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Giants Vs. Eagles: Five Plays That Led To Catastrophe

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This will be painful, no doubt, but every New York Giants fan remembers what happened the last time the Giants met the Philadelphia Eagles. The epic fourth-quarter collapse by the Giants that -- for all intents and purposes -- imploded the Giants 2010 season.

Let's go through the five fourth-quarter plays that doomed the Giants, along with my thoughts on each play. If you can stomach the memory, the 'Five Plays That Led To Catastrophe' are after the jump.

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First, we set the stage. Eli Manning fires an 8-yard touchdown pass to Kevin Boss to give the Giants a 31-10 lead over the Eagles with 8:23 to go. The five-game losing streak to Philadelphia seems like it is over ... as long as the Giants don't do anything stupid. From there, we know what happened.

Play No. 1

Brent Celek's 65-yard touchdown reception: On the second play from scrimmage after the Giants took a 31-10 lead, the Eagles got the one thing they needed to give them hope -- a quick score.It made the score 31-17 with 7:32 remaining.

My thoughts: First, what is it about the 65-yard thing? A 65-yard score started, and ended, the collapse. Anyway, this is a play that never should have happened and this one is on defensive coordinator Perry Fewell. This was a zone blitz in which Justin Tuck was trying to cover Celek man-to-man all the way down the field, an utterly impossible task for Tuck who was still chasing Celek when he crossed the goal line. Kenny Phillips also deserves from blame for a total whiff on a tackle of Celek at the Giants' 35-yard line.

Play No. 2

David Akers onside kick: The Eagles caught the Giants by surprise here with the onside kick, and recovered it easily at their own 43-yard line with 7:28 to play.

My thoughts: Tom Coughlin fell on his sword here, taking the blame for deciding against having the Giants 'hands' team in the game in anticipation of a possible onside kick. I still maintain this one was on special teams coordinator Tom Quinn, and that it should have cost him his job. How the Giants could not have at least lined up their 'hands' team and tried to take that option away from the Eagles is completely indefensible. The Giants were unprepared, obvious when you watch Duke Calhoun and Gerris Wilkinson peel back as Akers approaches the ball.

Play No. 3

Michael Vick's 35-yard scramble to the Giants 9-yard line: Two plays after the onside kick Vick escaped a blitz and took the ball inside the 10-yard line, setting up the next Eagles' score.

My thoughts: You have to give Vick credit for tremendous athleticism, but this is a play Deon Grant clearly should have made. Grant blitzes untouched up the middle and has Vick nailed, until he inexplicably leaves his feet and tries to go high. Vick ducks under Grant and takes off. All Grant has to do here is stay on his feet and Vick has absolutely nowhere to go.

Play No. 4

Vick's 33-yard scramble on third-and-10 from his own 12-yard line: Still trailing by a touchdown, the Eagles face third-and-10 from their 12-yard line with 2:50 left in the game. The Giants blitz again, but Vick escapes the pocket and runs all the way to the Philadelphia 45.

My thoughts: This was a defensive breakdown by the Giants, specifically an Aaron Ross breakdown. The one thing you cannot do against Vick is allow him to break contain and run to his left. Ross blitzes from Vick's right and has the contain on that side, with linebacker Michael Boley bearing down on Vick from the inside. Ross, inexplicably, jumps to the inside and gives Vick the opportunity to escape.

Play No. 5

DeSean Jackson's game-winning (or losing for the Giants) 65-yard punt return: Jackson muffs a punt on the final play of the game, picks the ball up, breaks the initial wall of Giants defenders and is gone, showboating his way into the end zone to the horror of the Giants and their fans.

My thoughts: Sooooooo many thoughts on this play. It is so easy to blame everything on rookie punter Matt Dodge, who took the brunt of the blame and has, basically, been run out of town because of the play. If Dodge kicks the ball out of bounds, the game goes to overtime, of course, but the blame cannot all go on the punter.

Start with Pro Bowl snapper Zak DeOssie, who chose that moment to give Dodge one of his worst snaps of the season. A ball high and to the right that the mechanically inconsistent Dodge has to leap and reach for, screwing up his technique on the punt and allowing him a clear look at an Eagles rusher coming off the edge in the direction he wants to kick the ball.

Dodge clearly wants the ball to go out of bounds to the right, but mis-hits it. Jackson muffs it and picks it up. What I noticed very clearly in watching the replay, which I did several times, is that the Giants have Jackson surrounded and the player who makes the absolutely fatal mis-step is Deon Grant. Grant is the middle player in the troika of defenders who get to Jackson first. When Jackson starts to his right, Grant over-pursues and leaves the middle of the field wide open. Jackson sees this, cuts back to the middle and is gone. I believe it was DeOssie who was the last player tohave a chance at the tackle, but also over-runs Jackson.

Final thoughts

This was a calamity of preventable mistakes by the Giants. Give the Eagles credit for taking advantage, but it never should have happened. Giants fans can only hope they never live through another experience quite as miserable as that one.

Now, you guys can go ahead and kill me for making you re-live it.

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Well ...

It is ‘mean’ in a sense, but am I supposed to ignore the comeback all week? Felt like I had to.

by Ed Valentine on Sep 21, 2011 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

A bit insensitive

I change the channel whenever it’s on TV.
I plan on not watching the pregame stuff this week. I cringe when the awesome Madden 2012 trailer starts on my xbox.
BBV is my refuge. Why, Ed?!

Seriously, though, I would Manninghams spontaneous fumble. That was the catalyst. And the O’s inability to run a championship drive to closeout the game with four minutes to go.

by rkdo03 on Sep 21, 2011 11:42 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Don't forget poor tackling.

Factology! Belief is ignorance.

by LoNJDTechnology on Sep 21, 2011 12:15 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

me too

anytime they show it on TV I either change the channel or I pause it. Wait a few seconds then skip over the play. I refuse to watch it.

by GMen56-11 on Sep 21, 2011 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow, you could at least give the Eagles a little credit. You guys dominated us for 3 quarters, and it’s as if the only reason you lost is because the Giants beat themselves.

"If I can get you to think twice, I'm in your head."
-Brian Dawkins

"They just tried to do a criss-cross route or something. I just hid a little bit, saw the ball in the air and I do what I do - go get the ball."
-The President CB

Nnamdi, Asante, DRC; The Three Graces...charm, beauty, and creativity.

by immynimmy on Sep 21, 2011 10:23 AM EDT reply actions  

Well

umm, we did beat our self

by nwkiddnj on Sep 21, 2011 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

Did the Giants players switch uniforms and score on themselves?

Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...

Wild_Eagle!

Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.

-Awarded by Number5

Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!

by wild_eagle on Sep 21, 2011 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

w_e

we beat ourselves kikko. the things we did all game we stopped doing. that is the epitome of beating oneself. say what you want, you know it’s the truth.

Yes, I am a Giants fan. Now that we got that out of the way....
IMPEACH DOLAN!!!!
I will not - lose! -Jay Z-
Missing BBVers:
Simms-McConkey - FOUND
Step Up and Make Big Plays - FOUND
Blue Gonz - FOUND
BOBBIBLUE - HE'S BAAACCKKK!!!
cjmulrain.....???

The gangs almost all here!

by wilddre22 on Sep 21, 2011 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

What about the mistakes we made in the first 3 quarters?

"If I can get you to think twice, I'm in your head."
-Brian Dawkins

"They just tried to do a criss-cross route or something. I just hid a little bit, saw the ball in the air and I do what I do - go get the ball."
-The President CB

Nnamdi, Asante, DRC; The Three Graces...charm, beauty, and creativity.

by immynimmy on Sep 21, 2011 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

if they're being made for 3.5 quarters

to me that says that they were the norm, and our implosion was the anamoly. every team beats themselves in a sense. but when you give up a 21 point lead in 8 minutes, because of missed assignments, broken contain, missed tackles, that’s beating yourself.

Yes, I am a Giants fan. Now that we got that out of the way....
IMPEACH DOLAN!!!!
I will not - lose! -Jay Z-
Missing BBVers:
Simms-McConkey - FOUND
Step Up and Make Big Plays - FOUND
Blue Gonz - FOUND
BOBBIBLUE - HE'S BAAACCKKK!!!
cjmulrain.....???

The gangs almost all here!

by wilddre22 on Sep 21, 2011 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

Besides the MNF against the redskins

I’ve never seen Vick dominate a game like that… It wasnt even that the giants beat themselves.. they just couldn’t stop Vick anymore

Michael Vick for MVP

by maximdim on Sep 21, 2011 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

And besides, good teams don’t make mistakes, and if they do they still find ways to win.

"If I can get you to think twice, I'm in your head."
-Brian Dawkins

"They just tried to do a criss-cross route or something. I just hid a little bit, saw the ball in the air and I do what I do - go get the ball."
-The President CB

Nnamdi, Asante, DRC; The Three Graces...charm, beauty, and creativity.

by immynimmy on Sep 21, 2011 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

so the better team always wins?

there’s no luck or circumstantial things that happen?

cuz noone things the 2007 giants were better than the pats… but the giants won.

(ps, i think the eagles were the better team last year… but i disagree w/ the comment)

by Matt dubs on Sep 21, 2011 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

really?

good teams don’t make mistakes?

What sport do you watch? Good teams minimize their mistakes. Good team overcome their mistakes. No team plays the perfect game.

by GMen56-11 on Sep 21, 2011 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree, good teams commit fewer 'unforced errors,' and if they do, often they still find ways to win.

And I would expect you to agree with this part: Not always.

If I am being negative please, don't let it fool you, I am an optimist at heart and I can prove it.

NYG 27 PHI 24

by tommy d. on Sep 21, 2011 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah it wasn't that the Eagles just outplayed you the last quarter right? Couldn't have been that.

Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...

Wild_Eagle!

Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.

-Awarded by Number5

Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!

by wild_eagle on Sep 21, 2011 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

The way we beat ourselves was to play the game without thinking about the clock

If our “brain trust” was together the offense and defense would have played to Run the clock down. That just wasn’t done.

"That's mostly fans who say that kind of stuff and they really don't understand the process. We have good players on the team. We're not looking to go out and make every sexy splash that can be made. We make solid football decisions. That's been happening for a long time," Reese said

by trueblue63 on Sep 21, 2011 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't understand.. Had the Eagles done what you guys did (completely implode) you'd be cheering about how you

beat them, yet because it was your guys who lost you beat yourselves?

Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...

Wild_Eagle!

Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.

-Awarded by Number5

Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!

by wild_eagle on Sep 21, 2011 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Obviously the Eagles outplayed the Giants in the last quarter.

but there is no way on Earth you pull off that kind of comeback without a little help from us. The Eagles played their asses off in those last few minutes, they made the plays they needed to make to win the game. They took advantage of the opportunities given and made the most of them.

But you’re not going to convince me or any other Giants fan that the Eagles’ win was inevitable, that they just completely took over and there was nothing we could have done to stop them because that is simply not true. The Giants had ample opportunity to close out that game and just didn’t get it done. That’s what this post is about.

"Stats are for losers, so you keep looking at stats, and we’ll keep looking at wins." -Raheem Morris

by BleedBigBlue on Sep 21, 2011 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, a little help from you was present,

but without a doubt if the Eagles D didn’t step up you would’ve won, if the O didn’t magically click you would have won… How can you take away from our win because we took advantages of opportunities you presented?

Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...

Wild_Eagle!

Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.

-Awarded by Number5

Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!

by wild_eagle on Sep 21, 2011 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Did you even read what I wrote?
The Eagles played their asses off in those last few minutes, they made the plays they needed to make to win the game. They took advantage of the opportunities given and made the most of them.

How much more credit do you want?

Fact: The Eagles outplayed the Giants by so completely in those last 8 minutes that it negated 52 minutes of solid play. They deserve that recognition and glory.

Fact: If ONE of the three phases had managed step up for the Giants, we’re not even having this conversation.

It seems like you’re looking for someone to say that you would have still come back and won even if the Giants had played perfectly in those final minutes. I don’t think you’ll find that someone over here.

"Stats are for losers, so you keep looking at stats, and we’ll keep looking at wins." -Raheem Morris

by BleedBigBlue on Sep 22, 2011 12:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

That's just how it goes. I would probably do just what you are saying.

I would highlight how we had a miraculous comeback, with occassional mention of how you guys had to implode to help us win.

Actually, there is already another example of this between our teams. September 2006 Giants at Eagles. The game with the 35 yard TD pass to Plax in OT to cap off a ridiculous Giants comeback.

An awful lot had to happen for us to make that fourth quarter comeback that day.

If I am being negative please, don't let it fool you, I am an optimist at heart and I can prove it.

NYG 27 PHI 24

by tommy d. on Sep 21, 2011 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

this

-Plax’s fumble near the endzone that Tim Carter fell on
-Toomer’s TD getting reviewed (toes were just in bounds)
-big penalty on PHI (a kick to the groin) to give Feely 15 more yards on the game tying FG

Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants

by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 21, 2011 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nice job with the specifics

That Plax catch/fumble turned Carter TD I was like, “YEEEAAAHHH, OHHHHHHH SHIIIII, YEEAAAHHHH!!!” All in one sentence…

If I am being negative please, don't let it fool you, I am an optimist at heart and I can prove it.

NYG 27 PHI 24

by tommy d. on Sep 21, 2011 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

one of my Top 5 fav games

remember like it was yesterday… Check out Big Blue84s fanpost for the the NFL Networks’s highlights
http://www.bigblueview.com/2011/9/21/2441100/if-you-are-sick-of-seeing-desean-jacksons-punt-return

Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants

by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 22, 2011 12:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

If i remember correctly, Yes.

But i was high on drugs so im not a reliable source

by nwkiddnj on Sep 21, 2011 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

As opposed to being high on food?

Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...

Wild_Eagle!

Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.

-Awarded by Number5

Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!

by wild_eagle on Sep 21, 2011 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

chill dude

entering dickish range here.

by brisulph on Sep 21, 2011 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm just joking with him man,

no need to get your panties in a bunch.

Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...

Wild_Eagle!

Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.

-Awarded by Number5

Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!

by wild_eagle on Sep 21, 2011 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Despite how ineloquently you put it

My purpose about here is to keep things within the realm of the rules of the blog, and part of that is cutting off conflagrations before they start.

by brisulph on Sep 22, 2011 7:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

Eagles

I give the Eagles tons of credit. They took advantage of the Giants miscues, and Vick’s athleticism really showed up. Really, I was just pointing out on each of those five plays that the Giants could have done something differently to prevent each of them. As for Jackson’s return, great run but it still never should have happened.

by Ed Valentine on Sep 21, 2011 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

Meh…fair enough.

"If I can get you to think twice, I'm in your head."
-Brian Dawkins

"They just tried to do a criss-cross route or something. I just hid a little bit, saw the ball in the air and I do what I do - go get the ball."
-The President CB

Nnamdi, Asante, DRC; The Three Graces...charm, beauty, and creativity.

by immynimmy on Sep 21, 2011 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

c'mon

is ed really going to write an article about all the great plays the eagles players made on a giants blog?

The point of writing the post on the giants blog is to talk about what the giants players did, and did not do. this isnt saying the eagles had nothing to do with it… its just the pov from what the giants could’ve done to prevent it.

there’s a lot of missing plays in the middle there which he doesnt blame the giants (which means the eagles must’ve been doing things well and just outplaying us during that time)

by Matt dubs on Sep 21, 2011 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

I understand that, but to me it was as if the Eaglew weren’t good enough to win. They just got lucky. That was the way I interpreted (or maybe i should say MIS-interpreted it.)

"If I can get you to think twice, I'm in your head."
-Brian Dawkins

"They just tried to do a criss-cross route or something. I just hid a little bit, saw the ball in the air and I do what I do - go get the ball."
-The President CB

Nnamdi, Asante, DRC; The Three Graces...charm, beauty, and creativity.

by immynimmy on Sep 21, 2011 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

They were good enough to win

they took advantage of some errors with good plays of their own. Is there luck in that? Absolutely. However, the fact remains the Eagles did enough to win, Giants did enough to lose. Takes two sides for every game’s outcome.

by brisulph on Sep 21, 2011 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

How do you guys review the 2008 NFC Championship Game against the Cards

"That's mostly fans who say that kind of stuff and they really don't understand the process. We have good players on the team. We're not looking to go out and make every sexy splash that can be made. We make solid football decisions. That's been happening for a long time," Reese said

by trueblue63 on Sep 21, 2011 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Or last weeks loss...

If I am being negative please, don't let it fool you, I am an optimist at heart and I can prove it.

NYG 27 PHI 24

by tommy d. on Sep 21, 2011 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

they were good enough to win

they just didnt play that way for 90% of the game. When that happens your not supposed to win that game. the opposing team has to practically walk of the field all together for you to have a chance to pull that out. But your trying to get us to believe the Eagles are soooo good they didnt have to play the other 52 minutes.

Nobody wins the Superblow in September.
Talk is Cheap! Play the Game!

by 1giantlion on Sep 21, 2011 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes Vick and the Eagles made plays

but most of those plays were made because of poor judgement by the Giant players and coaches.

by GMen56-11 on Sep 21, 2011 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Too play Devils Adocate.. Or just being an Eagle on a giants Blog..

Cant you point to miscues on any touchdown play and say if we do this, that doesnt happen?? Thats football mistakes happen, the question is does the opponent capitilize on them (ie the Falcons last week or the Eagles last yr).

by EagleEyes on Sep 21, 2011 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

There's no doubt the Eagles made plays to win the game

they deserve credit. However, the Giants gave the game away with poor coaching and poor execution.

by GMen56-11 on Sep 21, 2011 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Atlanta: that was a rockem-sockem game but

It was more like squeezing lemon juice on a paper cut for the Eagles.
Last year’s game was an evisceration with permenant internal damage. But we fixed it, we made Dodge think he had a chance at making the team. Waited till the very last moment and then canned him. there’s justice for ya.

‘Expert’ – from the adjective *pert*, meaning ‘lively’ or ‘effective,’ and the prefix *ex-*, meaning ‘not.’

"saying you are right when you’re wrong only gives you the right to be wrong"

An optimist is a person that falls off the empire state building and after 50 floor says so far so good!

by murderhill on Sep 21, 2011 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

how true

Team Greg Jones
Team Jerry Reese

by BigBlueIntervention on Sep 21, 2011 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

Lol - but in my opinion

Dodge is the least culpable of almost anyone in that loss. It never should have come to that and the team still could have covered. Don’t know about you but when the game was tied I pretty much figured the Giants would lose and that was just a fitting bitter end. At least it spared us overtime.

"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning

by blains2000 on Sep 21, 2011 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

+38-31

Factology! Belief is ignorance.

by LoNJDTechnology on Sep 21, 2011 11:12 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Most culpable

is the coaching. They were unprepared to the onside kick. That’s inexcusable. Once the Eagles were lined up for the kick I knew they would recover.

by GMen56-11 on Sep 21, 2011 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Great point GMen

If I am being negative please, don't let it fool you, I am an optimist at heart and I can prove it.

NYG 27 PHI 24

by tommy d. on Sep 21, 2011 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

nice one

If I am being negative please, don't let it fool you, I am an optimist at heart and I can prove it.

NYG 27 PHI 24

by tommy d. on Sep 21, 2011 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Eagles were up by 10 before Vick got injured

If Vick doesn’t get injured, I GUARANTEE the Eagles win.. Even if the Falcons score those two TDs, you can’t tell me Vick couldn’t have done the same, as opposed to Kafka?

That was an injury loss.. I’m sure if Eli Manning goes down, and you need to play your 3rd string QB and you lose the game, it’s understandable

Michael Vick for MVP

by maximdim on Sep 21, 2011 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Totally. Your boys were in control of the game.

If I am being negative please, don't let it fool you, I am an optimist at heart and I can prove it.

NYG 27 PHI 24

by tommy d. on Sep 21, 2011 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

can't disagree

your offense was looking scary good.

"Stats are for losers, so you keep looking at stats, and we’ll keep looking at wins." -Raheem Morris

by BleedBigBlue on Sep 22, 2011 12:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

Umm...because that's what happened

The Phillips missed tackle on Celek is an utter joke as he just falls down and would have forced the iggles to run at least another play there from the 35. Not being ready and not recovering the on-side kick is another. Also the ’Ham inexplicable fumble in 3rd quarter along the sideline on what would have been a first down. I think iggles scored on next play or 2 or 3 plays later.

Plus did you not read, “Give the Eagles credit for taking advantage”?

"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning

by blains2000 on Sep 21, 2011 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

KP went for the INT

then he quickly realized he couldn’t get there. It took him out of the play.

Unprepared on the onside kick was inexcusable. Our coaches were asleep. Mostly TC.

by GMen56-11 on Sep 21, 2011 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well

add a sprinkle of Fewell, a dash of Quinn, and a touch of an OL that can’t get a first down when needed. For the cherry on top, of course there was Dodge. The Giants contributed mightily!

"Beckum is Beckum, it's a hamstring".....Tommy Couglin

by Great Gatsby on Sep 21, 2011 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Did Ed really use the word

“Troika”?

LOL

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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Sep 21, 2011 10:28 AM EDT reply actions  

WHYYYYY????

All I can say really

I remember last year I was out for the first three quarters, with the time difference it was on when I was out for dinner, I came back, was amazed we had such a large lead and from that point on it all went downhill.

Pain is still fresh

by giants_uk on Sep 21, 2011 10:30 AM EDT reply actions  

Someone

sounds like Nancy Kerrigan, we hear you!

"Beckum is Beckum, it's a hamstring".....Tommy Couglin

by Great Gatsby on Sep 21, 2011 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ed

WTF? Like we don’t remember this? I do not see why you rehashed this terrible moment in Giant history. I painfully recall each and every wrong step the Giants did and other than get rid of a few culprits, we still have the same core, mainly, the coaches.

Yes, the E’s deserve credit, they did not win by luck, they totally out played and out coached us. We totally sucked eggs, embarrassing to the Nth degree and never want to think about this again.

So why write about it?

@Did JimmyK turn you to the dark side when you stayed with him? :) @

All the Giants should play like Mark Bavaro.
Tom Quinn Must Go!
It is equally worthless when people are always optimistic or always pessimistic. Either way I take their opinion with a pound of salt because I know they only have one setting. I post my own thoughts, not what either side wants to read.

by UnknownJintsFan on Sep 21, 2011 10:33 AM EDT reply actions  

Damn that sarcasm font!

All the Giants should play like Mark Bavaro.
Tom Quinn Must Go!
It is equally worthless when people are always optimistic or always pessimistic. Either way I take their opinion with a pound of salt because I know they only have one setting. I post my own thoughts, not what either side wants to read.

by UnknownJintsFan on Sep 21, 2011 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think Luck had something to do with us winning that game.

Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...

Wild_Eagle!

Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.

-Awarded by Number5

Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!

by wild_eagle on Sep 21, 2011 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

I knew

There would be guys who would kill me for this post. Your feeling, I’m sure, is shared by many. I’m ducking under my desk now! :-)

by Ed Valentine on Sep 21, 2011 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

Do you realize that you have probably caused a few suicides with that post?

Just kidding. Tough to read that but I wish the Gmen could read it in order to remember what is wrong with them

This game is actually the Giants in a nutshell. Very good team if they play well but they are thier own worst enemy.

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by Thiergow on Sep 21, 2011 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

Debbie Downer

it’s not like we haven’t seen that punt return for the last year on every network, LOL!

"Beckum is Beckum, it's a hamstring".....Tommy Couglin

by Great Gatsby on Sep 21, 2011 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

It's also on the highlight TVs in the NBC tonight studio show

What, there are no highlights from this year?

"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning

by blains2000 on Sep 21, 2011 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

Can they please replace Dungy and Harrison.

Neither of these guys should be on the air.

Now in section 133.

by Last year in Sec 127 on Sep 21, 2011 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

good post, I thought

"Sometimes nothing can be a real cool hand."

by AJ_in_VA on Sep 21, 2011 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

DeOssie got lit up by Avant on that punt return, that was a great block.

Sorry, but I love big blocks like that.

Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...

Wild_Eagle!

Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.

-Awarded by Number5

Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!

by wild_eagle on Sep 21, 2011 10:35 AM EDT reply actions  

Oh I remember all right...

If I am being negative please, don't let it fool you, I am an optimist at heart and I can prove it.

NYG 27 PHI 24

by tommy d. on Sep 21, 2011 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

I mean I'm not trying to rub it in.

I just love that block, it’s amazing.

Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...

Wild_Eagle!

Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.

-Awarded by Number5

Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!

by wild_eagle on Sep 21, 2011 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

I get it. And I like that you liked the block.

So many idiot ‘fans’ just watch the funny shaped brown ball bounce from pretty uniform to pretty uniform. lol

If I am being negative please, don't let it fool you, I am an optimist at heart and I can prove it.

NYG 27 PHI 24

by tommy d. on Sep 21, 2011 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Man, you don't even know.

I love the trench warfare. I absolutely love the wide 9 Philly is running. I love Mudd’s schemes.

I don’t think any man was happier than I was when we got Washburn, and I think I pissed out my intestines when we lured Mudd out of retirement..

I love good blocks, I love OLmen in space, I love WR’s who’ll lay somebody out… Seriously during that punt return I was screaming for Desean, then I saw the block, immediately paused and replayed until I figured out who lit who up.

Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...

Wild_Eagle!

Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.

-Awarded by Number5

Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!

by wild_eagle on Sep 21, 2011 11:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Listen to the unmitigated glee in the voice of the commentator.

All they had to do was show the play and it would have been awful. To hear the mirth in his voice, the joy of piling it on. That man is my enemy. From now to eternity.

‘Expert’ – from the adjective *pert*, meaning ‘lively’ or ‘effective,’ and the prefix *ex-*, meaning ‘not.’

"saying you are right when you’re wrong only gives you the right to be wrong"

An optimist is a person that falls off the empire state building and after 50 floor says so far so good!

by murderhill on Sep 21, 2011 10:39 AM EDT reply actions  

Well....Poop

When its 3rd and long, throw the ball past the marker.

by Fester McDougal on Sep 21, 2011 10:40 AM EDT reply actions  

I would argue that the start was the

Manningham fumble as he fell out of bounds. My feeling of momentum at the moment shifted and never really came back….

When its 3rd and long, throw the ball past the marker.

by Fester McDougal on Sep 21, 2011 10:45 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Manningham

You are correct. I chose to start from the fourth quarter, but the Manningham fumble played a part in it as well.

by Ed Valentine on Sep 21, 2011 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

Kudos

Since this is what I have been pointing to as the momentum changer. Was a horrible fumble with a very unlucky bounce.

by BlueKard on Sep 21, 2011 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

Don't really need to re look at this loss

Being a Giant fan means you have some high high’s and some very low low’s, Last year is last year. Did that loss hurt, but no more than when we fell apart against the 9’er’s in the 4th quarter in the playoffs, or when I watch Flipper Anderson run into the lockroom with the winning TD.

Hat’s off to the Eagles but this is far from the worse loss we have seen.

by Late for Dinner on Sep 21, 2011 10:47 AM EDT reply actions  

manningham

fumbled the ball untouched on the sideline that also helped them get the ball back.

New York Giants 2011.

by redwhitblue88 on Sep 21, 2011 10:47 AM EDT reply actions  

That play actually started the comeback.

I was the first of a whole bunch of wired plays.

Factology! Belief is ignorance.

by LoNJDTechnology on Sep 21, 2011 10:55 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

After I watched it,

I wished I hadn’t too.

Factology! Belief is ignorance.

by LoNJDTechnology on Sep 21, 2011 11:17 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

nope I couldnt watch

i just read Ed’s thoughts on each play

Nobody wins the Superblow in September.
Talk is Cheap! Play the Game!

by 1giantlion on Sep 21, 2011 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

true but didn't the DeSean fumble

that Reid did not challenge, that lead to a Boss TD, happen after the Manningham fumble?

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by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 21, 2011 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

agreed it sucked big time

but the Giants did score again after it. To me, the Celek play was the turning point. it happens like a minute after Boss’s TD, the first of many big plays given up, and Giants had like one first down the rest of the game. Everything went wrong after Brent’s TD

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by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 21, 2011 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

That's right

After Manningham’s fumble, the Giants came and scored again. Now 31-10 with 8+ minutes to go in the game, nobody was saying that Manningham’s fumble opened the flood gates.

Team Ghost: Manningham, Sintim, Beckum, Barden, JPP, Anvil, Ross

''It is a tremendous challenge, and I am looking forward to working with these players and re-establishing the New York Giants' tradition of physically controlling the line of scrimmage. 'We want to win the battle at the line of scrimmage, eliminate the disease of turnovers and control field position of special teams.'' -- Tom Coughlin after being hired by NYG on Jan. 7, 2004

by GhostDini on Sep 21, 2011 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

No Dress.

Jackson didn’t fumble. if Reid had a challenged that played it would’ve been reversed.

Factology! Belief is ignorance.

by LoNJDTechnology on Sep 21, 2011 11:19 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

thats my point

it was called a fumble on the field, but it clearly was not a fumble, Reid took out the flag then but it away. That gave the Giants the ball, and a few plays later, Boss scores. Then it went way down hill.

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by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 21, 2011 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

*but = put it away

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by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 21, 2011 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ok, ok. My bad.

Factology! Belief is ignorance.

by LoNJDTechnology on Sep 21, 2011 11:34 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

its all good

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by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 21, 2011 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

showboating his way into the end zone to the horror of the Giants and their fans.

Lol. Ed, must you be so dramatic?

Factology! Belief is ignorance.

by LoNJDTechnology on Sep 21, 2011 10:53 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Literally sucked the wind out of me

I was hosting people at my house. When D10 scored everyone in my house was quiet; no talking; no headshaking; no reaction because they all felt so bad for me. Mouth open, catatonic for minutes afterwards.

Definitely the most painful gmen loss to me and I was at that 49ers game in 03.

by rkdo03 on Sep 21, 2011 11:54 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Ed is on point with his expression

I wad looking for something to throw but could not find anything. At least you had shoulders to lran on.

Factology! Belief is ignorance.

by LoNJDTechnology on Sep 21, 2011 12:28 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Thanks for that

I WAS having a good morning… way to piss in my corn flakes, lol

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by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 21, 2011 10:54 AM EDT reply actions  

This game makes me think about Napoleon's campaign in Russia

The French army dominated Russians until the point they reached Moscow but let the Russian take advantages of them by burning down cities in order to starve the French. Actually that was the strategy of the Russians all along: let the French get deep into the country and starve them as the winter approached.
This ended by a retreat and the crossing of the Berezina river which was a debacle.

DeSean Jackson PR = the Berezina battle

I’m not ready to believe yet that the Eagles let the Giants dominate them for 3 quarters to humiliate them after.

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by Thiergow on Sep 21, 2011 10:55 AM EDT reply actions  

You are Awesome!

That’s a pretty good analogy. It’s posts like this one that keep me coming back here daily.

I agree with your last statement though. It’s highly unlikely that they would let us get that big of a lead intentionally. They had no way of knowing for sure that we could be counted on to completely melt down that way.

Ugh! even after 11 months it still feels like a kick to the groin.

"Stats are for losers, so you keep looking at stats, and we’ll keep looking at wins." -Raheem Morris

by BleedBigBlue on Sep 21, 2011 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

But

didnt your lead come from fumbles/mistackles???

by EagleEyes on Sep 21, 2011 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ah HA!

It just clicked for me.

Eli keeps saying “we just need to play better football” but it’s not happening because those F***ing EAGLES have stolen the “play better football” ON/OFF switch and won’t give it back!

"Stats are for losers, so you keep looking at stats, and we’ll keep looking at wins." -Raheem Morris

by BleedBigBlue on Sep 21, 2011 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rope a dope?

"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning

by blains2000 on Sep 21, 2011 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hey, Ed

can you post the PFF numbers of Monday’s game when they release it? Much appreciated.

Team Greg Jones
Team Jerry Reese

by BigBlueIntervention on Sep 21, 2011 10:59 AM EDT reply actions  

Really?

do we really need to watch them………… again?

by GMen56-11 on Sep 21, 2011 11:00 AM EDT reply actions  

Let's forward that post to the Gmen

They should definetely read it.

(I realize I haven’t actually read it, just scrolled down knowing what Ed was talking about…)

New York Giants French blog (with croissants and wine)

by Thiergow on Sep 21, 2011 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

if you dont think they're watching this game as motivation

your sadly mistaken. It might hurt, but it should make them mad. Get them fired up & focused for the upcoming game.

Nobody wins the Superblow in September.
Talk is Cheap! Play the Game!

by 1giantlion on Sep 21, 2011 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

ED!!!

Are you crazy? WHY are you making us re-live that horror? Seriously…I remember it like it was yesterday…I literally cried!! Not a week goes by when someone doesn’t actually mention it when I talk about the Giants. Unfortunately, this game will live on in infamy forever!! UGH!!

Giants fan since October 24, 1971! I was 4 days old and my father laid me down in the crook of his arm on the floor to watch the Giants/Eagles game...been hooked ever since!!!

by rebecca5481 on Sep 21, 2011 11:02 AM EDT reply actions  

I was at that game

everyone in the stands was like: Philly has to kick this onsides if they want to win. For some reason TC did not do the same math. Put the hands team out, we likely win the game.

by DukBudr on Sep 21, 2011 11:04 AM EDT reply actions  

I think it's related to #1

At that point, TC is re-thinking the entire rest of he game.

It was an awful mistake by Fewell, and is my opinion his weakness. He believes in the schemes more than what’s going on in game. Plenty of examples. The great DCs (like Spags), adapt their plan to the situations. We built the lead one way, and they had to keep bringing pressure. But a zone blitz is a high risk high reward option. Especially against a mobile QB. We didn’t need to take risks there.

(it’s still on TC/TQ for #2, no way either of them should have let that happen)

"That's mostly fans who say that kind of stuff and they really don't understand the process. We have good players on the team. We're not looking to go out and make every sexy splash that can be made. We make solid football decisions. That's been happening for a long time," Reese said

by trueblue63 on Sep 21, 2011 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

Fewell is stuborn

like TC. He believes something should work. It takes him too long to waiver from that belief.

by GMen56-11 on Sep 21, 2011 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree TC is inflexible

And he’s hired coordinators that are inflexible

"That's mostly fans who say that kind of stuff and they really don't understand the process. We have good players on the team. We're not looking to go out and make every sexy splash that can be made. We make solid football decisions. That's been happening for a long time," Reese said

by trueblue63 on Sep 21, 2011 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was also at the game

I was on the 50 behind the Eagles bench. Before Akers went on the field for the kickoff he had a conference with Ried and another coach (I’m assuming the ST coach). If the group I was sitting with saw this how did the Giants coaching staff in the booth miss it? They were right above our group.

by GMen56-11 on Sep 21, 2011 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

*uncontrolably

I'd like to thank the good Lord for making me a Yankee fan.

by NJsandman on Sep 21, 2011 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

*into a shoe

Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...

Wild_Eagle!

Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.

-Awarded by Number5

Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!

by wild_eagle on Sep 21, 2011 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

*that I then slip my foot into

If I am being negative please, don't let it fool you, I am an optimist at heart and I can prove it.

NYG 27 PHI 24

by tommy d. on Sep 21, 2011 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good man, I couldn't pass up this, had to give you props.

Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...

Wild_Eagle!

Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.

-Awarded by Number5

Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!

by wild_eagle on Sep 21, 2011 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Much obliged. (as I lightly tug on the brim of my cap.) :-)

If I am being negative please, don't let it fool you, I am an optimist at heart and I can prove it.

NYG 27 PHI 24

by tommy d. on Sep 21, 2011 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, I like how you threw in the action sequence.

Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...

Wild_Eagle!

Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.

-Awarded by Number5

Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!

by wild_eagle on Sep 21, 2011 11:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Funny but the most important play was the first one

It demonstrated a lack of respect for the clock.

At that point, the Eagles were facing growing psychological pressure. Making them grind downfield in 8 or 9 plays, all in bounds, would have bled 3:00 or so off the clock. Then it’s obvious that an onside kick is needed, so not forcing the Eagles to score slow and using a gimmick defense set everything else up.

By letting them score so quickly it gave them adrenaline and put the pressure on the Giants.

It’s a classic example of letting a wounded foe off the mat.

"That's mostly fans who say that kind of stuff and they really don't understand the process. We have good players on the team. We're not looking to go out and make every sexy splash that can be made. We make solid football decisions. That's been happening for a long time," Reese said

by trueblue63 on Sep 21, 2011 11:05 AM EDT reply actions  

You missed the key one

As I recall, the one thing that changed the momentum of the game was Manningham hot dogging his reception and fumbling when going out of bounds. The Giants had a first down and were driving. The Eagles would never have gotten so inspired.

by Babu on Sep 21, 2011 11:06 AM EDT reply actions  

Play 2

was a monumental failure by the Giants coaching staff. I was at the game on the 50 yard line behind the Eagles bench. Even I saw Andy Reid, Akers and another coach having a conversation. How did the coaches in the booth miss it?

by GMen56-11 on Sep 21, 2011 11:12 AM EDT reply actions  

BOO!!

nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!

MAKE IT WORK!!!

by nywins42 on Sep 21, 2011 11:15 AM EDT reply actions  

I figured I would have to check out

ulitmatenyg to see bad news like this today

I have not yet begun to procrastinate

by TheWenz on Sep 21, 2011 11:26 AM EDT reply actions  

This was a zone blitz in which Justin Tuck was trying to cover Celek man-to-man all the way down the field, an utterly impossible task for Tuck

This is a reason all of us Eagles fans are ecstatic that Jim Washburn is our DL coach now, it pissed us off when we saw Trent Cole in coverage. It makes absolutely no sense to have your best DLineman in coverage. That said I wouldn’t mind Fewell call a couple zone blitzes that puts Tuck in coverage this sunday

by The Legend on Sep 21, 2011 11:29 AM EDT reply actions  

Well Tuck did his Job, Kenny Phillips didnt

Lets look at the facts, Tuck bracketed him into the exact space where we wanted him so KP can smash the TE. He simply missed the tackle, dont gimme the Tuck in coverage stuff, that wasnt the issue.

Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!

Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related

by Blue Gates on Sep 21, 2011 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

understood

but you don’t drop your best DLman into zone coverage. That’s akin to dropping your cleanup batter to 9th in the order.

by GMen56-11 on Sep 21, 2011 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Or that KP was going for the pick.

Someone used that excuse too.

Factology! Belief is ignorance.

by LoNJDTechnology on Sep 21, 2011 12:31 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Even if Tuck did his job he shouldn’t be in coverage he’s your guys best DE, would you rather have him covering Brent Celek or going after Mike Vick? I know I want Trent Cole going after Eli instead of dropping into zone coverage

by The Legend on Sep 21, 2011 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

This

KP needs to light him up there.

"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning

by blains2000 on Sep 21, 2011 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree with this.

Tuck isn’t a guy who should be further than 5 yards down the field, Phillips should have picked up Celek but both players left to much of a zone and KP wiffed.

Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...

Wild_Eagle!

Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.

-Awarded by Number5

Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!

by wild_eagle on Sep 21, 2011 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

*whiffed

Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...

Wild_Eagle!

Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.

-Awarded by Number5

Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!

by wild_eagle on Sep 21, 2011 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

The mistake wasn't on the field in #1

It was the defense getting called

No reason, even if they get 6 first downs, and hurry it up a bit, you still take 2 minutes off the clock, it changes how the rest of the game plays out

There are times for risks and times for low risk. I think 21 up under 10 minutes to play defines the time for a more conservative defense.

"That's mostly fans who say that kind of stuff and they really don't understand the process. We have good players on the team. We're not looking to go out and make every sexy splash that can be made. We make solid football decisions. That's been happening for a long time," Reese said

by trueblue63 on Sep 21, 2011 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

I completely agree, your DC should have kept it simple and not taken chances.. But hindsight is 20/20

had Tuck intercepted that ball or Phillips intercepted it then you’re all declaring him God.

Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...

Wild_Eagle!

Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.

-Awarded by Number5

Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!

by wild_eagle on Sep 21, 2011 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ed, I really appreciate the analysis. Sounds like these five key plays had only little to do with execution. DeOssie’s snap was an execution mistake. Everyone had thought the same about Dodge’s punt, but now it seems like it wasn’t his fault, he was put in that situation by the snap. I guess Phillips’ missed tackles was also an execution mistake. Then there were two coaching mistakes, Fewell’s defense that put Tuck on Celek and of course the failure to prepare for the onsides kick. How stupid was that! And then the mental mistakes, of which there were three. Two belonged to Deon Grant and one to Aaron Ross. You really gotta wonder how a vet like Grant could make those mistakes. I think maybe he was playing with too much anxiety and over-reacted. Still, the coaches play a role when players make mental mistakes. To some degree, it means the players haven’t been properly prepared.

by hopeforthefuture3 on Sep 21, 2011 11:29 AM EDT reply actions  

honestly

this game doesn’t bother me as much as others i’ve seen. i don’t know what it is, but i don’t get vomitously angry when i see this posted or talked about. i get sick of it, cause it was a long time ago, must it be bought up every chance given, but it doesn’t bother me half as much as say, 2002 against the Niners did. i can still remember my cousin calling me at halftime that game talking about who we’re gonna face next week. Jinx.

Yes, I am a Giants fan. Now that we got that out of the way....
IMPEACH DOLAN!!!!
I will not - lose! -Jay Z-
Missing BBVers:
Simms-McConkey - FOUND
Step Up and Make Big Plays - FOUND
Blue Gonz - FOUND
BOBBIBLUE - HE'S BAAACCKKK!!!
cjmulrain.....???

The gangs almost all here!

by wilddre22 on Sep 21, 2011 11:31 AM EDT reply actions  

my mom called my brother

and said the same thing, at that moment , Shockey dropped the TD…. add that to the jinx list

Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants

by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 21, 2011 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

yeah i no longer take phone calls on Sundays

:))

Yes, I am a Giants fan. Now that we got that out of the way....
IMPEACH DOLAN!!!!
I will not - lose! -Jay Z-
Missing BBVers:
Simms-McConkey - FOUND
Step Up and Make Big Plays - FOUND
Blue Gonz - FOUND
BOBBIBLUE - HE'S BAAACCKKK!!!
cjmulrain.....???

The gangs almost all here!

by wilddre22 on Sep 21, 2011 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

The playoff game was brutal

"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning

by blains2000 on Sep 21, 2011 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

#1A

Isn’t this the game were Eli dove head first after a run and fumble the ball? He did that previously. Can’t he learn from his mistakes? …and they call Manningham dumb????

Anyone who thinks the Giants had a chance in OT are crazy. The Eagls had all the mo. The end of game punt return put the Giants out of their misery without dragging things into OT.That’s why all the Dodge bashing is nonsense.

by midniteclyde on Sep 21, 2011 11:32 AM EDT reply actions  

no, he fumbled

He holds that ball, we get the 1st down, & we run 3 more minutes off the clock.

Nobody wins the Superblow in September.
Talk is Cheap! Play the Game!

by 1giantlion on Sep 21, 2011 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

im wrong

i got confused. that was the sunday night game

Nobody wins the Superblow in September.
Talk is Cheap! Play the Game!

by 1giantlion on Sep 21, 2011 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah

when Eli fumbled in the Sunday night game, they were still down a TD

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by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 21, 2011 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

nope

that was the sunday night game in Nov at Philly

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by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 21, 2011 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

he did it in 2009 too

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by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 21, 2011 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

SHIT

Domenik Hixon torn ACL done for the year.

Team Greg Jones
Team Jerry Reese

by BigBlueIntervention on Sep 21, 2011 11:32 AM EDT reply actions  

Link?

I was looking for one?

"Beckum is Beckum, it's a hamstring".....Tommy Couglin

by Great Gatsby on Sep 21, 2011 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

it's on Twitter

Paul Dottino and others have reported it

I'd like to thank the good Lord for making me a Yankee fan.

by NJsandman on Sep 21, 2011 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Leaves me out

I don’t tweet tweet tweet, bummer.

"Beckum is Beckum, it's a hamstring".....Tommy Couglin

by Great Gatsby on Sep 21, 2011 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

i don't tweet much either

i just use it to follow people for the most part

I'd like to thank the good Lord for making me a Yankee fan.

by NJsandman on Sep 21, 2011 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

Of course

I guess we’ll find out if Jernigan’s a keeper. At least Cruz made a catch last week.

Blue is the color of melancholy and honesty
Green is the color of inexperience, envy and nausea.

by roguetrader on Sep 21, 2011 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

That really bites...geezus

They are dropping like flies..2010 all over again..

"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."

by Bobbiblue on Sep 21, 2011 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah I banned myself for eight months..needed a break

"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."

by Bobbiblue on Sep 21, 2011 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

I really hope it's not another Tyree situation.

Fantastic catch, then gone forever. Hixon’s a good guy.

Blue is the color of melancholy and honesty
Green is the color of inexperience, envy and nausea.

by roguetrader on Sep 21, 2011 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

not surprised

he walked it off the last time it happened to.

i had a feeling he’d miss this week, but didn’t think lightning would strike twice.

Yes, I am a Giants fan. Now that we got that out of the way....
IMPEACH DOLAN!!!!
I will not - lose! -Jay Z-
Missing BBVers:
Simms-McConkey - FOUND
Step Up and Make Big Plays - FOUND
Blue Gonz - FOUND
BOBBIBLUE - HE'S BAAACCKKK!!!
cjmulrain.....???

The gangs almost all here!

by wilddre22 on Sep 21, 2011 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yea

everybody walks off their ACL injury these days.

Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!

Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related

by Blue Gates on Sep 21, 2011 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

WOW

We dont need to fake injuries with real ones happening at this rate.

Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!

Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related

by Blue Gates on Sep 21, 2011 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

This damn post has me replaying "Memories" from the old Love story movie...

Only I place BAD in front of it…“Bad Memories from the corner of my couch…watching Jackson reach the end-zoooooooooooooonneeeeeeee!!!!!!!!! made something go limp in my zippered pouch!!!!!!!!!…….”

"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."

by Bobbiblue on Sep 21, 2011 11:32 AM EDT reply actions  

Hixon

torn ACL…

I'd like to thank the good Lord for making me a Yankee fan.

by NJsandman on Sep 21, 2011 11:33 AM EDT reply actions  

just heard

it just keeps getting worse.

by GMen56-11 on Sep 21, 2011 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Where did you see this?

All the Giants should play like Mark Bavaro.
Tom Quinn Must Go!
It is equally worthless when people are always optimistic or always pessimistic. Either way I take their opinion with a pound of salt because I know they only have one setting. I post my own thoughts, not what either side wants to read.

by UnknownJintsFan on Sep 21, 2011 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

just f*ckin great

JJ needs to be active now, they need fresh bodies out there

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by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 21, 2011 11:36 AM EDT reply actions  

Am I the......

only one that saw that blatant block in the back on the kickoff return. Hate to nitpick but that was a bad miscall. Still hate to watch that dang return, makes me sick to my stomach.

by rbman3 on Sep 21, 2011 11:43 AM EDT reply actions  

It's time for players to step the F up!

all these people we keep talking about – Cruz, JJ12, Stokely, Thomas…it’s time to do some gat damn thing! no more excuses, no more lies. what do we have, lay it on the table, and go forward from here.

and Becks and Barden, the injuries are getting old. step your game up, cause it’s go time for this team. anybody that doesn’t contribute can sit in the back of the bus!

Yes, I am a Giants fan. Now that we got that out of the way....
IMPEACH DOLAN!!!!
I will not - lose! -Jay Z-
Missing BBVers:
Simms-McConkey - FOUND
Step Up and Make Big Plays - FOUND
Blue Gonz - FOUND
BOBBIBLUE - HE'S BAAACCKKK!!!
cjmulrain.....???

The gangs almost all here!

by wilddre22 on Sep 21, 2011 11:45 AM EDT reply actions  

Hixon

was one of the guys I was pulling for. Great kid. this is terrible.

…and yes, I saw the block in the back. Collected Deon and Chase?

by midniteclyde on Sep 21, 2011 12:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Sorry Ed...

   I don’t do nostalgic trips to the junk yard to view the wreckage of cars I’ve been accidents with, nor look up old girlfriends from high school to revisit the disasters we endured then, and I’m skipping this entire thread as it’s old news, bad news and concerns a team that we once had and who we once were. It’s not what we are and have now, and the dustbin of history seems like a better place for it.

by Cranky50 on Sep 21, 2011 1:26 PM EDT reply actions  

Hixon torn ACL done for the season.

I can’t take anymore of this

If I am being negative please, don't let it fool you, I am an optimist at heart and I can prove it.

NYG 23 STL 14

by tommy d. on Sep 21, 2011 1:30 PM EDT reply actions  

Deon Grant didn't leave his feet for no reason

That play was amazing by Vick. If you watch closely, he lifts his left hand up high like he’s about to throw it (showing Deon the ball). Then once Deon Grant jumps up to try and block the pass, he ducks to his right making him whiff completely and runs ho-hum for 30 yards.

by phi7 on Sep 21, 2011 1:41 PM EDT reply actions  

The commentary by the NFL Network gang was Priceless

1. On manninghams abuse of Patterson
Rich: It was Dimitri Patterson’s birthday in the First qrt
Deon: It’s ya birthday we gonna have a party’

2.The Manningham Fumble
Deon: Just like he was shooting dice.

3. The Onsides Kick
Coach Steve: Uhhthatsa gusty call, HE FOOLED EVERYBODY.

4. the duck under an Run by Vick
Deon:OHH, Houdini or Vick?? David Blaine or Vick!!
Coach: SLIDE!!

5. the Scramble from Vick on 3rd and 10 from our 12
Rich: Vick, Ohhmy goodness gracious!
Deon: Vick rolling to his left, We know these things. That yellow line, he know those things.

6. Vicks Scramble up the middle on your 42
Deon: DO WHAT YOU DO MIKE VICK!

7. Vicks Game tying td pass to Maclin
Rich:ohh
Coach:ohh
Deon:ohh
Coach:THATS WHAT HE DO!

8. Desean’s Walk-Off
Rich: All you have to do is Punt it out of bounds
Coach:Punt it out of bounds.
Rich:Thats all you have to do
Coach: WELL DO IT PUNT IT OUT OF BOUNDS.
Deon: Hes Saying GIVE IT TO ME IF YOU WANT TOO.
Deon:WHATS THE QUICKEST WAY TO GET HOME RICH?
Rich: STRAIGHT TOO THA HOUSE!!!!!
Rich: And then he does this
Coach: WHERE ARE YOU GOING?
Deon: (Laughs) Run the Clock out!!
Rich: The Clock was ran out 5 mins ago!!
Deon: HE WAS POSIN FOR DA PICTURES!!!

Priceless

by EagleEyes on Sep 21, 2011 1:48 PM EDT reply actions  

Let's not forget...

The COMPLETE inability of the offense to run out the clock.
All 5 points above are right on the money but one solid drive… even without a score eliminates everything.

by Metalgarn on Sep 22, 2011 11:49 AM EDT reply actions  

I don't even care how many times I see the highlights from that game...

I have permanently removed it from my memory. I don’t even know what all you guys are talking about.

by PaulieKnucklez1 on Sep 22, 2011 12:35 PM EDT reply actions  

I remember being at this game with a (Packer fan) friend of mine…

I said to him after the Boss TD, realizing that we’d be missing our early train home from Secaucus, “we’ll be staying til the end.”
My memories of the rest of that game remain vivid in my mind.

by njny on Sep 28, 2011 9:42 AM EDT reply actions  

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