'Kudos & Wet Willies,' The Streak Is Dead Edition
by Ed Valentine on Sep 26, 2011 9:00 AM EDT
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Sunday's 29-16 victory by the New York Giants over the Philadelphia Eagles is the kind of performance that has has been missing from the Giants' resume for a while. In reality this is the first time since a 2009 victory over Dallas in Week 2 that the Giants have gone on the road and won a game they weren't supposed to win against a good team.
This is the kind of confidence-building victory that can propel a team to good things. Coach Tom Coughlin has been preaching eliminating mistakes and finishing games strong. The Giants accomplished both of those things Sunday in a game that showed that, despite all of their injuries, the Giants can compete with anyone in the league.
"We fought our way back," Coughlin said in his post-game press conference. "We just kept pounding away, and the other factor was we didn't turn it over.
"I was proud of the guys the way they went about their business."
Today's 'Kudos & Wet Willies' are after the jump.
Kudos To ...
Kevin Gilbride -- Many of you kill the Giants' offlensive coordinator week after week, and there are times when he deserves it. Sunday, though, Gilbride was brilliant. He used well-designed pass routes to attack the edges of the Philadelphia defense, called a beautiful play that resulted in a 40-yard touchdown pass to Brandon Jacobs, stuck with the run and called a screen pass that resulted in an 18-yard Ahmad Bradshaw touchdown.
Victor Cruz -- A certain member of Big Blue View constantly asks for players to 'step up and make big plays.' Cruz, making his first start Sunday, did exactly that for the Giants. A 74-yard catch and run for a score and a terrific 28-yard touchdown catch in traffic at the goal line. Your quarterback looks better when receivers make plays for him, and Cruz did that for Eli Manning on Sunday.
Eli Manning -- Ended up with the highest quarterback rating of his career for a full game, 145.7. I can't think of one ball Eli threw that he really should not have. Manning was 16-for-23 for 254 yards and four TDs. It would be hard to play much better.
Jason Pierre-Paul -- Nine tackles, two sacks. The giants had apparently challenged JPP during the week, asking him to step forward. He did. As far as I'm concerned whenever Osi Umenyiora comes back he is a part-time pass-rush specialist. JPP deserves to start and play full time. By the way, is there an NFL rule we don't know about forbidding officials from calling holding on guys blocking JPP? For three games it seems every time I look at the TV screen somebody has a fistful of Pierre-Paul's jersey. The thing I never see is a flag.
Ahmad Bradshaw and Brandon Jacobs -- Bradshaw had 86 yards on 15 carries, including a punishing 37-yard run that brought memories of Ottis Anderson abusing would-be tacklers in the Super Bowl against Buffalo. Bradshaw, catching more passes this season, caught five sunday for 53 yards -- including a beautifully executed screen for an 18-yard touchdown and a 26-yard catch and run. Jacobs had only seven carries for 19 yards, but had a beautiful run to score a two-point conversion and made a nice catch to end up with a 40-yard touchdown reception from Manning.
Aaron Ross -- Give Ross credit. He took advantage of a tipped ball to intercept Michael Vick and stifle a Philly scoring opportunity in the first quarter. Then, in the fourth, did not bite on a double move by DeSean Jackson and came away with a nice interception of a Mike Kafka pass.
Kenny Phillips -- Through three games, KP is playing at a Pro Bowl level. Nine tackles, a forced fumble that unfortunately did not bounce the Giants way, and a game-clinching interception. I can't remember the exact circumstances, but Phillips also made one play that likely saved a long touchdown run by LeSean McCoy.
Jacquian Williams -- It is becoming increasingly obvious that GM Jerry Reese and the Giants' scouting department saw something no one else saw in this rookie linebacker, and that they were right. Nine tackles for Williams, who seems to be playing more and more. He has the speed and athleticism that is needed to play linebacker in the modern NFL, he seems to find the football, he can cover and it doesn't look like he misses many tackles.
Michael Boley -- Six tackles for Boley, and two that really stand out. One was a leap over the pile on the Giants' goal line stand to help stop Michael Vick inside the one-yard line. The other was a fourth down open-field tackle of LeSean McCoy that denied Philly a first down and started the Giants' fourth-quarter rally.
Red Zone Defense -- I was listening to Carl Banks on the radio during the pre-game and he prophetically said the Giants could not worry about the yardage they gave up, but that they had to play good red zone defense. They did just that, giving up just one touchdown in five Eagles' trips to the red zone. There was a Ross interception to stifle one drive, and a brilliant goal line stand from inside the one on another drive. Great work.
Tom Coughlin -- Nothing specific in terms of a play or a challenge, but you have to give Coughlin credit. With all the hits this team has taken, all the negativity from the media and the fan base and all the lingering memories from the 2010 debacle against the Eagles Coughlin has obviously managed to do one thing -- keep this giants team believing in itself.
Wet Willies To ...
Travis Beckum -- The Giants only looked Beckum's way once Sunday, and it was a disaster. Facing fourth and three from the Eagles' 31-yard line and trying to keep the ball away from the Eagles Eli Manning looked in Beckum's direction. Beckum made the catch, the only problem was that needing three yards Beckum ran a one-yard route, then stumbled and fell short, turning the ball over to the Eagles on a play that should have been an easy first down.
This is Beckum's third season, and the Giants have waited a loooooong time for him take advantage of his physical skills and become a reliable target. Mental mistakes like this at critical times won't gain anyone's trust.
Antrel Rolle -- A bad unnecessary roughness penalty on Rolle for the second straight week, putting the Eagles at the Giants' 11-yard line and setting up their first touchdown. Rolle has been in the league too long to contiune doing this kind of stuff. He let his emotions get the better of him two plays in a row in the second quarter, and the second one drew a flag. You simply can't let your personal feuds with a guy like DeSean Jackson spill over onto the field and hurt your team, and that is what happened to Rolle. He actually played well, particularly in run support, but you can't put your teammates in bad situations week after week.
Michael Vick -- For whining that the Giants were hitting him with cheap shots and that he does not benefit from the same calls other quarterbacks get. Really, Michael? C'mon, now. You took a lot of hard shots from the Giants, including the one from Chris Canty that broke your hand. I can't, however, recall any dirty ones. There weren't any helmet-to-helmet shots, nothing blatantly late, just good good, hard football.
The shot he took from Dave Tollefson after throwing the first-quarter interception was a legit hit. Vick was trying to go make a tackle, and he's fair game. Besides which, Vick does not play or run like any other quarterback.
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If you guys are like me
you’re eating up every bit of info on the game this morning.
Here are two more LOVELY reads:
http://www.bleedinggreennation.com/2011/9/26/2449787/talk-me-off-the-ledge
http://www.bleedinggreennation.com/2011/9/25/2449226/are-you-ready-for-this
I recommend not making any comments. They are upset and are banning everyone who’s not crying today.
Details of the operations of an interstate dog fighting ring were revealed, with some portions involving drugs and gambling. Gruesome details involving abuse, torture and execution of under-performing dogs ... He admitted to being involved in the destruction of 6–8 dogs, by hanging or drowning...
the tears. They give me sustenance.
Team Greg Jones
Team Jerry Reese
We may have the Dream Team in our division, but we're the ones to give you nightmares.
by BigBlueIntervention on Sep 26, 2011 9:06 AM EDT up reply actions
Thirsty?
BGN has a 2-for-1 special on tallboys
Details of the operations of an interstate dog fighting ring were revealed, with some portions involving drugs and gambling. Gruesome details involving abuse, torture and execution of under-performing dogs ... He admitted to being involved in the destruction of 6–8 dogs, by hanging or drowning...
by Simms-McConkey on Sep 26, 2011 9:09 AM EDT up reply actions
hahaha
Team Greg Jones
Team Jerry Reese
We may have the Dream Team in our division, but we're the ones to give you nightmares.
by BigBlueIntervention on Sep 26, 2011 9:13 AM EDT up reply actions
And I thought we were bad
I’ll never get upset with our Greek chorus again
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
Football - It's Beyond an Addiction, It's a Way of Life.
by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16
the bad thing is if they would have won
they would be trolling all over the place. I applaud the fans who bleed the colors of their team, but there are some obnoxious iggle fans. Teaching their kids to throw batteries and flipping the bird. You stay classy Filthadelphia
by DizzyMillenium on Sep 26, 2011 9:24 AM EDT up reply actions
I dunno about that. I thought about leaving the gamethread at least a couple times
We had Giants fans showing up when we were AHEAD saying that we sucked, we could never win. Then, during the 4th Q they disappeared, never to return.
I hate people who come on here just criticize, without any positivity. I don’t mind people who criticize, but are at least positive some of the time
Team Greg Jones
Team Jerry Reese
We may have the Dream Team in our division, but we're the ones to give you nightmares.
by BigBlueIntervention on Sep 26, 2011 9:25 AM EDT up reply actions
I disappeared at the half
my wife commandeered the laptop to watch her Patriots …. I wouldn’t give her the TV
Details of the operations of an interstate dog fighting ring were revealed, with some portions involving drugs and gambling. Gruesome details involving abuse, torture and execution of under-performing dogs ... He admitted to being involved in the destruction of 6–8 dogs, by hanging or drowning...
by Simms-McConkey on Sep 26, 2011 9:38 AM EDT up reply actions
no way you can give up the tv. good call.
Team Greg Jones
Team Jerry Reese
We may have the Dream Team in our division, but we're the ones to give you nightmares.
by BigBlueIntervention on Sep 26, 2011 9:40 AM EDT up reply actions
thought you didnt have a TV.
maybe i confused u with someone else from last yr. who listens in the car.
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
Giant LB'z SUCK!!? Mark Herzlich, Greg Jones,Williams,Paysinger...Maybe not..
Yeah there are definitely a couple
talk a lot of big smack about how awful the team in general is, and then when something good happens, they’re not man enough to come back and admit they were wrong.
Your First Ever Pinstripe Bowl Champions- The Syracuse Orange
by bigbluethruandthru on Sep 26, 2011 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions
Thank you BBI.
Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
SASH
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 26, 2011 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm not one to gloat, so I won't comment over there...but I am enjoying the read.
"Winning is the most important thing in my life, after breathing. Breathing first, winning next."
by Larry Soprano on Sep 26, 2011 9:19 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, I don't go there to gloat because I don't want to get banned.
Doesn’t mean I don’t enjoy every second of it.
Team Greg Jones
Team Jerry Reese
We may have the Dream Team in our division, but we're the ones to give you nightmares.
by BigBlueIntervention on Sep 26, 2011 9:25 AM EDT up reply actions
AAAHHHHH
I have too much to read on BBV let alone more to read on BGN!! I’m at work for christ sake!
Two comments on the ledge jumper...
1. He is quite ignorant of his own team. The eagles were built for “gadget plays”. That is why they got Vick. He is Not your standard nfl quarterback. In fact, he plays like an elite (not ELIte though) college quarterback. And djax adds more versatility to that too. So that’s why Reid calls what he does. Not many other teams can, or even try.
2. Must suck when your team spends so much bank on players who just aren’t performing as planned. The eagles and their fans have been acting like nervous nellies who don’t belong in the stock market… "ah, something is happening, buy, buy buy, no, sell, sell, buy.
by NY FUBAR on Sep 26, 2011 9:38 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Free Agent signing
football is not like baseball. Football is a team sport. Signing free agents in football doesn’t guarantee anything. We learned that after 2008. When we signed Bernard, Canty and Boley many fans thought our D would be “nasty”. It wasn’t. Ironically, three years later those FAs are paying dividends. Bernard is playing his best ball since joining the Giants.
it says talk me off the ledge
but i see more of a reason to jump from his perspective. Damn, you’d think it was week 15
by DizzyMillenium on Sep 26, 2011 9:50 AM EDT up reply actions
Love this
on Watkins “hhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah IM 45 YEARS OLD AND JUST GOT DRAFTED IN THE 1ST ROUND, SILLY DO THEY KNOW I DONT EVEN KNOW HOW TO PLAY FOOTBALL. ILL JUST BE INACTIVE EVERY WEEK AND BUILD UP MY 401K FROM MY PAYCHECKS.”
Jacksonville's seeing the same problem with Rackley
Guard is a big difference from the left tackle they played in college.
"Looks like I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue."
its ironic
I created a fan post a few weeks ago comparing Ham to DJack as a WR. A few Eaglet fans paid me a visit. Now Eagle fans are doubting DJack’s abilities as a WR.
Favorite quote on the first fan thread...
“I’m not too worried about Vick as you are. The INT’s are his fault when we’ve got double agent Steve Smith.”
If this be true, if Steve Smith is a double agent, then we need to hire him back next year and double his salary!
My concern for the guy is a 16 game grind on that knee. For his long term health, he should have let himself be PUP’d, come back after the bye week and been healthy for the Giants stretch drive!
Then again, he does have a propensity for drops that bounce up into the air and turn into interceptions…
Funny thing about that
the moment that play happened, I thought “Thanks Steve, he’s still helping the Giants win games”
"Stats are for losers, so you keep looking at stats, and we’ll keep looking at wins." -Raheem Morris
by BleedBigBlue on Sep 26, 2011 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Eagles suck, but are still good
I would love to say that the Eagles are a terrible, ill-fated football team. However, the fact remains that if Vick stays in the game, they are at least 2-1 and possibly 3-0.
Vick wouldn't have made a big enough difference yesterday for them to win.
He was off all day, he threw for 140 yards in 3 quarters, and only ran for 30. Giants would have still won, the eagles D had no answers for our play calling.
Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
SASH
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 26, 2011 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Exactly.
Unless Vick was gonna play LB, I don’t see how him being in there was gonna change much.
"Stats are for losers, so you keep looking at stats, and we’ll keep looking at wins." -Raheem Morris
by BleedBigBlue on Sep 26, 2011 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Kudos to Tom Coughlin for not allowing this streak to spiral out of control.
A lesser team would have fallen victim to the hype, especially considering the way it was ended last season.
Coughlin had his team out there playing intelligent, passionate football. No stupid penalties, and minimal turnovers. Kudos Tom.
Other than that Ed you hit everything on the head.
Also, JPP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Win ugly.
by tito (eight and oh) on Sep 26, 2011 9:07 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
JPP Light = Jacquian Williams
Normally, when everybody dislikes a draft pick, like everybody did with the Jacquian Williams pick, everybody is right.
Looks like this might be one of those times when everybody was wrong. This kid may be really raw, but he sure looks like his brain is quickly catching up with his physical skills. It is very exciting to watch as a fan.
And on Coughlin, I think that he and the defensive coaches put in a really interesting game plan. They’ve been terrific against the run so far this year, so what do they do this week? Pretty much play the Nickel all game, and the hell with stopping the run. Fascinating. Definitely an interesting and successful way to coach around all of the injuries.
Not many liked the JPP pick.
How’s that working out for us, we may have gotten Jevon Kearse 2.0
Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
SASH
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 26, 2011 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions
+90. Wouldn't that be awesome to see.
Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
SASH
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 26, 2011 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions
i wouldnt say everyone hated him
just nobody had any clue who he was. In the sixth round, the pro scouting departments have a big advantage over us in game films and stuff.
I dont know about you guys, but i trusted reese on this one
I have to admit I was pissed at JR for selecting JPP
I saw him as a long range project, glad JR is the GM and not me.
by Late for Dinner on Sep 26, 2011 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions
J Williams
has made amazing progress since game one when he seemed a bit lost out there. He had a tackle for a loss and did a great job on Celek. He’s all over the field. I’m sure there will be rookie mistakes, but his athleticism is really exciting, and he seems to be a quick learnier. He was playing with the third string in pre season, but seems right at home with the big boys.
by Tucker Fredrickson on Sep 27, 2011 12:40 AM EDT up reply actions
I think you're again too tough on Antrel Rolle
first off, I love having someone who yaps a lot on the defense. 2nd, the personal foul call was extremely bias and should’ve been offsetting, even if that doesn’t condone what he did.
I’d say he deserves a kwillie cuz the penalty did get called and he put himself in that situation. But the man played a hell of a game, again, on Sunday.
And I’ve officially become a USF Bulls fan. I was a fan anyway after they beat the hell out of Notre Dame. JPP made everyone take notice and ask what are they feeding those kids there and now Jacquain Williams…I haven’t seen a LB around the ball so much since Armstead. Not even Pierce, Barrow or Boley did this sort of stuff. By week 14 he won’t be a rook anymore and I kind of can’t wait to see him guard Jason Witten.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
wow.
Team Greg Jones
Team Jerry Reese
We may have the Dream Team in our division, but we're the ones to give you nightmares.
by BigBlueIntervention on Sep 26, 2011 9:10 AM EDT up reply actions
HGH?
JPP made everyone take notice and ask what are they feeding those kids there and now Jacquain Williams
Team Greg Jones
Team Jerry Reese
We may have the Dream Team in our division, but we're the ones to give you nightmares.
by BigBlueIntervention on Sep 26, 2011 9:10 AM EDT up reply actions
naw
they keep all their local players… Keep in mind, this includes Armwood (ranked #5 in the nation) and a couple of other ranked schools in the tampa bay area, that I cannot think of right at this moment.
"Oh god help us all, the metlife blimps are coming, OMGWFTBBQFTW!!!!!!"
"Who needs a Bomar, when one can have a Perriloux"
Agreed.
The whole defense played with fire yesterday, and there were fights happening left and right.
Antrel just got caught, but you really can’t blame him too much when watching the replay.
Win ugly.
by tito (eight and oh) on Sep 26, 2011 9:13 AM EDT up reply actions
Antrelle was singled out
b/c he got into it with DJ on the sidelines of one play & the very next play got into it with Celek. If it wasnt Antrelle on consecutive incidents, I think it gets ignored.
Nobody wins the Superblow in September.
Talk is Cheap! Play the Game!
that's true. But it wasn't antrel that went to the Eagles sideline to start jawing
it was Djax. It wasn’t Celek that was wrestled to the ground after the play, it was Rolle.
Team Greg Jones
Team Jerry Reese
We may have the Dream Team in our division, but we're the ones to give you nightmares.
by BigBlueIntervention on Sep 26, 2011 9:40 AM EDT up reply actions
yeah
but the refs just saw 26 involved in both. I disagree with the penalty. It shoulda been offsetting,
Nobody wins the Superblow in September.
Talk is Cheap! Play the Game!
Yeah, sigh.
Team Greg Jones
Team Jerry Reese
We may have the Dream Team in our division, but we're the ones to give you nightmares.
by BigBlueIntervention on Sep 26, 2011 9:45 AM EDT up reply actions
Celek was just a much the aggressor.
by oldschoolblue64 on Sep 26, 2011 9:46 AM EDT up reply actions
Mentioned that last night.
You can’t do that, it’s an automatic unsportsmanlike conduct penalty. Talk about us “cheating” with the flopping last week. Celek took off his own helmet, pulled a guy down on top of him, and baited the refs into a 15 yard penalty against the other team. Talk about cheap tactics. You reap what you sow Eagles.
Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
SASH
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 26, 2011 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions
i agree its frustrating
it seemed as the refs were willing to look the other way on some things, but when the same guy is involved in consectuive incidents, they have to make an example outta him.
I do think Antrelle should know better than to get sucked in. But we know he’s a pretty emotional guy & never pulls punches.
Nobody wins the Superblow in September.
Talk is Cheap! Play the Game!
the refs should have started blowing double fouls early
and in every other NYG-PHI game.
"Looks like I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue."
whoa whoa whoa?
Beat the hell out of ND? You don’t beat the hell out of a team that racked up 500+ yards of offense. Notre Dame beat the living hell out of themselves!
nope...
they were not prepared for the USF Def.
Never seen a team that moves that fast. USF has the bend but dont break mentality of D.
How many turnovers did they create? and you are going to sit there and say ND beat themselves???
"Oh god help us all, the metlife blimps are coming, OMGWFTBBQFTW!!!!!!"
"Who needs a Bomar, when one can have a Perriloux"
ND racked up 500 yards of offense
because USF was playing off and soft. Hopefully they can keep it up and not fold at the end of the year like i’ve seen the past couple seasons under Leavett. If Skip doesn’t leave we are looking at a perennial top 25 team. GO BULLS!
by DooshLaLoosh on Sep 26, 2011 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions
seriously?
ND completely DOMINATED that game! If that were the only game they had a ton of turnovers in I MIGHT agree with you, but they have been a turn over machine! You’re not going to sit there and tell me that ND hasn’t been ready for all those other Ds too! Nice try but your homerism is showing through.
by eyerish9299 on Sep 26, 2011 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions
USF plays really freaking fast
A lot can be contributed to that. I mean really really freaking fast. ND was not expecting that…
USF let them run up and down between the 20’s but come redzone, they havent given into anyone this year.
UTEP – USF got caught looking forward to Pitt… and then remembered UTEP came to play.
"Oh god help us all, the metlife blimps are coming, OMGWFTBBQFTW!!!!!!"
"Who needs a Bomar, when one can have a Perriloux"
haha thats just silly
I’d love to see the game plan that says…Let’s let them run up and down the field and rely on a turnover in the redzone! Remember ND is the only real team they have played. You are really under the believe that USF is 5 turnovers better then ND? You don’t have a +5 TO ration, only win by 3 and BEAT THE ASS of your opponent.
by eyerish9299 on Sep 26, 2011 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions
I never said they dominated the game
or beat the ass… USF won. As in scored more points than the other team.. We held you guys out of the endzone and created turnovers, In the end, we were the better team, for that week. That is all that matters… Considering Pitt barely lost to ND, I would have to say, If given the chance to play again. USF would still beat ND.
"Oh god help us all, the metlife blimps are coming, OMGWFTBBQFTW!!!!!!"
"Who needs a Bomar, when one can have a Perriloux"
You're correct
it was R44 who said something about beating the hell out of ND. MEA CUPLA! But the fact still remains, if you look at the stat sheet anyone would guess ND won that game (minus the TOs) and 99% of the time ND wins that game! You cant expect them to cause 3 TOs in the redzone AGIAN!
and the game plan is called
Zone Defense, one of the reasons the Giants gave up a lot of yards as well.
"Oh god help us all, the metlife blimps are coming, OMGWFTBBQFTW!!!!!!"
"Who needs a Bomar, when one can have a Perriloux"
Yes..
and ND had 3 TOs in the redzone which should have a tleast yeilded FGs. So if they even get 1 FG out of those 3 possessions the game is at least tied!
You can rack up as much yardage as you want
Its a pointless stat. USF was in keep the clock running mode the whole second half. BJ Daniels didnt have to force anything down the field and just took sacks to keep the clock running. In reality, all he had to do was throw the ball up and let the receivers make a play i.e. Denard Robinson.
by DooshLaLoosh on Sep 26, 2011 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions
If WV won against LSU
we are looking at a bid for the National Championship.
"Oh god help us all, the metlife blimps are coming, OMGWFTBBQFTW!!!!!!"
"Who needs a Bomar, when one can have a Perriloux"
I thought that was a rough one on Antrel
Yeah he got flagged, but He also has been setting the tone on defense
If you liked that tough guy show yesterday, Rolle has to get some Kudos, he’s our new AP.
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
Football - It's Beyond an Addiction, It's a Way of Life.
by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16
Rolle
Maybe I am too tough on him, but I will continue to be tough on him until he starts acting like the leader he pretends to be and stops doing stupid things a veteran like him should not do that hurt his team. By the way, if you think I was tough on him you should go read the rip job Pat Traina did on him at Inside Football.
by Ed Valentine on Sep 26, 2011 9:27 AM EDT up reply actions
Everyone's entitled to their opinion, and that's a fair one to have.
A wily veteran, he is not.
Team Greg Jones
Team Jerry Reese
We may have the Dream Team in our division, but we're the ones to give you nightmares.
by BigBlueIntervention on Sep 26, 2011 9:30 AM EDT up reply actions
Trust me Ed
If we ended up with a loss here, that penalty (which directly led to a 14-10 score) would be looked at as one of the turning points.
It’s a fair criticism, but damn…Pat really let him have it lol
Win ugly.
by tito (eight and oh) on Sep 26, 2011 9:33 AM EDT up reply actions
I was amazed
Especially since Pat has to look Rolle in the eye and talk to him every day.
by Ed Valentine on Sep 26, 2011 9:35 AM EDT up reply actions
Wow, that's true.
Team Greg Jones
Team Jerry Reese
We may have the Dream Team in our division, but we're the ones to give you nightmares.
by BigBlueIntervention on Sep 26, 2011 9:36 AM EDT up reply actions
wow.
she definitely killed him. Hopefully Antrel’s got a good sense of humor and knows why he got killed like that
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
Disagree with Rolle not being a leader
He was the first one who spoke out last week and said yeah we can shut down D-Jax and showed confidence going into the Eagle game. He wears his heart on his sleeve. I won’t kill him for the personal fowl becasue both players should have been called on that, Celek had a handful of jersey and was pulling him around no call
by Late for Dinner on Sep 26, 2011 9:56 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Agreed!
Antrel is an emotional player, but I beleive he is a leader on the defense. Does he make bone headed plays, yes, but hopefully he will curtail it going forward. He gives the players who don’t speak a certain voice, trust me on this one.
by oldschoolblue64 on Sep 26, 2011 10:01 AM EDT up reply actions
Agreed, he speaks for Ross, Webster, Phillips.
He’s the leader of the secondary. I would like to see Phillips take charge more since he’s been here longer, but that will come with time. Also, has any one noticed how we all were criticizing Phillips in the pre season, and I admit, as a big Phillips supporter, I had concerns based on the pre season, everyone was worried he had lost something, and 3 weeks into the season, he’s playing like a pro bowler? I think he’ll be fine everyone. My favorite defensive player for the Giants, he’s still getting better too.
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SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 26, 2011 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yes Antrel is the leader
Its why they paid him so much, they asked him to come in and be vocal and be the leader…….KP is quiet natured, Antrel has been this way all his life and i love it….he speaks for the whole defense.
We should appreciate a guy like that, he is what we were missing. Mouthy with a mean streak and not to mention playing every position they ask him to.
Again i ak, what could be the problem with a guy like that??
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Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
Absolutely nothing.
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by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 26, 2011 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions
agreed 100%
keep hatin on rolle… ill keep rockin his jersey to the games
by The Blood of Eli on Sep 26, 2011 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions
I told everyone I liked what he said last week.
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by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 26, 2011 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions
and if he didn't get baited we would have had a free 15 yards if they call it
but he gets drawn in, and by the time the refs are looking, he’s the one making the show.
Fucking stupid.
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He Deserves It Ed
he missed a key tackle on McCoy when he didn’t wrap up……he talks too much
by Cruz Control on Sep 26, 2011 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions
That missed tackle occurred before McCoy had got a head of steam
It also gave the Eagles a first down. It was the worse tackling attempt of the game by the Giants defense. He gets credit for being precisely at the right spot. It was not as bad as the attempts by the Eagles on Cruz, ha! Don’t excuse Rolle. He is very much a part of the secondary’s terrible zone play this season. They need to keep on working on that. The Giants are bound to be blown out if they don’t. If the Rams didn’t drop balls, Bradford picks the GMen weak zone apart for a win. The Giants face a precision passer they’ll get ’Rolle’d. I think Rolle mentally lost it after his lame tackling attempt on McCoy. From then on he was his own worst enemy. The team’s success later on helped him get over his shame.
Persistence is Omnipotent. You hear me Bills?
She just had to say something i guess
and as for the defensive confusion, i stress again that we lost our starting Mike backer who made all the calls and adjustments….what does she expect, we are doing better and better each week but if she is looking for no confusion, she might have to wait until around week 8 or so.
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But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
it's obvious
Pat never really played sports. It’s safe to say she didn’t play football.
Watch the play again. Celek was engaged in blocking Rolle. Celek was pushing his hands up into Rolle’s face. What do you expect Rolle to do? It’s not the type of altercation one can walk away from without getting their head ripped off. Rolle pushed back. They grappled. Rolle fell atop of Celek. Celek pulled off his own helmet.
I like reading Pat’s insight but you throw her name around like she’s a person with infinite wisdom. Until one plays contact sports all the woulda and shoulda are meaningless. It’s not as simple as walking away. Especially when Rolle didn’t deserve the penalty since he didn’t cause Celek to lose his helmet.
Should've been offsetting penalties with that personal foul on Rolle
Celek was just as guilty.
The spirit is willing, but the flesh is spongy and bruised.
by Nine Inch Nails on Sep 26, 2011 9:42 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Probably more since he baited Rolle, and did most of the work.
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by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 26, 2011 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions
and if Rolle stays chill
Then Celek gets the call against him, 15 yards against.
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If Rolle stays chill, they still don't call Celek, there is no penalty at all.
You can’t assume that because Rolle stays chill, a Non existent call on Celek is now a 15 yard penalty. They missed the call on Celek in actuality, and would have missed it still, regardless of if Rolle was chill or not. Rolle really didn’t do much, he was wrestling with him which isn’t a penalty, and they saw Celek pull down Rolle and from their perspective, Rolle took down Celek, which is where the flag resulted. It was an incorrectly called flag from the get go. It should have either been called both ways, or not at all.
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SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 26, 2011 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Rolle was a child on that play
Celek blocked him to the ground during the play, which is perfectly legal. Rolle came up fighting after the play was over, obviously letting his bruised ego get the better of him. If a guy owns you on a play deal with it, come back and beat him next play. Do it between the whistles like a man rather than being a chippy child upset because you got tossed down on your bum bum.
And how was Celek acting while he was taking a hissy fit and took off his own helmet?
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by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 26, 2011 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions
It works both ways man.
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by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 26, 2011 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions
It didn't look like Celek took his helmet off when I was watching it
I’ll have to try to find a replay to look at it again. Either way Rolle came up off the ground fighting after the play was over, that’s going to get a flag, then he went at Celek with his face mask when Celek didn’t have a lid, that is going to draw a flag. Face it, Rolle is a knucklehead at times. If this were an isolated incident you’d be in a better place defending him, but the guy has a habit of getting unsportsmanlike flags, so he hasn’t earned the benefit of the doubt.
I agree Rolle didn't control himself,
but it should have gone both ways irregardless.
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Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
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by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 26, 2011 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Celek clearly took his helmet off
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The actual University is amazing too.
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Yeah, I've been critical of Rolle
but I can’t kill him on the personal foul because it looked off-setting to me. I guess you can say he needs to just walk away from that stuff but that’s easy for me to say from my couch.
"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning
I disagree on giving Rolle a Wet Willie.
He was disgusting in run support (in a good way), and I didn’t see his name called AT ALL for get burned in pass coverage.
He was a little heated and that penalty was dumb, but it should have been offsetting. I am unabashedly a Rolle supporter, so I may be a little biased….but he is the leader of the back 7, and it was a back 7 that shut down the Eagles as best as anybody can.
Kwillie if anything.
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by BigBlueIntervention on Sep 26, 2011 9:10 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I concur
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by Larry Soprano on Sep 26, 2011 9:12 AM EDT up reply actions
How about a WW for the penalty and Kudos for bitch smacking Celek. I bet thats the last time he messes with Rolle
I hear that!
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by BigBlueIntervention on Sep 26, 2011 9:45 AM EDT up reply actions
One bad miss on the McCoy TD
otherwise great stuff
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-John Madden
Rolle deserves a Kwillie.
The penalty wasn’t his fault, Celek had as much to do with that as anyone, should have been offsetting. The play he was terrible on was the McCoy TD run, ran right past McCoy and made an awful attempt to arm tackle him, he looked like Asomugha trying to tackle Cruz on his TD, just terrible.
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Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
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SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 26, 2011 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions
if Rolle stays chill then the flag gets thrown on Celek
refs felt they had to throw a flag, but Rolle made the spectacle, he gets the call.
This is not rocket science.
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it's not that simple
to ‘stay chill’ when your opponent is jamming your helmet up under your chin. It’s not something you just chill.
agreed.
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Williams
For the first time in a long time I think the Giants organization will not hear crying from the media and fan base about getting a LB in the draft this upcoming off season.
by brandon7 on Sep 26, 2011 9:18 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
I like these stories so much better
than the “vaunted draft pick” guys. 3 games into his professional career and some guy nobody ever heard of is playing out of his mind to beat the eagles at home… its just such a cool story.
your mom goes to college
by Oppenheimer919 on Sep 26, 2011 9:33 AM EDT up reply actions
beat the Eagles at home
is a very cool story
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What about the o-line?
I thought they provided good pass protection against the Eggs vaunted and overhyped D-line.
They took a step forward no doubt
But they still allowed three sacks, and additional pressures. Still work to be done in that department IMO.
Win ugly.
by tito (eight and oh) on Sep 26, 2011 9:21 AM EDT up reply actions
E's taking the sacks instead of the risks
It’s what must be done
They’ll keep improving (Beatty played great for a first game against Cole) and get the sacks down a bit. But the OL looked much better than week 1
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
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by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
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Agreed 100%.
At the end of this season, when Eli’s INTs are at about 12-14, and his sacks are in the 30’s or 40’s, I will be smiling like an idiot, because it means Eli stopped trying to force the ball into coverage when being pressured, and just took the sack and lived to fight another day. Might have been Eli’s main problem, trying to force it when it wasn’t there when he was being pressured, led to a lot of his picks, he seems to have understood that, and rectified it this season. Last year he felt the sack was the worse out come, when in reality, it’s the INT. He understands that now, and has fixed it, taking the sacks instead of throwing the ball up in the other team’s direction. Kudos to Eli for identifying his major flaw and correcting it.
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SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 26, 2011 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions
+1
last season we bragged because Eli was the least sacked QB. In hindsight we’d trade sacks for INTs.
Exactly,
And that is a much better trade off, sacks to interceptions.
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SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 26, 2011 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Which is on Eli, and why he gets a Kudos so far.
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"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 26, 2011 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions
especially if Eli is kind of going down
so he doesn’t get clobbered
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Kudos to Eli for stepping into his throws yesterday
He’s been throwing off his back foot since ’09 and yesterday you noticed the difference when he steps into and drives through his throws.
i think 2 sacks were on Eli
he held the ball a lil longer but Im OK with that. Im glad he’s being smarter with the ball. Its another reason that I love Eli Manning. EVERY YEAR he concentrates on getting better in certain ares of his game & EVERY YEAR he makes it happen.
Nobody wins the Superblow in September.
Talk is Cheap! Play the Game!
They are trending in the right direction
Agree there is more work to do. Hopefully the whole team takes that approach. Get better every week.
"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning
I thought the playcalling finally did something about it
quick passes and screens are how you beat blitzes and fast DEs. They ran so many slant plays I thought they were playing the Cowboys.
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Wide 9 sucks
I watched the game with a good buddy of mine (eagles fan) and he too agrees that this formation is retarded.
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by ap1150 on Sep 26, 2011 9:28 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
there's a reason nobody else uses it.
They just transformed Cole and Babin into two Osi Umenyioras that run themselves upfield and out of the running play.
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by BigBlueIntervention on Sep 26, 2011 9:31 AM EDT up reply actions
They even said something about there stance
neither one of em are looking up, they keep their heads down jump the snapcount and pray to God its a passing play
by DizzyMillenium on Sep 26, 2011 9:33 AM EDT up reply actions
wide 9 is OK
but they don’t have the Linebackers to play without edge control like that, and it showed.
You down wit JPP?
The Colts use it
but they change their lineup around a lot too. But Babin and Cole are not Freeny and Mathis (at least Babin’s not).
Cole’s too good of a run stopper to be used out there too
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If there's one player that just a monster on that team, its Trent Cole.
holy hell, he is beast.
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by BigBlueIntervention on Sep 26, 2011 9:34 AM EDT up reply actions
Loved the "chip" we gave him yesterday
Gotta keep the dude honest.
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by Larry Soprano on Sep 26, 2011 9:36 AM EDT up reply actions
yes, the OL scheme yesterday was excellent.
We were doubling Cole all day. McKenzie shut Babin down by himself for all but a one or two plays.
Day of redemption for Kareem as well.
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by BigBlueIntervention on Sep 26, 2011 9:37 AM EDT up reply actions
Wide 9 is decent however
You can’t play it the whole game,
by Late for Dinner on Sep 26, 2011 9:40 AM EDT up reply actions
yeah, its a great situational scheme.
oh well, not complaining.
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by BigBlueIntervention on Sep 26, 2011 9:41 AM EDT up reply actions
Precisely,
keep it for passing downs, play a normal defense on run downs and you might be alright.
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Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
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Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
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"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 26, 2011 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes
Kareem had a very nice comeback game
Build on it Kareem, build on it
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
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by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16
Completely caught him off guard
He thought he was going to be sprinting upfield all day.
Loved it.
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by Larry Soprano on Sep 26, 2011 9:59 AM EDT up reply actions
When Jacobs ran through him on his way to catching a pass?
Beautiful, that’s a MFing chip block right there.
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Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
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"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 26, 2011 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Not many could make that tackle on AB
I could not believe that was not a linebacker.
"Looks like I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue."
Or they slant so hard inside
it’s hard to change direction to go back outside
"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning
I would love it if that name was never spoken again.
Big effing deal if you line your DEs on the sidelines with their face in the dirt. Leave your running D exposed and hopefully a team is dumb enough to continue with 7-step drops. I mean come on. That’s getting cute not smart.
no love for my boy Cweb
as usual.
I thought Kiwi played well too.
and yeah, the Rolle call….meh….
TeamJPP
Cweb was dirty.
Maclin only burned us finding holes in our deep zones. The corners played lights out yesterday 23 included.
Win ugly.
by tito (eight and oh) on Sep 26, 2011 9:22 AM EDT up reply actions
contrary to popular belief
he’s also the leader of that secondary….
Not Rolle, not Grant, not TT….
may not be saying a whole lot but i also noticed Fewell leaving Cweb alone yesterday and shading help to Ross’s side pretty much more often than not.
TeamJPP
I dunno about leader. Rolle's my boy.
But not like it matters, cuz Cweb’s my boy too.
He was friggin’ awesome.
Maybe it would’ve been easier for Ed to give the entire team Kudos.
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by BigBlueIntervention on Sep 26, 2011 9:28 AM EDT up reply actions
Fair enough. I have no problem saying Cweb is the leader of that defense then.
They are both awesome in their own right.
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by BigBlueIntervention on Sep 26, 2011 9:32 AM EDT up reply actions
no one knows what goes on behind closed doors
but I just feel as though he does a lot of “coaching” on the field…
taking Ross aside, Grant aside….
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truth, I remember Webster talking to Ross during the St. Louis game.
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by BigBlueIntervention on Sep 26, 2011 9:35 AM EDT up reply actions
Honestly, this probably stems from the fact that
I am a huge Miami Hurricane fan and I hate LSU
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by BigBlueIntervention on Sep 26, 2011 9:35 AM EDT up reply actions
+1 Me too!
Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
SASH
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 26, 2011 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions
truthfully
If Kafka came in and completed a deep pass on Ross I would have flipped a b*tch fit
by DizzyMillenium on Sep 26, 2011 9:36 AM EDT up reply actions
haha
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by BigBlueIntervention on Sep 26, 2011 9:38 AM EDT up reply actions
They're ALL leeders!
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by BigBlueIntervention on Sep 26, 2011 9:46 AM EDT up reply actions
the only one that's not a leader is Eli
he didn’t restructure his contract remember
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
actually he did.
still not a leader. He blows.
Team Greg Jones
Team Jerry Reese
We may have the Dream Team in our division, but we're the ones to give you nightmares.
by BigBlueIntervention on Sep 26, 2011 9:51 AM EDT up reply actions
And he makes funny faces
no leader does that.
Your First Ever Pinstripe Bowl Champions- The Syracuse Orange
by bigbluethruandthru on Sep 26, 2011 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah!
Eli needs to be more serious, and a better leader… like Philip Rivers
I'm down with that then
I just remember when KP went down, the secondary took a big hit vocally (not like Rolle) and visually.
do you remember who gathered the DBs together
and rallied around KP after that injury?
i’ll give you a hint….he wear’s #23…and sucks
TeamJPP
+1
KP gets my vote. You also lead by example. KP loves to hit.
Why I love him,
He’s a big hitting safety, and he’s got ball skills, not the best hands, but he is a bit of a ball hawk.
Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
SASH
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 26, 2011 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions
CWEB was great, but Rolle has become their vocal leader
It’s good, a CB has to focus, they have the toughest single job out there. We want Rolle and KP to be the guys. That’s not a slight to CWEB
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
Football - It's Beyond an Addiction, It's a Way of Life.
by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16
just cuz he talks a lot
during the week don’t mean much….
you could see Cweb telling the Safeties what’s coming before they even snap the ball….
he’s lining up the secondary half the time on his own
TeamJPP
C web doesnt line up the secondary!!
Im sure he could but he simply communicating on exchanges and stuff….. he’s not lining them up, he doesnt even have that vantage point.
Webby is a leader tho, i do agree.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
Why I love Cweb,
not only is he our best corner, and yes, there is no debate. He also helps the entire secondary identify matchups, let’s them know what’s coming and coaches guys when they make a mistake. Cweb is a leader, he just doesn’t do it vocally in the media, it’s all through play and on field coaching.
Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
SASH
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 26, 2011 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions
he took care of Desean Jackson for the 2nd straight game we played them
made it look easy
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
ask and ye shall receive...
A certain member of Big Blue View constantly asks for players to ‘step up and make big plays.’
by Step up and make big plays on Sep 26, 2011 9:20 AM EDT reply actions 3 recs
LOL
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 26, 2011 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions
I lol'd when I saw that.
"Oh god help us all, the metlife blimps are coming, OMGWFTBBQFTW!!!!!!"
"Who needs a Bomar, when one can have a Perriloux"
What I saw and learned
Well, I was wrong about almost everything this weekend. That is a good thing because so many things went well.
KG can actually call a good game. Please do it again, consistency
Cruz is for real but I thought he was. Cruz made tough TDs, not ones from blown coverage. Give him all the credit he deserves. Now can we give JJ12 some space to develop too and stop the “cut him” talk?
Boley is for real, third really good game. JPP too but I think we all knew that.
TC did bring his team back from trash land the prior week. Can you do this more consistently please?
Aaron Ross can make plays, more consistency please?
Note the repeat of the word consistency.
Becks still sucks. Bonehead play for a veteran, stopped a series that may well have led to a score.
Now all of you that hate me for saying bad stuff about Becks, I’ll stop when A) You stop telling me how good he is, talking about his potential or B) He can tie together 2 or 3 good games. Other than that, deal with it.
I still say dump him, make room for some one that can actually learn routes, play the game and stay on the field. Ballard is the 1st string now.
I am still wondering about Tynes. Should we have kept Lloyd? Yeah, I know he missed a few long ones but Tynes cannot even kick them, or so the coaches think. His kickoffs are still pathetic. Lloyd did not kick out of the end zone but further than Tynes. Just thinkin’.
I did not see much of Jones, perhaps I missed him.
All the Giants should play like Mark Bavaro.
Tom Quinn Must Go!
It is equally worthless when people are always optimistic or always pessimistic. Either way I take their opinion with a pound of salt because I know they only have one setting. I post my own thoughts, not what either side wants to read.
by UnknownJintsFan on Sep 26, 2011 9:20 AM EDT reply actions
Can't really argue about Becks soo much
He needs to step up his game. The one thing you can say about him is this is his first game back from injury, so I guess we can continue to play the waiting game…but we’ve been doing that for quite some time already.
Win ugly.
by tito (eight and oh) on Sep 26, 2011 9:25 AM EDT up reply actions
If Ballard isn't hurt Becks is going to have a problem
Ballard has quietly established himself. His blocking is improving and he catches the shorties and rumbles. Now Bex will get used as a 4th WR (after Cruz) and as an H-back.
The dude just hasn’t seized his moment. And Ballard has.
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
Football - It's Beyond an Addiction, It's a Way of Life.
by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16
If Ballard keeps improving
He can give us the same things Boss did, he might end up being a decent TE
by Late for Dinner on Sep 26, 2011 9:46 AM EDT up reply actions
Something I knew but nice to be reaffirmed - JR most definitely knows what he's doing...
Williams and Boley – best LB play from the Giants in some time…
Cruz stepping up…
And one of the quieter moves of the off-season but one that I think seems to be working out pretty well – bringing Bernard back he looks like a different player. Absolutely destroyed the Eagles O-Line on one of the goal-line stops and got a nice hit on Vick down in the red zone too…
This.
Rocky has played like a man possessed all season.
Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
SASH
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 26, 2011 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions
we love to spew our BS
the bottom line we don’t know sh*t.
done saying anything good about Becky
I don’t think she has what it takes at this level.
It’s time for her to prove me wrong
You down wit JPP?
I'll say it again
and I’ll keep repeating myself.
I believe TC handcuffs KG in the game plan and play calling. Before the game is played teams know what they are going to do in certain situations like short yardage. I firmly believe TC nixes some of KG’s play suggestions. How can someone be that good at time and others that bad and predictable?
I'm in the same boat
Now all of you that hate me for saying bad stuff about Becks, I’ll stop when A) You stop telling me how good he is, talking about his potential or B) He can tie together 2 or 3 good games. Other than that, deal with it.
I was criticized last night for not embracing Beckum
Kudos to Aaron Ross!
I have been killing that guy. But his technique was more sound. If he uses sound fundamentals he can run with any WR in the NFL. He is that fast.
In his post game he mentioned fundamentals and that was the focus for the week. If he continues to play like this, with the addition of Prince in a couple weeks we can be that much better on D.
by brandon7 on Sep 26, 2011 9:24 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
What I love is getting production where it wasn't necessarily expected...
…namely Boley and Bernard, who have both been with us for two seasons and are thus known quantities. Both are playing at a consistently high level right now that is far exceeding our expectations based on the past two season.
by Step up and make big plays on Sep 26, 2011 9:24 AM EDT reply actions
Yes
I think we all passed up Bernard. I have pounded on him but he did well this week and I think he did some last week as well.
All the Giants should play like Mark Bavaro.
Tom Quinn Must Go!
It is equally worthless when people are always optimistic or always pessimistic. Either way I take their opinion with a pound of salt because I know they only have one setting. I post my own thoughts, not what either side wants to read.
by UnknownJintsFan on Sep 26, 2011 9:25 AM EDT up reply actions
+95
Rocky deserved a Kudos IMO. He was huge on the goal-line stand and I really enjoyed the way he Alforded the dog-killer. McCoy’s runs were off the side, not up the middle. Joseph and Canty had solid days too, heck, Kennedy flashed a couple times too.
Bernard is making up for his intense sucking
in previous years. Makes the contract sort of worth it
Self-praise is for losers. Be a winner. Stand for something. Always have class, and be humble.
-John Madden
Boley, Bernard and Canty
are all playing great this year and earning those contracts from JR.
"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning
its ironic
he was cut. Resigned for less. Is playing much better.
Funny how that works.
Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
SASH
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 26, 2011 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions
I made the same general comment higher in the tread...
but long before working my way down to read yours, so I was really just repeating what you’d already said, which I totally agree with and I’d have just given yours a +1 if I’d have seen it earlier.
So much to like in this game
More impressive even than the win itself, is the type of game this wound up being and they won anyway. Toward the end of the first half the eagles were dominating time of posession and it sure seemed like the defense was tiring out a bit, and the momentum was definitely starting to swing away from the Giants. For a team to fight uphill against that momentum, away from home, and not just win but win convincingly is just awesome. Credit has to go to the coaches and veteran players all around, lots of teams collapse in that situation.
Well, Cruz proved he can do it in a real game… pretty much exactly what we saw in that Jets preseason game so long ago. Has to be the most unlikely looking home run threat I can remember.
Eli was sharp all game… even the throws he missed didn’t miss by much. When he plays well the Giants can play with anybody.
Bradshaw has a hell of a stiff arm for a short guy. I forget which safety found the business end of it yesterday, but wow. You can see it coming a mile away and it still doesn’t matter. He was running angry all day.
Beckum has been taking route running lessons from Manningham and footwork lessons from Manning I guess. Ouch. I was hoping for him… plays like that aren’t going to help his case though.
your mom goes to college
I don't know about "driven to the turf"...
Allen was seven yards downfield from the stiff-arm before he bounced to a halt.
A tale of two different QBs
Vick looked confused. He forced balls. Made errant throws. And he pulled up when he should have ran. He got shook and over thank himself before he got knocked out. Crying over spilled milk makes him look even worse right now.
I can’t think of one ball Eli threw that he really should not have.
Eli, on the other hand, looked like he learned a thing or two. Like you said Ed, he didn’t force any throws. He did see some pressure at times, but was either able to make a play or smartly just take the sack. He got lucky on a couple tipped balls by his wideouts, but I guess the law of averages works in your favor sometimes.
Solid game by our QB.
"Winning is the most important thing in my life, after breathing. Breathing first, winning next."
I counted ONE bad throw by Eli. Thats it.
It was when he threw that duck off his back foot that landed at Jacobs’ feet.
Team Greg Jones
Team Jerry Reese
We may have the Dream Team in our division, but we're the ones to give you nightmares.
by BigBlueIntervention on Sep 26, 2011 9:33 AM EDT up reply actions
And that might have been on purpose
There was an Eagle in screen, he may have just said, I’m killing this play
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
Football - It's Beyond an Addiction, It's a Way of Life.
by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16
you might be right
Team Greg Jones
Team Jerry Reese
We may have the Dream Team in our division, but we're the ones to give you nightmares.
by BigBlueIntervention on Sep 26, 2011 9:38 AM EDT up reply actions
I think he does that more often than people think
Sees the play won’t get anything anyway just throw it in the ground. He doesn’t care about stats.
"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning
and less hits takin by your teammataes
Die hard Giants fan since wide Right! I was 5...
I'm down wit JPP
Yea you know me
I would like Eli to force a few more
Some of his sacks, he was too tentative. You need to take some risks. Cruz was in double coverage, look how that risk turned out.
Eli needs to learn to throw to the pass interference.
"Looks like I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue."
I think asking him to stop taking risks is a huge adjustment for him
It’s probably going to take time for him to find the right balance. Right now he is not making any costly mistakes.
If he does find that balance though…it’s gonna get really scary for opposing teams.
"Winning is the most important thing in my life, after breathing. Breathing first, winning next."
by Larry Soprano on Sep 26, 2011 9:45 AM EDT up reply actions
Disagreee 150%.
That was his main problem last year, forcing it under pressure instead of taking sacks. Now you want him to keep doing that? No way, man. If he did that he’d throw more picks and then everyone would be complaining about all the INTs. He took his major flaw from last year, worked on it, and self corrected. That’s what great Quarterbacks do.
Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
SASH
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 26, 2011 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed
Taking a sack is a lot less risky as well. You dont expose the ball like you do when throwing it away and you can brace for impact from the rusher
by DooshLaLoosh on Sep 26, 2011 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Let's weigh the risks
Ball at midfield 3rd and 8.
A. Take the sack punt from your own 40. Hope to pin the opposing team inside their 20.
B. Throw a risky pass. The opposing team takes over at midfield.
I’ll take option A almost every time. The only time is late in the game with the game on the line.
OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
please tell me you were being sarcastic!
Eli gets beat up for taking risks and throwing the ill-advised INT. Now you want to call him too tentative. Eli can’t win no matter what he does.
How does a QB throw to the pass interference? This isn’t basketball where the shooter jumps into the defender.
Here's how
You get 1-on-1 coverage deep, don’t overlead the WR. If it is just the CB, he is watching the WR, not the ball. If the ball is thrown short, you have more chance of the CB bumping you than catching it. Now if you get safety help, you throw the lead.
I said this last year. I’d like to see someone on the OL count Mississippis. On a set count in the 5-7 range, Eli has to throw. Put it to the sideline where only your WR can get it, or if everyone is motionless, throw it 5 yards in front of him. No sack, no INT.
The rules are different now. Simms could just throw the ball out of bounds from the pocket.
"Looks like I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue."
Honestly...
the second TD to Cruz PROBABLY shouldn’t have been thrown. Cruz is smaller than NA and was double covered. Cruz made an AMAZING play there.
we need to take chances sometimes
but yeah, that was a bad one.
"Looks like I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue."
Should have been Pass Interference
I’m glad he caught it.. but he should have also drawn the flag.
The refs missed a good game yesterday.
by ross_stephen on Sep 26, 2011 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions
and or a face mask penalty too
Cruz got molested and still made the catch, huge play by him.
by Late for Dinner on Sep 26, 2011 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions
Both. PI on Nnamdi and facemask on the safety
"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning
You're probably right.
That was most likely a throw that Eli shouldn’t have tried. A pick there could have given them the game back. BUT he obviously is starting to have some trust in Cruz, who did a great job validating and rewarding that trust. The result was an awesome game-clinching TD, so instead of killing Eli and Cruz, we get to celebrate their greatness.
"Stats are for losers, so you keep looking at stats, and we’ll keep looking at wins." -Raheem Morris
by BleedBigBlue on Sep 26, 2011 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions
OH FOR SURE!
I’m not killing Eli at all for it… it worked out, but those are the throws in the past that haven’t worked out for him.
It was pass interference and face mask on that play,
good chuck by Eli, saw the WR was in front of the defenders, figured it will either be caught, knocked down, or we’ll get a PI. Sometimes you’ve got to give it a try. And the difference between that throw and some others was that he wasn’t under pressure, he was able to step into that throw, and even though it was into coverage, it was a dart and a strike, not a lob throw while being pressured. That’s the difference right there.
Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
SASH
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 26, 2011 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions
fans also forget
when your throwing the ball 50 yards downfield it gives defenders time to break on the ball. There’s not always going to be lots of seperation by time the ball gets there.
Right, and in that case, with the PI rules being so touchy,
you try to throw the ball to a spot and see if your Wr can make a play or if your Wr gets bumped into.
Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
SASH
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 26, 2011 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions
That's what I was trying to say above
The rules are in the offense’s favor. Use them in certain situations.
"Looks like I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue."
Yea,
you even here a lot of the former coaches on ESPN and NFL Network say sometimes you have to throw it up for your Wr, see if he can’t make a play or get the flag.
Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
SASH
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 26, 2011 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions
certain situations
then I agree. But If Eli has a defender in his face I prefer Eli falls to the ground then just chuck up an ill-advised pass. We’ve seen that too many times with disastrous results.
At there 35-40 yard line, it's acceptable
deep in your own territory, it is not.
Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
SASH
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 26, 2011 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions
DEOSSIE
There should be love for drawing Philly offsides.
"Looks like I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue."
Oh yeah, loved the squeeze.
"Winning is the most important thing in my life, after breathing. Breathing first, winning next."
by Larry Soprano on Sep 26, 2011 9:34 AM EDT up reply actions
That play was amazing.
Nearly brought a tear to the former center in me.
Now, kids, being eaten by a crocodile is just like going to sleep; in giant blender.
That play made me love the Giants
that much more… insult to injury when you are fu**ing with their minds…
"Oh god help us all, the metlife blimps are coming, OMGWFTBBQFTW!!!!!!"
"Who needs a Bomar, when one can have a Perriloux"
HOF long snapper
Self-praise is for losers. Be a winner. Stand for something. Always have class, and be humble.
-John Madden
I'm sure.
they’ll start putting long snappers in the hall right after kickers and offensive linemen.
"Stats are for losers, so you keep looking at stats, and we’ll keep looking at wins." -Raheem Morris
by BleedBigBlue on Sep 26, 2011 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions
There are a multitude of O-lineman in the HOF.
Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
SASH
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 26, 2011 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Not as many as deserve it IMO
but that’s just the way it goes.
"Stats are for losers, so you keep looking at stats, and we’ll keep looking at wins." -Raheem Morris
by BleedBigBlue on Sep 26, 2011 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Thought CWeb and Kiwi played well enough for kudos too
Ilya Kovalchuk is good at hockey
by 3 already on Sep 26, 2011 9:32 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
There is no more "kiwi is lost at LB talk"
I saw him a 4 positions yesterday, he does everything well.
"Looks like I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue."
He actually looked like a LBzzz yesterday...
Good game all around. Surprised to see Tolly at DT so much and Kennedy looked like a force in there as well. Another under the radar signing by JR.
Now in section 133.
by Last year in Sec 127 on Sep 26, 2011 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions
saying Cweb played well enough is such an understatment too
what he give DJax? one come back catch? the rest of those catches were on the other DBs or just the zone
TeamJPP
Desean only had 2 catches for 30 yards. ridiculous.
Team Greg Jones
Team Jerry Reese
We may have the Dream Team in our division, but we're the ones to give you nightmares.
by BigBlueIntervention on Sep 26, 2011 9:46 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
He earned his paycheck
"Winning is the most important thing in my life, after breathing. Breathing first, winning next."
by Larry Soprano on Sep 26, 2011 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
rec'd
Team Greg Jones
Team Jerry Reese
We may have the Dream Team in our division, but we're the ones to give you nightmares.
by BigBlueIntervention on Sep 26, 2011 9:52 AM EDT up reply actions
so what you're saying...
is that Jackson continues his amazing YPC.
>_>
Good to see the press on.
Now in section 133.
by Last year in Sec 127 on Sep 26, 2011 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions
You know you had a bad week when Tony Romo is considered tougher than you.
Team Greg Jones
Team Jerry Reese
We may have the Dream Team in our division, but we're the ones to give you nightmares.
by BigBlueIntervention on Sep 26, 2011 9:36 AM EDT up reply actions 11 recs
Rec'ty rec'd
"Winning is the most important thing in my life, after breathing. Breathing first, winning next."
by Larry Soprano on Sep 26, 2011 9:38 AM EDT up reply actions
bwa hahahahahahahahahahahaha
excellent
Now, kids, being eaten by a crocodile is just like going to sleep; in giant blender.
LOL
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 26, 2011 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions
I do believe I remember
somebody by the name of Raptor22 predicting that Vick wouldn’t make it past week 3
I hear he’s incredibly handsome as well.
respect where respect is due
well played, sir.
Team Greg Jones
Team Jerry Reese
We may have the Dream Team in our division, but we're the ones to give you nightmares.
by BigBlueIntervention on Sep 26, 2011 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions
Nicely done, glad you were right.
Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
SASH
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 26, 2011 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions
I also said they should not play him
It was a dumb risk over ego.
I am sure his head was rattled a few times, took some big hits.
All the Giants should play like Mark Bavaro.
Tom Quinn Must Go!
It is equally worthless when people are always optimistic or always pessimistic. Either way I take their opinion with a pound of salt because I know they only have one setting. I post my own thoughts, not what either side wants to read.
by UnknownJintsFan on Sep 26, 2011 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Fewell took a big risk yesterday
Very little blitzing. Yet the results worked. No TD throws. No big plays. It’s hard to watch, but I have to admit it worked.
"Looks like I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue."
He did blitz
But more important, no 3 man rush
He mixed his D well. Let the DBs mix it up, challenged AR to run to win. I especially like the half time adjustments.
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
Football - It's Beyond an Addiction, It's a Way of Life.
by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16
Iirc
there was one 3 man rush, but we got a sack off of it anyways
Self-praise is for losers. Be a winner. Stand for something. Always have class, and be humble.
-John Madden
Apparently
Vick is down with JPP
He’s just less happy about it than we are (b^.^)b
Had to watch that play 3 times
To see how JPP got up off the ground to blast Vick
by hopeforthefuture3 on Sep 26, 2011 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions
re: blitzing
While Spagnuolo was something of a blitz-scheme genius, this team has been built and predicated on the idea of 4 BEASTS on the DL who will get pressure without support from LBs or DBs.
Yes, obviously we blitz at times. You have to. Sometimes you send the house. But from the team-building level, we are built to get 4-man pressure. That’s why we have, post-strahan, a line including Tuck, Osi, signed Canty, signed Bernard, Drafted Anvil, drafted Austin, Drafted JPP.
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by Simms-McConkey on Sep 26, 2011 9:45 AM EDT up reply actions
I think Fewel deserves props for scheming his DL
They attacked the Eagles G’s all game Vick didn’t have the spacing he needs, it’s why he kept getting hit
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
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by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16
I didn't appreciate his scheme till about the 4th qtr
He really didn’t blitz a lot either, but he shut down the Eagles big play’s, he did a heck of a job.
by Late for Dinner on Sep 26, 2011 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions
Kiwi was unsung cause he did the dirty work
After half, he changed his run D
Instead of stringing plays out, he penetrated and forced McCoy to make his first cut early. Then Williams, JPP and others cleaned up. He didn’t get many tackles, but he played that power grueling game that you must have to control a RB like McCoy
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
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by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16
Dont tell that to Dan Graziano
It’s a glaring weakness apparently. I even seem to remember early in the preseason there was an argument as to who’s LBzz were more functional, ours or philly. I think we have an answer!!
by DizzyMillenium on Sep 26, 2011 9:45 AM EDT up reply actions
Graziano would rather get into it with commenters
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
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by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16
Cold day in hell when we have absolutely no bad things to say about the LBzez.
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by BigBlueIntervention on Sep 26, 2011 9:42 AM EDT reply actions
I dont know about you guys
But I have to watch the game again, I seriously couldn’t enjoy the win thinking they were going to blow the game, that is how crazy this team makes me. But solid win, beside for Mccoy kinda running more than I would like. Good to see Cruz step up.
I saw it again last night.
Dad was flying in so he missed the game and wanted to watch it. The LBs were balling.
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by BigBlueIntervention on Sep 26, 2011 9:47 AM EDT up reply actions
Big ups to Ed for a most accurate K&WW edition.
Extra Kudos:
AB for one of the most vicious stiff arm moments in the history of the franchise.
BJ for the nice catch leading to the teams first TD. I often complain about his power but dude has some good hands.
AR for putting my doubts about him to rest (at least for the moment) two interceptions and good control of DJ.
CC for his hit that put Vick out the game. I stressed keeping the Eagles offense off the field but i’ll settle for vick.
JPP for the past three games. This guy is greedy for sacks and tackles. Feed em. (you still my guy though Osi)
VC with the proper grooming this guy can be a star.
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by LoNJDTechnology on Sep 26, 2011 9:43 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
We need to throw to Jacobs more
Just because it is unexpected. There is a lot of big play potential there.
BTW, JimmyK put up a post at BGN about how we burned them on the same exact play last year. It’s not going over well. Casey Matthew the hero is going to be floating down the Delaware in a body bag.
"Looks like I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue."
If we threw to him more...
…then it wouldn’t, uh, be unexpected
by hopeforthefuture3 on Sep 26, 2011 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Also...since i'm being very honest and gave Killdrive his props yesterday
the Kid Pascoe showed up yesterday as well…..played what was IMO his best game of the year.
TeamJPP
back and forth
He blows someone out, then misses. More positives than negatives yesterday, though.
"Looks like I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue."
How about a Kudo for double agent Smith
The first TO was classic Smith, can’t catch the ball clean and pops it up for and INT, he does at least 3 of those per season.
by Late for Dinner on Sep 26, 2011 9:44 AM EDT reply actions
maybe we passed the virus onto them
"Looks like I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue."
I thought for sure Cruz' tipped drill was going to be a pick-6
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by Larry Soprano on Sep 26, 2011 9:50 AM EDT up reply actions
me too..
but remember that “luck factor” they were talking about this offseason… Manning was the unluckiest QB in the league last year… not the most tipped passes, but the most tipped passes that became ints…
Vick last year was one of the luckiest, along with Freeman…. Bout time, something went our way.
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Law of averages!
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what a great bit of irony that was
SS did that a few times to thwe gents, now after talking all that shit on his old team, the first time he touches the ball, he pulls a “Steve Smith” and tips it to the defense. Thanks Steve! ya douche
by Plaxico Burress on Sep 26, 2011 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions
JPP
Has anyone mentioned what happens to JPP when Osi returns ? Theres no way he goes back to the bench ? And Im pretty sure Osi is not willing to be a situational pass rusher. Any way to get them both on the field ?
I been saying it for months now
you let Osi situationally pass rush
JPP too good vs. the run not to start him….and Osi better get used to playing both sides too b/c he ain’t always displacing JPP.
TeamJPP
Yeah...
what’s going to happen when Osi returns?? Do they sit JPP!! Not too sure of it now, he is playing at a high level.
by oldschoolblue64 on Sep 26, 2011 9:53 AM EDT up reply actions
Osi will be butt hurt if he doesn't get the starting gig.
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by BigBlueIntervention on Sep 26, 2011 9:55 AM EDT up reply actions
Well, you know what they say in the old country...
"Winning is the most important thing in my life, after breathing. Breathing first, winning next."
by Larry Soprano on Sep 26, 2011 9:55 AM EDT up reply actions
Use JPP at both ends
Give em all plenty of snaps
But Tuck must be preserved, can’t let him get ground down
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
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by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
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by trueblue63 on Sep 26, 2011 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
We hava a winar!
JPP can play both ends, so why not just set up a rotation between him, Tuck, and Osi?
Keeps them all fresh, and offenses guessing.
this
3 DEs keeps them fresh, plus Tuck can go inside on 3rd down
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 26, 2011 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions
JPP can go inside too...
Gonna be lethal with him, Osi, and Tuck. In the mix with Canty and Bernard playing like crazed dogs. Can’t Wait!!!!!!
by bdasilva7785 on Sep 26, 2011 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Keep JPP
Osi is a one dimensional pass rushing DE. I can’t count how many times I saw JPP fighting through triple teams….and winning! That kid is the DE version of Suh
by DizzyMillenium on Sep 26, 2011 9:55 AM EDT up reply actions
Tuck had another stinger, Osi is going to play a lot
JPP is a starter now Osi is the guy coming in off the bench.
by Late for Dinner on Sep 26, 2011 9:50 AM EDT up reply actions
The rotation of 3 DEs is key.
You can’t expect a guy to be himself playing every defensive snap all game.
They should play interchangably. Since Osi’s strength is pass rush and he’s sort of 1-dimensional, he may spell either guy in 3rd-and long. But his presence will allow both Tuck and JPP to be fresher in 4th quarters.
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by Simms-McConkey on Sep 26, 2011 9:52 AM EDT up reply actions
JPP or Tuck could move inside as well
Let’s not forget that.
Win ugly.
by tito (eight and oh) on Sep 26, 2011 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions
+ 90
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
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by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16
Tolly was moving inside an out too
So glad we brought him back he has been a blessing so far
by Late for Dinner on Sep 26, 2011 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions
He's a staple.
Every year someone thinks he’s going to get cut, and every year I have to remind everyone he’s not going anywhere.
Win ugly.
by tito (eight and oh) on Sep 26, 2011 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions
It happens every year though...
So you’re not alone.
Just remember that next year, you can’t underestimate the value of solid role-playing vets who perform on ST’s.
Win ugly.
by tito (eight and oh) on Sep 26, 2011 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions
I hope Osi realizes this and perhaps
Would embrace this concept? That trio would be devasting later in the game. :D
I think Osi will be fine
He knows he will be on the field a lot, seems he accepted his fate and knows his teamates backed him during his bizare contract situation. On top of that Tuck’s neck situation is a little worisome, he said he was playing with numbness in his arms, Osi is going to be called on a lot.
by Late for Dinner on Sep 26, 2011 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions
Called on??
Ohhh you think he wont be starting??? well get your angry proof keyboard ready cause he will be our stating RE as soon as he is healthy. What JPP is doing will not affect that one bit.
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Not so sure about that
JPP is having a breakout season and on top of that he plays the run better already, One way or the other I think we both can agree Osi will have an impact on our season at some point weather he starts or not, it’s certainly not a burden adding a player with his skills to our lineup.
by Late for Dinner on Sep 26, 2011 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions
Certainly
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But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
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Nothing happens to JPP or Tuck,
they’re too good to sit for Osi. Tolly will get fewer rotation reps and maybe Canty as well if they move JPP inside on 3rd downs.
Too good for Osi to sit??
Last i checked he has lead in sacks every year he’s played, thats what a RE is tasked with, he does it better than the other two, they are just way better all around.
The fact that JPP and Tuck can play multiple positions is exactly why Osi will start at RE…..JPP knows this already and he will be all up and down the line not to mention standing up.
Bringing in Osi for 3rd downs will only neutralize him…… he needs the downs before to set up the tackle….JPP doesnt, Osi would only be coming in to be chipped or doubled if he doesnt start.
We’ve seen this before with Kiwi……when he gets back he will assume his starting spot. Oh and starting doesnt mean much to JPP, he is so versatile that it doesnt matter now if Osi doesnt start that all but kills his talent because he only plays one spot and one spot only.
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We will have to agree to disagree
JPP is a wildcard, true, but I don’t see how you can just not start him.
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by njsoldier1978 on Sep 26, 2011 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions
Don't get hung up on "Starting"
It really doesn’t matter who “starts”, if they all get the same number of snaps. Also, its not necessarily a zero-sum game. You can move Tuck and JPP around to get all 3 on the field… 5 if you want to count Tolly and Kiwi.
I love STILL having this problem
evil grin
I think Osi has to see how this helps him
coming in with his speed after JPP, he should get some nice numbers
It’s like facing a fireballer after a knuckle ball pitcher
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
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by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16
Naw Osi is not a one down pass rusher
He becomes even more predictable than is already is…….aslo with his hip fixed i think he plays the run alot better than before.
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But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
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so
Osi plays 3 downs. Gets abused against the run in order to protect him in pass rushing situations so he’s not predictable.
That makes ZERO sense. There’s no predictability in passing situations. It’s either 2nd and long or 3rd and 4 yards or more. Are we supposed to disguise our pass rush situation in passing downs? I’m pretty sure all offense were aware that Charles Haley was in the game for one reason. Rush the QB.
Well he doesnt get abused
That was a myth….he doesnt play it nearly as well as JPP but dont act like he cant. I also said with the hip fixed you will see a more willing run stopper….lets not act like he has never been good at the run.
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JPP
is a 3 down DE. Osi is a pass rushing specialist. One dimensional.
“Starting” is a figure of speech. We know what’s implied.
Osi isnt a 3 down end??
well what has he been doing for 8 years, you think he has been a complete liabiitliy on the right side against the run his whole career or did you see a steady decline from a guy who hates to go under the knife and let his minor injuries grow and get the best of him??
Which one?? a healthy Osi is the starter at RE….. this will not hurt JPP, you will see him a great deal of the time just in more than one spot. That my friend can only help him terrorize the opposing offense.
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But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
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He probably will start at 3 tech or something but not RE
in order to have our best production…all 3 have to see the field alot together and that only happens if Osi starts….JPP’s versatility allows Osi to start without there being a big argument…..Osi starting also makes it impossible to double JPP.
Hey but you have a very valid point i just know how we operate.
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But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
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Best case scenario perhaps
After Osi comes back, JPP could spell Tuck. It would allow Tuck a breather and Tuck is having issues with the neck stingers afterall. I suppose we’re in a situation that is more like a luxury. They can all play, but to what degree? It doesn’t matter, they can all get to the QB!
Well what I'd do
Is say: Osi, we’re going to ease you in. We don’t want you to re-aggravate your injury, so we’ll play you on pass rushing downs and maybe some others.
And then hopefully Osi realizes JPP is much better than him /wishful thinking
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-John Madden
LOL
You think that will work?? knowing Osi as good as we all do!!
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
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Tuck may need to sit with his neck injury
by hopeforthefuture3 on Sep 26, 2011 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions
I think he's alright,
A stinger really sucks, but I don’t think he has neck issues.
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by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 26, 2011 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Tuck said he played yesterday with numbness in his arms
You know how the Giants are with injuries, a guy thinks he hurt his calf next thing you know his ACL is torn. With a neck injury one week he is playing the next he is gone for the season, let’s keep our fingers crossed it’s nothing serious
by Late for Dinner on Sep 26, 2011 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Most definitely. Couldn't agree more.
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by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 26, 2011 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Seriously, does this really exist in any playbook?
Beckum ran a one-yard route
I was horrified when i saw him do that. WTF!
Jets run that all the time
All the time. Really. It is one of their biggest problems for years with Schotty Jr.
"Looks like I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue."
You can tell by Eli's face
He avoids calling guys out, but he looks like he’s going to vomit
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
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by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
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me and free were just discussing this
sometimes the play call is designed to be short of the stick and just have the guy make a play.
that play call was designed to pick up the damn 1st down…Becks undercut it than spazzed
TeamJPP
Becks spazzes everytime he get's an opportunity
I am still hoping he proves me wrong, but I have never seen him do anything in three years that gives me hope he will turn into somthing.
by Late for Dinner on Sep 26, 2011 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions
Ive seen Beckum make some nice catches BUT
That play was ridiculous. He trapped on the turf, on 4th down, with no one in sight.
They may have driven off a S so he could catch and run, he may have run it wrong. But Eli’s face said it all, OMG what are you doing!!!
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
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by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
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I think wanted to vomit because he threw the ball behind him as well
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Giant LB'z SUCK!!? Mark Herzlich, Greg Jones,Williams,Paysinger...Maybe not..
If becks runs the right route.. the ball would have been in front of him.
simple mathematics…
Trust me, I got my B.S. in Math.
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Giant LB'z SUCK!!? Mark Herzlich, Greg Jones,Williams,Paysinger...Maybe not..
Yes he does
That’s what baffled me. It’s 4th down and you NEED, to atleast get to the required distance to give yourself a chance for the 1st. Any other down, you still have other options. Besides, YAC isn’t always a guarantee!
Told ya he was soft
because of the way he plays not due to his inuries…….he is just a soft player, going to the ground on 4th down like he got shot…smh lol
I think he can be an asset for sure but goodness dont put him in any tough situations because thats what will happen.
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But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
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No love for Fewell???
I thought it was a good call to use that “bunch” technique for the D-line having 3 bunched together over center and guard was a good call. Good aggressive play calling, I think he has found his groove with this game.
by oldschoolblue64 on Sep 26, 2011 9:52 AM EDT reply actions
just not on that one running play
need to make sure it is a pass first
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Anyone else find it hilarious that Iggs fans are calling for Cowher to replace Reid?
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Giants fans were doing it on Saturday
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
nothing wrong with that. Coughlin sux
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by BigBlueIntervention on Sep 26, 2011 9:54 AM EDT up reply actions
Bring back Handley
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
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by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16
We loose to the Cardinals and a lot of Giant fans will be talking about the Chin too.
by Late for Dinner on Sep 26, 2011 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions
How about the Crimson Chin?
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
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by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16
Damn already! HA HA
His career light is blinking!
by oldschoolblue64 on Sep 26, 2011 9:54 AM EDT up reply actions
I don't see a difference between him and marty schottenheimer
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by BigBlueIntervention on Sep 26, 2011 9:57 AM EDT up reply actions
There's a gleam men!
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by Larry Soprano on Sep 26, 2011 9:58 AM EDT up reply actions
lol
I used to get such a kick out of that.
by NYG86-90-07 on Sep 26, 2011 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions
"The pilot light is out..."
I think that one is Marty.
Now in section 133.
by Last year in Sec 127 on Sep 26, 2011 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions
Kudos to Reid
For going for it on the 4th down. Again. He never learns.
"Looks like I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue."
Actually McCoy tried to cut back when he should have just followed his blockers
That was more McCoy’s fault for not going right into the whole, he is always trying to hit home runs
by Late for Dinner on Sep 26, 2011 9:58 AM EDT up reply actions
That kid is incredible
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But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
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Oh he is a damm good RB
I looked at that play a couple times and he swung for the fences with the cut back, if Boley don’t make that tackle he runs for some huge yardage. But if he follows his blockers he get’s the yard they needed.
by Late for Dinner on Sep 26, 2011 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions
Well that's what Shady does...
he’s a cut back RB. Brown is more of a straight forward runner. So to me the issue with Reid is the personnel package.
by eyerish9299 on Sep 26, 2011 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions
ironically
it was a missed 4th down attempt by us that started their 6 game streak. I hope this propels us into a streak.
Nobody wins the Superblow in September.
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so many years ago….memories
I don't know if the Eagles are using him wrong
I have not seen a lot of him, but he looks good but not great, teams can pass on him he is no Revis
by Late for Dinner on Sep 26, 2011 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions
Naw he's a beast
Just fitting in, thats all….. And he’s no Revis but no one is Revis!!!!……..NnAmdi is probably having to get use to being tested again thats all.
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But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
Made Prime Times on NFL network
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
Football - It's Beyond an Addiction, It's a Way of Life.
by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16
I give a kudo to S. Smith.
Thanks for the tip, bruh.
Also to nnamdi asomug-WHO? Thanks for the..WHIFF!
I agree with the willie for Rolle. I think Coughlin should sit him for a game. His preventable personal fouls could cost us a game if he doesn’t somehow learn and so far he hasn’t.
Mike Vick. Shut up. I mean if you want to complain, fine. But don’t cry and whine and include in your statements, “I’m not complaining, don’t twist it into that.” You’re complaining, you are. And trying to say you’re not when you are is not becoming of you.
It hasn’t come together for the Eagles. Teams onto how to play Vick, Reid back to form of mismanaging games, new D coordinator flopping and not getting Asomugwa up to speed or using him correctly to his skills, front office for overvaluing Asomugwa who does not tackle and is actually not a complete player, and for not properly fixing their LB deficiencies and giving too much responsibility to unproven Casey Matthews (by design, not injury necessity).
Yay Giants! The opposite of everything re: the Eagles! The Giants are purrrrfect!
by BigBlueDeadHead on Sep 26, 2011 10:01 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Sit him for a game???
Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat!!! lMAO
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
For real...
- is NOT sitting, and the coaches know it!
by oldschoolblue64 on Sep 26, 2011 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions
Williams
I was particularly impressed with Williams yesterday. And quite frankly it almost felt like the Eagles were too. I did not see him make any bad plays and he made unassisted stops on McCoy and Jackson at times. I know this was just me imagining it, but it almost felt like they were complimenting the rookie for making plays that on paper he should not have been able to do.
Him and JPP are stoppers.
Seems like if the ball carrier gets within arms reach they’re done.
Now in section 133.
by Last year in Sec 127 on Sep 26, 2011 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions
You down with JPP?
You down with JPP (Yeah you know me)
Who’s down with JPP (Every last homie)
You down with JPP (Yeah you know me)
Who’s down with JPP (All the homies)
Rolle i have no issues with at all
bout time a Giants player was fiesty and didnt tuck his tail and run……..i love that guy, he gives us the edge we lacked in the past.
KP is playing awesome, Calerk Kent is finally coming out the booth.
J.Williams, the fact that the eagles rarely use a FB and gave our nickle package plenty of snaps was great for the kid…he got to show his skills…..he can cover anything.
Ross…….my man!!!
JPP…When Osi gets back, Osi will be the starter Ed…. JPP will be moved all over which is what he prefers and him being at a different spot will give the opposing offense more fits than ever plus all the shifting will eventually expose all the missed holding calls on the kid.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
Yeah I can see him taking over for Boley next yr.
if that makes any sense.
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
Giant LB'z SUCK!!? Mark Herzlich, Greg Jones,Williams,Paysinger...Maybe not..
Year after that perhaps
I still think J will is a back up next year due to circumstance especially if Goff comes back.
Lets not forget Paysinger is the 2nd Wil backer…….Jacquian has just been so damn good in coverage that he has to be out there but i dont think he takes anyones spot next year, i think we will have the same 3 intended starters but our backups will be intense.
Its still early…..Jones, Paysinger and Herzlich could all come on in a big way also. I think these guys are all still backups next year tho….backups with alot of playingtime but none the less backups.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
It could be beneficial to let Boley walk next yr
with regard to his cap # . not sure but could be. Def have the pieces to replace him in place.
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
Giant LB'z SUCK!!? Mark Herzlich, Greg Jones,Williams,Paysinger...Maybe not..
only if we are 3 deep at the position
injuries happen
Some people think football is a matter of life and death. I don't like that attitude. I can assure them it is much more serious than that.
by njsoldier1978 on Sep 26, 2011 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions
I wouldnt say we have the pieces to replace him just yet
the facts show we have the pieces to compliment him right now…..if Boley keeps playing like this, letting him go would make no sense….J will looks so good because he is playing WITH Boley.
No one better for J Will to learn from besides Boley because they are the exact same type of backer except J will is like the futuristic version but he is still raw.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
could be
but in our current cap #, he could be considered expendable. I agree he is the glue of our backing core. Basically our Mike. It will depend on how much JW picks up this yr.
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
Giant LB'z SUCK!!? Mark Herzlich, Greg Jones,Williams,Paysinger...Maybe not..
How about some love for Rocky
I have to watch the game again but it looke like he was getting in Vick’s face a lot
by Late for Dinner on Sep 26, 2011 10:07 AM EDT reply actions
Of course
I told people he would be the starting DT this year….he is slowly taking alot of snaps from Anvil but i love both them…..i just know Rocky is the better player for right now.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
+1
Rocky played well. So did Canty and Boley is playing lights out. Seems like the FA Reese picked up our really starting to produce.
Why is Tom Quinn still here? I loves me some Coach Clawfin.
Well Boley not seeming like a beast before can be explained
He simply was always covering for something the other two LB’s werent doing,…… had Goff been playing now you would probably see an even better Boley, he is healthy and he seems to be able to just do his job now.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
Jimmy Kennedy had some disruption/penetration as well
Could turn out to be a good pickup by JR
by DooshLaLoosh on Sep 26, 2011 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions
I will give it up....
The dude has been playing better and better.
Have always thought he was a grossly overpaid fat guy, but I will say, he has never played better for us than recently, he has been making plays….
He makes up for Austin. Keep it up Rocky.
Gilbride
Deserves a huge kudos.
Exposed the Eagles weakness all day. Great game plan and execution KG.
You down wit JPP?
Kevin certainly brought his A game yesterday
I kill him a lot, but it’s mostly about the consistancy in his game calling. He is either great or he sucks with no in between. Yesterday Kevins was a master.
by Late for Dinner on Sep 26, 2011 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions
About time...let's hope it continues.
We had the large explosive plays that we have been lacking. KG deserves the Kudo!
by oldschoolblue64 on Sep 26, 2011 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions
Kudos
to JR. I’m loving JPP, JWill, and even Hynoski. This team has a ton of young talent.
JR won't get credit but
Making Kiwi and AB the priority and knowing we could overcome the loss of Boss and Smith and not overpaying for their services was a good move.
by Late for Dinner on Sep 26, 2011 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions
That wasnt his moves at all or his thinking
SS was his priority and so was Boss even more so than Kiwi, he just signed first…… they just moved on because of whatever reasons, be it his or theirs but to think this was his master plan is way off.
His approach to all of them was the same, some just left and some stayed.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
Breaking News
Peyton Manning will not play at all in 2011
Nobody wins the Superblow in September.
Talk is Cheap! Play the Game!
Was he supposed to?
They said he might just do redzone!!….. WTF kinda BS is that??, how bad are you if you have a pinch redzonze QB…smh
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
the original diagnosis was
he would miss about 2 months. But now he cant even practice till december so they arent gonna play him till next year.
Nobody wins the Superblow in September.
Talk is Cheap! Play the Game!
Nodoby thought he was coming back after the second surgery
the Colts left the door open if he could make it back but that was more wishful thinking. Hopefully he can play again, this might be the end for him.
by Late for Dinner on Sep 26, 2011 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions
He's proving to be this year's MVP
"Winning is the most important thing in my life, after breathing. Breathing first, winning next."
by Larry Soprano on Sep 26, 2011 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions
J Will
if not for the 4th pre season game against the Pats, he might not have made the roster…..what a travesty that would have been
Jerry's Draft
and UDFA haul this year is looking spectacular…..just wait till the Prince and Austin start contributing
I wish!
- hasn’t played
- out for the season
- hasn’t played
- hasn’t played
- no pick
- Jones – seems pretty good
- Williams – home run!
- Scott – we love him but he hasn’t played, either
by hopeforthefuture3 on Sep 26, 2011 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Prince – Injured
Austin – Injured
JJ – Young wideout with others stepping up
Jones – starting
Williams – home run!
Scott – again great young potential
You also forgot TMFS. He looks like hell be very effective in the role Deon Grant is playing now. Overall, pretty good haul.
UDFAs
Hynosorous (spelling?) – Effective starter
Herlizch – decent now, amazing if he gets back to old self
Paysinger – Great in preseason. My geuss is he follows cruz and steps it up next year
Beatty & Kiwi
how bout a little love for these guys…..Canty and Kennedy too
Kwillie for Weatherford...
Love the trash talk and enthusiasm but gotta get it done on the field man!!
I still feel better about having him back there
Dodge was an adventure every punt, that’s why he is chilling on the beach now.
by Late for Dinner on Sep 26, 2011 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions
Honestly
With what I’ve seen in our games and read about his history I am actually no more confident in Weatherford at this point. I keep waiting for the terrible shank ala yesterday.
by Midnight Blue on Sep 26, 2011 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Shanks happen here and there
However with Dodge you had to worry if he would first field the ball let alone kick it.
by Late for Dinner on Sep 26, 2011 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions
that god for skanks
there's nothing wrong with the occasional skank
He was told to kick out of bounds all day ( which was ridicules)
kinda hard to have a good game .
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
Giant LB'z SUCK!!? Mark Herzlich, Greg Jones,Williams,Paysinger...Maybe not..
Doesn't Account for a 13 yard shank though
by Cruz Control on Sep 26, 2011 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions
Punters dont practice kicking out of bounds all that much . Its a bit demoralizing
He still had a 41 .0 avg. and one on the 10 yrd.line
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
Giant LB'z SUCK!!? Mark Herzlich, Greg Jones,Williams,Paysinger...Maybe not..
That seems bizzare?
Punters dont practice kicking out of bounds all that much .
I say, give them a half of practice field, a sack of balls and kick away! ;)
Beatty
Gotta agree with “Cruz Control” here on Beatty. He did a pretty solid job handling the speed and power that the DE from the Eagles were throwing at him. He got beat a few times, but we didn’t really hear his name that much during game time. For an O-lineman, that’s not a bad thing at all.
Also, I totally agree that Kill-drive deserves some credit this week. I will refrain from calling him Kill-drive for the remainder of the week.
Ed, any reason why Greg Jones didn’t see the field much other than the fact that J. Williams has been very good thus far in the season? Was it just due to the game planning by Fewell and putting some faster LB’s out there and more DBs?
Exactly what you said in your last sentence.
you combat speed with speed. Jacquain is fast as hell. GJ53 is a thumper.
Team Greg Jones
Team Jerry Reese
We may have the Dream Team in our division, but we're the ones to give you nightmares.
by BigBlueIntervention on Sep 26, 2011 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions
Beatty got help but far less than Diehl last time
Made a huge difference
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
Football - It's Beyond an Addiction, It's a Way of Life.
by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16
"why Greg Jones didn’t see the field much"
he only comes on the field when the other team has a FB out there, you know the same treatment they gave Goff last year.
The Eagles dont really use a FB too much, they are a spread offense hence the all day J will sightings…..he starts in the Nickle and the Nickle plays the spread. J will didnt replace anybody, he simply was on the field due to the offense being ran.
You will see more of greg Jones next week but maybe not….depends on what Offense Arizona rolls out.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
Cruz day could have as easy gone the other way
How he made his first catch is beyond me. IT SEEMED AS IF HE TURNED TO LOOK up field a good second before the ball gets there . then we all remember when the drop actually happen.
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
Giant LB'z SUCK!!? Mark Herzlich, Greg Jones,Williams,Paysinger...Maybe not..
You Don't Like Cruz
cuz your boy is Barden
by Cruz Control on Sep 26, 2011 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions
Troy
is the one that predicted 8 TD’s for your boy
by Cruz Control on Sep 26, 2011 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions
this is the problem w/ some BBVers
they like someone so much that they start to dislike other players playing the same damn position.
© Ed’s hatred of Cweb b/c he’s a TT stan….
and the fact is, while Cruz showed out, the drop was pretty bad….
TeamJPP
I dislike no Giant
I do in fact think Barden will change the landscape of our O when he returns .. But Fact is Cruz needs to look in these passes.
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
Giant LB'z SUCK!!? Mark Herzlich, Greg Jones,Williams,Paysinger...Maybe not..
We Shall See about Barden
as for Cruz……wrong day to criticize
by Cruz Control on Sep 26, 2011 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions
just call it as i see it.
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
Giant LB'z SUCK!!? Mark Herzlich, Greg Jones,Williams,Paysinger...Maybe not..
Except for Barden
but wait, we never see him
by Cruz Control on Sep 26, 2011 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions
actually that's how ive drawn my conclusion
as limited as it may be. WR at 6-6 230 doesn’t hurt either.
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
Giant LB'z SUCK!!? Mark Herzlich, Greg Jones,Williams,Paysinger...Maybe not..
IF (Big if)
he can get on the field and make plays. It’s year 3 now and it’s yet to happen
by Cruz Control on Sep 26, 2011 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions
year 1 . rook 5th on depth chart.
year 2 . played well then hurt
year 3 . will sure to be looking u up come week , let say 10.
maybe your new sig name will be “1 Bad ass Barden” come then.
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
Giant LB'z SUCK!!? Mark Herzlich, Greg Jones,Williams,Paysinger...Maybe not..
year 2
exactly how many games did he play well? exactly how many catches did he have? exactly how many TD’s did he have?
Look me up in week 10 and if your boy is performing I will give him his due…..no prob
by Cruz Control on Sep 26, 2011 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions
In the words of Troy O
I go by what I see……haven’t seen much from Barden in all the time he’s been here.
by Cruz Control on Sep 26, 2011 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions
in all the time he’s been here
oxymoron ?
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
Giant LB'z SUCK!!? Mark Herzlich, Greg Jones,Williams,Paysinger...Maybe not..
Barden Stats
3 yrs
9 games played
6 total catches
80 total yards
3 first downs
Your whipping boy Cruz got 74 yds and a TD on one play and you criticize him for it
by Cruz Control on Sep 26, 2011 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions
We already have Manningham and his
mind boggling brain farts. Im just “critiquing” That “your boy” needs to not be looking up field (2 drops in 2 games because of it) because as much praise that hes getting today , Bashing he will be getting tomorrow.
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
Giant LB'z SUCK!!? Mark Herzlich, Greg Jones,Williams,Paysinger...Maybe not..
I get it
you’re coaching him up the Parcells way…..it can only make Victor a better player. Now all you have to do is coach up Barden…..a 6’6" 230 lb weapon would be awesome
by Cruz Control on Sep 26, 2011 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions
here's the problem
VC made 2 great plays yesterday. He also has 2 drops because he’s running before he catches the ball. He got away with it with his first TD. That doesn’t excuse VC from criticism and fixing this problem.
Regarding Barden. He falls into the same class as Beckum. He’s had his opportunities. It’s time to cash on the chances or move on.
Great camera work...
And I would like to request Kenny, Moose, and Goose for the rest of the Giant games on Fox.
Now in section 133.
by Last year in Sec 127 on Sep 26, 2011 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions
Moose has chaged his game around
he used to be nothing but a Giants hater every game he called. Either a higher up said something, or he realized himself, but he calls a great game now. Totally unbiased and provides some real nice analysis.
I hate to say it, but Troy Aikman and Daryl Johnston are becoming my 2 favorite play-by-play guys
by Plaxico Burress on Sep 26, 2011 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions
I noticed that too
He definitely took his eye off the ball, but some how caught it against his shoulder, anyway
by hopeforthefuture3 on Sep 26, 2011 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
He’s the best long snapper in the league. Maybe he can play Backup C?
@ 250lbs??
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
yeah that aint hap-nin
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
Giant LB'z SUCK!!? Mark Herzlich, Greg Jones,Williams,Paysinger...Maybe not..
I think we need a Wet Willie
for tackling. It did not make the bus trip.
I got a GIF for that!
by Fester McDougal on Sep 26, 2011 11:05 AM EDT reply actions
It got better in the second half.
Now in section 133.
by Last year in Sec 127 on Sep 26, 2011 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions
during the game
I’m screaming as much as the other fans about the tackling. The Eagle fans were also bitching about the tackling. But lots of credit has to go to McCoy and AB. Both make lots of guys miss.
The "are you ready for this" post
Is just atrocious. I really think its classless. i said so yesterday, but Iggles fans are saying its sarcasm and satire. A little too close to the vest for me to believe that. Like they’re all laughing at it saying “oh good one hehe”
After all the flack we got bout SS11 jumping ship, his facebook page, them signing Asoumgha, our classless fans. Are they really banning anyone who wears blue from one post? After the serious trolling I’ve witnessed on their end of the ball? It is disheartening to watch our rivals behave in such a way
There’s a difference between heartbroken and spiteful/vengeful. It’s a shame really
Team Juggernaut: Jacobs, Hynoski. No one is safe
they're eagles fans
this kind of thing shouldnt surprise anyone anymore.
by Plaxico Burress on Sep 26, 2011 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions
They aren't banning all the Giants fans
BBI has been posting all morning and has not been banned (yet). Just have to know how to play the game
by DooshLaLoosh on Sep 26, 2011 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions
cant be a dick
and they wont ban you. go in there and discuss the game, ok… rub it in.. banned
by Plaxico Burress on Sep 26, 2011 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions
i would just like to point out
that i told u all victor cruz has ball skills and playmaking ability that you just dont coach. period. and not only all of you, but all of my friends too. i literally got about 27 text messages from people because all i did for 2 years was tell people victor cruz is a beast and noone would believe me and just call me a dumb ass.
well, victor cruz balled out and made namndi look silly. HATE TO SAY I TOLD YOU SO
by The Blood of Eli on Sep 26, 2011 11:42 AM EDT reply actions
ZZZZZzzzzz
Its too early for all that. Yeah, its nice what Cruz did. But Crux almost played his way OFF this team with receivers going down left and right.
Facts probably are that Cruz might be a nice 3rd WR… and can make some plays when he is the benefactor of teams doubling Nicks and others.
That about what he is. I would not characterize him as a “beast” yet.
+1
He still had a pass bounce off his chest.
His first TD was a result of terrible tackling
His second TD was a great play as was the Eli overthrow in which he beat the coverage.
My hope at this point is he can be as productive as Hixon
Good point D
The kid had a good game, let’s not start sucking his package just yet.
by Late for Dinner on Sep 26, 2011 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Cruz was a beast...
…yesterday. If he does it again next week, then the week after, and the week after that… then we can start talking about how good this guy is. He had one terrific game. Cant take that away from him. But he has to do it again… then again… then again.
by Plaxico Burress on Sep 26, 2011 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Receivers
SS12 gone, Boss gone, Hixon out, Barden out, Manningham out, Nicks quiet, Beckum a DUD
TGFC………………….Thank God for Cruz
Who you tellin
We still need someone in the slot tho, i still say nicks because Cruz is clearly an outside receiver and damn good at it….. i wouldnmt trust HAM in the slot, depends on the strain he’s been hitting that week.
I would go with HAM and Cruz on the outside and move Nicks to the slot, i have never seen a WR more built for the slot than Nicks…too bad he’s built for the outside too….damn him and his well roundedness.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
nailed it with Nicks
all around a very good WR, I think he could be great in the slot
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 26, 2011 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Stokely
in another week or two, Stokely will have that inside slot down.
Its amazing how we are feast or famine at certain positions…
"Oh god help us all, the metlife blimps are coming, OMGWFTBBQFTW!!!!!!"
"Who needs a Bomar, when one can have a Perriloux"
While Stokley is good
Think about being a DB and seeing Nicks, MM and Cruz coming to the line. You can add Stokley too for the 4 WR sets.
This could be scarry good for all. of them.
All the Giants should play like Mark Bavaro.
Tom Quinn Must Go!
It is equally worthless when people are always optimistic or always pessimistic. Either way I take their opinion with a pound of salt because I know they only have one setting. I post my own thoughts, not what either side wants to read.
by UnknownJintsFan on Sep 26, 2011 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Gilbride
I know he has been getting killed, but he was brillant yesterday. Eli was confident and on target, no TO’s and the D was freaking NASTY.
Is JPP ok?
Die Eagles Die
Maybe Cruz should have been benched?
When you look at it the guy accounted for half of our passing yards by himself. I really do mean by himself when you look at the fact that the first big play he broke a tackle to make something out of nothing and the second TD catch was a ball that probably shouldn’t have been thrown but he beat the double coverage. The funny thing is without those two great individual efforts by Cruz folks might be in here bashing KG and Eli some more because we weren’t exactly regularly sustaining drives. We ran almost no plays from the red zone. That’s the nature of KG’s offense. It is dependent on the big plays. You are going to look good if you hit em and bad if you don’t. This worked in the past because Eli and Plax had a way of making sure those big plays happened. Maybe Cruz can step into that big play role? I like Nicks, but he still seems more possession than big play.
Vick didn’t seem right while he was playing. He’s never the best passer, but he seemed even more off. We did good to take advantage. I think we match up well defensively with Philly. We’ve got some speed on the defense and Vick doesn’t really have the ability to pick apart a zone. The philly route tree is pretty basic. Kafka was lobbing up gifts, we’ll take em. If you can flow fast and hard you can beat Vick and the Eagles, kind of college ball style. Forget technique just run and hit someone.
The run D was not so impressive. McCoy tallied up 128 yards and averaged over 5 yards per carry. I’m not as excited about JWill as some here are. He seems like a nickel backer only so far. He’s making tackles, but doing so several yards down field. The thing with our LB core is we’ve got some guys that are good nickel backers and some that are good against the run. What we lack is guys that can play both. Boley is the closest thing we have, and some teams would consider him a nickel backer only. If we have the opponent in a very predictable situation (3rd and long, goalline etc) our defense looks much better than when the offense has options. That’s probably a combo of being able to match personnel and less thinking for the young guys.
Tolly was impressive. I saw him line up at every single DL position and he was drawing double teams! A 250 something lb guy lining up at NT, drawing a double, and still pushing them back into the pocket, yeah I was impressed. He has been making his presence felt throughout this season. He may not be racking up the stats, but his efforts are making what JPP is doing possible. Speaking of JPP, I’m going to have to start giving him more credit. He still blows it on run responsibilities sometimes, but so far not as bad as Osi tends to.
If you recall
our top tackler last year was a CB… having a LB lead in tackles is a welcome relief.
Rolle and Phillips are leading the team in tackles
I get what you are driving at though. Basically the biggest thing JWill has done is be good enough to fill the spot that was previously Deon Grant’s in nickel situations. This is a big deal because using Rolle as the nickel corner means Grant has to stay back and they needed someone to play that nickle backer spot. JWill fits in as a Grant replacement pretty well because he is basically a safety/LB tweener at 6’3" 224 lbs, which is apparently something Fewell likes. I’m just not ready to sit here and say the LB situation is now fixed like some folks are ready to do. JWill isn’t a complete LB. Basically the team is trying to use Greg Jones and JWill to make one complete LB. That works as long as the opponent or the situation the opponent is in makes it easy to predict what you need. Like I said when playing the eagles just put some fast guys out there and you are good. Other teams will call for more thumpers. It is when we face balanced teams that we will have the big issues. No different that when Goff and Grant were being used to make one LB.
JWill
let’s not forget it was only his 3rd game with no off season work and little preseason games.
He needs more than time to be a complete LB
but I don’t think he was drafted with any intention that he would be. He is the S/LB hybrid type that Fewell wants for his nickel sub packages.
Williams
Made a very nice play holding Celek to a 3 yard reception. It’s been a long time since we had a linebacker who could actually stay with a tight end. He’s got a lot of learning to do, but there’s a reason he’s played his way past all the other young linebackers. He made nice plays in the running game too. And frankly most of his down field tackles are plays where he’s using his speed to cover up somebody else’s mess. I think he has a pretty goos chance to develop into more than just a nickel backer — but even if he doesn’t I think he may turn out to be a good one.
by Tucker Fredrickson on Sep 27, 2011 1:07 AM EDT up reply actions
6'3" 220 lbs
He’s a tweener, which is why he was drafted I’d bet. Fewell’s defense uses a S/LB hybrid type player in nickel situations to do things like cover the tight end. Deon Grant played this role last year, and if you remember he looked like our best LB in that spot as well. This player is going to have the opportunity to make a lot of tackles because they are the clean up player in Fewell’s scheme just like a safety might be in some schemes, but he’s not going to be blowing up a FB and making the first tackle. If he gets a tackle for a loss it’s most likely going to be a designed blitz where he gets a clean rush.
I’m not saying JWill is bad, just that he is not a complete LB, which is actually ok in a way. I don’t really like Fewell’s defensive schemes, but what we have here is actually a player that is very well suited to what Fewell wants to do. A round peg in a round hole, which is going to set the player up to be the most successful. Other teams didn’t rate JWill highly because they wanted a LB not a hybrid. The thing I’m going to give Reese credit on here is actually trying to get a player that fits what his coach wants. It was his second try at it as I believe Chad Jones was meant to play the same position in Fewell’s defense, but the car crash mucked that up.
Don't Blame Beckum
At my job as a manager – if I had a really important project that HAD to be done right, and I put some dope in charge of doing it that was habitually out sick, lazy, had lousy performance reviews and never really got things accomplished….
When it failed, my boss would fire ME for being a moron and putting that guy in charge of it in the first place.
The Beckum play was big, and the reason it flopped was the Coughlin and Co. put him in a spot that he should not have been expected to succeed in. Period. Just like Dodge in the Philly game last year, their philosophy is play the guy UNTIL he loses you the game – then replace him. Thats like the government, reactionary.
Beckum is not an NFL player, the only ones that don’t know that is Giants management.
And a few guys here too
All the Giants should play like Mark Bavaro.
Tom Quinn Must Go!
It is equally worthless when people are always optimistic or always pessimistic. Either way I take their opinion with a pound of salt because I know they only have one setting. I post my own thoughts, not what either side wants to read.
by UnknownJintsFan on Sep 26, 2011 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree Beckum looks like he is headed down the road to being a bust
But would you not agree that part of your job as a managere is to develop talent and give it every chance to succeed. I always say give a guy 3 complete seasons before you make a judgment on him, and Coughlin is giving the guy chances to succeed before he pulls the plug on him. C-Webb didn’t devlop into a player untill the playoffs of his third season, he looked like garbage before that. Sometimes all a guy needs to do is taste some success and he comes around.
by Late for Dinner on Sep 26, 2011 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions
+1. Ross is in that boat right now, he has tasted success in the past, and is starting to realize his full potential.
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by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 26, 2011 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Williams
The guy is a stud, his speed and sure tackling is immediately evident. He may turn out to be our best draft pick this year, especially after a couple of years on the NFL “program” where he bulks up a bit.
Vick got around him on that one scramble, as he would any LB, but you could see his speed and athleticism flashing. Forces the action, always around the ball.
I feel better about him than I ever did about Goff.
McCoy
How did he get so good all of a sudden?
I have to admit, he was scary to watch. Rolle and Grant had him dead on the corner in a couple of big spots and he basically just ran thru their tackles……
Goose might be right, he might be the best runner in football right now.
he always been good
didn’t understand why the announcers were acting like he got faster this year.
TeamJPP
Andy Reid is running the ball more this year
Andy would always go away from the run and start throwing the ball all over the field, weather the run was working or not. Looks like he is sticking with the run more and McCoy’s star is burning brighter because of it.
by Late for Dinner on Sep 26, 2011 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions
My Favorite Play
Was when Jacobs blasted Trent Cole off Beatties shoulder on that “chip” block….
I don’t think Cole knew where he was for a few minutes.
I like Bradshaw for different reasons, but Jacobs brings some serious blocking ability in the backfield…. He’s the only guy I ever saw who hurt James Harrison, and thats saying something.
jacobs might have more huge blocks
but bradshaw is much more consistant. I remember reading that he had the most blocks of all half backs and was one of the beast in keeping off pressures.
I found the article
http://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2011/06/17/2010-pass-blocking-efficiency-running-backs/
Both backs are good in their own unique way
Glad we got them.
by Late for Dinner on Sep 26, 2011 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Is that the play
where Beatty then knocked Cole’s ass to the ground and sat on him???
BTW, about Bear
There was a play yesterday when Bear was thrown out of the way by whomever was at the left end of the Eagles line.
He looked like a rag doll being tossed. Late in the game, near the Eagles end zone I think.
While Bear is a fan favorite, I think he is diminishing in management’s eyes. Only problem is, we don’t have much else. There is Ballard, for whom we all have hopes and Beckum. ’Nough said.
All the Giants should play like Mark Bavaro.
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by UnknownJintsFan on Sep 26, 2011 1:25 PM EDT reply actions
Agreed, Bear is diminishing a bit,
but they have nothing else, until Beckum proves he can block as a #2 Te, with Ballard being the primary blocking Te, they will continue to use Bear and hope for the best.
Btw, does anyone else feel like Steve Smith gift wrapping us one, gave the defense and the team a big boost early?
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by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 26, 2011 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions
i wouldn't say he dimished
just more like Giants fans have realized he’s not all they cracked him up to be.
TeamJPP
Hedgecock was so banged and battered
that Bear was an improvement when he came in at FB. Now that he is playing full time TE he is struggling. I think a lot of us were hoping that since he was serviceable when thrust into the FB role that he would be really good when he went back to his “natural” position. It hasn’t panned out like that.
he's worse than last year,
he’s regressed a bit.
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by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 26, 2011 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions
LOL yeah check his facebook page
Giant fans have been thanking him all day for that gift. I am starting to get the feeling he can’t come back here again
by Late for Dinner on Sep 26, 2011 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Eli was fantastic and gets my game ball
He played within himself and within the system. I’ll never understand why the Giants don’t simplify things all of the time. Granted Philly’s D is terrible, soft and poorley coached so it’ll rarley be this easy, but the quick slants and screens just to move the ball and get some rythm are so important to make 3rd downs managable, reduce mistakes, and milk the clock. We don’t have a good over the middle WR or TE instead of forcing Cruz or Hixon into that roll why not throw quick slants to the outside guys espcially Nicks who is the most polished of this crew. Good to see them adjust to the talent.
Eli’s best throw was the incompletion to Nicks in the endzone. He was doubled and Eli put that in the perfect spot, if Nicks had a step that would of been an amazing TD. Great great game for Eli. Even when the momentum shifted and Philly took the lead Eli, or Gillbride for that matter did not panic and go into run n shoot mode. They kept to the short passes and the run. Eli was cautious but still took a few shots and made a TD out of one of them.
+100, said the same thing last night. Agreed completely.
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Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
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SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 26, 2011 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Rolle gets all over the field
I was tellin my dad while we watched the game how rolle always seems to be near the ball or the tackle pile. Rolle backed me up by tackling or assisting on 5 straight plays in the late 2nd quarter i believe. I like the guy and as someone said earlier he plays whatever we ask him to, complaint free
by rza34 on Sep 26, 2011 1:41 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Re: Jacquian Williams
This kid is always around the football. So far, showing superior instincts for a rookie. Plus, has the athleticism and speed to get to the edge before the ball carrier so that he is always in position to make the tackle or at least funnel the player back to another defender. I am really impressed so far. Too bad he is a bit light to play middle linebacker. If he can put on 10-15 pounds and keep his quickness/speed como, this is a guy who could really be a quality starter real soon.
He's perfectly suited to play outside,
he’s got the speed to cover the flat and outside, Mlb, only has to cover the middle of the field, unless in man, and doesn’t need the sideline to sideline speed like an outside backer does. He’s better off at Olb.
Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
SASH
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 26, 2011 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Antrel Rolle
That was a bullshit penalty imo. Rolle played very well imo and him and Kenny are looking like quite a fearsome duo.
Die hard Giants fan since wide Right! I was 5...
I'm down wit JPP
Yea you know me
JPP IS A BEAST
Hes tied for first in sacks rights now. Might overtake him tonight but JPP is still in first with 4.5. Allen on the vikes also has 4.5. Not bad company.
by peterhad on Sep 26, 2011 5:43 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
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