'Friday Five' With Pat Traina
Time for our weekly 'Friday Five' with the fabulous editor of Inside Football, Pat Traina. It's Eagles week, I wonder if there is anything interesting to talk about. Follow the jump and find out.
Ed: What is your take on Aaron Ross? Do the Giants need to give Michael Coe or Brian Williams a full shot to see if one of them can do better?Pat: Well I believe we saw Michael Coe go in for Ross on Monday night only to get burned on a touchdown pass, so is he really the answer? I think what will happen is that Tom Coughlin will sit down with Ross and see if there isn't some sort of "coaching" (advising) he can't offer him. I really don't know what's going on with Ross - he never comes out to talk to the media, which is somewhat frustrating, as I'd love to hear what he has to say. But I do know that he needs to start playing better otherwise it's going to be a long, long afternoon on Sunday.
Ed: Ross is not the only problem in the Giants secondary. Why are there so many communication breakdowns? This is a veteran group.
Pat: I'd like to blame it on the lockout, but I know better than o do that. So I'll blame it on the injuries ... yeah that's it. Seriously, if you go back to last year, the one thing that Jerry Reese said in his season-ending presser is that he didn't think that the team had to be blown up. So what happened? The team has been blown up, although not completely by choice. The result? A lot more rough patches than initially anticipated.
Ed: I have been fairly impressed by rookie middle linebacker Greg Jones thus far. What is your assessment of Jones to date?
Pat: I think he's done very well against the run, but is still feeling his way around a bit in space. No question that he's going to evolve into a good one, but it should be remembered that he's a rookie and it's going to take a little time for him to really grow his sea legs.
Ed: Off the way they played in their first two games many people will give the Giants no chance Sunday against the Philadelphia Eagles. What is your blueprint for how the Giants can go into Philadelphia and come out with a victory?
Pat: Wow, where do I start? Keep the Eagles out of their nickel and dime packages, for starters. That means keep third downs manageable. Eliminate the mistakes such as turnovers and stupid penalties. Keep Vick and company off the field. And double-team Trent Cole.
Ed: What is your take on 'Flop-Gate?' I think we all know Deon Grant took a dive. Is the league reacting a little too harshly, or are they right?
Pat: If Deon Grant cheated - and I don't believe he did - then no, the league is not reacting too harshly. However, you know the old saying - innocent until proven guilty. On Wednesday Grant passionately defended himself and his toughness, saying he's never once faked anything and in fact he's played through some debilitating injuries his entire career. He also correctly pointed out that no one can crawl inside another person's body and tell for certain how someone feels and he sounded resentful that someone would even dare to suggest he would fake an injury.
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We need receivers, we only have one!
And we don’t have any pass catching tight ends. How the hell are we going to score?
Inconceivable
"That's mostly fans who say that kind of stuff and they really don't understand the process. We have good players on the team. We're not looking to go out and make every sexy splash that can be made. We make solid football decisions. That's been happening for a long time," Reese said
I don't think this word means what you think it means.....
LOL let’s see who gets the reference.
by sexyscottish on Sep 23, 2011 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions
One of my all time Faves.

"Stats are for losers, so you keep looking at stats, and we’ll keep looking at wins." -Raheem Morris
by BleedBigBlue on Sep 23, 2011 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions
Metlife stadium needs to be renamed to the Fire Swamp
I got a GIF for that!
by Fester McDougal on Sep 23, 2011 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions
only when the Jets are playing
"Stats are for losers, so you keep looking at stats, and we’ll keep looking at wins." -Raheem Morris
by BleedBigBlue on Sep 24, 2011 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions
david nelson? eric decker? denarius moore?
victor cruz? hey why not. we’ll find out sunday.
by The Blood of Eli on Sep 23, 2011 8:20 AM EDT up reply actions
welp
We are undermanned that’s no secret,but this is a div game ….we’ll be fine ! I think Ross needs to visit a shrink !
true Giants fans have a Love hate relationship with the team
by Mr.Williams on Sep 23, 2011 7:31 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Would love to believe
that there isa switch that gets flipped.
I like Aaron but he is a bigger mental midget that I……and let me tell you how much that says.
I think he'll improve over time
Don’t forget how little he’s played in 2 years. If Prince can get back on the field and Rolle moves to CF, that will help Ross as well.
Grant is not the threat to ball hawk that Rolle is. With Rolle back of Ross, QBs will be more careful going deep, it shrinks their window.
"That's mostly fans who say that kind of stuff and they really don't understand the process. We have good players on the team. We're not looking to go out and make every sexy splash that can be made. We make solid football decisions. That's been happening for a long time," Reese said
+26
I agree,Rolle even said his communication w/ the cb’s was improved ,but that was b4 TT went down….
true Giants fans have a Love hate relationship with the team
by Mr.Williams on Sep 23, 2011 8:09 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
thought about this the other day too
One of Ross’s biggest gaffe’s was when he let the receiver go in a zone coverage and there was no help around. Where the miscomunication is I don’t know. But it seems to be where his biggest concerns are.
But again hopefully time on the field with these guys will hopefully alieviate some of these problems and allow Ross to play rather than think about making the right reads.
You down wit JPP?
Hey Deon...
own it buddy, they got ya on candid camera.
Too big of a deal is being made out of it because it was in the national spotlight, this kinda crap goes on every week.
You down wit JPP?
They ought to do this with every WR flop
Every time they come up squawking about a hold, show the film
Then the NFL can start taking those draft picks away
"That's mostly fans who say that kind of stuff and they really don't understand the process. We have good players on the team. We're not looking to go out and make every sexy splash that can be made. We make solid football decisions. That's been happening for a long time," Reese said
+1
If you even look at Tom Brady’s knee the wrong way, he grabs it and goes down and then you get fined.
"Stats are for losers, so you keep looking at stats, and we’ll keep looking at wins." -Raheem Morris
by BleedBigBlue on Sep 23, 2011 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions
if Deon owned up to it, the Giants would be punished.
Team Greg Jones
Team Jerry Reese
by BigBlueIntervention on Sep 23, 2011 8:56 AM EDT up reply actions
Topics
I definitely think we can win this game this week. I think the Eagles are shaky in places and I think if we can somehow exploit those it will result in a win for us. We just need to execute better than they do.
Anyone who believes that Grant did not flop: I have a bridge I would like to sell you. In fact I find it someone insulting how insistant he is being and pretty much calling out anyone who questions it.
And I really think it is a terrible decision to have Ross return kicks this weekend. Remember how bad CC was? Now imagine CC also not being able to tackle. That’s what I’m afraid of us finding behind Ross if he gets hurt returning punts.
who then?
JJ? that’s about all we got.
Yes, I am a Giants fan. Now that we got that out of the way....
IMPEACH DOLAN!!!!
I will not - lose! -Jay Z-
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cjmulrain.....???
The gangs almost all here!
Well...
I think I said this in another thread, but at this point I’d be happy if we just had some guy back there who could fair catch a punt every time. Might not make people happy, but I’d rather miss whatever meager punt return yards that our ST can get and not give up a big play every time someone throws to whoever his replacement is at CB. Well, bigger plays anyway.
by Midnight Blue on Sep 23, 2011 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions
but you know
the minute a designated fair catch guy calls and catches one with literally no one within 15 yards hell will fall upon the heads of TC and TQ.
Yes, I am a Giants fan. Now that we got that out of the way....
IMPEACH DOLAN!!!!
I will not - lose! -Jay Z-
Missing BBVers:
Simms-McConkey - FOUND
Step Up and Make Big Plays - FOUND
Blue Gonz - FOUND
BOBBIBLUE - HE'S BAAACCKKK!!!
cjmulrain.....???
The gangs almost all here!
Da'rell Scott
If I am being negative please, don't let it fool you, I am an optimist at heart and I can prove it.
NYG 27 PHI 24
by tommy d. on Sep 23, 2011 12:37 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
has he ever returned punts in his college career?
i doubt it’s as easy as sending someone fast back there with no experience. he’s gotta make people miss in space, read the kick, his blocks, how close guys are compared to the ball landing in his hands, and the all important catch. that’s alot to grasp right away.
Yes, I am a Giants fan. Now that we got that out of the way....
IMPEACH DOLAN!!!!
I will not - lose! -Jay Z-
Marines say HUA; BBVer's say SUAMBP! say it with me - Suuaahmbp!!!!
I don't know.
Throwing shite against the wall. God forbid the Giants coaches might have seen the potential there with his speed and have been working him out there.
And he is a football player. Running back. Not some skinny-ass WR who is gonna drop the ball.
If I am being negative please, don't let it fool you, I am an optimist at heart and I can prove it.
NYG 27 PHI 24
not some skinny ass wr who is gonna drop the ball
hehe true that
Yes, I am a Giants fan. Now that we got that out of the way....
IMPEACH DOLAN!!!!
I will not - lose! -Jay Z-
Marines say HUA; BBVer's say SUAMBP! say it with me - Suuaahmbp!!!!
Da'rell Scott
If I am being negative please, don't let it fool you, I am an optimist at heart and I can prove it.
NYG 27 PHI 24
by tommy d. on Sep 23, 2011 12:37 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Keeping the Eagles off the Field
Is pretty much the only way I see a victory this week. And even if they do, I’m not exactly sure it won’t be because it just isn’t going to take the Eagles a long time to score each time they have the ball. (Sigh.)
I agree.
It has also been suggested that we have a shootout with the Eagles. Dawriter posted Eli’s passing stats against the Eagles in another post and I will admit they are impressive. However, with the issues that our passing game has had with the loss of key players, the introduction of new players, and sync issues that MM and Eli have been having; is this really a viable option?
Factology! Belief is ignorance.
by LoNJDTechnology on Sep 23, 2011 8:37 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
A long drive run game and turnovers are the only two ways to keep this Eagle offense off the field and I don’t think that the latter option will materialize too often.
Factology! Belief is ignorance.
by LoNJDTechnology on Sep 23, 2011 8:43 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
That should be the plan keep them off of the field.
Have to get that running game going, should start BJ then bring Ahmad in.
by oldschoolblue64 on Sep 23, 2011 9:38 AM EDT up reply actions
The Eagles will be able to move the ball.
There is no doubt about that.
The Giants need to do two things within this reality. One: Do not give up the 65 yard TD pass or the 40 yard TD run.
Two: Make them drive the length of the field. Once the Eagles get in the red zone, make them kick field goals.
If I am being negative please, don't let it fool you, I am an optimist at heart and I can prove it.
NYG 27 PHI 24
by tommy d. on Sep 23, 2011 12:42 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
This.
Our redzone defense has looked pretty good. If we can keep from giving up the huge plays, our chances of winning take a dramatic jump.
The only other big factor for me is turnovers. If we can go at least +2 in turnovers, I think we win it.
"Stats are for losers, so you keep looking at stats, and we’ll keep looking at wins." -Raheem Morris
by BleedBigBlue on Sep 23, 2011 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Turnovers.
Unfortunately, we have to say it every game. But in this game, I agree with you. Not only CAN’T we turn it over, but we have to turn them over to the tune of at least +2, like you said.
With all the guys we have missing, the Eagles are just a better football team than us right now. An awful lot will have to go right for us to win the game.
If I am being negative please, don't let it fool you, I am an optimist at heart and I can prove it.
NYG 27 PHI 24
Can't see us winning a shootout.....
Agree that our running game will be key.
by Fishhead202 on Sep 23, 2011 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions
Pressure up the middle
Our DT’s need to break through the weak middle of the Eagles OL, and our DE’s and OLB’s need to contain Vick in the pocket and not over pursue.Send safety’s on bltzes from the outside on occasion, but resist over blitzing. Be physical with their receivers.
Ballard, Hynoski, and AB need to catch a ton of passes.
Hold onto the ball at all costs, dive to the ground if you have to, take the sack, but don’t lose a turnover. Zero.
And pray that an additional 10 points come from somewhere unexpected.
I am a fan of Kevin Gilbride and I don't care what you say
by Spider Lockhart on Sep 23, 2011 8:19 AM EDT reply actions
i don't know
Vick doesn’t do well under pressure. as we’ve shown the league, the blueprint to success on Vick is pressure from his left side. so while we shouldn’t overbllitz, we def. need to bring the house alot. don’t let those receivers reach there stride on 5 and 7 step drops.
Yes, I am a Giants fan. Now that we got that out of the way....
IMPEACH DOLAN!!!!
I will not - lose! -Jay Z-
Missing BBVers:
Simms-McConkey - FOUND
Step Up and Make Big Plays - FOUND
Blue Gonz - FOUND
BOBBIBLUE - HE'S BAAACCKKK!!!
cjmulrain.....???
The gangs almost all here!
That is a good point, and true
But at least at the end of pre-season, Cleveland was doing it differently by blowing through the middle and hitting Vick hard on numerous plays. The center of their line was week enough that the DT’s were blowing through and getting at Vick before he could even finished his drop on numerous occassions. The middle of their line is really that bad this year. Last year that definitely would not have worked. This year, maybe we can collapse the pocket and control the edges fast enough that he cannot escape. Most times.
But certainly coming from his blind side has worked well in the past. Leaves us short a DB on coverage if it doesn’t work. Hate to see Justin Tuck trying to cover DeSean. Although he sure did look like a DB when he stopped that TD run a week or so ago.
I am a fan of Kevin Gilbride and I don't care what you say
by Spider Lockhart on Sep 23, 2011 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions
your idea sounds like a plan too
i think whatever Fuel comes up with, the main thing that needs to be stressed is discipline. gap discipline, assignment discipline. that’s why we lost in Dec., ppl became undisciplined. if you come up the middle or on his strong side, don’t over pursue, stay in your lane, trust that your teammate is doing the same, and make the tackle when you get your hands on him. sound theory right?
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IMPEACH DOLAN!!!!
I will not - lose! -Jay Z-
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Sound as sound gets.
Fundamentals man. Our team is pretty good with most of them. But we will need to be that and more to beat the Eagles this week. We may need to play a near perfect game. Play over our heads even.
If I am being negative please, don't let it fool you, I am an optimist at heart and I can prove it.
NYG 27 PHI 24
come on deon
that sucks that hes trying to defend himself like that. now hes a moron.
by The Blood of Eli on Sep 23, 2011 8:19 AM EDT reply actions
Depn can't come put and say he faked it.
If he admits that he was faking an injury then at the very least he is looking at a big fine for him and maybe the team. And maybe even a lost draft pick for the team.
We know he flopped but as long as he denies it the league can’t do anything about it, because they can’t prove it.
understood
but talking all that macho stuff about how hes never done this and that…. just quiet down deon
by The Blood of Eli on Sep 23, 2011 8:56 AM EDT up reply actions
Grant
and he sounded resentful that someone would even dare to suggest he would fake an injury.
Me thinks he doth protest too much
It was embarrassing to watch Perry Fewell struggle with his personal sense of integrity. He lost the struggle.
And by the way this is not a big deal. I think every team should be allowed one free flop per game.
The connotation of the word flop suggests; failure e.g.. “the play was a flop”. In this case the play was a success.
Flop also connotes a lack of sufficient sexual arousal to engorge a man’s penis. Thus, it flops.
and finally, the word flop connotes a type of 18th century man of the court who effects a certain kind of effeminate demeanor. A flop minus the L.
‘Expert’ – from the adjective *pert*, meaning ‘lively’ or ‘effective,’ and the prefix *ex-*, meaning ‘not.’
"saying you are right when you’re wrong only gives you the right to be wrong"
An optimist is a person that falls off the empire state building and after 50 floor says so far so good!
Free agent WR's
Should we at least workout a few guys? Or is Reese content with the younger talent we have to be able to play w/o mistakes. I Talent isnt the issue imo, its the lack of experience..which is the most important factor in a young player at the position of WR.
Clayton, Terrel..(ugh) Owens??
"they try to do what he do, and been where he's been, but they get folded in two.....he's the dude"
Moss
Moss, Randy. One each
I think he should come just so he gets the chance to collect all 32 jerseys.
‘Expert’ – from the adjective *pert*, meaning ‘lively’ or ‘effective,’ and the prefix *ex-*, meaning ‘not.’
"saying you are right when you’re wrong only gives you the right to be wrong"
An optimist is a person that falls off the empire state building and after 50 floor says so far so good!
ha
Id have a workout at least. All old wr’s welcome
"they try to do what he do, and been where he's been, but they get folded in two.....he's the dude"
hes gonna ask too much
remember we’re still dealing with a cap.
Yes, I am a Giants fan. Now that we got that out of the way....
IMPEACH DOLAN!!!!
I will not - lose! -Jay Z-
Missing BBVers:
Simms-McConkey - FOUND
Step Up and Make Big Plays - FOUND
Blue Gonz - FOUND
BOBBIBLUE - HE'S BAAACCKKK!!!
cjmulrain.....???
The gangs almost all here!
because we don't already have enough wide receivers
who drop passes right on the numbers
I am a fan of Kevin Gilbride and I don't care what you say
by Spider Lockhart on Sep 23, 2011 8:59 AM EDT up reply actions
yup
cause thats all TO has done throughout his career is drop passes. he never made any plays or anything. oh yeah and he looked real washed up for the bengals too didnt he…(sarcasm)
by The Blood of Eli on Sep 23, 2011 9:01 AM EDT up reply actions
Well he is as old as Kerry Collins
He has had a great career, but in terms of fit, I actually think that the Brandon Stokely type is what we need. Some sure hands and willingness to go across the middle. Stretching the field, I think we are okay.
I am a fan of Kevin Gilbride and I don't care what you say
by Spider Lockhart on Sep 23, 2011 9:06 AM EDT up reply actions
I think Brandon Stokley was it.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
Receivers
We worked out guys a week ago and signed Stokley. Giants know what’s available.
by Ed Valentine on Sep 23, 2011 9:16 AM EDT up reply actions
Did they work out
Phil McConkey, LOL!…Who filled Hixon’s spot on the roster?
"Beckum is Beckum, it's a hamstring".....Tommy Couglin
by Great Gatsby on Sep 23, 2011 9:22 AM EDT up reply actions
Well considering these were the guys that were inactive last week
Prince Amukamara, Travis Beckum, James Brewer, Jerrel Jernigan, Mitch Petrus, Da’Rel Scott, Osi Umenyiora
I’m guessing Beckum takes his spot and once they place Hixon on IR they probably promote someone from the PS to the active 53 to only have them be inactive each week.
"Winning is the most important thing in my life, after breathing. Breathing first, winning next."
by Larry Soprano on Sep 23, 2011 9:41 AM EDT up reply actions
Da'Rel Scott
Hey, we may need to take some high risk/high reward type action this weekend. Da’Rel, good time to make a name for yourself in fantasy football circles
I am a fan of Kevin Gilbride and I don't care what you say
by Spider Lockhart on Sep 23, 2011 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions
I really wanna see what this guy can do
Hope he gets the chance this week and delivers!
by Fishhead202 on Sep 23, 2011 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions
I don't know
why they don’t put in a few plays for the fastest guy on the team?
"Beckum is Beckum, it's a hamstring".....Tommy Couglin
by Great Gatsby on Sep 23, 2011 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions
When I say "roster"
that’s what I mean, active roster, as in part of the 53 man.
"Beckum is Beckum, it's a hamstring".....Tommy Couglin
by Great Gatsby on Sep 23, 2011 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions
Mike Clayton
Is gonna have a big year!
I got a GIF for that!
by Fester McDougal on Sep 23, 2011 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions
We're going to get torched
and Eli will have to keep up.
The OL needs to drive holes open nd Jacobs will have to go back to punishing people. I know they moved LB’s around so Matthews isn’t playing MLB so maybe we can take advantage of that.
A nasty hit on Vick wouldn’t hurt either. Clean – but obliterating
Please get Phil Simms in the Hall of Fame
Is Nicks supposed to be playing?
"If I can get you to think twice, I'm in your head."
-Brian Dawkins
"They just tried to do a criss-cross route or something. I just hid a little bit, saw the ball in the air and I do what I do - go get the ball."
-The President CB
Nnamdi, Asante, DRC; The Three Graces...charm, beauty, and creativity.
yeap
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by Rorschach44 on Sep 23, 2011 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions
Philly's run D is SO bad...
that this is gonna be the game where we ride AB, Jacobs, and maybe even Ware to the victory.
Ball security will be a must.
The Eagles defenders will be trying to force fumbles every chance they get. If out backs can hang on to the ball, I think we’ll be ok. I’m still a little worried about our run blocking. hopefully they put a lot of practice time into it this week.
"Stats are for losers, so you keep looking at stats, and we’ll keep looking at wins." -Raheem Morris
by BleedBigBlue on Sep 23, 2011 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions
My take on the Eagles:
Prevent the big play, limit them to field goals. We did well in the red last week, hopefully can do the same this week. Force their O to stay on the field longer, giving more chances for Vick to get hit
On O, establish the run. From the little I’ve seen, the Eagles’ run D isn’t great, and I feel like our run (especially Jacobs) is starting to get back on track. Don’t force throws!
By far the toughest game yet, but I haven’t written this one off :)
Clayton resigned
taking over the spot for Hixon.
Yes, I am a Giants fan. Now that we got that out of the way....
IMPEACH DOLAN!!!!
I will not - lose! -Jay Z-
Missing BBVers:
Simms-McConkey - FOUND
Step Up and Make Big Plays - FOUND
Blue Gonz - FOUND
BOBBIBLUE - HE'S BAAACCKKK!!!
cjmulrain.....???
The gangs almost all here!
Certainly no reason to jump up and down
I guess they are looking for anyone with a pulse and a low price tag at this point
I am a fan of Kevin Gilbride and I don't care what you say
by Spider Lockhart on Sep 23, 2011 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Come on, he is a sharp looking dud

I got a GIF for that!
by Fester McDougal on Sep 23, 2011 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions
yup
Yes, I am a Giants fan. Now that we got that out of the way....
IMPEACH DOLAN!!!!
I will not - lose! -Jay Z-
Missing BBVers:
Simms-McConkey - FOUND
Step Up and Make Big Plays - FOUND
Blue Gonz - FOUND
BOBBIBLUE - HE'S BAAACCKKK!!!
cjmulrain.....???
The gangs almost all here!
Her response to the 2nd question is nonsensical
She didn’t answer the question. She went on a tangent about Jerry Reese.
Team Ghost: Manningham, Sintim, Beckum, Barden, JPP, Anvil, Ross

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