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Giants Vs. Rams: Five Things To Watch

I know you guys are waiting impatiently for the Monday Night Football meeting between the Spagnuolos and the Coughlins, otherwise known as the St. Louis Rams and New York Giants (8:30 p.m. ET, ESPN). Here is a bit of an expanded game preview for your reading enjoyment.

I have included five things to watch, the final injury report and a few links to some of what has been written about the game over at SB Nation New York. Enjoy.

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  1. Can The Giants Stay With The Running Game?: For whatever reason the Giants got away from the running game in the second half of their season-opening loss to Washington. Can they establish it Monday night, and then stick with it? Pounding Brandon Jacobs and Ahmad Bradshaw is still what the Giants do best, and they need to play to their strength. St. Louis gave up 236 yards rushing to Philadelphia, and that should bode well for the Giants.
  2. Can The Giants Convert On Third Down?: Another thing that has been talked about repeatedly during the past week is the failure of the Giants to convert on third down in the opener, when they went just 1-for-10. Veteran slot receiver Brandon Stokley has been added, largely because of those failings.
  3. Can The Rams Run The Ball?: Whether star running back Steven Jackson plays or not, St. Louis will try to establish the run. The Giants would like to make the Rams one-dimensional and make them throw. St. Louis has a second-year quarterback and an inexperienced group of receivers, and the Giants would like to take advantage of that.
  4. The Giants Secondary: Defensive coordinator Perry Fewell said that five of the seven big passing plays by the Redskins in the season opener were the result of miscommunications by the Giants secondary. That is discouraging since this is largely the same group minus Terrell Thomas -- running the same scheme as a season ago. They have to get on the same page. Corners Aaron Ross and Corey Webster struggled in Week 1.

Here is the final injury report for Monday night's game:

New York Giants

Out
Prince Amukamara (CB), foot
Travis Beckum (TE), hamstring
Osi Umenyiora (DE), knee

Questionable
Hakeem Nicks (WR), knee
Justin Tuck (DE), neck

St. Louis Rams

Out
C.J. AhYou (DE), wrist

Doubtful
Danny Amendola (WR), elbow

Questionable
Steven Jackson (RB), quad
M. Hoomanawanui (TE), calf

Probable
Sam Bradford (QB), finger
Bradley Fletcher (CB), toe
Josh Hull (LB), hamstring


St. Louis Rams - Game Averages

Pts Yrds Pass Rush
Off 13.0 335.0 (17th) 181.0 (23rd) 154.0 (8th)
Def 31.0 403.0 (26th) 167.0 (8th) 236.0 (32nd)


New York Giants - Game Averages

Pts Yrds Pass Rush
Off 14.0 315.0 (20th-T) 240.0 (18th) 75.0 (22nd)
Def 28.0 332.0 (15th) 258.0 (18th) 74.0 (9th-T)


SB Nation New York Game Coverage:

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Look at the Falcons

They’ve struggled to run the ball most of the game against the Eagles and then BOOM! 60 yards gain by Turner who bursted through the middle.

Keep pounding Gmen and eventually the Rams D will get tired and give up a big play.

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by Thiergow on Sep 19, 2011 10:44 AM EDT reply actions  

Running game

Very, very true. As long as the score is reasonable and it isn’t late you do not give up on the running game. You keep going to it.

by Ed Valentine on Sep 19, 2011 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

What happened

to No. 5, as in 5 things to watch for? LOL! This is as close to a must win as you can have in
week two, lets add that as No. 5.

"Beckum is Beckum, it's a hamstring".....Tommy Couglin

by Great Gatsby on Sep 19, 2011 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well due to tiebreakers

we’d still be in last

Self-praise is for losers. Be a winner. Stand for something. Always have class, and be humble.
-John Madden

by Willgfass on Sep 19, 2011 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

5. Can the O-line protect Eli Manning?

There were some pass protection problems last week and we all know Spags likes to get pressure on the QB. Effectively running the ball would make this easier and open up play action passes.

by G-FANinFL on Sep 19, 2011 10:48 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Can we stay with the Run

That depends cause the Rams know all they have to do is “show” 8 in the box.. and as Killdrive knows.. you cant run if they show 8 in the box!

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by Skii31 on Sep 19, 2011 10:49 AM EDT reply actions  

I think you'll see a lot of counter plays and sweeps from us.

As opposed to draw plays where we have Diehl taking on Fred Robbins and James Lauranitis coming up.

Team Greg Jones
Team Jerry Reese

by BigBlueIntervention on Sep 19, 2011 10:50 AM EDT reply actions  

I hope so..

I was encouraged when I saw the 3 back set and then quickly discouraged when it worked and we abandoned it… only to have 3-10 shotgun draw plays… If I never see that play again, I could die a happy man.

"Oh god help us all, the metlife blimps are coming, OMGWFTBBQFTW!!!!!!"
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by Skii31 on Sep 19, 2011 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

Let's go Gmen

Gotta have this one.

Why is Tom Quinn still here? I loves me some Coach Clawfin.

by costanza! on Sep 19, 2011 10:50 AM EDT reply actions  

5. How many times will Jon Gruden call Justin Tuck Jason?

I'd like to thank the good Lord for making me a Yankee fan.

by NJsandman on Sep 19, 2011 10:52 AM EDT reply actions  

Or what will be the new nickname supposedly always used by Gruden to call a player

Seriously have you ever heard Gruden use a nickname more than once with a player? I have the impression he spents more time thinking about a new nickname rather than getting a coaching job.

New York Giants French blog (with croissants and wine)

by Thiergow on Sep 19, 2011 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

Will Jon Gruden break the record for saying "That Guy" the most in one broadcast?

"The last proclamation out of Philly that meant anything was a Declaration in 1776"

"This is great. We usually get to play two regular season games before people tell us we aren't worth a s***." - Pat Hanlon the Twitter Champion

by sejo28 on Sep 19, 2011 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

twice

then Mike T will correct him

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by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 19, 2011 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

Its problably a bit much to say this is a must win

But I dont wanna be 0-2 going up against the eagles, a team that for some reason we cant seem to run against
One thing we DID do was stop the run against the rams so we should be able to handle that and make enough plays to beat the Rams

"The last proclamation out of Philly that meant anything was a Declaration in 1776"

"This is great. We usually get to play two regular season games before people tell us we aren't worth a s***." - Pat Hanlon the Twitter Champion

by sejo28 on Sep 19, 2011 10:53 AM EDT reply actions  

6. Will Kiwi's number be called?

He was invisible in first game.

7. How many stupid plays will Rolle make?

by TheGifford on Sep 19, 2011 10:54 AM EDT reply actions  

10. Will Eli lose his starting job to Carr?

Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants

by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 19, 2011 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

it'll be close...but still unlikely...

but we still should have gotten cam newton.

In Prust we Trust

we need to get cam newton before the panther’s get off lock down cause eli cant (QB) by hisselfall this saeson also we need plax back to cause smith is the best (WR) we got nd plax cant help smith nd the team out….. do that nd we have a a shout at the superblow

by Master Ov Brutality on Sep 19, 2011 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

He is out encircling the Taliban in Afganistan

All the Giants should play like Mark Bavaro.
Tom Quinn Must Go!
It is equally worthless when people are always optimistic or always pessimistic. Either way I take their opinion with a pound of salt because I know they only have one setting. I post my own thoughts, not what either side wants to read.

by UnknownJintsFan on Sep 19, 2011 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

10.

Will Coughin and Gilbride pull their head out of their arse and realize that a committment needs to be made to RUNNING THE BALL and that Brandon Jacobs should be the FEATURE back with Bradshaw spelling him as a changeup only?

by dubsrub on Sep 19, 2011 10:59 AM EDT reply actions  

Naa

Bradshaw is better..we need Jacobs to run more though. They should split it pretty evenly with Bradshaw getting a few more. Jacobs is the perfect changeup guy.

by schmosterballs92 on Sep 19, 2011 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

11.

Who will spend more time in the tub – Travis Beckum or Hakeem “Nicked”

by dubsrub on Sep 19, 2011 11:00 AM EDT reply actions  

Nicks seems to be Mr Injury

but at least he plays though them… Travis just gets a game check for wearing a jersey

Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants

by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 19, 2011 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

so true

Team Greg Jones
Team Jerry Reese

by BigBlueIntervention on Sep 19, 2011 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

He'd have to dress for the game to wear his jersey.

Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
SASH

"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning

SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!

by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 19, 2011 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

12

nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!

MAKE IT WORK!!!

by nywins42 on Sep 19, 2011 11:01 AM EDT reply actions  

0-2 and the season is not over

I just don’t want to have to fish for positives on tuesday morning. If Eli and the O-line show up, I’ll be happy. A win over philly next week can turn the tide of the season.

by Town on Sep 19, 2011 11:04 AM EDT reply actions  

We can always lose and still have positiveness the day after

It just depends on how the Giants lost the game.

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by Thiergow on Sep 19, 2011 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

ha I was so disgusted by the loss week 1

I though some people were reaching for “positives.” It’s impossible for 22 NFL players to simultaneously have a bad game, so obviously there were going to be SOME “kudos” to be had, but overall it was tough to say anyting was positive. If we can definitively say that the run game was effective, or that Eli looked sharp tomorrow morning, I’ll be stoked.

by Town on Sep 19, 2011 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah that was the feeling this week

Reaching for positives, I felt that way too.

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by Thiergow on Sep 19, 2011 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

I saw a statistic somewhere on tv

that said that 54% (or a majority for all you mathematically disinclined folk) started out 1-1 or 0-2.

Team Greg Jones
Team Jerry Reese

by BigBlueIntervention on Sep 19, 2011 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

That sounds like an incorrect stat

Consider if 1/2 the teams started 0-2 or 1-1, then 1/2 the teams started 2-0

So then none of the teams are 1-1.

I’d expect that 75% of the teams start 0-2 or 1-1 and 25% start 2-0

"That's mostly fans who say that kind of stuff and they really don't understand the process. We have good players on the team. We're not looking to go out and make every sexy splash that can be made. We make solid football decisions. That's been happening for a long time," Reese said

by trueblue63 on Sep 19, 2011 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

it was given to me by a commentator of a random game I was watching last week.

So I don’t doubt that the validity is questionable. But I kept it mind for all the bridge jumpers here.

Team Greg Jones
Team Jerry Reese

by BigBlueIntervention on Sep 19, 2011 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Haven't you heard

88.2% of all statistics are made up on the spot.

"I’m not trying to be like Peyton; I’m trying to do it the way I know how." -Eli Manning

by BleedBigBlue on Sep 19, 2011 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

They've done studies, you know

60% of the time, it works every time

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The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants

by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 19, 2011 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

lulz

Team Greg Jones
Team Jerry Reese

by BigBlueIntervention on Sep 19, 2011 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I'm not panicky

Even 0-2, even 0-2 against weaker teams.

I stay hopeful till elimination. Doesn’t mean I’m gripe free, but no sense in wetting the knickers just yet

"That's mostly fans who say that kind of stuff and they really don't understand the process. We have good players on the team. We're not looking to go out and make every sexy splash that can be made. We make solid football decisions. That's been happening for a long time," Reese said

by trueblue63 on Sep 19, 2011 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

No sense in wetting the knickers at all

then you’d have to change.

Team Greg Jones
Team Jerry Reese

by BigBlueIntervention on Sep 19, 2011 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

We started 0-2 in 2007.

Suicide rates amongst Giants fans were at an all time high. Then we won the Superblow.

Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
SASH

"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning

SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!

by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 19, 2011 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

I've got to be honest.

That smells like pure gasoline.

Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
SASH

"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning

SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!

by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 19, 2011 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

If we lose to the Rams....

We can mail it in. Its not happening for us in this division.

There are people that will jump up and say “we won the Superbowl after we got smoked early”, which is true. But the difference that year was – 1) We played GOOD teams, not the Skins and Rams 2) We had the horses, but we had a new DC and they were not all on the same page. Here you have the SAME guys who played with Fewell last year, and they have no clue in coverage. Then you have nobody at LB….

The situations are not the same. If we lose to the Rams, mark it down, we are done.

I don’t think we will. I think we SHOULD win handily.

by dubsrub on Sep 19, 2011 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

your points are legitimate

but 2 games is just too early to give up hope, man.

by Town on Sep 19, 2011 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

This season looks really weird

The Bills are playing well. The 49ers are not as bad as we thought. Redskins are playing tough too.

And on the other hand we have teams like the Steelers and the Giants who are struggling.

Anything is possible this season, really anything.

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by Thiergow on Sep 19, 2011 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

Steelers were struggling. Till they won 24-0 yesterday.

And the Ravens, who killed Pittsburgh, lost to Tennessee, so figure that one out. Any team can win any game in the NFL, more so than any of the other major pro sports. One play can effectively change the outcome of the game.

Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
SASH

"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning

SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!

by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 19, 2011 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Prior to yesterday's game

Ravens were the best team in the AFC

by GMen56-11 on Sep 19, 2011 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly. Things change very quickly in the NFL.

Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
SASH

"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning

SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!

by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 19, 2011 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Steelers even struggled against the Hawks.

You can’t really say that they were totally dominant. They “just” scored 24 points against Seattle.

New York Giants French blog (with croissants and wine)

by Thiergow on Sep 19, 2011 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Skins are starting to look like a legitimately good team

Another win yesterday against a decent team with some big plays needed to pull it out. I think a lot of teams will be looking at Washington on the schedule as an easy ‘W", and a lot of teams could be surprised. We aren’t talking about last year’s Skins, things sometimes change fast in the NFL.
With the Rams I would be worried if we lost, as Spags still needs another year or two. But if you watch the Philadelphia game, they gave the Eagles fits in the first half.

I am a fan of Kevin Gilbride and I don't care what you say

by Spider Lockhart on Sep 19, 2011 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Skins have a legit coach that is starting to get his players on the team. I am not surprised they are starting to look good.

by Ualtar on Sep 19, 2011 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Legit coach is streching it for Shannahan.

Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
SASH

"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning

SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!

by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 19, 2011 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cards were 5-11 last season

in a division won with a 7-9 record. Let’s see what the Giants do tonight before we call them decent. We looked pretty bad week 1.

by GMen56-11 on Sep 19, 2011 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

That was last time

Those kind of stories don’t happen every year.

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by Thiergow on Sep 19, 2011 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I was pissed off

Thought Coughlin should be fired and our talent level stunk. Same way I felt after lossing to the Skins.

by Late for Dinner on Sep 19, 2011 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

13

Will David Diehl lose his starting job this game.

by dubsrub on Sep 19, 2011 11:04 AM EDT reply actions  

Sometimes I feel like

we could put a dead body instead of Diehl and get better protection…

I thought that moving him back inside would allow him to play better because that was his natural position but he didn’t impress me so far.

New York Giants French blog (with croissants and wine)

by Thiergow on Sep 19, 2011 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm saying it's two things

Ability to convert short yardage

Ability to convert third and long on defense

Those plays have more impact than almost any other “non big” plays. One keeps your offense on the field, other gets em back on the field. And it’s two things they’ve struggled with.

"That's mostly fans who say that kind of stuff and they really don't understand the process. We have good players on the team. We're not looking to go out and make every sexy splash that can be made. We make solid football decisions. That's been happening for a long time," Reese said

by trueblue63 on Sep 19, 2011 11:05 AM EDT reply actions  

If we fix that in one game

We fix a three year old problem at once. Seems unlikely, but would certainly be welcome

I am a fan of Kevin Gilbride and I don't care what you say

by Spider Lockhart on Sep 19, 2011 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

The problem is

that we’ve fixed it several times. for 2 or 3 game stretches, it just doesn’t seem to stay fixed.

"I’m not trying to be like Peyton; I’m trying to do it the way I know how." -Eli Manning

by BleedBigBlue on Sep 19, 2011 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

One game at a time

Just fix it today, work on next week tomorrow

"That's mostly fans who say that kind of stuff and they really don't understand the process. We have good players on the team. We're not looking to go out and make every sexy splash that can be made. We make solid football decisions. That's been happening for a long time," Reese said

by trueblue63 on Sep 19, 2011 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

My biggies

Blown coverages and third down conversions. Also making sure we run the ball.

I know quarterbacks will complete passes. I want to see that we have guys actually near the ball when the passes are caught. The problem last week was not Grossman throwing for 300 yards, it was that those yards were on guy so wide open you could not tell who even missed the coverage.

Third Downs were obviously bad. We need someone to step up and become a viable option for that. Eli has no confidence in his receivers on third down and this will not only cause a lack of conversions, it could lead to him trying to force things to guys that are not open.

And I would love Jacobs to touch the ball more than 6 times. I am a big Jacobs fan, we need him to be more involved.

by Midnight Blue on Sep 19, 2011 11:20 AM EDT reply actions  

Maybe fewell was right--maybe it was just mental lapses

seems like every qb lit it up week 1. There was definitley a downward trend in passing yards week 2. I think a lot of it had to do with defenses lagging from the lockout—it’s natural that offenses would have the headstart/upper hand.

Look for a better peformance from the secondary in terms of cohesiveness and understanding of coverages/schemes this week. (after all, it couldn’t get any worse)

by Town on Sep 19, 2011 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

The Eagles lost...yeah!!!

That’ll put steam in a mans strides…We are now playing for sole posession of last place..yipee!!

"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."

by Bobbiblue on Sep 19, 2011 11:31 AM EDT reply actions  

steam in a mans strides????

When its 3rd and long, throw the ball past the marker.

by Fester McDougal on Sep 19, 2011 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

"That'll put steam in a man's stride."

It’s a line by Jack Nicholson as The Joker in the original "Batman.+

by Tom13901 on Sep 19, 2011 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1 for Batman reference.

Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
SASH

"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning

SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!

by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 19, 2011 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

You've solved it!

If we TRY for last place then they will be runaway winners

nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!

MAKE IT WORK!!!

by nywins42 on Sep 19, 2011 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

Downn here they are calling tonights game..

“The Banged-up Bowl”…I knew we’d make the playoffs this year…

"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."

by Bobbiblue on Sep 19, 2011 11:35 AM EDT reply actions  

I'm a broke record

Set Hynoske free!!!!! Third and short….let the fireplug give it a try.

by Jolly on Sep 19, 2011 11:47 AM EDT reply actions  

Release the Kracken!

Want to see Mr. Jones play well tonight.

Why is Tom Quinn still here? I loves me some Coach Clawfin.

by costanza! on Sep 19, 2011 11:50 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

I'll give them a call and get back to you in a few

"Winning is the most important thing in my life, after breathing. Breathing first, winning next."

by Larry Soprano on Sep 19, 2011 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm surprised to see

that they are both listed as questionable. Everything I read up to this point seemed like it was a better chance than that. Those would be 2 very big pieces to be missing…

your mom goes to college

by Oppenheimer919 on Sep 19, 2011 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

Especially since I'll be there tonight...

I pray those two guys play and Jackson sits out, but you’re right everything all week has been pretty positive, it would be pretty lousy if they can’t suit up.

When life hands you lemons, hang yourself!

by colinlovestheknicks on Sep 19, 2011 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

I do to..

Hopefully they won’t show him “Medusillas” head and turn him into stone..that’d be a bitch..

"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."

by Bobbiblue on Sep 19, 2011 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

lol... nice..

"Oh god help us all, the metlife blimps are coming, OMGWFTBBQFTW!!!!!!"
"Who needs a Bomar, when one can have a Perriloux"

by Skii31 on Sep 19, 2011 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

I take that back

That cannot happen since Eagles lost last night.

by BLUEYOU on Sep 19, 2011 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL!!!...You scared me for a second....

"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."

by Bobbiblue on Sep 19, 2011 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

The obvious key to this game...

is getting to Bradford. Get him rattled, hit him, knock him down. Without Jackson and Amendola he is a completely different player. PF needs to do a few jailbreak blitzes on this kid and force him into making mistakes early and often.

by sexyscottish on Sep 19, 2011 12:07 PM EDT reply actions  

I like to see how our O line works this week. Hope they fixed things from last week.

by Giantstep on Sep 19, 2011 12:15 PM EDT reply actions  

Shocking!

Beckum is out again, sheesh.

If Tuck and Hakeem are in and we get way ahead or behind, I hope they rest them. Play the rooks.

All the Giants should play like Mark Bavaro.
Tom Quinn Must Go!
It is equally worthless when people are always optimistic or always pessimistic. Either way I take their opinion with a pound of salt because I know they only have one setting. I post my own thoughts, not what either side wants to read.

by UnknownJintsFan on Sep 19, 2011 12:16 PM EDT reply actions  

For Tuck

I’m hoping they just bring him in on third downs. I’d rather have him next week at full speed

by KumaBlue42 on Sep 19, 2011 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

How would I have ever noticed if you didn't tell me?

Beckum out and in seems quite the same

I am a fan of Kevin Gilbride and I don't care what you say

by Spider Lockhart on Sep 19, 2011 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thank you

I don’t know how anybody can miss what we have never ever seen. That’s Beckum being a factor in a game. He is really starting to remind me of Tim Carter, all potential no production.

by Late for Dinner on Sep 19, 2011 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

They will

But it might not be in pads.

I doubt the NFL will allow them to hang out naked on the sideline

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by Thiergow on Sep 19, 2011 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

5 yard penalty for bad visual

If you want to see any of the Giants naked, please go over to BGN to discuss it.

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Tom Quinn Must Go!
It is equally worthless when people are always optimistic or always pessimistic. Either way I take their opinion with a pound of salt because I know they only have one setting. I post my own thoughts, not what either side wants to read.

by UnknownJintsFan on Sep 19, 2011 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

We need a win. Let’s go Giants. Get us a Win and a special rematch next week with BGN.

by Giantstep on Sep 19, 2011 12:18 PM EDT reply actions  

as Ed said....i wouldnt normally be looking to week 3 already...

but it is nice to know that Vick is going to be out. So if we can limit McCoy’s impact…it’s going to be a great game.

in any case….run like crazy tonight and play solid D…1 – 1 will never look better.

In Prust we Trust

we need to get cam newton before the panther’s get off lock down cause eli cant (QB) by hisselfall this saeson also we need plax back to cause smith is the best (WR) we got nd plax cant help smith nd the team out….. do that nd we have a a shout at the superblow

by Master Ov Brutality on Sep 19, 2011 12:25 PM EDT reply actions  

a buddy of mine...

says its a new rule that if you suffer a concussion…you have to sit at least one game…
of course i dont know all the details around this…but he usually knows what he’s talking about.

In Prust we Trust

we need to get cam newton before the panther’s get off lock down cause eli cant (QB) by hisselfall this saeson also we need plax back to cause smith is the best (WR) we got nd plax cant help smith nd the team out….. do that nd we have a a shout at the superblow

by Master Ov Brutality on Sep 19, 2011 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not sure that rule is applicable yet

I know that Madden has made a ton of suggestions but I don’t think that a concussion means automatically a game out. The requirements to get back on the field must be higher though.

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by Thiergow on Sep 19, 2011 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

I believe you are right...don't know if its that black and white though

He only suffered a “slight concussion” apparently, so we’ll see how the week goes.

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by BigBlueIntervention on Sep 19, 2011 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

i cant find a definitive answer...

after searching a few news sources…but at the very least hes going to have to pass “extensive tests” to get back on the field.

In Prust we Trust

we need to get cam newton before the panther’s get off lock down cause eli cant (QB) by hisselfall this saeson also we need plax back to cause smith is the best (WR) we got nd plax cant help smith nd the team out….. do that nd we have a a shout at the superblow

by Master Ov Brutality on Sep 19, 2011 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Vick taking the concussion test

“So Mike, how many dogs do you see in that picture?”

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by Thiergow on Sep 19, 2011 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

I believe

there are 3 levels of tests that he has to pass, done by outside sources,
not the team medical staff, but don’t quote me. The sideline reporter, Tafoya said he had a neck injury as well, I guess Fat Andy didn’t want to talk about that.

"Beckum is Beckum, it's a hamstring".....Tommy Couglin

by Great Gatsby on Sep 19, 2011 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

I do not believe there is an absolute rule...unless you fail the battery of tests

Keep in mind though…studies suggest that a concussed player is up to three times more likely to suffer an additional concussion with head trauma.

Its a tough call.

by NY FUBAR on Sep 19, 2011 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

They made the tests for concussions much more stringent.

He basically has to show no effects what so ever of the concussion in order to play. And with the added neck injury, I’d say doubtful for next week might be over stating it.

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Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
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by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 19, 2011 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Evem without Vick the Eagles are dangerous

But I wouldn’t count on Vick missing that game.

Smith will also be out there trying to prove the Giants they were wrong…

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by Thiergow on Sep 19, 2011 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah that 3rd string QB looked pretty good...

And I also agree that I’d be surprised if Vick misses the game…He maybe tallking with a ‘lisp’ though…

"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."

by Bobbiblue on Sep 19, 2011 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kafka should be #2

VY has the #2 spot just because he has experience and to justify his contract. Other than that Kafka looks better.

Man the Eagles know how develop QB and I envy them.

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by Thiergow on Sep 19, 2011 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

He probaly will takeover #2..

After Young goes AWOL and they have to send the bloodhounds out looking for him.

"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."

by Bobbiblue on Sep 19, 2011 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL!!!!!!...touche!!

"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."

by Bobbiblue on Sep 19, 2011 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol

nice

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by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 19, 2011 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is it just me or..

Did anyone else here get sick when you saw our Steve Smith running patterns in an Eagles uniform??
Also I hope the Cowgirls beat Washington next Monday…that would square things up if we win tonight..

"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."

by Bobbiblue on Sep 19, 2011 12:28 PM EDT reply actions  

Steve who?

There was this little wearing #11 but I saw no Steve Smith. Smith died in August.

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by Thiergow on Sep 19, 2011 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

I laughed.

He couldn’t get any separation at all until when the Falcons started playing really off and had a prevent look.

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by BigBlueIntervention on Sep 19, 2011 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

he definitely is to try and embarrass the Giants. Also, bravado.

Iggs have been known to bring players back early anyway. See: Stew Bradley.

Team Greg Jones
Team Jerry Reese

by BigBlueIntervention on Sep 19, 2011 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

The fact that he is even on the field is amazing

Good for him, didn’t like the fact he went to the Eagles, however I do understand why. Besides we got a lot bigger fish to fry than him.

by Late for Dinner on Sep 19, 2011 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sorry I can never root for anybody to be beaten by Dallas

Not even the Eaglets

I am a fan of Kevin Gilbride and I don't care what you say

by Spider Lockhart on Sep 19, 2011 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm with you.

whenever they play each other I root for a 0-0 tie.

"I’m not trying to be like Peyton; I’m trying to do it the way I know how." -Eli Manning

by BleedBigBlue on Sep 19, 2011 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

it depends

with the Boys starting 1-7 last season it was easy rooting for them vs the Eagles

by GMen56-11 on Sep 19, 2011 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hope Rolle gets use to his new roll before that so he can shut him down quickly. Nothing like former giants that like to come back to haunt us ever.

by Giantstep on Sep 19, 2011 12:39 PM EDT reply actions  

Hey Jolly how you doing?

Yeah Smith will be pumped for an I told you so, I’m afraid..

"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."

by Bobbiblue on Sep 19, 2011 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Smith will be pumped come next week

But I hope Kenny Philips gives him a nice hello…. within the rules of course

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by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 19, 2011 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

pretty sure thats a no

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by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 19, 2011 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's taboo..and a huge fine..

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by Bobbiblue on Sep 19, 2011 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes you can. As long as you don't launch or lead with the helmet.

Unless it is the QB. No no on the helmet to the knees.

If I am being negative please, don't let it fool you, I am an optimist at heart and I can prove it.

NYG 23 STL 14

by tommy d. on Sep 19, 2011 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes that would be nice..

Maybe ’ol suction cup ears Rolle will greet him also..

"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."

by Bobbiblue on Sep 19, 2011 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Doin' well Bobbi

Still on my meds and will have to drop by the store for another 6-pack to get me through
the night.

by Jolly on Sep 19, 2011 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ha...I'm on the same meds!!

Budweiser!

"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."

by Bobbiblue on Sep 19, 2011 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

My wife just bought a three bottle wooden box..

Of Jack Daniels..I said geez maybe I’ll crack that open tonight..She told me not to go near it!!..“It’s a collectors package!!!”…Great

"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."

by Bobbiblue on Sep 19, 2011 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tell her you are a collector....

When its 3rd and long, throw the ball past the marker.

by Fester McDougal on Sep 19, 2011 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ha!!..Good idea!

She spent 79.00 on this booze that is supposed to triple 3x by next year…I asked her if I could drink it then..I won’t post her response.haha

"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."

by Bobbiblue on Sep 19, 2011 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL... I don't know Bobbi

If the Giants start choking away this game I give you till the third Quarter before half of one of those bottles is gone.

by Late for Dinner on Sep 19, 2011 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Without looking

I had the same thought, same stupid suggestion Fester. Have you head examined.

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Tom Quinn Must Go!
It is equally worthless when people are always optimistic or always pessimistic. Either way I take their opinion with a pound of salt because I know they only have one setting. I post my own thoughts, not what either side wants to read.

by UnknownJintsFan on Sep 19, 2011 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

I baught my buddy

the collectors Single Barrel jack that comes in a tin with two glasses. We finished the bottle that same night. Just drink the bottles and save them, still collectors bottles, they’re just empty.

Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
SASH

"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning

SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!

by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 19, 2011 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have an entire handle of Jeigermeister flowing through me right now.

That way come game time, I can have a few beers and be back to wasted.

Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
SASH

"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning

SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!

by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 19, 2011 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gilbride's Play Cards

Maybe he should put pics of bikini clad models on his playcards like Rob Ryan.
You think that would help him?

by BLUEYOU on Sep 19, 2011 12:59 PM EDT reply actions  

...or pictures of Rex Ryans wifes feet..maybe the plays will smell better

"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."

by Bobbiblue on Sep 19, 2011 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

ew

Team Greg Jones
Team Jerry Reese

by BigBlueIntervention on Sep 19, 2011 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

FIve Things To Watch

Watch for #5, it’ll make an appearance any day now

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by Cory Braiterman on Sep 19, 2011 1:01 PM EDT reply actions  

Good catch..the elusive #5..to watch for..

Hopefully it won’t be Eli interceptions…I can’t really critisize Eli though…Hee spreads the ball all over the field like no other our guys and the opposing teams guys get an equal fair number of throws from him.

"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."

by Bobbiblue on Sep 19, 2011 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think it is the "Game"

When its 3rd and long, throw the ball past the marker.

by Fester McDougal on Sep 19, 2011 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Found It!

5.
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"I’m not trying to be like Peyton; I’m trying to do it the way I know how." -Eli Manning

by BleedBigBlue on Sep 19, 2011 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Awesome.

Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
SASH

"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning

SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!

by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 19, 2011 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

I bought a big can of Raid Wasp and Hornet Spray..

In case that friggin Deon Sanders buzzes into my living room and tries to screw up my TV reception or mess with my Cheetos.

"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."

by Bobbiblue on Sep 19, 2011 1:07 PM EDT reply actions  

Be careful Bobbi

and don’t confuse ’em with the Bud…

by Jolly on Sep 19, 2011 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah your right Jolly..

The last time that happened I was shitting honeycombs for a week…They passed trhu pretty good until the bees started to hatch..Worse than hemmoriods I’ll tell ya….

"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."

by Bobbiblue on Sep 19, 2011 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Let's hope that awful JLo car commerical

is not featured tonight….

When its 3rd and long, throw the ball past the marker.

by Fester McDougal on Sep 19, 2011 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

That must have been on twenty times yesterday.

I couldn’t stand her after the comcast commercials, now this. She looks like she’s having a siezure when she dances!

Now in section 133.

by Last year in Sec 127 on Sep 19, 2011 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don't worry, it's on ESPN. The majority of the commercials will be beer.

Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
SASH

"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning

SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!

by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 19, 2011 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

I want Deion

to snap all my cheetos in half for me!

I have not yet begun to procrastinate

by TheWenz on Sep 19, 2011 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

To get perspective

I went over to the Chiefs site..

http://www.arrowheadpride.com/

When you have a featured called 5 goods stats and you lead with the statement “it wasn’t all bad early” you know it will be a long season…

Go Giants!

When its 3rd and long, throw the ball past the marker.

by Fester McDougal on Sep 19, 2011 1:09 PM EDT reply actions  

Thanks Fester

I’m all in on the ‘it could always be worse’ philosophy.

by Jolly on Sep 19, 2011 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Chiefs and Colts might not win a game a piece this season.

Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
SASH

"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning

SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!

by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 19, 2011 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Osi

Why wouldn’t the Giants talk to Belichick about trading Osi for a Tight End?

The Pats could use an edge rusher. They are awesome on offense, and yes their TEs are a big part of that, but defensively they ARE vulnerable……

They have tight ends out the ying yang.

I don’t see why it would not make both teams better, and I don’t see the need to worry about improving the Pats because don’t you have to worry about improving your own team first so you can GET to the point where you have to worry about the Pats?

I still am skeptical we will see Osi play another down for the Giants. Sure hope Reese can get SOMETHING for it.

by dubsrub on Sep 19, 2011 2:08 PM EDT reply actions  

Because Bill wouldn't want a cry baby like Osi on his team

If Osi pulled that crap on the Pat’s they would have they would have gave him a one way ticket to the Bengals in a heartbeat. Good luck trying to get Mike Brown to renegotiate your contract with two years left on it.

by Late for Dinner on Sep 19, 2011 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

What crap?

If we stepped back, it was just a disagreement between him and Reese over something he was told.

Osi is not a bad teammate and he loves to practice…Bill would love the guy to be honest.

BTW…… Osi will retire a Giant so we should give up on the trade talks, him being out just proves how much he is actually needed.

Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!

Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related

by Blue Gates on Sep 19, 2011 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

If Reese trades with Belichick

he better have boilerplate strapped to his rear and his hand on his wallet.
As a trader, Bill is a he-coon from the big woods and he loves for hounds
to chase him into the water.

by Jolly on Sep 19, 2011 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Osi acted like an idiot

He had no leverage in his current situation so crying about what he and JR discussed without it being in writing is stupid. On top of that Osi and his agent are the only ones who think he out perforemed his contract. The Giants simply let him whine did nothing really and let him figure out on his own that he had zero leverage and he was playing for the Giants.
 As long as we get Tuck back, JPP is going to make you miss Osi less and less every Sunday.

by Late for Dinner on Sep 19, 2011 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Doubt it

Jpp just makes me wish it was Tuck, Osi & JPP….JPP is great but him as a luxury piece is un freaking stoppable.

Oh yea, so you say Bill wouldnt like a cry baby on his team and he wouldnt take Osi, so the whole Haynesworth thing didnt happen??

Osi acted out i do admit, but he didnt piss his teammates or coaches off so what r u mad at??

He also didnt miss any games because of his contract situation so whats the big deal?

Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!

Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related

by Blue Gates on Sep 19, 2011 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not mad at Osi Blue

I’m sick of him crying about the contract he signed. He knew darn well when he signed it that the only thing that counted was the garunteed amount, he also knew the team could cancel said contract at it’s choosing, that’s why they gave him most of the money upfront. Yes his teamates and coaches forgave him and you know what, if he goes out there and knocks the crap out of some QB’s so will I, but please spare me the dramatics of trying to make the Giants redue your contract when you have not lived up to the one you got.
Randy Moss started crying about his contract last year and Bill traded his butt, so I highly doubt he would have put up with Osi’s tour de france routine. I’m also prepaired for him to cause more drama next season, when he deems his two years left as only one year left and pulls the same crap again.

by Late for Dinner on Sep 19, 2011 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

He stopped crying about it when Preseason started. Get over it, he did.

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Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
SASH

"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning

SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!

by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 19, 2011 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Because, you don't trade a premier passrusher for tight end

The 4 cornerstones of a franchise are commonly held to be:
Franchise QB
Franchise Left Tackle
Franchise Cornerback
Franchise Passrusher

Regardless of how much the fans “Like” Osi at the moment, he is more valuable than any tight end. He has the ability to completely change a game and a season. Strip-sack at the right time, or KO the QB, and you can single-handedly change the course of a game or even season. Not even Gonzales in his prime could say that.

Not to mention the fact that there is a much greater disparity between good and great DE play than there is between good and great TE play.

by Raptor22 on Sep 19, 2011 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ok except.....

1) What happens if Osi turns out to be Barry Sanders or Carson Palmer 2? Both of those teams LOST in those situations. How does that HELP the Giants? I would say a TE is certainly a whole lot better than a bag full of air….

2) If you put Osi IN – that means you take JPP OUT??? So we drafted a guy to develop, he develops and so we will play him as a part timer sooooooo……. he can develop at the end of his deal, get a Monster deal ala Cofield and we can’t resign him.? Explain to me how that makes sense.

3) Osi is going to go out there an play awesome for us after he called our GM a liar he would never talked to again – then filed suit against the NFL based on the situation – then we put him in a corner and made him come crawling back with his tail between his legs? Would that motivate you to come back and contribute?

4) So we are saying “we are so jacked with talent, we will keep a plethora of high-priced DEs that we will rotate rather than find a starting TE, linebacker or a draft pick”

5) Is he a “premier passrusher” when we can’t even get a sniff for a 1st rounder? You are forgetting, many, like me, consider Osi and overall liability. He is completely one dimensional.

I don’t agree.

by dubsrub on Sep 19, 2011 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

None of our DEs are high priced. Tuck needs a new deal, JPP is on a rookie contract, and Osi is barely making starters money this season.

Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
SASH

"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning

SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!

by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 19, 2011 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Steve Smith

By the way, just the fact that Steve Smith was out there running around last night tells me the Giants and Reese flat out blew it on him….

I was convinced they never made him a good offer because they figured he was flat out DONE. Week two, and he is catching balls for the Eagles, and what they gave him as not earthshaking by any means.

Don’t understand it.

by dubsrub on Sep 19, 2011 2:09 PM EDT reply actions  

+10000000

i dont care what his stats are…he is out there and that is a huuuuuge problem cause now nothing Reese and them did in his situation makes sense.

However, i think he will be back in blue next year if there is no ill will between him and Reese.

Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!

Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related

by Blue Gates on Sep 19, 2011 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

he didnt want to be a giant

not everyone is in love with our team like we are…

"Oh god help us all, the metlife blimps are coming, OMGWFTBBQFTW!!!!!!"
"Who needs a Bomar, when one can have a Perriloux"

by Skii31 on Sep 19, 2011 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

I dont see any sign at all the he didnt want to be a Giant

that is nonsense….seemed like he was dialed in all the way but Reese simply wasnt scared of losing him.

You have your ciew but i dont think any of our FA’s wanted to leave.

Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!

Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related

by Blue Gates on Sep 19, 2011 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

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Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!

Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related

by Blue Gates on Sep 19, 2011 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah Blue

I think Reese miscalculated this one pretty bad.

by Jolly on Sep 19, 2011 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, sure did

The thing is…… thats just the way he is. he doesnt leap after anything or anyone, look at the way he drafts, he stands pat and lets things come to him, same with FA, he is a cold business man. Sometimes it works but this time he played hard ball with guys who were fed up and felt they deserved more of an effort for their services.

I just hope he doesnt operate the same way with TT and Goff but he is in charge, so his word is wood, all we can do is stand behind him and hope he makes the right choices in the long run.

Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!

Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related

by Blue Gates on Sep 19, 2011 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

You won't be thinking Goffs name

After watching the Kracken get a full season under his belt.

Why is Tom Quinn still here? I loves me some Coach Clawfin.

by costanza! on Sep 19, 2011 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

GREG JONES!!!!!

LET’S GO D!!!!

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by Last year in Sec 127 on Sep 19, 2011 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Smith is and Eagle and no amount of complaining is bringing him back this season

Mr. Mara said himself the Giants probably would not have brought him back at 2 mil this season, so blaming JR for Steve being on the Eagles is a waste of time. As fan’s it sucks that Steve is no longer here I get it. However the Giants have a business to run, based on their medical staff’s evaluation of Steve’s knee the Giant’s were only willing to risk 1 million on him for this season. Steve has to look out for himself so he goes to the highest bidder. It sucks but it’s part of the business of football. JR didn’t lowball him he gave him a fair offer, unfortunatly the Eagles were willing to go higher than we were for a WR coming off microfrature surgery.

by Late for Dinner on Sep 19, 2011 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

If you were Steve

Would you take one million dollars less just to play for the Giants?

by Late for Dinner on Sep 19, 2011 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

no

BUT I would have a hard time going to the Eagles but it’s all about the $$.

C.R.E.A.M

nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!

MAKE IT WORK!!!

by nywins42 on Sep 19, 2011 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dollar Dollar bill ya'll

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by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 19, 2011 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why don't we wait and see what he's like in December.

It wouldn’t surprise me at all if they eagles are getting what they can out of him NOW, consequences be damned. Why should THEY care if he ends up ruining he knee and cutting his career short.

The Giants considered him a franchise player, and would have considered these things. IMO, that’s why they wanted to PUP him.

Football players want to play. I doubt it makes a lick of difference if Smith was given a competitive offer by the Giants. They wanted to bring him along slowly, the eagles didn’t. They’re not going to think about their future all that much, especially when they’re young. That’s probably why he didn’t even give them the chance to match.

by Raptor22 on Sep 19, 2011 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yep

I have no problem with the way the front office handled SS and Boss. They took the best offer, can’t blame them for that either, given the chance they are both one more knee issue and one more concussion from beying done. Loved having them in Blue. Time to move forward and accept things for what they are. And everyone, RELAX!! Geez, only played one game.

by Jimmy Orange on Sep 19, 2011 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good point..they tried to handle Mark Bavarro the same way..

He wound up with the 49ers after failing the physical with the Giants..The Giants wanted him to re-hab…He opted to play..It probably cost him a couple of years as a result..

"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."

by Bobbiblue on Sep 19, 2011 4:25 PM EDT reply actions  

Well we need 5 sacks to get back on track

to set the NFL record for number of sacks currently held by the 84 Bears. Go Big Blue, sack ’em !!

I am a fan of Kevin Gilbride and I don't care what you say

by Spider Lockhart on Sep 19, 2011 5:44 PM EDT reply actions  

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