Giants' Tom Coughlin: 'It's Not About Me'
Great post about New York Giants coach Tom Coughlin this morning from Ian O'Connor of ESPN New York. It reminded me of why I have always pulled for Coughlin to succeed, and why he is such a terrific representative of the Giants' franchise.
For me, here was the central part:
Coughlin can match [Bill] Parcells' two Super Bowl titles here, and put himself in the company of the all-time NFL greats. When reminded that another ring would greatly enhance his place in history, Coughlin said, "That's not the goal that I have. I was taught that it's not about me.
"It's about us. It's always about us, and about what it would mean to these young men who have earned the right to be in this competition."
You have to admire the way Coughlin has always conducted himself. The buffoon who coaches the other New York team and always needs to be the center of attention could, and should, learn some things from the old man who coaches the Giants.
Coughlin was surprisingly reflective in speaking with O'Connor. What I really want to know is how O'Connor managed to get Coughlin to let his guard down, ever so briefly. Nice work, and a rare glimpse at Coughlin talking -- even just a little bit -- about himself.
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Off Topic: guys, please rec the fanpost to the Philbin family
And leave a comment.
It would be great to show from BBV what we’re all about.
Now everyone will say Eli is in Bradys class. F*ck me
by PatNation85 on Nov 6, 2011 4:31 PM PST
Aaron Rogers
"I can’t think of another team that played us this well on both sides of the ball," Rodgers said after the game. "The Chargers game was close but we really had a good rhythm. I think the Giants’ defense did a good job of getting us out of some stuff and hitting me a number of times. We made enough plays at the end to get the job done.
"We knew what kind of game it was going to be. The Giants are a very good football team, very well-coached. A lot of pride, a lot of veteran guys on that team, so we knew it was going to be a tough game."
This was after our week 13 loss to them this year.
I got banned from Jests Blog for saying Chad Henne has better stats than Mark Sanchez. And they think they're the big brothers in this town? LMAO try again little sisters!
Let's Go Giants!!!!
Coughlin
I have been a big critic of TC and still would like him replaced (ain’t gonna happen) for the long term good of the team.
However, the point of contrast between TC and the Bloviator of Jests is beyond measure.
TC always conducts himself (except maybe the “kiss my ass” moment last year) with the utmost dignity and humility. Bloviator, well, bloviates, eggests, spews and basically craps all over himself and his team, makes all of them disgraced and ashamed. Narcissistic fool.
TC has been, is and will be a class act. Learn from that Blover.
All the Giants should play like Mark Bavaro.
TC, TQ, PF, KG, DD and KMac Must Go!
It is equally worthless when people are always optimistic or always pessimistic. Either way I take their opinion with a pound of salt because I know they only have one setting. I post my own thoughts, not what either side wants to read.
by UnknownJintsFan on Jan 10, 2012 9:38 AM EST reply actions
TC is the best coach Big Blue has had since Parcells
And if he manages to win a 2nd Super Bowl, well he will still be 2nd. I certainly respect the man, the coach.
by Jimmy Orange on Jan 10, 2012 11:22 AM EST up reply actions
Frankly, it's about me
I have a Steelers fan in my office next to me, a Packers fan down the hall. I need to shut them up. The Giants need to do it for me!
by TheGifford on Jan 10, 2012 9:41 AM EST reply actions 2 recs
the eagles fan in my office was shut up long ago.
thankfully i got no cowboys fans. all the jets fans got theirs on christmas. the packers fan in my office though is a big time football junkie like me. we both won our fantasy football leagues this year by giving each other advice all season long lol. too much respect between us but hopefully hes the one not happy next week!
by The Blood of Eli on Jan 10, 2012 9:44 AM EST up reply actions
Jets Fan in office
I showed the Jets fan in the office a picture Strah posted to twitter with Giants hats full price and jets on clearance! He was pissed! LOL
by Knucle head on Jan 10, 2012 10:08 AM EST up reply actions
I work with all Cowboys fans, live in Dallas area, wife die hard Cowboy fan
Hell my son roots for them, unless they are playing Big Blue.
by Jimmy Orange on Jan 10, 2012 11:25 AM EST up reply actions
I suffer the same torture...Wife is a Cowboy fan..The 10 and twelve year-old Sons?...
Yep Eagles fans…
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
A man's gotta follow his heart and marry the love of his life...
…but Bobbi, with all due respect, you need a family therapist during football season!
As for myself, I forcibly indoctrinated my family with so much Big Blue dogma and propaganda that they had no choice in the matter but to follow the big dog.
"Allie Sherman wrecked the Giants!" - my 5th grade bus driver
Yeah somebody out here asked me how the hell the boys became Eagles fans...
I told I fed them too many damn green vegetables, and not enough blueberries…
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Well, my 8 year old daughter roots for NYG
Sigh, her interest in football is minimal. She tells me I shout too much and prefers to go shopping instead
by Jimmy Orange on Jan 10, 2012 12:01 PM EST up reply actions
They come around as teens.
My daughter realizes that her dad is happier, more agreeable, and willing to grant permission for all kinds of things when the Giants win – so she roots hard for Big Blue now.
"Allie Sherman wrecked the Giants!" - my 5th grade bus driver
My daughter is actually interested
She likes to spend time with me and she knows on Sunday, that is what I do.
But she and my wife constantly bother me. Sometimes my wife sends in the daughter to bother me. Wife does not like that I watch it. That she watches the most inane soap stuff does not count, I should not be watching it because she does not like it and it takes time away from family. Really? Yeah, that works.
Them: Can I talk to you?
Me. No, go away.
Them: Blah Blah Blah
All the Giants should play like Mark Bavaro.
TC, TQ, PF, KG, DD and KMac Must Go!
It is equally worthless when people are always optimistic or always pessimistic. Either way I take their opinion with a pound of salt because I know they only have one setting. I post my own thoughts, not what either side wants to read.
by UnknownJintsFan on Jan 10, 2012 12:30 PM EST up reply actions
Hahaha!!!..boy that sounds familiar..
My dang 12 year old starts rooting for the other damn team !!!…One game I told him: “You go upstairs and watch it upstairs..I didn’t hang that TV in your room for my health..You can jump up and down and make all the noise you want..scat !!”
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
The games Giants are beating his team you should make your kid watch the game with you lol
This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.
That must be torture..lol
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Do you Tebow for the Steeler fan?
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
Football - It's Beyond an Addiction, It's a Way of Life.
by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16
Yes,
I put a picture of Tebow, Tebowing on her door yesterday. She was not amused.
Ask her if she thinks Polamalu lost a step, he was chasing Demauriyus (sp?) Thomas all day.
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
Football - It's Beyond an Addiction, It's a Way of Life.
by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16
Jets and cowboys fans here in my office
Thank god I had the final laugh. This will be a great game. Won’t be boring like last night -
by S OzZy825 on Jan 10, 2012 10:57 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
One of my bosses is a huge Jet fan
he has been very bitter the last three weeks
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Jan 10, 2012 10:59 AM EST up reply actions
Better steer clear of him for awhile..
Could negatively impact your next raise…haha
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
"Yeah, I'm gonna need you to come in on Sunday.Great"

Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Jan 10, 2012 11:07 AM EST up reply actions
ever see the world of warcraft commerical with that clip?
instead of playing tetris they have him sitting there playing world of warcraft with the exact same scene lol
by The Blood of Eli on Jan 10, 2012 11:08 AM EST up reply actions
lol, thats great
I love that he is eating the cheetos that cover his half-cubicle
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Jan 10, 2012 11:13 AM EST up reply actions
but anyway
just tell him u have a meeting with the bobs
by The Blood of Eli on Jan 10, 2012 11:08 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Tom Coughlin is a great coach..
And a very humble kinda man..He sincerely wants his team to succeed and achieve the ultimate reward..He could careless about himself…A rare trait for a Head Coach..Over time with most HCs success blows their head and ego up..not TC..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Tom Coughlin, class act, win or lose, makes me proud to be a Giants fan
by maraman on Jan 10, 2012 10:05 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Seriously, read this book
“How football explains america” by Sal Palantonio. It revolves around the 2007 season. When you read about TC, you WILL be a fan. the guys cares about one thing being the best football coach period. He is devoid of ego and single-minded. In fact, it was that single-minded that almost got him fired, but his humility that made him make the needed changes. Seriously, it’s a great book!
Tom Coughlin
I must admit, I called for his head this season and in the past. He just continues to prove me wrong. Just when you think we are dead, he rallies the troops and has guys like antrel rolle acting like well disciplined catholic school children. i guess i gotta deal with the coughlin for a few more years lol.
by The Blood of Eli on Jan 10, 2012 9:46 AM EST reply actions
packers
Duuude.. blood of eli and tommy d are defending the honor of bbv and the giants on the acme packers sb blog. I hate how JPPs comments are being thrown out of context. Our media gives a bad rap.
by wrxsti28 on Jan 10, 2012 9:59 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
That stuff with JPP is stupid
I don’t want any players that aren’t 100% sure they will win. I don’t care if they say it.
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
Football - It's Beyond an Addiction, It's a Way of Life.
by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16
I wouldn't even be bothered going over there...
Bottomline, JPP is a young, talented and excited kid…If Green Bay fans can’t recognize and comprehend that, then they must be morons..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
I kind of like his comments, just like I liked when Eli said he was in the same class as Tom Brady. Show some confidence.
by Ualtar on Jan 10, 2012 10:36 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
let em use it a fodder
sh*t if that’s what it takes for them to find something to get themselves in a tizzy so be it.
JPP said what I want to hear. I wanna know that this team is not intimidated by the number one seed. I wanna see signs of life that make this team beleive they can go into Lambeau and dominate a good team. I think that type of attitude is more than welcome in that locker room… who gives two Sh*ts what Packer fans or their players for that matter think.
it’ll be decided on the field and I would much rather know my team feels good about things going into it than the usual PC well they are a good team BS. Playoffs! All In!
You down wit JPP?
I got 99 problems but a Vick ain't one!
Screw'em if they don't want to be nice..
Let’s face it..People tend to hide fear with facades…They FEAR the KRACKEN !!!
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
yeah i was over there representing yesterday... ill make my way over there when i go on phone duty at work lol
by The Blood of Eli on Jan 10, 2012 10:07 AM EST up reply actions
Funny, those guys arw really pumped up over JPP's "guarantee."
Tried to help you guys out but I have been in thier “join the site” waiting period for months. Same with the Falcoholic site.
by LoNJDTechnology on Jan 10, 2012 10:17 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
i went around and signed up for all 32 teams like week 2 this year
by The Blood of Eli on Jan 10, 2012 10:24 AM EST up reply actions
i joined all the teams when we played Buffalo
This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.
Summary of what is being said on Acme Packers site
Giants are going to lose by anywhere from 17-1000 points
Eli is average to downright stinks
Giants haven’t won any games, the other teams lost
Giants haven’t played anyone this year, except the Packers who were not at full strength at the time
We don’t have any individual players that match up with their players
The Giants best plan would be to just forfeit the game
Oh, and these opinions are all based on facts and stats.
teams that wear green have these kinds of fans
it’s best to let them do their thing and ignore them.
Now everyone will say Eli is in Bradys class. F*ck me
by PatNation85 on Nov 6, 2011 4:31 PM PST
by AJ_in_VA on Jan 10, 2012 10:30 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
i dont know
i think the packer fan base is being misrepresented by some people over there.
by The Blood of Eli on Jan 10, 2012 10:31 AM EST up reply actions
I'll take your word for it
I haven’t gone over there yet.
Now everyone will say Eli is in Bradys class. F*ck me
by PatNation85 on Nov 6, 2011 4:31 PM PST
don't bother
nygmen123: Again, without Vick or Maclin, or Cromartie. Injuries don't seem to bother them. They just bring in guys to make plays
nygmen123: Stopped the Pats on the first series. Planted Brady twice. Guess what gang? This team isn't quitting. Or making excuses.
Simms-McC: Yeah -- I wish the Giants were more like the Eagles
nygmen123: In intensity and fight? Right now, so do I.
EAGLES LOSE, 38-20.
by Simms-McConkey on Jan 10, 2012 10:50 AM EST up reply actions
not much intelligent conversation going on
im actually arguing with one of our own, maculis from BBV, about where clay matthews ranks in the top 10 defensive players list on THEIR blog…..
by The Blood of Eli on Jan 10, 2012 10:53 AM EST up reply actions
agreed
the Pack fans that I know are usually well educated and well mannered, much respect to the lot of ’em.
You down wit JPP?
I got 99 problems but a Vick ain't one!
I have been disappointed in the quality of posts there
More BBVers than ACME subscribers!
"Allie Sherman wrecked the Giants!" - my 5th grade bus driver
It is pathetic there
and then they let a Lion’s fan take over there site
This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.
ignore
the idiots! Most Greenbay fans are good football fans. Im sure it is the younger bandwagoners who have no clue what they are talking about.
by BLUEYOU on Jan 10, 2012 10:31 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I find it entertaining, it actually doesn't make me mad, it has the reverse effect
makes me think they might be worried
Exactly. They ARE worried.
and their posts are full of hysteria.
This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.
Bandwagoners yes but
Don’t hate on younger football fans. Not all of us are clueless; just like not all older fans are the brightest bulbs either.
Hyphen
Maybe I should have hyphenated> younger-bandwagoners?
I was making a judgement by the language that they were younger.
I think I am Young so that is not the operative word!
I love that a Lion fan is doing all the trash talk on APC
Ha
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Jan 10, 2012 10:36 AM EST up reply actions
John Wooden
“They Call Me Coach” is a great book for anyone who wants to study leadership or grow as a leader. That’s one I’m more than certain Coughlin has thumbed and worn through the spine on. It’s Wooden’s big coaching memoir and manifesto.
Came across it myself more than 15 years ago and it’s always relevant.
Now everyone will say Eli is in Bradys class. F*ck me
by PatNation85 on Nov 6, 2011 4:31 PM PST
yep, I've seen that
Maybe that’s why I always felt like I understood him and what he was about. That’s why all the stuff about him not caring or being too much of a cold hard ass never made sense to me.
Old school? Sure. Hey, I’m 45, and when it comes to leadership, I’m old school too, though maybe a little less hard assed given the context I work in. But it’s all about helping people realize their best.
The contrast, though, with Rex Ryan could not be more apt. Ed is spot on to flag that.
Now everyone will say Eli is in Bradys class. F*ck me
by PatNation85 on Nov 6, 2011 4:31 PM PST
I'm 30 and I've always liked TC's approach
sometimes his coordinators annoy the crap outta me, but I’ve always liked and respected TC. especially as a person.
I never bought into the “he’s too old to related to these kids”….I think a coach should be a disciplinarian, someone to bring structure, etc.
Fire Fewell
discipline and structre critical for these kids playing football
so young, lots of money, varied backgrounds and – let’s face it – levels of intelligence or abilities to regulate their own behavior.
I work with a lot of professional people so you have to deal with them differently, but core principles of what to stand for, how to set goals, how to approach people are the same.
Wooden uses his pyramid, and that’s one way to do it. It works, and Coughlin has made it work.
Now everyone will say Eli is in Bradys class. F*ck me
by PatNation85 on Nov 6, 2011 4:31 PM PST
Couldn't agree more
I like his old school approach. I am around your age and anymore, I like the throwback mentality. Plus, most of his coordinators have annoyed the hell out of me and I want the current ones gone nonetheless. Would love to see a different approach with Eli’s talent and that of his WRs. Defensively, yeah Fewell got it together this past week, but I want consistency. I do not want to waste Eli’s prime, nor the youth of the team.
same
age and thought.. I like TC. I have issues with his Coordinators but that is neither here nor there.
Regardless of what happens, No playoffs, playoffs, no superblow, superblow.... The 2011/2012 is one of my favorite Giants Teams of all time.
The Pack's O-line
I had read that their were some injuries, but I believe that they are now healthy for the game. Was the O-line banged up the first time we played them? From what I’ve been reading, they seem to think that the guy that came back is a big deal because he’s able to handle JPP on his own. i’m curious if he was able to do this last time we met.
My hope is that even if this is the case, a healthy Tuck/Osi will be able to wreck havoc while their #1 is focused on JPP.
Who has handled JPP one on one this year?
And our DEs get the press, but it starts with the DTs. When they get the push it falls into place.
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
Football - It's Beyond an Addiction, It's a Way of Life.
by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16
I'm bashing my head against the wall trying to remember the name......
He was out, and now will be in against us. I didn’t know if he’d been out all season, and playing on yahoo/espn has just caused frustration. I was hoping someone here knew immediately what I was talking about. I’ll try and dig up the guy’s name…..
i don’t know if he handled JPP 1-on-1 before, or if it’s all hot air from the pack side.
Thanks for the reply either way.
by Fishhead202 on Jan 10, 2012 10:09 AM EST up reply actions
Chad Clifton
I think that they’re saying he can handle JPP on his own.
by Fishhead202 on Jan 10, 2012 10:13 AM EST up reply actions
yep, that's the LT
he was out last time, as was their RG, who they claim is their best OLman. Clifton is solid, assuming he’s fully healthy (dunno what the injury was), but handle JPP 1on1? No one else has… including Peters, D’Brick, and some other pretty solid LTs
during the first preseason game against the packers he used one arm to bend over the panthers pro bowl LT, it was sick
Tony Romo, Michael Vick, and Rex Grossman are down with JPP
Die hard Giants fan since I was 4
J-E-T-S Just-End-The-Season
by JasonPierrePwned on Jan 10, 2012 10:19 AM EST up reply actions
I'm still gushing
over Osi’s little “I’m gonna sack ya with a LT in my baby papoose” move from Sunday
Thank You
Appreciate the replies. Good point that everyone has had to double JPP. I’d have to go back and double check, but it looks like he’s gone against the 3 pro bowl starters. Peters, Staley, and Bushrod. Obviously Clifton was injured, so maybe he’s up there too, I honestly don’t know.
TNYBF – Glad to hear you say that about Tuck/Osi, as that was my thought as well. I just know that I don’t know as much as most others here :)
by Fishhead202 on Jan 10, 2012 10:24 AM EST up reply actions
Did he say 'double check' ? grrrrrrr
lol
This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.
And Boley was coming off of
a 2 game absence due 2 Injury
Why is Tom Quinn still here? I loves me some Coach Clawfin.
You can't handle that kid one-on-one..I don't care who it is..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
i thing i almost cried.
Class act Coughlin. 100% class.
by hit_hard on Jan 10, 2012 10:05 AM EST via mobile reply actions
"If you can't find it in yourself, where will you for it?"
Great qoute. definitely not a junk reader. Another one here (raising left hand in air) who called for TC’s head. While I would still like to see Cowher as our team’s head coach, I am willing to wait a little longer. TC has always carry himself in a respectable manner. He has produced some pretty competitive team over the years as head coach too. He has also been a part of some championship teams as a wr coach (i.e. 86 Giants SB champs) Props given TC. and time bought.
by LoNJDTechnology on Jan 10, 2012 10:10 AM EST via Android app reply actions
I want no part of Cowher...and a 17 year wait...
He’s fun to watch but he took too long to get there..and once he did he bailed out..I’m starting to hate even looking at that guy on TV..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
You know Boobi...
As much as I fuss about Cowher being the Giants HC, I have to admit that he doesn’t seem to be hungry anymore. Honestly, I don’t think that he will come out of retirement and if he does it will probably be years from now. Oh well.
by LoNJDTechnology on Jan 10, 2012 10:26 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
Yeah, he's in no rush to put in 120 hour weeks preparing for a game..
He has a nice cushy analyst job now…
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Absolutely, i dont want to see Cowher with the NYG
This is not the 2007 team.
2011 NYG will have their own legacy.
he was close to the edge again
i wrote in here before the Jets game that if he couldn’t motivate this team to beat the jets, he has lost them. and if he couldnt motivate them then, he would probably never be able to again. but we all know what happened there.i think he bought himself as much time as he wants to coach for the Giants.
by section_112 on Jan 10, 2012 10:25 AM EST up reply actions
who knows, he may even haved saved PF from himself
because after the Saints, PF sure sounded like he was doubling down on his system and blaming the players.
Which is to say, I think PF definitely had help in making some changes.
Now everyone will say Eli is in Bradys class. F*ck me
by PatNation85 on Nov 6, 2011 4:31 PM PST
Fewell was told
there is no doubt in my mind Coughlin told Fewell it s time for plan B.
The best scenerio for the Giants is to win this “tournament” despite Fewell and Fewell gets a HC job somewhere.
lol, it wasnt Plan "b"
it was Plan “Coughlin*” which included the * = dont do this and you are fired on Monday.
Regardless of what happens, No playoffs, playoffs, no superblow, superblow.... The 2011/2012 is one of my favorite Giants Teams of all time.
I firmly beleive TC had a big part in how this defense is performing..Even though
He has too much class to admit…
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
I would have to agree
P.F. started blaming the players.. the players started saying it was the scheme… and then all was quite that Monday. That saturday, we saw our brand new defense.
T.C. put his old 65 year old foot down, and everyone heard!
Regardless of what happens, No playoffs, playoffs, no superblow, superblow.... The 2011/2012 is one of my favorite Giants Teams of all time.
Our defense didn't change till after Washington part 2
Then the stuff we hated was gone. But I’ve heard it was the players more than TC. No one will flat out report it, but I’ve heard that the DBs now go to Phillips house to do film work as a group before game day. Wouldn’t surprise me if Ross and KP were a big part of it. The zone was killing their market value and they are pretty close to contract time.
Now once your DBs refuse to play the zone, you can’t use the no pressure, thumb up your bum approach to the pass rush. Not that I think the DL resisted. But truthfully, the entire D has been changed from an incredibly passive approach, to a very aggressive one.
I don’t think it’s a coincidence that their body language on field is different, winning or losing.
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
Football - It's Beyond an Addiction, It's a Way of Life.
by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16
you see it in everything that they do.
Regardless of what happens, No playoffs, playoffs, no superblow, superblow.... The 2011/2012 is one of my favorite Giants Teams of all time.
Also remember the ex-owner (forget his name)..Said he was sorry he let TC go..
TC said yeah I heard that, just basically brushing it off..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Must be the Jags
They just fired Del Rio, who was pretty bad. He did fine revving up the team he inherited, but that teams talent has been shrinking since TC left.
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
Football - It's Beyond an Addiction, It's a Way of Life.
by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16
I think Conner may have
convinced TC to pop a pain pill for his leg before the interview…
great article on Cruz and his come from nowhere success
I know there have been a lot of these out there, but this one has more in it worth a read.
Even a quote from JR on having signed him and what they thought about it at the time.
Now everyone will say Eli is in Bradys class. F*ck me
by PatNation85 on Nov 6, 2011 4:31 PM PST
Criz does play like a player who was not drafted.
That chip on his shoulder will have severe consequences on all of those teams who ignored him. Glad he is with us.
by LoNJDTechnology on Jan 10, 2012 10:53 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
TC is a very good coach, I have always felt that way!
I think that his “oldschool” style of coaching really works! Everyman is accountable for his actions, or lack of action. He has always had a team first mentality, and understands what the Giant franchise and tradition means and stands for! He is able to motivate players to give thier best on and off the field! He is loyal to a fault sometimes I will admit that. I’m glad he is the coach for this team.
by oldschoolblue64 on Jan 10, 2012 10:31 AM EST reply actions
Agreed, he is team first, expects everybody
He is team first, expects everyone to know their role and job on the team, including himself. I don’t see him meddling in other people’s roles on the team, like some other former Giant Head Coach, or thinking he knew better. And I don’t see Tom ever wanting to bolt to another team.
The crazy bastard never deserves the sort of criticism he receives
but similar to Eli, he just doesn’t really care and deflects it real well. I was never opposed to change, but always would’ve rather he keep his job.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
oh...
“and when you look at past games, for every bit of information…you see #82 flashing. That’s a good thing”.
Yes Tom, that’s a good thing. Welcome back Mario!
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
by Rorschach44 on Jan 10, 2012 10:43 AM EST up reply actions
#82 is going to be a big part of the game
if he want to win…. i expect woodson to be on cruz with tramon on nicks….. manningham needs to step up and….
theres your cue
by The Blood of Eli on Jan 10, 2012 10:49 AM EST up reply actions
I hope they put one on one with Cruz and Nicks
Nicks will Al Harris that poor man.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
by Rorschach44 on Jan 10, 2012 10:53 AM EST up reply actions
well they def learned their lesson wit woodson on nicks... that wont work
i expect nicks to draw the double time with tramon this time as he is more physical than charles…. cruz should be left 1 on 1 more than once
by The Blood of Eli on Jan 10, 2012 10:54 AM EST up reply actions
Well..we proved Sunday, that a defense can't handle all of our receivers..
And now Ballard will be healthier…GB has their work cut out for them..They are going to be facing a defense that is 3X better than the last game..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Ok Coach Bobbi (or whoever cares to respond)
How do we win on Sunday? How do we limit Packers scoring machine – Rodgers super-quick release and ability to avoid the rush and 4 superb receivers, along with Finley, a great receiving TE? Do you really think we can win this game? I dont see it but I’d like to be convinced.
DavebrownNOT
Haha!!!..love it 'Coach Bobbi'...
Well the crucial aspect of the game will be to keep Rodgers off the field..and you and I and everybody out here knows what must happen..We need that running game to be what it was Sunday, maybe even more so..and minimize the home run throws (unless of course they are wide open)..I’d rather our passing game takes yardage in chunks, not acres..Obviously minimize penalties and protect the ball..no turnovers..Our defense needs to keep playing like they have been and pressure Rodgers..I really believe they are facing a different, stronger Giants defense..We saw what happens when you give that guy 58 seconds..
So, if we do this..I think our chances are pretty darn good..I don’t think they have a better team than ours..We already proved that with a defense that was not playing well..I see us moving on to the next chapter..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Coach Bobbi (no flattery intended)
Yes we are better than we were when we played them earlier. BUT, do you really think we can beat their OLine, which is getting back some studs who’ve been injured, and put enough pressure on Rodgers that he cant time his throws the way he’d like? Is our DLine good enough to do that, despite the improvement in its play? Also what worries me is that it always seems to take our Offense a few sets of downs to get its rhythm. We absolutely cannot afford for that to happen this game.
And is our mid-line pass defense improved enough to stop GB from making 1st downs at will? And if we play press, can their receivers be stopped man to man? I hope you’re right, but I havent convinced myself yet there is a scenario which can win us this game.
DavebrownNOT
we send pressure..
Their O-Line cannot handle our D-line. JWill/Boley have shut down every pro bowl TE they have come across. We stopped playing the stupid umbrella zone. They will score points… but our offense will score more. If our defense can hold them to 3-5 punts and 1-2 field goals we win easy.
Dont forget, our defense could be considered bad, theirs is worse.
in the end, that is who wins right?? if our team scores more than the other… well, at least most of the time when dealing with the Giants right??
Regardless of what happens, No playoffs, playoffs, no superblow, superblow.... The 2011/2012 is one of my favorite Giants Teams of all time.
Their D-line isn't anything to write home about..Eli should have all day to throw
and our running game should have lanes open up..They do however have a decent O-line..but again the Giant defense they face this week is way, way better than our last game..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
They're not 15-1 by chance
This team is very good. They’ve lost what, one out of their last 20 or 21 games?
I’m all in, but the Giants are going to have to summon a game from someplace they haven’t yet this year. If they’re really hitting on all cylinders, then this performance will need to be the next gear or two above the Falcon game.
"Allie Sherman wrecked the Giants!" - my 5th grade bus driver
I agree with that..they have an impressive record..
But that is ancient history now..This is the tournament..a whole new season..Plus I’ll also submit a belief I have always had..Those ‘Buy Weeks’ tend to do more harm than good..IMO..Our team has been building up steam, while they are laying around idle…It’s all about momentum..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Clay might straight up murder McKenzie
by The Cole Train on Jan 10, 2012 12:46 PM EST up reply actions
I have a feeling McKenzie is pissed at himself..
I see a good solid game out of him..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
I think the road to victory has to be
purely a physical, smash-mouth approach. We must win the battles up front and in the words of LT, come out like crazed dogs. Then, and only then, the Packers might realize they’ve not yet encountered a physical juggernaut like us and adjust their game. Give them a similar feeling they had in the 1st half in Thanksgiving game vs Detroit. (Lions blew it with physical over-exuberance early in 2nd half.) This would give us the upper hand. But we’ve gotta hit them every chance we get, and do it legally too. Also think we have to find a way to get Petrus in as one of the Guards as he can really steamroll as a run blocker. But how do we do that w/o giving away the play? Petras not good as a pass blocker.
DavebrownNOT
We win easy?
Figure 12 possessions for the game. 4 punts and 2 FG’s leaves 6 TD’s, 42 pts + 2 FG’s is 48 points. We’d have to score 50 to win. Hardly the right formula, I’m afraid.
DavebrownNOT
12 possesions??
the saints scored on all of thier 7 possessions this past week.
12 is being a little ridiculous..
But hey man, we each see what we want to see.
Regardless of what happens, No playoffs, playoffs, no superblow, superblow.... The 2011/2012 is one of my favorite Giants Teams of all time.
They had 10
The saints did not score on all of their possessions this past week. They scored on all the possessions on which they didn’t turn the ball over or have the half end.
They had 10 possessions if you ignore the kneel down at the end of the 1st.
I stand corrected
Giants had 10 this weekend as well.. If you ignore the kneel down.
4 punts, 2 field goals. I was basing that off of 7-8 possesions… What I was trying to say, hold them to 20-24 points, we win easily.
Like I said, we each see what we want to see.. lol
Regardless of what happens, No playoffs, playoffs, no superblow, superblow.... The 2011/2012 is one of my favorite Giants Teams of all time.
First off
We did limit their scoring machine at home
They had a pick six recall
We outgained them
TO’s were equal
Defense is much improved
Offense will need to be on point and match them TO for TO or beat them.
It might be last one with the ball wins
We are expected to lose and that bodes well usually for the Gmen
A VERY, VERY dangerous road team in the playoffs.
It is better to be silent and be thought a fool, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt.
not to mention
we had a score taken away… and the refs gave them a score, that is a point swing of at most 14 points… and we only lost by 3, playing in our worst stretch of football this year…
yeah I like our chances
Regardless of what happens, No playoffs, playoffs, no superblow, superblow.... The 2011/2012 is one of my favorite Giants Teams of all time.
wasn't bradshaw out too?
It is better to be silent and be thought a fool, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt.
I think so
we had something like 3-4 injured starters on Defense
3 starters injured on Offense…
I thought Bradshaw was one of them. but I hate being inaccurate whenever I post, so dont quote me on that.
Regardless of what happens, No playoffs, playoffs, no superblow, superblow.... The 2011/2012 is one of my favorite Giants Teams of all time.
Yeah we had a score taken away..and they got a gift...
Also, yes I believe AB was out…and BJ couldn’t run his way out of a paper bag…That’s why it became an air war..
When you put Eli up against Rodgers the game quickly becomes a ‘pick-em’..Whichever one gets the ball last will win..We don’t want that to happen this time..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Well we gave up too many points..and that last 58 seconds almost
Resulted in me having to go out and replace the TV..But that won’t happen this time around..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
*almost go out...
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Another thought on GB (and NO, for that matter)
It’s all come so easy to them all year. Just suit up, show up, and put up a 45 or 48 point effort.
Can they really sustain it? Have they really been in a true dogfight, where guys are being carried off, there’s a couple of 3 and outs, players are arguing with one another because the machinery ain’t working?
This is the intangible the Giants bring to the game. If we’re down 14-0 after 8 minutes, well, that would not surprise them. But if the Pack takes a few shots to the mouth, how do they respond?
Strike first, and hard, in this one. Stake out our territory, tell ‘em we’re not going anywhere…and we’ll see what they’re really made of.
We’ve made the 1980’s 49ers and ’skins quit…we took the swagger out of the Bills in ’90, me made the Vikings quit in 2000…we made Dallas fold in 07…we won an ice bowl in GB in 07…NE stumbled and fell and had enough in 07…the Falcons quit Sunday.
We’ve got to take them outta their game.
"Allie Sherman wrecked the Giants!" - my 5th grade bus driver
by Dick J on Jan 10, 2012 12:33 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
its all about the pass rush
no one can be comfortable with all that coming at you. And if they’re maintaining their gap discipline, Rodgers won’t be able to run for those annoying first downs.
That’s really the key. Can our defense get off the damn field, either by their own doing (third down) or by our offense sustaining drives.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
by Rorschach44 on Jan 10, 2012 12:38 PM EST up reply actions
sheild and williams usually play outside with Woodson inside (for the most part)
having said that….all the NYG WRs could match up with all the GB CBs.
I’d attack Tramon w/ Manningham actually and just run go routes all day….try to get Cruz on Shields, and let Nicks battle w/ Woodson
Fire Fewell
id love to see woodson on nicks again
something tells me the packers dont want to see that though. if i were them i would have tramon follow nicks around all day and let woodson cover the other two
by The Blood of Eli on Jan 10, 2012 11:07 AM EST up reply actions
I'd like to see Woodson
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Jan 10, 2012 11:12 AM EST up reply actions
best part about that is the pound woodson gave nicks afterwards
by The Blood of Eli on Jan 10, 2012 11:17 AM EST up reply actions
much respect
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Jan 10, 2012 11:18 AM EST up reply actions
A lot of talk about WR/DB matchups...
but I’m looking for Jacobs and Bradshaw to pave the way. A little ball control, shorten the game, punish the Packer defense…this is essential for a W. I do not want a shootout with this team.
The run game has been contributing more and more the last few weeks; expect it to continue. The O-line wants to run block and the ground game will give way to play action shots downfield.
"Allie Sherman wrecked the Giants!" - my 5th grade bus driver
The Giants are now a pass first team
But that Does not mean KILLdrive has to play that way in every situation!
This game calls for Ball control- The O line is healthy, The RBs are healthy – Pound it! then unleash the pass attack!
A little history lesson from '07
Rushed for 134 v. Pack, allowed 28
Rushed for 91 v. NE, allowed 45
It works!
"Allie Sherman wrecked the Giants!" - my 5th grade bus driver
Jacobs started to come back to life against Green Bay
- needs the damn ball. When we get the ball on O, they need to start out with him and a heavy dose of Juggernaut.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
by Rorschach44 on Jan 10, 2012 11:57 AM EST up reply actions
I like that plan..
ease the butterflies with Manning and his minions..
Regardless of what happens, No playoffs, playoffs, no superblow, superblow.... The 2011/2012 is one of my favorite Giants Teams of all time.
more so the minions
than manning, because “unstoppable, Eli Manning is”
Regardless of what happens, No playoffs, playoffs, no superblow, superblow.... The 2011/2012 is one of my favorite Giants Teams of all time.
Yeah Eli won't have any butterflies...
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Based on the above game plans from Bobbi
I see him looking for a bit of old-time Giants smash mouth football with both the offense and defense dictating the action. In the playoffs you do not win by letting the other guys do what they’ve set out to do.
NY must set the tone, and force GB to play to our game.
"Allie Sherman wrecked the Giants!" - my 5th grade bus driver
that deserves a
Hella WORD!
Regardless of what happens, No playoffs, playoffs, no superblow, superblow.... The 2011/2012 is one of my favorite Giants Teams of all time.
Exactly right...
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Bobbi is hoping Rodgers will freeze to death while
Giants are on long, ball controlled, touchdown drives
Loved Seeing the Old Jacobs Last Week
My wife gave me an odd look after saying “God I missed you BJ!” hahaha
I hope he can carry that fire going forward. I feel like his energy was feeding much of that team.
by Fishhead202 on Jan 10, 2012 12:15 PM EST up reply actions
Hahaha!!!!..Geezus cry'in here!!!hahaha!!
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
I give my wife that look as well
but not any avail
It is better to be silent and be thought a fool, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt.
An Eli to Cruz/Nicks/MM TD is great...
but nothing jacks up the lineman, and, I think, our defense, as when Jacobs has one of those north-south 14 yard rambles leaving a body or two in his wake.
The big boys feed off of him. And we need him big time on Sunday, with that same attitude and passion when he runs.
"Allie Sherman wrecked the Giants!" - my 5th grade bus driver
Do we really have to wait 5 more days for this thing?
Tee it up and let’s go!
"Allie Sherman wrecked the Giants!" - my 5th grade bus driver
MAKE BIG PLAYS!!!
There, i’ll say it for him since he’s late lol
by Nicks4Six on Jan 10, 2012 11:27 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
+1
late to my own party, as usual…
by Step up and make big plays on Jan 10, 2012 11:37 AM EST up reply actions
We always cover for ya!!
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
unrelate and concerned
this thing about the death of the son of the packers offe. coord. is sad, as parent obviously you don´t want nobody going through that.
as fan, it worries me, this is the kind of thing that makes the players play extra hard for their coach.
I won't ask the questions over there because I guess it's unsympathetic at this point
but am I the only one that finds a random missing, dead 21 year-old a bit odd? When I first heard “Coaches Son Missing” I was thinking like a little kid got kidnapped or lost. It just seems there’s a lot more to this story that’s not being told. Just weird.
I thought the same at first...I guess we'll have to wait for the result of the investigation..
But he was a Son they lost and that is tragic..I really don’t know how I’d fathom being able to handle that..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
not for a second
do I think this reduces the tragedy of it, I just feel like it’s developing into the 600 lb. pink gorilla in the corner. I’m not a parent, but I can’t fathom how I’d deal with it either.
Tony Dungy's son
was that late in the season? Playoffs? I’m not sure, but a very similar and tragic circumstance.
"Allie Sherman wrecked the Giants!" - my 5th grade bus driver
Yes it was..He was torn, but somehow he was able to tough it out..
I don’t know how he did it, I guess he relied on his faith..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Coughlin
Great article on coach Coughlin! one more reason why I love the guy,perfect man to lead this great franchise,I wonder how many of those players who said they would not want to play for him also had issues with authority. Tough love seems to work for TC,players come around{Strahan,Rolle},players might bitch but they need the firm hand.Good luck Tom and go Giants!
Looking at links on the Packers page led me to this link
href=“http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ths70-zBdQA&feature=related”
Brought a tear to my eye yet again
In trying to scramble out of a hole, it sometimes digs it deeper. ~Wellington Mara
I always root for the defense. ~Wellington Mara
LINK FAIL!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ths70-zBdQA&feature=related
In trying to scramble out of a hole, it sometimes digs it deeper. ~Wellington Mara
I always root for the defense. ~Wellington Mara
DOUBLE FAIL!!!
I don’t know why it won’t attach properly…cutting and pasting what is there works, but not the link itself
In trying to scramble out of a hole, it sometimes digs it deeper. ~Wellington Mara
I always root for the defense. ~Wellington Mara
Haha!!.."Strike two!!!"
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Lets not try to over achieve...It can lead to failure

I got a GIF for that!
by Fester McDougal on Jan 10, 2012 11:47 AM EST up reply actions
That's what happens when you take a ride on my Cow Catapult...
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
I'm watching it now
I’m still nervous about the 4th and 1, lol
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Jan 10, 2012 11:49 AM EST up reply actions
TC is old school in a good way. Sets high standards for entire team and above all himself. Cares about his players and stays on message: Team, Team, Team.
Being one of the kids, relating to them as a peer is overblown. Just ask the TB Bucs and their coach or our favorite NY coach Rex.
this season turned my opinion 180 degrees
Last couple of years I complained endlessly about TC. Thought that he was the reason this team was missing the playoffs. Thought he couldn’t adjust. And thought he was just too old to work in today’s game.
Then this year happened. And I watched him disprove every last one of my doubts about the man. He did adjust. He did keep the season on track when it easily could’ve gone awry. He did bring young ploayers along and trust them in big situations. His game plans aren’t what he likes to do, but he has worked with the talent he has to get the best product on the field that he could.
My sig used to read “Prove me wrong TC” I removed it once he did.
You down wit JPP?
I got 99 problems but a Vick ain't one!
whenever I get down about TC
I look over to the green side of the NFC East, and remember how lucky we are… We could be stuck with Andy Reid.
Regardless of what happens, No playoffs, playoffs, no superblow, superblow.... The 2011/2012 is one of my favorite Giants Teams of all time.
21 days
I believe it will be 3 weeks since the Packers went all out with their starters in a game- Does anyone think that will be a factor- i.e. rust?
I find it hard to believe a team can just turn it on and be the same team we saw in november for a Playoff game.
I made a comment relative to that above...
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
For the first qtr perhaps
We need to strike early and get a lead before their timing starts coming together.
I got a GIF for that!
by Fester McDougal on Jan 10, 2012 2:23 PM EST up reply actions
Respect all, fear none, stay humble in victory, and FINISH!!!

"The saddest thing in life is wasted talent"
by Larry Soprano on Jan 10, 2012 12:34 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
...and "Battle Tested"!!!
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
We had a good week of practice
I got a GIF for that!
by Fester McDougal on Jan 10, 2012 12:53 PM EST up reply actions
I've always liked TC
Although, I have never been a KG fan. I just think he lacks creativity and is too predictable. He’s not terrible, but not great either.
by Giant Ken on Jan 10, 2012 1:30 PM EST via mobile reply actions
KG learned from the Dallas game. Do not let up, be aggressive. Do not go conservative.
We can always find fault in our coaches and coordinators. KG and PF have their flaws, but they eventually adjust. Imaginative and successful OCs are rare. They often become HC, Sean Payton comes to mind.
I wonder why no one wants KG or PF
They are not being interviewed by any team.
There is a huge coordinator carousel happening in teams that have lost. still no love for KG or PF
and that tells something.
For one thing teams tend to recycle previous HC. Fisher, Turner, Shottenheimer, Shannahan, Crenell...
Very few go outside NFL (SF and Seattle being exceptions). Also some folks are better at the OC/DC level Spags and McDaniels comes to mind.
UCONN
wanted KG to run their entire football program.
I believe they wanted to interview him....or did interview him
but I don’t think it ever got to the offer stage….
Fire Fewell
apparently he was lost without the Polaroids in front of him
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
yeah it tells me that
WE’re still playing, and therefore they are not going to be taking time away to interview for other jobs.
You down wit JPP?
I got 99 problems but a Vick ain't one!

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