Why Kawika Mitchell?
With Jonathan Goff down for the season with an ACL tear I know you guys are gnashing your teeth trying to figure out what the New York Giants should do at middle linebacker. It seems likely that the Giants will sign veteran Kawika Mitchell if he looks healthy when he visits the Timex Performance Center for a workout. I thought I would burn a little midnight oil and give you what I think are the reasons why the choice will be Mitchell instead of any of the other names mentioned.
We will get to Mitchell eventually, but first let's go through some of the other names I have heard bandied about.
Lofa Tatupu: 'GiantsReignSupreme' asked 'Why have we not signed Lofa Tatupu?' in a Fanpost Tuesday evening. Fact is, it's the same reason none of the other 31 NFL teams have signed him yet, either. The consensus around the league seems to be that the three-time Pro Bowler's knees are shot. He was a great player from 2005-2007, but hasn't been the same the past three seasons.
Keith Bulluck: After spending last season with the Giants, the 34-year-old has still not found a job. I thought Bulluck might be the Giants' first call, but remember that the Giants only played him part time last season and seemed to decide the middle was not the place for him. Defensive coordinator Perry Fewell has also coached Mitchell, and this move simply makes it seem like Fewell prefers a healthy Mitchell to a healthy Bulluck.
Phillip Dillard: The Giants cut the 2010 fourth-round pick over the weekend, and bringing him back once Goff went down might have been an easy thing to do. Reaching out to Mitchell, though, tells you a lot about what the Giants think of Dillard's ability to play in the league. General manager Jerry Reese can be as stubborn as an old mule when it comes to parting with draft choices, and the fact that the Giants did not reach out Dillard tells you they don't believe he is an NFL-caliber middle linebacker.
Chase Blackburn: First of all, let's be honest here. If the Giants thought Blackburn was a quality middle linebacker at the NFL level they would have given him the job a couple of years ago when Antonio Pierce went down instead of giving it to Goff. He was a popular guy and a good special teams player, but he is not a starting middle linebacker. Blackburn has not been able to find a job this season, and good friend Pat Traina of Inside Football wondered via Twitter if Blackburn is actually healthy enough to play right now.
As for Mitchell, he was a popular player and an under-appreciated part of the Giants' Super Bowl-winning team in 2007. He has played both in the middle and on the outside in his career, and has one full season and part of a second under his belt playing for Fewell. The fact that the Giants reached out to the 31-year-old tells you Fewell appreciates him.
The question will be how healthy he is, and how long he can hold up. Mitchell has played just six games the past two seasons and has suffered foot and knee injuries.
The Giants will have to turn to sixth-round pick Greg Jones to begin the season. I think everyone can see that Jones has ability, and that getting him so late in the draft was a coup for the Giants. Question is, without any summer mini-camps or exposure to the Giants' defensive playbook, can Jones quarterback a defense that cannot afford missteps if the Giants are going to get back to the playoffs for the first time in three years?
We will find out the answer soon enough.
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yeah why?
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
Giant LB'z SUCK!!? Mark Herzlich, Greg Jones,Spencer Paysinger...Maybe not..
Given the work ethic that has been reported for Greg Jones
I wouldn’t be surprised if he were up to speed. That said, I doubt Coughlin would be comfortable giving the job to a rookie, regardless of the progress made
Team Intervention:
Greg Jones
Tyler Sash
Jason Pierre-Paul
Will Beatty
Justin Trattou
by BigBlueIntervention on Sep 6, 2011 9:43 PM EDT reply actions
Jones
Well, for now he has no choice. Can’t bring a guy in with no training camp/preseason who is new to the defense, stick him at middle linebacker and expect everything to be just fine. Jones has to be the MLB at the start.
Of course, but at this point, I'm not sure how much of an upgrade Mitchell would be
He brings experience…and there is much to be said for experience, but Jones brings youth, better upside, (I think) better instincts, more athleticism, and a lower penchant for getting injured (though who knows by now haha).
Just explaining my thoughts on why Reese might go after Mitchell besides just depth. I think TC plays a large part in it.
Team Intervention:
Greg Jones
Tyler Sash
Jason Pierre-Paul
Will Beatty
Justin Trattou
by BigBlueIntervention on Sep 6, 2011 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Jones may surprise
Good post Ed. Thanks for answering the questions. I asked about Dillard. Your answer says it all.
Giants will be OK at Mike. Goff was solid. No more. He was not a top 15 MLB. Jones will be OK. Herzlich may play some. Boley will help with calls.
It is a patchwork but a workable one.
Bring lawyers, guns and money to get me out of this one! Stand in the Fire.
Reality check
We’re not exactly replacing a pro-bowl LB with Jones. Goff was a middling (pun intended) MLB. I think it will be hard to notice a significant drop off. Of course, mistakes in coverage can be very costly, but we’ll see soon enough.
Goff
was a far-from-middling run stopping LB.Plus he ran the defense on the field. Make no mistake, he will be greatly missed.
Your First Ever Pinstripe Bowl Champions- The Syracuse Orange
by bigbluethruandthru on Sep 6, 2011 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions
He's the single most underrated, underappreciated player on this team.
If he had Antonio Pierce’s swagger and demeanor (instead of just being a guy who goes and does his job), everyone would love him and rave about him.
It’s kind of a shame that he gets so easily overlooked. He’s one of the best run stoppers in the game.
Retaliation is related to nature and instinct, not to law. Law, by definition, cannot obey the same rules as nature. - Albert Camus
Couldnt agree with you more
He was slated for a pro-bowl worthy year in my estimation, he was surely the general out there for us, he will be back at MLB for us next year.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
I wouldn't be on it
Jones will have a full year of playing time to learn the position, plus the off-season, and next years training camp/pre-season to cement himself as the starter. He has already shown everybody that he has great ability. What makes you think Goff (a good but not great LB), on a surgically repaired knee, will be able to come back and take the position away from a young, talented, physical specimen like Jones? Unless you mean he will be back as the backup MLB…
by NYStateofMind on Sep 7, 2011 1:25 AM EDT up reply actions
Dont even argue my friend
he knows not what he says.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
yes
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
Giant LB'z SUCK!!? Mark Herzlich, Greg Jones,Spencer Paysinger...Maybe not..
thanks
I actually went and found out for myself after asking that and saw that he had…
So at least we have aguy that is prepared right away…
At this point I am no longer freaking out.
Someone said this a few weeks ago, “Sounds like the prelude to a Super Bowl champions video”
Go Big Blue!
You want your mike to make the calls
Doing that only slows Boley down
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
you got to remember it's Fewell's defense
left is right and right is left
Sam is Wil and Wil is Sam
but I have heard him say in interviews last year that the Wil
also makes a lot of calls…
Team Monster:
JPP
"Da Real" Scott
Greg JONES
Herzlich
Paysinger
Jacquin Williams
and SASH
I disagree
plus, Goff comes out and Boley stays in when they go 3 safeties…so having Boley make the calls will help make this transition seamless.
I got banned from Jests Blog for saying Chad Henne has better stats than Mark Sanchez. And they think they're the big brothers in this town? LMAO try again little sisters!
Let's Go Giants!!!!
why not?
i have nothing bad to say about what he did while he was here
"I like prime rib, and I'd love to win a Super Bowl" -Andy Reid
The guy
knows the defense and was always super aggressive during the blitz.
Welcome back.
Please get Phil Simms in the Hall of Fame
If Mitchell has anything left
Not a bad signing, they guy knows the game that’ s for sure. Anybody know anything about how healthy he is now?
by Late for Dinner on Sep 6, 2011 10:02 PM EDT reply actions
I have to think that Fewell had a hand in this
Team Ghost: Manningham, Sintim, Beckum, Barden, JPP, Anvil, Ross
them signing Mitchell speaks to state of useless LBs out there
but also due to contracts not being guaranteed to vets after week 1. Sign anyone now, they stink and you may eat the contract. After week 1 you can tell them to eat it
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
These players are cannon fodder!
This is a cruel sport. How can anyone make pre-season predictons? If Colts lose Peyton or any other team loses its QB, you’re in big trouble.
no good
Goff was improving .. I was expecting a very solid season from him at the least. I would never trust a rookie mlb at all. A mlb has a lot to worry about. A rookie not knowing the defense 100% is asking for a lot of trouble.
by wrxsti28 on Sep 6, 2011 10:13 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
its been done before ..
1.Jon Beason
2.Brian Urlacher
3.Rey Maualuga
4.D’Qwell Jackson
5.Lofa Tatupu
6.DeMeco Ryans
7.Jonathan Vilma
8.David Harris
9.Patrick Willis
10.James Laurinaitis
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
Giant LB'z SUCK!!? Mark Herzlich, Greg Jones,Spencer Paysinger...Maybe not..
Funny thing is...
all those guys that were successful were first or high second round picks
I'm not drunk I'm just drinking.
by no1pipelayer on Sep 6, 2011 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions
yep
not many if any later round picks get a chance to start their rookie yrs. This being a rare circumstance.
Couple late 2nds up there as well.
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
Giant LB'z SUCK!!? Mark Herzlich, Greg Jones,Spencer Paysinger...Maybe not..
We've got a 4th rounder starting for us.
Maybe we’ll get a little insight into who evaluates LBs better this year.
I'm not drunk I'm just drinking.
by no1pipelayer on Sep 7, 2011 12:09 AM EDT up reply actions
Funny thing is...
Jones was expected to be a first or high second round pick
Retaliation is related to nature and instinct, not to law. Law, by definition, cannot obey the same rules as nature. - Albert Camus
Remember...
It wasn’t just the other 31 dumb teams that passed on him. the Giants passed on him 5 times too.
I'm not drunk I'm just drinking.
by no1pipelayer on Sep 6, 2011 11:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Sorry
four times. I thought they drafted Sash before him.
I'm not drunk I'm just drinking.
by no1pipelayer on Sep 7, 2011 12:19 AM EDT up reply actions
plus the had OTAs
I got banned from Jests Blog for saying Chad Henne has better stats than Mark Sanchez. And they think they're the big brothers in this town? LMAO try again little sisters!
Let's Go Giants!!!!
Hope Jones can be the 11th on that list
or whoever takes Goff’s place. But with the lockout, rookies this year will be in at the deep end – hope this doesn’t lead to miscommunications and disaster.
Who knows, maybe we will even see Mark Herzlich on the field sooner than expected.
by XYU on Sep 7, 2011 4:28 AM EDT up reply actions
I hope Jones pans out...
But he isn’t ready to QB the defense yet. Kawika can do that. Even if he isn’t his old self he can still get everyone else into place. Jones can’t do that yet. Even if KW goes down in a few games it gives Jones more time to learn the D. Win win I think.
To err is human.
To forgive is divine.
Neither is Marine Corps Policy.
Jones is our Weak 1 Mike
Kawika has played 5 game the last two seasons, and 3 or 4 days to get ready for the skins. Looks like Jones is the guy on Sunday like it or not.
by Late for Dinner on Sep 6, 2011 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Don't mind bringing back Mitchell
…except for the injury issue. Clearly we need healthy bodies – another injury prone player is not what the doctor ordered. Can Hrzlich play MLB? Cause if he can then I’d predict he’s starting by mid season.
double duty now
"Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit amphetamines."
Plays all three
dot matter where they list him, i say give the Job to Jones or Herz, i say Herz even more cause his A gap pressure is phenominal and we love to do that with our MIKE.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
Herzlich made some good plays at MLB
He may not be far behind Jones on the depth chart. But Jones has the advantage of playing MLB the last year or two in college, while Herzlich was an OLB.
"Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit amphetamines."
Missing the obvious choice
Tiki Barber should get a shot!
In all seriousness, I hope Mitchell is just for depth because I’d much rather see what Jones and Herzlich can do before Mitchell sees extended playing time
Self-praise is for losers. Be a winner. Stand for something. Always have class, and be humble.
-John Madden
Jones
i remember day 2 of draft with everyone up in arms over the missing of one mason foster. at this point, it looks like he was a solid choice and while JJ12 has potential, it still eludes me why JR skipped over him in the 3rd.
That being said, I never freaked cause I knew Jones was available hoping we’d take him in the 4th. Having gotten him in the 6th was even better, as he now has a bit of a chip on his shoulder while he’s out there trying to prove his name. Had he come out his junior year, this guy may have been a 1st round selection due to production alone. This guy balls HARD and I have no doubt that given some time, he can be a total stud at MLB and a better tackling machine than the Poz or any of those names people wanted.
Jones, this is your time. Better step up and make big plays
I see Blue, he looks glorious!
Tampa is different
Foster is starting not because of how great he is, its more that everyone else is the equivalent of Chase Blackburn. I’d bet you could poll the ESPN and NFLN staffs and they could not name one backup LB on Tampa. I don’t think I can.
Rather than Foster, you have to wonder if Sturdivant is worth a look now. May not be any more ready than Jones, but could have long-term potential. The fact that the Cards cut him means nothing to me, even if they were running a 4-3 and not a 3-4.
"Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit amphetamines."
sturdivant was already signed to the practice squad, but I was thinking the same
Team Intervention:
Greg Jones
Tyler Sash
Jason Pierre-Paul
Will Beatty
Justin Trattou
by BigBlueIntervention on Sep 6, 2011 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions
We could sign him off their practice squad
Kawika will be around in a week or two if it seems we really need him.
Some surprising cuts today. Garrard. AJ Edds. Butler not that surprising.
"Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit amphetamines."
The Bucs could have kept Ruud
and let Foster learn behind him. Instead they chose to release Ruud and give a rookie the reigns in a lockout-shortened off-season.
Team Ghost: Manningham, Sintim, Beckum, Barden, JPP, Anvil, Ross
They thought Ruud stunk
The fanbase was happy to see him go.
"Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit amphetamines."
Fanbase?
What do they know
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
Nope Foster is starting because of how good he is
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
Ed of all pictures you could find...
We have seen enough guys carted of the field this preseason with season ending injuries. Now you had to pick a picture of Mitchell getting carted off before we even sign him??? Geez the subliminal negativity around here is just increasing.
by bdasilva7785 on Sep 6, 2011 11:09 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
yeah seriously - why not a pic from sb42 - i know there's 1 of him post-victory out there..
by BigBlueDeadHead on Sep 6, 2011 11:30 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Boom!

Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 6, 2011 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions
wow
we found the same picture I was just slower haha
by bdasilva7785 on Sep 6, 2011 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions
lol, nice
2 is better then 1
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 6, 2011 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Problem is
SB Nation has rights to certain photos from AP & Getty Images. Technically, for me to go and get that photo below is a copyright violation because SBN does not have rights to use it. We can’t just go grab whatever photos we want off the Internet.
the eagles deserve this type of punishment for Vick....what is going on with all of these injuries????
…at least we start the season at the ’skins
come on man
the eagles deserve this type of punishment for Vick.
lets try an do better then that.
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
Giant LB'z SUCK!!? Mark Herzlich, Greg Jones,Spencer Paysinger...Maybe not..
how about
The Eagles deserve to go 6-10 with no injuries to use as an excuse.
"Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit amphetamines."
haha, sold!
worried about this karma thing, i hear things about her..
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
Giant LB'z SUCK!!? Mark Herzlich, Greg Jones,Spencer Paysinger...Maybe not..
Mitchell played great football for us
I was sad to see us lose him. The LB skeptic here is actually going to hold out a little hope Kawika has a little end of career resurgence glory with us. Let’s be honest Goff was not a stud at the position. If healthy I believe Kawika is actually an upgrade at the position.
A guy that could not get invited to any of 32 camps can't be that good
Remember Bulluck last year?
"Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit amphetamines."
Wasn't Bulluck playing out of position last year at the SAM???
I thought he was a MLB for all those years with the Titans
by bdasilva7785 on Sep 6, 2011 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions
He was a WILL in Tennessee
But he did not have the speed anymore. No camp invites for him this year either.
"Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit amphetamines."
OK but we did give him a try in the middle last year if my memory serves me right...
During camp he was put there and beat out by Goff for the position.
by bdasilva7785 on Sep 6, 2011 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions
I believe you are mostly right
My recollection is that Bulluck was signed because we were worried about Goff not being ready. Then either Bulluck could not beat him or we decided Goff was ready, and moved Bulluck to SAM.
"Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit amphetamines."
no, actually
he was put there and Goff beat him out. But then, he beat out Sintim
I got banned from Jests Blog for saying Chad Henne has better stats than Mark Sanchez. And they think they're the big brothers in this town? LMAO try again little sisters!
Let's Go Giants!!!!
Yes he played SAM which is our Wil
in reality, well in our Base alignment…………….He played MLB in nickle down in Tenn.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
Key parts of my post
“Hope” and “if helathy”. He didn’t get invited to 32 camps because the combo of age and recent injury makes him too risky to use a roster spot on if you have younger healthier options. Here’s the reality, we don’t have better options. All that feel good of oh yippee we kept 4 rooks is coming home as reality now. I’m hoping Kawika is healthy, because if so he is our best hope right now. The young guys show potential, but there is a reason they were all late or UDFA just like there is a reason Kawika didn’t get invited to camps.
no doubt and it was his first season in that position
he did fairly well, and he is always there to stop the run
Die hard Giants fan since wide Right! I was 5...
I'm down wit JPP
Yea you know me
There's no way he's an upgrade
But let’s hope he’s servicable
Self-praise is for losers. Be a winner. Stand for something. Always have class, and be humble.
-John Madden
There's a saying I heard once
I think from Barry Melrose, that old players get older, young players get better. Not that Goff is old, but I like the idea of building depth on our team by throwing young players into the fire to help them learn faster. It could be ugly at first, but it’ll get better. Promise. Jones, Linval, Cruz… These guys are gonna be solid. I can’t wait for Sunday to see how it all plays out. I’m done with the off-season speculation. Time for the regular season.
Small defencemen? What small defencemen?
being results oriented
maybe coughlin is running his bootcamp too hard…
how in the world can there be this many injuries before week1?
I’m in it for the blame game. flame away
oh hi
Why Mitchell?
Well, let’s see here. Perhaps because all of our LB’s are unproven late round picks or UDFA’s aside from Boley, mediocre and serviceable. Not that they won’t get the job done if given the chance, but here we go with signing the injured, old, just off of surgery so we can put a body on the field. I think the question is the lack of time with the playbook. That’s kind of what happens when you ignore a position as badly as this organization has. Continual late round picks and trying to fit a square peg in a round hole hybrid type players (Sintim, Tracy) at a position where the guy has to call the defense and make adjustments. I’d play Jones. Let’s see what we have. The team has looked awful to mediocre in the pre. If we start shedding games, I’d say play the young guys and let’s see where we are.
you forgot to mention
that it’s also the least meaningful position in our defense.
I got banned from Jests Blog for saying Chad Henne has better stats than Mark Sanchez. And they think they're the big brothers in this town? LMAO try again little sisters!
Let's Go Giants!!!!
It seems as though
asking for a healthy Mitchell is a lot at this point. I still fail to see how he’s a better option than Bulluck.
The NFL and NFLPA? They can kiss my ass, OK? They can line up and kiss my ass.
can't wait
to see opposing teams take advantage of this ugly mess…
they’re just gonna own us with TE
oh hi
It could be worse
last time I checked, Grossman is still the Redskins QB for the week.
"Hey Petr, Smrdíš jako prase!" -Bobby Granger
now we're being compared to redskins standards?
shame on u!
oh hi
by oh on Sep 7, 2011 2:38 AM EDT up reply actions
Quick, let's get Bomar back!
Team Monster:
JPP
"Da Real" Scott
Greg JONES
Herzlich
Paysinger
Jacquin Williams
and SASH
It's reminding me of 1983
Too many injuries and the losses mounted
Ended up with the 3rd pick that was Carl Banks
"That's mostly fans who say that kind of stuff and they really don't understand the process. We have good players on the team. We're not looking to go out and make every sexy splash that can be made. We make solid football decisions. That's been happening for a long time," Reese said
the talent on the defense and offense is still there
just shows you how great it could’ve been if everyone was healthy.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
This is why our 3rd round pick should have been a linebacker
Jerry was foolish not addressing a key weakness.
Best to Goff, Best to Mitchell, but
boo to Reese. Horrible season for him so far. No, he didn’t cause the injuries, (neither did the turf, Jets not having the same problems. Our trainers SUCK) but JR’s preparedness has been abysmal and he should be called on it. We did nothing in free agency outside of Baas. Nothing. Four rookie LBs? Nice, for a team that’s looking towards the future and not the present (which I believe is the strategy and I believed will be proved out by a not fan friendly end of season record), but not nice for a team with its eyes on a Championship. Sorry, Mara, Tisch and Reese have hoodwinked all the PSL buyers into believing the higher sticker price would translate into a better product. Wrong. They need to make up what they see as lost income, ergo: go cheap on the product, the fans will stick with us through it, they’re addicted, they always do, maybe next year, or the year after, we’ll begin to invest in our infrastructure again.
Give me a break, Zillag
You are going to blame knee injuries on the trainers? That is ridiculous. Seems to me those rookie LBs earned their roster spots. JR had what looks like a great draft — he can’t prevent injuries. He brought in a guy who looks like a good center to replace O’Hara. The only place the Giants got caught short was tight end, where they expected Boss to re-sign.
Deep breaths...
Ed, I’m glad you’re here to keep things in check. These freak occurence’s can’t be blamed on Reese, the trainers or anyone. Still think this team can make the playoffs, which if anything tells me Reese built an incredibly deep team.
Jones will have his growing pains, but the guy is a football player. We forget we we’re all worried about Goff manning the position a few years back, now we’re acting like we lost Ray Lewis.
Perry Fewell- coach ’em up
Still like our chances.
Trainers aren't to blame for knee injuries
but Jerry still takes the hit. The only reason we aren’t in worse trouble is that UDFAs saw how weak we are at LB and signed with us. Paysinger said as much, as did Herzlich. There is nothing intelligent about what JR did at LB, nothing. If we do OK there it will be because late draft picks turn out to be better than advertised or a washed up veteran is picked from obscurity and proves he still has gas in the tank. Not a way to go into a season.
Obviously not optimal situation, but the front office doesn’t just sign random UDFAs that come to them. They put in the work to scout these guys as much as they do draft picks. I underrstand they can choose to sign where they think they have the best shot to make the team, but don’t you think the Giants scouting department showing an interest in them play sinto that decision? Saying these guys landed in the Giants lap is silly. JR isn’t perfect, but let’s not crucify him.
Of course Reese can't prevent injuries
But the Giants have an inordinate amount it seems year in year out, and, yes, I do question the training and physical therapy of these players. I still stand by the Giants seeing this as a rebuilding year. That’s what my gut and eyes tell me. It’s only an opinion, of course. And i do hope I am wrong.
Leadership
All good defenses rely on the middle LB to be the QB. He calls audibles, sets the tone. Asking a rookie to do this is a big step. If Mitchell is healthy enough, he will see plenty of time. Is Kiwi a leader? Can he be a mentor to the rookies, or is he still learning the position? We are going to need a truck load of sacks this season to take the pressure off the LB’s
Ed, you said yourself that you would be watching how Foster plays this season since
he was available in the third round and the Giants chose Jernigan instead.
In fact, let's see how Foster is doing these days
http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/post/_/id/43347/morris-praises-play-of-foster-briscoe
and
Wouldn’t you like someone like that right now?
There is a lot of us who thought Foster should have been chosen instead of JJ
But the Giants didn’t choose him so no need in looking back. Obviously JR was getting ready for the loss of one of our WR’s so he decided to pick a guy who was supposed to be a special teams ace and could replace either SS or Ham next season.
by Late for Dinner on Sep 7, 2011 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions
yes
and we have one, Greg Jones
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
Enter Briggs?
Even if he is doing the crybaby thing in Chicago, Briggs for a #2 is not a bad move to Big Blue! He does not have the question marks on ability or conditioning? A 1 year contract is not going to break the bank since he has the guaranteed money coming from Chicago and he has experience.
Briggs wants a new deal not a one year contract
Briggs plays outside we need an inside LB, he would be an upgrade for sure but it’s not going to happen
by Late for Dinner on Sep 7, 2011 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions
that would be a terrible move
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