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Spotlight On Aaron Ross

Aaron Ross. (Photo by Jim Rogash/Getty Images)

Like it or not, Aaron Ross will be a pivotal player for the New York Giants on Sunday against the Philadelphia Eagles -- and likely for the rest of the 2011 season. Ross is not only starting at cornerback for Terrell Thomas, but now with Domenik Hixon also out for the season coach Tom Coughlin said Wednesday that Ross will also return punts.

Really, what choice do the Giants have right now? Do you want to see Jerrel Jernigan make his NFL debut as a punt returner in Philly?

Star-divide

So, let's talk about Ross, the first-round pick in 2007 who has vastlyunder-performed his draft slot. We have been killing Ross for his performance in coverage the first two weeks. In two games he has been thrown at 15 times and surrendered 10 completions. Disturbingly, those 10 completions have totalled 237 yards, 23.7 per catch. St. Louis's plan was pretty obvious. Need a completion? Throw at whoever Ross was covering.It eventually drove the Giants to remove him from the game -- until they saw that Michael Coe wasn't any better.

Thing is, Ross has not been all bad in coverage. He has three passes defensed in those 15 throws, which is pretty good.

To me, he seems to be either feast or famine in coverage. He has the speed and the physical ability to blanket guys, yet there are some plays where he just lets receivers run right by him -- or gives so much cushion it looks like he is playing over at the Timex Performance Center practice field across the parking lot. That tells me that perhaps it is a matter of concentration for Ross, bringing his best on some plays but too often suffering brainlock and not doing what he should.

No one expects Ross to suddenly morph into a shutdown guy, but he needs to be better than he has been the past two weeks.

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He was a stud in college....period

I couldnt forsee Webby being better than him at that point, i didnt even think it was close but my how the tables have turned.

Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!

Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related

by Blue Gates on Sep 22, 2011 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

He was a stud as a rookie

He was our best D-back in 07 and had a better rookie year than Revis. It’s really a shame how his play has declined.

by Landeta on Sep 22, 2011 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't know if Aaron Ross should be the guy.

We need him as CB, if he gets hurt on punt returns, then we are screwed.

"What seest thou else, in the dark backward and abysm of time?"

by SteveSmithIsATraitor on Sep 22, 2011 1:24 PM EDT reply actions  

can't let fear of injury make these kinds of decisions for you

as a coach you’ve gotta put the guy you think can do that job the best in there.

"Stats are for losers, so you keep looking at stats, and we’ll keep looking at wins." -Raheem Morris

by BleedBigBlue on Sep 22, 2011 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rec'd

New York Giants French blog (with croissants and wine)
Always remember that the USA is an independant country partly because of the French. If it was not for the French, you would be watching rugby and TV ads for tea and roastbeef.
Thanks to the French, Americans can enjoy the NFL every Sunday :)

by Thiergow on Sep 22, 2011 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

But it's also workload, isn't it?

Isn’t that why the iggles switch out DeSean or do they worry about the injury too? Just wondering.

"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning

by blains2000 on Sep 22, 2011 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well he was always their situational punt returner

when the going gets bad they put D jack back their, i dont think he was ever full time but i could be waaaaay wrong.

Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!

Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related

by Blue Gates on Sep 22, 2011 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like this
if its one team that should go balls to the wall and say screw it. its us.

"Winning is the most important thing in my life, after breathing. Breathing first, winning next."

by Larry Soprano on Sep 22, 2011 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Me too.

Factology! Belief is ignorance.

by LoNJDTechnology on Sep 22, 2011 2:34 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

every team should say that

look at the NFL his year. It’s not when will you sustain injuries, but if.

by Town on Sep 22, 2011 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree, we should just go all out and heck witn anything else. We sholud be bold and will come through.

We should be aggressive on O and D as well as ST’s from now on. Are listening OC and DC? TC? Quinn? OL? DL? RBs? WRS? DL? Secondary? We are too banged up for anyone to to have faith in us that we can win. What the heck, let us just do one for our injured players!

Let's Go Giants!

by BB1156 on Sep 22, 2011 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed

But, who is going to return punts if Ross does not? Jernigan? Manningham looks unlikely to play. Victor Cruz has never done it in a regular-season game. Devin Thomas and DJ Ware have never done it. Neither has Da’Rel Scott. Very little choice, to be honest.

by Ed Valentine on Sep 22, 2011 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not to mention if they ever let him do it twice in a row

they will see that he is the best punt returner we have, i trusted him more than hixon but Ross was always hurt.

Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!

Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related

by Blue Gates on Sep 22, 2011 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

he was on his way to a decent return monday

but BWill got in his way and decided to watch Ross instead of turning up field & blocking

Nobody wins the Superblow in September.
Talk is Cheap! Play the Game!

by 1giantlion on Sep 22, 2011 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think Jernigan's gotta get the chance at some point

I guess not this week because it’s the iggles, but I think they have to throw JJ out there eventually, live with the growing pains, in order to protect Ross.

"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning

by blains2000 on Sep 22, 2011 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jernigan

Coughlin basically said this week that at some point it will be Jernigan’s job.

by Ed Valentine on Sep 23, 2011 7:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

Put the guys who did it in 07/08

Ahmad Bradshawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww…

I know its not possible.

by NYGFan777 on Sep 22, 2011 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Devin Thomas

Didn’t Devin Thomas do the returns in the offseason and he was fine. He should be given the chance to do so in the regular season too. No to JJ12 since it is critical not to drop the kicks/punts this week. This is one week we can’t mess up on Special Teams.

Let's Go Giants!

by BB1156 on Sep 22, 2011 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thomas never did punt returns

Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants

by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 22, 2011 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1000

Why would Coughlin put one of a few CBs left back there to return punts with a risk of injury?

Looks like TC is setting himself up to get fired soon.

Greg Jones will bring it and serve notice in the NFL

"Hello...you play to win the game."

by TrueBlue777 on Sep 22, 2011 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

you answered your own question
Why would Coughlin put one of a few CBs left back there to return punts with a risk of injury?

because

“Hello…you play to win the game.”

"Stats are for losers, so you keep looking at stats, and we’ll keep looking at wins." -Raheem Morris

by BleedBigBlue on Sep 22, 2011 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Never knew he had that much country in him

With the proper marketing Justin could replace Karl Malone as America’s favorite black redneck.

At least we know he won’t be sticking his bow in his sweats when we goes out clubbing.

Blue is the color of melancholy and honesty
Green is the color of inexperience, envy and nausea.

by roguetrader on Sep 22, 2011 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

too funny sir.

Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!

Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related

by Blue Gates on Sep 22, 2011 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

The "we" was a typo

And I tried so hard not to make it racist….Damn

Blue is the color of melancholy and honesty
Green is the color of inexperience, envy and nausea.

by roguetrader on Sep 22, 2011 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

I forgot who mentioned it

But 5 QBs are set to break the yardage record for NFL passers right now. I don’t think Ross will ever deserve his draft status, especially when compared to Revis who was picked only a little bit earlier. Too many defenses right now is giving up too much yardage through the year and hopefully those communication and miscellaneous issues fade away in favor of defenses stronger than what we are seeing right now. I’m confident Ross won’t be giving up 24 yards a completion game in and game out, though he likely won’t be turning All-Pro anytime soon.

by gatesoffire1178 on Sep 22, 2011 1:28 PM EDT reply actions  

I agree with all this

Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!

Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related

by Blue Gates on Sep 22, 2011 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

through the air* and is / are – sorry.

But even in giving up 321 yards to Bradford, Green Bay’s vaunted D with the widely considered 2nd best CB in the league, gave up over 400 yards to Cam Newton. Let’s keep the panic button undisturbed for now.

by gatesoffire1178 on Sep 22, 2011 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yup and that was week 2

They gave a bunch in week 1 as well.

Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!

Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related

by Blue Gates on Sep 22, 2011 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, after that first Thursday game

I thought they slipped something in the CBA outlawing pass defense.

"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning

by blains2000 on Sep 22, 2011 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

LMAO

Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!

Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related

by Blue Gates on Sep 22, 2011 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is it possible..

The sudden increase in passing yards can be attributed to the lockout? Could lack of training camp correlate with the lack of pass defense?

Team Juggernaut: Jacobs, Hynoski. No one is safe

by Jared G on Sep 22, 2011 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

maybe

“experts” though offenses would suffer the most from the lockout.. OLines, QBs, WRs (cough cough.. Giants.. cough). But it seems like defenses are most affected at the moment

Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants

by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 22, 2011 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

NFL.com has a video segment up

where some former players (and a coach) discuss their theories on it. I thought it was pretty good.

Here is a link.

"Stats are for losers, so you keep looking at stats, and we’ll keep looking at wins." -Raheem Morris

by BleedBigBlue on Sep 22, 2011 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

it's a result of the lockout

Defenses always lag, even when there is the normal amount of time to prepare. Notice that there was a dropoff in passing yards week 2.

by Town on Sep 22, 2011 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

media myth

first there wasn’t a drop off in passing yards in week 2. Passing yards actually increased increased in week 2.

I checked dating back to 2007. There’s no correlation between yardage early, mid or late season. Since 2007 passing yards increased from week 1 thru 4 in each season except 2009.

by GMen56-11 on Sep 22, 2011 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

We won't know if it's a media myth

for another few weeks, probably months.

Self-praise is for losers. Be a winner. Stand for something. Always have class, and be humble.
-John Madden

by Willgfass on Sep 22, 2011 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Defenses always lag, even when there is the normal amount of time to prepare

I was replying to Town’s post that the defense always lags. He also posted passing yards dropped week 2 from week 1. It didn’t. Passing yards increased.

by GMen56-11 on Sep 22, 2011 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was just talking about this season

and I did not add them up, but I am very surprised that tehre wasn’t a drop.

by Town on Sep 23, 2011 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

Im still high on Ross or just high whichever

but I think his biggest issue is confidence, he makes a play then hes on top of the world….he messes up and he’s down in the dumps….they say CB’s should have short memories well Ross has the memory of an elephant.

He has to learn that every play he makes is not a pro bowl play and every mishap is not the end of the world.

Stick to the script son, thats my advice for him, block it all out cause you would be hard pressed to find a CB with his talent but his mind is fragile.

Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!

Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related

by Blue Gates on Sep 22, 2011 1:28 PM EDT reply actions  

Dont judge me......LOL

Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!

Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related

by Blue Gates on Sep 22, 2011 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

ha

nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!

MAKE IT WORK!!!

by nywins42 on Sep 22, 2011 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL

Nets Mets Giants ALL DAY

by netsareboss on Sep 22, 2011 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Somebody in the house is a smal time dealer

Nothing odd about that, although I’d ship 20lbs at a time and have somebody drive it.

Blue is the color of melancholy and honesty
Green is the color of inexperience, envy and nausea.

by roguetrader on Sep 22, 2011 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

not high, unless you

are eating a bag of doritos and popcorn, spilling it all over your keyboard.
wow i didn’t know revis was in the same draft, harder to believe Ross was taken just after…

But i think your spot on with his confidence. I remember his stupid fist pumps, i was yelling for him to be ready for the next play. Or at least fist pump after 4th dwn and we get possesion.

I love the Giants and I'm holding down the fort up here in Alberta, Canada.
I got your backs, believe it or not, from all the Eagle and Cowgirls fans alike.
Giants, baby, Giants!

by GmenGiant on Sep 22, 2011 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

What about D' Scott?

Is he incapable of hauling in a punt and running with it. It doesn’t seem like a rare skill set.

by TheGifford on Sep 22, 2011 1:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Well the # one thing in PR is ball possession and protection

So maybe they dont trust him to catch it everytime, muffed punts take years of my life.

Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!

Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related

by Blue Gates on Sep 22, 2011 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

#1*

Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!

Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related

by Blue Gates on Sep 22, 2011 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

returning punts

I know some of us have said it before, and the response is usually that is b.s., but returning punts is awkward. It’s a very different skill set than returning kick-offs. Need a lot of reps.

Ross is the only guy on the roster the coaches count on to catch punts.

by spaniard13 on Sep 22, 2011 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

yup.

kickoff returns are speed oriented. Punt returns are more about shiftiness and making people miss.

by B-rod24 on Sep 22, 2011 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Scott returned kick offs in college

I think that is a good way to get this guy on the field and hopefully get Ware off of it.

by DooshLaLoosh on Sep 22, 2011 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Again

Scott has never done it. Punt return is not about speed. You can’t just go back there and catch punts in the NFL w/no previous experience or w/o a ton of practice.

by Ed Valentine on Sep 23, 2011 7:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

"We are all going to die!"

That was my first reaction when TT injured himself and Ross had to take his place. But he had a nice game against the Bears so I was kind of hopeful.

2 weeks after the season kickoff, I’m back to my first reaction.

Please Prince, get healthy and learn how to be a good NFL CB as quickly as possible!

New York Giants French blog (with croissants and wine)
Always remember that the USA is an independant country partly because of the French. If it were not for the French, you would be watching rugby and TV ads for tea and roastbeef.
Thanks to the French, Americans can enjoy the NFL every Sunday :)

by Thiergow on Sep 22, 2011 1:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Get on the Blimp

When its 3rd and long, throw the ball past the marker.

by Fester McDougal on Sep 22, 2011 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

You should change your handle to Fester McGif

"Winning is the most important thing in my life, after breathing. Breathing first, winning next."

by Larry Soprano on Sep 22, 2011 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know I have been pounding them over the last couple of days

Just learned how to attach them so going a bit crazy. I crack myself up!

When its 3rd and long, throw the ball past the marker.

by Fester McDougal on Sep 22, 2011 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can only do images

I’m a loser

nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!

MAKE IT WORK!!!

by nywins42 on Sep 22, 2011 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Keep trying, you have to play better remember?

When its 3rd and long, throw the ball past the marker.

by Fester McDougal on Sep 22, 2011 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

yes...

nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!

MAKE IT WORK!!!

by nywins42 on Sep 22, 2011 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

remember how excited we were about our secondary when we had

TT, CWeb, Prince, Ross, Bruce Johnson at corner, with KP, Rolle and Grant at Safety

i miss that….

by Matt dubs on Sep 22, 2011 1:33 PM EDT reply actions  

yeah

Seems like a couple of centuries ago

by NortheastKingdom on Sep 22, 2011 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Matt dubs

We miss you – could you come back and make a selection for 2011 BBV Survival Football Week 3 please…
Survival Football

"It is super important to come out right away and stuff it down people's throats and make them respect the run. We have Hakeem and Mario and *Hixon* and then they can get off as well. It starts with the running game always."
- BJacobs

by Just J on Sep 25, 2011 12:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe we should......

trade him and get his wife instead, at least we know she can run fast enough to chase down players. She could probably cover better then he does.

by rbman3 on Sep 22, 2011 1:35 PM EDT reply actions  

Im telling you

Dude can cover, it just seems like he is not there at times, i mean i dont see him get burned at all, just seems like he’s in space but he is always right there. Thats what kills me, because he can stick to them like glue but then he just says eff ill let them catch the ball lol.

Its quite fascinating actually.

Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!

Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related

by Blue Gates on Sep 22, 2011 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

exactly

I have been a huge Ross supporter since we drafted him but obviously I realize he has vastly underperformed. But the frustrating part is that he shows very good cover skills, but then the next play hes lost.

I'm looking for Ray Finkle.....and a clean pair of shorts.

by bdiggle25 on Sep 22, 2011 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

The guy

doesn’t have a “spotlight” on him, more like a bullseye…Hard pressed to find a corner with his
talent, really?

"Beckum is Beckum, it's a hamstring".....Tommy Couglin

by Great Gatsby on Sep 22, 2011 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes sir

but hard work beats talent if talent dont work hard.

Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!

Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related

by Blue Gates on Sep 22, 2011 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Will Allen anyone?

used to drive me nuts!!!! Never saw a man in great coverage all the time give up so many completions.

Banned from GangGreenNation for being a troll for this ONE post after somebody classified the Giants as a LUCKY organization.

He's a bitter Jets fan what do you expect?

That happens when the team you root for hasn’t won in damn near half a century!!

Sour grapes, jealousy will get you nowhere in life lol.

by bleedblue12 on Sep 22, 2011 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

For a guy with the speed he has

it seems awfully unusual how many of those completions have been behind him (as evidenced by the ridiculous yards per catch stat). It makes me wonder if there isn’t more to the story… either communication or something going on with the safties, I dont know.

What I DO know is that I don’t really care to find out if Coe is the answer against the PHI receivers. I hope he is able to shrug it off and figure out whatever the problem was, because there aren’t really any other options.

your mom goes to college

by Oppenheimer919 on Sep 22, 2011 1:42 PM EDT reply actions  

You'll see plenty of Coe

Reid’s gonna go 4 wide all day long

by TNYFBG on Sep 22, 2011 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thats true

and I’m not saying I don’t like Coe as a player… from what I’ve seen he looks okay. I just mean, the situation being what it was in the Rams game, it sort of made sense to pull him and see what Coe could do. Not sure I feel the same about giving him the start on the outside in this situation.

your mom goes to college

by Oppenheimer919 on Sep 22, 2011 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

I gotcha

Totally agree… I’m just thinking that if I’m game planning versus the Giants, I’m either putting as many DBs on the field as possible or going max protect with a 2 man pattern, expecting that if I buy enough time, they’ll get open. I’m just having nightmares of Smith running right past Coe on his way to the end zone. Excuse me, I’m going to go chug bleach now.

by TNYFBG on Sep 22, 2011 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah

Vick’s ability to buy time in the backfield is, in my opinion, a greater threat to this Giants defense than his ability to scramble. That said I’m still of the opinion if they can get after him a bit and force him to move to his right, he will do some dumb things with the football. We’ll see.

your mom goes to college

by Oppenheimer919 on Sep 22, 2011 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

2 teams

with far inferior front 4s than ours beat him up and got after him all day. I’m hoping to see a lot of Tuck lined up over Kelce/Watkins. Should flush him right into JPP’s waiting arms.

by TNYFBG on Sep 22, 2011 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Watkins

didn’t dress the first week and didn’t play (or if so only a couple of snaps) the second. I doubt we see him at all.

by Tucker Fredrickson on Sep 22, 2011 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

True

He does have Deon Grant behind him, things might be different if Rolle was behind him.

Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!

Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related

by Blue Gates on Sep 22, 2011 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

and yeah on the punt returns

The only way he’s not returning punts is if they decide to say screw it and just rush 11.

your mom goes to college

by Oppenheimer919 on Sep 22, 2011 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

We cut Joe Burnett

He was an awesome punt returner in college. I remember screaming at the TV when I saw Brian Witherspoon back to return the punt that ultimately ended his season. We are playing with fire letting Ross return punts. Burnett is serviceable and we should consider signing him back.

by DooshLaLoosh on Sep 22, 2011 1:46 PM EDT reply actions  

Is it me or do all these issues, Injuries real & fake, bad coverage, no offense, every important FA gone,

bunch of rookies, TC on hot seat etc……… doesnt all sound like the perfect build up to the NFL films DVD for our superbowl win??

Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!

Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related

by Blue Gates on Sep 22, 2011 1:53 PM EDT reply actions  

Does to me too

Hopefully it turns out that way – lol

"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning

by blains2000 on Sep 22, 2011 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

What Gives?

He has the speed but keeps getting burnt??? So he must be having mental lapses. Whatever the case, it is what it is, we need him to really step it up!

Remeber our old DB Elvis Patterson and his nickname= Toast. Because he was always getting burnt.

I’m honestly going to say some prayers for the entire team, but especially for Aaron Ross. Can I get an Amen on that?

by oldschoolblue64 on Sep 22, 2011 1:54 PM EDT reply actions  

AHHHHHHMEEEEN!!

Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!

Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related

by Blue Gates on Sep 22, 2011 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

hopefully AHHHMEN doesnt turn into AHHHH MAAAAN!!!!

which eventually turns into Cmoooon Maaaan and then makes its way to Cmooon Son!!!!

Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!

Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related

by Blue Gates on Sep 22, 2011 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hopefully it turns into AHHHMAAAAD!!!!!

and Ross doesn’t even have to see the field that much.

"Stats are for losers, so you keep looking at stats, and we’ll keep looking at wins." -Raheem Morris

by BleedBigBlue on Sep 22, 2011 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

You clever son of a gun you...

Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!

Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related

by Blue Gates on Sep 22, 2011 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

having great catch-up speed

is better than having great 40 speed

by Town on Sep 23, 2011 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

they're the same thing

Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows

by Rorschach44 on Sep 23, 2011 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Desean Jackson vs Giants Corners.

I’d rather Aaron Ross face Jackson than Webster.

Jackson runs a 4.33, Ross a 4.41, and Webster a 4.50.

If we put Ross on Jackson, he has a much better chance of staying with him until he can pass him off to the safety. Also, Jackson’s route tree is much more limited than Maclin and he is less physical.

I can only hope Desean runs flys and posts all game. Keep Kenny back to support Ross, and have Webster take Maclin with Grant helping out, and Antrel takes on Avant or Traitor.

This is probably the best possible scenario, which still isn’t pretty, but if we do this, it only magnifies the importance of Ross playing well.

Team Greg Jones
Team Jerry Reese

by BigBlueIntervention on Sep 22, 2011 1:57 PM EDT reply actions  

Plus, you have to be physical with Jackson

Bump him at the line and off his routes. You just can’t miss or you’re done.

"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning

by blains2000 on Sep 22, 2011 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good point...

he reminds me of Reggie Miller vs. the Knicks…skinniest guy on the court but will kill you if you let him.Just have bump him hard and stay in front of him.

by oldschoolblue64 on Sep 22, 2011 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Was watching something last year

that showed some teams pushing him around all game and having some success. It’s easy to say but not easy to do and you can’t make any mistakes really.

"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning

by blains2000 on Sep 22, 2011 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

remember watching that too

It really is the only way to slow him down and Ross has been good in the past at doing that, being physical and bumping receivers at the line. As long as KP is there over the top to help I think we will be OK.

I'm looking for Ray Finkle.....and a clean pair of shorts.

by bdiggle25 on Sep 22, 2011 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Finito

Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!

Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related

by Blue Gates on Sep 22, 2011 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm still thinking that Rolle and Phillips deep is the answer

Ross has trouble with the turn and burn, has had it since college, but at Texas he was just too athletic for the WRs. So when he’s not I press banging the WR, they get out of their cut and have an extra step, the QBs know it so they throw it in that in between space.

Now you have a WR with the ball in a bit of space, that equals some big YAC

Now with Rolle deep you get more closing speed to shut that window (and better anticipation), then let Ross play bump and Run. The bump is the key, cause it gives Ross back that 1/2 second he often loses turning his hips to run.

"That's mostly fans who say that kind of stuff and they really don't understand the process. We have good players on the team. We're not looking to go out and make every sexy splash that can be made. We make solid football decisions. That's been happening for a long time," Reese said

by trueblue63 on Sep 22, 2011 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

And CWEB on Maclin makes the most sense

Webby does well with that kind of WR

Problem is, if we put Coe in the slot, who’s our 4th CB, if they go 4 wide?

Till Prince comes back our roster is really tight

"That's mostly fans who say that kind of stuff and they really don't understand the process. We have good players on the team. We're not looking to go out and make every sexy splash that can be made. We make solid football decisions. That's been happening for a long time," Reese said

by trueblue63 on Sep 22, 2011 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's usually Rolle in the slot

Coe would cover the 4th WR & we still have BWill on the bench.

Nobody wins the Superblow in September.
Talk is Cheap! Play the Game!

by 1giantlion on Sep 22, 2011 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's the thing

I’m dying to see Rolle back at safety

"That's mostly fans who say that kind of stuff and they really don't understand the process. We have good players on the team. We're not looking to go out and make every sexy splash that can be made. We make solid football decisions. That's been happening for a long time," Reese said

by trueblue63 on Sep 22, 2011 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

dont disagree

but we have more depth at Safety compared to our corners. Im more comfortable with Rolle, Grant, and/or Sash on the field over Coe & BWill29

Nobody wins the Superblow in September.
Talk is Cheap! Play the Game!

by 1giantlion on Sep 22, 2011 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

i also think

once Prince is healthy, we’ll see Rolle move back to Safety more often

Nobody wins the Superblow in September.
Talk is Cheap! Play the Game!

by 1giantlion on Sep 22, 2011 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Prince healthy....Rolle back @ safety more.

Dont you threaten me with a good time.

Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!

Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related

by Blue Gates on Sep 22, 2011 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

J. Williams

Die hard Giants fan since wide Right! I was 5...

I'm down wit JPP
Yea you know me

by wangstu13 on Sep 22, 2011 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

at least i'd like to see him get a shot at it

Die hard Giants fan since wide Right! I was 5...

I'm down wit JPP
Yea you know me

by wangstu13 on Sep 22, 2011 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Eagles do not have someone on there team named traitor

by The Legend on Sep 22, 2011 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

There’s always going to be something you have to give up. In your scenario, you probably have LBs on McCoy and either Celek or the 4th receiver and you’re only rushing 4. That’ll get murdered.

by JimmyK on Sep 22, 2011 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

So .09 better in the 40 makes him a better corner?

That’s ridiculous. Running a 40 yard dash is a little different than playing CB. Running very fast in a straight line is one thing, playing football is another.

by BigBabyJesus on Sep 22, 2011 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

can we sign

Floyd Mayweather Jr for the week then

He can start at desean and finish with vicks

by a hay on Sep 23, 2011 12:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

amen

Why is Tom Quinn still here? I loves me some Coach Clawfin.

by costanza! on Sep 22, 2011 1:57 PM EDT reply actions  

one of the "pass defensed" was

The pass that Boley tipped at the goal line which was intended for danario alexander. Ross was 3-5 yards beaten on the play and only got a hand on the ball because boley redirected it with his tip.

by DanJon on Sep 22, 2011 2:09 PM EDT reply actions  

Defensive scheme

I think our best bet might be to just man up on everyone. Cwebb on Maclin, Ross on Jackson, Rolle on Avant, Coe on SS, JWill77 on McCoy, & Boley on Celek with KP & Grant playing 2 deep. Let JPP spy Vick. Just man up & beat the guy in front of you. Then the Dline can do what they do and get pressure.

Nobody wins the Superblow in September.
Talk is Cheap! Play the Game!

by 1giantlion on Sep 22, 2011 2:14 PM EDT reply actions  

*JWill57

Nobody wins the Superblow in September.
Talk is Cheap! Play the Game!

by 1giantlion on Sep 22, 2011 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like KP playing centerfield..

Let Grant play Celek and Boley play McCoy. JWill57 would make a great spy. Hopefully D-line plays contain

by DooshLaLoosh on Sep 22, 2011 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Injuries/luck (off topic)

Reading my Twitter feed, it’s quite annoying seeing how there’s good news in Philly (Vick practicing in pads), and the usual dreary news for the Giants (Osi and Manningham not practicing). Not one ball has bounced our way this year. I hope a few balls bounce our way Sunday. Maybe even a few HUGE balls….like Stokley’s….

by Split316 on Sep 22, 2011 2:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Stokley’s package will only get biiger

as the season go’s on

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by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 22, 2011 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

*bigger

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by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 22, 2011 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Stok's cause

it gets talked about on the national stage of MNF

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by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 22, 2011 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think he stuffs

When its 3rd and long, throw the ball past the marker.

by Fester McDougal on Sep 22, 2011 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL

it sux this cuts off b/c I wanna see the chick on the left smack the ish outta the other one.

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by 1giantlion on Sep 22, 2011 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'll smash them

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by nywins42 on Sep 22, 2011 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hopefully so...

I love the fact that he was brought in to help mentor as well. We have two great athletes on the practice squad in DePalma and Hogan that are prototype slot guys. Might not be lone before we see one of these guys suit up on Sundays.

by DooshLaLoosh on Sep 22, 2011 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Honestly:

I’d rather see JJ12 and Thomas on returns (punt and kickoff, respectively), than see Ross back there at all. Let the offense deal with field position, right now Ross is too valuable as a CB.

Now, as a CB, I want whichever corner will be more physical matched up on Jackson. He is easily rerouted, and if a corner gets physical on him, he tends to be a ghost. Above all, they need to abandon the zone defense. You cannot give any of the eagles’ offensive threats any room to work. Be physical at the LOS, and if they make a catch, hit them RIGHT THERE. No “bend but don’t break”… just break them.

I’m also hoping for Greg Jones to have a big game. He can split gaps like no other linebacker in the draft, and I can see Canty/Anvil opening up some nice ones in the middle. Also, I think the eagles will underestimate the Giants’ LB’s, particularly Williams.

by Raptor22 on Sep 22, 2011 2:53 PM EDT reply actions  

Put Jernigan back there

The preseason is over. He hasn’t fumbled any punts in the regular season. It’s time to find out what he can do. That’s why the drafted him.

Greg Jones will bring it and serve notice in the NFL

"Hello...you play to win the game."

by TrueBlue777 on Sep 22, 2011 2:56 PM EDT reply actions  

He hasn't fumbled any punts because he has been inactive.

Give him another shot and I’m sure he will put one on the ground

by TampaGiant on Sep 22, 2011 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Even those with experience drop punts

That’s why you practice. They didn’t draft him to put him on the shelf.

Greg Jones will bring it and serve notice in the NFL

"Hello...you play to win the game."

by TrueBlue777 on Sep 22, 2011 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

HA!

Is that number photo-shopped onto Sandler’s jersey or was that his # in the movie

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by nywins42 on Sep 22, 2011 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bobby Boucher wore number 9

"Winning is the most important thing in my life, after breathing. Breathing first, winning next."

by Larry Soprano on Sep 22, 2011 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

he was 9 in the movie

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by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 22, 2011 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

reply WIN!

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by nywins42 on Sep 22, 2011 3:05 PM EDT reply actions  

MY KEYBOARD APPEARS TO BE BROKEN.

I THINK WE’RE LOSING TRACK OF THE ORIGINAL POST.

by Charles L on Sep 22, 2011 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm proposing a beer summit with Coughlin for you two

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"Hello...you play to win the game."

by TrueBlue777 on Sep 22, 2011 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

As long as Eli isn't the bartender

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by nywins42 on Sep 22, 2011 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

It may make it into my pint glass if he did

nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!

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by nywins42 on Sep 22, 2011 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is that Romo's wife?

nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!

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by nywins42 on Sep 22, 2011 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

rec'd

damn, that’s great

nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!

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by nywins42 on Sep 22, 2011 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

wow, niceee

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by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 22, 2011 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

hahaha

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by Larry Soprano on Sep 22, 2011 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

I never hit the rec button so much in my life LMAO

Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!

Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related

by Blue Gates on Sep 22, 2011 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

BOOM!

"Stats are for losers, so you keep looking at stats, and we’ll keep looking at wins." -Raheem Morris

by BleedBigBlue on Sep 22, 2011 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

This explains why he looks so clueless out there sometimes

Not entirely convinced that’s not just some random goofy looking dude though.

by Charles L on Sep 22, 2011 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Eli's like Kaiser Soze

It’s all an act, he will have the last laugh

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by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 22, 2011 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Stay thirsty my friend

When its 3rd and long, throw the ball past the marker.

by Fester McDougal on Sep 22, 2011 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

anyone else think its funny

that eli wore a button up and suit jacket to what looks like a frat party?

by The Blood of Eli on Sep 22, 2011 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

ahahah this used to be my avatar

best eli manning picture ever

You’d swear that the dude shows up for gametime in this condition

by MrDollarBills on Sep 22, 2011 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah

he might throw a mug to the wrong customer, oooh!

"Beckum is Beckum, it's a hamstring".....Tommy Couglin

by Great Gatsby on Sep 22, 2011 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

WHAT???

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by nywins42 on Sep 22, 2011 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

holy shit

nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!

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by nywins42 on Sep 22, 2011 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

ha!

nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!

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by nywins42 on Sep 22, 2011 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

shh!

now we’re whispering?

by Matt V on Sep 22, 2011 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Who cares?

We’re not on that bus.

by Matt V on Sep 22, 2011 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

WE'RE ON A BLIMP!

On a side note, someone really has to explain to me what that means…

by Charles L on Sep 22, 2011 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Its a bus, not a blimp

When its 3rd and long, throw the ball past the marker.

by Fester McDougal on Sep 22, 2011 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why didn't I remember this sooner...

Yu Gi Oh abridged: I’m on a Blimp (parody of I’m on a boat)

Self-praise is for losers. Be a winner. Stand for something. Always have class, and be humble.
-John Madden

by Willgfass on Sep 22, 2011 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

How many of you

old enough and crazy enough for this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6_AwzuK0zU

‘Expert’ – from the adjective *pert*, meaning ‘lively’ or ‘effective,’ and the prefix *ex-*, meaning ‘not.’

"saying you are right when you’re wrong only gives you the right to be wrong"

An optimist is a person that falls off the empire state building and after 50 floor says so far so good!

by murderhill on Sep 22, 2011 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

its seems

every thursday, these threads just get out of hand. Its the waiting till game day that does it.

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by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 22, 2011 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

it's getting fun again though

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by nywins42 on Sep 22, 2011 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed it's better than the,

“we suck, Eli sucks and we will never win again” theme that has seemed to take over.

by TampaGiant on Sep 22, 2011 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

not complaining

gotta use humor to combat the negative vibes

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by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 22, 2011 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

you got that straight

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by nywins42 on Sep 22, 2011 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Feels like a Friday though!

When its 3rd and long, throw the ball past the marker.

by Fester McDougal on Sep 22, 2011 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

I woke up and thought it was

then was really pissed a second later

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by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 22, 2011 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Damn!

Guess my 401k isn’t gonna be able to pay for cake at my retirement party

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by nywins42 on Sep 22, 2011 3:26 PM EDT reply actions  

zing

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by nywins42 on Sep 22, 2011 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

thanks

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by nywins42 on Sep 22, 2011 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think they want 2 rookies at starting LB

at least for now.
JWills seems to be getting alot of time on passing downs

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by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 22, 2011 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

you're smart

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by nywins42 on Sep 22, 2011 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

rec'd

ha

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by nywins42 on Sep 22, 2011 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

hahaha

I see Blue, he looks glorious!

by RealLT on Sep 22, 2011 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree

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by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 22, 2011 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

could be

but I think Kiwi is needed more at LB right now than he is needed at DE

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by nywins42 on Sep 22, 2011 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

When they used Kiwi at DE

they only had 2 LBs. Usually Boley and JWills.

by Matt V on Sep 22, 2011 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

They were willing to but Kiwi said no to the DE switch so that Tolly could play

So much for boston College huh.

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by Blue Gates on Sep 22, 2011 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

How about Hyronisoris Rex as our PR (AKA Hynoski)

ST guys would just bounce off of him….

When its 3rd and long, throw the ball past the marker.

by Fester McDougal on Sep 22, 2011 3:46 PM EDT reply actions  

once he gets downhill speed

you better not be in his way

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by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 22, 2011 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was looking for a "Holiday Inn Express" image (for some odd reason) and found this gem...

now that’s funny

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by nywins42 on Sep 22, 2011 3:49 PM EDT reply actions  

LOL, wow

but really, how does this pop up in a search for holiday inn express?

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by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 22, 2011 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

it confused me, too

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by nywins42 on Sep 22, 2011 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

It is getting rough around here!!

When its 3rd and long, throw the ball past the marker.

by Fester McDougal on Sep 22, 2011 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

ouch

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by nywins42 on Sep 22, 2011 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

If you were,

Your not the only one going to hell.

by TampaGiant on Sep 22, 2011 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

ha

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by nywins42 on Sep 22, 2011 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

I heard Satan is a cowboy fan

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by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 22, 2011 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm just saying...

<img src="http://Photobucket"/>

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by nywins42 on Sep 22, 2011 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

that can't be true

Bin Laden = Hates America
Cowboys = America’s Team
So by all logic… Bin Laden hates Cowboys

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by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 22, 2011 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

damn...I hate when other people know football word math!

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by nywins42 on Sep 22, 2011 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, it's true.

Didn’t you hear about the stack of porn he had? He thought Romo trying to hold for a kick was a monkey f*cking a football!

by Matt V on Sep 22, 2011 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol

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No one escapes the grip of Porn

coincidentally my grip is better because of porn………go figure.

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by Blue Gates on Sep 22, 2011 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

it's the only catch-22 that actually helps a man

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by nywins42 on Sep 22, 2011 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

In Hell, they only show the Chiefs...

When its 3rd and long, throw the ball past the marker.

by Fester McDougal on Sep 22, 2011 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh snap

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by nywins42 on Sep 22, 2011 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL

Chiefs vs. Raiders every night.

"Stats are for losers, so you keep looking at stats, and we’ll keep looking at wins." -Raheem Morris

by BleedBigBlue on Sep 22, 2011 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

final score

2-2… just two safties and an OT of no scoring

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by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 22, 2011 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

exactly

And the safeties weren’t good defensive plays. They were punt snaps out of the endzone.

by Matt V on Sep 22, 2011 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

on punts

or the QB running out of bounds in the back of the endzone

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by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 22, 2011 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

you read my mind

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by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 22, 2011 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

You got a name on that old lady?

If she’s healed up maybe she can play corner.

your mom goes to college

by Oppenheimer919 on Sep 22, 2011 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

zing

nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!

MAKE IT WORK!!!

by nywins42 on Sep 22, 2011 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

I believe Mrs Ross

When its 3rd and long, throw the ball past the marker.

by Fester McDougal on Sep 22, 2011 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

back to the topic at hand

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d12EEB1C3og this is all the pass plays targeting Aaron Ross from last week. from what i can see, Ross is feast or famine. i counted 5 negative plays(including the Boley tip that went for an incompletion) 4 positive plays, and one neutral play(the first play in this package. altho it was a completion, you could see that Ross was playing over the top, and his underneath help Rolle i think it was, bit on the play action) but when he’s good, he’s real good. that near diving interception was a thing of beauty.

but facts are facts. and 50% of bad plays in a game, just won’t cut it.

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IMPEACH DOLAN!!!!
I will not - lose! -Jay Z-
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Simms-McConkey - FOUND
Step Up and Make Big Plays - FOUND
Blue Gonz - FOUND
BOBBIBLUE - HE'S BAAACCKKK!!!
cjmulrain.....???

The gangs almost all here!

by wilddre22 on Sep 22, 2011 3:58 PM EDT reply actions  

I agree

I have to include the Boley goal line tipped ball. I’ve seen him credited with a good goal line stop

nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!

MAKE IT WORK!!!

by nywins42 on Sep 22, 2011 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good find

Self-praise is for losers. Be a winner. Stand for something. Always have class, and be humble.
-John Madden

by Willgfass on Sep 22, 2011 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

thanks

you don’t do ask a giant’s fan with inter conference rivals right? i figured it’s cause they know us pretty well, so it’s not much ground that can be broken.

Yes, I am a Giants fan. Now that we got that out of the way....
IMPEACH DOLAN!!!!
I will not - lose! -Jay Z-
Missing BBVers:
Simms-McConkey - FOUND
Step Up and Make Big Plays - FOUND
Blue Gonz - FOUND
BOBBIBLUE - HE'S BAAACCKKK!!!
cjmulrain.....???

The gangs almost all here!

by wilddre22 on Sep 22, 2011 11:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well errr

I did it with the redskins, but I didn’t do it with the Eagles for two reasons. One, I didn’t feel like putting down the gunpowder for when the match gets lit.

And also I’ve been busy with school (read: a lazy bum) and didn’t finish the stats thing and figured what’s the point.

Self-praise is for losers. Be a winner. Stand for something. Always have class, and be humble.
-John Madden

by Willgfass on Sep 24, 2011 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

You know what

after watching that, with the exception of the one where Boley tipped the ball, which was clearly bad positioning by Ross… I honestly feel a lot better about the job he did in general. I know that won’t be a popular opinion so I’m not even going to explain myself, but whatever. Thanks for finding / posting that.

your mom goes to college

by Oppenheimer919 on Sep 22, 2011 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

no i understand where you're coming from op

it’s not like when you see certain CBs that just don’t have a clue when they’re out there. Ross has ability. i noticed a few missed jams at the line that led to the receiver getting a step on him. that’s technique. hopefully the coaches and Webb and them guys get in there and work with him on that.

the problem is teams see on tape that he’s the weak link, and will pick at that scab til it comes off. so it may get worse b4 it gets better.

Yes, I am a Giants fan. Now that we got that out of the way....
IMPEACH DOLAN!!!!
I will not - lose! -Jay Z-
Missing BBVers:
Simms-McConkey - FOUND
Step Up and Make Big Plays - FOUND
Blue Gonz - FOUND
BOBBIBLUE - HE'S BAAACCKKK!!!
cjmulrain.....???

The gangs almost all here!

by wilddre22 on Sep 22, 2011 11:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Giants outlook..."On the Fence" at NFL.com
Giants

An organization can only take so many personnel losses. If Hakeem Nicks goes down (he’s playing hurt), forget it. Yes, Green Bay won the Super Bowl last year with double-digit players on IR. But there’s a reason that was considered so special. Teams just can’t take losing players like Terrell Thomas, Osi Umenyiora, Mario Manningham, Domenik Hixon and Jonatahn Goff. Hopefully Umenyiora and Manningham can rebound and have great seasons. Otherwise, it’s sell-time.

nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!

MAKE IT WORK!!!

by nywins42 on Sep 22, 2011 3:58 PM EDT reply actions  

sell or

push out of blimp

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by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 22, 2011 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

ha

sell = blimp ride

nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!

MAKE IT WORK!!!

by nywins42 on Sep 22, 2011 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

When the herd is selling, its time to buy!

When its 3rd and long, throw the ball past the marker.

by Fester McDougal on Sep 22, 2011 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rebound?

Manninhgam hasn’t even missed a game yet. He doesn’t need to rebound.

Team Ghost: Manningham, Sintim, Beckum, Barden, JPP, Anvil, Ross

by GhostDini on Sep 22, 2011 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

true

he would be a good with rebounds though

nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!

MAKE IT WORK!!!

by nywins42 on Sep 22, 2011 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

So would Prince

"Winning is the most important thing in my life, after breathing. Breathing first, winning next."

by Larry Soprano on Sep 22, 2011 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

game... blouses

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by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 22, 2011 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

wow

nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!

MAKE IT WORK!!!

by nywins42 on Sep 22, 2011 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Let's go have some pancakes!!

Banned from GangGreenNation for being a troll for this ONE post after somebody classified the Giants as a LUCKY organization.

He's a bitter Jets fan what do you expect?

That happens when the team you root for hasn’t won in damn near half a century!!

Sour grapes, jealousy will get you nowhere in life lol.

by bleedblue12 on Sep 22, 2011 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Forgot to mention this

Russ Saulsberg on FOX 5 news was talking about Hix last night and he kept calling him Donovan Hixon… really guy… really?

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by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 22, 2011 4:10 PM EDT reply actions  

Who is Hix?

Team Ghost: Manningham, Sintim, Beckum, Barden, JPP, Anvil, Ross

by GhostDini on Sep 22, 2011 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nick name for Hixon??

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Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
SASH

"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning

SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!

by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 22, 2011 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

my bad

I meant Dominick Nixon and Hakeem Hicks

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by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 22, 2011 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

that's even worse

nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!

MAKE IT WORK!!!

by nywins42 on Sep 22, 2011 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fox 5....

first place I go for sports info

TeamJPP

by andiamo708 on Sep 22, 2011 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fox 5

First place I’d go to investigate illegal money in football games

Team Juggernaut: Jacobs, Hynoski. No one is safe

by Jared G on Sep 22, 2011 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

First place i'd go if i was a suicide bomber

that is, if the reporting doesnt anger you to the point where you hit the switch prematurely in your car on the way to their building.

Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!

Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related

by Blue Gates on Sep 22, 2011 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Russ has fallen from his sulky too many times

He is a “dees and dem” guy who shouts but does not know much. There are very few good sports guys around on network TV. Last I liked was Sal Marcianno. He knew what he was talking about.

As opposed to Lolita Lopez, used to be local PIX sports. She was terrible, knew nothing, added nothing, just threw in “da me tres” every once in a while for basketball.

All the Giants should play like Mark Bavaro.
Tom Quinn Must Go!
It is equally worthless when people are always optimistic or always pessimistic. Either way I take their opinion with a pound of salt because I know they only have one setting. I post my own thoughts, not what either side wants to read.

by UnknownJintsFan on Sep 22, 2011 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Someone is getting suspended this weekend...

I’m betting on Jacobs due to a right cross

nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!

MAKE IT WORK!!!

by nywins42 on Sep 22, 2011 4:43 PM EDT reply actions  

I got my money on TC

KG might be due for another punch in the face. He always goes on to do great things shortly after.

Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!

Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related

by Blue Gates on Sep 22, 2011 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

I bet TC wouldn't miss

"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning

by blains2000 on Sep 22, 2011 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

KG is a hypercondriac

You probably dont have to connect to get your point across.

Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!

Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related

by Blue Gates on Sep 22, 2011 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

You know KG won't punch a TE

because he does not know they exist.

All the Giants should play like Mark Bavaro.
Tom Quinn Must Go!
It is equally worthless when people are always optimistic or always pessimistic. Either way I take their opinion with a pound of salt because I know they only have one setting. I post my own thoughts, not what either side wants to read.

by UnknownJintsFan on Sep 22, 2011 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

zing

that bothers me that he’s like that

nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!

MAKE IT WORK!!!

by nywins42 on Sep 22, 2011 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe him and Mike Martz are close friends.

Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!

Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related

by Blue Gates on Sep 23, 2011 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

No doubt that A. Ross hasn't played well at all

but maybe that should be expected since he hasn’t really played since ’07.

I’m still hoping he can break the rust off and become the guy we saw breaking through during the ’07 season. Most likely not but I can be optimistic.

Please get Phil Simms in the Hall of Fame

by The Curse on Sep 22, 2011 5:02 PM EDT reply actions  

btw - is anyone missing Goff?

Jones is playing well

Please get Phil Simms in the Hall of Fame

by The Curse on Sep 22, 2011 5:04 PM EDT reply actions  

nice

nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!

MAKE IT WORK!!!

by nywins42 on Sep 22, 2011 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Blasphemy

Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!

Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related

by Blue Gates on Sep 23, 2011 8:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Field Day

The Giants are 3rd best in the league in rushing yards allowed, the Eagles are 30th. Bradshaw and Jacobs should have a field day. as for Mccoy, not so much.

by BIGblueintheface on Sep 22, 2011 5:38 PM EDT reply actions  

remember who is calling the plays

Bradshaw and Jacobs will combine for 100 yards again I reckon

by MrDollarBills on Sep 22, 2011 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wonder if Ross could play WR.

Quit playing not to lose. Start playing to WIN! Geeez...

by GAgiantfan on Sep 22, 2011 6:09 PM EDT reply actions  

I dnt know abt that....

But for sure I know he can run behind one.

by NYGFan777 on Sep 22, 2011 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

No

All the Giants should play like Mark Bavaro.
Tom Quinn Must Go!
It is equally worthless when people are always optimistic or always pessimistic. Either way I take their opinion with a pound of salt because I know they only have one setting. I post my own thoughts, not what either side wants to read.

by UnknownJintsFan on Sep 22, 2011 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well I just had to post this again

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzYsiNZgZ7M

Blue is the color of melancholy and honesty
Green is the color of inexperience, envy and nausea.

by roguetrader on Sep 22, 2011 6:32 PM EDT reply actions  

Punt returns

I would honestly have someone stand back there and just fair catch every punt for the entire game than to risk a starter who has no backup on punt returns. The few extra yards we will gain from Ross returning will be more than made up once we have Coe as a starting CB since Ross is injured.

by Midnight Blue on Sep 22, 2011 6:32 PM EDT reply actions  

Da'rel Scott for punt and/or kick returns!

Remember his fake punt for a Td in preseason? This guy is fast. i just have a better feeling about him than Jernigan.

by scarlet knight on Sep 22, 2011 6:57 PM EDT reply actions  

BTW, anyone have a clue

what Ross is doing in the picture at the top of the article? I don’t think it has anything to do with covering a receiver…

I got a GIF for that!

by Fester McDougal on Sep 22, 2011 9:02 PM EDT reply actions  

he should be out there on the field

on his knees in a wagon, with a used styrofoam cup begging for change to buy a beer

by MrDollarBills on Sep 22, 2011 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

who has seen eli's new oreo commercial

with shaq and one of the williams sister and ono, hes pretty damn funny imo

by BigBlue91 on Sep 22, 2011 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

he has gotton funnier

in his acting skill… Grant and Williams could learn from him

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by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 22, 2011 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

haha i actually think hes pretty funny...

in his own way, and yea eli should help the team on acting

by BigBlue91 on Sep 22, 2011 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Oreo commercials are hilarious

If there’s a new one, I haven’t seen it yet

Self-praise is for losers. Be a winner. Stand for something. Always have class, and be humble.
-John Madden

by Willgfass on Sep 22, 2011 11:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Roster move

Any news on who will be brought into the 53.
Hixon hasn’t been IR’ed yet….I searched around couldnt find anything.

by NYGFan777 on Sep 22, 2011 10:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Giants.com has

both Hixon and Adrian Tracy in the roster though.

by NYGFan777 on Sep 22, 2011 10:20 PM EDT reply actions  

dang

my reply failed me again

by NYGFan777 on Sep 22, 2011 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

He got what two plays that were nice. Who is Ross going to cover Maclin. Did you see what he did to Atlanta and the Rams? Desean Jackson who is faster than Maclin. Fellas we in for a long afternoon. Here top hoping our blitzes rattle vicks cage.

by Giantstep on Sep 23, 2011 1:47 AM EDT reply actions  

eli is the key to victory. he has to stop being jamarcus russel and start being the qb we all know him as. I WANT THE ELI OF 2007-2008.

by albie21 on Sep 23, 2011 4:19 AM EDT reply actions  

Ross is much better in man coverage than in zone

He really sucks at zone really sucks he doesn’t seem to know when the ball is coming or where

by michaelkhan3 on Sep 23, 2011 1:31 PM EDT reply actions  

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