Five Questions With 'Turf Show Times'

by Ed Valentine on Sep 15, 2011 10:00 AM EDT in New York Giants News

Head coach Steve Spagnuolo of the St. Louis Rams. (Photo by Dilip Vishwanat/Getty Images)

This week's 'Five Questions' segment is with '3k' from the Turf Show Times, SB Nation's spectacular St. Louis Rams website. Be sure to stop over at 'Turf Show' and read my responses to his questions. And, as always, play nice with the enemy.

Big Blue View: Steve Spagnuolo is in his third season as Rams coach. Assess the job he has done and whether or not you think the Rams would like him to stay long term?

Turf Show Times: It's such a tough assessment, because his first head coaching job has come while the front office was in the midst of remaking (along with the Lions) the worst team in the league from a couple of years ago. I think many of Spags' strengths as a coach (obviously on the defensive side, but I would also say in terms of the offenses he's directed) lend themselves to good teams. Some schemes make bad teams good. Some make good teams even better. The systems Spags has implemented certainly look like the latter even though you'd have a hard time finding someone who would say the Rams are a "good" team.

That being said, I think his tenure here has been a bit of the old cart before the horse. It's left fans clamoring for more risk, more deep passing plays, despite the fact that we don't have a receiver on the roster who can threaten deep on skills alone. So in terms of the job he's done, I guess I'd say adequate, but the defense could have been a very good defense if we had everyone healthy (sound familiar?). As for staying long term, I think that's largely dependent on the progress of the team this year and what you mean by long term. If the Rams finish with at least 6 wins, I expect him to be back. But the more talent the FO brings in, the higher the expectations will rise. And if you can't win the NFC West with a decent team, you honestly don't deserve a head coaching job.

Big Blue View: There are four former Giants on the Rams roster -- James Butler, Craig Dahl, Fred Robbins and Bryan Kehl. Can you give me thoughts on each, and an idea how much we will see each guy on the field Monday night?

Turf Show Times: Butler was serviceable, but teams figured out how to pass around him quickly. To compensate, the Rams plugged in Dahl as a run-stopper and asked more of their corners. It worked well last year, when both Ron Bartell and Bradley Fletcher were healthy. Bartell's now gone for the year and Fletcher picked up a toe injury, so the Rams are going to have to find someone to cover for Dahl in pass D quickly, or he'll have too much negative tape to be here much longer. Robbins was great last year, especially in run defense. The Rams have tried for years to fill the nose role, with La'Roi Glover, Hollis Thomas and finally Robbins. We drafted Darell Scott to play that part a couple of years ago, but he hasn't been able to combine his brute strength with the on-field awareness needed for the position. And Kehl's been relatively steady. He's certainly not an All-Pro, but he's been a strong tackler and provides a good knowledge of the system in both running and passing situations.

Big Blue View: The Rams have a brutal schedule the first half of the season. The Giants did not look good Sunday against Washington. Looking at the first half schedule, how does this one rank in terms of degree of difficulty?

Turf Show Times: How does the Giants game look as a Rams fan? I mean, this is an untested team. The Rams just aren't ever on the national stage. The one time we have been in the last half decade was week 17 last year in the 17-3 debacle that saw Seattle into the playoffs. So going into MetLife on Monday Night Football sitting 0-1 with Baltimore the week after...let's just say I'll hold on to any optimism I have for after the bye.

Big Blue View: You already have a bunch of former Giants. If, however, you could take one guy off the current Giants' roster and put him in the Rams' lineup who would it be? Why?

Turf Show Times: Hakeem Nicks in a second. I I loved him going into the draft. I'm still upset that he didn't fall to us in the second round.

Big Blue View: What concerns you most about the Giants? What weakness(es) do you think the Rams can exploit?

Turf Show Times: Most concerning is that defensive line. Our offensive line was pretty poor in pass blocking this week, which was relatively unexpected. They've got to be better this week. On weaknesses the Rams can exploit, I have to feel our blitz packages are going to make Eli go all Eli. He's one wacky arm, no?

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To summarize

The Rams don’t have much of a chance unless Eli flat out gives us the game.

Blue is the color of melancholy and honesty
Green is the color of inexperience, envy and nausea.

by roguetrader on Sep 15, 2011 10:15 AM EDT reply actions

yeah, same deal with the deadskins last week too, right?

I think we should stow our bravado until we play like a team that wants to win and even then, thumping the Rams hardly makes us world beaters.

by TNYFBG on Sep 15, 2011 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions

Lets not get cocky

this team has not shown us a damn thing to assume that we’re going to steamroll the Rams, even with their injuries. Eli has to play a controlled, complete game and the defense needs to stop giving up big plays

by MrDollarBills on Sep 15, 2011 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions

not just Eli

the OL, dbacks, playing calling on offense and defense

by GMen56-11 on Sep 15, 2011 1:46 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions

we are better than the Rams

In terms of talent. But if we keep playing dumb football, like INT’s for TDs, costly penalties, bad field position, drops, and the Rams don’t make mistakes? They will beat us

But I think we play better and even our record at 1-1

If I am being negative please, don't let it fool you, I am an optimist at heart and I can prove it.

by tommy d. on Sep 15, 2011 3:52 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions

We just lost to the Skins

I’m not feeling to confidant right now.

by Late for Dinner on Sep 15, 2011 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions

My confidence is shaken as well.

But certainly not broken. 2007, 0-2, 80 something points gave up in first two weeks. I’m sure you remember. :-)

If I am being negative please, don't let it fool you, I am an optimist at heart and I can prove it.

by tommy d. on Sep 15, 2011 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions

idk

as far as im concered we are just as bad as the rams

by The Blood of Eli on Sep 15, 2011 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions

We still

Have most of our play makers.

My Wife is a Patriot's fan...

by Giantssincesix on Sep 15, 2011 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions

question is

can they make plays?

by The Blood of Eli on Sep 15, 2011 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions

Nicks and Ham can

so can AB and BJ

by MrDollarBills on Sep 15, 2011 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions

I saw Nicks make a play...

Gilbride handcuffed the rest of that offense

Pathetic

by nywins42 on Sep 15, 2011 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions

IMO

I think we are playing as bad as the bad teams in this league.. However, I believe we have the talent to become as good as the best teams in the league..

But nothing rings truer than Mr B. Parcells…
“you are what your record says you are.”

"Oh god help us all, the metlife blimps are coming, OMGWFTBBQFTW!!!!!!"
"Who needs a Bomar, when one can have a Perriloux"

by Skii31 on Sep 15, 2011 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions

Too many injuries

and holes on offense lead me to believe that we’re middle of the pack at best

by MrDollarBills on Sep 15, 2011 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions

The football season.....

is a battle of attrition. All teams have injuries, just ask the Rams. The 2010 Packers had all kinds of injuries last year. You have to survive and your guys have to step up. Coach has to find ways to work to your players strength. It’s a long season. Let’s wee where it goes…

TCB
Van Pelt on the tackle....
Wide right forever.....
18 and 1 GIANT lose.......

by zoosloose on Sep 15, 2011 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions

Hey that's Turf Show Times take not mine

Although I don’t disagree too much.

We have a better team, we’re at home and hopefully pissed off and they have serious injury problems.

Blue is the color of melancholy and honesty
Green is the color of inexperience, envy and nausea.

by roguetrader on Sep 15, 2011 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions

I'm sure by "wacky"

he meant “elite”

your mom goes to college

by Oppenheimer919 on Sep 15, 2011 10:20 AM EDT reply actions

You guys are sick! LMAO!

Wacky Arm!!!! G’damn! I spilled ma’shyte all over the place LMAO!

by Bavaro 89 on Sep 15, 2011 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions

LOL

by nard100 on Sep 15, 2011 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions

Loved this comment

He’s one wacky arm, no?

Ain’t it the truth?

Second favorite:

I have to feel our blitz packages are going to make Eli go all Eli.

I hope not but who knows which Eli shows up?

All the Giants should play like Mark Bavaro.
Tom Quinn Must Go!
It is equally worthless when people are always optimistic or always pessimistic. Either way I take their opinion with a pound of salt because I know they only have one setting. I post my own thoughts, not what either side wants to read.

by UnknownJintsFan on Sep 15, 2011 10:22 AM EDT reply actions

thats definitely one way to sum up eli

by The Blood of Eli on Sep 15, 2011 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions

didn't want to offend

But Eli is the most Eli quarterback in the league.

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"my keyboard won't corporate, neighter will my smell check." - Knoxfan

by 3k on Sep 15, 2011 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions

you heard of HAM?

Well Eli goes EAM…. Eli As a MotherF****r

by The Blood of Eli on Sep 15, 2011 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions

really wish I had Photoshop at work

I’d put a shop up of Hov, Kanye and Eli together

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by 3k on Sep 15, 2011 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions

as long as you do it at home

we’ll forgive you.

http://brotherspork.wordpress.com/

by Infemous on Sep 15, 2011 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions

lol

that he is.

"Oh god help us all, the metlife blimps are coming, OMGWFTBBQFTW!!!!!!"
"Who needs a Bomar, when one can have a Perriloux"

by Skii31 on Sep 15, 2011 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions

How more Eli could he be?

The answer is “None more Eli, really”…

by Raptor22 on Sep 15, 2011 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs

Very well played.

by Abrantes on Sep 15, 2011 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions

God, I'm glad SOMEBODY got that...

I was starting to get worried.

by Raptor22 on Sep 15, 2011 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions

I'm excited

I want to see how we improve this week.

I want to see those players who decided to open their mouth after our loss to put that stuff in action.

I want to see how our young guys handle a Monday Night Game.

My Wife is a Patriot's fan...

by Giantssincesix on Sep 15, 2011 10:23 AM EDT reply actions

This is exactly how I feel lol

except I’ve got a bit more fear of being the away team, and I’m less confident in our depth than you guys should be after being decimated by injuries

http://brotherspork.wordpress.com/

by Infemous on Sep 15, 2011 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions

I have to feel our blitz packages are going to make Eli go all Eli. He's one wacky arm, no?

Make Eli be Eli, we all know that Beckum is Beckum. We’re doomed bro!
Wacky = Elite ….Still LMAO!

by Bavaro 89 on Sep 15, 2011 10:35 AM EDT reply actions

I am excited

another week to gel, another week to find our mistakes, if we start out the season 3-3, we are going to the playoffs!!!

no more of that 6-2 crap..

Eli will get better as soon as KG helps develop the trust of the WR.. Brandon Stokley definately helps all around.

"Oh god help us all, the metlife blimps are coming, OMGWFTBBQFTW!!!!!!"
"Who needs a Bomar, when one can have a Perriloux"

by Skii31 on Sep 15, 2011 10:36 AM EDT reply actions

that is definitely a positive way to look at it

and not out of the question either… usually this time of the year we just kicked someones ass 42-17 or something

by The Blood of Eli on Sep 15, 2011 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions

meh

the first couple games are usually pretty ugly (‘08 being the exception). The asskickings don’t begin until weeks 3-4.

by Raptor22 on Sep 15, 2011 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions

This

I’d like this win, but smashing the Iggles is paramount.

"I’m not trying to be like Peyton; I’m trying to do it the way I know how." -Eli Manning

by BleedBigBlue on Sep 15, 2011 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions

If we loose to the Rams

but doing so helps us beat the Eagles and then go on a 12-1 run after it, I am all for loosing to the Rams.

"Oh god help us all, the metlife blimps are coming, OMGWFTBBQFTW!!!!!!"
"Who needs a Bomar, when one can have a Perriloux"

by Skii31 on Sep 15, 2011 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions

Oh, but imagine the bridge jumpers that would happen then...

I don’t think I’d TOUCH my computer until after the eagles game.

by Raptor22 on Sep 15, 2011 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions

If we can't beat the Skins and the Rams

How the heck are we going to beat the Eagles? Let’s just worry about the Rams right now between Killdrive forgeting the strength of the Offense is the running game to Perry playing prevent D in coverage on top of mistakes and injury we are going to have our hands full Monday night. This is not the same team we thought we were going to have before the season started.

by Late for Dinner on Sep 15, 2011 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions

every which way but loose!

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"my keyboard won't corporate, neighter will my smell check." - Knoxfan

by 3k on Sep 15, 2011 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions

If you guys have any other questions,

I’ll try to stop in sporadically and answer them. And no, I shant discuss injuries. The potential jinx level for our teams has hit infinite levels.

Turf Show Times editor, Mocking the Draft writer, and I gots that Twitter too, yo.
"my keyboard won't corporate, neighter will my smell check." - Knoxfan

by 3k on Sep 15, 2011 10:38 AM EDT reply actions

should i trade fro cadillac in my fantasy league?

i drafted sjax in the 2nd round

by The Blood of Eli on Sep 15, 2011 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions

I lost out

in the waivers for cadillac.. At least 3 teams in my league, tried to claim him..

"Oh god help us all, the metlife blimps are coming, OMGWFTBBQFTW!!!!!!"
"Who needs a Bomar, when one can have a Perriloux"

by Skii31 on Sep 15, 2011 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions

yeah me too

by The Blood of Eli on Sep 15, 2011 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions

tough to say

We haven’t seen what the realistic workload is going to look like. This could be the high point for his value (bear in mind, I’m not a huge fantasy guy), with his strong performance against the Eagles and with Jackson out this week. I think the real question is whether or not you think Caddy is going to play well enough this week to warrant, say, 30-40% of the carries when Jackson gets healthy.

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"my keyboard won't corporate, neighter will my smell check." - Knoxfan

by 3k on Sep 15, 2011 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions

yeah definitely a tough call

im just worried that stevens injury is gonna limit him for the year

by The Blood of Eli on Sep 15, 2011 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions

could

depends on how quickly he comes back. Cadillac was more than competent last week. Picked up a first down that was all effort; got hit three yards short, but kept turning the legs and rolled over the tackler for the first. We haven’t had a backup RB that could do that since Jackson was backing up Faulk.

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"my keyboard won't corporate, neighter will my smell check." - Knoxfan

by 3k on Sep 15, 2011 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions

depends on how long SJax is out for

but if you can get Caddy, get him.

He’ll be a factor, if not in the run game, as a checkdown and used in the screen game to beat blitzes.

He showed last week he was most certainly capable of catching the ball and taking it downfield.

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by Infemous on Sep 15, 2011 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions

I have

Bradford, Kendricks on my FF team, both as Number 2’s.. Is this a good idea in your opinion.

I have the Rams as a sleeper team for putting points on the board. which is where it matters most in FF.

"Oh god help us all, the metlife blimps are coming, OMGWFTBBQFTW!!!!!!"
"Who needs a Bomar, when one can have a Perriloux"

by Skii31 on Sep 15, 2011 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions

Kendricks, absolutely

He’s going to be a fantasy stud when he gets it all together. He had two horrible drops last week, but expect that get to cleaned up. One was an absolute fluke (and would’ve likely been a TD). He gets open regularly and showed immediate chemistry with Sam from the preseason; it was on display last week as well. He’s got some adjustments to make (he’s still working a bit too flat in zone routes), but fantasy-wise I would definitely keep him this season. He’s got huge potential for both receptions and TDs.

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"my keyboard won't corporate, neighter will my smell check." - Knoxfan

by 3k on Sep 15, 2011 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions

Thanks man,

I have him under Gonzalez.. I think I will wait just a couple more weeks before I start Kendricks, unless he makes it impossible for me not to start him of course.

"Oh god help us all, the metlife blimps are coming, OMGWFTBBQFTW!!!!!!"
"Who needs a Bomar, when one can have a Perriloux"

by Skii31 on Sep 15, 2011 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions

yeah, I can't endorse him fantasy-wise to start yet

but then again, he’s going to have a breakout game at some point before the bye. He’s too talented and Sam loves to target tight ends.

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"my keyboard won't corporate, neighter will my smell check." - Knoxfan

by 3k on Sep 15, 2011 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions

I'm worried about Spags

His familiarity with the Giants should make things interesting, injuries or not.

As for Eli, time for him to put up for a full 60 minutes. The defense is banged up. While he may not be Tom Brady or Peyton Manning, he still gets paid like them. Time for him to earn his contract and carry this team like a Super Bowl MVP should.

Last week I watched our defense play great at times while our offense struggled. Then when our offense got it done, our defense couldn’t hold it together. The onus is on this offense (and primarily, the guy who gets paid more than most of that starting offense combined) to put the pedal down and score like they are capable of for a full sixty minutes.

Part of that, however, is on Gilbride, and I know Ed loves to defend him like it’s his job, but the guy cost us a number of times on Sunday. How many times are you going to call Bradshaw’s number in short yardage, and even worse, have him running laterally? I counted four (third and fourth downs). If it’s not working, try something else.

Also, we got the ball back with 37 seconds at the end of the second half, with three timeouts. Why are we not trying to score there? Any other team in the league that isn’t up by at least seven would have been trying to get three points out of that, minimum. It’s as if the Giants don’t even want to gameplan to win, and it’s starting to piss me off.

by Max Schwager on Sep 15, 2011 11:11 AM EDT reply actions

Jacobs stinks in short yardage

but yeah, the game management is absolutely horrible.

Giants can’t stop anyone’s offense, but teams pretty much know what we’re going to do every down. It’s maddening. We need a fresh start

by MrDollarBills on Sep 15, 2011 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions

He does

Bradshaw, on the other hand, is good in short yardage, but you have to give him the ball going up the middle. It’s as if Gilbride doesn’t even know his own personnel at times. Bradshaw is good at making quick little cuts to find the small hole inside. However, when you bounce him outside on that kind of play, it’s almost as if you take the play out of his hands.

by Max Schwager on Sep 15, 2011 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions

how did that work out last week?

Pathetic

by nywins42 on Sep 15, 2011 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions

That's what I'm talking about...

It didn’t work last week, not because of Bradshaw, but because of the play being called.

by Max Schwager on Sep 15, 2011 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions

Problem is not Eli it's Killdrive

Are we going to stay commited to running the ball, or just keep trying to throw it down the field. Are we going to utilize Jacobs?

by Late for Dinner on Sep 15, 2011 11:33 AM EDT reply actions

run the ball?

why? I’d prefer to watch Manning throw off of his backfoot

by MrDollarBills on Sep 15, 2011 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions

Is that you Asante? Sharper?

Pathetic

by nywins42 on Sep 15, 2011 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions

To the wrong color'ed uniform

When its 3rd and long, throw the ball past the marker.

by Fester McDougal on Sep 15, 2011 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions

Kehl has been steady, huh?

The Giants could have used a steady LB last year. Too bad Reese didn’t draft him.

Team Ghost: Manningham, Sintim, Beckum, Barden, JPP, Anvil, Ross

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by GhostDini on Sep 15, 2011 11:40 AM EDT reply actions

Yeah, they kept Wilkerson over Kehl

Thought that was a mistake. Proved to be so.

by UnknownJintsFan on Sep 15, 2011 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions

not really

Kehl hasnt done much for the Rams. He’s not even starting. If we cut Wilkinson instead of Kehl it would have bought him another year. He wouldnt have made the team this season with all the young LBs we kept

by GMen56-11 on Sep 15, 2011 2:00 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions

I disagree with 3k on Kehl

If it was down to me, he’d be yours in an instant lol.

Basically, Kehl is solid at the basics, but he doesn’t do much.

You’ll sometimes see him in on a special teams tackle, or you’ll see him piling onto a stopped guy with the rest of the defense, he MIGHT make a nice tackle in general, but often you see him not affecting the play in any way. And it’s not because he’s so good people run away from him, or pass away from him.

It seems to me that he’s seldom on the field, and I’m pretty sure he started the game.

From a roster management standpoint, I’m not enamoured with his age or his lack of athleticism. Too often last year he was embarrassed on swing passes, screens, tosses and anything to the outside. Horrifically he’d identify the play and try and get there, but just never could do it. That’s no use.

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by Infemous on Sep 15, 2011 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions

So Basically Kehl is doing the same things he did when he was here

by Late for Dinner on Sep 15, 2011 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions

i can imagine

you’d be content with it for depth, but for a starter you scream for something a bit more impressive.

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by Infemous on Sep 15, 2011 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions

"Turf Show Times" is a pretty good name

by long time listener on Sep 15, 2011 11:48 AM EDT reply actions

I agree...

although it has been a horror show for a while

Pathetic

by nywins42 on Sep 15, 2011 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions

we went with the Smurfs Throw Limes for a while

The end of the Bulger era was difficult to take.

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by 3k on Sep 15, 2011 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions

Ha!

classic, 3k…classic

Pathetic

by nywins42 on Sep 15, 2011 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions

Good one. :-)

If I am being negative please, don't let it fool you, I am an optimist at heart and I can prove it.

by tommy d. on Sep 15, 2011 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions

The Rams are better than the Redskins..is Bradford playing?

If he plays, I think they have pretty even shot of winning Monday.

by schmosterballs92 on Sep 15, 2011 1:25 PM EDT reply actions

yup

He practiced yesterday and the finger was reportedly 100%.

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"my keyboard won't corporate, neighter will my smell check." - Knoxfan

by 3k on Sep 15, 2011 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions

oh poop...

that’s great…believe me though – injuries are going to cripple teams this year. Losing Jackson, if only for 1 more game, hurts. Amendola…wow.

Spagnuolo is loved by Giants fans and I root for the Rams every week – minus this one, obviously.

Pathetic

by nywins42 on Sep 15, 2011 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions

The Bartell injury could be the most significant

He’s been one of the most underrated corners in the league for the last two years. Add to that that we lost Jerome Murphy in the preseason and two of our top three corners played a total of 1 game (and not even an entire game at that) for the 2011 season, barring a surprise return by either.

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"my keyboard won't corporate, neighter will my smell check." - Knoxfan

by 3k on Sep 15, 2011 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions

Wow...

It seems like the Rams and Giants are going through the same set of circumstances.

It sucks to see guys go down like this.

Pathetic

by nywins42 on Sep 15, 2011 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions

Is a Win a Win?

Who feels the GIants have to win this game in a convincing manner?

I do.

by BLUEYOU on Sep 15, 2011 2:52 PM EDT reply actions

+1

Pathetic

by nywins42 on Sep 15, 2011 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions

A win is a win

I don’t care how, just get a W

"Winning is the most important thing in my life, after breathing. Breathing first, winning next."

by Larry Soprano on Sep 15, 2011 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions

just win

for the moment thats what counts most, and no more injuries

Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants

by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 15, 2011 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions

Bottom Line...

Is that we need to win this game. We simply have the better talent to do so! They are hurting more than us.

by oldschoolblue64 on Sep 15, 2011 4:14 PM EDT reply actions

Who is Bradford most likely to victimize on your defense?

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by Infemous on Sep 15, 2011 4:57 PM EDT reply actions

or should I say target

victimize makes it sound like he’s actually gonna do some damage…

I can only hope.

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by Infemous on Sep 15, 2011 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions

In general, the Giants have had trouble covering the middle of the field

for a long time now. Good TE’s beat us on seam routes, and you just have to look at last weeks game to see how WR’s would run 8-16 yards down the field, cut towards the middle, find the hole in the zone, and await the pass.

Aaron Ross, one of our starting corners is just ok, and got beat on a 40+ yard pass last week, followed immediately by about a 15 yard back shoulder fade for a TD.

I was in the end zone when the TD pass happened and a Giant fan behind me asked: “What just happened?” I turned around and told him that that was the “Aaron Ross got beat like a bitch drive.”

If I am being negative please, don't let it fool you, I am an optimist at heart and I can prove it.

by tommy d. on Sep 15, 2011 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions

let's hope our guys catch then

Kendricks has looked good getting open so far in his short career, but last sunday smashed our confidence in his hands… he has to reinstil it by being a factor vs you guys it seems!

Man, I don’t know why, but I’ve always like Aaron Ross, and to hear him being the weak link on your team makes me feel kinda awful, sad etc, but also like him more, coz he may give us a chance to win away on MNF!

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by Infemous on Sep 16, 2011 12:18 AM EDT up reply actions

LOL on the Ross contradiction.

He played well and helped us win a championship in 2007, but it has been constant nagging injuries since then, and less than great play.

I was a big fan for 2 years, now I just keep hoping to be pleasantly surprised.

I can’t wait to see Al Harris again this Monday night. :-)

If I am being negative please, don't let it fool you, I am an optimist at heart and I can prove it.

NYG 23 STL 14

by tommy d. on Sep 16, 2011 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions

Let's be honest here...

is it possible for the Rams to beat us?? Absolutely. SHOULD they beat us?? Absolutely not. With no Amendola or Jackson, the Rams offense is nowhere near as good as it normally is. This is one of those games where the only way the Giants lose the game is if we beat ourselves with stupid penalties, costly turnovers, and soft defense.

We should be able to run the ball effectively and use it to set up our play action. With Nicks I see a 31-14 style game. Without him it’ll be more like 24-10.

by sexyscottish on Sep 15, 2011 5:20 PM EDT reply actions

Stupid penalties, costly turnovers, and soft defense.

Sounds too much like the reality of last week. Sigh….

If I am being negative please, don't let it fool you, I am an optimist at heart and I can prove it.

NYG 23 STL 14

by tommy d. on Sep 16, 2011 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions

Ouch!

He is your friend, your partner, your defender, your dog. You are his life, his love, his leader. He will be yours, faithful and true, to the last beat of his heart. You owe it to him to be worthy of such devotion.

by gobs56 on Sep 16, 2011 8:17 AM EDT reply actions

Thanks.

You got anything to clean my keyboard?

Oh boy, is this great!

by MayIhave10,000marblesplease? on Sep 16, 2011 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions

Who in the rams secondary covers top receivers

Nicks, and Manningham? and are they good enough to blanket them, or should Eli be able to find some room to work on the outside?

You down wit JPP?

by Flynner on Sep 17, 2011 10:12 AM EDT reply actions

Bradley Fletcher is our best CB

We just lost Bartell though for the season. Who also was a good CB. The other CB is going to be Justin King/Al Harris. Justin King is athletic but I don’t have any trust in him. He was supposed to be the 4th CB going into the season. But we lost Jerome Murphy in the preseason. Who was going to be the nickle CB. So Justin King is now our #2 CB. Al Harris might take that role but he is 36 years old. He didn’t look bad in preseason but he has lost a step.

I imagine Flectcher will cover Nicks.

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by FlimtotheFlam on Sep 17, 2011 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions