there are too many #s in front of them, not so much because of ability or performance, that is my point.
Hynoski, not a draft pick so he doesn’t really help make the draft have an impact.
Prince had more impact in helping to lose a game then to help win a game.
The Giants special teams isn’t great and isn’t really good so lots of impact there.
Ok I'll play
So our draft isnt impactful because we have a very good team with almost every position filled by a quality vet. It wasn’t that long at that Beatty was an absolute Bust. Manningham would never see the field.
Good teams shouldn’t need to rush rookies. That’s not saying that you can’t find one to explode year one, but JPP should be enough to convince you that patience is a virtue.
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
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by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16
Amukamara played well last week
the LBs too. And we’re in the midst of the playoffs now, still time for guys like Mook to make an impact.
And who cares what these ignorant teams are doing firing coaches after 1-2 years? Does it make you wonder why its always the same few teams recycling coaches every few years? Continuity is how you build an organization.
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Exactly
Especially when the coach has spent alot of your money on a QB….you have to give him time.
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But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
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Draft, immediate impact, fire coach in 1 year
Me no likey
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by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16
Talking about the Giants 2012 today
is like talking about the Jets next superbowl victory parade.
DavebrownNOT
by marfar on Jan 11, 2012 4:07 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
Now that is hardly fair
The 2012 draft will get here eventually, as for the Jets next Super Bowl parade…
by mypisceannature on Jan 11, 2012 9:42 PM EST up reply actions
yeah... this is regrading the impact they had this season? odd
First off, he forgets the guy who has had the largest impact in JWill… a guy most “experts” thought was undraftable. Also, how do you knock Reese for Prince and Austin getting hurt in the preseason?
He also forgot to mention Herzlich who has some potential as well and at the very least was a solid special teamer. And yes, I count UDFA’s in draft grades because they are very closely related to scouting/grading of players and strategy of drafting.
I’d still give the giants draft a B+ with a huge (and obvious) wait 2-3 more years to evaluate players caveat.
Some drafts are easy to rate...a few years out
I think grading a draft within the first year unless you had a high 1st round choice is unfair. As for Reese’s aversion to LBs will eventually doom the defense. I am not sure what it will take, but seeing a loss to NO through the ground, and air. Possibly owners may say something???
by Exiled in Missouri on Jan 11, 2012 5:04 PM EST up reply actions
if we are grading for impact on the 2011 season
C is generous. J Will is the ONLY person that contributed, and its not like he was spectacular.
by The Blood of Eli on Jan 11, 2012 4:10 PM EST reply actions
His analysis is completely useless. How can you go about doing an analysis and completely
forget about the dude who actually did something outside of ST…JWill?
Just because you didn’t know about him before the draft doesn’t mean you ignore him, Mel. Grading the 2011 draft at this point is still a little ludicrous as is, but I guess its more than him twiddling his thumbs.
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by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 11, 2012 4:11 PM EST reply actions
I knew you and Rors were gonna be completely PO'd
hehe
The ultimate football chicken & egg argument:
What came first? The great talent or the great scheme?
Not pissed off. I'd say his grades are fair, if he were going to do them, I don't mind the C grade right now.
But just saying that its ludicrous to put that up because it will definitely change. He just put it up to garner hits.
I’m a little annoyed that JWill’s 78 tackles didn’t get even a passing mention.
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by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 11, 2012 4:31 PM EST up reply actions
Ugh he's grading method is asinine
So if we sucked like a hunts point hooker, and we got 7 starters helping us go from 3-13 to 6-10 it would have been a great draft?
What he should have said was, top team, always competitive few needs, hard for rookies to make an impact unless injury clears the way, INC.
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
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by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
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maybe we should give him some lee-way on JWill
he hasn’t be a HUGE part of the giants success or problems, just a role player and promising rookie. AND Kiper does grade EVERY NFL team as well as scout EVERY current college program. Thats a lot of stuff to do, I wouldn’t necessarily expect him to have noticed JWill’s performance.
meh, I don’t give him that much credit. Him and McShay have a bunch of writers. I remember McShay giving a quick scouting report on, I think it was Jerel Worthy…..he’s a DT from MSU and he’s like 315 lbs.
He had a typo on there that accidentally put in 280 lbs or something, and in his “analysis” he said that Worthy doesn’t have the bulk to be a DT in the league. Like seriously? This dude is a Linval type guy, fat…..and McShay looks at the weight and puts some garbage up.
I respect what they do, but there’s a ton of people who do the same thing. MockingtheDraft is a big site devoted just to that. Given that JWill is the only rookie to get significant snaps on either offense or defense, he should definitely be mentioned. He’s had 78 tackles and a sack, those are noteworthy numbers for a rookie on a team that hasn’t had much rookie contribution this year.
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by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 11, 2012 4:29 PM EST up reply actions
Williams has played a lot
and while he’s had his downs and rookie mistakes, he’s also made big plays. He’s looked a lot better now that Boley’s healthy and telling him where to line up and do what he do.
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I'm psyched about Marvin Austin.
If he can contribute – and I think he’ll be really fired up – it’d be like finding a $100 bill in our pocket.
As for this draft, we have a ton of needs, but none of them are of the OMG, We’re Screwed – variety. So I’ll be pretty happy with the BPA at whatever position. I guess I’d go:
OL – Kareem’s getting old
LB – just because
RB – Yep.
DB – No panic; Prince is gonna be ok
DE – we’ll probably lose Osi
DT – Late-round steal?
TE – The Beckum Experiment needs to end
QB – Maybe develop some kid?
11/1/2010
hasn't it been awhile since he played football?
Won’t it be a couple of seasons without football when he comes back? I would hold off on the expectations. Sure he might be great, but most likely he will be on the bench are rarely see the field. That is pretty much the Giant way with young guys anyway.
he'll probably redshirt like Linval...
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by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 11, 2012 5:55 PM EST up reply actions
I predict Austin will press for snaps from Canty by the end of. 2012 beginning of 2013
That was one big man with a sick quick first step, in preseason before he got hurt the guys around him looked like they were in slo mo
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
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by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16
Probably take the snaps Rocky got this year
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
Yes
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
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by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16
true
but the dude is really athletic for his size. Pure athletic ability can make up for a lot of technique.
May Doug Marrone bless you and keep you.
Good assesment by Kiper
The rookie class hasnt made much of an impact this year, what do you what him to say?
The ultimate football chicken & egg argument:
What came first? The great talent or the great scheme?
that they should all go to the pro bowl apparently
World Series attitude, champagne bottle life, nothing every changes so tonight is like tomorrow night.
yes, cuz that's what everyone's saying
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practice what you preach
World Series attitude, champagne bottle life, nothing every changes so tonight is like tomorrow night.
always do
now if we could convince you to do the same….
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lol not at all
why don’t you be a dick to everyone on MTD again? its fun watching yourself get pissed at every mock because they don’t follow the giants 24 hours a day.
World Series attitude, champagne bottle life, nothing every changes so tonight is like tomorrow night.
no problem
glad you’re having fun. And while you’re at it, lets go make something up about everyone on the board and act like its the truth.
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http://www.mockingthedraft.com/2012/1/9/2694588/1-round-nfl-mock-draft#88150328
Oh its the truth
World Series attitude, champagne bottle life, nothing every changes so tonight is like tomorrow night.
clearly I and everyone at BBV went over there and said every Giants pick belongs in the Pro Bowl
open and shut case.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
no, sir i was referring to the MTD comment above.
the first statement I made was a mocking statement because of the crying about Kiper.
World Series attitude, champagne bottle life, nothing every changes so tonight is like tomorrow night.
Agreed... but I would rather wait till the season is over at least.
I mean hell, what if Prince grabs a couple picks and return them for TD against Green Bay…
time to re-evaluate, the re-evaluation?
the season is over
Im not an Insider subscriber, but my guess is that he is using the regular season as a guide
The ultimate football chicken & egg argument:
What came first? The great talent or the great scheme?
I guess Kiper's got nothing better to do
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
and whoever picks Dont'a Hightower to the Giants has no clue
Hightower’s nickname for Brandon Spikes is “Usain Bolt”. Dude’s slower then snail poop.
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is snail poop slower than the actual snail?
by The Blood of Eli on Jan 11, 2012 4:29 PM EST up reply actions
does snail poop actually move?
that would be news to me along to the rest of the universe
The ultimate football chicken & egg argument:
What came first? The great talent or the great scheme?
well that depends
are we talking about the act of pooping or the end result
by The Blood of Eli on Jan 11, 2012 4:32 PM EST up reply actions
Runny poop
Can really move on you…
Die hard Giants fan since wide Right! I was 5...
I'm down wit JPP
Yea you know me
Win Ugly.
-Eli Manning for MVP
hasnt brandon spikes
been a monster for the Pats tho? plays on a terrible D obviously, but i thought i remember hearing about how good hes been
by Plaxico Burress on Jan 11, 2012 4:36 PM EST up reply actions
he's been a liability when teams pass against them
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
Plays at a good speed though for a 34 scheme
Powerful young man and very instinctive…. could be a SAM in a 43.
Have you seen Spikes play?? he doesnt play slow at all.
I wouldnt want Hightower for us either though.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
Have enough talent at LB coming back next year.
Need to draft an OL
by GiantFaninColorado on Jan 11, 2012 4:23 PM EST reply actions
really...
I am not sold…not sure if the late rounders made a big impact except to fill holes…perhaps they may be okay. JW has had the most impact.
by Exiled in Missouri on Jan 11, 2012 5:06 PM EST up reply actions
crazy draft year...
the top picks get hurt or don’t play
and the 6th rounders and the UDFA make a big impact
Fire Fewell
Two things:
A. Come back in 3 or 4 years when you can actually grade a draft class.
2. I’m pretty sure the season isn’t over, plenty of time for these rooks to make more of an impact (on a bigger stage no less). So Mel, feel free to go grade the Eagles draft.
"The saddest thing in life is wasted talent"
I mean just for the fact that Mel Kiper didn't talk about JWill
Makes him completely oblivious. He is a talking windbag and personally I could give a rats ass what he thinks about our draft, the draft in general, or college recruits. I could do his job better by throwing darts at names randomly selected out of a hat.
Die hard Giants fan since wide Right! I was 5...
I'm down wit JPP
Yea you know me
Win Ugly.
-Eli Manning for MVP
Best player available
Other than a QB that is :)
Blue is the color of melancholy and honesty
Green is the color of inexperience, envy and nausea.
espnsucks
That is all.
by Robin's-meats-and-vegetables on Jan 11, 2012 4:46 PM EST via mobile reply actions
same
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by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 11, 2012 4:53 PM EST up reply actions
+1
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Jan 11, 2012 5:05 PM EST up reply actions
Ditto
Die hard Giants fan since wide Right! I was 5...
I'm down wit JPP
Yea you know me
Win Ugly.
-Eli Manning for MVP
I agree
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
Football - It's Beyond an Addiction, It's a Way of Life.
by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16
I'll say it for the tenth time
The Jernigan pick has had me annoyed from day one. there were some good running backs available, decent o-linemen,
Well to be fair a lot of last years draft addressed the glaring lack of speed on ST
Die hard Giants fan since wide Right! I was 5...
I'm down wit JPP
Yea you know me
Win Ugly.
-Eli Manning for MVP
oh
so thats why Will Blackmon is returning kicks now hmmmm?
The ultimate football chicken & egg argument:
What came first? The great talent or the great scheme?
by rcnt123 on Jan 11, 2012 4:55 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Tom has always felt more comfortable with vets
If you don’t know that by now then you never will. The Giants don’t need big contributions from the rookies. This is because the Giants have good starters and good depth, it’s how we survived all those injuries. Rookies are meant to be groomed and to learn the positions they need to excel in the NFL. Not something that happens in your first year as a Giant..
Die hard Giants fan since wide Right! I was 5...
I'm down wit JPP
Yea you know me
Win Ugly.
-Eli Manning for MVP
Starting and paying off that is..
Die hard Giants fan since wide Right! I was 5...
I'm down wit JPP
Yea you know me
Win Ugly.
-Eli Manning for MVP
...which JR addressed later on
with guys who wouldn’t have raised an eyebrow if they went in the 3rd (IE: Brewer and Scott… Hell, Scott was actually getting some first-round buzz after his 40.)
JJ12 is going to deliver. Its just unrealistic to expect him to come from a program like Troy to Killdrive’s offense (which is tough on WR’s anyway), without any offseason, and an abbreviated preseason.
JJ WAS A WASTE! JJ WAS A WASTE!
There, I said it. I feel better.
by Maryland Fan on Jan 11, 2012 5:58 PM EST up reply actions
Victor Cruz...
Die hard Giants fan since wide Right! I was 5...
I'm down wit JPP
Yea you know me
Win Ugly.
-Eli Manning for MVP
Next year youre gonna take your Smith 12 and tape Jernigan over it
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
Football - It's Beyond an Addiction, It's a Way of Life.
by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16
no
cause we will get smith back for dirt cheap…he was a great security blanket for eli that i personally would not mind getting back
by bistroburrito on Jan 11, 2012 9:46 PM EST up reply actions
Smith would be our #4
But that guy has to play STs according to TC, JJ is a much better fit because of his return ability. I really don’t see a future for SS here.
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
Football - It's Beyond an Addiction, It's a Way of Life.
by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16
probably would be 3 after ham leaves
Go Giants!
Arguing on the internet is like running in the Special Olympics. Even if you win, you're still retarded.
You really think that they will not try to keep Manningham?
This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.
Unless he has some kind of remarkable improvement he might be fifth behind JJ and Barden
Even without MM
I’d bring him in for a tryout if he can’t find a team (not unlikely), but who are you bumping for a smallish, slowish, possession WR who has 0 YAC and is an injury risk.
Now if you can get 2009 SS12 great, but my DeLorean is still in the shop.
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
Football - It's Beyond an Addiction, It's a Way of Life.
by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16
I for one don't want Smith back
Dude is just a possession type of receiver who isn’t known for big plays, he also contributed to a lot of tipped INTs, and his knee is iffy. Why even waste the time and money on him, just find a better replacement for Manningham
by PaulieTheDon1 on Jan 12, 2012 1:13 PM EST up reply actions
I did that with my Shockey jersey....now I have a CRUZZZZZZZ jersey.
I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.
by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 11, 2012 9:55 PM EST up reply actions
with that many Z's?
lol
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Jan 11, 2012 10:05 PM EST up reply actions
I got overzealous with my sharpie
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by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 11, 2012 10:08 PM EST up reply actions
fair enough
I do have a SS12 jersey. I have a good feeling on JJ12, so there may be some editing done on it in the future.
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Jan 11, 2012 10:11 PM EST up reply actions
I got a lovely red #27
that I ripped the nameplate off. I pretend it’s my Jacobs jersey now. I also pretend I can still wear a M jersey. ’nuff said.
lol nice
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by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 11, 2012 10:22 PM EST up reply actions
Somebody suggested I hold off on buying a Cruz and JPP jersey
Because the uniform design changes next year?…
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
ehhh
It’s changing from Reebok to Nike…how much Nike decides to change the logo is undetermined right now….
I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.
by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 11, 2012 11:10 PM EST up reply actions
I think Nike will radically change the uni's
I’m not sure they’ll be better, but I’m expecting a statement
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
Football - It's Beyond an Addiction, It's a Way of Life.
by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16
Well thanks I guess I'll wait then..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
haha not trying to convince you either way!
I figure if you wait though, the old designs will probably be cheaper if you don’t like the new ones
I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.
by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 11, 2012 11:14 PM EST up reply actions
isn't it up to the team to change to design? Like colors, patterns, etc.
if so, I doubt the Giant ones will look any different. Last time they changed was 2005 and 200o before that. It wasn’t a big leap either
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Jan 11, 2012 11:14 PM EST up reply actions
Nike needs to get permission from individual teams...yes...
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by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 11, 2012 11:18 PM EST up reply actions
cool thanks
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Jan 11, 2012 11:24 PM EST up reply actions
I think every team will have plain janes
But I also expect something like those Oregon uni’s.
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
Football - It's Beyond an Addiction, It's a Way of Life.
by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16
Antrel Rolle
“I don’t put any opponents on a pedestal. They have a lot of weapons and are an awesome opponent. But then again so are we.”
I love it.
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by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 11, 2012 4:54 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Now he has a future in TV
NFL network, just turn him loose in the locker room
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
Football - It's Beyond an Addiction, It's a Way of Life.
by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16
I'm sure he's planning something
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by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 11, 2012 9:45 PM EST up reply actions
BBI is JR your uncle?
Man, you are passionate about him!
I think he’s good, not great, but I hope this season has opened his eyes – Eli is great, so we need to support him.
by Giant Ken on Jan 11, 2012 5:05 PM EST via mobile reply actions
BBI is JR your uncle?
Man, you are passionate about him!
I think he’s good, not great, but I hope this season has opened his eyes – Eli is great, so we need to support him.
by Giant Ken on Jan 11, 2012 5:05 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Nah, he's my cousin. hehe
I’m 99% sure he’s great. You saw the talent on display vs ATL :). He isn’t responsible for motivation or schemes. Fewell changed his ways, made adjustments, and the defense prospered. I dunno what Coughlin did, but it seems to be working.
I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.
by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 11, 2012 5:11 PM EST up reply actions
that's not to say he's perfect...because he's not.
But relative to other GMs, he’s pretty damn good.
I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.
by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 11, 2012 5:12 PM EST up reply actions
Some good, some bad, but that's the job!
Cruz and Ballard, along with Eli, have, in my opinion, saved his butt. I’m surprised that AB has been able to play through his foot issues, so I just hope that he addresses that early!
I want to see some big time speed out of the RB position, so I jump out of my chair on screen passes like I do when Eli throws deep!
by Giant Ken on Jan 11, 2012 5:17 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Da'Rell Scott!
He’ll be in there once he figures out how to block somebody…
I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.
by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 11, 2012 5:22 PM EST up reply actions
and hang on to the ball
The ultimate football chicken & egg argument:
What came first? The great talent or the great scheme?
that too haha
If Ahmad figured it out, hopefully he can too
I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.
by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 11, 2012 5:25 PM EST up reply actions
Hes not bad, not great
But the bigger concern with him is the two concussions he s already had with limited playing time. That concerns me!
by Giant Ken on Jan 11, 2012 5:25 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
he's had two concussions???
I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.
by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 11, 2012 5:29 PM EST up reply actions
am I having a brain fart? when did he get a concussion?
I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.
by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 11, 2012 5:30 PM EST up reply actions
Not you, me
Ware had the concussions!
by Giant Ken on Jan 11, 2012 5:34 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
oh ok, yeah, haha
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by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 11, 2012 5:40 PM EST up reply actions
oh ok, yeah, haha
I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.
by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 11, 2012 5:40 PM EST up reply actions
I'm 90% sure JR is great
But he has to do it for another 5-7 years, we need to get some more hardware, then I’ll be sure
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
Football - It's Beyond an Addiction, It's a Way of Life.
by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16
We took the "best" team in the league to the very end. We are in the playoffs....and have
just shut out another good team. The talent is there, and that’s on JR. Compare that to good coaches like Shanahan….the dude can coach, anybody saying he can’t is fooling themselves…he won two superbowls…..but he’s got inferior talent, and that’s on Dan Snyder/Vinny Cerato/Bruce Allen.
There’s your difference. There’s a reason we’ve been at or over 0.500 for the past decade (2004 was our last under 0.500 year). Good talent influx with good coaching. Tom’s been a bit inconsistent, but JR has provided talent….and while he isn’t perfect….looking at the safety situation a few years back, and perhaps the OL situation right now….he’s been a massive success compared to 95% of the other GMs out there.
I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.
by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 11, 2012 9:49 PM EST up reply actions
Snyder sold his soul to the company store with the Haynesworth
deal..Shanahan walked into a pickle..But you can see the progress already..They need a QB..and some depth..then they’ll be back..Of course they always are a pain in our ass…
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
yeah...they recently changed their front office, and now its starting to pay dividends
Just used that example to show the difference between good GM’ing and good coaching.
I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.
by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 11, 2012 10:02 PM EST up reply actions
The Redskins don't have quality depth IMO
Die hard Giants fan since wide Right! I was 5...
I'm down wit JPP
Yea you know me
Win Ugly.
-Eli Manning for MVP
IMO Shanny is brilliant but also an egotist
Dangerous combo, you can walk right off the life that way
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
Football - It's Beyond an Addiction, It's a Way of Life.
by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16
I like Lamar Miller, Miami RB, 1st
And one of the TEs, clemson or stanford in 2nd.
Miller is crazy fast.
by Giant Ken on Jan 11, 2012 5:11 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I'd love to get Lamar.
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by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 11, 2012 5:12 PM EST up reply actions
OT: My Giants Mock
1) Vontaze Bufict ILB (BPA finally meets a need).
2) Steven Gilmore CB (BPA) (Has First round talent , his tape is Way to inconsistent for that talent.)
3) Chandler Jones DE (BPA , Jerry’s token mid round Project)
4) Ryan Miller OG/RT (BPA meets need,)
5) Marcus Forston DT (BPA) (could go way higher but he has some major injury concerns)
5) Turmaine Johnson CB (BPA) (could Also go higher, but has Character concerns Also from a Small school.Compensatory pick).
6) LaDarius Green TE (BPA)
7) George IIoka FS/SS (BPA)
This is what my latest Giants mock draft looks like.****(Pre-Combined)****
Thoughts?
love to get Vontaze
The ultimate football chicken & egg argument:
What came first? The great talent or the great scheme?
love it all except Burfict, who stinks and is an idiot.
tho I think Green, Jones and Gilmore go at least a round earlier. Green probably in the top 3 rounds, 6"6 TEs that run like that aren’t going to last that far in the draft anymore no matter what school they go to.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
I'd agree with this ^^^^
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by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 11, 2012 5:16 PM EST up reply actions
LOL
I love the BPA! You have a better crystal ball than I do!!!!
by Giant Ken on Jan 11, 2012 5:19 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Nah all opinions.
who knows what the real board looks like…
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by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 11, 2012 5:23 PM EST up reply actions
JR's your Cuz and you don't get a peek
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
Football - It's Beyond an Addiction, It's a Way of Life.
by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16
Gilmore Drops
Because of all the first round CB’s Kirkpatrick, Dennard, Claiborne,jenkins and Minnifield.
Chandler Jones needs to have a HUGE combine to go earlier IMO.
Yeah Green i could see as early as the 2nd Round.He isn’t the Worlds greatest blocker though.
there's an insane amount of good CBs in this year's draft.
I’d put Dre Kirkpatrick and Morris Claiborne as the same level as Patrick Peterson (minus the ST bonus) and Dennard at Prince’s level. Jenkins has the character problems, but he’s ubertalented. Minniefield probably is the best fit for our zone scheme. I wouldn’t mind any of them in the first.
Gilmore had some bad games, so he’ll drop to the 2nd, but I’m not sure he’ll fall to the mid-to late 20’s or (hopefully) 30’s….
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by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 11, 2012 5:28 PM EST up reply actions
20s and 30s of the 2nd round of course
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by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 11, 2012 5:29 PM EST up reply actions
Burfict doesnt stink nor is he an idiot
In reality he is a very smart backer but his intensity gets him in trouble. he doesnt actually cause trouble though.
And if you look at some of the flags thrown on him, they are the biggest BS calls ever.
He also was told by his coaches to try and calm down and it actually affected his game. TC always says you dont wanna take the bite out of the shark, so you gotta be careful when reigning in a player.
Burfict with our vets and coaching would be awesome and he wouldnt have to start.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
I disagree on why. My source comes from someone who went to ASU (he's over at BGN, so take from it what you will)
but he got demoted to 2nd team because he hot-dogged it in practice and gave up on plays. He also has disciplinary issues beyond that, and while he’s got elite athleticism, he doesn’t play like it. The bowl game he was complete crap.
But we don’t know what’s what or why for realz, so we’ll have to see, I suppose.
I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.
by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 11, 2012 6:36 PM EST up reply actions
Yea i know his negatives but
i also know his coaches speak highly of him still and take some of the blame for him playing like he has at times because his intensity is kinda tied to his game. His personal 1 on 1 interviews will determine where he is drafted and his coaches word will also play a big part in it.
Burfict wouldnt be my choice in round 1 but i also wouldnt hate it at all.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
I'd agree with you. I don't have any doubts that he's talented...but I need to be sure he isn't a headcase.
We aren’t the Jets after all, lol. If we draft him, it means we did our research, so I’d be OK with it….not happy….but OK.
I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.
by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 11, 2012 9:50 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah I agree..They'll do their due diligence on him..
And who knows it could be poor coaching that has made him look and play like a nutcase..He’s worth taking a long hard look at..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
No doubt, though he was one of the poorest character players I've seen.
Think about who you wouldn’t want to represent the Giant franchise…and that’s how he comes off. He’s more Albert Haynesworth crazy than Brian Dawkins crazy.
I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.
by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 11, 2012 10:03 PM EST up reply actions
Yes that seems to be the case as I see it right now...
He’s not made a very good impression on me…We need clean tough players..the Giants are not a mental health clinic..So we’ll see
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
I like the athlete
But can you see him getting fined for being 2 minutes early?
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
Football - It's Beyond an Addiction, It's a Way of Life.
by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16
Hahaha!!!..Yes..He works on Coughlins clock..not EST..haha
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Burfict is as dumb as a stump
unproductive and shoots himself in the foot. Burfict with our coaches wouldn’t even get on the field.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
Yup
Not until he got it right.
I understand your apprehension with him though.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
won't we have TWO compensatory picks at least?
and couldn’t one be higher? Cofield, Boss.
what a lot of people don't point out
is that in some post-draft interviews Jerry Reese had talked a lot about improving the Giants’ Special Teams. he pointed out how ST had been a huge weakness for the Giants in the past couple years. the Special Teams this year is by no means excellent, but it is a lot improved from last year. a lot of the players drafted this year have made big contributions on specials. Tyler Sash made the all-rookie team for his ST play. the UFDAs have also played a big part on specials as well. JWill and Hynoski are the only two that have impacted the defense and offense respectively, but the improved Special Teams have definitely came from getting some good young ST players
I'd like to thank the good Lord for making me a Yankee fan.
We're now not tertible!
I thought Jernigan was going to help as a returner!
by Giant Ken on Jan 11, 2012 5:31 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Jernigan needs to stop taking the ball out,
he’s barely making it to the 20
by Giants_Cover_2 on Jan 11, 2012 5:35 PM EST up reply actions
Manningham and Anvil did nothing in year one
and became solid players, I could care less about this, I’ll evaluatel 2 years from now.
Simms was on Francesa on Monday and when he talked about the D-line, Simms said Marvin Austin is going to be a monster, he told Mike wait till he gets healthy and is able to play. It means nothing as well but I found it interesting Simms would now that much about the Giants draft and that much about a guy like Austin.
Ross was a super Rookie and never got much better, Prince might be the oposite a guy who struggles in his rookie year then explodes, the guy had no camp, and was injured all year. Lets see what he does next year.
Yeah I caught that interview
I fully expect in 2-3 years the d-line will be the best in the league. JPP, Anvil, Austin, Tuck, with Canty playing the role that Bernard plays now
by Giants_Cover_2 on Jan 11, 2012 5:43 PM EST up reply actions
With Austin and Anvil in front
a monster MLB will kill whatever squeezes through
why shouldnt he
who are you really impressed with from that draft from that position?
The ultimate football chicken & egg argument:
What came first? The great talent or the great scheme?
Yea, too early in a normal year
Through the fact that the offseason was so short and its unfair at this point to judge.
by Giant Ken on Jan 11, 2012 5:42 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
OT(again) all the people who dabble with mock drafts and such
How do feel about Janzen Jackson? He made himself eligible for the Draft.
I remember some Scouts felt he was a better prospect than Berry but with the Major character Concerns where do you see him going if he even gets drafted at all?
He goes undrafted for sure
unless Cinci jumps on him in the 6th or 7th round. Good talent but has had far too many issues causing him to miss valuable time on the field. UDFA most likely but hey, you never know.
by Robin's-meats-and-vegetables on Jan 11, 2012 6:01 PM EST up reply actions
I've liked LaMichael James for quite awhile
Hopefully we can pick him up with the 64th pick.
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Win Ugly.
-Eli Manning for MVP
HOPE NOT!
Dude is Fragile and soft.Just recently he was crying about getting hit…By college players.
If the giants want to draft a speed back I hope its David Wilson.
David Wilson is a player that I really like but
most VT RB’s don’t pan out and I think I have an idea why and it isn’t because of a lack of talent either. This past draft Ryan Williams who worked out for the Giants stated that the Giants had about 27 pass protection packages but at VT they only taught them 3. I know the learning curve is different from college to pros but this is a major hyrdle that these Virginia Tech backs can’t seem to overcome. As I said it isn’t their talent because they’ve had some good ones come out of there but they just aren’t panning out. This has to be if not thee then a major reason why these guys bust. Pas Pro.
by Robin's-meats-and-vegetables on Jan 11, 2012 6:21 PM EST up reply actions
That's a vaild point but..
The whole point of and “speed Back” is for them to Play in space on passing down not pass (although they will have to every now and then)Protect.Good Info though didn’t know that.
he was also recently saying he wanted to play the following week after dislocating something
his comment was more so that he doesn’t want to stay in college another year and be hit by college players, he’d rather go to the NFL and do it. James is a tough little SOB and as long as its not the first round, I’d love to have that kind of speed and versatility at RB
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I think he should go in the 2nd round or high 3rd
Unless someone like the Raiders take him…oh wait do they even have any picks this year lol
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Win Ugly.
-Eli Manning for MVP
Fragile and soft?
He is a playmaker in every sense of the word.
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I'm down wit JPP
Yea you know me
Win Ugly.
-Eli Manning for MVP
I know we will draft the BPA
but we have to do something about the o-line, wether through draft, UDFA, or trades or whatever. Most of our starters are on the wrong end of their careers, and the guys who aren’t… well this is a Giant team, so you know there are going to be some key injuries next year. Just saying…
DRAFT! Draft?!!! Are you kiddin' me?!! DRAFT??!!
Playoff time, baby!
Let the egss and cowpies talk about draft!!!
Now everyone will say Eli is in Bradys class. F*ck me
by PatNation85 on Nov 6, 2011 4:31 PM PST
i know i was thinking the same
We are in playoffs right now.
This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.
Sanu
Go true spread. Good luck covering Nicks, Cruz, Manningham, and Sanu.
Sanu was a beast with terrible QBs. Can’t imagine him with an elite NFL QB. Sanu is the type of freak JR loves. Unfortunately, the Patriots will do whatever it takes to grab him.
Maybe keep a back in to stand in front of the freight train that got through on the blitz and run it everyso often.
Yeah good point, but there's only one problem
Eli is not elite
by Giants_Cover_2 on Jan 11, 2012 7:04 PM EST up reply actions
The Patriots don't give a crap about WRs, why do you think they care about this kid?
They drafted Chad Jackson in the 2nd round, but they really don’t go all out to draft receivers early.
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"Eli done gangsta'd the NFL" -Deion Sanders
JPP for NFL Defensive Player of the Year
I know someone
….but this is the internet so take it for what it’s worth
Bellicheck likes Schiano
and has a relationship with him so if Schiano says good things about Sanu I can see the Pats taking him.
Maybe if it was in the 4th round or so
It just doesn’t seem like the Belichick Way to take receivers early.
"I believe in Eli!" -Deion Sanders
"Eli done gangsta'd the NFL" -Deion Sanders
JPP for NFL Defensive Player of the Year
I am not up to date on the college crop
I am sure this site will highlight the prospects after the Super Bowl.
I think Jerry Reese is a great talent evaluator. JPP, Cruz, Hynoski, Ballard—these guys were not consensus choices, all have done well.
COLD HARD FOOTBALL FACTS GRADES TEAMS DRAFTS FROM 2001-2010
The top four teams and their grades: Patriots (A) Ravens (A-) Chargers (A-) Giants (A-)
Here is what they had to say about the G-Men:
New York Giants (A-)
Pro Bowlers: 9 (t-6th)
Draftees Active in 2010: 42 (t-9th)
Players with 50+ Career AV: 4 (t-4th)
Players with 20+ Career AV: 20 (t-6th)
Best Pick: OL David Diehi (5th round, 2003)
Worst Pick: WR Sinorice Moss (2nd round, 2006)
Summary: The Giants have excelled at finding defensive linemen in the draft the past 10 years, but they haven’t had nearly as much luck with linebackers. They drafted 10 of them in the decade and none of them were really hits (pending the continued growth of MLB Jonathan Goff, who started all 16 games last year).
by John W on Jan 11, 2012 6:54 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
FREAKING AWESOME
Same physical skills as Burfict.
Up a few posts i said i wouldnt take Burfict in round 1 and Bradham is the reason, same skills and he will be available in round 2-3
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
real good, should be a good LBEEZER in the NFL
he’s probably best suited for SAM, tho he’s not all that big.
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right
best value in the draft, with exception of arian foster or victor cruz
Diehl isn't a bad choice
We have slammed him the last few years, but he was one of the cornerstones of what was considered the best line in the league not too long ago. Considering he plays every offensive snap, never missed a game until he missed four last year, and contributed enormously to both the passing game and the running game, he was probably a better value in the 5th than AB in the 7th.
Go Giants!
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Patriots? really?
They may have done well in the first half of the decade, but they have done really nothing right in the draft since then aside from drafting Gronk and Hernandez. Those guys are nice, but just look at the state of their defense. Most of the guys on their O-line have been there forever,and welker was a FA.
Go Giants!
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The Pats traded a 2 and a 7 to Miami for Welker
He was an RFA and the Fish made a qualifying offer, so they would have gotten a two for him if he had signed with someone else.
The Fish had picked him up after the Chargers waived him.
Welker had originally been an UDFA.
I mention this because this is the kind of aggressive move that Jerry Reese never makes, but as far as a talent evaluator he’s as good as they get.
Blue is the color of melancholy and honesty
Green is the color of inexperience, envy and nausea.
What a steal that one was...
Shows you how inept Miami has been..Speaking of Miami if I was them I’d be chasing after Green Bays Flynn..Matt Moore has done a decent job, but that Flynn is incredible and they need a QB..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
IIRC, Flynn was not much more than a game manager at LSU.
He just seems like a product of his system who would never be able to replicate that week 17 success anywhere else, sort of like Matt Cassel.
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"Eli done gangsta'd the NFL" -Deion Sanders
JPP for NFL Defensive Player of the Year
Yeah could be..but he'll get a shot to prove he isn't a one day wonder somewhere..
If I’m a GM and I see a guy throw for 486yds and 6 TDs..I’d raise my eyebrows a bit..and I’d take notice..Remember Rodgers and Brady were back-up QBs…
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Yeah, but at least Rodgers was a 1st rounder, and Brady had Belichick.
But he will get a chance, it would make me sick, though, if the Packers franchise him and get some high draft picks for him.
"I believe in Eli!" -Deion Sanders
"Eli done gangsta'd the NFL" -Deion Sanders
JPP for NFL Defensive Player of the Year
Good point..then they'll beef up their defense..great..Driver is getting up there
in age so they could get a cherry pick wide receiver…They sure won’t give Flynn away for nothing…
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
He's got less value than Cassell who brought the 33rd pick in a weak draft
Honestly I wouldn’t trade more than a 4th round pick. The free agent contract is a big enough risk.
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
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by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
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Interesting point..but there are teams looking for a QB..
He might draw more value than Cassel did..But you raise a good second point..I don’t see this as being a very strong draft..with a few exceptions..it is pretty weak..
And looking around the league offensive linemen will be a premium this year…But when you look at who we have on the roster..I think we’re really in pretty good shape and I also think our LBs are decent..They are all growing/evolving..which is what you hope for..So I have no idea what JR is going to do…I think a RB is in order..If we can snag a good LB..I don’t know..but I really think O-line picks will be slim pickings..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
They can't afford to pay him top 5 money like that
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Yea you know me
Win Ugly.
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I wouldn't trade for him
But I’d go after him if I’m running a WEst Coast Offense, he’s trained and he seems pretty accurate, which is what you need. Bush, Marshall and Long are three pretty nice building blocks for a QB to work with.
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
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by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16
Nick Saban, exhibit number 1 for be careful with college coaches without pro experience
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
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by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
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Good point...very good point..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Carson Palmer was an aggressive move.
Look how that worked out.
"I believe in Eli!" -Deion Sanders
"Eli done gangsta'd the NFL" -Deion Sanders
JPP for NFL Defensive Player of the Year
Best Pick
David Diehl???
Perry Fewell Stinks!
5th round
started since he’s a rookie and was excellent for a few years, starting LT caliber for others? You’re really questioning that? LOL. That’s a steal.
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by Rorschach44 on Jan 11, 2012 10:59 PM EST up reply actions
Diehl was a GREAT PICK
Solid OL starter at multiple positions for years. Great locker room presence. Heck, that’s a nice pick for late 1st, early 2nd.
Bradshaw would be my 2nd choice.
UDFDA. Cruz, but I bet Herzlich will be able to make his case when all is said and done.
Coughlin speaks
Road warriors, coming out of the woodwork.
Team Ghost: Manningham, Sintim, Beckum, Barden, JPP, Anvil, Ross
Tom Coughlin: "Respect all. Fear none."
I have a big problem trying to talk about the draft right now with Sunday looming..
and I can’t stand Mel Kiper..little whiffle dick..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
His wiki page says Ernie Accorsi was the one who encouraged him to become a draft analyst.
I guess that’s karma for him giving us Eli. Or something.
"I believe in Eli!" -Deion Sanders
"Eli done gangsta'd the NFL" -Deion Sanders
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Two Baltimore guys
I think Ernie just wanted him to get the hell out of his office
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
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by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
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Lol. And, so he'd mislead and confuse the other 31 GMs
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"Eli done gangsta'd the NFL" -Deion Sanders
JPP for NFL Defensive Player of the Year
I thought Mel Kiper didn't watch pro football
And his comments proved it. You could write that column by reading USA Today.
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This is one of my favorites..haha
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Yup and we will have another one this year.
This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.
Hell yeah!!!!
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Exactly
Our biggest game since the superbowl and were talking drafts grades. The season ain’t over who knows what impact these rooks will have the hopefully next 3 games. So around feb 6th kiper can feel free to let us giant fans know his grade for this draft class. Til than let the “road warriors” out and let’s take care of business Sunday G-MEN!!
by Giants36 on Jan 11, 2012 9:50 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Damn right!!!..I could give a shit less about Kipers grading..Screw him..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
That's why i am not participating in the draft talk and simply focused on the current team and games on hand.
This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.
Yeah I'm not really able to discuss the draft until after the season..
I’ve been watching some kids..but honestly my mind is totally focussed on our playoff run…Draft talk right now upsets my karma…
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
I'm just in here to bash Mel
And this threads been getting some activity
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I'm down wit JPP
Yea you know me
Win Ugly.
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Watching SoundFX on NFL Network...Giants vs Falcons....EPICCCCCCCC
I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.
by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 11, 2012 9:56 PM EST reply actions
lol Grant argues a shit ton with the ref
Grant: “What the hell? That’s the wrong spot…its over here!” ::Points::
Ref: “No its over here.” ::Points::
Grant: “I dunno what you’re looking at…its right there!!!!”
Ref: “You do your job, I do mine. You tackle, I make the spot, Mr. Grant”
Grant: “You ain’t doin’ your job that good…”
I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.
by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 11, 2012 10:01 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Lmao...
I know exactly what play you’re talking about. The third and fifteen that gained fourteen before the second fourth down stop. Grant is 100% right, that spot was a joke.
FIRE Perry Fewell
by bleedblue12 on Jan 11, 2012 10:03 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
It was...those refs were a complete joke...
I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.
by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 11, 2012 10:03 PM EST up reply actions
I remember screaming at the TV on that
I thought they were about to give them the first down after that terrible spot. Then when they showed it was 4th down. I turned to my buddy and said, I guess they will have to stop another Ryan QB sneak. I was joking but wow, I was right, lol.
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Jan 11, 2012 10:09 PM EST up reply actions
Beyond a joke..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
wow
lol
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Jan 11, 2012 10:03 PM EST up reply actions
Hahaha!!!
Hey how about that Grant?..amazing what can happen when you let your players play football, ain’t it??
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Love that show period...
Some of the shit they say on the field if great!
FIRE Perry Fewell
by bleedblue12 on Jan 11, 2012 10:01 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
no doubt
I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.
by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 11, 2012 10:03 PM EST up reply actions
It's my favorite show..it really let's you know what is going on..on the field..Greatest stuff I watch..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Off topic completely, but
does anyone else notice a striking resemblance between Tommy Boy + 20 years and minus 100 lbs and Mark Davis?
worst haircut ever
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Jan 11, 2012 10:09 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah what size bowl did they use for that hairdo??
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
He looks like the West Coast version of Moe from The Three Stooges
by scarlet knight on Jan 11, 2012 10:18 PM EST up reply actions
Haha!!..Curly dyed his hair!!!
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
"Why I oughta!!!!!!!"
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Liberty bowl
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Yea you know me
Win Ugly.
-Eli Manning for MVP
unfortunately
the haircut is much more “Black Sheep” than “Tommy Boy”
It’s less of a physical resemblance and more of a “same shit eating grin and sense of entitlement and utter stupidity” resemblance
hahahaha
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Jan 11, 2012 10:19 PM EST up reply actions
Is that really hair?
nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!
Just ordered FatHeads for all available Giants. Now I have something to aim at when punching holes in my wall.
Makes this haircut look good
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
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by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16
so good, this calls for a dance
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Jan 11, 2012 10:43 PM EST up reply actions
Geezus!!!ha!!!
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
That's hot
nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!
Just ordered FatHeads for all available Giants. Now I have something to aim at when punching holes in my wall.
Off Topic
on NFL Network’s Sound FX at the end of the Falcons game Eli and Jacobs are sitting on the bench together. Jacobs tells Eli “hey you’re a beast man. I can’t say that enough”.
Eli without question has the respect of his teammates.
Perry Fewell Stinks!
so is it safe to say
that there are no anonymous players in the locker room saying Eli has a poor work ethnic?
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Jan 11, 2012 10:15 PM EST up reply actions
The reason Eli and our receivers came out of the shute this season clicking was because..
He organized workouts during the lockout..He was working out at some High School field with them..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
I agree with that
Eli said thats one of the reasons why Cruz and him have such a good connection.
Remember how much sh*it Eli was getting in the preseason games because he did not throw a TD pass (mostly from guys on this site)?
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Jan 11, 2012 10:22 PM EST up reply actions
Well I honestly wasn't around for that..because I banned myself until the season started
Hahaha..I was in a bad mood with BBV superiors..Seemed like everything I said got the ‘OK’ button..so I said screw it…for awhile.. I’d rather ban myself I figured..Then I came back…But I did keep tabs on what they were doing and Eli did an outstanding leadership job getting those guys on the field to practice…So it really doesn’t surprised me that we have two 1000+ yard receivers this year…
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
thats right
I forgot about all that. With all the fun we be having, its like u never left.
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Jan 11, 2012 10:40 PM EST up reply actions
Haha..thanks..I really enjoy this interaction with everybody..It is
very informative and we have a bunch of very funny people out here..So you talk serious Football, intermixed with humor..and I’m a jokester..but also know the game..I never attempt to impose my views on anybody..and I enjoy both the serious and the funny..Football is a sport and it exists to have fun..a release from the rigors of life’s daily grind..that’s how I look at it…It’s a game we as fans take seriously but no matter what happens it isn’t the end of the world.
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
very true
gotta mix in the jokes, stories and fun here, especially these last few weeks when everyone is on pins and needles for these big games.
We go over previous games, god/bad plays, new game plans, X’s and O’s, 2012 Draft, etc. that humor is needed to lighten the mood. I have a feeling tomorrow is one of “those days” where around 2 o’clock or so this place goes into a random discussion on the most random thing ever. Those always get me through the last few hours of work with a smile.
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Jan 11, 2012 11:04 PM EST up reply actions
I consider Thursdays the comic release days for BBV..for whatever reason
We all just start posting and laughing at each others shit…It starts out serious for about 20 minutes..and then all funny hell breaks loose..I love it..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
same here Boobi
same here
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Jan 11, 2012 11:24 PM EST up reply actions
I hate when that happens.
I visit this site for strict analytical breakdowns of past games and detailed strategic game-planning for the upcoming tests that this team faces. There is no room for ‘fun’ when debating the x’s and o’s of American Football. I’m a firm believer in a “firm, fair, honest, and demanding” internet and will fight to the death to keep it REAL!
nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!
Just ordered FatHeads for all available Giants. Now I have something to aim at when punching holes in my wall.
get out!
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Jan 12, 2012 12:21 AM EST up reply actions
Bullshit you!!!..hahaha!!!
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Pfft
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Win Ugly.
-Eli Manning for MVP
You gotta admit...
The offense was pathetic during the preseason and the first couple of games. I look back at the Redskins and Rams games as nightmare games for the offense. Boley’s fumble recovery saved the day against the Rams.
nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!
Just ordered FatHeads for all available Giants. Now I have something to aim at when punching holes in my wall.
oh they were bad
By the second half of the Ram game, they were looking much better. But the blame that Eli got during this period suggested he took huge step backwards in being an NFL QB.
The offense has always been slow starting, for the season and games, not a secret or a shock to any fan.
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Jan 11, 2012 11:57 PM EST up reply actions
True that...
He was written off before the season even started. It’s a good thing he doesn’t listen to the chumps who hate on him.
nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!
Just ordered FatHeads for all available Giants. Now I have something to aim at when punching holes in my wall.
Yeah that was cool shit..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
It's fun to be winning!
From FX and other shows, I like how our team acts on the sideline and in the locker room.Maybe it’s because we are winning, but the Jets want to kill each other. i like our unitty.
by scarlet knight on Jan 11, 2012 10:21 PM EST reply actions
The Jets locker room is a 'Dark Place'..We've heard only some of the selfish horror stories..
Somebody needs to explain to me how you can have eight captains on a team?..What a joke..That Rex Ryan is an idiot, blowhard..Enjoy TC while we have him..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
I'm hoping they cut McElroy so we can grab him
I liked him pre draft and he’s got balls to talk about it.
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
Football - It's Beyond an Addiction, It's a Way of Life.
by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16
I'd take that guy in a heartbeat..He'd love to play for a team like ours, I bet..
But you know..it’s a damn shame that a rookie has to point out the problems with a team..I hope he isn’t in the dog-house for being honest and forthright..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Wow. Look at this article....
http://espn.go.com/nfl/playoffs/2011/story/_/id/7451005/the-giants-jason-pierre-paul-good-company
It’s written by Ashley Fox, so it isn’t anything mindblowing, but still nice to read. Especially this:
Pierre-Paul isn’t what he will eventually be, but the New York Giants defensive end is already this: the most naturally gifted defensive player still playing in the postseason.
With work and coaching and more experience, what can Pierre-Paul become?
“He will be a Hall of Famer,” one AFC personnel man told me.
I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.
by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 11, 2012 10:41 PM EST reply actions
everytime I read stuff like this
I just think back to Draft Day 2010… lol
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Jan 11, 2012 10:45 PM EST up reply actions
I read that thread from time to time as motivation.
For some reason, I feed off of unnecessary hate. I had an exam yesterday, and all I had to do is read these two Packers/Giants threads here and APC, and I completely crushed it.
I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.
by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 11, 2012 10:48 PM EST up reply actions
here's some extra movtivation to get you through future tests
your posts here are average at best but the one’s you do for BPV suck.
Now this is bulletin board material
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Jan 11, 2012 10:51 PM EST up reply actions
I'll meet you over at BPV, where I'm allowed to curse you
@ $%#&&&^^%&(&^^^&@
I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.
by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 11, 2012 10:53 PM EST up reply actions
that should be sarcasm font. I guess I broke it.
I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.
by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 11, 2012 10:53 PM EST up reply actions
damn it
you broke the internet
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Jan 11, 2012 10:56 PM EST up reply actions
I'll fix it later.
I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.
by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 11, 2012 11:01 PM EST up reply actions
That what the last guy said....
nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!
Just ordered FatHeads for all available Giants. Now I have something to aim at when punching holes in my wall.
well there's your problem
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Jan 12, 2012 12:23 AM EST up reply actions
I got indigestion
Literally, acid reflux, couldn’t talk, felt betrayed, my wife thought I had snapped
Then I watched the Sports Science segment. It showed one thing that cheered me up. The power piece. That not only was he the most powerful guy in the draft, But he was the most powerful guy they had ever measured. They had no explanation, bigger guys should have been more powerful. They finish saying that the backflips may offer a clue. That the thing that allows a guy that size to do backflips perhaps let’s him use his spine and body differently than other people. Well I had also seen interviews with Stray where he said that was the key to being a dominant DE. That first impact, the ability to generate that power move.
Then I started to relax.
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
Football - It's Beyond an Addiction, It's a Way of Life.
by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16
For me I at first sratched my head over that pick..
Then I saw that video of that huge kid doing backflips..and I’m like Holy Shit !!…and the wingspan he has is like 20 feet..What a pick JPP was..and kudos to the coaching staff..He was and really still is a raw talent..but they took it slow with him..I’ll be honest with you..I don’t see how anybody can hurt that kid..The whole damn league already fears him..He’s unstoppable…There is not one single lineman that can handle him by himself..and I love them moving him around the line of scrimmage..He’s like a roving nightmare for an offense…Anytime you have a guy like that moving around..it causes fits with QBs and an offensive line..He’s the best pick we have made since LT..IMO
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
same here
hated it at the time but that night and the next morning I watch a few highlights of him, including the back flip video. I got really exciting then
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Jan 11, 2012 11:51 PM EST up reply actions
Sports Science
I didn’t see that until after last season. I was just floored. He’s really more of a freak than Jevon Kearse, and not by a little. He’s Kearse, plus a gymnast, plus 2 inches and 25 lbs of muscle. That’s just not right.
Speaking of SS, Prince’s episode is not one to be missed either. The dude covers 20 feet in a single leap to catch a ball, it’s insane. As much as I love to celebrate the old days when men were men and WRs were scared to catch a pass over the middle…. the level of athlete in today’s game is just out of this world
That is great stuff...
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
What sold me on JPP after the draft was...
The fact that this 6’5 265lb kid has the athleticism to complete 15 backflips and top it off with a simmie, like he was an Olympic gymnast. After seeing that at the combine, I knew we had something special
by PaulieTheDon1 on Jan 12, 2012 1:39 PM EST up reply actions
Kinda B.S. for Kiper to completely not mention Williams
He was far and away the Giants most disparaged pick from the draft. Considering how late we took him, it was absurd how much flak the front office took for grabbing a guy that absolutely no one had any regard for. And now he’s turned into a probable future starter for us at linebacker who has shown explosive speed and play making ability.
If you’re going to hammer us for a late round pick right after the draft, and re-grade the draft after that guy has performed well above expectations, you sure as hell better mention him.
This is a sig.
by Caseys Kiss of Death on Jan 11, 2012 11:39 PM EST reply actions
Kiper doesn't know his ass from a hole in the ground..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Just because it hasn't happened before
Doesn’t mean Jerry won’t draft an LB in the first round this year. Most mocks I’ve seen have only 2 ILBs going in the first round. Personally, I’d like to see Dont’a Hightower in blue after his championship run in Crimson. He was the QB in Nick Saban’s complex system and had a great year, but he did miss most of 2009 with an injury so that’s worth looking into.
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