New York Giants' Injuries, And Other Post-Game Notes
Of course the New York Giants could not get through a game without a couple of injuries. You expected anything different?
Wide receivers Mario Manningham (concussion) and Domenik Hixon (left knee) were Monday night's casualties. The severity of both injuries is not yet known.
Thing is, if Manningham does not bobble a pass from Eli Manning that went for a 31-yard reception neither injury happens. Manningham, who was wide open, scores easily if he makes a clean catch. Instead, he falls to the turf, bangs his head and gets a concussion. A couple of plays later, Hixon makes one of the best catches you will see, but in the process gets his left foot pinned underneath him and re-injuries his surgically repaired knee. Hixon played briefly in the second half, but coach Tom Coughlin said Hixon "just didn't feel right."
Here, by the way, is Hixon's catch:
Domenik Hixon juggling catch (via atcjzero)
How bad was cornerback Aaron Ross Monday night? It's no secret that Ross, benched for part of the second half, will be on the 'Wet Willies' list later on. Aaron, dude, the idea is to cover guys -- not give them 15 yards of space to do whatever they want. Oh, and when they make a catch and lay on the ground you have to touch them -- in case you forgot, this is not college anymore.
Coach Tom Coughlin tried to prop Ross up after the game.
"It [the benching] was an attempt to find a solution to one of the problems we were having. There’s nothing wrong with playing a lot of people. It’s not an indictment on anybody. Just trying to solve an issue. He went right back into the game and he was our punt returner at the end of the game. Did a nice job as well," Coughlin said.
Michael Coe gave up a 19-yard touchdown pass to Danario Alexander while he was in the game. At least, though, Coe was in the same area code as Alexander on the play. It was simply a really nice throw by Rams quarterback Sam Bradford and a better catch.
Here is a question. Where was 10-year veteran Brian Williams? The former Atlanta corner, signed as a free agent right before the start of the season, has been virtually unused in two games. The fact that the Giants went to Coe before Williams tells you they can't like what they see from the veteran.
The Giants secondary has now given up 305 yards passing to Washington quarterback Rex Grossman and 331 to Bradford. What on earth will happen when the Giants play a team with quality wide receivers and a top-flight quarterback? Like, oh, the Philadelphia Eagles.
Michael Boley's 65-yard touchdown return on a fumble was the first touchdown of his seven-year career.
"Boley’s play is tremendous. I’ve seen that same thing happen a lot of times where guys just leave the ball there and think it’s an incomplete pass," said Justin Tuck. "I think that happened last year, or two years ago. We weren’t prepared that game. That could have been another pitch away from a game-changing situation. Tonight, Boley saw it."
Other Notes
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Hixon
I went looking for reports. He is actually saying it was both. He is also saying this morning that he is fine. It’s early, and stuff is just starting to come out so the info is changing.
by Ed Valentine on Sep 20, 2011 8:46 AM EDT up reply actions
ACL ghosts.
I tore my ACL and for years after, I kept thinking I had reinjured it. I kept going to the doctor and they kept telling me it was fine. The mechanics of the knee are always wonky after and the memory of the injury keeps conjuring itself. Hopefully that’s all it was for Hixon.
by DJ Farnaquelhe on Sep 20, 2011 9:14 AM EDT up reply actions
same for me with my MCL
I keep strengthening my quads around it to provide more support, but I never feel confident in it, and I slightly hyperextended the knee a little a couple of weeks ago horsing around and pretending to karate kick someone like the karate kid.
Yes, I am immature. And 45 years old.
"Sometimes nothing can be a real cool hand."
Do you guys know if Osi will be playing this Sunday?
"If I can get you to think twice, I'm in your head."
-Brian Dawkins
"They just tried to do a criss-cross route or something. I just hid a little bit, saw the ball in the air and I do what I do - go get the ball."
-The President CB
Nnamdi, Asante, DRC; The Three Graces...charm, beauty, and creativity.
Does'nt matter
Jaws could come out of the booth and play for the Eagles and he’ll still throw for 300 + yards this week. I would not be overly concerned if I was an Eagles fan going into this game about anything even if Kafta or whatever his name is has to play, hell he’ll probabbly play well and you guys could trade him for antother CB
After this past sunday, I’m not gonna count or guarantee anything.
"If I can get you to think twice, I'm in your head."
-Brian Dawkins
"They just tried to do a criss-cross route or something. I just hid a little bit, saw the ball in the air and I do what I do - go get the ball."
-The President CB
Nnamdi, Asante, DRC; The Three Graces...charm, beauty, and creativity.
Aaron Ross
can reclaim the nickname “toast” from Elvis Patterson. Do folks remember him?
"Beckum is Beckum, it's a hamstring".....Tommy Couglin
by Great Gatsby on Sep 20, 2011 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions
sadly yes
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 20, 2011 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions
Also assigned to Jeremy Lincoln
In trying to scramble out of a hole, it sometimes digs it deeper. ~Wellington Mara
I always root for the defense. ~Wellington Mara
Unknown
We will know later in the week. I think it’s possible, but I wouldn’t count on it.
by Ed Valentine on Sep 20, 2011 8:47 AM EDT up reply actions
guessing he sits it out
Maybe it is just me but I don’t think he is super motivated to get on the field this year.
by Madhops on Sep 20, 2011 9:53 AM EDT via iPhone app up reply actions
JPP probably could :)
"Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."
LET'S GO RANGERS!!!
Sorry
to hear about more injuries. Hope to see the Giants as close to full strength as possible this weekend. I love a good NFC Beast battle..
I will always be pulling for you #20.
April 20, 1996 - February 28, 2009
I dont.. not b/c i hope demise on Vick.(im from VA, and a Vick supporter)
But b/c we are still injured and still need to improve in a lot of areas. Ill take the eagles at full strength the next go round’
"they try to do what he do, and been where he's been, but they get folded in two.....he's the dude"
Agreed.
Jackson, Maclin, Advant, MCoy, will pose too many problems for our defense in its present state. Not trying to float the Eagles boat but rationally speaking we would be at a serious disadvantage.
Factology! Belief is ignorance.
by LoNJDTechnology on Sep 20, 2011 9:48 AM EDT up reply actions
Understated
We play like this next Sunday, it will be the first triple digit loss in our history.
Someone, somehow has to light a fire under this team.
I don’t see who, at least from the coaching standpoint.
All the Giants should play like Mark Bavaro.
Tom Quinn Must Go!
It is equally worthless when people are always optimistic or always pessimistic. Either way I take their opinion with a pound of salt because I know they only have one setting. I post my own thoughts, not what either side wants to read.
by UnknownJintsFan on Sep 20, 2011 9:53 AM EDT up reply actions
overstated
But if we play like we did in the first half. We’ll be in a quick hole.
"they try to do what he do, and been where he's been, but they get folded in two.....he's the dude"
Of course
we may be going into the game with the all-mighty Kafka. Actually I thought he played well but to have to plan an entirely different offensive scheme in one week might prove costly. They are saying Vick shows no lingering signs of a concussion but that may not mean much these days, We shall see.
I will always be pulling for you #20.
April 20, 1996 - February 28, 2009
Honest opinion
I have had several concussions playing football and rugby. 10 years later, I wish I was not playing the hero and trying to play through them. I think no matter the severity of the concussion, a player should be mandated to sit out at least a game or two. Wait, I thought that was already the case. Maybe I am wrong. Concussions are no joke. Thankfully I have no neurological deficiencies, but sometimes I get headaches that I attribute to past concussions.
Yeah man
I agree. I was lucky enough to never suffer a concussion, that I’m aware of anyways. I would have no problem with Vick sitting this one out.
I will always be pulling for you #20.
April 20, 1996 - February 28, 2009
I wouldn't chance it
But then again, I also never played for $100 million either. Imagine if I did. I mean, I played injured for no reward, other than for the love of the game.
Crosby for the Pitt Penguins
has pretty much sat out an entire year from his. This is an injury that in my opinion is just too serious to take any shortcuts for getting back on the field. I hope both Manningham and Vick are fine but dont rush to get back.
I have not yet begun to procrastinate
The concussions in Hockey tend to be more serious then football.
NOt the number of concussions, but the severity of them. Football they seem to be mild concussions for the most part, and in Hockey there tend to be some severe ones more often. Football helmets have much better protective padding in them then Hockey helmets. Trust me as someone who plays Hockey currently, and played football in HS, and has suffered two concussions from Hockey, I’d take a football helmet any day of the week. It’s why you see guys miss a week in football from a concussion, and guys in the NHL miss months. Ask Eric Lindros how he feels about them, you’ll probably just get a little drool from him.
Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
SASH
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 20, 2011 9:30 AM EDT up reply actions
Great points
I didnt take into consideration the level of protection the two helmets differ.
I have not yet begun to procrastinate
Yea, you'd be surprised.
Hockey helmets are an egg shell.
Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
SASH
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 20, 2011 9:57 AM EDT up reply actions
The Giants
haven’t been at full strength, since before the season started.
"Beckum is Beckum, it's a hamstring".....Tommy Couglin
by Great Gatsby on Sep 20, 2011 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions
Whoa - I didn't get this memo either...
Aaron, dude, the idea is to cover guys — not give them 15 yards of space to do whatever they want.
I like that they put Coe in. Ross was playing poorly and we had a 21 point lead…good time to get a young kid some MNF real life playing time.
nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!
MAKE IT WORK!!!
That is the second time Ross has done this.
Oh, and when they make a catch and lay on the ground you have to touch them — in case you forgot, this is not college anymore.
Factology! Belief is ignorance.
by LoNJDTechnology on Sep 20, 2011 9:08 AM EDT up reply actions
I felt they should have done the same with Eli
in the first half… My god he completely sucked… 2 of 11 for 20 something yards…
"Oh god help us all, the metlife blimps are coming, OMGWFTBBQFTW!!!!!!"
"Who needs a Bomar, when one can have a Perriloux"
You do this to your 3rd string corner.
Not starting qb. And look..it panned out by keeping him in b/c he shook whatver rust off he had and played well in the second half. Aside from a poorly thrown deep ball. Is it just me, but Eli’s deep balls are almost always terrible. Like he just heaves it up. Alsmost never have I seen a deep pass by him go instride with the wr. But I still love you ELI!
"they try to do what he do, and been where he's been, but they get folded in two.....he's the dude"
Eli throws one of the better deep balls in teh game.
It’s long known his accuracy actually improves on deep balls, he struggles with the medium passes of 15 yards.
Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
SASH
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 20, 2011 9:53 AM EDT up reply actions
sheeit
"they try to do what he do, and been where he's been, but they get folded in two.....he's the dude"
look it up.
His completion % is higher on deep balls than on medium balls. I didn’t make it up.
Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
SASH
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 20, 2011 9:58 AM EDT up reply actions
Noway
I dont care what any stat says. ive seen Eli throw the deep ball. its either under thrown or over thrown. stats mean nothing there
Lol.
Ignoring stats, yet trying to prove a point that directly conflicts with what the stats say. Interesting.
Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
SASH
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 20, 2011 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions
You said Eli throws one of the best deep balls in the game
Jesus could break down highlight film and preach the same i wouldnt fall for that. Because i watched every game of Eli’s NFL career and he DOESNT throw a great long ball
I agree, MH&C
Eli can go down-field with the best of them
nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!
MAKE IT WORK!!!
You only remember the bad throws.
Selective memory. If you decide to actually look it up, he’s got one of the higher completion % among active QBs.
Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
SASH
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 20, 2011 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions
lol. ok then.
Your opinion can be classified as illogical then. You sound like a 5 year old kid that was told he couldn’t get ice cream.
Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
SASH
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 20, 2011 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions
nto being emotional.
You’re being irrational. Ignoring stats that directly correlate to proving what you said is incorrect. And your witty response was No.
Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
SASH
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 20, 2011 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Looks good without Nicks or Smith on the field for a full year and a decimated Oline
Manning had 57 20+ yrd pass plays last year and 7 over 40 yards
Brady had 53 and 9
Peyton 59 and 8
Rievrs 65 and 14
nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!
MAKE IT WORK!!!
Did I say that?
Just saying that Eli doesn’t stink when it comes to putting the ball up
nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!
MAKE IT WORK!!!
Aren’t you the guy that ignores QB stats left in right when they aren’t in Eli’s favor?
I would slow down with calling others illogical.
"Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."
LET'S GO RANGERS!!!
Ross
Ross has officially been inducted to the CC Brown hall of shame.
Moving forward he will be know as CC Ross !!
I like it
He sucks. Occasional good play but totally inadequate.
All the Giants should play like Mark Bavaro.
Tom Quinn Must Go!
It is equally worthless when people are always optimistic or always pessimistic. Either way I take their opinion with a pound of salt because I know they only have one setting. I post my own thoughts, not what either side wants to read.
by UnknownJintsFan on Sep 20, 2011 9:11 AM EDT up reply actions
just sprayed coffee all over my keyboard and monitor.
"I’m not trying to be like Peyton; I’m trying to do it the way I know how." -Eli Manning
by BleedBigBlue on Sep 20, 2011 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions
I vote Kwillie for Ross
He got picked on a lot, and played horrible in zone coverage, but other than one play, he looked solid in man coverage, and kept points off the board on at least 3 different plays.
Fewell HAS to see that Ross and Webby struggle in zone and both do better in man… right?
and while I'm at it:
Kudos to TC: He may as well show up in a striped jersey, because he’s better at calling the game than the actual officiating crew.
Wet Willie to the officiating crews: 2nd straight game where Giants D-linemen were getting obviously mugged, and they didn’t throw the flags. Also, missing the call on the Nicks 1st down play was bad. He was OBVIOUSLY in bounds (oh, and I’m miffed that they didn’t anything on the tackle on Hixon when the guy had his arms around his throat).
Well
In fairness I think we also got a couple of bogus calls in our favor. I can remember at least two Pass Interference calls (and maybe 3 honestly) that I thought were iffy to outright bad. Our guys do get held a ton though without getting the calls. Maybe we need them to start flopping when they get held or something.
by Midnight Blue on Sep 20, 2011 9:11 AM EDT up reply actions
Id like to see how many times Ross and Coe was targeted
it seemed like every play in the second half.
I have not yet begun to procrastinate
Ross was targeted
in my count… almost 75% of the time in the first half.
J.McDaniels singled out Ross and PF Zone coverage Scheme. It was always directed to D. Alexander. Ross was lined up on him most of the time.
"Oh god help us all, the metlife blimps are coming, OMGWFTBBQFTW!!!!!!"
"Who needs a Bomar, when one can have a Perriloux"
Ross played terribly at times
but he also played very good at times. That play where he made a gamble on the ball and almost picked it I haven’t seen a Giants CB do since he was doing it in 2007
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
Thankfully, Fewell switched to more man coverage after the debacle of the first quarter and watching them throw the ball all over us two straight possessions.
Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
SASH
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 20, 2011 9:32 AM EDT up reply actions
Heeeellllck nah
He played decent at times. But the bad plays were BAD. And the goalline man coverage he had…ABISMAL. Who back pedals and runs backwards at the snap??? We are lucky as hell that Boley tipped that pass because the slant route was WIDE open.
"they try to do what he do, and been where he's been, but they get folded in two.....he's the dude"
well....if MM woulda caught that pass cleanly he wouldn't have been hurt, nor would have Hixon
but if Hixon would caught his pass cleanly he wouldn’t have been hurt either.
that ball hit hixon in the damn shoulder….
catch the damn ball guys.
TeamJPP
yea it did.
"they try to do what he do, and been where he's been, but they get folded in two.....he's the dude"
Hixon also had to reach over top of the defender
ball was thrown behind him.. should have not been caught at all..
"Oh god help us all, the metlife blimps are coming, OMGWFTBBQFTW!!!!!!"
"Who needs a Bomar, when one can have a Perriloux"
Kiwi is a bad linebacker.
Play herzlich, play Williams, play whoever. Just don’t put Kiwi in the backfield and ask him to cover receivers and/or drop back into zones. It’s just not good.
Agreed
I think we should ease into this. Give them some reps and move Kiwi back to DE except for running downs.
All the Giants should play like Mark Bavaro.
Tom Quinn Must Go!
It is equally worthless when people are always optimistic or always pessimistic. Either way I take their opinion with a pound of salt because I know they only have one setting. I post my own thoughts, not what either side wants to read.
by UnknownJintsFan on Sep 20, 2011 9:18 AM EDT up reply actions
Jones and Williams
Both played really really well..
I was impressed more so with Jones, I think we have found our star Middle LB
"Oh god help us all, the metlife blimps are coming, OMGWFTBBQFTW!!!!!!"
"Who needs a Bomar, when one can have a Perriloux"
that one play
where he shot up the middle of the field and laid the wood… I was hurting from my barstool… lol
He looks like he could be a monster.
"Oh god help us all, the metlife blimps are coming, OMGWFTBBQFTW!!!!!!"
"Who needs a Bomar, when one can have a Perriloux"
Jones stuffing the run
for a 2 yard loss after they got down to the 1 yard line. I think he’ll be ok in run support.
Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
SASH
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 20, 2011 9:35 AM EDT up reply actions
They did that plenty
I bet Williams and Boley got twice as many snaps as any other LB on the team.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
Boley is playing out of his mind this season.
2 very good games. Haven’t seen him play like this since he was a Falcon.
Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
SASH
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 20, 2011 9:35 AM EDT up reply actions
Agreed, Boley has definitely been one of the major bright spots.
Factology! Belief is ignorance.
by LoNJDTechnology on Sep 20, 2011 9:41 AM EDT up reply actions
Jacquain Williams seems to be a steal too
he was the reason Bradford had to throw wide on that screen play
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
by Rorschach44 on Sep 20, 2011 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions
Ross is my boy
but I think the major issue with regards to him is, communication.. He needs to convey to the saftey if he needs help or if he has him alone…
I dont know whether it was by design or not, but PF has got to keep him on Bump and Run… It should only be another game or two before Ross gets his sea dog legs… Remember he hasnt really played in 2 years.
IMO he deserves a kwillie.
"Oh god help us all, the metlife blimps are coming, OMGWFTBBQFTW!!!!!!"
"Who needs a Bomar, when one can have a Perriloux"
Where is Brian Williams?
Put Williams opposite of Corey and let Ross play the nickel until Prince comes back. I’m a big Aaron Ross fan, but he just isn’t a starting corner. Danario Alexander looked like T.O. last night…imagine what Maclin is gonna do with the kind of 15 yard cushion Alexander was given.
Aaron Ross has fans?
At least you guys picked a good day to come out and admit it. Sometimes you can be too honest
I am a fan of Kevin Gilbride and I don't care what you say
by Spider Lockhart on Sep 20, 2011 9:34 AM EDT up reply actions
You don't have to backpedal
Maybe your lucky number is 31, that would be reason enough. Just surprised.
I am a fan of Kevin Gilbride and I don't care what you say
by Spider Lockhart on Sep 20, 2011 9:42 AM EDT up reply actions
D. Alexander
is the Rams next big thing… I watched him in preseason and drafted him for my FFL.. only to watch him not suit up last week. He is a monster and will make a run for rookie of the year.
Ross suffered CC-itis last night… But give him a couple of games to get back into the feel of it…
"Oh god help us all, the metlife blimps are coming, OMGWFTBBQFTW!!!!!!"
"Who needs a Bomar, when one can have a Perriloux"
CC-itis :-0!!!!
That’s usually a fatal affliction and the only known cure is removal from the lineup, and if necessary, the roster. I think he should ask for a third opinion, as my second one is “he isn’t very good”.
the preventative measures were taken
Ross was removed.. Hopefully, they treated him early enough, and may return next week healthy as new.
"Oh god help us all, the metlife blimps are coming, OMGWFTBBQFTW!!!!!!"
"Who needs a Bomar, when one can have a Perriloux"
maybe he needs microfracture surgery
on his skull. They can inject stem cells to help him grow a brain.
"I’m not trying to be like Peyton; I’m trying to do it the way I know how." -Eli Manning
by BleedBigBlue on Sep 20, 2011 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions
Really??
It was my impression that he was… my bad.. or was he the WR that was injured at the beginning of last year and was IR’d?
"Oh god help us all, the metlife blimps are coming, OMGWFTBBQFTW!!!!!!"
"Who needs a Bomar, when one can have a Perriloux"
Unless Maclin is all of a sudden 6"5 then I'd be worried.
Alexander and Gibson are really tall and most of the balls they caught were ones that were about 11ft in the air when they caught them.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
In other news...
Porsche will outperform Yugo….
Sigh.
Didn’t Maclin suffer a concussion in the Falcons game?
Factology! Belief is ignorance.
by LoNJDTechnology on Sep 20, 2011 9:44 AM EDT up reply actions
Don't think so
13 catches for 171 yards on Sunday. Went 13 on 17 targets, but dropped a big one in the 4th quarter
I am a fan of Kevin Gilbride and I don't care what you say
by Spider Lockhart on Sep 20, 2011 9:48 AM EDT up reply actions
don't think so
he came back in the game
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 20, 2011 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions
After the Dunta Robinson hit?
Factology! Belief is ignorance.
by LoNJDTechnology on Sep 20, 2011 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions
yeap
he had a huge catch from Kafka then on the last drive… missed the 4th down catch. He only sat out a few plays after the dirty hit.
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 20, 2011 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions
I dont buy that..
He is getting better every week, and we already know what his potential is… Give him another week or two.
"Oh god help us all, the metlife blimps are coming, OMGWFTBBQFTW!!!!!!"
"Who needs a Bomar, when one can have a Perriloux"
Ross Potential?
How long has he been in the league? its the same song.
Im just saying Rorschach is making it seem like the Eagles Receivers arent a problem. They are much better than the Rams
And there are two of them that are good
I am a Giants fan but not delusional.
We have to play better, Ross specifically or else. R44 still is hoping Beckum comes back and saves the day.
Not gonna happen.
All the Giants should play like Mark Bavaro.
Tom Quinn Must Go!
It is equally worthless when people are always optimistic or always pessimistic. Either way I take their opinion with a pound of salt because I know they only have one setting. I post my own thoughts, not what either side wants to read.
by UnknownJintsFan on Sep 20, 2011 9:56 AM EDT up reply actions
god forbid someone still roots for the Giants....
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
by Rorschach44 on Sep 20, 2011 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions
Ross played good against the Eagles last year
all I know is that the Rams receivers made their plays cuz they’re really tall. The Eagles receivers are not tall. Put in the same situations those guys don’t make those catches.
Keep saying everybody sucks if you please.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
by Rorschach44 on Sep 20, 2011 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions
you're giving up on Maclin vs. Ross
why stop there? Everybody sucks
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
by Rorschach44 on Sep 20, 2011 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions
EVERYONE STOP SAYING WHAT YOU THINK
@We should all be cutting and pasting R44’s posts as ours.
Nobody is permitted to say anything critical.
We are not entitled to our own opinions. This is not a blog, it is a dictatorship. Ed is just a pawn, operated by R44@
All the Giants should play like Mark Bavaro.
Tom Quinn Must Go!
It is equally worthless when people are always optimistic or always pessimistic. Either way I take their opinion with a pound of salt because I know they only have one setting. I post my own thoughts, not what either side wants to read.
by UnknownJintsFan on Sep 20, 2011 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions
Oops, the sarcasm font does not work over paragraphs
Consider the above sarcasm please.
All the Giants should play like Mark Bavaro.
Tom Quinn Must Go!
It is equally worthless when people are always optimistic or always pessimistic. Either way I take their opinion with a pound of salt because I know they only have one setting. I post my own thoughts, not what either side wants to read.
by UnknownJintsFan on Sep 20, 2011 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions
LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Factology! Belief is ignorance.
by LoNJDTechnology on Sep 20, 2011 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions
Grow up. Stop overreacting, and learn how to have an intelligent discussion.
Its childish and its frankly getting old.
"Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."
LET'S GO RANGERS!!!
LOL
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by Rorschach44 on Sep 20, 2011 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions
I wish I got a “whatever you say” instead.
"Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."
LET'S GO RANGERS!!!
the way you're going you'll get nothing but
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
by Rorschach44 on Sep 20, 2011 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions
If you are talking to me
You have the wrong target.
I am saying R44 cannot accept the opinions of others without sarcasm or outright nastiness.
I hope you are just misdirecting your comment. Don’t encourage the bad boy.
All the Giants should play like Mark Bavaro.
Tom Quinn Must Go!
It is equally worthless when people are always optimistic or always pessimistic. Either way I take their opinion with a pound of salt because I know they only have one setting. I post my own thoughts, not what either side wants to read.
by UnknownJintsFan on Sep 20, 2011 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions
I was talking to RR44, with his tired old responses.
"Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."
LET'S GO RANGERS!!!
Thank you
I thought so.
I am tired of it too. Somehow he think sarcasm and nastiness is more important that facts.
His opinion is gold, the rest of our thoughts are poop.
All the Giants should play like Mark Bavaro.
Tom Quinn Must Go!
It is equally worthless when people are always optimistic or always pessimistic. Either way I take their opinion with a pound of salt because I know they only have one setting. I post my own thoughts, not what either side wants to read.
by UnknownJintsFan on Sep 21, 2011 8:23 AM EDT up reply actions
If you say so
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
by Rorschach44 on Sep 20, 2011 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions
not for nothing
but Maclin abused the crap outta TT last year
so i don’t think what he’s going to do to Ross….is going to be any worse.
unless of course they put Cweb on him.
let Ross match up w/ Djack
TeamJPP
probably the plan
since Ross is faster than Cweb, and a better straight line runner.
Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
SASH
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 20, 2011 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Good Question?
Why sign the guy, and play Coe?
"Beckum is Beckum, it's a hamstring".....Tommy Couglin
by Great Gatsby on Sep 20, 2011 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions
Congrats on the
It really stinks that you guys keep getting hit with injuries – hope they aren’t too serious to Hixon and Manningham. Hixon’s catch was an amazing feat of concentration. No matter what complaints you have about the Giants play, you have to give some major kudos to the red zone defense which looked amazing and came up huge. Holding the Rams to 3 field goals was huge in helping you get the win.
"I just build our guys up. If it's trash talking that I believe in our football team, then, yes, I agree with that statement. I'm the biggest trash talker there is." Rex Ryan
Thanks
you guys need more fans like you. lol
"Oh god help us all, the metlife blimps are coming, OMGWFTBBQFTW!!!!!!"
"Who needs a Bomar, when one can have a Perriloux"
I grew up in a house full of Giants fans
As long as we’re not playing each other, I always root for them. New York first and all that.
"I just build our guys up. If it's trash talking that I believe in our football team, then, yes, I agree with that statement. I'm the biggest trash talker there is." Rex Ryan
by OldJetsFanatic on Sep 20, 2011 9:59 AM EDT up reply actions
this. very much
i’ve never really had any true hard feelings towards the Jets. i’d rather see the New York team win than one from say… Dallas or Philadelphia
I'd like to thank the good Lord for making me a Yankee fan.
Jets and Eagles and Dallas fans coming by today to commiserate???
It almost feels like a funeral with all of these guys coming by today saying gentlemanly things. They seem nicer to us than we are to each other.
I am a fan of Kevin Gilbride and I don't care what you say
by Spider Lockhart on Sep 20, 2011 9:40 AM EDT up reply actions
Nah, not a funeral
Just an acknowldgement of the tough injuries you’ve had. Btw, I’m old enough to remember when Spider Lockhart played for you. I was a kid, but I thought it was so cool that his nickname was Spider.
"I just build our guys up. If it's trash talking that I believe in our football team, then, yes, I agree with that statement. I'm the biggest trash talker there is." Rex Ryan
by OldJetsFanatic on Sep 20, 2011 10:01 AM EDT up reply actions
great point
i was really impressed with the Red Zone D. Greg Jones had a big tackle for a loss of 2 on the first Red Zone drive which was huge. Ross did get bailed out on the one slant play by Michael Boley, but give Boley some credit. Alexander made a catch right over Michael Coe, and with Alexander’s height advantage, there wasn’t much Coe could do with the good throw that Sam Bradford made. other than those plays, the Red Zone D was encouraging
I'd like to thank the good Lord for making me a Yankee fan.
At least Ross made the fair catch
Although we were all hoping he’d just let it bounce and not risk a muff
and he made that nice hit
that broke up what was originally a first down, until TC proved he is the best at Reviews…
Also almost had an Int.
He did a couple of things really well.. and a couple of things really not so well.
"Oh god help us all, the metlife blimps are coming, OMGWFTBBQFTW!!!!!!"
"Who needs a Bomar, when one can have a Perriloux"
This.
Factology! Belief is ignorance.
by LoNJDTechnology on Sep 20, 2011 9:45 AM EDT up reply actions
But what is Olivia saying there?
Is she just sneezing?
“about time”?
“atta boy”?
“Eagles suck”?
Blue is the color of melancholy and honesty
Green is the color of inexperience, envy and nausea.
Ross
The 2 deep completions that Ross “gave up” I feel were equally, if not more so, Grant’s fault. He was supposed to have deep coverage over the top and was late getting over. The only good thing Grant did was flop on the floor.
Yep...he seems late on everything.
Now in section 133.
by Last year in Sec 127 on Sep 20, 2011 9:50 AM EDT up reply actions
Was sitting around without a job 3 weeks ago
That was why he needed that little nap around the goal line
I am a fan of Kevin Gilbride and I don't care what you say
by Spider Lockhart on Sep 20, 2011 9:51 AM EDT up reply actions
This win was ugly
The Giants are not ready to face the Eagles.
They still make the same mistakes and can only thank luck (not Andrew, not yet) for their win. There were some good plays but overall I thought their performance was ugly.
New York Giants French blog (with croissants and wine)
eeh..
same mistakes..but less of them. Ill take a better day(last night) than the same day(skins game) ANY day
"they try to do what he do, and been where he's been, but they get folded in two.....he's the dude"
Sure
But the Giants cannot feel like they had a good game.
It seems that everyone realizes that they didn’t play very well but like Coughlin says “Talk is cheap, play the game”.
We need the Gmen to play the game 200% against the Eagles. Hell I’m even sure if it will be enough to beat the crap out fo them.
New York Giants French blog (with croissants and wine)
most definitely didnt play a good game.
But as long as we got a W and improved..it doesnt matter. Next week we may witness an entirely different giants team. The talent is here..we just have to play better than we are right now.
"they try to do what he do, and been where he's been, but they get folded in two.....he's the dude"
Na you really can't say it doesn't matter
It matters A LOT! It will matter against the Eagles if the Giants play like that…
New York Giants French blog (with croissants and wine)
The trend is in the right direction
There was improvement as the game went on. I don’t know if it will be fast enough for next week, but better trending up than trending down.
kudos to Michael Boley
For his touchdown spike off the face of some innocent ball boy. What was that all about?
by Madhops on Sep 20, 2011 9:51 AM EDT via iPhone app reply actions
lmao
I put taht on rewind a few times. My girl said.. “Man, whats he got against that guy?”
"they try to do what he do, and been where he's been, but they get folded in two.....he's the dude"
He would have been great in the post-game interview
We had studied a lot of film of the Giants defensive TD celebrations, so we knew they were a dangerous opponent
I am a fan of Kevin Gilbride and I don't care what you say
by Spider Lockhart on Sep 20, 2011 9:58 AM EDT up reply actions
I thought .....
he did but I wasn’t sure. Guess he just happy to get his first TD
Wasn't it Boley
That did not scoop a fumble thinking that it was an incomplete pass in 2009? I think it was against the Eagles or the Falcons I can’t remember exactly.
Well at least he seems to have learned the lesson. Kudos to him anyway.
New York Giants French blog (with croissants and wine)
Aha !!
That explains the excessive excitement of his celebratory gesture. Bad shot, but a year of frustration (humiliation) was in that ball. Probably got out of control. Saw Jacobs smash a clock in Dallas with a similar gesture.
Good on you Boley. But I think that kid deserves a phone call.
I am a fan of Kevin Gilbride and I don't care what you say
by Spider Lockhart on Sep 20, 2011 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions
57 was all over the field
I do think that it was more a function of the no-huddle and PF going with the 4-2-5. Boley and J Will being the 2.
"Winning is the most important thing in my life, after breathing. Breathing first, winning next."
by Larry Soprano on Sep 20, 2011 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions
No he just plays with Boley on nickel packages
Jones is the Mike.
I’m surprised though that the coaching staff does not give more snaps to Paysinger. He was good during the preseason.
New York Giants French blog (with croissants and wine)
Paysinger gets more snaps if he's better then Williams
he’s not.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
by Rorschach44 on Sep 20, 2011 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions
Obviously
That’s why I’m surprised. Paysinger outplayed Williams during the preseason and now it’s the other way around.
Anyway I’m all in to get the best players on the field.
New York Giants French blog (with croissants and wine)
No
Jones is pretty much a two down LB at this point, to stop the run.
"Beckum is Beckum, it's a hamstring".....Tommy Couglin
by Great Gatsby on Sep 20, 2011 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions
Did you guys this fake injury story?
I missed that but if it’s true I’m really disappointed by the Gmen. So we need to cheat to win now?
New York Giants French blog (with croissants and wine)
it's not cheating
it’s been done hundreds of times before. teams would use it against the ’88 Bengals with their offense
I'd like to thank the good Lord for making me a Yankee fan.
LOL man you are a joke
If it’s not cheating what is it? Mis interpretating the rules?
They faked the injuries to slow the Rams down and get their GL package. If you need to slow them down you take a time out that’s it. You do not play like that. It’s not fair play.
New York Giants French blog (with croissants and wine)
This league respects the rights of players
to express their religious beliefs in any way that they deem appropriate
I am a fan of Kevin Gilbride and I don't care what you say
by Spider Lockhart on Sep 20, 2011 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Besides
It really did kind of hurt
I am a fan of Kevin Gilbride and I don't care what you say
by Spider Lockhart on Sep 20, 2011 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions
a little
I am a fan of Kevin Gilbride and I don't care what you say
by Spider Lockhart on Sep 20, 2011 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions
it was an Emmy
worthy performance
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The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 20, 2011 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah
Williams is never going to win an Emmy, sees Boley go down, then oops!
"Beckum is Beckum, it's a hamstring".....Tommy Couglin
by Great Gatsby on Sep 20, 2011 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions
It's not cheating until...
..the Patriots do it.
Didn’t Rex Ryan teach you anything?
Blue is the color of melancholy and honesty
Green is the color of inexperience, envy and nausea.
by roguetrader on Sep 20, 2011 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions
I had to laugh
as two players went down. It had im a soccer player painted all over that flop.
I have not yet begun to procrastinate
It's exactly that
Soccer players act like wussies all the time. I like rugby and amercian football because there isn’t that type of behaviour (or at least it is very rare).
New York Giants French blog (with croissants and wine)
Yeah
I commented on that in another post. Sometimes the soccer guys get penalized for faking injuries. They flop all over, it is comical.
All the Giants should play like Mark Bavaro.
Tom Quinn Must Go!
It is equally worthless when people are always optimistic or always pessimistic. Either way I take their opinion with a pound of salt because I know they only have one setting. I post my own thoughts, not what either side wants to read.
by UnknownJintsFan on Sep 20, 2011 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions
If the other team does it its savvy
the Giants its cheating
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
by Rorschach44 on Sep 20, 2011 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions
Cheating is cheating
Doesn’t matter who does it.
I would have had the same reaction if the Rams or the Pats or the Steelers had done it.
New York Giants French blog (with croissants and wine)
football is also football
Dolphins and Chargers did it against NE. College teams do it every game against these uptempo offenses. Its not like doing what they did isn’t in the rules. All the holding penalties that were ignored for JPP, however, are in the rules.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
by Rorschach44 on Sep 20, 2011 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions
So that makes cheating OK?
LOL
You want something that is not in the rules? Unsportsman like conduct.
New York Giants French blog (with croissants and wine)
its not cheating if a rule isn't broken
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
by Rorschach44 on Sep 20, 2011 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions
Give it up man
The rule was broken, the ref just didn’t notice it.
New York Giants French blog (with croissants and wine)
the rule?
what rule is this? Its been done by players since the game existed.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
by Rorschach44 on Sep 20, 2011 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions
Hey there are a ton of murders each year
So let’s just kill people, it’s okay to do it.
New York Giants French blog (with croissants and wine)
yea
cuz murder is definitely not in the rulebook.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
by Rorschach44 on Sep 20, 2011 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions
Unsporsman tlike conduct isn't either
Do you see the holes in your argumentation?
New York Giants French blog (with croissants and wine)
that's not an unsportsmanlike penalty
so do you see the hole in yours?
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
by Rorschach44 on Sep 20, 2011 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions
Don’t argue with him, it gets you nowhere.
I wonder if he’ll respond to this with a “whatever you say”
Or maybe I’ll get a “you got it chief.”
or maybe, just maybe if I’m lucky I’ll get an “LOL”
"Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."
LET'S GO RANGERS!!!
on the ball again, eh Mosh
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
by Rorschach44 on Sep 20, 2011 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions
He changed it up a bit, just for me :)
I feel special now.
And if we all scroll up the page a bit, we see that LOL was the exact response that I got.
Well done RR44, well done.
"Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."
LET'S GO RANGERS!!!
According to the NFL network Williams fell into Grant resulting in a Grant injury.
Factology! Belief is ignorance.
by LoNJDTechnology on Sep 20, 2011 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions
via NFL Network.
Factology! Belief is ignorance.
by LoNJDTechnology on Sep 20, 2011 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions
Not the website, the tv show. it is on now.
Factology! Belief is ignorance.
by LoNJDTechnology on Sep 20, 2011 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions
If the Eagles did that to us, we would all be up in arms.
Cheating is cheating. It was an embarrassing, yet effective, tactic.
"Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."
LET'S GO RANGERS!!!
not cheating...veteran
not proud of it but hey…what are you gonna do?
nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!
MAKE IT WORK!!!
Just not do it again
Are we going to cheat our way to the Super Bowl? Not going to work fellas.
New York Giants French blog (with croissants and wine)
are you kidding?
you do what it takes to win the friggin game. The Giants were gassed when Grant made that move. For all anyone knows it saved 7 points and the game right there.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
by Rorschach44 on Sep 20, 2011 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions
Really?
Did you feel the same way when spygate came into focus?
by eyerish9299 on Sep 20, 2011 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions
I felt that it wasn't nearly even close to the same situation.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
by Rorschach44 on Sep 20, 2011 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions
What I don't understand is
why not just call a TO? It’s the first half. Use them!
by eyerish9299 on Sep 20, 2011 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions
why call a TO when you don't have to?
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
by Rorschach44 on Sep 20, 2011 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions
They did have to!
They were getting smoked off the ball and were barely lining up before the snap! I’d be willing to bet we still had a timeout at the end of the half.
by eyerish9299 on Sep 20, 2011 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions
I'd rather they keep the TOs for when they need them
like the two minute drill.
Why call a TO when you can make a play that has been done since the game was invented? Its simple.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
by Rorschach44 on Sep 20, 2011 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions
quick kicks ahve been around forever
but when was the last time you saw one of them?
by eyerish9299 on Sep 20, 2011 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions
so just let em score a TD?
got it.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
by Rorschach44 on Sep 20, 2011 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions
No, just be prepared.
Factology! Belief is ignorance.
by LoNJDTechnology on Sep 20, 2011 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
there were prepared
and that’s what they’re prepared to do.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
by Rorschach44 on Sep 20, 2011 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions
So if the ref called an Unsportsmanlike conduct
you would be OK with what Grant did? Yes, faking an injury to slow down the other team is a penalty. That’s why there is a 10 second run off in the last 2 minutes of a half/game for an injured offensive player.
by eyerish9299 on Sep 20, 2011 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions
but it wasn't in the last 2 minutes
which is why its a smart play.
And they wouldn’t call unsportsmanlike, since its not a penalty.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
by Rorschach44 on Sep 20, 2011 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions
It's hopeless
The guy just wants to have the last word to feel that he is right.
Let’s just say amen to what he says but think differently ;)
New York Giants French blog (with croissants and wine)
ah yes, the last word quip.
its adorable after a while.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
by Rorschach44 on Sep 20, 2011 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions
THere is no rule against "faking" an injury.
Therefor, no rule was broking, ergo, it wasn’t cheating. It’s a cheap move, but cheating is stretching it a bit much.
Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
SASH
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 20, 2011 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes there is
It could be delay of game on defense (5 yards penalty) or unsportsmanlike conduct (15 yards penalty). Could even lead to an disqualification if flagrant.
Palpably unfair act (Distance penalty determined by the Referee after consultation with other officials.)
http://www.nfl.com/rulebook/penaltysummaries
That was at least a delay of game. But since it is very difficult for a ref to judge if someone is faking or not, there is room for cheating.
Anyway if you guys can sleep well thinking that it was not cheating good for you but personally that kind of attitude disgusts me and even more when it comes from the team I root for.
The French soccer team cheated their way into the 2010 World Cup (Thierry Henry illegally touched the ball with the hand to keep it in bounds and then score but the ref didn’t see it) and I was glad they were disqualified during the world cup.
That was just one incident for the Giants but if they keep doing this I hope they won’t get into the PO.
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by Thiergow on Sep 20, 2011 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
NFL players do what Grant did all the time
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
by Rorschach44 on Sep 20, 2011 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions
Actually I cannot remember the last time I saw that happen
I don’t think NFL players do that very much anymore, as it used to be during the last two minutes of the halves. Now the team is forced to take a time out. But in this case Grant was more or less taking a time out, but not being the team captain he isn’t really authorized. I think it is an old tradition, in little use today as it is rarely needed, but has traditionally been a well worn tactic little frowned upon.
I am a fan of Kevin Gilbride and I don't care what you say
by Spider Lockhart on Sep 20, 2011 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions
really?
The past two weeks I’ve seen it numerous times. The Chargers and Dolphins did it, but it didn’t work. The Jaguars did it, didn’t work.
Maybe that’s why the Giants are getting crucified here, it actually worked. The other teams that have done it, it hasn’t worked so it seems to get ignored.
The more and more teams try to play uptempo style offense the more you’ll see it. When teams like the Cowboys and Giants are on offense they take the clock down to the last second anyway, so maybe that’s why its weird to see that in a Giants game.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
by Rorschach44 on Sep 20, 2011 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions
Not really
I didn’t see the Chargers play your referencing, but I did see the Dolphins play and it was nothing like the Grant play. Grant stood up, realized they were having trouble and FLOPPED. The Dolphins player NEVER got up when he was hurt. I’m not saying he was really hurt, but he sure put on a better show then Grant.
by eyerish9299 on Sep 20, 2011 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions
The Chargers did it three times in the first half alone
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
by Rorschach44 on Sep 20, 2011 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions
I think that, that is the issue, the flopping
Guys get hurt on every play. Deciding to stay down or not is a personal decision that cannot be taken away. Flopping CAN actually be legitimate. It isn’t good-sportsmanship, but cannot really be made illegal. Thus: legal.
Put the blame on the coaches for not getting a time-out in time
I am a fan of Kevin Gilbride and I don't care what you say
by Spider Lockhart on Sep 20, 2011 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions
think
if we had Chad Jones, Terrell Thomas, Prince, Webster, Rolle, all healthy. What a secondary it might have been.
i agree. but
it’s more about coordination and playing as a team than it is playing as individuals. if they have good teamwork, then they can be as good as anyone
I'd like to thank the good Lord for making me a Yankee fan.
Speaking of Jones....
Anyone really think this guy can return to the field at the NFL level? What a story that would be. We certainly need him. Guess we will have to wait to find out. Wish he would post more videos of his training.
Aaron Ross
is horrible. I was at the game sitting in the nose bleeds and let me tell you…. I focused in on him often and he was out of position on almost every play. We will beat no good teams if he is our starting corner all season. Please come back Prince.
by The Blood of Eli on Sep 20, 2011 10:06 AM EDT reply actions
and 2nd
Eli looks like he took a step backwards. He got booed off the field more than once last night.
by The Blood of Eli on Sep 20, 2011 10:07 AM EDT up reply actions
The whole team was bood off the field on 3rd downs in the first half...
on the flip side – Cruz caught a pass and got a standing ovation
nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!
MAKE IT WORK!!!
I thought
He played better as the game wore on. I read he was 14 for 15 or something like that at one point. Not a great game for him, but he shook the booing off well. That would rattle some guys.
Go Giants!
and he cursed himself out on the sideline
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 20, 2011 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions
This is why I love Eli.
When asked by that Derp of a commentator after teh game if the booing effected him, Eli’s response was, “Oh no, not at all. I always think they’re booing someone else.” Such an awesome reply. Hater gonna hate.
Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
SASH
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 20, 2011 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions
they were not Boooing him
they were saying “boo-urns”
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 20, 2011 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions
I can vouch for that
although I wasn’t there
nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!
MAKE IT WORK!!!
LOL.
Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
SASH
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 20, 2011 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Id really like killdrive
to try a no huddle offense at the beginning of the game. Eli seemed to start hitting his stride as he was working the 2 minute drill at the end of the half.
I have not yet begun to procrastinate
I'd really like Killdrive
to quit his job and allow Eli to run the offense. I really don’t get how all the fans see that Eli is 1,000,000 times better in the 2 minute but the coaches don’t. It’s obviously because he gets to call his play instead of what Killdrive wants.
by eyerish9299 on Sep 20, 2011 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions
I have noticed that when fans complain about Gilbride and demand that he try a certain play or strategy, you see it in the next game.
Factology! Belief is ignorance.
by LoNJDTechnology on Sep 20, 2011 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions
he reads BBV
via the iphone app
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 20, 2011 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions
Speaking of which.
Didn’t we coin Hynocerous here on BBV? Gruden called Hynoski that during the game. Score one for BBV.
Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
SASH
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 20, 2011 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions
So if we deman he quits
we will get our wish? Think Buddy Ryan reads BBV and acts out or demands? I’d pay to see Ryan v Killdrive 2.0!
by eyerish9299 on Sep 20, 2011 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions
No, I think family would come first while considering that demand.
Factology! Belief is ignorance.
by LoNJDTechnology on Sep 20, 2011 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions
every time he sees someone call him Killdrive on here
he calls another shotgun draw on 3rd & 7.
"I’m not trying to be like Peyton; I’m trying to do it the way I know how." -Eli Manning
by BleedBigBlue on Sep 20, 2011 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions
no offence but
I wouldn’t put to much stock in the collective intellect of the monday night football crowd.
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
Giant LB'z SUCK!!? Mark Herzlich, Greg Jones,Spencer Paysinger...Maybe not..
I'm happy for the win
But it is clear that we are not ready for the elite of the NFC.
Quinn must go !!
Anyone else see this article? http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/Philadelphia-Eagles-Andy-Reid-take-blame-for-Michael-Vick-injury-091911
This guy Greg Couch sounds like one of us bitching on a message board. If you just gave your quarterback 100 million dollars, you better be playing in him and hoping he bails you out…over and over! I am dumbfounded over this article being on FoxSports! ha
I've said it before...
While Ross played horribly – let him make a few big plays and he’ll be lights out. String a couple good games along and he’ll be a gamer…
nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!
MAKE IT WORK!!!
half the problem is mental
he was crying on the bench last night and didn’t wanna join the DBs on the sidelines.
this is what I can’t get about this kid….it’s ok. your world is not over. you got beat on a pass….or you got benched for a few plays….so what, suck it up and get back out there.
he’s too fragile…emotionally and physically. but it’s the emotional side of it that kills him….he’s his own worst enemy sometimes.
TeamJPP
also, he makes one great play and celebrates like it Super Bowl 42...
then he gives up a first down reception…keep your head on, bro
nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!
MAKE IT WORK!!!
Grow up
and Man up! Don’t act like a 12 year old being taken out of a Pop Warner game!
"Beckum is Beckum, it's a hamstring".....Tommy Couglin
by Great Gatsby on Sep 20, 2011 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm taking my ball back
and going home
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 20, 2011 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah
but you can’t make 3 bad plays for every good play, 3:1 ratio, not so good for a CB!
"Beckum is Beckum, it's a hamstring".....Tommy Couglin
by Great Gatsby on Sep 20, 2011 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions
Hey, is Prince really out of his boot and running?
nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!
MAKE IT WORK!!!
i wouldn't say he's "running"
but he’s outta the boot and “moving around”….jogging if you will
TeamJPP
He can't get healthy
soon enough, I don’t care if he is a rookie, going to have to force feed the guy!
"Beckum is Beckum, it's a hamstring".....Tommy Couglin
by Great Gatsby on Sep 20, 2011 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions
Yep, but with an injury to the outside of the foot
Its cutting not running that is the problem. I don’t expect to see him back performing well this year, CB’s have more lateral movement than tennis players. Playing another position it wouldn’t be so bad. I don’t think corners can play very soon after this type of injury.
I am a fan of Kevin Gilbride and I don't care what you say
by Spider Lockhart on Sep 20, 2011 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions
Watched Boleys TD online
Didn’t realize this live but i think he throws the ball of a guys face hahaha.
http://www.youtube.com/user/SuperNzYme#p/u/5/y_r0i_30iwQ
I wish they would have replayed that last night
my lady and I were watching and she was like that dude just took a football to the face, did that guy mean to do that to him?
She also said that Eli looked wimpy right after the interception. I couldnt say otherwise.
I have not yet begun to procrastinate
they are...
dude is a BEAST
nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!
MAKE IT WORK!!!
And he plays the run as well as he rushes
Another notch higher on the DL and the DB’s will look much better. I think our D is awesome by mid season. Never thought I would see Canty and Boley both pay off, their first year it looked like high price free agents cashing in. We have something special brewing there I think.
I am a fan of Kevin Gilbride and I don't care what you say
by Spider Lockhart on Sep 20, 2011 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions
Bernard even showed up a little bit last night
Williams looked good at LB, too
nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!
MAKE IT WORK!!!
Yeah Bernard showed up
Had almost forgotten that he was still with the team. That was great.
I am a fan of Kevin Gilbride and I don't care what you say
by Spider Lockhart on Sep 20, 2011 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions
ESPN really is a joke...
Instead of talking about our WIN from last night they focus on the Deon Grant play. Skip Clueless said that play cost the Rams the game. So apparently the Boley TD meant nothing. Apparently the Hixon circus catch meant nothing. ESPN’s bias against us is disgraceful. THEN they were crapping on Coughlin talking about how easy it is to win ONE SB and how anyone can do it. Isn’t this the same idiot Rob Parker that made an inappropriate joke about a Lions coach’s family member??
then this morning on ESPN
all they were talking about Romo.
Wasn’t there a game on ESPN last night?
The Giants secondary has now given up 305 yards passing to Washington quarterback Rex Grossman and 331 to Bradford. What on earth will happen when the Giants play a team with quality wide receivers and a top-flight quarterback?
I dont know man….You can have your 300 passing yds. if it comes with a 47% completion rate and 2.8, 3.1 yds. per rush.. sign me up!!
Bradford’s pretty “top flight”
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
Giant LB'z SUCK!!? Mark Herzlich, Greg Jones,Spencer Paysinger...Maybe not..
I remember one year they gave up a ton of yards in the first two games
they went 0-2 that year to start. Won a lot of sloppy games, Plaxico bought a gun, Shockey got a sex change and Tiki was an announcer.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
by Rorschach44 on Sep 20, 2011 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
That was the year we lost twice to Dallas
But all in all not a bad year
I am a fan of Kevin Gilbride and I don't care what you say
by Spider Lockhart on Sep 20, 2011 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions
same with Cam Newton
yeah it’s great he’s thrown for 900+ yards but the Panthers are still 0-2
Well Cam is filling the stadium seats for a 2-14 team
Its not ALL about this year in Sports, unless you end up checking out at the end of the year.
I am a fan of Kevin Gilbride and I don't care what you say
by Spider Lockhart on Sep 20, 2011 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions
+1
"Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."
LET'S GO RANGERS!!!
Can we go back to something brought up on the forum last night! Any UPITT fans?
After the Jacobs TD, Gruden praises Hynoski for a block and says, “Henry the Hynoceraus, they call him!” Was this a nickname from college ball? Or is Gruden prepping his material from the BBV?
On this forum it was Rohrshach
Only he know if he is the author. But so far the nickname has more kick than the player.
I am a fan of Kevin Gilbride and I don't care what you say
by Spider Lockhart on Sep 20, 2011 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions
And of course he preps from BBV
Say what you want about Gruden as an announcer. He does do his prep work. And would you miss this forum if you were a professional prepping announcer for a MN game?
I am a fan of Kevin Gilbride and I don't care what you say
by Spider Lockhart on Sep 20, 2011 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions
There's gotta be a timeline
Did Garafolo tweet or write it before the first Ror post with the nickname?
Go Giants!
Then later
it was Harry the Hynoceraus, LMAO!
"Beckum is Beckum, it's a hamstring".....Tommy Couglin
by Great Gatsby on Sep 20, 2011 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions
Sounds like a children's book
nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!
MAKE IT WORK!!!
Oh...can we talk about the Greg Jones tackle on the early goal line stand?
Nice…I liked that
nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!
MAKE IT WORK!!!
Greg Jones and Williams seem like two nice players that get better every week.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
by Rorschach44 on Sep 20, 2011 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions
yes.
Team Greg Jones
Team Jerry Reese
by BigBlueIntervention on Sep 20, 2011 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions
Jones
He was a 1st round talent who fell off because his production fell a bit in his final two years. The talking heads paid no attention to the fact that MSU’s D got better infront of him. Also, his size and speed aren’t amazing for the NFL but his nose for the ball is way above average.
by eyerish9299 on Sep 20, 2011 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions
So with Manningham out next week
does Cruz get the start?
by Giants_Cover_2 on Sep 20, 2011 10:37 AM EDT reply actions
Who said
he’s out? He’s claiming he didn’t have a concussion, probably just a mild one.
"Beckum is Beckum, it's a hamstring".....Tommy Couglin
by Great Gatsby on Sep 20, 2011 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions
Reply fail
LOL!
"Beckum is Beckum, it's a hamstring".....Tommy Couglin
by Great Gatsby on Sep 20, 2011 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions
I could tell
welcome aboard the BBV ship! Plenty of room for passengers, LOL!
"Beckum is Beckum, it's a hamstring".....Tommy Couglin
by Great Gatsby on Sep 20, 2011 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions
lol
that there is
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 20, 2011 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions
By ship, do you mean blimp?
Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
SASH
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 20, 2011 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions
I can't stand
Rob Parker…he said that Coughlin taking an expansion team to the AFC championship game was “weird”??
by Giants_Cover_2 on Sep 20, 2011 10:53 AM EDT reply actions
1) Manning is responsible for Hixon getting hurt. That was a poor pass. Underthrown and on the wrong side.
2) Ross spent a whole year—his second, I believe—being depressed. I think he acknowledged it. His emotional consitutition is a weakness in his brutal profession. Actually, Webster had some of the same issues, as I recall, but seems to have recovered. Sam Madison helped him a lot.
by hopeforthefuture3 on Sep 20, 2011 11:14 AM EDT reply actions
to be technical
Manningham is the reason for his AND Hixon’s injury.
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 20, 2011 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions
now we wanna blame
Eli for Hixon’s injury?
I'm depressed too
In fact I’m damn near suicidal from watching all these big plays against the Fewell system. He needs to clean this mess up or be held accountable. I realize the injuries have hurt us, but I don’t feel this is a winning scheme I’m watching on D.
I really miss the Spags game plans. He’d have these guys playing at a higher level if he were still here in spite of the injuries IMO.
Go Giants!
Major upgrade over Sheridan though
Yeah, it was sad to see Spags on the sidelines. He had done a great job with that team. I really hope he can be talked into coming to New York after TC retires. Great to have him cutting his teeth somewhere else, lke Belichick did in Cleveland, but I hope that this time we nail down his contract in time.
I am a fan of Kevin Gilbride and I don't care what you say
by Spider Lockhart on Sep 20, 2011 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions
that was not a poor thrown pass
Hixon is to blame for his own injury just like Manningham. Catch the god damn ball, it was a well thrown ball, and he’s fine.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
by Rorschach44 on Sep 20, 2011 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions
All this talk about Manningham and Hixon "injuries"
Neither one of the guys has been ruled out for next week. They could both be normal football dings like in every game. Let’s wait and see.
I am a fan of Kevin Gilbride and I don't care what you say
by Spider Lockhart on Sep 20, 2011 12:16 PM EDT reply actions
Please Update
I have scoured the internet but cannot find any info as to the extent of Grant’s and Williams’ injuries.

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