Giants' PFF Review, Week 1

These were all the numbers I wanted. These look about right. I’d disagree with McKenzie rating THAT high. Not just faulting him for that one play, but he seemed to be giving up more pressures than Beatty.

Also, don’t understand Michael Boley’s numbers…I’d say he played much better than that. JPP and Linval seem pretty much spot on. Phillips was someone I singled out too as playing well, so definitely agree with their assessment there.

Cweb in spite of being handcuffed and shackled by Fewell will bounce back this week w/ a big game….

and another very good season

and while I still haven’t watched the replay….for those that swear Kiwi should not be playing LB….MG and PFF seem to think the move is more than justified….can’t say I disagree at all either.

http://rivals.yahoo.com/highschool/blog/prep_rally/post/Arkansas-power-leads-team-29-0-before-it-can-tou?urn=highschool-wp5870

I love the 11 man blitz….

that should be a touchdown every time…

Eli was not as bad as some thought. He just didn’t get any help from the inside OL. How did Beatty, Diehl and Baas BTW?

Our D was really good against the run but the secondary just… absent! And as usual, the ST were as good as their coach…

Thanks again Ed for those stats.

I believe PFF has the number of snaps and you can see what position they played each snap.

Could you get the numbers on the number of time Kiwi lined up at LB vs DE? (Or DT?)

can we get the numbers breakout by OL front five starter, not just KM?

Thanks, interesting.

I’m also curious what if anything they have to say about Manning’s performance as part of that 3.1.

Everyone was jumping off buildings concerning our brutalized LB’s and when they not only step up but step up with a Rookie emergency starter in Jones and play well as a unit surrendering little in the way of run or pass…no one says anything except PFF touts the facts, they were solid. Arguments?

OL was shaky as a unit but the individual components are talented and solid, PFF validates. Arguments?

Secondary hugely banged up and has to control the defensive calls to make sure Greg doesn’t go off the reservation, Kenny plays like Kenny of old…we have no slot cover guy (Rolle ain’t it) like everyone knew, we give up yards and a pass TD…no says anything about Eli going for 286 but Rex gets an inflated 305 and he’s suddenly viable? Arguments?

Whether it’s the box score or PFF they don’t lie we are a good team that needs to quit killing oursleves…Cosell’s asked @ Shutdown Corner about the Gmen at the end of his weekly streaming commentary and he basically says in a matter of fact unworried voice that there were some busted plays the Giants need to clean up and the Rex wasn’t all that accurate and that Eli plays gun slinger sometimes. Arguments?

Three very separate verification of the same thing we all know. We are Giant fans, run the ball, run it again, pass for a first down on 3rd and 3. Play stifling D win by 3 with crazy TOP…Rinse repeat…

for discussion, but really, as Ed eluded to, their goodness stops just beyond discussion.
We had some good developments in that game, and we had some terrible developments as well. For any instance of bad that could be seen, someone could find a good instance to counter.
The culmination of all of this, however, was a loss; though it’s not bad to see where you win some battles while losing the war, though.
Very interesting.

Of my observations during the game. The secondary was playing way too soft. Only KP was hitting and playing with any aggression back there. The O line was poor in protection of Eli. It was a team effort over all. Poor preparation and poor play. What were Canty’s #‘s? I felt he did his job fairly well.
 Let’s hope they clean up the mistakes and play with more intensity this week. A loss here makes a successful 2011 a longshot IMO. And this place will get unbearable if the bridge jumpers all get to tell us “I told you so” for the rest of the season as they call for heads to roll early and often.

it didn’t really seem like a game the Giants threw away either, kind of like the 2nd Eagles game last year and the Titans game. THis one seemed to be one where the Redskins beat the Giants in every facet.

I’d say the Giants beat them out in the run game. We were better at the deep passes. Our OL was (believe it or not) better than the Redskins’ OL. Our defensive line was real good. I think PFF did a good job highlighting our three biggest issues: Secondary (Everybody except Phillips was below average…then again they had Reed Doughty). Our OL vs their pass rush (everybody but McKenzie was either average or below), and Rex threw better than Eli.

Apart from that WTF play with Kerrigan, we were pretty neck and neck throughout the game. We were in position to tie with JPP forced fumble, but our kick was blocked. I wouldn’t say we beat ourselves…Redskins definitely outplayed us….but it was a lot closer than people think. Inconsistency, and inability to capitalize on opportunities was our downfall.

but I do think it makes it even harder to win the next one.
Gotta really focus on creating, and taking advantage of, turnovers.
Gotta run the ball (which will require some blocking).
Penalties need to come to a halt.
Plus, let’s try some tackling this week.

There will be at least one place in Georgia where a Giants fan will be screaming at the TV. Or cheering, however you look at it.

I would like to see what Beatty got because no way did Mckenzie have a good game, the rookie had his way with him that game. As for Boley he seemed very productive to me.

I hate the way PFF does things anyway, never makes sense

But why???

But thinking about it. The Eagles are playing the falcons, Michael Turner may run all over that team and we could be playing for the division lead week 3 if we get it together.

What happened to this guy?

and have me a…

it is a piece of meat that has been severely pounded. Just thought you should know in case you want to change your plans

Kind of gives you a different perspective about Bill Belichick. O the good times we had when he was our D coordinator.

http://www.nfl.com/videos/new-england-patriots/09000d5d82246b02/A-Football-Life-Belichick-takes-a-trip-down-memory-lane

Westhoff:

I have a sign in here that reads, ‘You can’t win with the players that you don’t have.’ Now I don’t like to lose a particular guy but once it happens, then it’s my responsibility to make these guys, to make it work. And I truly believe in that so I don’t 2nd-guess it. I don’t say, ‘Geez. I wish I had so and so back.’ I don’t think of it that way. I find a way to get this guy to beat him (opponent).

Francesa:

How long does it take a talented kid like your new punt returner to not be so conscious of having to catch the ball and now being able to think of attacking the return game? When does it become second nature? Is it going to take him a full season?

Westhoff:

I don’t think so, Mike. That’s a really good question. I don’t think we have a full season. I look at it that when you’re to this point and you’ve worked, I’m expecting it right now….. Those rookie days are over when you run in that stadium. I know, we’re gonna grow and we’re gonna learn but I’m expecting a level of performance equal to the ability.

Someone needs to give the Giants coaches the tape of this interview.

Gilbride shouldn’t be bemoaning over losing Smith and making excuses because Cruz had one drop. It’s his job to put his players in a position to succeed. If someone messes up, then try again. Don’t just give up on him. You might need Cruz later.

Coughlin shouldn’t be so afraid to let Jernigan play in Week 1. Put him out there. You drafted him in the 3rd round for a reason.

Before someone says that Jernigan was bad on punt returns in the preseason or that Cruz was dropping passes in training camp, Jets rookie WR Jeremy Kerley muffed his first punt return against the Cowboys. Unlike the Giants coaches, the Jets coaches weren’t afraid to put him back out there and the kid was fine.

I like the Giants in this game against the Rams. I do think the Rams are better and I think that they can contend for the NFC West but if the Giants were to go out there and not play well in this game… You’re talking about a Monday-night game at home. These are games that if you’re a good football team, you don’t just win. This is a game that the Giants really should dominate and if they don’t look good in this game, then I would have real concerns about the Giants for the rest of the season.

I completely agree. I don’t want just a win. I want Eli to pick apart a team that will be hurting at both CB spots. I want the defense to pound Bradford with Jackson and Amendola not there, or at best, still hurting. If the Giants can’t turn this into a laugher, then we might as well start looking at draft picks.

This game is ours for the taking! We are a more talented team. Monday night at home and DON’T forget it is the 25th Anniversary of the 86’ SB team. So all of the guys will be there. LT, CARSON, BAVARO,MARTIN SIMS!
Let’s Go!!

TEAM GREG MF’ING JONES

#BBVafterdark