NFL Roster Cuts: Giants Put Sage Rosenfels On IR, Reach 53-Man Limit
by Ed Valentine on Sep 3, 2011 7:03 PM EDT
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PrintOne of the more interesting late moves made by the New York Giants as they pared their roster down to the regular-season limit of 53 players was the placement of backup quarterback Sage Rosenfels on injured reserve due to illness and the subsequent back injury he suffered.
Here are the rest of the transactions:
Safety Brian Jackson (hip) was waived/injured.
The team terminated the contracts of six veterans: wide receiver Michael Clayton, tight end Daniel Coats, guard Ikechuku Ndukwe, center Chris White, defensive tackle Gabe Watson and kicker Rhys Lloyd.
Nineteen players were waived: Phillip Dillard, Adrian Tracy, Dodge, quarterback Ryan Perrilloux, running backs Andre Brown and Charles Scott, tight end Christian Hopkins, wide receiver Darius Reynaud, tackles Jamon Meredith and Jarriel King, center Jim Cordle, defensive ends Ayanaga Okpokowuruk, Craig Marshall, Alex Hall and Justin Trattou and Dwayne Hendricks and defensive backs Joe Burnett, David Sims and Jerrard Tarrant.
Here is the roster, as it stands right now
Offense (25)
Quarterbacks (2): Eli Manning, David Carr
Running Backs (4): Ahmad Bradshaw, Brandon Jacobs, D.J. Ware, Da'Rel Scott
Fullbacks (2): Bear Pascoe, Henry Hynoski (Pascoe also plays tight end)
Wide Receivers (6): Hakeem Nicks, Mario Manningham, Domenik Hixon, Devin Thomas, Victor Cruz, Jerrel Jernigan
Tight Ends (2): Travis Beckum, Jake Ballard
Offensive Linemen (9): David Diehl, Chris Snee, Kareem McKenzie, Will Beatty, David Bass, Stacy Andrews, Mitch Petrus, James Brewer, Kevin Boothe
Defense (25)
Defensive Linemen: (8): Justin Tuck, Osi Umenyiora, Chris Canty, Linval Joseph, Jason Pierre-Paul, Rocky Bernard, Dave Tollefson, Jimmy Kennedy
Linebackers (7): Mathias Kiwanuka, Jonathan Goff, Michael Boley, Jacquian Williams, Mark Herzlich, Greg Jones, Spencer Paysinger.
Cornerbacks (5): Corey Webster, Aaron Ross, Michael Coe, Brian Williams, Prince Amukamara
Safeties (5): Antrel Rolle, Deon Grant, Kenny Phillips, Tyler Sash, Derrick Martin
Specialists (3)
Kicker (1): Lawrence Tynes
Punter (1): Steve Weatherford
Long Snapper (1): Zak DeOssie
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Derrick Martin
i say he may get cut in the next day or so if they pick up a CB that was dropped today
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 3, 2011 7:08 PM EDT reply actions
joselio hanson por favor?
Team Intervention:
Greg Jones
Tyler Sash
Jason Pierre-Paul
Will Beatty
Justin Trattou
by BigBlueIntervention on Sep 3, 2011 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Depends
Will the Giants give him a contract, because it sounds like he will not be taking any minimum…
by Well-Rounded Cube on Sep 3, 2011 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Then screw him
If he doesn’t want to play for the Dream Team Giants, then he can go be somebody else’s overpriced pickup.
Team Ghost: Manningham, Sintim, Beckum, Barden, JPP, Anvil, Ross
thats who I was thinking
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 3, 2011 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Please take him and play him on the outside...
I’d like to see the result from the other perspective.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
That would never happen on the Giants
Team Ghost: Manningham, Sintim, Beckum, Barden, JPP, Anvil, Ross
Yeah unless you guys lost another CB... Then it's pretty much pick your poison.
BTW I’m in no way wishing any injury upon any player, I’m just stating the fact that your CB depth isn’t exactly at it’s best right now and that 1 more injury could really cause issues.
It’s essentially the situation the Eagles were in last season.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
had a TD fumble recovery in the game Thursday
heard he is a very good Special Teamer, they picked him up like 3 weeks ago, no one knew who he was
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 3, 2011 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Really
I didn’t think Brown would havebeen cut! Not too sure about Ware this year. Brown looked better, made more decisive moves and cuts. Looked to be a step quicker than Ware as well. I knew Dodge was a goner. Placement of the ball is much more important, see Feagles.
not at all surprised...
I said it before in the NE game thread. He bounced around the league last year after he was waived/injured from our G-men squad. He’ll be there if we want him.
In Reese We Trust
Not happy about the Brown-out!
Thought he played better than DJ this summer. Still haven’t seen a thing from Ware that merits him being on the team.
by DJ Farnaquelhe on Sep 4, 2011 12:04 AM EDT up reply actions
dang if all we can complain about is the 3rd RB then we had a pretty good roster cutdown day
I’ve been all kinds of pissed before on these days….this was relatively good!
Team Intervention:
Greg Jones
Tyler Sash
Jason Pierre-Paul
Will Beatty
Justin Trattou
by BigBlueIntervention on Sep 4, 2011 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions
good point
That is pretty good if our No. 3 RB is our worst cut. I also agree with the guys who said they prefer Brown over Ware. I thought Brown hit the hole hard and played well against NE.
by NortheastKingdom on Sep 4, 2011 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions
I am absolutrely loving our rookie and UDFA LBs...
apparently, our Giants front office is too!
In Reese We Trust
funny cause samuel has caught three balls from eli in his career
don’t think that’s enough to qualify as one of his two favorite receivers
and he dropped
one very important one
by GMen56-11 on Sep 3, 2011 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
Dropped?
I don’t think so.
I will be at the season opener NYG @ WAS with a few friends. If you are going and feel like looking up a fellow BBVer and having some fun, let me know.
Team TD
Sintim Ware
Herzlich Hixon
Jones Cruz
Sash Barden
Kennedy Dodge
Yeah he was out of bounds anyways
Self-praise is for losers. Be a winner. Stand for something. Always have class, and be humble.
-John Madden
We picked up an UDFA punter named Chas Henry who has been doing excellent. We don’t need a punter. Although, it would be quite funny if we did get Dodge. :P
"It's not going to make me try to hit you any harder, because I'm going to do that anyway." - Brian Dawkins
By all means, take Hanson. Just hope that they don’t play him as a CB1 or CB2, since all he can do is play the Nickel. Not to mention that Reese will just LOVE trying to sign a high money contract with him.
Lee should be a whole lot better than what you currently have, though. That’s a no-brainer pick up for you guys, and he should be a nice plug.
"It's not going to make me try to hit you any harder, because I'm going to do that anyway." - Brian Dawkins
If we were to get Hanson
That’s exactly what he would be as TT was going to be our nickel CB out there. However, the Giants won’t pay him a high money contract so this is really a non-starter.
by Well-Rounded Cube on Sep 3, 2011 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Are you bragging about having the chance to sign the players we cut before the season? I mean, they’re quality players, no doubt… but I don’t think you have much grounds to be cracking jokes at our expense there.
Formerly DeSean10
36-5-20-JJ -- Forever Bleeding Green
Hanson was worth a 3rd rounder to you all before he was cut
so yes, it would be funny if the Giants signed him as a FA.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
3rd?
Where’d you get that report? I’d have been more than pleased with a 7th. Hanson is a rock-solid nickel CB, probably the best in the game. But he got cut for a reason, he’s limited in that role, he carried a big contract, and he’s always a liability over the top. I think he’d be a good pick up for you, but not a “haha” type of steal.
Formerly DeSean10
36-5-20-JJ -- Forever Bleeding Green
Compare it to your picking up Smith
Seems pretty similar to me
"That's mostly fans who say that kind of stuff and they really don't understand the process. We have good players on the team. We're not looking to go out and make every sexy splash that can be made. We make solid football decisions. That's been happening for a long time," Reese said
all you Egg fans were complaining about it
3rd, 4th rounder.
Now that he’s cut, he’s a 7th rounder. LOL.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
Find a comment of me saying he was worth more than a 6th. Go for it — I wish you well. I don’t think you can say that every fan thinks the same, unless you’re wishing death upon Steve Smith. like “all you Giant fans”. (See how that doesn’t work?)
Formerly DeSean10
36-5-20-JJ -- Forever Bleeding Green
Find where I said you, specifically? Go for it.
and this is referring to most of you BGNers, so there it is. And yes, it’ll be funny if the Giants sign him…still. Since not only did you all say that he wasn’t getting cut, but also that he’s going for a 3rd or a mid round pick.
and that is all.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
Hanson was worth a 3rd rounder to yout
Found it. Again, assuming majority = entirety, always a good call.
Formerly DeSean10
36-5-20-JJ -- Forever Bleeding Green
Am I not a part of “you all”? If a police officer says “you all need to get out of here” does that mean you can stay? Just sayin’, assuming everybody in a group has the same beliefs doesn’t always work.
Formerly DeSean10
36-5-20-JJ -- Forever Bleeding Green
Dude, Rorschach44 is literally
taking what 2-3 people said and grouping BGN as a whole into it.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
Yep.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
Alright.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
Potato
Self-praise is for losers. Be a winner. Stand for something. Always have class, and be humble.
-John Madden
Green Beans.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
Like I said there were like 3 people that felt that way.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
C'mon!
He was an Eagle! The way you folks talk on BGN it sounds like you have 3 categories of players:
Walk on water players
HOF players
Great players
All of whom have been specifically drafted, picked, groomed, and placed on the team for this years inevitable title run. At least that is the arrogant-ass impression i get when i visit BGN
I will be at the season opener NYG @ WAS with a few friends. If you are going and feel like looking up a fellow BBVer and having some fun, let me know.
Team TD
Sintim Ware
Herzlich Hixon
Jones Cruz
Sash Barden
Kennedy Dodge
See my reply to Rorschach. Also, where I said in my comment that he’s the best nickle guy in the game. Is a nickle CB worth a 3rd? I don’t think so. I think 6th, and I’d have been happy with a 7th. Like I said, he’d be a good pick up for you guys. But since we cut him outright is he really worth bragging about?
Formerly DeSean10
36-5-20-JJ -- Forever Bleeding Green
No, not worth bragging about.
We’re not gonna get him anyway, IMO. But he is worthy of some banter by us know-it-alls.
I will be at the season opener NYG @ WAS with a few friends. If you are going and feel like looking up a fellow BBVer and having some fun, let me know.
Team TD
Sintim Ware
Herzlich Hixon
Jones Cruz
Sash Barden
Kennedy Dodge
LOL I was saying I'd worship Roseman if we got a 5th. I don't know where
this “ALL OF BGN SAID HE WAS WORTH A 3rd” crap came from.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
Haha, exactly man.
Hanson can’t stop anybody past 15 yards.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
Who said that?
There were a few guys who were lunatics who claimed we could get a 3rd for him.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
I searched "Hanson 3rd" on BBV and BGN
And I think he’s basing it off of this little convo:
Asante
is not going anywhere. I think Hanson is pretty decent, but one of those 3 CB’s can handle his job just as well, if not better. Dish Hanson for a 3rd rounder and be done with it.
by trainwreq
A 3rd rounder for Hanson? Honestly, I hope for a 6th and would take a 7th rounder if it was offered. Teams know that it is likely we won’t keep 6 corners on the 53 man, and they also know we are not putting Lindley or Marsh on the practice squad. So unless either of our young corners gets IR’d for a hangnail, I think Hanson will be the odd man out. Our only hope of getting anything at all is the fact that Hanson would likely not clear waivers.
I will admit that it is not outside the realm of possibility that Lindley is the one let go, but I think that is highly unlikely.
by captain nodar
i know
wishful thinking…by trainwreq
That’s all I could find. So yeah, somebody said it, but he was quickly countered by a rational individual and admitted he was being too optimistic. I saw lots of 5th-7th talk, as well as a lot of (unfair) “let’s just cut the bum”.
Formerly DeSean10
36-5-20-JJ -- Forever Bleeding Green
Yeah man, it as a few people.
I also remember some guy who’s never been seen on BGN before or after being pretty adamant that that Hanson was worth a 3rd because I remember a ton of us blasted him.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
It's not Charles Scott bro.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
We're signing Dodge so he can retire and Eagles.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
Dillard and Tracy were surprises
one at least should be on the PS. Also Martin was a surprised to make tho I’d say he’s the 53rd man or something like that.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
easy, isn't it?
guy doesn’t play, so take a pot shot right? Haven’t seen anything that he isn’t good of course. Also haven’t seen anything that he isn’t good…but hey, lets take the easy way out, its fun!
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
If he was any good, he wouldn't have been cut
There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ
The 2011 Mets- Rock bottom: We haven't reached it yet
the others that were taken over him weren't exactly all pros
so again, easy way out.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
You really think the Giants would've cut a 4th rounder after one year
if they had seen any sort of ability from him?
There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ
The 2011 Mets- Rock bottom: We haven't reached it yet
considering what they've done with their players
not sure they’re to be 100% trusted
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
Wait...are you actually criticizing Reese's decisions?
There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ
The 2011 Mets- Rock bottom: We haven't reached it yet
are you acting like its the first time?
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
You are making my head spin.
I will be at the season opener NYG @ WAS with a few friends. If you are going and feel like looking up a fellow BBVer and having some fun, let me know.
Team TD
Sintim Ware
Herzlich Hixon
Jones Cruz
Sash Barden
Kennedy Dodge
Dilllard may be good
but it seems they liked the other 4 rooks better. Best of luck to the guy, I actually hope he makes it to the practice squad, but the other kids forced their hand.
It’s called seizing the opportunity.
You down wit JPP?
Its perfectly reasonable
That they would go forward with other linebackers that they would see MORE ability from. In that case, I can understand them going with the rookies over Dillard.
by Well-Rounded Cube on Sep 3, 2011 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions
i watched all of the preseason minutes
he had his chance then
he didn't deserve to make the team
but does he suck? Lets see where he latches on elsewhere. If he turns out like Bryan Kehl, the Giants screwed up…again.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
and you're assuming nothing again, right?
LBz suck…oh.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
He means using the draft pick to get him.
by Well-Rounded Cube on Sep 3, 2011 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions
so he plays the first snap of the game and he's a starter?
NBC couldn’t get 1/3 of the starters correct the Jets game, so what’s to be trusted.
All I know is Kehl was starting for them almost as soon as he got there. Or at least playing most of the snaps.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
Got my info from nfl.com
28 tackles, 7 assists for the season. He wasn’t starter and probably didn’t get most of the snaps. If he did, he sucked. Just learn to admit when you are wrong. He was a back up!
I'd admit it if I knew it was true
Kehl was starting for the Rams last year, end of story.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
Why don't back that up with some facts?
Oh..wait you can’t.
all I found is that Kehl had greater then 50% of the snaps at his LB spot
for the Rams last year
(***sits back, laughs and moves on….)
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
Funny how he only started 1 game
Sounds like a heavily used back up who was not particularly productive.
rorschach aka freebradshaw
is never wrong
http://www.bigblueview.com/2009/5/16/877157/whos-better-domenik-hixon-or#
JoeD AKA The Voice Of Reason
ya like that one don't ya Joe?
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
# of snaps
sorry, it was more then anyone else at the position.
If you want to look at the yahoo numbers of GS and Gs, thats on you.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
Games started is games started
28 tackes, 7 assists
No sacks, interceptions, forced fumbles, or passes defensed. How did we let him get away? I don’t miss him, do you?
I don't miss him at all either
and his stats are his stats, but his snaps are also his snaps.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
That's a long back and forth on an inconsequential player
"That's mostly fans who say that kind of stuff and they really don't understand the process. We have good players on the team. We're not looking to go out and make every sexy splash that can be made. We make solid football decisions. That's been happening for a long time," Reese said
Ok, I guess we are playing hindsight.
Which LB’s should have the Giants kept over Kehl. Wait, let me guess, since now you have the whole roster to choose from (since it’s hindsight), you will come up with someone else.
I will be at the season opener NYG @ WAS with a few friends. If you are going and feel like looking up a fellow BBVer and having some fun, let me know.
Team TD
Sintim Ware
Herzlich Hixon
Jones Cruz
Sash Barden
Kennedy Dodge
last year Duke Callhoune
was 53rd man cause of the big play he made in preseason game 4… Martin is no different
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 3, 2011 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Iggles fans laugh at Dan G comments over on espn that we need to pick up there castaways. God I hate the Iggles fans
Got only one thing to say to that
laugh while you can monkey boy
"That's mostly fans who say that kind of stuff and they really don't understand the process. We have good players on the team. We're not looking to go out and make every sexy splash that can be made. We make solid football decisions. That's been happening for a long time," Reese said
I ripped one of them pretty well.
The one that could not properly use a punctuation mark was pretty entertaining.
"Kick ass. pop champagne. And get some ho's"-Hideki Matsui
by Livestrong77nyy on Sep 3, 2011 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Outside of the Eagles' starters they bought, they've got 0 depth...
I say if the Eagles lost a couple of their starters, they’re a shadow of who they (and apparently the public) THINK they are. They’ve got to hope for a whole lot of luck in the injury front.
In Reese We Trust
my main point was...
why should we want any of their castoffs? they stink at drafting and they stink at scouting.
In Reese We Trust
I don't agree with this.
At LB and OL yes, if we lost a few guys we’d have issues. Outside of that Safety would be a spot I’d worry about if a starter went down.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
So you have no depth at LB, OL, S
but you don’t agree? OK.
Team Ghost: Manningham, Sintim, Beckum, Barden, JPP, Anvil, Ross
No. As a whole I disagree.
I’m not saying we have no depth in those positions, I’m just saying that’s where our depth is questionable.
OL we have Dunlap as our b/u OT, Vandervelde as the b/u OG, Jamaal Jackson as our backup G/C.
LB we have Rolle, Jordan and a few others..
Safety we have Jarrett, Page and Anderson.
Our depth is more unproven than it is weak… I’d be really worried if a LB went down for us. As far as the OL I’d be upset but it’d end up being fine and for Safety I have faith in Page as our main backup.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
Well
Dunlap is a liability at RT. If he weren’t, the Eagles wouldn’t have signed Harris and then moved Herremans there. Jackson hasn’t played a full regular season game in 1.5 years. He’s still an unknown.
Your LBs are bad. There’s no other way to characterize the unit until they show more in the regular season.
Jarrett is a rookie. Page was a special teams player last year. I don’t know Anderson. Allen still isn’t recovered from last year’s injury.
Team Ghost: Manningham, Sintim, Beckum, Barden, JPP, Anvil, Ross
Dunlap is a liability at RT. If he weren’t, the Eagles wouldn’t have signed Harris and then moved Herremans there. Jackson hasn’t played a full regular season game in 1.5 years. He’s still an unknown
Dunlap’s a little bit of a liability but he’s not bad. Justice is on the mend, he’ll probably be back at practice soon.. Jackson is a backup and played well this pre-season.
Your LBs are bad. There’s no other way to characterize the unit until they show more in the regular season.
They’re not bad, outside of Casey right now we actually have guys who can do what we need. Casey’s the weak link, that’s about it. You can’t characterize them as good or bad.
Jarrett is a rookie. Page was a special teams player last year. I don’t know Anderson. Allen still isn’t recovered from last year’s injury.
Allen will be fine and Page has been a starter for a while, last year he wasn’t but he’s looking good too. Jarrett’s shown flashes and will probably get playing time as the year goes on. Anderson’s essentially a very good special teams guy.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
Is there any chance...
that Dodge gets to the practice squad?
Not really
There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ
The 2011 Mets- Rock bottom: We haven't reached it yet
CB depth is a ?
but the the starters are good
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 3, 2011 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions
still could pick up someone on waivers
by oldschoolblue64 on Sep 3, 2011 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions
hope they do
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 3, 2011 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions
4 rookie LBs made the roster
all undrafted and late draft picks. lol this should be a bad thing, but I love it.
I guess you missed Goff Boley and Kiwi
"That's mostly fans who say that kind of stuff and they really don't understand the process. We have good players on the team. We're not looking to go out and make every sexy splash that can be made. We make solid football decisions. That's been happening for a long time," Reese said
why bother looking something up yourself
when you can ask 20 inane questions at once and hope someone answers?
do the Giants play football?
In Prust we Trust
we need to get cam newton before the panther’s get off lock down cause eli cant (QB) by hisselfall this saeson also we need plax back to cause smith is the best (WR) we got nd plax cant help smith nd the team out….. do that nd we have a a shout at the superblow
by Master Ov Brutality on Sep 3, 2011 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Why worry? Jerry Reese is AWESOME at evaluating LBs
and I say this with no facts or anecdotal evidence to support my argument!
There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ
The 2011 Mets- Rock bottom: We haven't reached it yet
How would you or any of us know
No chance that he had other priorities that he thought were more important. No a GM that has never had a losing season, who other teams fans drool over, let’s mock him before the season starts.
He’s hit his critics with a pie in the face almost every year (2009 his handling of the safety position being a counter example), so pardon me if I trust that our LBz will get rounded into shape by the beginning of next season.
"That's mostly fans who say that kind of stuff and they really don't understand the process. We have good players on the team. We're not looking to go out and make every sexy splash that can be made. We make solid football decisions. That's been happening for a long time," Reese said
The linebackers have sucked since he's been here
Why should I pretend to be optimistic about a bunch of UDFAs?
There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ
The 2011 Mets- Rock bottom: We haven't reached it yet
How bad was the group in 07
Since then an older group, that got picked apart post Superblow, has not been the top priority
Our DBs were a mess after 07, less you wanted to hold onto CBs on SOcial Security
After 08 was WRs
after 09 Safeties
Etc
I’d love them to be able to fix everything at once, sometimes you fix the important stuff first (like DT, wait till Austin is healthy) and the lower priorities however you can.
And please, don’t start telling me what the priorities should be, unless your an insider we just don’t know.
Finally, are you saying that prolonged winning is a failure?
"That's mostly fans who say that kind of stuff and they really don't understand the process. We have good players on the team. We're not looking to go out and make every sexy splash that can be made. We make solid football decisions. That's been happening for a long time," Reese said
by trueblue63 on Sep 3, 2011 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
crickets.....
I will be at the season opener NYG @ WAS with a few friends. If you are going and feel like looking up a fellow BBVer and having some fun, let me know.
Team TD
Sintim Ware
Herzlich Hixon
Jones Cruz
Sash Barden
Kennedy Dodge
LBs are not the focus of the 4-3 D in the modern league
It was designed around Sam Huff, but with the passing game’s prevalence, it’s become a caretaker position. The front 4 and DB’s are higher priority.
That being said, it’s exciting to see so much promise in our rooks that we have nothing but as our backups. Herz, Jones and Paysinger will be studs and starting players in the near future. Boley should be sure to play lights out if he wants to keep his roster spot past this year. Kiwi and Goff are homegrown, so they have less to worry about as far as losing their jobs, but they will be challenged. Jones has got to be licking his chops for Goff’s spot. Kiwi has to stay on the field if he is ever going to develop into what we know he can be.
Bleeding Blue since 1962
Kiwi has to stay on the field if he is ever going to develop into what we know he can be.
which may be a DE.
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
Giant LB'z SUCK!!? Mark Herzlich, Greg Jones,Spencer Paysinger...Maybe not..
I do think Kiwi's got some very good potential as a DE. I don't quite understand the thinking
behind moving him to LB.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
dude don't even try to reason with him.
he’s bipolar. one min he’s optimistic next minute he’s pessimistic.
One min he’s a G-Fan, the next he says F. The Giants.
that’s how some fans are.
LOL
This site is so over the top optimistic about anything and everything Reese does, and everytime someone dares criticize him, they either get laughed at or called a troll.
I’m a Giants fan and always will be, but I don’t think Jerry Reese is a great GM.
There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ
The 2011 Mets- Rock bottom: We haven't reached it yet
by Syler on Sep 3, 2011 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
so your the one piloting his blimp...
"Am I not destroying my enemies when I make friends of them?"
-Abraham Lincoln
"Let me explain something to you. Um, I am not 'Mr. Lebowski'. You're Mr. Lebowski. I'm the Dude. So that's what you call me. You know, that or, uh, His Dudeness, or uh, Duder, or El Duderino if you're not into the whole brevity thing."
-Jeffery Lebowski, The Dude
man if you critique JR's move
you’re not a fan….sheesh
You've been spoiled
Imagine rooting for a team like the Bills or the Raiders who consistently fail year in and out. No one is saying JR is perfect, but he seems to be right more often than not, and that does make him a good GM (note: I said good, not great, he hasn’t been at it long enough to fully judge anyways). But at the end of the day, he gets us good players, what more can you ask?
Reese's 2007 draft, but the core of that team was built by Accorsi
There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ
The 2011 Mets- Rock bottom: We haven't reached it yet
"2007 draft helped"
There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ
The 2011 Mets- Rock bottom: We haven't reached it yet
yeah but Reese was part of the draft team
that drafted the previous years too. So he had a lot of input into that team.
"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning
Reese was the Giants top draft coorindator/scout under Acorsi
Team Ghost: Manningham, Sintim, Beckum, Barden, JPP, Anvil, Ross
Yeah! What he said!
"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning
He doesn't deserve all the credit
the GM before him built most of that team. The rookies from that year contributed a good amount.
by Mother Tucker on Sep 3, 2011 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Plus pick-ups he made
Resigning O’Hara, Ruegamer, Torbor, Wilson… signing K. Mitchell and Hixon
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 3, 2011 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Um and he was the #2 guy under Ernie before that
No GM gets all the credit, heck if TC doesn’t do his thing they never make the playoffs
But he deserves more respect than he gets, especially from Giants fans
"That's mostly fans who say that kind of stuff and they really don't understand the process. We have good players on the team. We're not looking to go out and make every sexy splash that can be made. We make solid football decisions. That's been happening for a long time," Reese said
I have no problem.
I have accepted you for who you are lol. We are all fans of the G-Men and we all have different opinions and preferences.
But your comments comes off as if you think Reese is a terrible GM which he is not.
You make comments without anything to support it
It’s very trollish.
Team Ghost: Manningham, Sintim, Beckum, Barden, JPP, Anvil, Ross
Like what?
There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ
The 2011 Mets- Rock bottom: We haven't reached it yet
Do you really want me to search for an example?
I can, if you want.
Team Ghost: Manningham, Sintim, Beckum, Barden, JPP, Anvil, Ross
Let me guess, you'll pick something about a certain WR?
There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ
The 2011 Mets- Rock bottom: We haven't reached it yet
I'm still waiting for your Reese f...ed up numbers for Smith
I’m still waiting for you to explain why Hixon as the #3 WR isn’t proven.
Team Ghost: Manningham, Sintim, Beckum, Barden, JPP, Anvil, Ross
All indications are pointing to Smith playing early in the season
and as for Hixon…his 5 games after Burress got hurt as the #1 guy
5 catches for 71 yards
3 catches for 30 yards
6 catches for 60 yards
4 catches for 71 yards
4 catches for 62 yards
2 catches for 37 yards in the playoff game
And in 2009, his lone big play at receiver was the 61 yard touchdown against the Eagles
You really think he’s an adequate replacement for Smith??
There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ
The 2011 Mets- Rock bottom: We haven't reached it yet
How does playing as the #4 WR mean that Reese messed up?
Even if he plays, he’s not going to be 100%. Unless Smith is playing ahead of Avant and playing at a high level, then Reese didn’t mess up.
As for Hixon, he’ll be the #3 WR on the team. His numbers are fine for that role. Manningham will be Smith’s replacement because he’s taking the 2nd most targets after Nicks.
Manningham averaged 59 yards per game last year and the only reason it was that high was because he started in place of Smith. If he had been the #3 WR all season long, it would’ve been lower. In other words, a #3 WR who averages 30-50 yards is fine.
Team Ghost: Manningham, Sintim, Beckum, Barden, JPP, Anvil, Ross
I critiqued JR in my post, so pack that weak sauce up
He’s a top GM, he isn’t Jesus or Satan capable of bending time and space. He can only get done with so much every year.
It’s undeniable that since 2007, our LBs are now younger, faster and showing more upside. Does that mean he’s found us a superstar? No, but let’s at least wait till game 6 to say these guys suck. Paysinger, Jones and Goff looked very good this preseason. Kiwi is a player, and Boley with JPP in front of him, is running free making plays. I’m not starry eyed, but it hardly looks like a disaster.
"That's mostly fans who say that kind of stuff and they really don't understand the process. We have good players on the team. We're not looking to go out and make every sexy splash that can be made. We make solid football decisions. That's been happening for a long time," Reese said
Syler, your opinion is diminished by the results.
If you want a championship every year you are almost always going to be disappointed. Just like 31 teams every year.
It would be nice if we could have a sort of Dynasty type run like the Pats of 10 years ago, or the Cowboys 10 years before that, but, it’s just so rare.
Be happy we have an organization, a GM, a head coach, and a QB that give us a chance to be a contender every year. And you can’t say that we don’t. Over the past 7 years a disaster season for us is 8-8.
I will be at the season opener NYG @ WAS with a few friends. If you are going and feel like looking up a fellow BBVer and having some fun, let me know.
Team TD
Sintim Ware
Herzlich Hixon
Jones Cruz
Sash Barden
Kennedy Dodge
+1
Let them bash Eli all they want. The bottom line he has us in contention every season.
Nail meet head
Eli IS the main reason we will contend every year. Inconsistencies be damned…
I will be at the season opener NYG @ WAS with a few friends. If you are going and feel like looking up a fellow BBVer and having some fun, let me know.
Team TD
Sintim Ware
Herzlich Hixon
Jones Cruz
Sash Barden
Kennedy Dodge
more crickets....
I will be at the season opener NYG @ WAS with a few friends. If you are going and feel like looking up a fellow BBVer and having some fun, let me know.
Team TD
Sintim Ware
Herzlich Hixon
Jones Cruz
Sash Barden
Kennedy Dodge
Get back in the kitchen Nancy
It is dinner time. I also would like it if you leave your negative nature away from the dinner table. Thanks!
"Kick ass. pop champagne. And get some ho's"-Hideki Matsui
by Livestrong77nyy on Sep 3, 2011 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions
young crop to work with
could get real nasty around here
by oldschoolblue64 on Sep 3, 2011 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Gotta go with some young talent.
The guys you kept are better football players than Athletes IMHO.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
Don't quite understand what you're asking here?
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
agreed completely
and to me LB’s have gotta be game smart before they have a chance to be good.
This is a very anti Reese like group of LB’s (He usually chooses the athletic guys and lets the coaches mold them, ie. JPP, Manningham, Ross etc)
But I think it’s the right choice here.
You down wit JPP?
I think JR decided during 2009 that the team needed to get faster
Last 2 drafts has been about increasing the positional speed everywhere except OL
RB, WR, DT,DE LB, CB, S all got faster quicker players. JR makes mistakes, but he’s usually a year or two ahead. It’s why I trust him.
"That's mostly fans who say that kind of stuff and they really don't understand the process. We have good players on the team. We're not looking to go out and make every sexy splash that can be made. We make solid football decisions. That's been happening for a long time," Reese said
I think LB's need to be more smart than athletically gifted..
See Eernie Sims or Curry… Highly talented but can’t do anything with it.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
Dude there is a thread with 1600 posts with this stuff
Go read it
"That's mostly fans who say that kind of stuff and they really don't understand the process. We have good players on the team. We're not looking to go out and make every sexy splash that can be made. We make solid football decisions. That's been happening for a long time," Reese said
Can you make a separate thread for anyone who wants to talk about the college games, because it was getting a little annoying to read the other thread.
you could go to a college football site
Let's agree to disagree - right after you admit that you're completely wrong.
If no one is perfect does that mean I do not exist?
True participation here is strictly voluntary
"That's mostly fans who say that kind of stuff and they really don't understand the process. We have good players on the team. We're not looking to go out and make every sexy splash that can be made. We make solid football decisions. That's been happening for a long time," Reese said
I mean keeping this thread just for the talk about the roster
in the other thread :http://www.bigblueview.com/2011/9/3/2402333/nfl-roster-cuts-new-york-giants-trim-to-53-open-thread#comments
it kept switching between college games and giants stuff
Dude, our fearless leader needed some PT with his family
So we did a huge thread on cut down day
Normally Big Ed cuts us off and keeps the threads manageable. give the guy some slack
"That's mostly fans who say that kind of stuff and they really don't understand the process. We have good players on the team. We're not looking to go out and make every sexy splash that can be made. We make solid football decisions. That's been happening for a long time," Reese said
+1000
this is exactly what i was going to say.
i know there might be a lot of people who also like college football…but i honestly dont care at all about it.
there are surely to be plenty of other sites you can go talk college football…or make your own thread?!?
In Prust we Trust
we need to get cam newton before the panther’s get off lock down cause eli cant (QB) by hisselfall this saeson also we need plax back to cause smith is the best (WR) we got nd plax cant help smith nd the team out….. do that nd we have a a shout at the superblow
by Master Ov Brutality on Sep 3, 2011 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Roselfels to IR with ... wait for it ... strep throat?
Welcome to the new softer NFL.
Did the Giants owe Sage the 2011 salary guaranteed or something? Can’t imagine they’d want to pay him $3MM to sit at home with his Chloraseptic spray.
I've been hospitalized by strep throat...
It gets so bad that my throat will swell completely shut and I can’t breathe. I got it the worst when I was in the Navy and no antibiotics would put a dent in the infection. I had to get steroid shots to reverse my throat swelling because nothing else worked. I took IV after IV because I couldn’t swallow and was so dehydrated they checked me into the hospital. Now whenever I get a sore throat with a fever I go straight to the emergency room because it was honestly the most horrible thing I’ve ever had to deal with medically.
Let's agree to disagree - right after you admit that you're completely wrong.
If no one is perfect does that mean I do not exist?
Wow!
That’s brutal. Forgive me, I think we may have discussed this before, but, where did you serve with the Navy?
I will be at the season opener NYG @ WAS with a few friends. If you are going and feel like looking up a fellow BBVer and having some fun, let me know.
Team TD
Sintim Ware
Herzlich Hixon
Jones Cruz
Sash Barden
Kennedy Dodge
I went through the nuclear power program in South Carolina...2+ years...
Pearl Harbor for about a year.
Then the submarine I served on was decommissioned in the Puget Sound Naval Shipyard and I finished my time on a sub in Bangor, WA.
Let's agree to disagree - right after you admit that you're completely wrong.
If no one is perfect does that mean I do not exist?
Interesting tour.
Hawaii must have been an awesome place to be stationed. (is there anywhere better?). You sub squids are a ‘special’ bunch, having to be able to stay down in that tube for weeks or months at a time. How was WA?
I was stationed at VA beach when I was a jet mechanic for A-6 bombers.
I will be at the season opener NYG @ WAS with a few friends. If you are going and feel like looking up a fellow BBVer and having some fun, let me know.
Team TD
Sintim Ware
Herzlich Hixon
Jones Cruz
Sash Barden
Kennedy Dodge
Interesting it was...but frustrating as well
I’d have to say that my time in SC was the best for me…it’s where I met my wife. Hawaii was great at first but it’s like the saying goes – “A great place to visit but I wouldn’t want to live there”. The first month was amazing but as time goes on I started to get a bit of Island Fever. I was looking forward to getting back to the mainland and my family. If I was single then Oahu would have been paradise…and I’m not just talking about the weather. Still, being based at Pearl Harbor was definitely something I think anyone in the Navy (or any service member) should experience. The history really makes you appreciate the those who have sacrificed in the past to ensure the freedom we enjoy today.
WA was great. My wife moved up so that had a lot to do with it but that area is beautiful as well. Plus, I was part of the crew who stayed on until the boat was completely torn apart. So, I had another 2 years in the Navy without having to go out to sea which you know is really unheard of. That duty was extremely satisfying…the coolest thing I have ever done was disassemble a nuclear reactor plant. Not many people get to stand on a balcony over a open nuclear reactor vessel and look down at the inner workings while removing the spent fuel.
The jet mechanic gig is a great one…both while you’re enlisted and in life after the military. It’s some serious business being a jet mechanic…very intense work that requires the best people doing it. Can’t be a slouch when you’re on the job. Funny…My father was an aviation mechanic when he was in the Air Force. I would have loved to do that, too.
Let's agree to disagree - right after you admit that you're completely wrong.
If no one is perfect does that mean I do not exist?
Well thank you for the insight to your Navy career!
Like many servicemen, especially those who were in the Navy like us, you got to see some great places and do some very interesting things. I can read the sincerity in your ‘voice’ when you describe taking apart that sub. Awesome.
I can relate to the disassembling the nuclear power plant. I once had a month of duty as the night baker’s assistant on the USS Eisenhower. lol… It was just me and him from 11pm to 5 am… baking, making hootch, rocking to the likes of Alice in Chains. ;-)
I will be at the season opener NYG @ WAS with a few friends. If you are going and feel like looking up a fellow BBVer and having some fun, let me know.
Sunday, Sept. 11 2011 NYG 23 WAS 13
Dude, I feel you man, I got strep bad a few years ago
and they had me in the hospital for 3 days getting antibiotics through and IV.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy...
absolutely horrible.
Let's agree to disagree - right after you admit that you're completely wrong.
If no one is perfect does that mean I do not exist?
Yeah man, I actually got Mono last week.
And almost got hospitalized because my temp was 102 for a good 3 days.
The problem with me I have never tested positive for Strep, they have to send out cultures to see if I have it. And I had a few signs of Mono but the doctor said if I don’t test positive for Strep I’m not going to show all the symptoms of Mono.
I hate needles and they had to do 4 mono tests on me.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
Donald Lee please
Check out the funniest person on youtube Edbassmaster: http://www.youtube.com/user/edbassmaster
Yankees>Rest of MLB
They Finally called up Baby Jesus
agreeeeed
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 3, 2011 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes
There were at least 3 TEs released that could help us
If Lee is healthy he is #1
"That's mostly fans who say that kind of stuff and they really don't understand the process. We have good players on the team. We're not looking to go out and make every sexy splash that can be made. We make solid football decisions. That's been happening for a long time," Reese said
i'm really hoping for Lee. Can't see us goin a whole season w/ Beckum and Ballard
"Am I not destroying my enemies when I make friends of them?"
-Abraham Lincoln
"Let me explain something to you. Um, I am not 'Mr. Lebowski'. You're Mr. Lebowski. I'm the Dude. So that's what you call me. You know, that or, uh, His Dudeness, or uh, Duder, or El Duderino if you're not into the whole brevity thing."
-Jeffery Lebowski, The Dude
Lee and the others are more true 2- way TEs
It would open up the playbook. Bex hasn’t been on field enuf to just say he’ll be fine in that role, Ballard is a very limited pass catcher
"That's mostly fans who say that kind of stuff and they really don't understand the process. We have good players on the team. We're not looking to go out and make every sexy splash that can be made. We make solid football decisions. That's been happening for a long time," Reese said
i think the key...
is talking Ben Patrick out of retirement.
In Prust we Trust
we need to get cam newton before the panther’s get off lock down cause eli cant (QB) by hisselfall this saeson also we need plax back to cause smith is the best (WR) we got nd plax cant help smith nd the team out….. do that nd we have a a shout at the superblow
by Master Ov Brutality on Sep 3, 2011 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions
who are the other 2 u think would be worthwhile?
Nobody wins the SB in August
Talk is Cheap! Play the Game!
Desmond Clark and Dante Rosario
Both are more accomplished blockers than what we’ve got, but can’t be ignored in coverage. They’ll only draw LB cover, but they can get open on the short stuff
"That's mostly fans who say that kind of stuff and they really don't understand the process. We have good players on the team. We're not looking to go out and make every sexy splash that can be made. We make solid football decisions. That's been happening for a long time," Reese said
How Many Undrafted Free Agents do we have on our roster at the moment?
I know Hynoski, Herzlich and Paysinger from this year and Cruz from last year, but I’m not sure of there are others as well.
We got Pascoe off someone else's roster....
So I didn’t know if he’d been drafted or not, and didn’t know Ballard’s status, nor that of Martin, Coe or Williams, but if you’re right, and it’s seven, that seems like a large number, particularly recently. 7 out of 53 is over 13% of the roster.
pascoe was a 6th round pick in '09 from 49ers
"Am I not destroying my enemies when I make friends of them?"
-Abraham Lincoln
"Let me explain something to you. Um, I am not 'Mr. Lebowski'. You're Mr. Lebowski. I'm the Dude. So that's what you call me. You know, that or, uh, His Dudeness, or uh, Duder, or El Duderino if you're not into the whole brevity thing."
-Jeffery Lebowski, The Dude
oh and Coe was chosen in the 5th rd, 2007 draft by Colts
"Am I not destroying my enemies when I make friends of them?"
-Abraham Lincoln
"Let me explain something to you. Um, I am not 'Mr. Lebowski'. You're Mr. Lebowski. I'm the Dude. So that's what you call me. You know, that or, uh, His Dudeness, or uh, Duder, or El Duderino if you're not into the whole brevity thing."
-Jeffery Lebowski, The Dude
Thanks again, that gets it down to five if Ballard was...
Which I think still is a lot and has got to be an advantage in getting future UDFA’s to come to the Giants as it shows they’re open to adding them to the roster if they stand out. Duke was another UDFA who made the roster last season. I’m just thinking that if I wasn’t drafted and was looking for a team to try and go to for preseason, I’d look at positional need, and their record on whether they actually ever accept UDFA’s onto the roster.
i think i heard this was a big reason paysinger came here
"Am I not destroying my enemies when I make friends of them?"
-Abraham Lincoln
"Let me explain something to you. Um, I am not 'Mr. Lebowski'. You're Mr. Lebowski. I'm the Dude. So that's what you call me. You know, that or, uh, His Dudeness, or uh, Duder, or El Duderino if you're not into the whole brevity thing."
-Jeffery Lebowski, The Dude
It would make sense to me if it was...
and if it was a factor, I’m glad he it was, as he looks like he’s going to be a good player based on what we saw in preseason.
i'm just totally blown away
by the UDFA LB corps we got to come into our camp. They totally deserve to be here and I’m so thankful that these guys were able to become a part of our team. This is HUGE. Injuries suck but when you’ve got a bunch of young, hungry guys wanting to step in and prove themselves, that’s when you know you have a winning formula.
In Reese We Trust
It really is inspiring how much promise the young LB's have.
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Team TD
Sintim Ware
Herzlich Hixon
Jones Cruz
Sash Barden
Kennedy Dodge
i hope this isn't serious
if it is, invalid argument
are you the invalid police?
Die hard Giants fan since wide Right! I was 5...
I'm down wit JPP
Yea you know me
im guessing
it’s sarcasm
Nobody gives you a chance, you gotta take chances- weezy
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by espnsucks ((banned)) on Sep 3, 2011 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Chicago trade likely?
What about the Jints sending a #2 ti Chi-town for Briggs? It would force a restructuring of his contract but give us an immediate upgrade!
Isn't Briggs like 30?
There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ
The 2011 Mets- Rock bottom: We haven't reached it yet
yup.
Not a good idea to give a 30 year old a big contract
Nobody gives you a chance, you gotta take chances- weezy
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by espnsucks ((banned)) on Sep 3, 2011 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions
lol like Vick!
I have not yet begun to procrastinate
by TheWenz on Sep 3, 2011 8:34 PM EDT via iPhone app up reply actions
he also is more protected by the league as a QB
and, he was in prison for almost 2 years and has that much less wear and tear. Farve played to 40. Vick could play through ANOTHER contract, depending on the circumstances.
In Reese We Trust
what's the difference?
Both QBs get hit. It’s just that 1 get hit when he’s trying to get positive yards and the other just throws the ball away.
Not true
A QB who is running exposes himself to more hits than a QB who is in the pocket. You can avoid a hit by throwing the ball away. You can’t get rid of the ball when you’re running. All you can do is hope you slide or get out of bounds.
Team Ghost: Manningham, Sintim, Beckum, Barden, JPP, Anvil, Ross
Not to mention
His speed will greatly decrease in the near future
Nobody gives you a chance, you gotta take chances- weezy
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by espnsucks ((banned)) on Sep 3, 2011 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions
This
Both are true
But if he slows down or worse his reflexes slow it all unravels. Vick’s problem is that he doesn’t really trust himself in the pocket.
"That's mostly fans who say that kind of stuff and they really don't understand the process. We have good players on the team. We're not looking to go out and make every sexy splash that can be made. We make solid football decisions. That's been happening for a long time," Reese said
Speed
That is just speculation that his speed will decrease (especially saying “greatly”) The guy is a physical freak. Look at how fast Darrell Green was when he was 40. He was still one of the fastest guys in the NFL.
by NYStateofMind on Sep 5, 2011 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions
I wouldn't send a #8 pick to the Bears
too much money and Briggs and Boley are redundant.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
we already have one crybaby on the team in Osi, don't need another
"Am I not destroying my enemies when I make friends of them?"
-Abraham Lincoln
"Let me explain something to you. Um, I am not 'Mr. Lebowski'. You're Mr. Lebowski. I'm the Dude. So that's what you call me. You know, that or, uh, His Dudeness, or uh, Duder, or El Duderino if you're not into the whole brevity thing."
-Jeffery Lebowski, The Dude
no thanks on Briggs
Die hard Giants fan since wide Right! I was 5...
I'm down wit JPP
Yea you know me
Giants have a Briggs
His name is Osi
"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning
look 2 comments up, lol
"Am I not destroying my enemies when I make friends of them?"
-Abraham Lincoln
"Let me explain something to you. Um, I am not 'Mr. Lebowski'. You're Mr. Lebowski. I'm the Dude. So that's what you call me. You know, that or, uh, His Dudeness, or uh, Duder, or El Duderino if you're not into the whole brevity thing."
-Jeffery Lebowski, The Dude
Yeah, posted before reading - my bad
but it’s true
"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning
no prob
great minds think alike, lol
"Am I not destroying my enemies when I make friends of them?"
-Abraham Lincoln
"Let me explain something to you. Um, I am not 'Mr. Lebowski'. You're Mr. Lebowski. I'm the Dude. So that's what you call me. You know, that or, uh, His Dudeness, or uh, Duder, or El Duderino if you're not into the whole brevity thing."
-Jeffery Lebowski, The Dude
The Bears declined the Redskin’s Round 1 pick (it was like #8 overall) AND their high Round 2 pick. for Briggs. And that was just two years ago. Any team is going to need more than just a Round 2 pick for Briggs (mostly because the Bears value Briggs a bit too much).
"It's not going to make me try to hit you any harder, because I'm going to do that anyway." - Brian Dawkins
lol
isn’t it funny that he’s not worth a new contract but he’s worth a 1 and a 2 (or more) pick just to send him off. That’s just screwed up and poorly principled business.
In Reese We Trust
just as funny
as when JR thinks of Osi in the same way???
Nobody wins the SB in August
Talk is Cheap! Play the Game!
I think that was 3 years ago when he was 27 and in the prime of his career
3 years changes things a lot
"That's mostly fans who say that kind of stuff and they really don't understand the process. We have good players on the team. We're not looking to go out and make every sexy splash that can be made. We make solid football decisions. That's been happening for a long time," Reese said
Agreed, but I still think the Bears will be looking for a 1st + a pick. Not because he’s worth it, but the Bears are somewhat delusional. They could also pull a Carson Palmer and just not accept any trade whatsoever to show Briggs “who is boss”.
"It's not going to make me try to hit you any harder, because I'm going to do that anyway." - Brian Dawkins
by TheRealMcCoy on Sep 5, 2011 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions
i like the roster
Almost all the guys we wanted to make the team made it.
Die hard Giants fan since wide Right! I was 5...
I'm down wit JPP
Yea you know me
though Lee is tempting
Die hard Giants fan since wide Right! I was 5...
I'm down wit JPP
Yea you know me
They still make 250k one practice squad right?
Nobody gives you a chance, you gotta take chances- weezy
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by espnsucks ((banned)) on Sep 3, 2011 7:52 PM EDT reply actions
$10k a week
I think I read that last year, it’s around $10k a week on the PS.
I think they bumped that up with the new CBA actually.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
who is broadcasting the OU v LSU
Die hard Giants fan since wide Right! I was 5...
I'm down wit JPP
Yea you know me
Shhhh
We’re not supposed to be talking about college football. ND coming back.
by Mother Tucker on Sep 3, 2011 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions
i dont have cable what channel
Die hard Giants fan since wide Right! I was 5...
I'm down wit JPP
Yea you know me
TE??
Can we please pick up a decent TE already. The ones on this roster suck!!
by Giantsforever on Sep 3, 2011 8:01 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
won't make much difference
if he does get hurt.
Oregon LSU network?
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I'm down wit JPP
Yea you know me
always here
Are team is gone. We should just take the L.A stadium. And start over cause it seems like u gave are team away…
by Amsterdam Admirals on Sep 3, 2011 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions
1. If I were Beckum or Pascoe or Ballard I wouldn’t count my blessings until a few more days go by.
2. I think the 53rd spot came down to Derrick Martin vs. Michael Clayton. I don’t know why they went with Martin, but it doesn’t really matter because he’ll get cut when Barden is back. Unless someone else goes on injured reserve.
by hopeforthefuture3 on Sep 3, 2011 8:50 PM EDT reply actions
Is it just me, or is everyone
heaps pumped for our rookie linebackers?!!!?!??!
Like Eli, I did it...
Find Syler
"That's mostly fans who say that kind of stuff and they really don't understand the process. We have good players on the team. We're not looking to go out and make every sexy splash that can be made. We make solid football decisions. That's been happening for a long time," Reese said
He's entitled to his skepticism
But I get irritated by the “homer” nonsense. Everyone is biased by their outlook, I’m an optimist (at least in the preseason). So somehow my optimism is because I’m brainwashed or not able be critical of the FO. That’s insulting.
"That's mostly fans who say that kind of stuff and they really don't understand the process. We have good players on the team. We're not looking to go out and make every sexy splash that can be made. We make solid football decisions. That's been happening for a long time," Reese said
I'll try and cool it with the "homer" talk
I also admit I’m over the top at times. But to me at least, it seems like there is a tendency at times on this site to forego critical analysis and just judge players by “look and feel”
There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ
The 2011 Mets- Rock bottom: We haven't reached it yet
There is a definite 'lean' towards optimism.
That makes sense, no? We see alot of winning around here and were lucky enough to have seen the Giants win it all 4 years ago. That inspires confidence in most of us. I can only imagine how much more negativity there must be on the teams like the Bills, or the 49ers sites, for example.
But we need guys like you to make things much more interesting.
I will be at the season opener NYG @ WAS with a few friends. If you are going and feel like looking up a fellow BBVer and having some fun, let me know.
Team TD
Sintim Ware
Herzlich Hixon
Jones Cruz
Sash Barden
Kennedy Dodge
I definitely know I'm a homer
but I’ll call out the F’ups just as quick as the next guy.
You down wit JPP?
hells yeah
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 3, 2011 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions
don't get too pumped
their inexperience will show once the real season starts especially early.
Greg JONES!
he’ll cause a turnover on his first game – whenever that will be
Team Monster:
JPP
"Da Real" Scott
Greg JONES
Herzlich
Paysinger
Jacquin Williams
and SASH
plus
TC doesn’t trust rookies or inexperienced players. It should be interesting with the LBz because after the starters he’ll have little choice.
He has a big hand in picking the roster
I think he’s cautious, but he plays the best guys (more or less)
"That's mostly fans who say that kind of stuff and they really don't understand the process. We have good players on the team. We're not looking to go out and make every sexy splash that can be made. We make solid football decisions. That's been happening for a long time," Reese said
in 2007
due to injuries he had no choice. The rookies performed well. However, it was late season.
Well He's played 1st rounders early and other guys later
But he’s often had pretty good vets on the roster to play ahead of them. He has to have noticed the lack of team speed, and it can’t be a coincidence that almost every pick for 2 years was directed towards that.
It’s the plight of good teams, you don’t get top 10 picks, you rarely get the outrageous athletic studs (Eric Berry?) and you have to get younger and more athletic all the time. That means breaking in the young guys all the time.
"That's mostly fans who say that kind of stuff and they really don't understand the process. We have good players on the team. We're not looking to go out and make every sexy splash that can be made. We make solid football decisions. That's been happening for a long time," Reese said
+1
I definitely like how we’ve increased our team speed as well as got younger…. much younger.
IMO TC lack of trust in the young guys is a detriment and hampers their progress. 2007 definitely proved that.
It seems like there are 2 schools of thought
Some coaches prefer more polished, less mistake prone play. They are willing to forego the potential returns from the young guys.
Other coaches are willing to endure the growing pains of youth
TC likes his guys more polished, but he will play someone if he trusts them
"That's mostly fans who say that kind of stuff and they really don't understand the process. We have good players on the team. We're not looking to go out and make every sexy splash that can be made. We make solid football decisions. That's been happening for a long time," Reese said
I question TC's instincts on this.
Just look at the OLine’s performance last year when the “starters” were in vs. the backups.
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Team TD
Sintim Ware
Herzlich Hixon
Jones Cruz
Sash Barden
Kennedy Dodge
No doubt he'll err on the side he prefers
"That's mostly fans who say that kind of stuff and they really don't understand the process. We have good players on the team. We're not looking to go out and make every sexy splash that can be made. We make solid football decisions. That's been happening for a long time," Reese said
I hear you.
But that pesky 2007 championship year when rookies like Boss, 44, and Smith had major contributions make me second guess TC’s philosophy on this one.
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Team TD
Sintim Ware
Herzlich Hixon
Jones Cruz
Sash Barden
Kennedy Dodge
But let's remember it also meant giving Diehl LT
And Moss was the speedy guy then, Toomer the slow steady vet
I wish TC was a bit less predisposed towards vets, but when I saw Dallas throw Romo under the bus to play some rookies I thought that was stupid too.
"That's mostly fans who say that kind of stuff and they really don't understand the process. We have good players on the team. We're not looking to go out and make every sexy splash that can be made. We make solid football decisions. That's been happening for a long time," Reese said
Yeah, I remember the great decision
to let Pettigout go, which i saw a smart because he always had a bad back, and for no particular reason I like Deihl. And Amani was still a solid contributor, but, isn’t one of the major stories of that year the draft class of 2007?
This is nothing new, TC does not trust rookies. Sometimes it’s smart, but the bigger and more troubling picture is his rigidness when it comes to his philosophies. It holds our team back sometimes, IMO.
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Team TD
Sintim Ware
Herzlich Hixon
Jones Cruz
Sash Barden
Kennedy Dodge
Amen to that
I’m sure every coach prefers that his veterans get the job done. But if they’re getting the job done, you have to react. You can’t just keep throwing them out there. There are only 16 games. They’re very precious.
Team Ghost: Manningham, Sintim, Beckum, Barden, JPP, Anvil, Ross
Precious indeed.
I will be at the season opener NYG @ WAS with a few friends. If you are going and feel like looking up a fellow BBVer and having some fun, let me know.
Team TD
Sintim Ware
Herzlich Hixon
Jones Cruz
Sash Barden
Kennedy Dodge
I got that the first time Ghost
No worries…
I will be at the season opener NYG @ WAS with a few friends. If you are going and feel like looking up a fellow BBVer and having some fun, let me know.
Team TD
Sintim Ware
Herzlich Hixon
Jones Cruz
Sash Barden
Kennedy Dodge
Dodge and Weatherford
I still think keeping dropping Dodge for Weatherford is a mistake, if only for thinking beyond this season. I can only assume Weatherford will be gone again after this year like he has done with all of his other teams and then we will be back starting from scratch looking for another new punter next year. Oh well, lets hope we get the most out of him while he’s here.
They just couldn't turn to Dodge again after last year
And why can’t they keep Weatherford? He’s only 28 and punters have a long lifespan
There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ
The 2011 Mets- Rock bottom: We haven't reached it yet
He has had 4 teams in 5 years. As far as I can see he is just a merc player. 1-2 year contracts. Takes his money, does his plays, goes on to his next team/contract. Unless he suddenly stops doing that I expect he will move on again next year.
by Midnight Blue on Sep 3, 2011 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions
One key thing: He's never played for the Giants before.
There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ
The 2011 Mets- Rock bottom: We haven't reached it yet
Jets I believe.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
Think about this with Dodge
what happens the first time this guy shanks one in the Meadowlands, the fans will booooooooooooooo him mercilously. What about the first week we go agianst the Eagles, and the press comes looking for him to remind him.
They simply could not bring him back here. In the minds of many (not so objective) fans he is the scapegoat for the worst loss in the past 15 years or more.
Needed ro go with a fresh start
You down wit JPP?
I agree here. Dodge got a lot of hate.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
faking injury
Nobody gives you a chance, you gotta take chances- weezy
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by espnsucks ((banned)) on Sep 3, 2011 9:15 PM EDT reply actions
I like Dee Martin
I don’t think we’ll keep him because of the TE we’ll pick up. Martin did a nice job in the Patriots game. Seems like a sure tackler.
by brandon7 on Sep 3, 2011 9:17 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
he was in good spots...
plus if we cut him, he can make the PS I think
Team Monster:
JPP
"Da Real" Scott
Greg JONES
Herzlich
Paysinger
Jacquin Williams
and SASH
Trent Edwards was still in this league? holy cow
He just got cut by Lolaiders
Nobody gives you a chance, you gotta take chances- weezy
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by espnsucks ((banned)) on Sep 3, 2011 9:17 PM EDT reply actions
damn...hahaha
Team Monster:
JPP
"Da Real" Scott
Greg JONES
Herzlich
Paysinger
Jacquin Williams
and SASH
Surprises...
Surprised the Giants released Andre Brown and Adrian Tracy. I have never been a big DJ Ware fan. He catches the ball out of the backfield well and is a good backfield blocker for Eli. But, I definitely thought Andre Brown would have been an upgrade. With Sintim out for the season I thought Tracy would back up Kiwi at SAM. Who among the youngsters can play SAM behind Kiwi. I would not be surprised to see the Giants scouring the waiver wire for a available veteran OLB as well as a TE. I do not feel comfortable with Ballard, Pascoe and Beckam.
they Greg Jones and Herzlich play some SAM during the preseason
Team Monster:
JPP
"Da Real" Scott
Greg JONES
Herzlich
Paysinger
Jacquin Williams
and SASH
Rookies
Jones and Herzlich did show some ability, but would prefer that the Giants pickup a veteran to back up at OLB. I am not a big proponent of rookies playing prominent backup roles.
+1
especially early in the season. It’s one thing getting excited over their play in meaningless preseason games. It’s another during the regular season game. Watching some preseason games is like watching games in slo-motion.
Paysinger, Jones and Herzlich
Are heady players, less mistake prone than normal rooks, I think that had somtehing to do with it
"That's mostly fans who say that kind of stuff and they really don't understand the process. We have good players on the team. We're not looking to go out and make every sexy splash that can be made. We make solid football decisions. That's been happening for a long time," Reese said
I'd love nothing more
than you post this link in a few weeks saying “I told you so”
Not my style
I say what I think, but WTF do I know? I’m just a fan like everyone else, I don’t pretend if I’m right I ought to be working with JR on the blimp.
But if one of these guys is really good, I might ask JR if I can do a ride along
"That's mostly fans who say that kind of stuff and they really don't understand the process. We have good players on the team. We're not looking to go out and make every sexy splash that can be made. We make solid football decisions. That's been happening for a long time," Reese said
If Jones naturally bulks up
He might be special. I never watched him in college, but it was said that he played the game intuitively. I saw that in preseason. No hesitation, just saw it and reacted. Supposedly he has some technique issues, but those can be overcome.
I like Paysinger too, a similar kind of player.
"That's mostly fans who say that kind of stuff and they really don't understand the process. We have good players on the team. We're not looking to go out and make every sexy splash that can be made. We make solid football decisions. That's been happening for a long time," Reese said
Jones is already bulky
at 240 to 250 something and at 6ft
that’s good enough, he looked more than able to hold most of his own out there…
It’s J Will that is the skinniest of them all
but he looked pretty darn good out there…he’s the one that needs to bulk up a bit, not to much where he loses his quickness though – he can still be wiry strong
Team Monster:
JPP
"Da Real" Scott
Greg JONES
Herzlich
Paysinger
Jacquin Williams
and SASH
been silently rooting for this kid
I’m a Ducks fan, and I didn’t want to jinx his chances to make the squad.
All 4 of them have shown a lot of potential. and with a year or so on the team we could be looking at a couple of them as top notch starters.
I like Goff in the middle but how long he holds that position with Jones behind him will have to be seen, Paysinger impressed me in college and I’m psyched to see him in Blue, he’s a right place all the time type of guy, as is Herzlich. And the wildcard is definitely Williams, the athlete who is learning on the fly.
Time will tell if they advance, bnut as for this morning I’m completely satisfied to go in to the season with the LBZZZZ the we got.
You down wit JPP?
+100000000000000000000000000000
couldn’t agree more. We should start seeing some solid play from them 2/3 into the season.
Not to surpised with Dillard gone...he just didn't show much of anything
would be surprised if he went on PS…
we have an abundance of depth at LBz now…even though they aren’t proven
there’s just too many of them for him to overcome.
Team Monster:
JPP
"Da Real" Scott
Greg JONES
Herzlich
Paysinger
Jacquin Williams
and SASH
JJ looks like a high round bust
keep. Could rank among worst ever. Like keeping great Scott. More depth at CB and TE in waiver wire? Should be a very good year for pick-ups due to shortened preseason.
Considering he's never stepped on the field in a real game...
and his team hasn’t played one since he joined them, that might be a bit harsh.
Absurd
JJ looks like a high round bust. Could rank among worst ever.
I’m always disappointed that there are people like this who call themselves Giants fans.
Team Ghost: Manningham, Sintim, Beckum, Barden, JPP, Anvil, Ross
by GhostDini on Sep 3, 2011 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
just a friendly reminder
its a fan site lol
That if you're not a fan of the Giants...
Why are you on here, and trying to bury a guy that hasn’t set foot on the field yet.
My two cents
I am not sure you can call a 3rd round pick who has yet to play a down of regular season football a bust. Yes, he was inconsistent both as a returner and at WR during the pre-season. Lets give the kid a chance before we label him one way or the other. For instance, the love fest going on for the Giants rookie LB’s is a little ridiculous. Herzlich is a great, uplifting story. But, seriously, these are rookies, two of them UDFA’s. Lets tone it down with the hero worship. I would like to reconvene after the season and we can grade the rookies then.
Agree... Absurd
The guy has great speed, flashed one GREAT punt return and one GREAT catch on 2 pt conversion. Jerry Rice had problems holding onto the football when he first came into the league. Not comparing the ability of these two, just saying give the kid some time to get rid of the jitters. He could be an AWESOME player for the Giants in a year or two.
by NYStateofMind on Sep 5, 2011 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Plus...
They will keep coaching him and showing him film on how to keep his elbows in when catching a punt. I’m sure they’ll keep drilling it into him in practice. Hopefully he gets it and can give the Giants some electric punt returns and get on the field in some 3 or 4 WR sets working against some second rate DB.
by NYStateofMind on Sep 5, 2011 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions
worst bust ever?
Tim Carter and Sinorce Moss come to mind pretty quick. Let the guy play in a real game before he is labled the worst giant draft pick ever.
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 3, 2011 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Dunno about bust, but Mason Foster was available in the 3rd round
and went the following pick to Tampa so will be following both careers closely :)
Like Eli, I did it...
why?
why bother? Nothing we can do about it now.
+1
I feel exactly the same as you and others but nothing gonna change it now.
Not comparing JJ to Foster
Yes I wanted him too… I was just trying to figure out how JJ is a bust already
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 3, 2011 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Greg Jones is a better Mason Foster.
Same strengths, same weaknesses, but Jones had more production in a tougher conference for longer.
I’d rather have Jernigan and Jones than Mason Foster and whoever else we might’ve picked in the 6th round.
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by BigBlueIntervention on Sep 4, 2011 12:04 AM EDT up reply actions
Dave Brown
Cedric Jones. Rocky Thompson was probably the worst …. by far.
I remember
Rocky ran a kick off back early on and everyone thought he was going to be a weapon for us. Ha!
Go Giants!
+1
then that was it. He never did another thing
Don't forget...
Tyrone Wheatley, Ron Dayne, William Joseph, Thomas Lewis, Derrick Brown, and Jarrod Bunch. Pretty much every first round pick during the 90’s was a flop. Rodney Hampton was the only one worthy of his 1st round pick. Ike Hilliard, Shaun Williams and Luke Petitgout were serviceable starters but could hardly be considered stars.
Loved Ike
his career ended early with all the big hits he took
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 3, 2011 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions
i thought wheatley, dayne, and bunch were decent?
by jadedeed2327 on Sep 4, 2011 12:19 AM EDT up reply actions
Depends on how you define decent
Wheatley was ok once he left the Giants. Dayne was good that one year. And Bunch was good before he got hurt, he just did not play long before that.
And I think all of those awful picks in the 90s just made me appreciate Rodney Hampton even more. He still immediately comes to mind when I think of my favorite Giants players ever. I’d say right up there with Toomer, but I think I liked Hampton even more.
by Midnight Blue on Sep 4, 2011 1:56 AM EDT up reply actions
Amazing how many times Ernie or George 'swung and missed' on RB's in the first round.
I can’t help it, everytime I read your sig name the song with the same title pops in my head. :-)
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And Now...
JR keeps finding awesom RBs with 7th round picks. Guess people who are critical of JR should think twice and look back to the quality of picks before he came onto the scene.
by NYStateofMind on Sep 5, 2011 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions
JJ
Will be a good player for us. I think he’ll settle down as the punt returner.
4 rookie linebackers. Two UDFA and two 6th rounders. Wow. I don’t think anybody thought that would happen four weeks ago. I hope the injury bug stays away from the starters while they get their legs under them!
Go Giants!
How about we give him a season before we call him anything
Self-praise is for losers. Be a winner. Stand for something. Always have class, and be humble.
-John Madden
5 fumble/muffs in 5 tries preseason?
very moss like in size,
and a great catch on a 2-point Conv
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 3, 2011 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
GREAT CATCH! Good adjustment on the ball
and the "Toomer Style" foot work
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 3, 2011 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions
He reminded me of Dave Meggett
Very quick from standstill to full speed, very quick into cuts and out, lots of fluid movement
If he can’t calm down and let the game come to him, he’ll bust, if he can he’s a great talent. Given the short camp its way early to judge a small school guy.
"That's mostly fans who say that kind of stuff and they really don't understand the process. We have good players on the team. We're not looking to go out and make every sexy splash that can be made. We make solid football decisions. That's been happening for a long time," Reese said
plus
Meggett sucked big time at the begining as a PR… Parcells always got on his case for it.
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 3, 2011 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions
besides being a scumbag?
lol, but yes he was a very good returner
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 4, 2011 12:25 AM EDT up reply actions
I'll admit he's had his problems as a punt returner...
but he made the team as a receiver, and are you forgetting he had a nice catch for the game winning conversion against New England?
JJ
should work exclusively with Weatherford during practice. For now forget about WR duties.
agree with that
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 3, 2011 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions
That's what he didn't get because of crazy preseason
He muffed one, got the yips, but he seems to be moving on
"That's mostly fans who say that kind of stuff and they really don't understand the process. We have good players on the team. We're not looking to go out and make every sexy splash that can be made. We make solid football decisions. That's been happening for a long time," Reese said
if there was
OTAs, Rookie Mini camps, etc… the guy would be more prepared
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 3, 2011 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Exactly
"That's mostly fans who say that kind of stuff and they really don't understand the process. We have good players on the team. We're not looking to go out and make every sexy splash that can be made. We make solid football decisions. That's been happening for a long time," Reese said
More prepared to do what? Catch a football?
I’ve never played in the NFL (by personal choice – obviously) but I don’t see how OTAs or mini-camps would “prepare” him to catch the ball. Hey, maybe he should have just let the ball drop or call fair catches. I do think nerves have something to do with his issue but he has had problems in practice with catching punts.
I’m not buying him a blimp ticket…I’m just saying…the missed rookie workouts can’t be the main cause of his drops.
He dropped more punts in this preseason than Dodge did catching the snap all year last year.
Let's agree to disagree - right after you admit that you're completely wrong.
If no one is perfect does that mean I do not exist?
more prepared to NFL life
is a big reason for his yips. No way am I excusing his drops. This is all brand new to him. Coming from a small college program like Troy then going to the NY Giants is like visting a new planet. Rookies in the past have had the benefit of months to get acclimated, JJ has had 4 weeks.
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 3, 2011 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions
I guess he's sort of like a deer stuck in the headlights...
I hope he gets things straightened out because if he does then he could be an impact player.
Let's agree to disagree - right after you admit that you're completely wrong.
If no one is perfect does that mean I do not exist?
yeap
for now Hixon as PR and Thomas as KR is the safe way to go. Maybe Scott as KR at some point
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 3, 2011 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions
I feel guilty because I always forget about Hixon
Let's agree to disagree - right after you admit that you're completely wrong.
If no one is perfect does that mean I do not exist?
Instead of OTAs working on technique
And camp 2 a days, they had a ton of meetings. Obviously there were issues, he just didn’t have the same amount of time and opportunity to work them out. Then when we watched him in games he might have looked better.
"That's mostly fans who say that kind of stuff and they really don't understand the process. We have good players on the team. We're not looking to go out and make every sexy splash that can be made. We make solid football decisions. That's been happening for a long time," Reese said
According to Coughlin
JJ’s issues were body positioning. That could’ve been worked on in minicamp and OTAs.
Team Ghost: Manningham, Sintim, Beckum, Barden, JPP, Anvil, Ross
You could see him explaining how to change arm position
Reps definitely matter, catching punts, solving math problems or learning a language, practice matters
"That's mostly fans who say that kind of stuff and they really don't understand the process. We have good players on the team. We're not looking to go out and make every sexy splash that can be made. We make solid football decisions. That's been happening for a long time," Reese said
Body positioning...
Okay, If I look at it like that then I can see that coaching could address issues like that. It kind of like the QB coach…I always wondered why a starting NFL QB needed someone to “coach” them specifically…mechanics are best observed and addressed by a second party.
Let's agree to disagree - right after you admit that you're completely wrong.
If no one is perfect does that mean I do not exist?
It's like a pitching coach
You can lose arm slot, get your balance wrong, open your shoulder up, etc. and you need somebody to point it out to you.
Team Ghost: Manningham, Sintim, Beckum, Barden, JPP, Anvil, Ross
Yup, and it needs to be addressed on the field
as it happens so you can correct the problem immediately. Going into the film room and seeing it yourself, then trying to go out and correct it yourself just seems inefficient and possibly ineffective.
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Sintim Ware
Herzlich Hixon
Jones Cruz
Sash Barden
Kennedy Dodge
he fumble 3 against the Jets as well
I got banned from Jests Blog for saying Chad Henne has better stats than Mark Sanchez. And they think they're the big brothers in this town? LMAO try again little sisters!
Let's Go Giants!!!!
he is just nervous rookie, give him some time
by jadedeed2327 on Sep 4, 2011 12:22 AM EDT up reply actions
What was JJ doing in pop warner, hs and college?
No one taught him how to catch a punt? If not, how did he get to the nfl based on that skill?
In college, another student in my class did not know that the combatants in Ww1 were the us, uk, france, etc. V. Germany. Keep in mind that when i went to college, ww1 was not so long ago. The professor was not mad at the student, just perplexed that one could get to an upper level political science class and not know that.
I feel the same with Jernigan. He reached the highest pinnacle of his career without the basic ability to do his job? Catching a punt is not brain surgery. He is an athlete .
by scarlet knight on Sep 4, 2011 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm sure...
That he can catch a punt. I think somebody pointed out in another post that he did it in college. Admittedly, his form is bad (he needs to keep his elbows tucked in as TC and Ross were trying to tell him before and during the NE game). But I don’t think any of us can imagine the nerves and pressure associated with trying to play in the NFL as a rookie. I’m sure he will settle down in time and will be able to do his job. I’m guessing that even in practice he does way better. But he probably has coaches standing next to him reminding him what to do, and he isn’t doing it in front of 80,000 screaming fans and millions of tv viewers. Some players excel in the spotlight, some get nervous and fail. If he never gets over his issues he will become a bust. But I think if he starts making some good plays, his confidence will build and he will be ok. (at least I hope so)
by NYStateofMind on Sep 5, 2011 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions
te situation
who do the gmen want to go after roasrio donald lee or desmond clark ?
vasher
how bout nathan vasher or any other corners on your minds we need someone that can step in bec we know ross is gonna get hurt ? maybe hanson ?anyone else ? we do have rolle as some depth so keep that in mind ?
I for one am shocked, SHOCKED, that
Sinorce Moss got cut by the iggles. SHOCKED, I tell you!
"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning
UFL here comes Moss
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 3, 2011 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions
And Tiki
"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning
lol
almost forgot
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 3, 2011 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions
that's total BS!!!
You will never convince me that you forgot about “TB2K11”…
I want to see Tiki announce his un-retiring with a LeBron James-esque announcement show. It won’t be “The Decision” exactly…it will most likely be called — “Barber’s Backstabbing Bounce-Back Bid”. No stools needed because he’ll be on his knees begging for a GM somewhere to make him relevant once again.
Oh, we’ll watch it…we will.
Let's agree to disagree - right after you admit that you're completely wrong.
If no one is perfect does that mean I do not exist?
this
whole thing was one big lol, nicely done. And yes, I would watch it, pure TV gold
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 3, 2011 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions
I personally prayed for it.
The dude had Pre-season superstar written all over him.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
Didn't the iggles guys guarantee us that
they wouldn’t cut Hanson?
"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning
And he'll sit out if he can't get a big contract
"That's mostly fans who say that kind of stuff and they really don't understand the process. We have good players on the team. We're not looking to go out and make every sexy splash that can be made. We make solid football decisions. That's been happening for a long time," Reese said
Hmmm...I thought he was never wrong
No shot in hell they cut him.
Bleeding Green Nation – Eagles
Blogging the Beast – NFC Eastby JimmyK on Aug 30, 2011 10:12 AM EDT upreplyactions
Hanson has value. Someone will give up a pick for him. Why would they cut him?
Bleeding Green Nation – Eagles
Blogging the Beast – NFC Eastby JimmyK on Aug 30, 2011 10:19 AM EDT upreplyactions
"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning
You question Jimmy K?
tisk, tisk…
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Herzlich Hixon
Jones Cruz
Sash Barden
Kennedy Dodge
typo!!
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
Giant LB'z SUCK!!? Mark Herzlich, Greg Jones,Spencer Paysinger...Maybe not..
Your sig looks pretty sweet today
I figured at least one of them would get cut
"That's mostly fans who say that kind of stuff and they really don't understand the process. We have good players on the team. We're not looking to go out and make every sexy splash that can be made. We make solid football decisions. That's been happening for a long time," Reese said
He was wrong. Yippy.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
No. Like I said above.
there were like 2 guys who were clearly delusional who claimed he was worth a 3rd. And probably a handful more who thought he was uncuttable.
It was a small part of our population.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
Watching Giants Access Blue
they just did a segment on the Special Teams… Tom Quinn see’s alot of good things out of this group…. so we’re doomed, lol
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 3, 2011 11:21 PM EDT reply actions
I really don't get it with this unit on this team...
Coughlin had to address poor special teams play after EVER game last season. You’d think it would have been such a traumatic experience that handling STs would have been a reflex after the lockout ended.
Now after 4 preseason games of shaky ST play we still see nothing. I’m praying that something is going on behind the scenes that will unfold each week. If STs plays poorly again this season I’m not sure how this fan base will react.
Let's agree to disagree - right after you admit that you're completely wrong.
If no one is perfect does that mean I do not exist?
They drafted
most of this years draft with an eye towards ST. There should be alot more talent there this year but with no OTA’S they are a little behind in their development .
"Can't win with Tom Quinn"
Special teams
Who will be returning kickoffs and punts?
by BIGblueintheface on Sep 3, 2011 11:54 PM EDT reply actions
JJ feels like Matt Dodge all over again, except not as bad.
Mental game with the dude, but I have a feeling that his jitters will be over sooner than later and we’ll see more of the dude that returned that one punt 42 yards…
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Tyler Sash
Jason Pierre-Paul
Will Beatty
Justin Trattou
by BigBlueIntervention on Sep 3, 2011 11:59 PM EDT up reply actions
agree
Thomas kickoffs but I hope Scott gets it at some point
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 3, 2011 11:59 PM EDT up reply actions
I still see a lot of people pissing on JR.
I hope you remember that JR had a part to play in our UDFAs as well. He was the one who called them, and they accepted the Giants’ offer because he provided the opportunity. Its a testament to JR that 3 UDFAs made the team.
He ain’t perfect, but damn, he ain’t a bad one…
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by BigBlueIntervention on Sep 4, 2011 12:01 AM EDT reply actions
still in the market for a Cornerback? or TE
what do you guys think about Crezdon Butler from Pitt or Joselio Hanson Philly any juice left in our old corner Will Allen?
Desmond Clark TE possibility ?
depends on the price. We have the money, but we don't want to overpay for who will likely be
stopgaps…especially at CB for when Prince comes back.
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Will Beatty
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by BigBlueIntervention on Sep 4, 2011 12:15 AM EDT up reply actions
dont we have enough cornerbacks already and prince coming back
by jadedeed2327 on Sep 4, 2011 12:23 AM EDT up reply actions
well, if we can upgrade the nickel CB right now...because after Prince comes back
he’ll still need to get acclimated to playing at the NFL level. He’s had ZERO practice since his time in Nebraska basically.
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by BigBlueIntervention on Sep 4, 2011 12:27 AM EDT up reply actions
so we have webster and ross with coe and brian williams backing up
if we bring anyone in, where would he fit in and who would be replaced
by jadedeed2327 on Sep 4, 2011 12:43 AM EDT up reply actions
only interested in bringing in a clear upgrade over coe or willians to play slot
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by BigBlueIntervention on Sep 4, 2011 12:49 AM EDT up reply actions
do you see andre brown making another team
i really feel bad for the guy, he worked his butt off to get back from an injury and did better imo then ware and should have made it over him
Remember
Thos guys are mainly just that… backups. Giants have already said that Rolle is playing CB in nickel packages.
by NYStateofMind on Sep 5, 2011 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions
2010 draft
That’s 3 of those guys from last year cut, Dillard, Tracy and Dodge; maybe the Giants aren’t so precious about holding on to their draft picks after all. With Chad Jones’ accident, that just leaves us with JPP, Anvil and Petrus from last year.
game of numbers
the team can only keep so many LBz. The ones they brought in this season were better.
I hope Ryan Perrilloux makes it to the practice squad
Isn’t it amazing that we actually might have solved the linebacker quality issue without drafting a linebacker very high? I think our second team on defense is awesome. I really liked Michael Coe’s play against New England.
Ryan Perrilloux, in his limited time, looked to me like he could be a real NFL QB. Such poise so young, and good decision making. And we seem to have good backups for the offensive line. It seems (could be preseason delusion) that we have gone a long way towards addressing two of our three biggest weaknesses (OL and LB) without really taking any dramatic action.
This should be a fun season. I think we have a chance to set a new NFL record for sacks. And I can’t think of a single Giants player that has an annoying personality.
Win or lose, and hopefully mostly win, this should be a year when the team gives us some fun play. I can’t imaging that we will have the lack of enthusiasm from two years ago.
I am burning some incense to the football gods to keep our ACL’s intact.
Let the games begin.
I am a fan of Kevin Gilbride and I don't care what you say
I think
What will hurt the Giants the most this season is a lack of another weapon on offense to keep defenses honest against both stacking the line to stop the run and doubling Nicks. Next year 1st round pick should be another stud WR. Then keep adding depth to OL. Overall team looks great. Like you said, I think the depth of this team is awesom both O and D. 2nd team played very well against NE starters.
by NYStateofMind on Sep 5, 2011 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't get the Rosencopter IR
No one would have picked him up. He is not an exceptional back-up. He may be the 4th best QB on the roster. He would be available next year. Why was he not cut?
I am a fan of Kevin Gilbride and I don't care what you say
I agree...To some extent. i think he's a good backup
They wasted a year for him. i think he could have backed up somewhere else. if your quarterback goes down, he could take over. i thought he wasn’t that sick (strep throat). I assume the Giants have to pay him.
by scarlet knight on Sep 4, 2011 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Normally I'm quite optimistic but...
….I’m concerned about the lack of depth. We’ve got the talent at skill positions, the OL looks great as usual and the DL scares the crap out of most opponents. Each of the young players looks good, but when you see them all listed together……
Just in general…..ever since Plax shot himself I’ve had the sense that this is a talented team that will do well but doubts itself in critical moments. We need to pull a game or two out of our butts this year, win one that we have no business of winning because somebody makes a huge play. Get a sense that the breaks are gonna go our way.
Ah….screw this BS, let’s play some footbal! and see what happens.
Blue is the color of melancholy and honesty
Green is the color of inexperience, envy and nausea.
I agree with you, this team needs to KNOW
that when things get tough in a game, when you are down and things look bad, that the leaders on the field can rally the troops and overcome any obstacle.
I thought the comeback win against JAX last year might propel us to bigger and better things, but we need to beat the Eagles to gain the confidence we need. (Season is getting close, I’m starting to use the word ‘we’, more.)
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Sintim Ware
Herzlich Hixon
Jones Cruz
Sash Barden
Kennedy Dodge
People forget that the 07 team was sort of older
08 was it’s last hurrah, we’ve been retooling since 09. This season the roster looks much better than 09 and 10. Younger faster hungrier and plenty of talent.
"That's mostly fans who say that kind of stuff and they really don't understand the process. We have good players on the team. We're not looking to go out and make every sexy splash that can be made. We make solid football decisions. That's been happening for a long time," Reese said
Lack of Depth???
Are you serious? That’s probably the teams biggest strength. Did you not see the 2s playing very well against the Patriots’ 1s?? If not for Hixon’s fumble and letting the Pats have a 1yard TD drive and one horrendous pass by our backup QB, our second unit mostly played their starters to a draw. That seems like AWESOME depth to me or some really amazing coaching.
But I think you’re onto something with Plax. But I don’t think it’s lack of confidence. It’s just lack of an amazing playmaker. Nicks is getting there, but we need one more great weapon in the passing game. When Plax was there it kept defenses honest and the running game was amazing because of it. And Eli didn’t have to throw it for 4000 yards. The Giants are a better team when Eli only throws 3000 some yards and we are just churning out yards on the ground. But in order for that to happen we need another explosive threat in the passing game.
by NYStateofMind on Sep 5, 2011 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions
charles scott
Played fullback a few times during preseason. Wish would could of kept him he did well
by S OzZy825 on Sep 4, 2011 11:05 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Just haven't seen enough from him
to warrant keeping Ware. Just not impressed with that decision.
Quit playing not to lose. Start playing to WIN! Geeez...
Ware makes me angry...
Well, not exactly. Still, the guy is garbage and I saw enough of Andre Brown to give him a shot on the roster instead of keeping one who has always failed to impress.
I don’t like keeping picks for sentimental value, but I guess every GM probably has one or two (see: Sinorice Moss)…
I don't buy the argument
that JR keeps guys just because it’s his pick. He cut Tracy, Dillard and Dodge this year. Moss was our 5th or 6th WR. I’m sure if he was on the team it’s because there wasn’t a better 5th or 6th WR on the team. I don’t know of any great #5 or 6 WRs in the league, do you? Besides, all the guys on the team are his “picks”, whether they come from the draft, FA or trades. JR signed them all. They are all ‘his" guys. I’m sure he and the coaching staff keep who they think are the best. They see way more of these guys than we do. I’m sure they have good reasons for all their roster moves.
by NYStateofMind on Sep 5, 2011 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Who gets cut
when Barden and Koets come back?? Pascoe? Cruz?
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