New York Giants Notes: Six Days Away Edition
by Mike Farley on Sep 5, 2011 9:01 AM EDT
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Good morning fellow Giants fans and I hope you're having an outstanding holiday weekend. I have, and after spending some time with my family this morning, I'm going to spend the rest of Labor Day playing nine holes and then doing my fantasy draft. And while the true meaning of Labor Day is one that relates to observing the contributions of workers to society, it also means that the start of the NFL regular season is only six days away. Actually it's only three days away, but the first football Sunday is always the one that feels awesome, and I'm looking forward to sharing this one with you guys. There isn't a lot of news floating around this holiday weekend after the 53-man roster was announced, but here are a few.....
New York Giants sign RB Andre Brown to practice squad hours after cutting him for 2nd time in career
After a nomadic journey around the NFL, Andre Brown returned to the Giants earlier this summer. On Sunday, he returned again. The 24-year-old running back was signed to the Giants' practice squad, just 18 hours after he was cut by the team for the second time in his career. He will rejoin the team Monday along with six other players who were cut on Saturday as part of the eight-man squad.
Mark Herzlich beats the odds, makes Giants' roster - NFL - Yahoo! Sports
Here is a story anyone can get behind. Mark Herzlich(notes) has made it through final cuts with the New York Giants. The cancer survivor, who was an undrafted free agent, beat the odds although it wasn’t a huge surprise. Reports were he performed well in training camp and preseason. It is a little surprising the Giants have four rookie linebackers on the 53-man roster.
Here is another nice piece about Herzlich, courtesy of one of our affiliates, BC Interruption.
Giants rookie 'backer Greg Jones has nose for football, vows he'll take next turnover to the house
Jones can't help thinking big, because he's used to letting his mind race. But the excitable rookie knows he'll need to rein in his emotions if he wants to help the Giants on the field this season. The sixth-round pick out of Michigan State secured a roster spot thanks to a high motor and penchant for always being near the football.
Well, you all know I love this dude, and I can't wait to see what he will do in a Giants' uniform.
Patriots face real rush job - BostonHerald.com
The New York Giants, Baltimore Ravens and New York Jets [team stats] all have something in common. They’ve been able to make Tom Brady [stats]’s life in the pocket miserable enough to make him look mortal. Actually, much worse than that. You can also add the Cleveland Browns into the mix. With former Patriots [team stats] coaches Eric Mangini and Rob Ryan at the helm, they also concocted a formula to make Brady look bad last season.
Finally, I'll leave you with ESPN.com's Dan Graziano's take on the Giants' final cuts. I have to tell you guys, I'm thrilled that Da'Rel Scott made the team, and I'm taking him tonight in the last round of my fantasy draft, because I just have a feeling this kid is going to do amazing things for Big Blue -- especially with Jacobs and Bradshaw being injury- and/or fumble-prone.
You guys have an excellent rest of the holiday weekend, and thanks as always for reading.
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I'm so excited for the young LBers!
…maybe the ‘draft a LBer’ talk will take off next offseason.
"The nerve of certain youngins running their mouth.
Until [the Eagles] win something major, I don't want to hear it."
-the Facebook mayor of East Rutherford
by pataroons on Sep 5, 2011 9:06 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Take next season off
Or take off next season?
"That's mostly fans who say that kind of stuff and they really don't understand the process. We have good players on the team. We're not looking to go out and make every sexy splash that can be made. We make solid football decisions. That's been happening for a long time," Reese said
Take next season off
Lol after hitting post I thought to myself, ‘that pretty much makes zero sense’.
"The nerve of certain youngins running their mouth.
Until [the Eagles] win something major, I don't want to hear it."
-the Facebook mayor of East Rutherford
by pataroons on Sep 5, 2011 1:02 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
wtf
I never think that there's something I can't do, whether it's beating my opponent one on one or practicing another hour because something about my game is just not right. - Magic
Tight end? Another corner?
Can we get a tight end please? A back up cb? Hey Jerry, wake up? Maybe he is going after his idol, President Obama. Going on vacation, doing nothing while everything goes down the toilet. All he has done is let players walk.
except for all the players we signed and re-signed
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
You mean half?
Except for half of the players he resigned.
no, all of the players we resigned
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
You wouldn't happen to be off the ESPN blog.....
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
Giant LB'z SUCK!!? Mark Herzlich, Greg Jones,Spencer Paysinger...Maybe not..
lol
I never think that there's something I can't do, whether it's beating my opponent one on one or practicing another hour because something about my game is just not right. - Magic
Oh yes, What a couple of shiftless negroes they are!
What time capsule did you step out of, bozo? You sure you’re not looking for the Cowboys’ blog?
Blue is the color of melancholy and honesty
Green is the color of inexperience, envy and nausea.
Let me explain this for you
Many players are visiting teams, getting physicals and doing workouts before they sign. You have to do your due diligence to find out why another team cut or waived this player in the first place.
Team Ghost: Manningham, Sintim, Beckum, Barden, JPP, Anvil, Ross
politics breh
I never think that there's something I can't do, whether it's beating my opponent one on one or practicing another hour because something about my game is just not right. - Magic
Hawaiian ?
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
Giant LB'z SUCK!!? Mark Herzlich, Greg Jones,Spencer Paysinger...Maybe not..
I just bouth 5 cases of bottled water, 10 gallons of milk and all the big boxes of all sizes of batteries
I am well prepared for the impending doom on Sunday.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
thought it would be 10 cases of beer and
a generator for you TV.
You’re on Long Island? What is this storm Lee supposed to be that bad. Please no, not a good week for me. I’m supposed to be MOVING Friday, going to the US Open Saturday, and hoping for no delay of that so I don’t have to scrap it Sunday for football, upsetting my wife…..
by BigBlueDeadHead on Sep 5, 2011 9:48 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
If you're talking about the expected disaster the Giants will be in DC....
I’m preparing as well. I bought all new Jets gear so I can join our big brother on their trip to the promised land.
Let's agree to disagree - right after you admit that you're completely wrong.
If no one is perfect does that mean I do not exist?
My Jets jersey
is behind glass in my TV room, with a little hammer hanging next to it like a fire extinguisher.
It says “In case of reactionary jackassery, break glass”
your mom goes to college
by Oppenheimer919 on Sep 5, 2011 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
nice one! lol
Team Monster:
JPP
"Da Real" Scott
Greg JONES
Herzlich
Paysinger
Jacquin Williams
and SASH
I dont know Mike
Da’Rel might be a little premature..
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
Giant LB'z SUCK!!? Mark Herzlich, Greg Jones,Spencer Paysinger...Maybe not..
DaRel is for real.
He will be fine, the kid can play. Cannot let that talent go. He will break some long plays this year for sure.
by oldschoolblue64 on Sep 5, 2011 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions
DS is going to do fine.
Have some faith.
Factology! Belief is ignorance.
by LoNJDTechnology on Sep 5, 2011 10:05 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Obama
Came to my city (Paterson,Nj) to check the flooding…Giants play on sunday(got my tix) now if only I cld hit the lottery….11-5 here we come
true Giants fans have a Love hate relationship with the team
by Mr.Williams on Sep 5, 2011 10:14 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
oh almost forgot
Had a wierd dream…Boley lost his job to Paysinger..& Ross stayed healthy all year while DS in very limited action had 6 td runs of over 65 yds !
true Giants fans have a Love hate relationship with the team
by Mr.Williams on Sep 5, 2011 10:17 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Time for a vacation
when your dreams become this detailed about the G-Men!
When its 3rd and long, throw the ball past the marker.
by Fester McDougal on Sep 5, 2011 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions
+1
U got a point there…but I normally dream of half nakid women fighting over me…
true Giants fans have a Love hate relationship with the team
by Mr.Williams on Sep 5, 2011 10:39 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Why only 1/2
"That's mostly fans who say that kind of stuff and they really don't understand the process. We have good players on the team. We're not looking to go out and make every sexy splash that can be made. We make solid football decisions. That's been happening for a long time," Reese said
He wakes up too soon and comes back to reality...
before they are fully undressed lol
by bdasilva7785 on Sep 5, 2011 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions
Weird Dream
nothing about Paterson’s own V Cruz?
by Cruz Control on Sep 5, 2011 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions
Da Rel Scot is for real
People don’t realize that he only played in limited spots to do what he did in preseason. I hope he gets a chance to play . I think he will eventually replace Jacobs.
"Hello...you play to win the game."
Replace Jacobs?
I don’t see that at all.
Team Ghost: Manningham, Sintim, Beckum, Barden, JPP, Anvil, Ross
give him time
not there yet. i thought DJ Ware was making jumps in his development behind Jacobs and Bradshaw, but they didnt seem to think so.
TE
I keep waiting to read that the Giants signed Donald Lee ? or someone that can catch Travis is a bust so far and should not be counted on. Lets go Jerry make a move.
I like Lee too
We definitely need TE help. They shouldn’t roll the dice on that. This offense is going to be inconsistent without a pass-catching TE.
"Hello...you play to win the game."
Maybe they are working guys out and we just don't know it.
I will be at the season opener NYG @ WAS with a few friends. If you are going and feel like looking up a fellow BBVer and having some fun, let me know.
Sunday, Sept. 11 2011 NYG 23 WAS 13
Would have kept Brown
I understand the choice of Ware but he has never shown up for real. I would have kept Brown.
Would like to have kept Clayton but cannot see who to cut so I guess that was the boat they were in.
Overall, I am happy with the roster. I am happy that they can cut former picks who were not making it instead of keeping them because they did not want to let go. A good change.
Still concerned about many things this season but we are on a good path going forward, lots of good young players.
Will be interesting when Barden and Osi show up. Prince will be an easy one to cut for…let’s see who goes if we get a good TE.
All the Giants should play like Mark Bavaro.
Tom Quinn Must Go!
It is equally worthless when people are always optimistic or always pessimistic. Either way I take their opinion with a pound of salt because I know they only have one setting. I post my own thoughts, not what either side wants to read.
by UnknownJintsFan on Sep 5, 2011 10:31 AM EDT reply actions
did I read wrong
“Prince will be an easy one to cut for” this has to be an error !
true Giants fans have a Love hate relationship with the team
by Mr.Williams on Sep 5, 2011 10:41 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
He means
someone will have to be cut when Prince is ready to come off the PUP. I’d think Martin or Coe would be the one to go.
he's not even on the PUP
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
Prince isn't?
He’s considered active roster? I guess they’re anticipating he’s ready before week 6 then, huh? Is Koets still on PUP?
he cld not be PUP
He practiced 1x so he’s active roster…
true Giants fans have a Love hate relationship with the team
by Mr.Williams on Sep 5, 2011 10:50 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Koets and Barden are PUP'd
Prince is on the active roster, and should be healthy by week 3 (maybe week 2)
I stand corrected
All the Giants should play like Mark Bavaro.
Tom Quinn Must Go!
It is equally worthless when people are always optimistic or always pessimistic. Either way I take their opinion with a pound of salt because I know they only have one setting. I post my own thoughts, not what either side wants to read.
by UnknownJintsFan on Sep 5, 2011 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Correct
No speaka da good English, rushed it too much.
All the Giants should play like Mark Bavaro.
Tom Quinn Must Go!
It is equally worthless when people are always optimistic or always pessimistic. Either way I take their opinion with a pound of salt because I know they only have one setting. I post my own thoughts, not what either side wants to read.
by UnknownJintsFan on Sep 5, 2011 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Clayton
He only caught on pass the preseason and one pass last season I think. I would have kept Brown over though.
"Hello...you play to win the game."
Clayton's blocking is so good
on STs, etc.
He is very valuable, it was a numbers decision.,
All the Giants should play like Mark Bavaro.
Tom Quinn Must Go!
It is equally worthless when people are always optimistic or always pessimistic. Either way I take their opinion with a pound of salt because I know they only have one setting. I post my own thoughts, not what either side wants to read.
by UnknownJintsFan on Sep 5, 2011 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions
More than Clayton
I was surprised they let Derek Hagan get away. Last year when they brought Hagan, Clayton and Thomas in because of injuries, he’s the only one that really produced, with the exception of Thomas blocked punt against the Skins.
hagan would have cost more than we allotted
Some people think football is a matter of life and death. I don't like that attitude. I can assure them it is much more serious than that.
by njsoldier1978 on Sep 5, 2011 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions
So much for Reese being stubborn and having a big ego
Team Ghost: Manningham, Sintim, Beckum, Barden, JPP, Anvil, Ross
Don't you know
Now he’s impatient and slow to act ;)
"That's mostly fans who say that kind of stuff and they really don't understand the process. We have good players on the team. We're not looking to go out and make every sexy splash that can be made. We make solid football decisions. That's been happening for a long time," Reese said
Not getting on the Da'Rel Scott bandwagon yet
Yes he did have two amazing plays but he was very lucky.
Luck is part of sports we all know that but the Da’Rell still has to show us that his big play ability is not only due to luck.
IMO he won’t get much on the field this year. He is the RB4 and without those 2 plays he would be on the PS right now and Andre Brown would be on the roster.
New York Giants French blog (with croissants and wine)
New York Giants French Blog?!
Quelle Surprise
Blue is the color of melancholy and honesty
Green is the color of inexperience, envy and nausea.
A small blog for a small community of French fans
So are you French or an American who speaks French?
New York Giants French blog (with croissants and wine)
Vous n'etes pas tout seul
On est au moins deux. Et l’avantage ici est que nous avons un access aux matchs qui est meilleur que ce qu’ils ont aux US. Eux, ils ne peuvent pas avoir Game Pass.
Super content que Mr Perrilloux est arrive (bien qu’il soit le dernier) au PS. Allez Big Bleu!!
I am a fan of Kevin Gilbride and I don't care what you say
by Spider Lockhart on Sep 5, 2011 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions
C'est la vie, C'est la guerre
Je ne suis pas une pomme de terre.
All the Giants should play like Mark Bavaro.
Tom Quinn Must Go!
It is equally worthless when people are always optimistic or always pessimistic. Either way I take their opinion with a pound of salt because I know they only have one setting. I post my own thoughts, not what either side wants to read.
by UnknownJintsFan on Sep 5, 2011 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm sorry
we only speak american here
(kidding if the sarcasm font didn’t make it obvious)
Self-praise is for losers. Be a winner. Stand for something. Always have class, and be humble.
-John Madden
Well...
I’ll translate but it will not be so funny in English.
That is life, that is war
I am not a potato.
Really, it is only funny in French. Or maybe not there either.
All the Giants should play like Mark Bavaro.
Tom Quinn Must Go!
It is equally worthless when people are always optimistic or always pessimistic. Either way I take their opinion with a pound of salt because I know they only have one setting. I post my own thoughts, not what either side wants to read.
by UnknownJintsFan on Sep 5, 2011 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Luck not!
Da’Rel Scot has talent. It’s more like his ability. He’ll the future starting RB for the Giants.
"Hello...you play to win the game."
Too soon to tell IMO
I can only wish him success in his career but he has yet to prove himself.
Maybe he’ll be the next Ahmad Bradshaw of the team or maybe not.
We all got excited the past 2 years about Ramses Barden. Saying that he’ll be a huge weapon in the redzone, etc… what has he done so far? Nothing. Unfortunately for him he got injured but I remember during his first season that he was healthy and couldn’t even contribute on ST…
I just too vulnerable and don’t want to end up disappointed again with Scott ^^
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Barden should be cut
I was never a big fan when I saw him play. What has he done or shown on the field? I hope he knows this is his last chance to get on the field and prove himself.
"Hello...you play to win the game."
He seems to be a great guy
But so was Sinorice Moss…
I don’t see him getting on the field with Nicks, Manningham, Hixon and Thomas looking good so far.
His only chance may be to gain some weight, learn how to block and play TE ^^
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one reason
Eli seems to trust him. Threw him the ball pretty much any time he got into a game, and he did a pretty good job when thrown to (I can remember one drop). He was on pace for a hundred yard game in his first actual start when he got hurt.
Barden
didn’t you hear (Troy O I think)……Barden’s good for 8 TD’s this year
by Cruz Control on Sep 5, 2011 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Who could have foreseen
A raw rookie not learning ST’s all that well from Tom Quinn… ?
>_>
Greg Jones, Jacquian Williams and Mark Herzlich seem to have learn something
But I give all the credit to former LB/STer and current assistant ST coach (hopefully future ST coach) Larry Izzo ^^
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that wagon moves fast so
getting on now is a little easier.
I was a little bummed it wasn’t Andre but I believe if this guy is put in when we get ahead he can get some great experience.
If he can learn how to pass protect then he’ll get in. …but I do worry TC going to red shirt him.
Please get Phil Simms in the Hall of Fame
I think that's what going to happen eventually
He made the team, but won’t dress up for game very often unless he can contribute on ST.
I don’t know if he can play PR or even KR (but that spot is locked by Thomas). But he’ll need to contribute on ST if he wants to get on the field.
New York Giants French blog (with croissants and wine)
But that's just it
Da’Rel has shown he belongs on ST, the fake punt, and the threat he presents there should open up the return game.
With his speed, KR are already being talked about. Makes it much easier to find him touches later in the game
"That's mostly fans who say that kind of stuff and they really don't understand the process. We have good players on the team. We're not looking to go out and make every sexy splash that can be made. We make solid football decisions. That's been happening for a long time," Reese said
First time in some time
I’m excited about the LB crew. I don’t see anyone that is a Pro-Bowler but I do see some speed and aggressiveness that I haven’t seen in some time.
Please get Phil Simms in the Hall of Fame
Good to see the LB bandwagon has grown
I would like to take this time out to salute the HANDFUL who actually believed in the backers here and the young ones we drafted. It was sad to see so many chalk up the players we had as if they couldnt get the job done.
What else is funny is people basically were jumping out the window for our backups at the LB spot because as far as im concerned the starters were obvious as far as Boley and Goff go, the only question mark was SAM and i had faith in Sintim and others to fill that spot as everyone knows and is probably sick of by now.
Just glad to see the “we dont have linebackers” nonsense put to rest.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
I've been saying all along
that I expected the LB’s of 2011 to be like the WR’s of 2009.
The only spot that concerns me is SAM
Kiwi is a great player but I would rather see him playing DE than OLB. Hopefully Herzlich can step up and force the coaching staff to put Kiwi back on the line.
Otherwise I am very excited about this group. Goff has improved in coverage, Boley looks good and the backups are young and hungry.
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the bandwagon
I have maintained that our LBZ were not as bad as some wld sugest,now with the youth movement,I see brighter days ahead…I’m overly critical of the position , but I like the potential I see!
true Giants fans have a Love hate relationship with the team
by Mr.Williams on Sep 5, 2011 11:10 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Really?
Look, I’m excited about the young guys and all, but let’s plant our feet back on the ground here. The fact that you have 4 low round or UDFA rookies make the team at one position is a neat talking point, but it clearly shows that position was indeed a problem. If there had really been strength or stability there you wouldn’t see the team keeping 4 such players. I hope at least some of these guys turn into stars. Who can’t root for Herzlich. Fact of reality is that none of these guys have yet to take a single regular season snap and showed most of their potential playing other second or third teamers. Acting like it is locked in that we have future pro bowl crew here is kind of silly. Some of you guys talked about Dillard and Tracy the same way you re talking about these new guys. What happened with those two again?
The starters themselves aren’t really all that special either. We still have a DE playing out of position at SAM, a one dimensional MLB who needs to be removed from the field in many situations, and a WILL who on other teams might be just a nickel sub player.
Whatcha gonna do with JPP and Osi then?
Put them on the bench? Having Kiwi at SAM gets the most best players on the field at once.
Osi won't play much this year after his surgery IMO
Kiwi and JPP can rotate. We have been doing this for a couple of seasons.
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What was the purpose of getting the surgery then?
by bdasilva7785 on Sep 5, 2011 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions
Getting back at the front office
He never complained about his hip or his knee or his wallet until July. Now that he realized he won’t get what he wants from the Giants he is looking for ways to mess with them.
The guy said he’ll be committed to the Giants… this year! Meaning that, as soon as we are done with this season he’ll start complaining again about the contract he willingly signed.
We should have traded him for a 2nd round choice when we had the chance.
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LOL
Why does everyone think that everything he does is filled with bad intentions. If he wants to complain at the end of the year then he needs ammo and will be on the field playing his tail off.
by bdasilva7785 on Sep 5, 2011 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions
Exactly
The purpose of the surgery is to make sure he can play at a high level when it counts (the end of the year), and participate fully in practice.
If he hadn’t had the surgery, he wouldn’t have been able to practice, and probably would’ve had to have it at the end of the year, and land on IR.
Don't you think they'd IR him if they didn't expect him back?
"That's mostly fans who say that kind of stuff and they really don't understand the process. We have good players on the team. We're not looking to go out and make every sexy splash that can be made. We make solid football decisions. That's been happening for a long time," Reese said
Probably
But here’s another question: how many guys have returned from recent surgery completely healthy? Hixon looks to be 200% but he is 15 months away from his surgery and KP admitted that he didn’t feel 100% last year due to his injury.
I wouldn’t be surprised if Osi plays the rest of the season limited or gets injured after a couple of games.
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The surgery's are different...
Osi had a Knee scope KP had Microfracture surgery Hixon had acl surgery. Many different levels of injury and surgeries
by bdasilva7785 on Sep 5, 2011 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions
They are different, but yet the same :)
It’s basically cutting some part of you open and tweak the machinery inside.
You never know how a guy is going to recover from that.
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Cleaning up the meniscus is relatively minor
I was able to walk the next day. No tendons involved. Almost like trimming finger nails.
I am a fan of Kevin Gilbride and I don't care what you say
by Spider Lockhart on Sep 5, 2011 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions
they are very different
Scoping of a knee is very minor and is estimated to have tops a 4-6 week of full recovery. Microfracture and ACL surgeries are all a lot more traumatic and take minumum 10 months to recover from it.
by bdasilva7785 on Sep 5, 2011 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions
or maybe he's getting the surgery now so he can start his season 100% as well as get needed practice time
instead of playing the season at 75% and not being able to practice all year due to the swelling that made him get the surgery.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
A player getting surgery because he in injured?!
I’ve never heard of that. (dont know how to do sarcasm font, but I think its pretty obvious)
Surgery he could have done earlier if he'd wanted too
The guy probably worked out during the offseason so he would have known if something was bugging him.
He came to the training camp, basically did nothing and decided to get the surgery… but that may be just me being paranoid.
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he didn't have football practice in the offseason
no one did. Sure, the surgery could’ve been discovered as a need earlier if she didn’t hold out with the contract/trade crap. But it didn’t.
That he’s doing it and will be 100% and able to practice, we’ll have a better Osi. If he misses the Redskins game, who cares. I’d rather see JPP make Silverback Williams a ragdoll anyway.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
I'm sure he worked out and if he did he would have had some swelling there...
but who knows his thought process maybe he didn’t have the surgery earlier cause of the lockout and didnt think we would be starting a season on time anyway.
by bdasilva7785 on Sep 5, 2011 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions
working out is not the same as football practice
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
If Osi misses the entire season i couldn't care less
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Overrated in his own mind and a huge pain in the ass
When Osi is happy, he is great. But the guy is never going to be happy until he gets his top 5 DE contract. He doesn’t deserve that contract.
Someone is probably going to tell me that Strahan was also a pain in the ass when he was asking for a new contract but Osi ain’t Strahan. Strahan was an exceptionnal player that didn’t need someone else to take double teams for him to make plays.
Osi is basically harmless against a top LT. In my mind a top DE gets past a top LT.
Osi is a good speed rusher but he is not elite. The raise he is asking for is just ridiculous and he won’t rest until he gets what he wants: a big pay raise or a new team.
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Ok... Now how does him not being on the field make us a better team?
by bdasilva7785 on Sep 5, 2011 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Even when he is on the field against top competition he doesn't make us better
I wouldn’t mind keeping him if he’d just shut up and play until the end of the contract he signed.
Next time he’ll think twice (or thrice :) ) before putting his signature on the dotted line.
Tuck is far more underpaid than Osi (I am talking about the ratio production/salary) and never complained. The guy is happy to see that Charles Johnson is getting a huge contract because he knows that when his time comes, he’ll get a huge payday. And that would be well deserved.
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Ok so he makes us a worse team is what your saying.
I am talking contract aside right now whether he is yapping his mouth about being paid or not is irrelevant to what he does on the field this upcoming season.
by bdasilva7785 on Sep 5, 2011 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Distraction never is a good thing for a team
And it’s far from being irrelevant
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Strahan was twice the "distraction" Osi ever will be
doesn’t make people stop calling him a “leader”
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
Strahan was twice the player Osi will ever be :)
On a d-line there is always a player that benefits from the real star. That’s normal, just like there is always a WR taking advantages of the attention drawn by the WR1.
Strahan was the star and Osi was taking advantage (not that there is anything wrong with that) of the attention Strahan got. The same thing is happening with Tuck right now.
My point is that Osi is asking for money of someone who is taking on double teams and still making plays. It’s not the case. That’s the case of the other guy on the line who is wearing #91 and is leading through example.
If Osi was asking for a reasonnalble raise, I wouldn’t have any problem with that. But that’s not what he is asking and he is asking the wrong way. Cofield spent much of the offseason talking about his willingness to get paid but he never did it the way Osi did.
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We're obvously not changing your opinion on this...
but I still say we are a better team with Osi on the field rather them him off of it. Don’t forget depth is a big winner in the NFL. Either you got it or you don’t and I pray we dont need it at DE but I rather have Osi on the field and ready to play then have him out for the year and then we lose a guy like Tuck or JPP.
Nope you won't. I got fooled by Osi last year, won't get fooled again
And yes we need depth at DE, there is no question about it. But right now we can’t have this until he gets back on the field.
He is going to play for us this year and I hope that he at least plays 200% to get the new contract he wants (I have given up on the idea of Osi playing for his team).
I firmly believe that JPP is the future and that the Giants should let Osi go somewhere he could get the contract he wants.
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Fact
2009: played like crap and was a distraction
2010: decided to shut up and played well
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2009 1st season back from major surgery
2010 2 years away from major surgery
Also, Osi bitched before last season too.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
I don't think he complained about contract in 09
He was pissed about sheridan walked out on practice in preseason, and got into it with the coaches and team on the sidelines on thanksgiving night vs the broncos when there was a big lack of effort from the team(including himself)
The fact is
when he gets his head in the game, he plays well. Right now I don’t have the impression he is only focused on the game.
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No the real fact is...
When he is put in a position to succeed by his D-coordinator he plays well the only years he wasn’t that good were 3 years. His rookie year which everyone knows is typically an adjustment period, The year he tore his meniscus vs the jets and didnt play all year, and the 09 season with sheridan when our defense stunk up the field all the way around.
he's been complaining every year
2009 it was cuz they tried to use him in a way that he should be used so it would hurt his contract bitching
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
More Osi talk...YAY!
I will be at the season opener NYG @ WAS with a few friends. If you are going and feel like looking up a fellow BBVer and having some fun, let me know.
Sunday, Sept. 11 2011 NYG 23 WAS 13
I like the Giants’ strategy of going with 2 QBs on the roster and stashing one on the PS. Covers them for 99% of likely situations and frees up another roster spot.
by hopeforthefuture3 on Sep 5, 2011 11:59 AM EDT reply actions
they usually do that anyway right
I never think that there's something I can't do, whether it's beating my opponent one on one or practicing another hour because something about my game is just not right. - Magic
Osi for Shiancoe
any takers??? we could throw in Beckum too
this is a terrible idea
Osi is worth about 5 Shiancoe
Die hard Giants fan since wide Right! I was 5...
I'm down wit JPP
Yea you know me
I thought the Giants might give Stephen Spach a look
but Spags signed him already.
Team Ghost: Manningham, Sintim, Beckum, Barden, JPP, Anvil, Ross
Hynoski
is pretty damn smart….maybe he can tell the receivers where they’re supposed to go
Of our lb's this year...
Boley was not drafted by us and the 3 udfa lb’s werent drafted but they are on their first team ever. So technically no only Goff and Kiwi were drafted by us… I may be missing someone just writing this straight off the top of my head.
Greg Jones, Jacquan Williams
by BigBlueDeadHead on Sep 5, 2011 3:04 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I blasted the article by Graziano
He doesn’t think we have depth, I went over ever position and said why our depth is really good.
Die hard Giants fan since wide Right! I was 5...
I'm down wit JPP
Yea you know me
I just watched the game again
I still think they should have kept Brown. Ware has done nothing much in his time here, time for a change.
All the Giants should play like Mark Bavaro.
Tom Quinn Must Go!
It is equally worthless when people are always optimistic or always pessimistic. Either way I take their opinion with a pound of salt because I know they only have one setting. I post my own thoughts, not what either side wants to read.
Boycotting BBN from now to Sunday
3rd and 4th running backs, Osi contracts, cutting Barden, rules for PUP, Obama’s vacation, half naked women oh puleeeeeeeze let the season start !
I am a fan of Kevin Gilbride and I don't care what you say
by Spider Lockhart on Sep 5, 2011 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions
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