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St. Louis Rams: First Look At This Week's Opponent

The St. Louis Rams will look awfully familiar to New York Giants fans on Monday night. There is, of course, ample reason for that.

They are coached by former Giants defensive coordinator Steve Spagnuolo. They have four former Giants on their roster -- safeties James Butler and Craig Dahl, defensive tackle Fred Robbins and linebacker Bryan Kehl.

Oh, one more thing that will look familiar to Giants' fans. The Rams enter Week 2 of the NFL season all beat up.

Star-divide

CB Ron Bartell (broken neck) and WR Danny Amendola (dislocated elbow) will not play. Running back RB Steven Jackson (quad), who is looking for a seventh straight 1,000-yard season, is unlikely to play. Second-year quarterback Sam Bradford will try to play despite a badly bruised index finger on his throwing hand.

Here is Spagnuolo on the radio Tuesday, sounding a refrain we have heard a lot around the Giants.

"We took some hits," Spagnuolo said. "It’s difficult to get any of them any time, but when they come in the first game, it was a little bit rough.

"But we got to bounce back. It’s a long season to go…. Hopefully the guys that are behind them are ready to go."

The Rams are 0-1 after a season-opening loss to the Philadelphia Eagles.

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We better not play a lot of zone again

I don’t need to see the Giants secondary look bad against the Rams on MNF.

Coughlin said the team had implemented both man-to-man and zone coverages into its defensive scheme going in, but opted to lean more toward zone coverage in the second half.

"We didn’t play a whole lot of man in the first half, but in order to incorporate some of the pressures you wanna put in, you gotta play some man coverage."

Team Ghost: Manningham, Sintim, Beckum, Barden, JPP, Anvil, Ross

by GhostDini on Sep 14, 2011 11:06 AM EDT reply actions  

what does this even mean

?!?!?!

he’s like saying “water is wet”.

this is why i really don’t even care to hear from the coaching staff any more….

TeamJPP

by andiamo708 on Sep 14, 2011 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don't like

hearing from Eli, more than I like hearing from the coaches.

the posters here are so clever, that sometimes they don't understand a single word of what they're saying."

"saying you are right when you’re wrong only gives you the right to be wrong"

An optimist is a person that falls off the empire state building and after 50 floor says so far so good!

by murderhill on Sep 14, 2011 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oopps

Don’t like hearing from coaches*

the posters here are so clever, that sometimes they don't understand a single word of what they're saying."

"saying you are right when you’re wrong only gives you the right to be wrong"

An optimist is a person that falls off the empire state building and after 50 floor says so far so good!

by murderhill on Sep 14, 2011 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

But Eli gets his script from TC

"That's mostly fans who say that kind of stuff and they really don't understand the process. We have good players on the team. We're not looking to go out and make every sexy splash that can be made. We make solid football decisions. That's been happening for a long time," Reese said

by trueblue63 on Sep 14, 2011 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

i sooner listen

to Eli stumble, stutter, and stammer his way through a million more interviews

than listen these coaches try to pull the wool over my eyes….

at least Eli keeps it real…maybe you don’t agree w/ him….but he keeps it real.

Word to him shitting all over Tiki’s life after the Super Bowl, No commenting Plax, and supporting Barden when Gilbride was killing the kid at every turn

TeamJPP

by andiamo708 on Sep 14, 2011 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed!

If I am being negative please, don't let it fool you, I am an optimist at heart and I can prove it.

by tommy d. on Sep 14, 2011 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Eli "You Know" Manning

He needs a speech therapist. Everything is “you know” with him. I’ve counted 50 of them in a 5-minute interview.

Team Ghost: Manningham, Sintim, Beckum, Barden, JPP, Anvil, Ross

by GhostDini on Sep 14, 2011 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

and what about Manningham

he’s gotten better I’ll give him credit but wow….he gives Eli a run for his money in the “ummm / errr / ya mean” department

TeamJPP

by andiamo708 on Sep 14, 2011 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Manningham is a WR

He has no expectations. Eli is the QB and actually has to talk to the media.

Team Ghost: Manningham, Sintim, Beckum, Barden, JPP, Anvil, Ross

by GhostDini on Sep 14, 2011 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

the point is...

you don’t have to be Winston Churchill

or Curtis Granderson for that matter….to be good at sports

TeamJPP

by andiamo708 on Sep 14, 2011 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

T.O.

I don’t know who says “you know” more. Eli or T.O.

by Dirt Marguirk on Sep 14, 2011 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Eli...

TO is too busy weeping about “his” quarterbacks, haha.

by WideRight! on Sep 15, 2011 6:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think TC is trying to say

“We need to play better football” then Eli jumped in and agreed.

Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants

by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 14, 2011 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Forget "better football"

I’ll be happy if they start playing regular football.

I don’t care what the coverage scheme is, the DBs need to show some guts. I don’t remember seeing more than 1 or 2 plays where they were getting on the receiver, challenging them for the ball. There was way too much ‘sit 5 yards off while they make the catch, then try for the big hit but get juked out of your socks’ coverage going on.

On offense, I don’t know what it’s gonna take, but I almost hope Nicks sits on Monday because maybe it’ll force us to actually use the running game to full advantage.

by BleedBigBlue on Sep 14, 2011 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

lol

“We must and I mean must play better” Right Eli? Yep I Agree coach “We have to play better” That’s my boy. Now let’s get some Ice cream son. Yayyyyyyyyy Thanks coach.

Why is Tom Quinn still here? I loves me some Coach Clawfin.

by costanza! on Sep 14, 2011 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

lol

If I am being negative please, don't let it fool you, I am an optimist at heart and I can prove it.

by tommy d. on Sep 14, 2011 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah I'm not sure what to make of that either

I guess I just hope they address the admitted coverage issues better than they address the admitted problem with the RB carry disparity.

your mom goes to college

by Oppenheimer919 on Sep 14, 2011 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Has Coughlin ever said anything that meant anything?

Or any coach?

Coughlin’s going to speak his coach speak, and Eli will follow. That doesn’t mean one thing or another of what they actually mean

Self-praise is for losers. Be a winner. Stand for something. Always have class, and be humble.
-John Madden

by Willgfass on Sep 14, 2011 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Because of CBs?

Do you think it’s because he doesn’t trust the CBs in man?

by Fishhead202 on Sep 14, 2011 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

He doesnt trust the Safeties

Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!

Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related

by Blue Gates on Sep 14, 2011 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

At least they have man to man coverage on the brain.

Now how about changing the names of your audibles!!!

Now in section 133.

by Last year in Sec 127 on Sep 14, 2011 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1

It is just plain stupid to use ALL the same audibles when playing against former teammates. When you let players go to division rivals, you have to expect that they’re going to do everything they can to help their new team win, especially against their former team. I realize that it might be difficult to change all that stuff for the whole offense, but when you’ve got a former Giant right on the line, who was with the team for many years and knows all the audibles just as well as the offense, it might be prudent to switch up at least a few of them.

by BleedBigBlue on Sep 14, 2011 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

No one really changes the name of their audibles

they just usually change the audible it self……..“Omaha” in the first quarter is not the same as “Omaha” in the 3rd quarter, the name is not a big deal.

Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!

Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related

by Blue Gates on Sep 14, 2011 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Continued

ESPN NY

Grant said he didn’t want to give away the team’s future adjustments going forward, but he did say the Giants have played the Redskins "differently" in the past, meaning more man-to-man coverage."

"We had to, we had to," Grant said. "We don’t have as many guys as we did last year, so we had to be very conservative as to what we could throw at them. … Last year we played them more man-to-man. … I don’t wanna throw it out there, but we definitely played them differently."

So not having Thomas and Johnson means that KP, Rolle, Ross, Webster, and Grant can’t play man? That’s nonsense.

Team Ghost: Manningham, Sintim, Beckum, Barden, JPP, Anvil, Ross

by GhostDini on Sep 14, 2011 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Then why have Coe on the roster

If he is that bad cut him

This is nonsense. Seriously if Coe is useless why not look into Hanson? Use him as the slot-nickel DB and let Ross and CWEB play press. Of course you toss a zone out every so often to keep em guessing, but I’m sick of this.

"That's mostly fans who say that kind of stuff and they really don't understand the process. We have good players on the team. We're not looking to go out and make every sexy splash that can be made. We make solid football decisions. That's been happening for a long time," Reese said

by trueblue63 on Sep 14, 2011 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hanson resigned with Philly

Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
SASH

"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning

SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!

by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 14, 2011 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hanson re-signed with the Eagles.

2011 Big Blue View Pick' Em Record: 10-6 (2nd place)

by BrooksBridges11 on Sep 14, 2011 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sorry I'm not a roster hound

I’d keep a kicker if it was useful rather than a CB that can’t cover at all

"That's mostly fans who say that kind of stuff and they really don't understand the process. We have good players on the team. We're not looking to go out and make every sexy splash that can be made. We make solid football decisions. That's been happening for a long time," Reese said

by trueblue63 on Sep 14, 2011 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

And for the record

I think Coe can play. His play in pre at least merits a peek a boo. I’m just disgusted with the way they make decisions. At least you try to do what you think is better, you give Coe or whoever a shot. Then if it stinks, you switch.

Giving up before you try is just cowardice.

"That's mostly fans who say that kind of stuff and they really don't understand the process. We have good players on the team. We're not looking to go out and make every sexy splash that can be made. We make solid football decisions. That's been happening for a long time," Reese said

by trueblue63 on Sep 14, 2011 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Have to get back to attacking on D..

It’s very simple….we sit back and don’t blitz it’ll be a long ride back to LI for me!

It's OK we don't want anybody on the Giants bandwagon it's faster without all the dead weight!

by bleedblue12 on Sep 14, 2011 11:20 AM EDT reply actions  

Rex was on fire

He has games like that. However, when we were pressuring him, he started to crack. We had him in 3rd and long and only rushed 3. He had all day and got the first down. WTH?

I think it’s going to be a very long season.

by MattinNJ on Sep 14, 2011 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

What pissed me off more than anything else

Was when they only rushed 3 on 4th and 5. That was freaking ridiculous. At the very least rush 4 linemen and turn Greg Jones loose. That should have been a 10 yard sack.

by Raptor22 on Sep 14, 2011 2:08 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Am I understanding him right?

in order to get the pressure you want, you gotta play some man-to-man >>>

after just saying…
    “but opted to lean more toward zone coverage in the second half.”

…and you “opted” to do that because…things were going so well…???

by NY17NE14 on Sep 14, 2011 11:29 AM EDT reply actions  

Yeah

He recognized that man-to-man gets more pressure but he opted for another coverage. And people wonder why I bash Coughlin.

Team Ghost: Manningham, Sintim, Beckum, Barden, JPP, Anvil, Ross

by GhostDini on Sep 14, 2011 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

as an often time TC defender

i’ve got to agree with you this time. His statement there made absolutely zero logical sense to me.

by BleedBigBlue on Sep 14, 2011 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks for replying

I’ve been scratching my head since I read it, thinking…

He didn’t just say what I thought he said;   did he?

I admit, I’m no NFL caliber coach, so maybe they had some kind of plan like


“Well, if we keep their offense on the field, the chances of US commiting a turnover will be less”


“My God…    that’s pure genius Kevin!!!”

by NY17NE14 on Sep 14, 2011 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

I mean honestly

You guys get some long philiosophical answer and u dont wanna hear it

you get a short, sweet, duh, to the point answer and we still complain

i mean whats he supposed to say?

Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!

Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related

by Blue Gates on Sep 14, 2011 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

he didn't just SAY IT, they actually did it.

Honestly, I didn’t get to see as much of the 2nd half, but during the first half I saw Grossman fitting some balls into tight coverage. It sure seemed like the flood gates opened up in the 2nd after they “opted” to go with this coverage scheme and not put more pressure on him.

I like Tom and know he doesn’t even like having to do the conference thing, but don’t you think more pressure was a better way to go?

p.s. I’m more than willing to let this subject go and look forward to improvement on MNF

by NY17NE14 on Sep 14, 2011 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

He should have said

I need to let Perry coach the D and worry about why BJ is getting so few carries and why Eli isnt using his full complement of targets

"That's mostly fans who say that kind of stuff and they really don't understand the process. We have good players on the team. We're not looking to go out and make every sexy splash that can be made. We make solid football decisions. That's been happening for a long time," Reese said

by trueblue63 on Sep 14, 2011 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

You also can beat man to man just as easy

so calm down

Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!

Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related

by Blue Gates on Sep 14, 2011 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think they did it for conservation of energy

we just dont have that many live bodies to go at cb

Some people think football is a matter of life and death. I don't like that attitude. I can assure them it is much more serious than that.

by njsoldier1978 on Sep 14, 2011 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

I tihnk it had a lot to do with the personnel he had.

He didn’t really have the players to blitz like he would have liked to. Hopefully Tuck plays this week, and maybe Osi, and we can get after the QB every down like normal.

Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
SASH

"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning

SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!

by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 14, 2011 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Speakign of which,

has there been any word on Osi? Will he be ready this week, or is he gonna sit out till next week vs. the eggs?

Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
SASH

"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning

SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!

by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 14, 2011 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's on the stationary bike

He’s likely out this week.

Team Ghost: Manningham, Sintim, Beckum, Barden, JPP, Anvil, Ross

by GhostDini on Sep 14, 2011 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Damn it.

At least we should have Tuck back, that allows us to blitz a little more.

Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
SASH

"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning

SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!

by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 14, 2011 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think Tuck back allows us NOT to blitz as much actually.

Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!

Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related

by Blue Gates on Sep 14, 2011 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

but it does make the blitz that much more ferocious

Some people think football is a matter of life and death. I don't like that attitude. I can assure them it is much more serious than that.

by njsoldier1978 on Sep 14, 2011 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's what I meant

It allows the blitz to be more effective.

Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
SASH

"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning

SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!

by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 14, 2011 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree

Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!

Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related

by Blue Gates on Sep 14, 2011 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

He had the players to blitz

I think they were forced to stick to a gameplan with limited adjustments because of a new Mike backer…..Thats like a new QB, the amount of audibles and adjustments have to be cut way down especially in the first game.

Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!

Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related

by Blue Gates on Sep 14, 2011 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe

but Grant admitted that the rookies – Jones and Williams – weren’t the ones making mistakes.

Team Ghost: Manningham, Sintim, Beckum, Barden, JPP, Anvil, Ross

by GhostDini on Sep 14, 2011 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yea i dont think so either

But i know with Jones in at the Mike, our adjustments, audibles and things like that naturally become limited for his sake and ours. Washington took advantage of that in the second half and our shotty secondary play.

Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!

Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related

by Blue Gates on Sep 14, 2011 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's the fear that makes me nauseous

We play afraid these days

We used to bring the heat and say block us, cause our CBs can cover for 2 seconds

We used to say here’s BJ he’s going to break your teeth, now we try to out cute everyone.

We have to get back to using our guys the old way, the kick people in the face way

"That's mostly fans who say that kind of stuff and they really don't understand the process. We have good players on the team. We're not looking to go out and make every sexy splash that can be made. We make solid football decisions. That's been happening for a long time," Reese said

by trueblue63 on Sep 14, 2011 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

So Giants football.

Smash mouth run game, hard hitting aggressive defense.

Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
SASH

"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning

SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!

by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 14, 2011 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

I Remember

watching Jacobs lower his shoulder, run smack into a huge pile of defenders, picked up 4 yards and an Eagles safety fell out the other side of the pile.

that’s Giants football.

by BleedBigBlue on Sep 14, 2011 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Haha

Team Ghost: Manningham, Sintim, Beckum, Barden, JPP, Anvil, Ross

by GhostDini on Sep 14, 2011 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

ding ding ding

True….you just hit the nail on the head.

No Country for Old Men….

TeamJPP

by andiamo708 on Sep 14, 2011 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well said True

+10000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000

Why is Tom Quinn still here? I loves me some Coach Clawfin.

by costanza! on Sep 14, 2011 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

And if they lose

So be it

You have to be who you are.

"That's mostly fans who say that kind of stuff and they really don't understand the process. We have good players on the team. We're not looking to go out and make every sexy splash that can be made. We make solid football decisions. That's been happening for a long time," Reese said

by trueblue63 on Sep 14, 2011 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

You aint never lied.

Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!

Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related

by Blue Gates on Sep 14, 2011 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

man to man requires getting to the quarterback

i think with our hurt pass rushers, they wanted to play it safe. If you cant get to the quarter back in man to man your gonna give up some huge plays

by peterhad on Sep 14, 2011 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow.....

I didn’t realize that they were so beaten up. I REALLY like Jackson. He seemed like the personification of team player, and always seems to go out and play hard despite, let’s face it, being on the Rams.

This could be an interesting game. Anyone know how their O line is? Young QB, a few good hits could really rattle him. No Jackson is a very good thing for us, I think.

by Fishhead202 on Sep 14, 2011 11:39 AM EDT reply actions  

The Rams o-line looked horrible vs. the Eagles

They were pressuring with a four man rush, and when they blitzed, Bradford had half a second to get rid of the ball. This is why I’m saying we need Tuck and Osi back. We missed them both more than anyone realizes. Them being able to get a consistent pass rush only helps our secondary. Miami got no pressure on Brady on Monday, and he was able to sit back there and pick apart a decent defense. Say what you want about the o-line, but the d was getting zero rush. Same thing with Giants, they were only getting pressure when they blitzed 6-7 guys. When the Giants can get pressure withe a four or five man rush is when the defense excels. That starts with having Tuck and Osi.

Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
SASH

"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning

SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!

by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 14, 2011 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thank You

That’s exactly what I was hoping. A good pass rush can make up for a weak secondary.

by Fishhead202 on Sep 14, 2011 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hopefully...

we will play to our strengths this week and everyone will step up! No more effin around, time to get rolling! Run the ball, run the ball!

by oldschoolblue64 on Sep 14, 2011 12:20 PM EDT reply actions  

I didnt notice but

Is Kehl starting for them at LB? I saw Laurenitis and he looked pretty damn good

by NYG86-90-07 on Sep 14, 2011 12:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Didn't notice him.

Saw Laurenitis and Popinga a lot.

Now in section 133.

by Last year in Sec 127 on Sep 14, 2011 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Coach and QB Speak
  • We have to play better…
  • I need to protect the ball better…
  • There was some good out there…
  • We had opportunities, we need to take advantage of them…
  • Guys just have to step it up…
  • We had a good week of practice…
  • We had the right play but the execution was not there….
  • We have to be more balanced…

What am I missing?

When its 3rd and long, throw the ball past the marker.

by Fester McDougal on Sep 14, 2011 12:39 PM EDT reply actions  

Can I

retire now?

the posters here are so clever, that sometimes they don't understand a single word of what they're saying."

"saying you are right when you’re wrong only gives you the right to be wrong"

An optimist is a person that falls off the empire state building and after 50 floor says so far so good!

by murderhill on Sep 14, 2011 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

I mean do you expect specifics from the coach and QB??

really?? which coach or Qb really goes in depth, we pay attention to generic answers as if behind close doors those are the same answers, not true at all.

Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!

Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related

by Blue Gates on Sep 14, 2011 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

I expect the talk

to eventually turn into the walk. I am tired of slogans about getting better. Get better.

When its 3rd and long, throw the ball past the marker.

by Fester McDougal on Sep 14, 2011 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can dig that.

Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!

Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related

by Blue Gates on Sep 14, 2011 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

i hate eli and coughlin when they talk

neither of them should ever open their mouths ever. if your going to say anything without actually saying anything, why say anything at all

by The Blood of Eli on Sep 14, 2011 12:52 PM EDT reply actions  

Because they want to defend in the media

And are clueless.

This team has under performed for years, Eli has been very erratic to say the least.

They are lost, don’t know what to do about it so they say whatever comes to mind. Which is nothing.

All the Giants should play like Mark Bavaro.
Tom Quinn Must Go!
It is equally worthless when people are always optimistic or always pessimistic. Either way I take their opinion with a pound of salt because I know they only have one setting. I post my own thoughts, not what either side wants to read.

by UnknownJintsFan on Sep 14, 2011 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

On a bright note

James Butler has to be one of the worst safeties in the NFL defending the pass

by 56istherealLT on Sep 14, 2011 1:06 PM EDT reply actions  

LOL

Why is Tom Quinn still here? I loves me some Coach Clawfin.

by costanza! on Sep 14, 2011 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Let's not go near that man

"That's mostly fans who say that kind of stuff and they really don't understand the process. We have good players on the team. We're not looking to go out and make every sexy splash that can be made. We make solid football decisions. That's been happening for a long time," Reese said

by trueblue63 on Sep 14, 2011 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

So can I.

oh. NVM, wrong website.

by nwkiddnj on Sep 14, 2011 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not the lumberjack allstars?

damn, all this time… <= confused

Some people think football is a matter of life and death. I don't like that attitude. I can assure them it is much more serious than that.

by njsoldier1978 on Sep 14, 2011 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm a

lumberjack and I’m OK—-

the posters here are so clever, that sometimes they don't understand a single word of what they're saying."

"saying you are right when you’re wrong only gives you the right to be wrong"

An optimist is a person that falls off the empire state building and after 50 floor says so far so good!

by murderhill on Sep 14, 2011 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Coughlin thinks it's all execution

To him his game-planning is fine and his in-game adjustments are fine. It’s the players who need to start playing better football. Someone needs to tell him that it’s his job to get those players to execute.

Team Ghost: Manningham, Sintim, Beckum, Barden, JPP, Anvil, Ross

by GhostDini on Sep 14, 2011 1:28 PM EDT reply actions  

It's nonsense to start

It’s the coaches job to create plays and a game plan that reduces the need to execute

If it’s aout execution that means the coaching stinks

"That's mostly fans who say that kind of stuff and they really don't understand the process. We have good players on the team. We're not looking to go out and make every sexy splash that can be made. We make solid football decisions. That's been happening for a long time," Reese said

by trueblue63 on Sep 14, 2011 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

when they were in man coverage and blitzing

Rex Grossman looked lost. let’s please do some more of that this week

I'd like to thank the good Lord for making me a Yankee fan.

by NJsandman on Sep 14, 2011 1:34 PM EDT reply actions  

His O line was lost

Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!

Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related

by Blue Gates on Sep 14, 2011 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

i'll take either one

I'd like to thank the good Lord for making me a Yankee fan.

by NJsandman on Sep 14, 2011 2:14 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

For sure

Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!

Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related

by Blue Gates on Sep 14, 2011 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

The question is why go away from the pressure

That’s what I can’t understand. I mean pressure is working so let’s go away from it not so smart IMO.

Why is Tom Quinn still here? I loves me some Coach Clawfin.

by costanza! on Sep 14, 2011 1:44 PM EDT reply actions  

In order to blitz you’ve better have corners who can cover because if you do not … which righ now we do not … You’ll give up huge plays in the passing game. Tthe Giants corners are also a tad on the sllow side so you’re safetey better be able to make plays … And our safeties do no. That’s the bad news the good news is Justin Tuck will be back next week and those double teams that JPP saw all game won’t be happening and whe you get pressure with 4 men you can run a lot of the zone stuff Fewell loves

by TheBXRepresenta on Sep 14, 2011 9:11 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Chemistry & Trust

Manning is going to have to develop chemistry and trust with his receivers, other than Nicks. Especially if Nicks can’t go this week

by Cruz Control on Sep 14, 2011 1:51 PM EDT reply actions  

Execution

Lombardi knew how to get his players to execute, to the point where he’d say, this is the play we’re running, try and stop it

by Cruz Control on Sep 14, 2011 1:54 PM EDT reply actions  

Eye of the tiger

or at least don’t pout.

the posters here are so clever, that sometimes they don't understand a single word of what they're saying."

"saying you are right when you’re wrong only gives you the right to be wrong"

An optimist is a person that falls off the empire state building and after 50 floor says so far so good!

by murderhill on Sep 14, 2011 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just watched

2007 SB highlights (again). That team was very competent. Improbable, yes, but competent.
That includes very lucky Eli, SS12, Jacobs, Bradshaw and on and on. Lots of the same people and the team is now incompetent? How could they be so composed on the big stage and look awful as of Sunday?
We now have a better, more talented seconday.
A better D line (debatable).
Ah! not as good an O line.
A much seasoned QB who seems to be losing that petulent pout (along with his abilaty to throw a football).
Running game the same.
Ah! LB ers not so good. We could get one of those LBs back if we wanted (Mitchel).
Ah! Special teams still suck
Receiving Corps yet to be determined
What’d I leave out?
Oh yeah the coaches. They are now ready to be put out to pasture, fired or oblivious.
SB is a good watch. We all are still feeding off that team’s competence.

the posters here are so clever, that sometimes they don't understand a single word of what they're saying."

"saying you are right when you’re wrong only gives you the right to be wrong"

An optimist is a person that falls off the empire state building and after 50 floor says so far so good!

by murderhill on Sep 14, 2011 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

I dont know if we were so composed then either

I just know when it came time for a big play from either side, we got it, thats the difference.

Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!

Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related

by Blue Gates on Sep 14, 2011 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

SB42 - Between the 10 minute opening drive and Q4..

..we hung on by our fingernails.

Then Boss makes the long catch and run and it’s like “Holy Crap we can win the SuperBowl”.

And it still took a minor miracle to get it done.

Blue is the color of melancholy and honesty
Green is the color of inexperience, envy and nausea.

by roguetrader on Sep 14, 2011 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Go back and watch week 1 of that season.

Maybe I was in a different dimension, but the games looked about the same, as does the feel afterward.

by Raptor22 on Sep 14, 2011 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe the feeling afterward was the same

but if I’m remembering the game correctly, The offense (especially Eli) looked WAY better in that Dallas game than what I saw this past Sunday. It does give me hope for the defense, because that year it took a few weeks for the D to gel. Unfortunately, Fewell < Spags.

"I’m not trying to be like Peyton; I’m trying to do it the way I know how." -Eli Manning

by BleedBigBlue on Sep 14, 2011 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

think he is a

good head coach?

the posters here are so clever, that sometimes they don't understand a single word of what they're saying."

"saying you are right when you’re wrong only gives you the right to be wrong"

An optimist is a person that falls off the empire state building and after 50 floor says so far so good!

by murderhill on Sep 14, 2011 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't konw the Rams well enough

but I know he’d be a great DC for us.

Team Ghost: Manningham, Sintim, Beckum, Barden, JPP, Anvil, Ross

by GhostDini on Sep 14, 2011 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes

Although he’s got some talent, when it’s healthy. I didn’t think Bradford would be in Stafford, Ryan, Flacco’s league, but he surprised me last year.

Blue is the color of melancholy and honesty
Green is the color of inexperience, envy and nausea.

by roguetrader on Sep 14, 2011 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Flacco is in those guys leagues??

I dont see it……. and the others arent in a healthy Stafford’s league IMO

Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!

Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related

by Blue Gates on Sep 14, 2011 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'll never doubt a Mets fan on that

IIf anybody should know suck when they see it its a Mets fan.

Blue is the color of melancholy and honesty
Green is the color of inexperience, envy and nausea.

by roguetrader on Sep 14, 2011 4:00 PM EDT reply actions  

HEY

im a mets fan….

Nets Mets Giants ALL DAY

by netsareboss on Sep 14, 2011 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Arent you required to be a Jets fan as well then?

Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!

Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related

by Blue Gates on Sep 14, 2011 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

No

Self-praise is for losers. Be a winner. Stand for something. Always have class, and be humble.
-John Madden

by Willgfass on Sep 14, 2011 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

No

Nets Mets Giants ALL DAY

by netsareboss on Sep 14, 2011 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

yes

Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows

by Rorschach44 on Sep 14, 2011 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tuck's back right?

Bradford doesn’t do well if you can get pressure with the front four. Since the Rams passing game depends on the run and short passes you should be fine. The Rams receivers are horrible, the ball.

by nyeaglesfan624 on Sep 14, 2011 6:53 PM EDT reply actions  

Brandon Stokley

Per NY Times, Giants are signing Brandon Stokley

Mickey C

by Mickey C on Sep 14, 2011 7:16 PM EDT reply actions  

So now all of a sudden Tom Coughlin can’t coach …. and Eli is terrible ? Like seriously its the same ish …. I swear if you go back and read through every post its the same … after a loss its fire coughlin or what is eli doing …. after a win its oh we’re good again so let me stop talking shit about my team until they lose the next game …. Which isn’t as often as you think … You’re spoiled if you were Jet fans you probably woulda slit your wrists by now.

The Giants haven’t had a losing season in about 7 years but all I keep reading is how they’ve under achieved … Tom Coughlin can coach his ass off and Eli Manning is a great player … He’s the greatest QB in Franchise History yet your all too busy whining like a bunch of front runners to appreciate it.

by TheBXRepresenta on Sep 14, 2011 9:03 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

I like your style

"I’m not trying to be like Peyton; I’m trying to do it the way I know how." -Eli Manning

by BleedBigBlue on Sep 15, 2011 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

+ billion

Good to end on this note

AMEN FOR THE GMEN!

by WilliePonder on Sep 15, 2011 9:27 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

the Giants haven't made the playoffs in two years

and have collapsed in each of the last two.

Keep pretending that everything is all good here in Big Blue Land.

The rude awakening comes on Monday Night

by MrDollarBills on Sep 15, 2011 9:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

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