'Kudos & Wet Willies:' Giants Never Make It Easy Edition
by Ed Valentine on Sep 20, 2011 10:24 AM EDT
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Shortly before kickoff Monday night I did a radio spot on WSIA-FM previewing the New York Giants-St. Louis Rams matchup. The host of the show, Anthony Pierno, asked me for a prediction and I said the Giants would win -- but that they would make it much more difficult than it had to be.
It took just one drive to prove me correct. As soon as Eli Manning was picked off by Rams safety Quintin Mikell, killing a scoring opportunity, you had to know that Monday was not going to be as easy for the Giants as it should have been.
Isn't this the way it always is with the New York Giants, though? Go back decades and you realize this franchise has never had 'pretty' teams. The Giants have never done things the easy way. Shoot, even in the three Super Bowls the franchise has won the Giants trailed at one point or another in all of those games. In 2007, there was a point in the season where it looked like the Giants would not even make the playoffs.
So, Giants fans should be used to this. They should be used to ugly games won by defensive scores and ugly, inconsistent -- but opportunistic -- offense. Sure, it would be nice to see the Giants offense function like a well-oiled machine -- to see Eli Manning suddenly morph into Tom Brady or Drew Brees.That, though, is not going to happen.
What we saw Monday night is, probably, what we are going to see a lot of this season. Why wouldn't it be? If you have been watching the Giants long enough you know that what you saw Monday night is what you've always seen.
This is a team -- and a franchise -- that seemingly never does anything the easy way.
Now, on with the 'Kudos & Wet Willies.' Oh, and a quick admission here. Since my DVR spit up on me Monday night I am working without the benefit of being able to review the game a second time.
Kudos to ...
Domenik Hixon: What an unbelievable, athletic catch by Hixon to haul in a 22-yard touchdown pass from Manning near the end of the first half. Receivers have to make plays for Manning (see David Tyree and Plaxico Burress), and Hixon did. The play changed the tone of a game in which St. Louis had controlled the temp despite being behind on the scoreboard.
Giants' Red Zone Defense: Four trips inside the red zone for St. Louis, only one touchdown. The first half stand from the one-yard line was a huge turning point. Of course, some of this had to do with St. Louis's own ineptitude, but give the Giants credit.
Giants' Run Defense: The Giants stink defending the pass, but they definitely don't stink defending the run. The Rams ran 19 times for just 59 yards, and there really were not places for Rams' backs to go very often.
Justin Tuck: Five tackles, 1.5 sacks. What is there to say about how hard -- and how well -- this guy plays? Welcome back, Justin!
Kenny Phillips: The secondary might be struggling around him, but KP is playing at a very high level through two games. Four tackles Monday and some really great work in run support up in the box near the line of scrimmage. Extra 'kudos' also for running down Danario Alexander at the one-yard line when Aaron Ross and Deon Grant didn't bother to touch him down. That saved the Giants four points, and maybe a whole lot more than that.
Antrel Rolle: Nine tackles and a forced fumble. Like KP, his run support seemed excellent.
Michael Boley: A really alert play on the dropped lateral by Cadillac Williams. You see the Giants work on that over and over in practice, but how many times have you seen defensive players just let the ball sit on the ground? 'Scoop and score' is the drill, and that is what Boley did.
Ahmad Bradshaw and Brandon Jacobs: Not great numbers running for either guy. Bradshaw had 15 carries, 59 yards and Jacobs 16 carries for 50 yards. Both guys ran hard and made plays when they were there, however. Bradshaw had five pass receptions for 45 yards, including one on a fourth-down. Nice to see the Giants get Bradshaw into space. Also nice to see Jacobs carry the ball more often than Bradshaw. I will have to go back and look, but I doubt that happened at all last season.
Hakeem Nicks: When he goes up for a ball, or reaches out for one, he is simply a man among boys.
Wet Willies to ...
Aaron Ross: Please, please, please get healthy as soon as possible Prince Amukamara. No other way to put it other than Ross was AWFUL on Monday night. The Rams made it obvious right from the start they were going to pick on Ross at every opportunity, and he had no answers. Then he sulked on the bench when he was finally pulled briefly in the second half. Aaron, if you could get within 15 yards of the guy you are allegedly covering you wouldn't be on the bench.
The Giants pass defense stinks, there really isn't another way to put it. Corey Webster can't shut anybody down, either, and Antrel Rolle struggles covering receivers from the slot. Ross is the primary culprit, though. I hate to be this harsh, but Monday night it was sort of like playing 10-on-11 every time St. Louis passed the ball. It was like Ross wasn't even there. And failing to touch down Alexander on that long first-quarter play (Deon grant is also guilty here) made a bad night worse.
Kwillie to ...
Eli Manning: An awful 2-for-11 start, a much better 16-for-18 finish. Manning has to be better if the Giants are going to beat good teams. He can't misread coverages or underthrow guys running wide open down the field if the Giants are going to win games against good teams.
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Kudos to this
And notice how it not only hits the intern in the face, but it ricochets and hits the camerman too.
"Winning is the most important thing in my life, after breathing. Breathing first, winning next."
by Larry Soprano on Sep 20, 2011 10:28 AM EDT reply actions 11 recs
never
gets old….. love it
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 20, 2011 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions
that just looks so intentional ..
Team Monster:
JPP
"Da Real" Scott
Greg JONES
Herzlich
Paysinger
Jacquin Williams
and SASH
I can't figure out
what he was throwing at… the banner, the wall, the guy’s face????
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 20, 2011 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions
I heard he suffers from the same problem Jacobs did...
when he was throwing his helmet “at the bench” during the Colts game. Ball just “stuck to his hand”
nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!
MAKE IT WORK!!!
lol- makes sense
Team Monster:
JPP
"Da Real" Scott
Greg JONES
Herzlich
Paysinger
Jacquin Williams
and SASH
He actually hit two guys.
Factology! Belief is ignorance.
by LoNJDTechnology on Sep 20, 2011 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions
yeap, the cameraman too
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 20, 2011 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions
Yup, 2 for 1
Extra points for degree of difficulty
"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning
prob. the Monday Night Football banner
Team Monster:
JPP
"Da Real" Scott
Greg JONES
Herzlich
Paysinger
Jacquin Williams
and SASH
the wanner's face
Yes, I am a Giants fan. Now that we got that out of the way....
IMPEACH DOLAN!!!!
I will not - lose! -Jay Z-
Missing BBVers:
Simms-McConkey - FOUND
Step Up and Make Big Plays - FOUND
Blue Gonz - FOUND
BOBBIBLUE - HE'S BAAACCKKK!!!
cjmulrain.....???
The gangs almost all here!
okay...
thought this was funny when i first saw it…and on a video i watched earlier…
but as a GIF over and over and over again…this has caused uncontrollable laughter.
just amazing….that guy must feel really cool today.
In Prust we Trust
we need to get cam newton before the panther’s get off lock down cause eli cant (QB) by hisselfall this saeson also we need plax back to cause smith is the best (WR) we got nd plax cant help smith nd the team out….. do that nd we have a a shout at the superblow
by Master Ov Brutality on Sep 20, 2011 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions
This years don't tase me?
Win ugly.
by tito (eight and oh) on Sep 20, 2011 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions
Camera Intern Learned the First Rule of Filming
Protect yourself at all times. Haven’t seen someone so helpless since… Well since Floyd Mayweather’s sucker punch on Saturday night
i have to believe this was a mistake by boley
and honestly i dont know why we are celebrating this. right when he did this i said, “oh boy here comes the flag” maybe a ref didnt see it, idk, but thought he was getting an unsportsmanlike conduct penalty for this. at the very least boley needs to find this guy, apologize and maybe give him a signed ball.
"Am I not destroying my enemies when I make friends of them?"
-Abraham Lincoln
"Let me explain something to you. Um, I am not 'Mr. Lebowski'. You're Mr. Lebowski. I'm the Dude. So that's what you call me. You know, that or, uh, His Dudeness, or uh, Duder, or El Duderino if you're not into the whole brevity thing."
-Jeffery Lebowski, The Dude
by sweatyguido on Sep 20, 2011 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions
I guess
Boley won’t be the backup QB anytime soon, LOL!
"Beckum is Beckum, it's a hamstring".....Tommy Couglin
by Great Gatsby on Sep 20, 2011 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Larry never disappoints with a timely or appropriate video or pic.
If I am being negative please, don't let it fool you, I am an optimist at heart and I can prove it.
NYG 23 STL 14
can we get a GIF of Grant's "injury" too?
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 20, 2011 10:32 AM EDT reply actions
That was shameful
Looked like the Italian national soccer team
by rkdo03 on Sep 20, 2011 10:59 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I thought it was Brasil's women's soccer team against our women's team
Team Monster:
JPP
"Da Real" Scott
Greg JONES
Herzlich
Paysinger
Jacquin Williams
and SASH
The man....
had to do what he had to do. It worked. If it was another team that would be pathetic. God job Grant
Yup i was wondering why they didnt pull that stunt 3 plays earlier
Saw that coming from a mile away, they had us on our heels.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
Could they fine him and/or the Giants for that?
Seems like it really screws with the integrity of the game; the Giants could have simply called a time out but didn’t. It was clearly intentional given that both he and another guy (can’t remember who) dropped at the same time, so you wonder if the order came from the bench. I would certainly support fining them, as this really has no place in the game at all.
by dontstopbelieving on Sep 20, 2011 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions
They use to throw flags for delay of game when they thought a player was faking an injury.
I was surprised that they didn’t throw one last night.
Factology! Belief is ignorance.
by LoNJDTechnology on Sep 20, 2011 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, why didn't they just call timeout?
Apparently the NFL won’t fine anyone unless they admit to faking. So sez the twitterverse.
"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning
the best part is that 2 players both collapsed at the same time. Then 1 of them jumped up real quick and was suddenly ok.
by Ualtar on Sep 20, 2011 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'd say at least a half a Kudos to Hynocerous...
he was alright last night too.
Hynoski
If anything I would have put him in the ‘kwillie’ category. He whiffed on a couple of blocks, too. This is where it hurts that I can’t go back and review the game.
by Ed Valentine on Sep 20, 2011 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions
He whiffed on a couple of blocks, too
BIG TIME
nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!
MAKE IT WORK!!!
by nywins42 on Sep 20, 2011 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yea he did
on some important ones too but he did excellent on a few other blocks.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
He did but...
he is showing improvement and should develop nicely as the season goes on!
by oldschoolblue64 on Sep 20, 2011 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions
For sure
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
True
the worst culprit was that 4th and 1. But on Jacobs’ TD run he absolutely pancaked his man in the hole and kept it open. Perfect block on that play. And a 9 yard catch to boot? Gravy.
Your First Ever Pinstripe Bowl Champions- The Syracuse Orange
by bigbluethruandthru on Sep 20, 2011 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions
good point
soft hands, looks real smooth out in the flat. Hopefully KG remembers that on occasion. Ain’t no stone-hands Hedgecock
Yup
I liked the catch and run for a change. Hynicerous is getting betting at blocking, still has more to learn but being able to receive opens things up. One more person to cover.
All the Giants should play like Mark Bavaro.
Tom Quinn Must Go!
It is equally worthless when people are always optimistic or always pessimistic. Either way I take their opinion with a pound of salt because I know they only have one setting. I post my own thoughts, not what either side wants to read.
by UnknownJintsFan on Sep 20, 2011 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions
if he had 30 fingers
he still couldn’t catch.
Yes, I am a Giants fan. Now that we got that out of the way....
IMPEACH DOLAN!!!!
I will not - lose! -Jay Z-
Missing BBVers:
Simms-McConkey - FOUND
Step Up and Make Big Plays - FOUND
Blue Gonz - FOUND
BOBBIBLUE - HE'S BAAACCKKK!!!
cjmulrain.....???
The gangs almost all here!
Was he pregnant?
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Plus his shoulder pads were huge
he could barely lift his hands above his waist. No excuse but still.
"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning
I said that when he cought that pass.
Somewhere, Madison Hedgecock is taking notes.
Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
SASH
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 20, 2011 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions
honestly...
on that Jacobs 4th and 1 run…it seems like some invisible defender just up and took out his legs….i swear i dont remember anyone touching him yet he just falls forward. maybe the only play i saw where he really failed.
then again i could have missed something.
In Prust we Trust
we need to get cam newton before the panther’s get off lock down cause eli cant (QB) by hisselfall this saeson also we need plax back to cause smith is the best (WR) we got nd plax cant help smith nd the team out….. do that nd we have a a shout at the superblow
by Master Ov Brutality on Sep 20, 2011 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions
Kwillie definitely
Team Monster:
JPP
"Da Real" Scott
Greg JONES
Herzlich
Paysinger
Jacquin Williams
and SASH
I agree
a kwille, the game is much faster, has soft hands though.
"Beckum is Beckum, it's a hamstring".....Tommy Couglin
by Great Gatsby on Sep 20, 2011 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions
maybe it isnt all on ross
rather than playing and getting burned by zone
kwillie to Ross
I think Ross was picked on.. but a couple of the completed passes Grant with his help over the top stunk as well…
Ross did make a handful of nice plays.
"Oh god help us all, the metlife blimps are coming, OMGWFTBBQFTW!!!!!!"
"Who needs a Bomar, when one can have a Perriloux"
nope, deserves a full wet willie.
Hes more often bad than good. It’s like he’s not focusing out there. Every “good” play he does hes out celebrating doing his stupid hammer gesture. Some advice to Ross: Stop celebrating, and focus on the next play at hand. You are clearly the weak link.
you come at the king you best not miss...
I still vote Kwillie
on 3 of the Rams’ redzone passes Ross was in perfect man coverage and broke up passes to keep about 12 points off the board.
Yeah he made mistakes, but he made plays at important times.
his play was sort of Kwillie - about half and half
but his sulking baby atitude and his never bother to touch down the WR after the catch – all in itself deserves the wet willie
Grant prob deserves a kwillie for his involvement in that non touching debacle
Team Monster:
JPP
"Da Real" Scott
Greg JONES
Herzlich
Paysinger
Jacquin Williams
and SASH
How about
new terminology, a wet kwille?
"Beckum is Beckum, it's a hamstring".....Tommy Couglin
by Great Gatsby on Sep 20, 2011 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions
+1 - Could agree more
When basically WHOLE DRIVES are made based on your poor play and your pulled for a rookie in GAME 2, you get a full Wet Willie. When the opposing qb can pad his stats because of your play directly and the rest of the defense has to bail you out – full wet willie.
Grant
I was actually going to comment on Grant. He looked as bad or worse than Ross last night in my opinion. Several of those were plays where Grant got there way too late as his help behind him. And unlike Ross I did not see any good plays from Grant, Ross did have a few.
by Midnight Blue on Sep 20, 2011 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions
From what I remember he did have 1 really strong tackle - I even posted Grant! when I saw it last night
Team Monster:
JPP
"Da Real" Scott
Greg JONES
Herzlich
Paysinger
Jacquin Williams
and SASH
hey that avatar pic looks familiar.
Team Greg Jones
Team Jerry Reese
by BigBlueIntervention on Sep 20, 2011 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions
haha ... nice!
Team Monster:
JPP
"Da Real" Scott
Greg JONES
Herzlich
Paysinger
Jacquin Williams
and SASH
found a new one
limited pics out there in blue
until this guys makes more plays
Team Monster:
JPP
"Da Real" Scott
Greg JONES
Herzlich
Paysinger
Jacquin Williams
and SASH
Jacquain Williams deserves some praise
2nd week in a row #57’s out there on a majority of the plays on defense. He was the one that caused the errant throw by Bradford on the screen play. Seems like another steal that played for USF
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
+1
Williams and Jones… They make me very hapy.
"Oh god help us all, the metlife blimps are coming, OMGWFTBBQFTW!!!!!!"
"Who needs a Bomar, when one can have a Perriloux"
yes
The Jones goal line tackle was impressive to see out of a rookie playing his second game
nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!
MAKE IT WORK!!!
I yelled
The Kracken when Jones made that play.
Why is Tom Quinn still here? I loves me some Coach Clawfin.
TEEM GRAIG JAWONES
Team Greg Jones
Team Jerry Reese
by BigBlueIntervention on Sep 20, 2011 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions
Nice!
"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning
Curious on peoples thoughts on herzlich
I thought he was good in preseason, and maybe its just too hard to tell on special teams, but he seemed slow. If anything he certainly isn’t shinning on SP. Then again its only 2 games.
you come at the king you best not miss...
Its only 2 games
That goes for all the rookies and Ross.. (kinda being a lot like a rookie)
Although, its hard to overlook Williams and Jones.
"Oh god help us all, the metlife blimps are coming, OMGWFTBBQFTW!!!!!!"
"Who needs a Bomar, when one can have a Perriloux"
I see him around the play on specials a lot
Paysinger too. I think the idea is that those two were UDFA’s for a reason, and Williams and Jones were drafted for a reason, they’re both much better athletes and it shows. Williams has more then enough athleticism to play in an NFL defense. Jones is just a tough little bastard.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
by Rorschach44 on Sep 20, 2011 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions
he's missed on quite a few tackles on ST
Team Greg Jones
Team Jerry Reese
by BigBlueIntervention on Sep 20, 2011 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions
a couple of the young guys are showing a ton of promise
and especially the two you mentioned. I saw williams all over the ball llast night on several plays. kid covers a ton of ground out there.. fast as a mother.
greg jones has been holding his own as well. for late round pick who was considered too small and slow, he has really started off his NFL career the right way. JR might have found 2 gems late in this years draft.
by Plaxico Burress on Sep 20, 2011 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions
TEAM GREG JONES
Room for one Jacquain in here too.
Team Greg Jones
Team Jerry Reese
by BigBlueIntervention on Sep 20, 2011 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions
I'll take a 1st class ticket
make it 2. Mt wife will bitch if she can’t come for the ride.
Why is Tom Quinn still here? I loves me some Coach Clawfin.
would you like tea and crumpets, sir? And anger?
because they’re bringing it all.
I love the play of our LBzez this year. Maybe its cause its relative to the play of our secondary. But Jones seems to make at least 1 big tackle a game. Jacquain is flying all over hte place. And Boley….he does everything from shutting shit down to throwing balls in peoples faces
Team Greg Jones
Team Jerry Reese
by BigBlueIntervention on Sep 20, 2011 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions
No shite!
Boley is playing out of his mind these last 2 games. I thought he was the player of the game last night. The best part is Boley was an after thought heading into this season. Suprise. Suprise.
Why is Tom Quinn still here? I loves me some Coach Clawfin.
to be fair, we always knew that he wasn't going to be replaced this season.
last year, when we were talking LBzez struggles, it was SLB we were concerned for. But yeah, Boley is totally exceeding expectations.
Team Greg Jones
Team Jerry Reese
by BigBlueIntervention on Sep 20, 2011 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah I didn't think he was getting replaced either
Just thought about him in regards to being good. Thougtht he was a FA pickup that was just o. k. so I am pleasantry surprised.
Why is Tom Quinn still here? I loves me some Coach Clawfin.
Yes
I was not in his camp but he has a great motor and keeps playing at top speed.
We need this desperately.
All the Giants should play like Mark Bavaro.
Tom Quinn Must Go!
It is equally worthless when people are always optimistic or always pessimistic. Either way I take their opinion with a pound of salt because I know they only have one setting. I post my own thoughts, not what either side wants to read.
by UnknownJintsFan on Sep 20, 2011 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions
Noticed that too
5 tackles and 2 assists.
Self-praise is for losers. Be a winner. Stand for something. Always have class, and be humble.
-John Madden
The kid
has some skills, and some nice speed.
"Beckum is Beckum, it's a hamstring".....Tommy Couglin
by Great Gatsby on Sep 20, 2011 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Yup, Williams was flying around out there
"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning
This game reminded me of a Tennis match I recently played
I’m a good defesnive Tennis player that can run balls down and consitantley hit the ball over the net but my serve sucks, I don’t hit forehands or backhands with any depth, and I cant volley and put oppents away at the net. I won a match recently but it was more becasue my oppenet dumped 50% of his shots into the the net. My server was broken consitantley and the only thing I did well was run down balls. I have no confidence whats so over going into my next match. Thats how I feel about the Giants. They won but the pass D still sucks, Eli is playing like a rookie, our running game is mediorce and our WRs outside of Nicks are struggling. The only thing that I took out of last nights game was Justin Tuck is still very very good and JPP is really developing and we can stop the run. Those were things I knew.
Well Eli sucked badly in the 1st half but
In the 2nd half I thought he played very well. He stood tall in the pocket and was taking what the defense was giving him. Him and his receivers were on the same page getting the hot reads right and making the play.
Why is Tom Quinn still here? I loves me some Coach Clawfin.
Takign what the defense was giving him. Precisely.
My dad, “I’m so sick of him dumping it off for 4 yards every time.” Me- “He’s taking what the defense is giving him, not forcing the ball into coverage, he’s keeping the ball safe.” Dad- “So what, 4 yards isn’t shit.” SMH. Then again, I’m starting to second guess his football knowledge, he also said all the sacks were Eli’s fault, even the one where the Ram’s blitzed 7 guys, and the guy came in untouched and sacked Eli from the backside. Still his fault apparently. But he has an admitted hate for Eli Manning, so there’s that.
Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
SASH
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 20, 2011 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions
he should blame Eli
for the way Ross played too
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 20, 2011 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Nobody knows this offense
better than Spags, taking that into account, much better performance. They bated him well
on his first int.
"Beckum is Beckum, it's a hamstring".....Tommy Couglin
by Great Gatsby on Sep 20, 2011 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Good job to...
Tuck for his never ending motor, Boley as well and being smart on the field. Rolle and KP for making good tackles, Special teams looking better as well. Greg Jones had some good plays. NIcks for his monster hands and Hixon as well.
Eli is starting to scare me, his passes are lacking and thought process is starting to slip…
KG did try to mix it up in the first half, i was shocked. We need more bootlegs…because they have worked well, I even like the full house back field with BJ getting a head of steam up.
by oldschoolblue64 on Sep 20, 2011 10:37 AM EDT reply actions
Also on that play you mention
Ross had already passed D. Alexander to Grant.. Technically, in a cover two… That play is entirely Grants fault.
But yes Ross was bad.. but not the end of the world… PF needs to stop putting him in zone, or spend more time with him to teach him zone… Either way, I am not that worried.
"Oh god help us all, the metlife blimps are coming, OMGWFTBBQFTW!!!!!!"
"Who needs a Bomar, when one can have a Perriloux"
Ross has to understand...
that at certain points you have to pick it up, he knew they were keying on him! He did make some good plays but the negative ones out weigh the positive ones in this game.
by oldschoolblue64 on Sep 20, 2011 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions
I agree...
Still will wait to see how the season ends..
so its out there.. I was very happy they pulled him.. I actually think Eli should have been pulled as well.. Just to serve as a reminder, either Thrive or Die,
"Oh god help us all, the metlife blimps are coming, OMGWFTBBQFTW!!!!!!"
"Who needs a Bomar, when one can have a Perriloux"
If Carr gave them a better chance I'd agree
but he looked terrible in the preseason and the game was very much still in doubt
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 20, 2011 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions
Eli did improve from the 2 minute drill on
but it did not make up for a crappy half he had. He was mush more conservative using the short pass… especially to the RBs
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 20, 2011 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions
Why aren't you worried?
Ross has looked horrible the first 2 games against Grossman and Bradford. I’m definitely worried.
Grant is late with the deep help though. Why him and Ross were running side by side is beyond me. The safety has to be deeper than the CB.
Rolle
A lot of tackles and no dumb penalties, BUT he can’t cover
Not his true strength but a nice job in my book!
by oldschoolblue64 on Sep 20, 2011 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions
Not sure why it isn't, though
he was a CB in college and came to the pros as a CB. He should know how to cover.
ESPN talking about the Eagles again..
it’s amazing what winning so many SB’s gets you for respect on TV……Oh wait.
Must be their iron man QB who never misses a game…..Oh wait.
Must be their spectacular, all time legendary D that nobody can score on……Oh wait.
ESPN hates the giants
and it was obvious last night. Everything they talked about before, during, and after the game were the rams. Jaws could stop playing with himself over Sam Bradford, unless he was shitting on the giants. The theme of the game was “St. Louis’ mistakes lost them the game.” not once did you see or hear how “the Giants won by capitalizing on the rams mistakes.” im so sick of ESPN.
by Plaxico Burress on Sep 20, 2011 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions
What was funny was
that whichever team made a good play was the best team. Swinging back and forth, ridiculous.
All the Giants should play like Mark Bavaro.
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by UnknownJintsFan on Sep 20, 2011 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions
TV in general does that I've noticed
But the national games are even worse (Sun & Mon). Who’s ever winning or looking good is “The Best Team EVAH!”
"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning
its about media attention
the media and fans are interested in the Jets, Cowboys, Vick, Romo etc.
The Giants are boring. No one cares except Giants fans.
Pass Protection
who’s the culprit for the breakdowns, he deserves a WW
not sure, but O-line still is a work in progress
by oldschoolblue64 on Sep 20, 2011 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions
This for sure
Getting better but still a ways to go.
"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning
there's gonna be breakdown
against the blitz. However, KUDOS for the left side of the line and Baas on the AB screen on 3rd and 18.
MM
Great talent, but oh those mental lapses
JJ12
might have to be pressed into service
Victor Cruz
time to show some trust in this guy and see what he’s got
he looked much better last night
he may have a bigger role come sunday.. cause of injuries of course
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 20, 2011 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions
Where is the Kudos for Gilbride?!?!?!?!
I am the mans archnemesis… but give credit where credit is do… when forced to run the ball, he calls an excellent game.
I have to thank Eli for sucking so much in the first have, to convince KG that the only way to win was running the ball. When we run = we win…
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by Skii31 on Sep 20, 2011 10:47 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I did give him some...
running bootleg, full house backfield, no huddle.
by oldschoolblue64 on Sep 20, 2011 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions
*first half
not first have..
"Oh god help us all, the metlife blimps are coming, OMGWFTBBQFTW!!!!!!"
"Who needs a Bomar, when one can have a Perriloux"
Rec'ed!
When its 3rd and long, throw the ball past the marker.
by Fester McDougal on Sep 20, 2011 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions
Kudos for Gilbride?
they were awful in the 1st half. We still got a predictable play on 4th and 1. We committed to the run. For that he deserves a kudos?
Before Marian Ross was benched last night, it got to the point where Bradford wasn’t looking for anyone else other than who Ross was covering.
With the 86 team there last night, I thought for sure Lionel Manuel was walking out with a contract.
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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Sep 20, 2011 10:48 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Kudos to you
She would have been better as would a grandma in a walker.
All the Giants should play like Mark Bavaro.
Tom Quinn Must Go!
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by UnknownJintsFan on Sep 20, 2011 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions
Wide open
I believe you are not being accurate enough…
I am not sure you can accurately describe what exactly is going on with the opponents wide recievers when they enter our secondary..
"Oh god help us all, the metlife blimps are coming, OMGWFTBBQFTW!!!!!!"
"Who needs a Bomar, when one can have a Perriloux"
That is I believe the zone coverage
and the front 4 or the blitzer isnt getting to the qb quick enough. Sam had some plays were he had allllll day to find a reciever
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Some observations
Hey Ed,
How many snaps did our Rookie Middle LB play? There were a lot of times I saw the Giants with Boley around the middle. Seems like schemes were adjusted and I wonder how that impacts the pass defense?
As well, our o-line is still figuring things out. If you ask me, I thought they played very average. This has been a big strength of this team in seasons past. I hope this is a process and this group gels and it’s not a talent thing. Now Eli isn’t the most confident guy to begin with but I thing he looks a little unsure and jumpy right now and I’m wondering if its about that group in front of him. Not to mention the fact that the loss of SS and KB is huge.
What I know is that JPP is a beast, Tuck is an All-Pro and that Eli needs to be better.
I want more JPP and I want it now!
Jones = MLB running downs
with Kiwi and Boley outside. When they go to nickel, the 2 LBs are Boley and JWill. That seems to be the personnel they’re using.
Boley = coverage. Jacquain = SPEED
Jones = Anger. Kiwi = penetration.
thus, nickel, we go with coverage and speed.
running downs, anger and penetration.
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by BigBlueIntervention on Sep 20, 2011 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions
kiwi's in a lot of nickels at the DE too
I saw at least one 4 aces last night with JPP, Tuck, Kiwi, and Tolly
Ya, I agree with Jones use
But why do we suck in the nickel?
I want more JPP and I want it now!
We didn't blitz a ton on nickel downs. And our secondary. Wasn't the LBz
Didn’t see the slot receiver or TE catch too many balls…nor did I see Cadillac’s screen game work. That’s all on the LBzez.
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by BigBlueIntervention on Sep 20, 2011 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions
ummm...we have no LBzez, remember?
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MAKE IT WORK!!!
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by BigBlueIntervention on Sep 20, 2011 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions
Why are people really worried about next week???
The Eagles passing game is not elite at all, Vick or no Vick. We can run the ball on those guys and control the clock. And I don’t care who their QB is, we can get pressure on him with our DL and safety blitzing. Philly is more of a flawed team than we are but because of how flashy their offseason was people will give them the benefit of the doubt.
Eagles passing game is not elite
gotta disagree with that…. they are pretty damn good
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 20, 2011 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions
I am not worried about the game
got another week of practice, and that helps Williams and Ross (yes, I still hold out hope for him)
but to say the Eagles passing game is not elite, is kinda underestimating them.
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"Who needs a Bomar, when one can have a Perriloux"
agreed
they have one of the best passing games in the NFL. The defense is gonna have to earn their money come sunday
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 20, 2011 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions
their offense can score at any time from anywhere
they have flaws, but they have speed, speed and more speed…the giants are going to have to crank it up a notch to hang with them—it won’t be easy, but ithey are improving
Whoa!
Philly is more of a flawed team than we are but because of how flashy their offseason was people will give them the benefit of the doubt.
I think those injuries have got to your brain man.. Its ok to think you guys can win but to ay we are more flawed…
got to disagree with this broskie. Philly is damn good.
Though I like the confidence. We have a chance.
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by BigBlueIntervention on Sep 20, 2011 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions
so.....
your saying there’s a chance
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 20, 2011 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
swami, swimmy, swammon, swanson
hey just check the briefcase…
ahhh sampsonite…I was way off.
I have not yet begun to procrastinate
I desperately wanna make love to a...
I’m not going there – I’ll be on some FBI list or something
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I have a hard time believing you aren't on their list already
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by Larry Soprano on Sep 20, 2011 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions
shhh...
damn it…back over to BGN I go!
nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!
MAKE IT WORK!!!
busted!!!
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 20, 2011 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions
walking way...
you know the rest
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MAKE IT WORK!!!
kicking something I bet
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 20, 2011 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions
rec'd for referencing quite possibly the best movie of all time.
Only serious competition to this is the Ace Ventura series.
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by BigBlueIntervention on Sep 20, 2011 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions
GUANO
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by BigBlueIntervention on Sep 20, 2011 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions
We play like Guano.
That is, like shit, but goddamn it, we’re actually worth it.
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by BigBlueIntervention on Sep 20, 2011 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions
Sorry BBI but...
Mel Brooks and Monty Python > James Carrey
However, he is in very good company.
while fantastic in its own right. Just something ridiculous about Carrey that makes
me laugh every time even though I know its coming.
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by BigBlueIntervention on Sep 20, 2011 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions
The Rhinocerous scene
No matter how often I watch that scene, I end up laughing till it hurts!
by eyerish9299 on Sep 20, 2011 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions
We have not run the ball all year
and even last year our running game is a product of our passing game, Minny was the only game last year in which the running game clicked without much of a passsing game. Our O-line is not goot enough to blow teams off the line and our backs are good but they’re not good enough to run through and or around 4 or 5 guys down in the Box. Nicks is our only viable threat because Manningham and Eli are never on the same page. Bottom line the GIants “power running game” is a thing of the past, I don’t care what some Stats say a truley good running team lines up and guts 4 or 5 yards a pop and wears teams down our running games has not done that consistatnly since 2008.
Philly is not the Saints, Pats, or Packers when it comes to passing efficiancy but they are the best big play passing team in the league and considering we let Rex Grossman and a second year QB with a bunch of backups pass for over 600 yards against us it’s kinda tough to objectively feel good about this game comming up
We match up against the Eagles quite well.
1) We are near tops in the league against the run. JPP is heads and shoulders better run defender than Osi. Having him and Tuck on the edges will really help.
2) We’ve been able to sniff out the screen damn well in both games. If we can do that, McCoy will still do well, but he will be limited in the passing game.
3) I love the matchup of Joseph and Canty versus the interior OL of the eggs. Kelce and Mathis especially were getting blown off the ball pretty easily yesterday.
4) On offense, RUN the damn ball. The wide 9 will give both the tackles fits…but there is a good chance of them overrunning the play a la Osi. Also, their LBs suck, and their CBs don’t enjoy tackling.
Their advantages are massive in both passing games. Our secondary blows, and will struggle versus their speed. Our offensive passing game takes time to warm up, and their pass rush plus their outstanding corners will make it difficult.
The way we win this game is a time of possession battle, make no mistake about it, and wear down that defense. They were atrocious in red zone defense, allowing TDs to the falcons on all 5 trips. This year, our redzone O is amazing. Take advantage of that, grind them down. That’s the way we win.
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by BigBlueIntervention on Sep 20, 2011 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions
I couldn't agree more
But unfortunately, that’s only talk. The Giants are aware of all those things and talk about it but they do not execute on the field.
I hope they do against the Iggles.
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We've certainly had a strong pass rush, and our DTs are playing out of their minds.
Our run defense is near topping the league, and we didn’t let anyone get into a rhythm running the ball.
Will that outweigh the severe difference in the passing game. Objectivity and current play points towards no, but hope and reasonable improvement, plus the fact that its a divisional game points to “perhaps”
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by BigBlueIntervention on Sep 20, 2011 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Why bother running against us
when it is so easy to pass against us. That i going to skew the running defense stats, and I’m sure philly is fine with that as they are not a team built on the traditional running game.
truth. but one can hope that we can play more nickel defense rather than regular
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by BigBlueIntervention on Sep 20, 2011 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Fair points..
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Time of possesion
No shit, but you need to convert 3rd downs to do that. We are one of the worst in the league not to mention most of 3rd downs are 3rd and longs because our run game is mediorce. Hell until the last drive of the first half the Giants went 3 and out on every offensive possesion. Thats terrible.
And the Rams Are?
If a Rams offense that is forced to pass can put up those numbers, the Eagles, with a legit RB, and a good range of receivers does scare me.
Not saying all hope is lost, I think for us to win, it’s all about the lines, but our secondary vs their receivers? We lose that matchup.
by Fishhead202 on Sep 20, 2011 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions
And so far this year
(knocking fore head on fake wood dash panel in car) we have not killed ourselves.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but ONE turnover!!!! for THE YEAR?
That is how we lost to the Iggles last year.
P.S. Iggles are not elite and I would argue darn good as well.
two TO's
Both INTs but yes… avoid those and this team can pull out victories
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 20, 2011 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Manning In Regression Mode
He is not getting better, both TD passes were bad and bailed out by the receivers. The INT was a rookie mistake and when we really need a third down completion it is not there. KG is also to blame.
by GiantFaninColorado on Sep 20, 2011 10:54 AM EDT reply actions
Both TD passes were throws all great QBs make
Nicks was a good throw. The Hixon one was on Hixon, the ball hit him square in the numbers.
The INT was a well disguised robber play with the safety. Spags did that for a few years here with James Butler doing just that. And Quintin Mikel is a lot better then James Butler.
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by Rorschach44 on Sep 20, 2011 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions
Hixon's throw was underthrown
and Nicks should have been to the outside — could have been a pick six only good throw was the one to Manningham that should have been 6.
by GiantFaninColorado on Sep 20, 2011 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions
You're picking nits
the Hixon throw was on the money. A ball doesn’t hit the player in the numbers and be underthrown. It was a jump ball. Hixon’s at fault there and lucky he made a great catch.
Any other QB makes that throw, no one has any mention of the QB. Only thing is a ‘great catch’ by the receiver.
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by Rorschach44 on Sep 20, 2011 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions
The throw to Hixon was not a good one
Hixon had to fight off the defender just to get back to where the ball was. Frankly, I was just hoping he could prevent an interception. That he made the catch was remarkable.
by Tucker Fredrickson on Sep 20, 2011 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions
that sort of throw occurs all the time
and when the defender does nothing, and the ball hits the guy directly in the chest, he’s got to catch it cuz its a good throw.
The only thing that happened wrong on that play is Hixon didnt’ catch it right away.
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by Rorschach44 on Sep 20, 2011 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions
I don't see it as nit picking
Manning is an inaccurate passer, with the Hixon td, the ball just made it over the defender’s helmet. because his head wasn’t turned he didn’t make a play on the ball. If the ball is thrown deeper, Hixon makes one of those nice back of the endzone catches and there’s nothing the defender can do about it.
in the case of the Nicks TD Eli throws the ball right at the back of the corner. If it’s not Nicks there to turn a sow’s ear into a silk purse, the pass bounces off the back of the Ram defder.
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the point is all QBs make that throw
it ends up in a very similar spot too. Eli did not throw a bad ball. It only is a question cuz Hixon bobbled it. Its really 100% Hixon’s fault he didn’t catch it
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I could have sworn
that Hixon had his eyes closed when he went up for the ball and it hit him in the numbers….
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by Giantssincesix on Sep 20, 2011 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, and watch the highlights
and there were TD throws like that all over the league. Even (gasp) Brady. I’m sick and tired of every gd throw being a referendum on Eli, especially TD throws.
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not to split hairs, but...
….the ball hit Hixon square in the bicep. That is a hell of an individual play by Hixon.
by Step up and make big plays on Sep 20, 2011 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions
Come on man are you serious
What are you calling the D for the Rams? It was a good “robber play”, how do you know that? Eli puts some air under that and its a TD even Coughlin questioned whether or not Eli saw the saftey there. Eli should of recognized what kind of coverage it was and Mikel was beatan it became a “good robber play” because Eli underthrew it and once again was not on the same page as manningham. I’ll take TC questioning Eli on an obvious bad throw rather than some guy on a blog telling us the kind of coverage it was.
Watch a breakdown of the film
Sometimes, defense ACTUALLY make good plays. Its not always on Eli.
I know, its hard to believe that a good defense with a great coach could be good at the same time as Eli not being bad.
The throw was great (it would have hit ’Rio in stride), but the coverage was just VERY well disguised.
moving on…
are you?
the defense baited him there. They let Manningham go and the safety baited him. Again, another play where if this isn’t Eli Manning we’re calling it a good play by the defense.
The ball wasn’t underthrown. Mikel had to make a good catch over his head to make the play. Eli probably should’ve overthrown it a bit more, but again the defense was disguised well.
Not saying Eli wasn’t wrong on that, he was. But also not gonna say it was just a ‘johnny on the spot’ INT like you’re trying to do. It was a robber defense where the safety lines up on one side and slides over to the other receiver.
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by Rorschach44 on Sep 20, 2011 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions
It was good defense BUT
Not sure who to blame, but the WR when he sees the S horizontal has to float deeper
Eli has to throw deeper
Just to make it harder to pick it off and increase the chances of a TD
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I agree
and i also think HAM couldve helped by coming back to the ball, something great receivers do but he will learn. he was off lastnight something serious……..but HAM will get back on track.
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i also think HAM couldve helped by coming back to the ball,
What play are you referring to?
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by LoNJDTechnology on Sep 20, 2011 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions
The quintin Mikell pick
Ham couldve done something different everytime he was targeted but he wasnt aggressive.
Not saying it would have stopped the pick but he couldve tried, but maybe im asking too much, just seemed like he was waiting on the ball to get to him.
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No you are not asking too much.
I would have like for him to do that too. He did try to come back though but he slipped.
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by LoNJDTechnology on Sep 20, 2011 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions
He was free down
running down the sideline, why would he come back to the ball?
You come back to the ball on a curl, or square out, not a fly pattern.
Spags baited Eli well on that particular play, give then credit.
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by Great Gatsby on Sep 20, 2011 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Eli wasn't as bad as it looked
Nicks just snatched that TD out of the air, but Eli threw it where it had to be.
Hixon whiffed on the 1st attempt at catching that TD, it bounced right off his shoulder and he was lucky to stay with it and make a great play but it didn’t have to be that hard.
That Mikel INT was absolutely all Spags and it fooled Eli into thinking he had single coverage on that side. That ball might have been completed if it had a little more mustard on it but that was not Eli being a cowboy, that was good D.
If Manningham catches that ball down the sideline cleanly that’s a TD too. That was a perfect throw from Eli.
Manning regressed to last year for the first quarter and a half. Then he went Citizen ecodrive mode the rest of the game
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by BigBlueIntervention on Sep 20, 2011 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions
when Eli was given more control at the line and they opened things up
it seemed he passed a lot better with much better rhythm. I was thinking that if Eli was allowed to play for McDaniels with that uptempo offense he could run it perfectly and be unstoppable more consistently.
I know, unfathomable to think Gilbride is holding him back.
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by Rorschach44 on Sep 20, 2011 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions
yes. I was actually looking at the gameclock.
When Eli lets it wind down to 2-3 seconds left to snap, the defense can time their jump perfectly. That’s a huge deal!
With the no huddle or quick snap, with 8 or 9 seconds, the opposing defense sits back for a crucial split second so our OL can get the first hit in.
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by BigBlueIntervention on Sep 20, 2011 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions
it was amazing how many plays worked when Eli wasn't concerned about pointing out who the 'mike' was.
there’s plays where you should do that, but sometimes you gotta just go out there and let shit happen.
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by Rorschach44 on Sep 20, 2011 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions
lol can't tell you how many times I heard
“55’s the MIKE. 55’s the MIKE. 180. 180. Omaha. Omaha. HIKE!”
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by BigBlueIntervention on Sep 20, 2011 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions
Sometimes ya gotta just play
Agreed. Eli should save his acumen for diagnosing coverage and making better passes. Too much presnap crap flying around. I think he confuses people.
All the Giants should play like Mark Bavaro.
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by UnknownJintsFan on Sep 20, 2011 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions
True
but watch other games. Teams are snapping the ball inside of 5 seconds all the time now.
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I was very impressed with the two minute drill based on short passing. They weren’t getting it down throwing the ball down the field, so Gilbride had them switch to the short game. That was successful, and made the defenders tighten up, leading to long completions to MM and Hixon. I think that was a very good offensive adjustment. We’ll need more of that against the Eagles.
by hopeforthefuture3 on Sep 20, 2011 10:54 AM EDT reply actions
I think the passing game
is improving. Guys are getting open and Manning is seeing them. Now we need to hold the ball when it is on target and accuracy needs to improve. It will gel…
When its 3rd and long, throw the ball past the marker.
by Fester McDougal on Sep 20, 2011 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions
That's pretty much how the Gilbirde offense works
Weeks 1 and 2 tend to be rough, but then they gel and morph into a top offense.
I still wish they had canned Gilbride after last season (or helped him get a head coaching job somewhere else) and hire McDaniels. We just saw that a high speed, high percentage, balanced offense, with well timed deep shots works well with the personnel on the Giants’ O.
Next week: go full speed, activate JJ12, attack the LB’s with short passes in YAC situations, use the running game like a sledgehammer, play action from the 2 back set, and then pick your shots down field.
activate D Scott too
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 20, 2011 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions
I liked that
Tight ends, full backs and running backs were a successful part of what went right in the passing game. Glad Cruz came through
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An optimist is a person that falls off the empire state building and after 50 floor says so far so good!
My take
Kudos (in addition to what Ed said)
Boley for his batted pass as well, playing out of his mind this season. I was not a fan but he has proven me wrong.
Jones, playing well for a rookie
Weatherford. Let’s not forget how scary it was last season with Dodge punting. Sean was not great last night but his consistency is a breath of fresh air we really needed.
Tuck for being the AntiWimp
Hixon, what a catch. Hope he is OK.
Baas, good leadership, good blocking from what I saw.
Wet Willies
Eli- The next person that says he is elite I am going to email them a fart. Stop it. He is good but not elite, never will be. When he threw that interception, I just said “WTF was that?”. The improved percentage in the finish was mostly dump offs, short passes. He missed most of the good opportunities. Then gives us the pooped my pants look. Face it, he will never be consistently great. Yesterday, he made me sick. Problem is we have no alternative, Carr is not going to win games against good teams.
Umps and Announcers – Umps blew repeated calls both way, including Hakeem’s catch. Jaws and Gruden are blithering idiots. Total idiots. Saying wrong names, blabbing like a bunch of school girls, wrong calls, they just totally suck. I kept hitting the mute button because I could not stand to listen to them. And the camera work was just terrible.
Where are the days of Madden and Howard Cosell? At least we were entertained.
Aaron Ross – are you kidding me? He could not cover a sleeping dog with a blanket. Get him out of there somehow. You forgot to touch down a receiver? Do you not understand this game? He will never be starting caliber. And he is a wimp. Done with him. Bring in Prince on crutches, cannot be worse.
Kwillies
McKennzie – from what I saw, he had a weak game. Not terrible, not good.
Diehl too, not good.
Overall, this team looks shaky. TC, where are you? You make great challenges. Now get to the coaching part where you bring your team together. I said the other day I would take Spags in a minute. I would still do it. Yes the Rams lost but he had a good plan. Just has some young players and two of his best were out.
We were totally lucky to win. Next week against the E’s, we’d better play 1000% better or the game will be uglier that me in the morning. Or me all day matter of fact.
Something has to change in our pass protection and the offense (esp Eli) has to do better. Really, it could be a massacre if TC does not get this team playing at a higher level.
All the Giants should play like Mark Bavaro.
Tom Quinn Must Go!
It is equally worthless when people are always optimistic or always pessimistic. Either way I take their opinion with a pound of salt because I know they only have one setting. I post my own thoughts, not what either side wants to read.
by UnknownJintsFan on Sep 20, 2011 10:55 AM EDT reply actions
Agree almost completely. Almost.
I say TC gets a kudos. Yeah, he started off like ass….but he made sure Gilbride and Fewell were in check, made the proper adjustments, and once the Giants were up 14-6, they never relinquished the lead after that.
We blame the coach alot when we lose, its about time we give him some praise when he wins.
Team Greg Jones
Team Jerry Reese
by BigBlueIntervention on Sep 20, 2011 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions
you aren't lying about Diehl...
Lord have mercy…
nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!
MAKE IT WORK!!!
Boley is growing on you?
you better get that checked out… might be a fungus
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 20, 2011 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions
take one for the team
lol
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 20, 2011 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions
yeah. not the greatest two games...but I'd rather him struggle than Beatty.
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by BigBlueIntervention on Sep 20, 2011 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions
McKenzie and Diehl look like crap
Beatty looks great tho. It’ll probably be the last thing the Giants do, but Diehl playing at all may be what’s holding them back. He’s terrible.
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by Rorschach44 on Sep 20, 2011 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions
Beatty run blocking
could use some work, but i think he will improve there. He is protecting eli, which is the bottom line.
Yes im terrified to see what Babin will do to K Mack.
Also David Diehl better tighten up because Cullen Jenkins is on a mission.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
If we run it at Babin
Babin’s going to look bad
Self-praise is for losers. Be a winner. Stand for something. Always have class, and be humble.
-John Madden
Can we clone Snee?
"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning
Er
The improved percentage in the finish was mostly dump offs, short passes
If you have a high passing percentage, it’s mostly because you’re throwing short passes and dump offs
Self-praise is for losers. Be a winner. Stand for something. Always have class, and be humble.
-John Madden
yea
NO QB with a high completion % doesn’t have a ton of dump passes in his game. The Eagles run about 10 screen plays a game, that’s why Vick is anywhere near 50% each game.
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by Rorschach44 on Sep 20, 2011 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions
I love that law
It is the path that leads to enlightenment
"Oh god help us all, the metlife blimps are coming, OMGWFTBBQFTW!!!!!!"
"Who needs a Bomar, when one can have a Perriloux"
lulz at that argument anyway.
1) Most all of Eli’s “checkdowns” were because his player downfield was covered. Last year, he would’ve tried to force it and might’ve been picked off. He did the smart thing.
2) Alot of those checkdowns went for large gains, because we have an athletic OL.
3) Brady does the same thing for the most part….often times he has all 3 receivers run short routes, and that opens things up for him a shit ton. If only Gilbride….
Team Greg Jones
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by BigBlueIntervention on Sep 20, 2011 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions
OK
but what I meant was, he missed most of the long balls during the game, some really open ones.
Forgot the receiver (Ballard maybe?), but Eli had a terrible throw late in the game near the goal. The TV dopes (Gruden and JawsOfAss) said the Rams were not fooled on the play but it was really that Eli totally missed the receiver on an easy throw.
All the Giants should play like Mark Bavaro.
Tom Quinn Must Go!
It is equally worthless when people are always optimistic or always pessimistic. Either way I take their opinion with a pound of salt because I know they only have one setting. I post my own thoughts, not what either side wants to read.
by UnknownJintsFan on Sep 20, 2011 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions
Oh I agree
he definitely missed some plays he has to make in the first half. But I think in the 2nd half he was much improved and had much better accuracy and hitting passes he would have missed in the first
Self-praise is for losers. Be a winner. Stand for something. Always have class, and be humble.
-John Madden
The entire OL
deserves a kwillie, it’s a work in progress.
"Beckum is Beckum, it's a hamstring".....Tommy Couglin
by Great Gatsby on Sep 20, 2011 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions
did any of you guys hear when Gruden was ripping Jaws for being afraid of LT.. Hilarious!
and Jaws was visibly shaken just by Gruden mentioning LT
by Plaxico Burress on Sep 20, 2011 10:55 AM EDT reply actions
best part in their commentary
Team Monster:
JPP
"Da Real" Scott
Greg JONES
Herzlich
Paysinger
Jacquin Williams
and SASH
Like a pearl in poop
I would not want it anyway. They were terrible…again.
All the Giants should play like Mark Bavaro.
Tom Quinn Must Go!
It is equally worthless when people are always optimistic or always pessimistic. Either way I take their opinion with a pound of salt because I know they only have one setting. I post my own thoughts, not what either side wants to read.
by UnknownJintsFan on Sep 20, 2011 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions
true true - but if LT had surprised Jaws on set
that would’ve been priceless
Team Monster:
JPP
"Da Real" Scott
Greg JONES
Herzlich
Paysinger
Jacquin Williams
and SASH
that would have made my night
knowing LT he would have been in Jaws’ face the enitre time.. ESPN missed a golden opportunity for great television
by Plaxico Burress on Sep 20, 2011 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions
Ya mean like
SACKED HIM??
That would have made my night as I would not have to listen to the blabber.
All the Giants should play like Mark Bavaro.
Tom Quinn Must Go!
It is equally worthless when people are always optimistic or always pessimistic. Either way I take their opinion with a pound of salt because I know they only have one setting. I post my own thoughts, not what either side wants to read.
by UnknownJintsFan on Sep 20, 2011 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions
Eagles
can be run on…..time to play keep away, based on our pass defense and the Eagles weapons
agreed
Giants need to run run and run some more next week. have to control the clock if they plan on keeping it close.
by Plaxico Burress on Sep 20, 2011 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions
Kudos to JPP.
He has done a great job in the absence of the Strip-Sack King Osi. He will be a invaluable successor.
Factology! Belief is ignorance.
by LoNJDTechnology on Sep 20, 2011 11:00 AM EDT reply actions
"The Giants pass defense stinks, there really isn't another way to put it. Corey Webster can't shut anybody down, either"
Really Ed? why is this even necessary?
What did Cweb even do last night that lumps him up in this category?
Why openly discussing how Fewell asks his corners to play 10 yards off the line, than turn around and rip our Corners, especially the best one on the team? Cweb gave up a few back shoulder catches on some come back routes last night….how do you even defend those routes when your so far off the line?
truth be told, that’s exactly what Fewell wants them to do…give up the short stuff.
I really don’t understand it at all….
Cweb can shut people down, but he can’t when you ask him to play 10 yards off the reciever….and apparently giving up a 9 yard reception means he sucks.
we all know you favor TT, but can we at least try to be fair here? After All Cweb plays for the Giants too ya know. he’s not an eagle.
TT routinely had games last year that mirror what Ross is doing out there this year….
I never heard “TT is Awful” last year….
I don’t get it Ed! but it comes across as an agenda….
TeamJPP
I sense anger.
but also a point. Cweb has had an up and down 2 games this year IMO. We need more man to man, and from what I remember, he was locking down MSW when jamming.
Team Greg Jones
Team Jerry Reese
by BigBlueIntervention on Sep 20, 2011 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions
i'm angry that it's just unfair
….there are kids out there reading this blog that don’t know no better….
TeamJPP
well, that's why you're here, mate. Checks and balances.
Team Greg Jones
Team Jerry Reese
by BigBlueIntervention on Sep 20, 2011 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions
As someone put earlier
the law of averages
"Oh god help us all, the metlife blimps are coming, OMGWFTBBQFTW!!!!!!"
"Who needs a Bomar, when one can have a Perriloux"
Ya, I agree here
Cweb played well.
I want more JPP and I want it now!
I have no doubts the defense will get better over the coruse of the year
and it seems a lot like the Chicago Bears from last year. Bend, don’t break and then excel in the red zone.
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by Rorschach44 on Sep 20, 2011 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions
In the red zone we switched to blitzing and playing man
and all of a sudden the D looked a lot better.
shocking
after this long
its obvious they’re not gonna blitz when they don’t feel they need to, no matter how many times they get shredded for 25 yards per pass
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by Rorschach44 on Sep 20, 2011 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions
Its because Goff isnt in
He would normally check to blitzes, i think Perry would still love too but without Goff, he would just rather play it safe.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
amazing right?
while everyone is basking in the glory of a victory
I’m still SMH @ Fewell
the rams are a down right bad team and they’re hurt….
this W is nothing to write home about.
hell even the biggest play of the game (Boley’s TD) was basically an unforced error on the Rams.
TeamJPP
disagree it was unforced
Williams clearly forced the throw
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by Rorschach44 on Sep 20, 2011 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions
You're right
Bradford was forced to throw to Williams right. the pass was still catchable but Cadillac screwed the pooch in a number of ways on that play.
‘Expert’ – from the adjective *pert*, meaning ‘lively’ or ‘effective,’ and the prefix *ex-*, meaning ‘not.’
"saying you are right when you’re wrong only gives you the right to be wrong"
An optimist is a person that falls off the empire state building and after 50 floor says so far so good!
Watching the replay, if Cadillac reacts...
…he most likely would have arrived late and not recovered the fumble, but Boley likely would have been stopped on the spot. He quit on the play and it cost his team 7 points.
by Step up and make big plays on Sep 20, 2011 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions
the ball had to be thrown to the side instead of right on line
why? Williams was there.
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by Rorschach44 on Sep 20, 2011 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions
just to be sure though
the play where the ball hit C. Williams directly in his hands?
and than he proceeded to watch it flounder on the turf?
I mean really, I’ll give credit to J. Will b/c that slight pressure did caught a pass to be thrown 6 inches from it’s original target BUT, you gotta make that catch….and if you don’t at least hustle to the ball and kick it outta bounds.
I’m glad he didn’t…
TeamJPP
the TD itself and not picking teh ball up was on Cadillac
but the throw, where the throw was designed to not be behind the receiver like that, that’s Williams getting in the way.
The play itself was forced to be like that by Williams. Williams didn’t pick it up cuz he’s a nipplehead.
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by Rorschach44 on Sep 20, 2011 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions
What do you want a man to do
when he loses his mike backer a day before the regular season.
He had to remove alot of the plays, things are going to be off a lil bit but we will get it together.
You act like the rest of the NFL’s defenses look so much better especially against the pass, everytime i turn on the TV somebody, anybody is throwing for 400 yrds……….except Eli of course lol.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
play man coverage like a real man
TeamJPP
by andiamo708 on Sep 20, 2011 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
With Aaron Ross??
Riiiiight….whose side are you on?
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
spags did it
and you cheat your safety over to help him….
or you just bring more pressure at the QB and force a quick throw.
seems like ross is pretty good at defending those….
go figure.
TeamJPP
Ross was spotty no matter man or zone
When Osi gets back you will see more man but until then i think Fewell is doing the right thing by mixing up the coverages.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
HAHA
I think alot changes just as things changed when Tuck got back.
When Osi gets back ALOT will change, simply by moving JPP around when Osi returns back to the RE spot, things will change.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
Ross was better in man press
He actually made some plays in press
Then he’d suck
"That's mostly fans who say that kind of stuff and they really don't understand the process. We have good players on the team. We're not looking to go out and make every sexy splash that can be made. We make solid football decisions. That's been happening for a long time," Reese said
You mean on passing downs
and we have JPP, Osi and Tuck nothing will be different? Me thinks you are mistaken.
All the Giants should play like Mark Bavaro.
Tom Quinn Must Go!
It is equally worthless when people are always optimistic or always pessimistic. Either way I take their opinion with a pound of salt because I know they only have one setting. I post my own thoughts, not what either side wants to read.
by UnknownJintsFan on Sep 20, 2011 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions
well i was refering to the back end
yes, things will change on the D Front w/ Osi back.
but i’m talking about Fewell’s scheme.
and why will it change this year when Osi’s back….he was here all last year and we still ran this quasi Zone/Cover 2 like 70% of the time w/ Man sprinkled in here and there.
TeamJPP
I dunno
I saw Dave Tollefson in the game a ton the past two weeks. Dave Tollefson. I like Tolly, but he’s no Osi.
Now say we have Osi in there for Tolly, or likely in this case since Osi will whine if he has to sub in, we have JPP in there for Tollefson.
Sorry, that’s a big friggin change.
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by Rorschach44 on Sep 20, 2011 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions
so now you're pissed on how the front 7 is playing?
I’m pissed that they don’t blitz and play man more, but moving guys around the defensive line is a good thing.
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by Rorschach44 on Sep 20, 2011 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions
do i come across as pissed?
I’m just saying….he plays guys all over the place and outta position.
No, i don’t want Tolly playing NT … or JPP.
I assume he did it with JPP though b/c of all the attention he was drawing but no, i’d sooner not see that.
TeamJPP
Aaron Ross is supposed to be playing man coverage
its even worse to be playing zone with him there then it is with Thomas and Webster.
Ross is actually good at bump and run.
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by Rorschach44 on Sep 20, 2011 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions
Yes he is
but he is even starting to lose his confidence in that.
One play he is awesome, next play he is horrible, i like AR but he needs to dial in.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
it would also help if he had some safety help
Grant has been terrible in getting there for help
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by Rorschach44 on Sep 20, 2011 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions
I think Grant
made Ross go from “average” to “SUCKS”
I counted around 4 different times Ross was expecting help from Grant and Grant was not there.
"Oh god help us all, the metlife blimps are coming, OMGWFTBBQFTW!!!!!!"
"Who needs a Bomar, when one can have a Perriloux"
Could be Ross
let his man go too early in the zone…… some of those cant be on Grant, Ross looked lost at times.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
Ross only covers ther first 15-20 yards
Then communication with Ross and Grant is the main issue..
Webster doesnt have this issue because he communicates really well with Rolle and KP. The biggest mistake Ross made was on the TD pass that got blocked at the line… Ross let his man have an inside release knowing there was no inside help…
"Oh god help us all, the metlife blimps are coming, OMGWFTBBQFTW!!!!!!"
"Who needs a Bomar, when one can have a Perriloux"
Yes Grant looked like a tortoise
"That's mostly fans who say that kind of stuff and they really don't understand the process. We have good players on the team. We're not looking to go out and make every sexy splash that can be made. We make solid football decisions. That's been happening for a long time," Reese said
Yep
he looks really slow, not helping the situation.
"Beckum is Beckum, it's a hamstring".....Tommy Couglin
by Great Gatsby on Sep 20, 2011 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions
and he was the one that coulda have and shoulda have touched the WR on the ground
I made this comment a while back….
just because Rolle is in the box doesn’t mean the Cover 2 goes away….
Grant just displaces him back there and chemistry goes right back out the window
TeamJPP
Yea he has
but lets not absolve Aaron Ross of any wrong doing. He has been pretty bad off and on.
The fact that Spags signed off on a plan to target him says alot, especially knowing that he knows Ross’ skill level.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
also knowing Ross
hasnt played consistently in 2 years due to injuries…. Take advantage of what you have to work with…
I dont believe we should absolve Ross, Nor do I think we should cut him/replace him/ trade him…
I think he is an above average corner who is being asked to do something he was never strong at in the first place. give him some time, treat him almost as how you would a rookie. Tough love.
"Oh god help us all, the metlife blimps are coming, OMGWFTBBQFTW!!!!!!"
"Who needs a Bomar, when one can have a Perriloux"
we are hurt too
do we have problems? yup! but we won, so ENJOY IT! we have the same record as eagles and cowboys
I will bask in the glory of this victory
partially because a W is a W. Partially because we’ve been so inundated by negativity over the past week that I was going crazy. Nice to see some positivity.
Team Greg Jones
Team Jerry Reese
by BigBlueIntervention on Sep 20, 2011 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions
well i was positive
until i realized Ross sucks at life, and Cweb is right behind him.
gawd forbid i say anything about Fewell right?
SMH
TeamJPP
ah
Team Greg Jones
Team Jerry Reese
by BigBlueIntervention on Sep 20, 2011 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions
webster is a good corner
but he is overmatched by some number 1 receivers, hopefully prince can fill the role of the #1 corner eventually.—yeah, the giants have some holes on D—IMO, both philips and rolle are great safeties, but are better in run support roles—we don’t have a ball hawk free safety that swoops in and helps out our corners.
everyone gets beat
Nnamdi gets beat, Tramon Williams gets beat.
Revis…..he’s the best out right now.
but this notion that shut down corners don’t get beat….espcially on short come back routes….spare me.
TeamJPP
Mine and Greg Jones. Poo on everyone else.
Besides, I love no one else. Andiamo has JPP and Tito has his wenches.
Team Greg Jones
Team Jerry Reese
by BigBlueIntervention on Sep 20, 2011 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Ghost and Ham have a strong bond too
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 20, 2011 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Ghost loves Ham, Sintim, Beckum. He's more unfaithful than anybody else.
Team Greg Jones
Team Jerry Reese
by BigBlueIntervention on Sep 20, 2011 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions
well my love for a certain player
who will remain nameless, will never die… have not had a replacement for him. SS12 was close but… well you know
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 20, 2011 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm developing a feeling down there for Jacquain Williams
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by Rorschach44 on Sep 20, 2011 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions
does it tingle?
Team Greg Jones
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by BigBlueIntervention on Sep 20, 2011 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions
yes
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
by Rorschach44 on Sep 20, 2011 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions
well done.
Team Greg Jones
Team Jerry Reese
by BigBlueIntervention on Sep 20, 2011 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Webster, Barden, JPP, Jacobs.....I love them all
I even love TT but i’ll be damned if i’m gonna slander the kid just to prove Cweb > TT
i just call a spade a spade…
TeamJPP
racist
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
by Rorschach44 on Sep 20, 2011 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions
but they're not spades
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
by Rorschach44 on Sep 20, 2011 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions
HEY! What about the special teams block by SASH?
He looked good out there at safety, also.
Good against the run…lays people OUT!
nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!
MAKE IT WORK!!!
yeah, that was one hell of a block
1 block = 2 guys down = Kudos
Team Monster:
JPP
"Da Real" Scott
Greg JONES
Herzlich
Paysinger
Jacquin Williams
and SASH
a couple of guys
got Sash’d last night.. I think by the end of the season, he will fully replace Grant.
"Oh god help us all, the metlife blimps are coming, OMGWFTBBQFTW!!!!!!"
"Who needs a Bomar, when one can have a Perriloux"
well if this isnt a glimpse into the future
I dont know what is… Sash and Williams fighting over a loose ball…
"Oh god help us all, the metlife blimps are coming, OMGWFTBBQFTW!!!!!!"
"Who needs a Bomar, when one can have a Perriloux"
escuse me... I mistook this for
the blotched punt return Sash almost picked up…
I say he created it too, because that is who the PR looked at instead of the ball.
"Oh god help us all, the metlife blimps are coming, OMGWFTBBQFTW!!!!!!"
"Who needs a Bomar, when one can have a Perriloux"
Xtra Kudos to Hakeem Nicks.
This guy just continues to do an excellent job week in and week out. And that interference call was a catch.
Factology! Belief is ignorance.
by LoNJDTechnology on Sep 20, 2011 11:04 AM EDT reply actions
I was screaming that...
He is my #1 FF WR.. I wanted justice that was 30 yards right there! lol..
"Oh god help us all, the metlife blimps are coming, OMGWFTBBQFTW!!!!!!"
"Who needs a Bomar, when one can have a Perriloux"
But we got that call so I can deal with it.
Factology! Belief is ignorance.
by LoNJDTechnology on Sep 20, 2011 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions
it we hadnt
I suspect it would have just padded TC win column on challenges… What was it " the ONLY coach with over 50% rating in winning challenges"
"Oh god help us all, the metlife blimps are coming, OMGWFTBBQFTW!!!!!!"
"Who needs a Bomar, when one can have a Perriloux"
Yeah TC is good when it comes to challenges.
Wait a minute, did I just compliment TC?
Factology! Belief is ignorance.
by LoNJDTechnology on Sep 20, 2011 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions
if you want, you could think of it as an insult to the officials...
Because TC really should show up to games in a striped jersey.
He's on mine too
"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning
Agree
In fact, Nicks is our best offensive player. Let’s be honest.
I want more JPP and I want it now!
Duke Calhoune?
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 20, 2011 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions
This could be a long list...
sadly
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MAKE IT WORK!!!
Honestly, he is.
Factology! Belief is ignorance.
by LoNJDTechnology on Sep 20, 2011 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions
I agree...
He’s a baller – for real. Physicality, Mentality, and work ethic all there to make him a star
nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!
MAKE IT WORK!!!
Kudos to the Rams butterfingers that gave us the game
Without the muffed punt and dropped lateral I’m not sure this offense could have done enough to win the game. You’ve got to take a win any way you can, but this game really didn’t help fill me with any confidence. We played no better than we did last week. The Rams just screwed up more than the Skins did.
Ed, I disagree with comparing this bunch to other Giants teams over the decades. I considered many of the older teams to go into a game with “a punchers chance”. We may not have one games pretty, but it wasn’t this kind of sloppy, no heart BS. It was teams full of heart that played hard that might not have been the most precise but they swung hard, hit you in the face and willed their way to some wins.
yes...like Santa Claus on a never-ending Christmas Eve
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And we weren't witht he Eagles and Girls last year?
Capitalization(like the 64 Cent word?) is part of the frggin game.
Did the Rams capitalize on being in the Red Zone four times?
NO.
The game was not given to us. NFL is too good for that. Not even the Colts gave a game away this weekend.
Maybe that is why Spags wasn't in a talkative mood when he met TC at the center of the field following the game.
Factology! Belief is ignorance.
by LoNJDTechnology on Sep 20, 2011 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions
You saw that
too? Spags wanted no part of that meeting with TC
‘Expert’ – from the adjective *pert*, meaning ‘lively’ or ‘effective,’ and the prefix *ex-*, meaning ‘not.’
"saying you are right when you’re wrong only gives you the right to be wrong"
An optimist is a person that falls off the empire state building and after 50 floor says so far so good!
Yeah I did, wonder what that was about?
It was all hugs and kisses at the beginning of the game.
Factology! Belief is ignorance.
by LoNJDTechnology on Sep 20, 2011 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm not surprised by Boley's play at all
Giants fans, as with most fans, are quick to abandon a player. He was hurt in 2009 – he had in-season surgery – and missed all of camp. He never got right that season. In 2010 he was playing SAM in Fewell’s scheme, which is something he had never done before. In 2011 he’s healthy and playing the right position.
Team Ghost: Manningham, Sintim, Beckum, Barden, JPP, Anvil, Ross
''It is a tremendous challenge, and I am looking forward to working with these players and re-establishing the New York Giants' tradition of physically controlling the line of scrimmage. 'We want to win the battle at the line of scrimmage, eliminate the disease of turnovers and control field position of special teams.'' -- Tom Coughlin after being hired by NYG on Jan. 7, 2004
I'll admit...
I forgot about Boley but he’s showing up
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showing up...
…a/k/a, stepping up and making big plays.
by Step up and make big plays on Sep 20, 2011 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions
I remember when Boley was catching hell last early last year.
But he has come on strong in recent games.
Factology! Belief is ignorance.
by LoNJDTechnology on Sep 20, 2011 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions
wait wait!!
so what you are trying to say is that we should judge a player based off his injuries???!!?!
That is sin of the land sir.. you are to be banished!!!
ED!!! Ghost is making conclusions based off of reason and logic!!!!
"Oh god help us all, the metlife blimps are coming, OMGWFTBBQFTW!!!!!!"
"Who needs a Bomar, when one can have a Perriloux"
he's prolly our best blitzer too right now
Yes, I am a Giants fan. Now that we got that out of the way....
IMPEACH DOLAN!!!!
I will not - lose! -Jay Z-
Missing BBVers:
Simms-McConkey - FOUND
Step Up and Make Big Plays - FOUND
Blue Gonz - FOUND
BOBBIBLUE - HE'S BAAACCKKK!!!
cjmulrain.....???
The gangs almost all here!
More ridiculousness on First Take...
now these talking heads are saying they’d rather take Bradford over Eli?? Apparently throwing for meaningless stats means more than winning.
I think I am actually gonna do it, as much as it pains me...
Ed, brace yourself. I am giving KG credit. I loved the use of the flex bone backfield with the Jacobs draw. It showed some imagination on KG’s part to use some players. It was not his norm. Follow that up with the quick pass to Nicks and it was a nice 1-2 combo. Unfortunately, the offense could not get more downs to open up the playbook more. I hope this is a new trend for KG. Throw some plays in there that may be out of his comfort zone to call and use your personell better. I am IN NO WAY saying that KG has redeemed himself and is off my “S” list, he is still there. Just saying that I liked a few of his play calls. Knowing how tough I have been on him here, this is a huge step to give him an ounce of kudos.
And that is a respectable thing to do. Kudos to you.
Factology! Belief is ignorance.
by LoNJDTechnology on Sep 20, 2011 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions
kwillie at least to KG
I liked the fact that out of 3 3rd and shorts that i can recall, they picked up 2 with a spread out offense. Good job to our O coordinator. Unfortunately he reverted back to the I form later in the game and we got stuffed again. Stupid.
You down wit JPP?
agreed.. for the most part i was happy with KG last night
tons of runs, play action passes, screens.. this is the kind of stuff that will win us football games
by Plaxico Burress on Sep 20, 2011 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions
I love the 3 back set...
and actual screens when teams are just sending everyone…
I have the give him credit as well, I hate him.. but now its becoming – I love to hate him… lol
"Oh god help us all, the metlife blimps are coming, OMGWFTBBQFTW!!!!!!"
"Who needs a Bomar, when one can have a Perriloux"
yes that play action to Nicks was smart
especially after that nice run by big boy. the whole D thought he was getting it again.
Yes, I am a Giants fan. Now that we got that out of the way....
IMPEACH DOLAN!!!!
I will not - lose! -Jay Z-
Missing BBVers:
Simms-McConkey - FOUND
Step Up and Make Big Plays - FOUND
Blue Gonz - FOUND
BOBBIBLUE - HE'S BAAACCKKK!!!
cjmulrain.....???
The gangs almost all here!
TE Play?
I think Bear Pascoe was terrible, but the rookie form ohio state had another catch and should be utilized more.kind of reminded me of Boss WHEN HE CAME in the mix in 2007.
Ballard has been nice so far
been blocking well and catches the ocasional pass. If he can get slightly more involved in the passing game with over the middle type routes, he could really open up the outisde. so far so good with this kid.
by Plaxico Burress on Sep 20, 2011 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions
How bout kudos to ham
he has 3TD’s and well over 100 yds (in the first half i might add) if Eli hits him on the first 2 routes where he burned the D. The 3rd one is on him tho, didn’t have to leave hisfeet to bring it in. that was a TD for sure
by Gmen_Fan_Forever on Sep 20, 2011 11:12 AM EDT reply actions
There seems to be a sync problem between him and Eli though.
I have given MM a lot of hell lately but he has to be frustrated with the fact that he is getting open and is constantly having to deal with passes that are over and under thrown.
Factology! Belief is ignorance.
by LoNJDTechnology on Sep 20, 2011 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions
its on both him and Eli
Eli seems to always over/under throw him but Ham has no excuse for the one he juggled and hurt his neck/head on.
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 20, 2011 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions
I agree TAWD.
I am trying to stay away from criticizing Eli. I will let his performance speak for itself. However, Cashmere has not been himself. He is a capable WR and has proven this but he does not appear to be on track of out-doing what he did last season.
Factology! Belief is ignorance.
by LoNJDTechnology on Sep 20, 2011 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions
you can criticize Eli
I just did. The two of them never seem to be on the same page
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 20, 2011 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions
And you are correct, Cashmere's injury is his own fault.
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by LoNJDTechnology on Sep 20, 2011 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions
Cashmere?
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 20, 2011 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions
Mario's middle name.
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by LoNJDTechnology on Sep 20, 2011 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions
lol, wow
that’s great
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 20, 2011 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions
Lol. I thought you might find that interesting.
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by LoNJDTechnology on Sep 20, 2011 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions
so what your saying is
mario well always be “Well Dressed” cause he is Cashmere?
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 20, 2011 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions
LMAO!!!
That was the joke.
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by LoNJDTechnology on Sep 20, 2011 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions
took me a minute
to put 2 and 2 together… long night, lol
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 20, 2011 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Understood bro.
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by LoNJDTechnology on Sep 20, 2011 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions
I just got...
after the explanation
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I noticed that too
Ham seems almost too fast for Eli… I think just might be a mental thing with Eli..
"Oh god help us all, the metlife blimps are coming, OMGWFTBBQFTW!!!!!!"
"Who needs a Bomar, when one can have a Perriloux"
It could be.
Eli doesn’t appear to be confident is his ability at all.
Factology! Belief is ignorance.
by LoNJDTechnology on Sep 20, 2011 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions
that could very well be right on point
I gave kudos to KG (grits teeth… forces smile) for “helping” Eli out last night.
"Oh god help us all, the metlife blimps are coming, OMGWFTBBQFTW!!!!!!"
"Who needs a Bomar, when one can have a Perriloux"
Me too.
KG imposed a more balanced attack last night by getting the running game more involved.
Factology! Belief is ignorance.
by LoNJDTechnology on Sep 20, 2011 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions
"The Giants stink defending the pass, but they definitely don't stink defending the run"
I think thats the whole NFL Ed.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
not the eggs. I think close to first in the league defending the pass. 30th against the run.
Team Greg Jones
Team Jerry Reese
by BigBlueIntervention on Sep 20, 2011 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions
And that is our Offensive Game Plan for the week
Run Baby Run!
When its 3rd and long, throw the ball past the marker.
by Fester McDougal on Sep 20, 2011 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions
yes
Team Greg Jones
Team Jerry Reese
by BigBlueIntervention on Sep 20, 2011 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions
STL LBs
Spags has his LBs playing lights out. I was very impressed with the entire unit. They diagnose plays and make sure tackles. So many times I saw Jacobs and Bradshaw break through a hole and an STL LB was there waiting. Laurinitis is a stud.
Team Ghost: Manningham, Sintim, Beckum, Barden, JPP, Anvil, Ross
''It is a tremendous challenge, and I am looking forward to working with these players and re-establishing the New York Giants' tradition of physically controlling the line of scrimmage. 'We want to win the battle at the line of scrimmage, eliminate the disease of turnovers and control field position of special teams.'' -- Tom Coughlin after being hired by NYG on Jan. 7, 2004
Lauranitis is disgusting. If Jones/Goff can come halfway to what he can do, we'll be good to go.
Team Greg Jones
Team Jerry Reese
by BigBlueIntervention on Sep 20, 2011 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions
The kid
was a heady player as a freshman at The Ohio State University, very cerebral!
"Beckum is Beckum, it's a hamstring".....Tommy Couglin
by Great Gatsby on Sep 20, 2011 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm gonna get fired...
because I do nothing after a Giants win
nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!
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ha im having a hard time keeping up this morning
with my actual work
I have not yet begun to procrastinate
crap... thats right
I’m at work… I better do some
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 20, 2011 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions
It's gonna be hilarious when I find out your really my boss
nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!
MAKE IT WORK!!!
.....looks around office
…..to see if anyone else is on BBV… nope just me
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 20, 2011 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions
yeah nice thing is that i have 3 montiors
and a lot of shit to make sure my viewing of BBV is a clandestine operation. But hell everybody else here is always looking clothes or other stuff so I dont feel too bad.
I have not yet begun to procrastinate
I'm more worried about accidentally replying to an inter-office email
with a snide comment about football
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due to the lack of pictures
bbv can be diguised as something official or iportant—until someone posts a sily gif
+100000
any time my employees come in… I just keep typing as if it is something important…
"Oh god help us all, the metlife blimps are coming, OMGWFTBBQFTW!!!!!!"
"Who needs a Bomar, when one can have a Perriloux"
it IS something important! ;)
by Step up and make big plays on Sep 20, 2011 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions
I stand corrected...
lol
"Oh god help us all, the metlife blimps are coming, OMGWFTBBQFTW!!!!!!"
"Who needs a Bomar, when one can have a Perriloux"
I usally type a comment in my work program, then cut and paste it into BBV. Loooks like I am making notes.. hehehe
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 20, 2011 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions
and since it was a monday night game
i didnt do anything at work yesterday either.. reading pregame stuff all day yesterday, post game stuff all day today… going to be a busy 2nd half of the week lol
by Plaxico Burress on Sep 20, 2011 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions
BAAS
on that awesome block to free Bradshaw on the 4th quarter screen play for like 25 yards
He's still making mistakes
but he’s coming along.
Team Ghost: Manningham, Sintim, Beckum, Barden, JPP, Anvil, Ross
''It is a tremendous challenge, and I am looking forward to working with these players and re-establishing the New York Giants' tradition of physically controlling the line of scrimmage. 'We want to win the battle at the line of scrimmage, eliminate the disease of turnovers and control field position of special teams.'' -- Tom Coughlin after being hired by NYG on Jan. 7, 2004
"Corey Webster can't shut anybody down,"
What in the world??….. i think its very telling that Spags signed off on a gameplan that was built around avoiding Webby like the plague.
Does he have lapses?? yes he is not Nnamdi or Revis but that quote isnt fitting IMO. As for Antrel, its game 2 and he did pretty well in a position he hasnt been locked into like he is now.
and when you compare it to defenses like the Packers who are known for stopping the pass, we really arent that bad, seems like most good defenses are struggling with the pass.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
Nnamdi + Revis = Romo's non-throwing arm
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Thought CWEB deserved a kudo
With the pass defense falling to crap, and basically not getting much safety help, he played disciplined and didn’t give up that much
"That's mostly fans who say that kind of stuff and they really don't understand the process. We have good players on the team. We're not looking to go out and make every sexy splash that can be made. We make solid football decisions. That's been happening for a long time," Reese said
So...a satellite is falling to Earth soon?
Hmmm…can we get Reese onto this satellite so we can push him onto his blimp during reentry?
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lol
i was suprised that there was no mention of firing up the blimp this morning.
I have not yet begun to procrastinate
ha...I heard the reall reason SS left was because he wasn't invited onto the blimp
he’ll have the last laugh when the pushing starts
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no, it was because
he WAS invited onto the blimp. we all know that once you go on the blimp, you never come off it.
by Plaxico Burress on Sep 20, 2011 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions
oh you come off it
but its not at ground level
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 20, 2011 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions
with JR's LBerzzz selctions in this year's draft
we might not need to give him the blimp treatment just yet. Greg Jones and Jaquin Williams have looked really good for rookies so far
by Plaxico Burress on Sep 20, 2011 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions
One additional thought based on observations last night and vs. WAS...
….we gotta get Kiwi back on the line. He is a solid tackler at the LB position but he is useless in coverage.
by Step up and make big plays on Sep 20, 2011 11:26 AM EDT reply actions
+1
I would only have Kiwi at LB on running downs or if he was going to blitz. He did make a nice tackle to prevent a first down on a third down completion.
by Tucker Fredrickson on Sep 20, 2011 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions
Great point
He can’t cover any TEs or RB in space. I don’t why they have in pass coverage or why he still at LB when we have all these young and hungry LBs ready to play.
Greg Jones will bring it and serve notice in the NFL
"Hello...you play to win the game."
He did look a little lost in space on a couple of plays.
by oldschoolblue64 on Sep 20, 2011 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions
Which ones??
seemed like he wasnt lost at all.
Some plays are just too mush for a 6’6 265lb dude in space but he looked very loose out there.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
plus, he is getting re-acclimated at the position after not playing football for a year
on a defense that has a weak secondary
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yea he does stink in pass protection
but blitzing him from the LB/joker postion is lethal.
by Plaxico Burress on Sep 20, 2011 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions
How about some love for Danny Ware
and KG for calling his number on two third down plays that worked.
by Tucker Fredrickson on Sep 20, 2011 11:28 AM EDT reply actions
I know, right?
We have six third down conversions thus far on the season; two of them belong to DJ Ware.
FREE WARE!
by Step up and make big plays on Sep 20, 2011 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions
Pretty teams
Go back decades and you realize this franchise has never had ‘pretty’ teams.
I was partial to the 2008 Giants. until they stopped being pretty.
‘Expert’ – from the adjective *pert*, meaning ‘lively’ or ‘effective,’ and the prefix *ex-*, meaning ‘not.’
"saying you are right when you’re wrong only gives you the right to be wrong"
An optimist is a person that falls off the empire state building and after 50 floor says so far so good!
definitely a pretty team.
Team Greg Jones
Team Jerry Reese
by BigBlueIntervention on Sep 20, 2011 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions
with a pretty ugly loss on MNF to the Browns thhat season...
…pretty teams also lose ugly from time to time.
by Step up and make big plays on Sep 20, 2011 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions
Forgot that game
so they were mostly pretty in ’08
‘Expert’ – from the adjective *pert*, meaning ‘lively’ or ‘effective,’ and the prefix *ex-*, meaning ‘not.’
"saying you are right when you’re wrong only gives you the right to be wrong"
An optimist is a person that falls off the empire state building and after 50 floor says so far so good!
they looked great
prompting some fans to expect the crash
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I'm sure it was mentioned
but I definitely like that the coordinators put in some adjustments in this game. Gilbride called a much better game.
And Fewell was reacting for most of the game, even if some of the measures didn’t work (E.g. benching Ross and Coe gives up a TD)
Self-praise is for losers. Be a winner. Stand for something. Always have class, and be humble.
-John Madden
I like the switch to Coe, even if it backfired, for one reason:
it should send a message to Ross that it is about the best interests of the team above all else, and then if he wants to stay on the playing field he needs to improve his play.
by Step up and make big plays on Sep 20, 2011 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions
You mean
Step up and make big plays? Any plays?
I really don’t think he has the ability to cover. Just does not and needs to be replaced and cut next year. Let’s see what is out there.
We will have TT back (hopefully healthy), the Prince and CWeb.
All the Giants should play like Mark Bavaro.
Tom Quinn Must Go!
It is equally worthless when people are always optimistic or always pessimistic. Either way I take their opinion with a pound of salt because I know they only have one setting. I post my own thoughts, not what either side wants to read.
by UnknownJintsFan on Sep 20, 2011 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions
kudos
to Greg Jones nice goal line read. I know he’s young but he shows flashes of being good.
to Eli and the RB’s for a strong second half against a heavy blitz team. Much has been made of our shaky o-line, but Spags sends blitzers all the time. and our backs and Eli made the necessary reads to keep the ball in our hands for a lot of the second half.
As Ed said welcome back Tuck. The guy changes the game for us
And lastly.. A kwillie to Aaron Ross. as many times as he hurt us last night is as many times as he made a nice play to help us. If he can just become more consistent he could be serviceable.
You down wit JPP?
Blitzing
Given the coverage issues in our secondary, I think we need to amp up the number of blitzes we use per game. I noticed during the 1st 2 games, we seemed to have more success against the pass when we blitzed and put pressure on the QB. All of the big passing plays we gave up are when the opposing QB had enough time to smoke a cigar in the pocket.
People want to kill Eli for his awful start...
And I did too. But still, it was another typical start for Giant receivers, with multiple dropped passes coming in that stretch. Quarterbacks need to get into a rhythm, and Giant receivers over the past few years have made that very tough on Eli.
That’s not to let him off the hook entirely. But, he did bounce back to finish the game up strong, and I think he needed that kind of game to get him back to form. And it is a good thing that we have a quarterback who can play awfully early, and shake that off completely to finish the game up.
We also forget that Eli is having to coach a lot of new guys as he goes. New O-line and several new receivers means that he’s got to do a lot of extra work pre-snap just to make sure guys are on the same page. I mean, for fuck’s sake, we had Stokely out there four days from signing him.
What I will say though, is thank God for Hakeem Nicks. He is the real deal. Was anybody else wishing Coughlin challenged the catch on that pass interference call, just so Nicks would get credit for what was an immaculate one-handed grab (originally ruled incomplete)?
+1 on Nicks
that was already covered in this thread… I lost out on some FF points because of that.. But I wanted it overruled just so Nicks could be like “Eli?? psht…. Unstoppable, Hakeem Nicks is”
"Oh god help us all, the metlife blimps are coming, OMGWFTBBQFTW!!!!!!"
"Who needs a Bomar, when one can have a Perriloux"
dare i say it...
LB is no longer a liability
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
Giant LB'z SUCK!!? Mark Herzlich, Greg Jones,Spencer Paysinger...Maybe not..
HOW DARE UU
Team Greg Jones
Team Jerry Reese
by BigBlueIntervention on Sep 20, 2011 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions
Da LBzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 20, 2011 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions
knock on some wood please
before Greg Jones and Jaquin Williams both have thier feet severed in a freak exercise bike accident
by Plaxico Burress on Sep 20, 2011 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions
Chad Jones says...
“That’s f’ed up!”
nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!
MAKE IT WORK!!!
JPP
I think you missed a kudos to JPP. The guy is an octopus, he was all over the place with his huge arms. EAGLES SUCK!!!!!!!
by BIGblueintheface on Sep 20, 2011 11:47 AM EDT reply actions
So, what I believe I hear you saying is...
…that you are down with JPP?
by Step up and make big plays on Sep 20, 2011 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions
As long as he keeps stepping up and making big plays
Team Greg Jones
Team Jerry Reese
by BigBlueIntervention on Sep 20, 2011 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions
hard to disagree there...
….“yeah you know me!” is also an acceptable response.
by Step up and make big plays on Sep 20, 2011 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions
Kudos to Jacquian Williams
the pick no one liked or ever heard of has been the Giants rookie linebacker to see the field the most this season. More than the heralded Greg joens, Mark Herzlich or preseason sensation Spencer Paysingers
He was all over in coverage. He’s still a step slow reacting, but his game speed is clearly evident. He was the one who was in the backfield on the Boley play and had a few hurries he looks like an above average blitzer and is plus in coverage.
Williams quietly had 9 tackles yesterday
by EliManCrushing on Sep 20, 2011 11:48 AM EDT reply actions
Yes.
Team Greg Jones
Team Jerry Reese
by BigBlueIntervention on Sep 20, 2011 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions
and its his 2nd live action game EVER!
Some say the 2009 draft class stunk… not really, the 2011 draft class kicked their ass.
"Oh god help us all, the metlife blimps are coming, OMGWFTBBQFTW!!!!!!"
"Who needs a Bomar, when one can have a Perriloux"
Also
did anyone notice that Williams pulled a savvy move by going down for an “injury” right at the same time Grant did. Then was like oh, ok. Stood up and stayed in the game
by EliManCrushing on Sep 20, 2011 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions
I posted on the other blog..I'll certainly take the win..
But it was ugly..We stunk, but the Rams stunk more..We lost more players to injury ..Hixon..his catch was awesome..probably the best highlight reel this season..but now he’s hurt…Eli is still a deer in headlights..the OL can’t block we’re losing receivers..This definitely was an ugly win. The defense held their own, but our secondary flat out sucks..The best play in the secondary was Grant faking an injury to get them out of no huddle..Damn shame whem your only re-course is to cheat.
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
So if he admits it does that make him honest or a masochist?
Remember the “injury” (read: flop) by S Deon Grant last night in first quarter? NFL says no punishment unless he admits he was faking.
"Winning is the most important thing in my life, after breathing. Breathing first, winning next."
by Larry Soprano on Sep 20, 2011 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions
Well it was the best play he made but he should learn to grab his nutsl and
squirm around in pain or something… Geez..The league will look at that and wonder what the hell was the matter with that guy..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
If you're a homeless person
and you are digging through a MacDonalds garbage can and if you dig thru all the scraps of paper and discarded cups and you find a couple of half eaten big macs, and a pack of fries, you’re gonna be a happy guy and the scraps of garbage won’t mean a thing to you.
How’s that for a metaphor?
‘Expert’ – from the adjective *pert*, meaning ‘lively’ or ‘effective,’ and the prefix *ex-*, meaning ‘not.’
"saying you are right when you’re wrong only gives you the right to be wrong"
An optimist is a person that falls off the empire state building and after 50 floor says so far so good!
funny
you were quick
‘Expert’ – from the adjective *pert*, meaning ‘lively’ or ‘effective,’ and the prefix *ex-*, meaning ‘not.’
"saying you are right when you’re wrong only gives you the right to be wrong"
An optimist is a person that falls off the empire state building and after 50 floor says so far so good!
Can the Burger King catch?
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Burger King > Jerry Rice
nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!
MAKE IT WORK!!!
Wendy > Randy Moss
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 20, 2011 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions
I wrote a big long thing
but screw it. Pretty much a long version of this. We’ll see what happens down the stretch, but if they play like they did last night (especially like the first half) against even a decent team, they are going to get blown out. St. Louis put a bow on this game, and it was still close.
I really hate being negative, especially on this forum because there is already plenty of negativity, and I’m glad they won, but aside from the always-stout run defense, I didn’t really see very much improvement from last week. In fact, I’d say the first half was worse than last week.
your mom goes to college
by Oppenheimer919 on Sep 20, 2011 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Going to have to agree with you
I didn’t see much improvement from last week, I am not feeling very confidant about how we match up with the Eagles or teams like Green Bay, Saints, Pats. If we can’t stop the pass, they are not even going to bother running the ball. Ross is just plain scary, I knew we were going to miss TT but now I’m starting to think we won’t be able to recover from that loss.
Well good win, this is going to be a long season. I have no expectations anymore.
by Late for Dinner on Sep 20, 2011 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Its mostly frustrating because
This defense absolutely has the ability to make an offense one dimensional. Unfortunately that one dimension, the passing game, appears to be all that is required. St. Louis had 59 yards rushing, and I think 17 of them came on a single QB scramble. They couldn’t run at ALL… and it didn’t even matter.
I’m taking the same approach, no expectations. I’ll enjoy the wins when they come and cheer for the great plays guys make. I’m just not going to get all hopeful when all the same problems exist but the results wind up different.
your mom goes to college
by Oppenheimer919 on Sep 20, 2011 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Who we going to throw to this week?
If this horseshit keeps up they’ll be asking fans to volunteer..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
The assistant cameraman
may be contender in the slot. Boley will be moved to second string quarterback and push Eli as starter.
ha
He’s great at deflecting passes…he and Eli should get along fine
nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!
MAKE IT WORK!!!
If he wears a helmet,
that pass probably sticks right in the facemask!
Ugly game, but a wins a win
Haven’t heard anyone comment on Manningham’s play? To be honest, he frustrates me more than any other (offensive) player on this team. It seems like he never runs the right routes, drops easiest passes, and then will make some ridiculous play that will have me second guessing myself, only to have him pull the same crap next week. I give him a BIG OLD Kwillie after last night.
You should've seen her face. It was the exact same look my father gave me when I told him I wanted to be a ventriloquist.
the sub-10 Wonderlic might have something to do with it....
….very athletically gifted, capable of stepping up and making big plays, but he’s pretty much a dunderhead upstairs and his game reflects a lot of mental errors.
by Step up and make big plays on Sep 20, 2011 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions
When you go play at Michigan
you cant really expect a whole lot of cranium prowess out of a guy.
I have not yet begun to procrastinate
Yeah I can't figure Manningham out he's off to a terrible start...
Now he has a concussion….Like I said I don’t know who they’ll have to throw the ball to this week…Maybe Manningham’s problem is the first six letters of his name..Manning…If you add the ham he probably feels like he’s Elis rump-roast….
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
I told you folks I was only 6 for 12 in the first game...
I was 12 for 18 last night..I’m doing my part to improve my game…
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Just like the Giants, there is room for improvement
"Winning is the most important thing in my life, after breathing. Breathing first, winning next."
by Larry Soprano on Sep 20, 2011 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Does anyone else feel smarter when your spell-check doesn't ding you on a word that you thought you had no chance of spelling right on your own?
I get a kick out of seeing no rd squiqqly lne…
nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!
MAKE IT WORK!!!
i agree with all except hixon
I don’t think he ends up on this list if he caught the route pass clean like he should have. Eli bounced this ball off the 7 for crying out loud. I believe catch keeps him from a wet willie but not a kudos catch from the replay I saw.
by hit_hard on Sep 20, 2011 12:31 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Am I the only one that thinks Rolle at Safety and Coe at Nickel might be an improvement
Rolle can play and using him out of position isn’t getting it done
"That's mostly fans who say that kind of stuff and they really don't understand the process. We have good players on the team. We're not looking to go out and make every sexy splash that can be made. We make solid football decisions. That's been happening for a long time," Reese said
Not even a Kwillie for the play calling?
I would give them a wet willie but since we’ve won the game I guess a kwillie is more appropriate.
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The play calling was much better
We got the screens we wanted. Stuck with the ground game. I was happy to see Nicks get a “jump ball” – let the big guy make a play. The execution was a lot worse. Dropped passes, Eli misses.
"Looks like I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue."
The 3 man rushes on D
and the draws on 3rd downs are still here.
The Giants are very predictable and that’s not good for them.
New York Giants French blog (with croissants and wine)
But yeah I also have to agree
That there were some good things. I just feel it’s not enough yet to win against big teams.
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Kudos to...
Tom Coughlin for two converted challenges. The first one should not have even been necessary (I mean, considering the new WR rules especially, it was an abomination to rule that a catch).
Wet Willie to the MNF crew…again. Absolutely rode Bradford’s nuts as if he was the second coming of Montana. I can’t believe how good Bradford is already, seeing as he’s one of the best quarterbacks in the league outside of the pocket, and wow, he just makes all the throws.
Wait, what has this guy accomplished?
Also, a former head coach and a former NFL quarterback should know that comparisons of one QB’s performance to another’s during the same game is apples to oranges. They play two different defenses, last time I checked, and a lot of Bradford’s big throws came on awfully bad coverage by Ross. Yes, he was pressured a bit, but there was quite a few times in which he had seven seconds to make a throw. Any quarterback is going to burn you with that much time.
Bradford also threw a lot of beautiful balls
While there were many easy throws (like Grossman), there were also a lot of perfect throws (like Grossman). The Danario Alexander TD over Coe, beautiful ball to a tall WR.
Gilbride or Eli definitely prefer throwing to an open WR, rather than letting WRs make the play.
"Looks like I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue."
passing defence
i think that with osi coming back and(some people are saying this week against the eagles)and tuck and the rest getting more practices together the giants secondary will get better fast.
Sure hope Osi can make it back
Bradford had all day back there, I’m not used to seeing that. Vick is going to kill us if we play that bad next week
by Late for Dinner on Sep 20, 2011 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Our secondary is the weakest link on defense
It looks they can’t cover anybody and Perry Fewell hasn’t figured out how to help them. Are the DBs that bad or it the system they play in?
Greg Jones will bring it and serve notice in the NFL
"Hello...you play to win the game."
Part of the reason our secondary is so bad
Is Perry is afraid to play man, becuase they want to cover for Jones on passing downs so they play a ton of zone now. Jones looks really good against the run, if he can get the coaches trust out there in passing downs, they can play more bump and run and won’t be playing so far off the recievers. Other part is Ross stinks, we are seeing the results of losing both TT and Goff before the season started and we have to adjust to the growing pains
by Late for Dinner on Sep 20, 2011 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions
question
Why wasn’t bradford flagged for intentional grounding with 5min left in the 3rd Q? It looked like he was still in the pocket when he spiked the ball b/c of rolle’s pass rush..?
by GMEN 44 on Sep 20, 2011 2:48 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
don't know if anyone mentioned this already
but how about a kudos for – wait for it — Rocky Bernard! dude was all over the place in the first half. he’s one of the main reasons they had to abandon the run, fat fella wasn’t letting nothing pass his way.
Yes, I am a Giants fan. Now that we got that out of the way....
IMPEACH DOLAN!!!!
I will not - lose! -Jay Z-
Missing BBVers:
Simms-McConkey - FOUND
Step Up and Make Big Plays - FOUND
Blue Gonz - FOUND
BOBBIBLUE - HE'S BAAACCKKK!!!
cjmulrain.....???
The gangs almost all here!
Broken DVR Ed??
How 5 years ago is the DVR? Get NFL Rewind at NFL.com. It’s only $40 bucks for the season and you can rewatch any game anytime from anywhere. I swear I don’t work for the NFL. I just think it’s a good option, and probably more reliable than your DVR.
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