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New York Giants News & Notes: Giants' Safeties Fined

Here are a few notes for you on this Saturday morning, New York Giants fans.

Rolle, Phillips fined

Antrel Rolle was fined $20,000 for unnecessary roughness for spearing—the league’s term—tight end Fred Davis with his helmet in Sunday’s season-opening loss to Washington.

Fellow Miami alum and safety Kenny Phillips was fined $10,000 for unnecessary roughness for having "unnecessarily struck an opponent in the head and neck area," according to the league. The "opponent" in that case also was Fred Davis.

Osi Umenyiora returns to practice field for NY Giants, could return to face Eagles in Week 3

Osi Umenyiora went from the stationary bike to the practice field Friday. And now there's a chance - albeit a slight one - that the veteran pass-rusher could be back in uniform in time for next Sunday's showdown with the Philadelphia Eagles.

The two-time Pro Bowl defensive end opened practice on a field with a trainer. He worked on lining up in three-point stance, exploding and sprinting a few steps, putting pressure on his injured knee. He also worked on rounding a corner against a blocking bag, another move that places strain on a knee that had arthroscopic surgery four weeks ago.

Final Word: NFC East - NFC East Blog - ESPN

Last season, New York Giants opponents completed 56.7 percent of their passes for 6.4 yards per attempt when the Giants had at least five defensive backs on the field. The Giants' opponents Total QBR was 28.7 when they were in nickel or dime packages, the lowest such figure in the league. In the season opener against the Redskins, Rex Grossman completed 63.2 percent of his passes for an average of 9.4 yards per attempt and a Total QBR of 86.9 when the Giants had extra defensive backs on the field. The Giants have suffered quite a few injuries on defense, particularly in the secondary, since the start of training camp, and it seems to show up when they have to dip into their bench for defensive backs.

Star-divide

Ben Patrick, the tight end who retired after a brief stay with the Giants in training camp, has been reinstated by the NFL.

Chris Canty said Friday that the Giants can't worry about the loss to Washington.

"We had to put that game to bed. That game is over. There is nothing we can do about that ballgame," Canty said. "What we can do is come to work. We can come to work focused, intense in our focus, be sharper in our practices, be sharper in our meetings so we can give ourselves a better opportunity to be successful on Monday."Members of the Giants 1986 Super Bowl team will sign autographs for fans prior to Monday night's contest against the St. Louis Rams at MetLife Stadium, the team announced today. The autograph session will take place from 7:00 p.m. - 8:00 p.m. and will be located at the stadium's four main entrances: MetLife, Verizon, Budweiser, and Pepsi Gates. All fans in line will receive a commemorative 25th anniversary 5"x7" autograph card*.

Members of the Giants 1986 Super Bowl team will sign autographs for fans prior to Monday night's game at MetLife Stadium, the team announced today. The autograph session will take place from 7-8 p.m. and will be located at the stadium's four main entrances: MetLife, Verizon, Budweiser, and Pepsi Gates. All fans in line will receive a commemorative 25th anniversary 5 by 7 autograph card.

In addition, several members from the ‘86 team will participate in a fan Q&A session on the MetLife stage, located on the West Plaza. Hosted by NBC-4's Bruce Beck, the Q&A will take place in concurrence with the autograph session.

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Hahaha +1

Aaron Ross thinks because he is fast that he doesnt have to be sound in his technique. He was dreadful last week. Prince has to be an upgrade at least in man coverage.

by brandon7 on Sep 17, 2011 8:28 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Corey and the rest of the DB's have those lapses too

but your right Ross has them consecutively, i still think he can be a very good corner. he seemed to have fixed his mistakes in game, I think he played better towards the end.

Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!

Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related

by Blue Gates on Sep 17, 2011 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not mad about those fans

because at least they were consistent with the rules. However, I just do not agree with fining a player and taking his pay check unless it is an intentional act.

by The Blood of Eli on Sep 17, 2011 8:15 AM EDT reply actions  

I agree.

That A Rolle hit was not intentional at all but the nfl has to get paid by any means I guess.

Factology! Belief is ignorance.

by LoNJDTechnology on Sep 17, 2011 8:59 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

They do

Self-praise is for losers. Be a winner. Stand for something. Always have class, and be humble.
-John Madden

by Willgfass on Sep 17, 2011 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hope they get a tax write off

Team Ghost: Manningham, Sintim, Beckum, Barden, JPP, Anvil, Ross

''It is a tremendous challenge, and I am looking forward to working with these players and re-establishing the New York Giants' tradition of physically controlling the line of scrimmage. 'We want to win the battle at the line of scrimmage, eliminate the disease of turnovers and control field position of special teams.'' -- Tom Coughlin after being hired by NYG on Jan. 7, 2004

by GhostDini on Sep 17, 2011 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

antrel rolle can go make a few appearances

and make this back…. this is nothing as far as monetary value goes to these guys

by The Blood of Eli on Sep 19, 2011 9:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

coffee run

true Giants fans have a Love hate relationship with the team

by Mr.Williams on Sep 17, 2011 8:22 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

I'm surprised they found 2 plays when Davis got hit

next time they need to earn those fines a la Kiwi

"That's mostly fans who say that kind of stuff and they really don't understand the process. We have good players on the team. We're not looking to go out and make every sexy splash that can be made. We make solid football decisions. That's been happening for a long time," Reese said

by trueblue63 on Sep 17, 2011 8:49 AM EDT reply actions  

I sure hope PF is right that the problem With the pass defense was recognition and mental errors

Cause you can’t have a nickel/dime package that turns Rex Grossman into Joe Montana

Calling Ramses Barden Calling Ramses Barden get healthy fast you’re needed in the slot.

"That's mostly fans who say that kind of stuff and they really don't understand the process. We have good players on the team. We're not looking to go out and make every sexy splash that can be made. We make solid football decisions. That's been happening for a long time," Reese said

by trueblue63 on Sep 17, 2011 8:52 AM EDT reply actions  

The Sultan of Swat.

I like that one for Osi

If I am being negative please, don't let it fool you, I am an optimist at heart and I can prove it.

NYG 23 STL 14

by tommy d. on Sep 17, 2011 9:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sultan

I think that’s official as of NOW

"That's mostly fans who say that kind of stuff and they really don't understand the process. We have good players on the team. We're not looking to go out and make every sexy splash that can be made. We make solid football decisions. That's been happening for a long time," Reese said

by trueblue63 on Sep 17, 2011 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think he's needed so one of the starters can slide into the slot more

To me Ramses is an outside receiver. Nicks in the slot would be awesome.

Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!

Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related

by Blue Gates on Sep 17, 2011 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sultan of Swat?

and a Prince to boot…

Some people think football is a matter of life and death. I don't like that attitude. I can assure them it is much more serious than that.

by njsoldier1978 on Sep 17, 2011 9:04 AM EDT reply actions  

I didn't see anything wrong with those hits..

Totally unintentional..The NFL is getting ridiculous…I wonder what they said to the Raiders coach when he said he was going to make/transform them into a ‘bully’?..This moron is publicly promoting illegal hits!!..How much did they fine his butt for his beligerence?…Of course it is the Raiders and I’m sure Davis got his first boner in years.

"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Bring Frank back..or you all can line up and "Kiss my Ass"..This is bullshit..

by Bobbiblue on Sep 17, 2011 9:26 AM EDT reply actions  

unintentional yes

and i agree they should not be fine for unintentional hits. but apparently the nfl does not agree so at least they are consistent. if you hit a guy in the neck/head area you are gonna get fined. simple. i dont like it either but whatever this is just the way it is.

by The Blood of Eli on Sep 17, 2011 9:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

That's correct. Any hit around the head/neck area, whether

intentional or unintentional, will be flagged and fined. They were stupid plays and should’ve never happened.
Besides, we can talk about whether someone did something intentionally or not, but that’s as far as it goes. We cannot see into anyone’s brain or heart and from that, know what their intent is; and if you can do that, you need to get a job with a palm reader. If a rule exists, and it is broken, then there’s a consequence.
They were stupid penalties that should’ve never happened, and we know our team is better than that; we just need to move on.
Time to show it Monday night!
GO GIANTS and to #(%@#_%() with the rest!

Quit playing not to lose. Start playing to WIN! Geeez...

by GAgiantfan on Sep 17, 2011 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Al probably has Viagra or something. So hopefully for him, not his first boner in years.

But I can’t escape the fact that he IS a boner.

If I am being negative please, don't let it fool you, I am an optimist at heart and I can prove it.

NYG 23 STL 14

by tommy d. on Sep 17, 2011 9:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

LOL!!!

"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Bring Frank back..or you all can line up and "Kiss my Ass"..This is bullshit..

by Bobbiblue on Sep 17, 2011 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

ha

now I can’t escape the thought OF his boner.

gonna be a long day…gross

Pathetic

by nywins42 on Sep 17, 2011 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

Don't get scared..It'll be wearing huge eyegalasses...you won't even see it

"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Bring Frank back..or you all can line up and "Kiss my Ass"..This is bullshit..

by Bobbiblue on Sep 17, 2011 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

HA

I feel better now…sort of

Pathetic

by nywins42 on Sep 17, 2011 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Disguised as a old bookworm..

"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Bring Frank back..or you all can line up and "Kiss my Ass"..This is bullshit..

by Bobbiblue on Sep 17, 2011 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

missed you ya old squid...

If I am being negative please, don't let it fool you, I am an optimist at heart and I can prove it.

NYG 23 STL 14

by tommy d. on Sep 17, 2011 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed

Godell is full of it. You tell’em Bobbi!

by oldschoolblue64 on Sep 17, 2011 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Soon it’s going to be flag football.

Get well soon, Prince.

by espnsucks ((banned)) on Sep 17, 2011 9:43 AM EDT reply actions  

Rolle admitted his hit was not legit

but this is the first time I’ve even heard of KP’s hit

Pathetic

by nywins42 on Sep 17, 2011 9:48 AM EDT reply actions  

Did KP get a flag on that play?

I don’t recall one.

If I am being negative please, don't let it fool you, I am an optimist at heart and I can prove it.

NYG 23 STL 14

by tommy d. on Sep 17, 2011 9:59 AM EDT reply actions  

no he didnt

i remember the hit though and i held my breath thinking it was gonna be a penalty…. i forget who the redskin was

by The Blood of Eli on Sep 17, 2011 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

point was bring out the flags for flag football

Kp did nothing wrong at all. But was fined for playing football

by hit_hard on Sep 18, 2011 6:00 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

some encouraging bites there

Osi back at it possibly in time for the Eagles, They’re impressed with Stokeley, and Cruz understands that this is a direct reaction to his lack of performance.

And they get the national spotlight this Monday. Gotta get this one, if for no other reason than to have a little momentum going into Philly.

And seriously fines that size, to these guys, are like us actually digging into our pockets and giving that bum at the train station a dollar, gimme a break.

You down wit JPP?

by Flynner on Sep 17, 2011 10:29 AM EDT reply actions  

+1

Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!

Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related

by Blue Gates on Sep 17, 2011 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yes if Osi and Tuck are back...

It’ll make my ’uncle willy and the twins" salute…

"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Bring Frank back..or you all can line up and "Kiss my Ass"..This is bullshit..

by Bobbiblue on Sep 17, 2011 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

Strip-Sack Osi making progress and close to action. It's a beautiful thing.

I hope his impact is immediate. JJP has done a wonderful job but Osi is my man.

Factology! Belief is ignorance.

by LoNJDTechnology on Sep 17, 2011 10:39 AM EDT reply actions  

Agree..

If they get Osi and Tuck back..combined with Kiwi and JPP..the whole defense will be a monster..

"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Bring Frank back..or you all can line up and "Kiss my Ass"..This is bullshit..

by Bobbiblue on Sep 17, 2011 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

Incorrect. Why would you even think that?

There is no way on God’s green earth Osi doesn’t start. Not a chance.

Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
SASH

"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning

SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!

by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 17, 2011 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wouldn't go that far...

JPP has been impressive… it will be interesting to see how they rotate.

Some people think football is a matter of life and death. I don't like that attitude. I can assure them it is much more serious than that.

by njsoldier1978 on Sep 17, 2011 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would,

Besides the fact he won’t lose his starting job because he was injured, how could the FO and coaching staff justify not starting ihm and having him be a rotational player? It just won’t happen

Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
SASH

"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning

SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!

by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 17, 2011 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Justification would be that JPP is playing better,

if that is the case… I am not saying it will happen, just that it is within the realm of possibility.

Some people think football is a matter of life and death. I don't like that attitude. I can assure them it is much more serious than that.

by njsoldier1978 on Sep 17, 2011 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

What happens if JPP outperforms expectations and has a 4+ sack game this week or next, and dominates against the run, how do you bench that type of two pronged production? Don’t get me wrong, i am not saying this will happen, I just like the problem that it presents… I for one don’t give a damn about Osi’s ego.

Some people think football is a matter of life and death. I don't like that attitude. I can assure them it is much more serious than that.

by njsoldier1978 on Sep 17, 2011 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

osi wont be 100% when he comes back

ill make a E-Bet with you that if osi comes back against philly, JPP starts against Philly over Osi. Im saying it will stay like that, but when Osi comes back thats how I think it will be.

by The Blood of Eli on Sep 17, 2011 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Actually I think the situation is perfect

Osi may still have lingering problems from his injury, which means if he is available for the Eagles game, his snaps should be limited, ostensibly because of the injury. Than we can ease him into accepting that JPP is going to be better than him and that JPP is the future

Self-praise is for losers. Be a winner. Stand for something. Always have class, and be humble.
-John Madden

by Willgfass on Sep 17, 2011 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

EXACTLY!

This could play out very well.

If I am being negative please, don't let it fool you, I am an optimist at heart and I can prove it.

NYG 23 STL 14

by tommy d. on Sep 17, 2011 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

eff Roberts
The #nyg officially signed DE Justin Trattou to the practice squad and cut QB Ryan Perrilloux to make room for the Don Bosco grad.

Get well soon, Prince.

by espnsucks ((banned)) on Sep 17, 2011 11:13 AM EDT reply actions  

That's a bit of a surprise...

Not resigning Trattou, but cutting Perrilloux. I guess if something happens to either Eli or Carr, we’re going for a veteran backup, as Sage is out for the year.

by Cranky50 on Sep 17, 2011 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think it was a bad move too

Maybe they know something we don’t but his arm is good, good mobility (has not been a Giant thing since Tarkenton). His accuracy needs help and maybe his reads were not good enough.

I would have given him more time. Trattou is good but QB is more impt.

All the Giants should play like Mark Bavaro.
Tom Quinn Must Go!
It is equally worthless when people are always optimistic or always pessimistic. Either way I take their opinion with a pound of salt because I know they only have one setting. I post my own thoughts, not what either side wants to read.

by UnknownJintsFan on Sep 17, 2011 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ha

I read that a few times and said, “F Jeff? What does he have against Jeff Roberts?”

Team Ghost: Manningham, Sintim, Beckum, Barden, JPP, Anvil, Ross

''It is a tremendous challenge, and I am looking forward to working with these players and re-establishing the New York Giants' tradition of physically controlling the line of scrimmage. 'We want to win the battle at the line of scrimmage, eliminate the disease of turnovers and control field position of special teams.'' -- Tom Coughlin after being hired by NYG on Jan. 7, 2004

by GhostDini on Sep 17, 2011 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hos was ok with mobility

Some people think football is a matter of life and death. I don't like that attitude. I can assure them it is much more serious than that.

by njsoldier1978 on Sep 17, 2011 11:37 AM EDT reply actions  

yes he was

Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants

by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 17, 2011 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Did we ever figure out exactly what was going on with Ben Patrick

perhaps I missed it, but last I recall the speculation was a failed drug test.

"The nerve of certain youngins running their mouth.
Until [the Eagles] win something major, I don't want to hear it."
-the Facebook mayor of East Rutherford

by pataroons on Sep 17, 2011 5:29 PM EDT reply actions  

Reason

From what I remember, he retired due to personal and family matters. That is all that was said.

Let's Go Giants!

by BB1156 on Sep 17, 2011 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

From Wiki

Arizona Cardinals :
Patrick was selected by the Cardinals with the 25th pick in the seventh round of the 2007 NFL Draft. On September 4, 2007, Patrick was signed to the Arizona Cardinals practice squad after being cut from the roster less than a week earlier. He was promoted to the active roster on October 29. Patrick finished the 2007 season playing in 8 games with 3 games started with 7 receptions for 73 yards, including a long of 21 yards, for two touchdowns. During the 2008 regular season Patrick caught 11 passes for 104 yards, but no touchdowns. In Super Bowl XLIII, against the Pittsburgh Steelers, Patrick caught a 2-yard touchdown pass from quarterback Kurt Warner in the second quarter.

New York Giants :

On August 1, 2011, Patrick signed a one-year contract with the New York Giants. He announced his retirement on August 6. On September 16, Patrick un-retired and was reinstated by the NFL. He became a free agent, since the Giants released him.

Let's Go Giants!

by BB1156 on Sep 18, 2011 12:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

thanks

"The nerve of certain youngins running their mouth.
Until [the Eagles] win something major, I don't want to hear it."
-the Facebook mayor of East Rutherford

by pataroons on Sep 19, 2011 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

I hope Osi is ready for the Eagles

but I am just not confident that he’ll play then. Anyone have an inside track as to how he’s doing?

Quit playing not to lose. Start playing to WIN! Geeez...

by GAgiantfan on Sep 17, 2011 7:59 PM EDT reply actions  

Osi practiced on Friday.

Practiced exploding out of a three point stance, cutting around a tackling dummy (placing pressure on his knee). Gotta believe he’ll play week 3, albeit, in a limited capacity.

Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
SASH

"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning

SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!

by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 18, 2011 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

Stoked on stokley!

Smoke coming out of his ears from reading Killdrive’s playbook! Give him the abridged version (buttonhook!) and get him on the field!

by scarlet knight on Sep 17, 2011 8:39 PM EDT reply actions  

I am fine with him playing out these last two years of his contract.

Lets say he has two injury free seasons in a row, and has two seasons comparable to his 2010 season, this being the likely best case scenario. He will be on the wrong side of 30 at this point and obviously not getting any younger.

I would not pay him what he will think he is worth, because I (playing GM here) have an emerging star at Osi’s position in JPP.

I love the idea of Osi being a situational pass rusher over the next two years with JPP receiving the bulk of playing time.

At this point, I suppose Osi tests the FA market. If he can get a long term deal then I say thank him for his service, and move on. I would not give him a long term deal after 2012. Not with his age and injury history.

If I am being negative please, don't let it fool you, I am an optimist at heart and I can prove it.

NYG 23 STL 14

by tommy d. on Sep 18, 2011 7:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

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